THE ED MYLETT SHOW - MIND over MATTER w/ Randy Jackson

Episode Date: April 28, 2020

The KEY to sustaining GREATNESS is to reinventing yourself in EVERY era. I’m excited to share this interview I did with one of the GREATS of the music industry.... this man is not only a world-class... bassist, singer, record producer, serial entrepreneur, and owner of Unify Health Labs but his hands have been in the mix of some of the most talented artists in the WORLD in including Jerry Garcia, Mariah Carey, Bruce Springsteen, and Madonna! I’m sure you know him from American Idol, one of the BIGGEST TV hits of all time, but he is also maxing out every single day of his life because of his DESIRE to embrace every moment (all while defying Father Time!). We are all mega-achievers, trying to reach new heights and goals, but we don’t talk about how to SUSTAIN them! Getting there is only the beginning! For the first time, Randy is sharing his secrets to how he has been able to maintain his success, improve his quality of life, and SUSTAIN his successes. We dive deep into HOW he continually reinvents himself and how he has used "NO" as a gift to accomplish even more! A driving factor for Randy, after his Faith, is his humility and his compassion. He gets candid about the fear, anxiety, and depression we all come across at times but how these emotions can be used to course CORRECT and come back into alignment with our higher calling and purpose. He reminded me of something essential, especially during these times of COVID-19, we look at the most SUCCESSFUL people in life today, and we FORGET that they came from the same place we did... we forget at one point they were just a kid with a DREAM, just like US! We cover a lot of topics in this interview including health, the advice Randy received at 20 years old that he’ll never forget, and how these times may be an OPPORTUNITY of a lifetime to build your BIGGEST dream yet. Remember this, SOMEONE else out there NEEDS exactly what has been put in your heart to create and this interview will help you unlock that dream and bring it to fruition.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the admiral show. Welcome back to Max out everybody. So excited to share this gentleman with you here today. We did not know each other prior today. Usually my guests are dear friends of mine. I get the feeling I hope this man becomes one of those. You'll recognize him immediately. He doesn't really need an introduction, but he's a world-class basis. He's a singer, record producer. One thing you might not know about him is he's a serial entrepreneur, a very successful entrepreneur as well. He's maxed out multiple areas of his life. Most of you saw him maxing out every single week on American Idol for a really long
Starting point is 00:00:45 time building the most popular television show really of all time. So we got a lot to talk about today, especially during these times. I feel like I brought you one of the perfect people for today. So I want to welcome Randy Jackson to the show everybody. Randy, welcome. Thanks, man. Thanks for having me, Ed. Good to meet you, man.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Yeah, it's, we got a lot of mutual things and friends in common. We do, we do. And one of the things that we both have in common, I think, to start is our pursuit of trying to do things great in our lives. And obviously, as I started to read your bio, obviously, there's a lot of different areas, but I'm curious before we get into all the transformations,
Starting point is 00:01:19 I know for some people that may not have seen you in a while, they're looking at the screen right now going, that's not Randy Jackson. That's like, Jack's, because the Andy's gone. Oh, look at that, look at that. You look great, by the way, and we'll get there in a minute, but this is being recorded, everybody, during sort of the pandemic, during the COVID crisis.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Yeah. I'm just curious. How are you doing? How are you dealing with it? Any advice you give people during you know, during this moment? You know, I'm just been meditating a lot, leaning into it, just trying to really relax and just really trying to, I feel like this has happened at a time the world needed a giant reset. So, what's important in your life? What do you really need in your life? Not what you want,
Starting point is 00:02:02 because what you want changes every day, every hour. What do you need? What do you really need in your life? Not what you want, because what you want changes every day, every hour. What do you need? What do we need, Ed? Let's get back to the basics of what we need. Then, let's figure out what we're going from there. Well, it's funny, you say that. I got interviewed on a show this morning. I said the exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I think there need to be a consciousness reset. I really believe this is happening for us. Yeah, man. Definitely. Everyone's going, now, well, my family's pretty important. So are my friendships, you know, basic things like freedom and other people really matter right now. Maybe a little bit more than they did two, three weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Don't you agree? Yeah, and all the things you were pushing for that weren't really important, but that you thought you wanted. You don't really want those anymore. So in the face of this, it's a great time to readjust, to go inward, to really kind of get a grip on like, what's my life, where am I going? Do I love what I'm doing?
