THE ED MYLETT SHOW - My Most Powerful Episode Ever - Ed Mylett in the Hot Seat, Interviewed by Jamie Kern Lima

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

This is THE most emotional conversation of my lifetime...We have flipped the script this week. I’ve asked one of my truly dearest friends, Jamie Kern Lima, to GUEST HOST the show and interview ME about my highly anticipated new book, THE POWER OF ONE MORE, coming out June 1. (You can pre-order now).As you might guess, Jamie knows me really well, so not only am I fielding some questions that only Jamie knows to ask, I’m also going to REVEAL things I’ve never told anyone before, publicly or privately.Nothing was off the table!Jamie and I are going to give you a big sneak peek on some of the things you’ll read in my new book, THE POWER OF ONE MORE, coming out of June 1.I WROTE THIS BOOK TO HONOR MY DAD. He was a KIND AND LOVING MAN who battled alcohol addiction early in my life. Throughout the years, my dad became the person who had the most profound influence on my life. After he beat his addiction, for 35 years, HE TAUGHT ME LESSONS, many of which are in the book… lessons that I still use to this day.I wasn’t expecting her to ask me about what I struggled with the most growing up. I had to think about it and like a lot of people I know, I had to fight through so many kinds of CONSTANT FEAR.Fear I wouldn’t fit in. Fear that I wasn’t good enough. Fear that I’d be found out as an imposter. Fear my dad would get hurt while he was drinking, or God forbid, he would accidentally hurt someone else.  I’m also going to tell you how I’ve leveraged a life full of ONE MORES to become successful.I’m especially grateful to Jamie for asking me about HOW MY DAD SPENT HIS LAST DAYS and what I learned after he passed that had a huge impact on me.  I hope there are no rules about shedding a few tears on your own show because I definitely broke them...Let’s just say when I get to the end of my life, I’m praying that I turn out to be half the man my father was.This week’s guest host unpacked a lot in the 90 minutes we spent together. THANK YOU, JAMIE… my friend who got me to say things I never thought I would.

This is the Ed Millet Show. Everybody, welcome back to the show. This week plot twist, we're turning the tables on me, and I'm being interviewed by my dear friend, Jamie Kernleema, about my new book, The Power of One More. And I say some things in this interview that I've never said before publicly or privately in my life. It was a deeply emotional, very revealing interview for me. And I'm sure that it will be for you as well. So enjoy.

God bless you. Ed Mylett. Jamie. It is such an honored interview. You on your show, this has never been done before. You and the hot seat. we're flipping the script. Are you ready? I'm ready, I feel like I'm in great hands with my dear friend here.

Let's do this. All right, well I just want to, from the beginning, reconfirm, nothing's off, like nothing's off limits, right? You asked me that so many times. No questions are off the table. You can ask me anything you want, I'm an open book today. You're an open book. Yeah, with you I am.

Oh, thank you. I want to also just share you haven't seen the questions before. You have no idea what's coming. I have no clue what you're going to ask me, but I'm certainly excited about it, I think. You ready? I'm ready. Let's go.

All right, well, first off, I just want to say I have had the gift of reading, the first draft of the manuscript, the power of one more. Congratulations. Thank you. It is such a good book. And I feel like, you know, when I was reading it, I laughed, I cried, I bawled my eyes out,

I sat there and read things, and I thought to myself, they do not teach you this in school. Like, there's so much in there that they just don't teach you in school, whether you're a business leader or leading a team or trying to learn how to be persuasive or just trying to live your best life.

Thank you. So just write off the bat. I want to hear it in your words. And what is the power of one more? Why did you write this book? Who's it for? Well, the first person I sent it to was you. I've anybody in the world.

So that should say something. The fact that you like it means a lot to me. So I sent it to was you. I've anybody in the world, so that should say something. The fact that you like it means a lot to me. So I wrote it after my dad died. So my dad passed away and I realized couple things. One, I learned a lot of lessons from my dad, most of which were what I wanted to do in my life. And I wanted to write them to honor my dad, because most of them I took from him.

The second part of it was it occurred to me that, you know, when you watch someone you love pass away, especially a parent, you know, it sort of dawns on you that you ultimately are next. And, you know, that it made me really think about the end of my life. And, you know, what do I want my life to be like? What do I want to accomplish?