Starting point is 00:02:53 Do I love my life? Who are these friends? Are these real friends? What's going on here? You know what I mean? That happened to you. And you achieved a lot of things. I didn't know I was going to ask you this.
Starting point is 00:03:02 But I mean, obviously, success you've had is incredible. Did you get to some of things. I didn't know I was going to ask you this, but I mean, obviously success you've had is incredible. Did you get to some of those places and go, this isn't what I thought it was or did that happen? To always, I think, listen, what I think we often forget in this is this pandemic, reminding us of this, we're all human. We're all put our pants on the same way. We all have some of the same challenges in life, no matter what your social, economic,
Starting point is 00:03:24 status, whatever that is, still have some of the same challenges in life, no matter what your social economic status or whatever that is, still have some of the same challenges. So yes, it happens to me, it happens to all of us. It's interesting. You're talking about what you need and not what you want. And evidently, there became a point for you where you needed to transform parts of your life.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I needed to get healthy, bro. I got diagnosed with type two diabetes about 18 years ago. I needed to make a serious life change. Yeah, and how do you do that? Everyone listen to this. They want, they're in this moment of their life, and even before this moment, people that watch the show, they're about transformation.
Starting point is 00:04:03 They want to transform something financially, physically, relationally, and they're like, you try, look at you, you transformed your body. What were some of the keys in doing that, some of the room metrics of it? I had to really just come to grips with where I was. And listen, all the way leading up to here, my doctor was saying, need to die next besides you need to drop weight. You got way too much over weight now. Let's talk to 358 at the end. So I knew something was going to happen. But it happened at a time that I least expected it. Wondupin the emergency room with a blood sugar over 550. I just I didn't know what was going on. The doctor says I got good and bad
Starting point is 00:04:47 news. So give me the bad first. You got type 2 diabetes and some cure. What's the good news? With a lot of help, you can't manage it. And you dropped. You dropped 114 pounds. Is that the right number? Yeah, man. Yeah. I had to really, I tried every diet known demand. I tried everything. You know, there's not one size fits all that's what's going to work for you. But during this time in this research and this big reset for my health and my life, I had to figure it out. So I wound up getting gastric bypassed about 17 years ago. And yes, you start dropping the weight pretty quickly,
Starting point is 00:05:28 but now, how do I keep it off? Right. So I have to start that whole thing because I know people that have it, that gain the weight back, gain more of the weight back, more than half of the weight that they lost again. I mean, I'm just all sorts of variations, but how do I keep it off?
Starting point is 00:05:44 So I have to have a complete, complete change of my diet and the way I thought about food. So I read you're saying about that. So I don't want people to learn how to make a lasting change, right? And that's what you've done. It's been 17, 18 years, you've kept this stuff off. I've been believing in reasons. People ask me all the time, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:02 how do I sustain a lasting change? I'm in pretty good shape, not a great shape right now, but I'm in pretty good shape. And I feel like one of the reasons I had a hard issue when I was in my early 30s. And I this doctor tell me, my daughter was little, this doctor said he could have just given me the prescription, right? So they take this crest or an eat cleaner and you move on. He said, me goes, you want to, you have a daughter, right? I said, yes, sir, He said, do you want to be there on a wedding day and be the man to walk her down the aisle? I said, whoa, I said, what?
Starting point is 00:06:30 He said, I'm asking you, if you want to walk your own daughter down the aisle on her wedding day, you know what it's like, dad, I'm like, yeah, I do. And he goes, listen to me, boy, if you don't change the way you're eating, you're training, you're nutrition. Some other man's walking her down the aisle someday. Then you like a ton of bricks, didn't it? Yeah, and I gotta tell you, there's been a million mornings while I'm walking up, didn't want to train.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I'm like, Bella's wedding. Bella's wedding. I got this reason that sustained me over time that were bigger than my desire to lay around or bigger than food, right? Well, you know, it's like, what's that wake-up call? What's gonna be that turning point for you? Who's gonna tell you?
Starting point is 00:07:04 Who's gonna get to you that you're gonna go go, okay, this time to cut this crap out, I got to get it together now. Yeah. You, any tips during COVID, people sitting around the house more, everyone I know is kind of like, hey, it's harder, it feels harder anyway to keep my routine, to keep my fitness, to keep my disciplines. I'm walking by the food more. That bone is really hard.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Because everything you said you were gonna do if you had the time, now that you've got the time, you don't wanna do it. So, you know, it's a mind-of-a-matter situation, but isn't that true and synonymous in life anyway? It's gotta be mind-of-a-matter. Amen, 100%. One of the things you've done though that I like, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm right? If you can monetize an area of price. But secondly is where there's a need.
Starting point is 00:08:05 You've got unified health labs now. What I love about this is you're an example of what you're representing. Number one, it's not just something you're talking about. And two, go ahead, sorry. And I'm going to say and two, it's something that there's a there's a massive need for it in the world. You know, all this obesity in the world, but not just obesity. People that are carrying extra 10 or 15 pounds, they don't need to be carrying on their body or lack of nutrition, right? So go ahead, I interrupted you. You go ahead.
Starting point is 00:08:34 No, I was just going to say, you know, part of the thing for me was taking a guesswork out of it. I was overwhelmed with all the vitamins and supplements on the market. I didn't know what to take and I was a pro at this by now. So I said, okay, I want to take the guesswork. I don't want to make it easier for me and easier for everyone. I'm sure a lot of people have the same issue. You go to their house, the kitchen, the bedroom, they got bathroom, 50 bottles of bios of stuff on their countertop. 50 bottles of bile of stuff on their gun or job. What do I take? What's the right dosage? How often do I take it?
Starting point is 00:09:09 What's the right, so I wanted to come up with Unified Health Labs. We're taking a guesswork out of it for you. Take these supplements, take these things, take this powder drink that's very good. Like a strawberry lemonade. It's gonna help you with your gut health. It's gonna help to decrease your appetite.. It's gonna help to the appreciate appetite.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It's just, this is what you take. Simple. What's that happened to you after this transformation? Like what else has it done for you? You dropped the weight, I told you when we started, you look five years younger, you said tell them 20 when we're on the show. So, okay, 21 years younger.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Come on man. No, but you do, I mean,. It struck me when you got a cab, I've seen you in interviews recently, but even to see you now, like we're together, I wish we were doing this, like I normally do at the house, but I mean, what else is it done? Because I'm a big believer, you transform one area of your life,
Starting point is 00:09:56 there's reciprocal effects in the other areas. You can't just move one area. You show discipline and you change yourself confidence in your identity, one area. There's discipline and you change yourself confidence in your identity one area. There's a trickle over effect too. It's all relatable in that. And everything in life is relative. So guess what?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Change your mind, your body, your spirit, your outlook, your thinking, you get more positive, you get way more energy, you wanna do more things, you're thinking more clearly, it helps every part of your life. It's like what the doctors used to say. A well-balanced diet would diet an exercise, proper amount of sleep, taking care of your body. Wow, it does wonders. We were something about you that's always struck me. It's, you've been successful a long time and a lot of others, even I was reading like you back there and that's like 30%. It's, you've been successful a long time.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And a lot of others, he when I was reading like you back on, that's like 30% of it, right? For a long time. And then you know we're talking off camera about some mutual friends of ours. What do the people who have one long term have that, like, especially in the music industry, that flashes in the pan?
Starting point is 00:11:01 I know a lot of flashes in the pan is entrepreneurs. They had one hit, they had four, five good years. You see them 10 years later, and they're kind of back where they were before. Or like you said earlier, they've changed their body, they lost the weight, and you see them five years later, like my gosh, they've gained it back. But you and I know other people were talking about Gen Lopez
Starting point is 00:11:19 before the show. This woman's been relevant for 25 years. You've been sick. If not more. If not more, right? What do they have? Because you've known executives that have been there long term. You've known people in all different businesses.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Is there something? Is it their work ethic? Is it a separator? What do you think it is? To me, it's all of it. It's like the people that get it, the people that don't get it. How hard are you willing to work? How bad do you want it?
Starting point is 00:11:46 And are you really understanding what you have to? And do you understand how to get that? So, Jen gets the whole thing. And we're all very blessed, extremely blessed, what you gotta put in the work. And you gotta learn what to do. And you also have to learn how to sustain and remember you see the stones the stones have been around 50 60 years it's reinventing yourself every time. The greats know how to reinvent themselves in each era. That is the I got a
Starting point is 00:12:19 chance so funny that you say that this is so weird. I was thinking of Jagger when you said that. When I brought up Jen, I just met him. I met him in Pasadena about six months ago. And what struck me was I was backstage before the show. And I was struck by how meticulous they all still were with their preparation even. The attention to detail is my numbing. When you look at Prince Bowie, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, I mean, LeBron, I mean, it's Steph Curt, when you look at any of these athletes, Tom Brady, any of these guys, their attention to detail, these successful ones is so unbelievable. That seems to me to be a separator and the other piece of the brand, I don't know if you've noticed this too, I bet you've seen this in music. You have this huge will to win when you're broke. It's like the heavyweight champion in the world.
Starting point is 00:13:08 They have this huge hunger. And then for most people, they get a little bit of success and that will to win is almost bot. Like there's like a price tag on it, I say. Like you just see that if you weren't paying attention, you might not know, but they just start showing up a little bit later. They don't quite prep like they once did. They're passionate. And it seems like someone like yourself or even assignment, I'm still watching that guy cranking, right?
Starting point is 00:13:34 Or like a Jordan Winnie Play or a Kobe Restistow or a Jen. They're willing to win almost increases the more successful they become. Exactly because guess what? You've achieved this. Now what's next? You want to continue to grow and build and learn. I say to people, I don't know everything.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I want to learn every day. I want to explore every day. I'm ambitious every day. Okay, I did that. Now what else can I do? Because you want to become the greater and the best human you can in the lifetime. Yeah. So what's what's pushing you? Is that what's pushing you? If the money's pushing you, that's gonna run a foul.
Starting point is 00:14:15 So that can't push you that just genuine spirit of really trying to achieve and that ambition is to drive you. But I get a taste, I want more. More, that's what's bizarre to me that doesn't happen to most people. And I think part of it is, I'll give you a compliment. People have met over the years that knew both of us. If always commented to me about what you just said,
Starting point is 00:14:38 a genuinely kind and humble person you were relative to the sick, a success you had. And in your world, that stands out even more than any world. Like, you're humility, right? And I think that humility causes you to not think everything's guaranteed the rest of your life. I think that has an element of it. 1,000% grown.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I mean, I always say that the only thing God really wants is your compassion and your utmost humility. Because listen, as I say, we're all the same people giving some of the same tools. Listen, some of us more than others, but we all have something that's greater than the next person to get us through this life. But you have to be able to identify that and magnify it over and over and over. You said, God, know what you got is faith part of your formula. I'm just curious you said God or 100 million percent. Yes
Starting point is 00:15:29 That's great to hear I wouldn't be without it, bro. Couldn't be without it. I love hearing that brother By the way, I'm loving this okay one thing. I love about someone who's been interviewed a lot You can get through a whole bunch of questions and get a whole bunch of info from them in a short window of time I'd like to know from you. Hey, you can just keep it real. You know, you can just be honest and tell the truth and not worry about, oh, what did I say then? What did I say there? Ah, no, no, don't worry about that. Hmm. I wonder from now, I bet a lot of people will be curious about this and I wonder,
Starting point is 00:15:58 what was it like? What is it like? Just take us on a ride for a second. You end up being a guy who's very well known in your world, right? And then you end up on this television show. That had to be a life change, brother. Like, you go from being, you're very well known and respected in your industry to now about every living room in the country. Like, I told people you're coming on the show. Now, one person didn't know who you were and I'm introducing famous people but usually go, I'm not who every single person you went from your industry knowing you to everybody knowing you. What is that ride like? What does that feel like? Are you scared when that's happening? I'm going to lose it. It's a little funny, you know, but listen, I'm so blessed and so thankful and so grateful.
Starting point is 00:16:47 You know, look, I mean, I was in my industry, I was doing my thing, I was an A&R guy, I was a session musicians. I toured with the journey boys whom I loved to death, so I went to greatest bands ever in the history of music. You know, I'd work with Madonna and with Ensenque, with Dylan, with Springsteen, with like, I mean, with Madonna, with Insane, with Dylan, with Springsteen, with like, I mean, just dream, just dream people, right? And, you know, you often still say to yourself, what's next? And I mean, I went out on a limb and took a thing for the show. And I thought to myself, I was sitting in my office doing A&R. It's got to be something next. It's got to be another way to really market and develop and break new talent. You know, and expose the world of new talent. So
Starting point is 00:17:37 I took a flyer on this show, a gut intuitive instinct and said, listen, I think this thing's going to be something. God forbid it really was. So I guess I kind of bet the right way. So to me, it was the next chapter in the evolution. So, you know, that's why I'm one of my bet the right way. So to me, it was the next chapter in the evolution So you know, that's why I'm one of my favorite things in life is what's next? Okay, I think we got this down now What are we doing from here Ed? Where we're going next dad? So you know, it's that kind of a thing with us. I'm so happy that I was able to get everybody's homes Because that's the real people because I used to say doing a N.R. was like playing God between the creators and the people because with the ones that signed the axe the bell of the axe put the records out and said okay yes this is good to go
Starting point is 00:18:15 and the people responded yay or nay. So who are we to say or we to say? I you and you may like something. I don't even know you're going to like because I don't really know what you ultimately like. I can think generally. Yeah, Ed may like this and may like like that, but I don't really know. So I don't was a chance to give the people a voice. Wow. It always tell me.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Well, you tell me my observation of watching you all, especially when it was you, Paula and Simon, and I, just, that's the part where my mind goes. I think you have the elements that every great Inapprise has, great Chicago Bulls, the, a great company, a great entrepreneur, and I want you to talk about this for a minute, which I saw chemistry, energy. I think energy wins, like energy overrides things. There was a particular energy. Clearly the acts were a major part of the program.
Starting point is 00:19:12 First of its kind, sort of enterprise. But there was something special with the three anchors of the show, Antsiecrest. There was an energy there that had a chemistry that made it attractive. And I think sports teams have that. I think great entrepreneurs build that. Was that just like through good fortune?
Starting point is 00:19:31 Or was that something about you all three were different? What was that? You know, honest to God, it was that we were all different and it was just great unbelievable chemistry and fortune. We didn't know you couldn't predict that that's what made the thing so great. It was such a great ride because who knew you couldn't have predicted that yes, Kyle and I were in our guys. Yes, all I was a star. Yes, Ryan was a radio star, but who knew that you could put these sister and people together? I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:00 Kyle and I was sort of in the same business because he was an A&R guy in the UK and I was an A&R guy here in the States. So, what we did for a living, we weren't particularly artists, what we did for a living was fine, sign and develop. Tell him. So, I was a talent show, so that's what we did. So, it's no surprise to me, or it shouldn't be a surprise others, that a lot of that early talent was hugely successful, because's what we did and we said going in if we don't pick and make the right choices and help America pick we're gonna have egg on our face because this is what we do for a living this is our livelihood if not if we can't do this no one can do it so it wasn't like we were star trying to get more exposure on a TV show which you see a little bit more up today.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And I think a lot of them love it. But this was our job. We weren't stars. We were in our guys. We were company people. That's really low in the home. It just kind of the chemistry worked. In your career, have you ever struggled
Starting point is 00:21:01 with anxiety, depression, fear, like wondering whether you're good enough? Is that any of that? Anyways, bro, I think I think you go through all of it. You know, that's one of the things about driving like the vitamins and what I created, we unify health labs. You know, with Dr. Malina was that everything that happened in your body is because of what you think you feel or reaction to food, what you do you feel or reaction to food what you do How much you sleep what you go? It's all about trying to help you correct What has been wrong?
Starting point is 00:21:32 So yes, we all have all those feelings all those emotions Where do they go get their more information on unify health labs go to unify health labs calm Or you know you can log on on Instagram or Facebook to Unify Health Labs. Everywhere you want it, it's there. This stuff is so good if I say so myself. No, no, you should say so. Obviously, I love companies where I can look at the spokesman or one of the representatives
Starting point is 00:21:58 who go, well, it looks like it's working for them. Obviously, work for you. What's successful? I appreciate that. It's a fact. What's successful? I appreciate that. That's a fact. It's like just it's obvious. Everyone watching this is thinking, it's if you're listening to it, at least give yourself a gift to go into my social media or YouTube
Starting point is 00:22:13 and take a look at what this man looks like. Now it's remarkable. What I like the guys out there is you looking at this. Just remember, Ed and I will want super models. Do not forget it. And tell the people man. Tell people what's going down, man. I personally, when they look at me do not forget it. And tell the people man, tell the people what's going down man. I personally think when they look at me,
Starting point is 00:22:28 they see it. I don't know, I mean, I probably need to say. Come on, it's obvious. There's a lot of guys that look like me out there on the runways. Um, I'm curious. There's a lot of entrepreneurs that listen to this. Any advice to entrepreneurs right now in the market now,
Starting point is 00:22:44 you know, obviously the world's changing a little bit right now, but you've known tons of successful entrepreneurs, you're a successful entrepreneur. I'm curious that any council you would give somebody right now who's in the business space on their own or got a little small company. Yeah, keep thinking about how you can make this different. Keep thinking about what does the public need, what do people need to help them in their lives? Not what they want, What do people need to help them in their lives? Not what they want, what do they need?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Not something just like something else, but what can you create that you just go, wow, who would have thought of that? And you came up with something unique when you think about what Amazon's done. When you think about what Microsoft said, when you think about what Apple said, when you think about all these great companies,
Starting point is 00:23:26 you just go, what, what, what much? When you think about all these great companies, what did they create for people? They created a different way. The person that came up with bottled water, why was it, why were we that guy? Well, right now. What a genius idea.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, something that simple. The other thing I find, there's two things about that I would just want to add to what Randy is saying everybody. There's two things a lot of these entrepreneurs in Amazon, the bottler water, here were things that existed that they brought a twist to that made it a better idea. There's always a very simple. Very simple. There was always water, there was always retail, but now Amazon flipped it and the other thing everyone will give you hope, the most people don't realize. most of these big brands We're started in down economic cycles or they started running into one so like Microsoft
Starting point is 00:24:11 25 Microsoft in Apple were 75 76 and crap economy's running into a worse one, right? That flicks was 90 right before in 9 11 Zuckerberg was Facebook 04 headlong into 08 in that crash And so a lot of it was they were broke through cells or broke economics cycle. So if you think right now, I can't start a business, I can't move it forward. This is when it's easier for you. Because big companies, they're like glaciers.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It's hard for them to do what Randy described. Hard to innovate, hard to evolve. That's what's interesting about Unified Health Labs. There's a lot of big players in that space. They can't move and adjust and create and innovate like the new players can in a space. Don't you think? No, 100%.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You're so correct. And also all of these ideas are very simple and usable. When you know I was talking to someone the other day about TV shares, they say, well, what do you think is a winning formula? Keep it simple, stupid. Okay. Stupid it simple. Yeah, always say complexity is the enemy of execution and you know I say this about the music business in the TV game in any product game
Starting point is 00:25:15 You're right in these time and these sort of downturn times. That's the way you pounds That's the time to go in because people's minds are open to new innovative ideas. Big time. And you said something brilliant. And by the way, a lot of entrepreneurs, but I'm like, she'll even said this, it's got to be what they need, not what they want. Because the other thing too is as the pocketbooks get restricted, they're going to move to what they need more of them just what they want when everyone's flush with money. You're right. Yes, yes. What do I need? What's going to keep me healthy? What's going to get me to the place
Starting point is 00:25:49 that I ultimately want to be? Really, really good stuff. All right, a couple more things. Overall, by the way, I know there's a lot of people who have a child that wants to get into the music business, or they're an artisan entertainer, but I want to make it a little bit more broad.
Starting point is 00:26:02 So I have so many in front of me who's achieved multiple dreams in his life, and happen to be a part of, I mean, all these people you've listed, plus the people on idle, you've been involved in launching people's dreams. If you think about, I don't know if you've ever thought about yourself this way, but you might have been connected on earth right now. You might be one of 10 people who've been the most connected to launching other people's dreams or being involved with them. I mean, it's a long list of people that you've at least been some part of watching a dream get launched and realized, right? I think that would be blessed.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Extremely blessed. Extremely blessed. Very blessed. And very skilled, though. I think the idea of what I love about it is, it's really what we're all looking for, except it's just music. We all have a dream, and we all want to see that dream happen, and Ida was watching someone chase their dream,
Starting point is 00:26:55 and for a few, and for the winner, it'd become a reality. So there's millions of people listening this that are going, I have a dream, you know, I'd like to make come true, but I'm just me. I don't come from a successful family. I don't have access to a bunch of capital. I don't know a lot of people, but I want to make my dream happen. I deserve to win just like Randy Jackson's one in his life. I got a dream. What's your advice to me? What's your words? Well, you know what's really funny that you say that is that when you look around at all of these shows, when you look at Idol with us, you look at Idol now with Luke Ryan and Katie and Lidle, you look at the voice, you look at, massing or any of these shows, you've seen people and I was one of those kids in Baton Rouge, Louisiana dying to win and to get mine and
Starting point is 00:27:38 become successful. So I was that kid in search of making that dream come true. Jennifer Lopez was that girl from the Boogey down Bronx trying to make that dream come through. You know what I'm saying? So, these people all had those dreams, all the athletes, all the bisos, all of the warm buffets. These were those people, we were those people. So, you're looking at the success and the great thing that these shows do is show you that if we made it, it must be possible for you to make it.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Amen. And we'll forget that. Yes. And you know what people need to realize is in every family, someone changes that family tree, someone breaks out. I think when people look at you or look at Jen or the people that you've been referencing, they think maybe they've always been that way. But the fact of the matter is they don't, right? No. We all started as grubby kids trying to figure
Starting point is 00:28:36 that out from somewhere. You know, you know, you know, we're a wing in a prayer. You know, I'm saying, but you got gotta learn, sponge, listen, hopefully get yourself around great people that'll be honest with you, that'll tell you that God's honest truth, that a 100% keep it real with you, because I say to people all the time, the knows is what helped me.
Starting point is 00:28:57 All of those yassons, I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, but what I need to work on, what I need to get better at, and be honest with them, have thick skin, develop thick skin, okay, that hurt. But you know what, I'm gonna listen, maybe they're right. Now that's really good. The nose or what made the difference for you, not the yeses? Of course, for all of us, how do you get better?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Somebody's gotta tell you, yeah, but you know, I say to people all the time, I must have played a million bars in the South before I ever made four dollars. I mean, you'd be playing a holiday in and nobody's even looking at the band. And you go like, God, man, we're playing for four hours, people ain't nowhere here.
Starting point is 00:29:33 So how do we get them to notice us? What do we gotta do, stand on our head, work clowns, suit, what do we gotta do? Maybe they don't like our music. People send all these demos in. Nobody's responding. Well, maybe they don't like our music. People send all these demos in. Nobody's responding. Well, maybe they don't like it. They're not liking it.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Corvex is a drawing board. Figure out how do you make them like it. That was good for me to picture someone like you that I admire so much. I've been at that holiday and watching that guy play when no one's looking at him. And to think. And by the way, there's a million people out there with a dream right now going. In my business, I'm at the damn holiday and no one's looking at him. And to think, and by the way, there's a million people out there with a dream right now
Starting point is 00:30:05 going in my business. I'm at the damn holiday and no one's looking at me right now. It gives hope brother. Like honestly, it for even for me listening to you, to know that you were in circumstances like that and you've turned your life into this just, you know, really a masterpiece of a life. And I know you want to still do better and improve and grow, but that's a, that's a miraculous move from there to here. and I know you want to still do better in a proven bro, but that's a rock. That's a miraculous move
Starting point is 00:30:25 from there to here. But you're at the holiday in in Pekipsi. This is not the holiday in in like Phoenix. This is Pekipsi, yo. This is some Bismarck. This is some small out of the way town, dude. You know, disrespect to these cities, but I'm just saying this is a tiny holiday ending of my shenanotent. Oh my god. What am I going wrong? And so you know, it's really going back to the drawing board, not being afraid to work on it to really figure out, I used to tell people all the time, somebody gave me this advice when I was young, a great producer named Tom Dowd, God rest his soul. One of my men towards in life,
Starting point is 00:31:08 he worked with Amar Nerd again with Orita, with Ray Charles with, you know, Rod Stewart with everyone, the Bee Gees. He'd say to me, look at the Billboard magazine, I pick it up and go like, well, what do you like in the top 10? He goes on top 20. And you know, like I'm a little bit of a jazz fusion,
Starting point is 00:31:24 God was a little bit of a music snob probably going up because I was trying to be Stanley Clark or Jocco or Charles Mingus or somebody, you know. And I look at and I go, well, I kind of like some of the things. I don't really like it even really. He says, okay, your first thumb, rule of thumb is a producer. You got to figure out how these people got into top 20 Why people like them and how you can get them to like you?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Because they ain't liking you to what you are now You can say you're the biggest music snob and you went to all the great music schools and you're not playing a billion notes Second, but they listen to that they want to know out second, but they listen to that. They want to know, can you impress me the way Johnny Cash does? Can you impress me the way James Brown does with the screen? Can you impress me the way Hendrick's does to be those impressed me help me somebody? Can you impress me simple like that? Wow. Okay. So I had to kind of relearn my crap from there then. Wow. Yeah, course correction. Guys, I hope you're listening to this through the prism of wherever you are.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Is that exactly right? Why do they like Bezos better than you? Why do they like the local tech company better than yours? Why do they like the local hair salon better than yours? You go to a wall and get better. You craft. Yeah. Kind of that.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You want to reach the people where they live and give them something they can really use. Stan, very good. This is exceeding my expectations. I knew this was going to be good. I'm going to leave you with a fun question. And I don't even know if you can answer it because you probably offend some people. But I'm curious because you know everybody. And again, I won't tell anybody you said this. So if you could go to a concert, there's three acts, pastor, present, you personally could get to enjoy that night.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Three, it's your private concert, it's your 70th birthday, you can invite anyone who's gone to come back or anyone who's living currently. Who would those three be, band or individual artists? God, three is so hard. How many you want? I'll give you five Okay, that King call Sinatra
Starting point is 00:33:36 Beetle Zeppelin Slime family stone Amazing night That's awesome. What a while. No, it's gonna be right Flying the family stone It's been amazing night That's awesome what a while night. That's gonna be right It's not to back to back. I want to see that Sonata then Zeppelin. Oh My gosh, that's so good. That's so good. Ranny. I've enjoyed today so much brother Thank you so much for today. Where's your dad? Thank you so much, man
Starting point is 00:34:04 You guys stay tuned into Adman and it's bringing the truth man. He's bringing it for real in 2020 yo. Thank you brother and hey guys everybody make sure you follow Randy on Instagram and all of you listening or watching this remember I run the max out two minute drill every day on Instagram when I make a post 7 30 Pacific 10 30 Eastern make a comment or comment on someone's comment if you missed that time, comment anytime, every day on my post at the end of the week, you pick winners, you fly on my jet, you come to my events, you meet my guests, you get my book, I max out gear. It's all good. I'd love to interact with you on Instagram. So please connect with me on the
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