Where do I want to have gone? What difference do I want to make? What emotions do I want to have? And then also, like, what do I want to accomplish? Where do I want to have gone? What difference do I want to make? What emotions do I want to have? And then also, what do I know about life so far? Because the older I get, the more I realize, I don't know as much as I used to think I know. But there are certain things I've definitely discovered in my life that have helped me become more successful

and happier, and I wanted to document them, before I forgot them. And so I decided to go about writing a real manuscript, a thorough manuscript. I call it, you know, the ultimate guide to being either successful or happy. And those two things are sort of interchangeable, but there's emotional writing it. And I learned some things about myself and my dad as I wrote it. Some things dawned on me as I was writing it. Nope, that was from dad too. That was from dad as well. And so I'm proud of it. I'm proud of it.

I'm proud of the book. It was obviously things you always wish you could do better differently, but as I've told you, but I do believe this book will help people become happier and more successful for sure. You know, I was gonna ask you, hearing that, you know, writing a book is such a journey, right? And that you, a lot of people listening to us right now

or watching have started the first page of their book or maybe they haven't yet or they want to and you know on your journey, I was going to ask you that right off the bat is what have you learned about about yourself in this process because this book is deep. I mean it's like great business and leadership lessons but the personal stuff and the layers are really deep. I think that that's a great question and you and I discussed this a little bit last night, just as we were talking about this. But I think it's dawning on me more and more

the impact that my dad's drinking had on me in my life, even to this day, as I was writing the book, just when you grow up with any dysfunction in your film. By the way, I grew up in a very loving family, a tremendous family. I'm very proud of my family. But that doesn't mean it didn't come without, you know, some dysfunction. And a lot of people come from dysfunction. It could be alcohol or drug abuse. It could be divorce. It could be bankruptcy. It could be that didn't tell you they loved you

enough. One huge form of child neglect that I realize in writing the book is a parent who doesn't pursue their dreams. You're neglecting your children when you do that. You're neglecting your children when you don't pursue your potential in your dreams. You're installing in them that it's okay not to become the best version of you. And a lot of things in life are caught, not taught. And what I realized when I was writing the book is I caught a lot of things from my dad that he doesn't necessarily intentionally teach me. But I do think as I read it,

it dawned on me more and more that these things that happen when we're children, good, battered and different do impact us as we get older. Even when the world thinks we've got it all together, even when the world thinks, you know, man, guys got everything or she's got everything. People think that sometimes of you, or myself, and I realize that no, there's impact and effect

and ramifications from things that happen when we're young and when we're children that we carry with us even into adulthood and it's certainly uncovered some of those things about myself in the book, writing it. What you just said is huge. I have never heard anyone say that before and I just, would you mind saying that again? Because usually, and my own experience

and so many other people were like, oh, do I, you know, am I too ambitious? And do I put everything on hold for my kids? A lot of times people think as parents, you know, are we going after things too much, right? And we dial it back. And you're saying, you're saying not going after your dreams? I think, absolutely, that's a fact.

I think it's the most insidious form of neglect of a child. Who is the, it's an innocent. Coming in hot. It's coming in hot, Ed, my life. And I feel like strongly, I really, really that's strongly now too, because there's something that happens to our spirit

when we know we're not becoming who we're supposed to be. And that's that thing that's happening to our spirit, that in and of itself robs us of our ability to even love people to the extent that we can, to express ourselves, to give them the energy that we're capable of giving. And so yeah, I think that a lot of people think that, well, I know I came from a great and loving family. That's wonderful. That's terrific. But was there anything in there where, you know, you look now at their lives? And even as my dad got older, I'm so proud of my dad and the different things he accomplished.

But there were even times later in life because you know, it's those spots there. I wish I'd have taken a bigger risk. I wish I'd have gone for it. I wish I'd have just tried a couple different things. And he would impart those lessons on to me. Now, he was such a humble person that, as you know, we'll talk about later, when he passed away, I found out that just massive difference my dad was making every day in people's lives, that I had no idea that he had done, but I think anybody listening to this or watching it ought to really think

through, you love your family. It's really easy to say, hey sweetheart, you can be anything you want to be. But there's a point in most children's lives where they wonder, well why aren't you? And at some point, all of us true, like I figured out who my dad is in writing this book, right? I figured, you know, at some point in my adulthood, I figured out who he was, who my mother was, how am I my mother's just, my mother's the lost person, she says, this is a beautiful person who literally held our family together when it wasn't, you know, almost cable of being held together, but I have to tell you, all children eventually figure out

who their parents are in the world. You're gonna love your parents, but there's an age where you figure out, who are they? What difference have they made? What have they achieved? What have they given? You know, what's their role in the world?

And so all of your children are gonna eventually figure that out out anyway. So you might as well go for your dreams now. And there's another notion, I'll just say, lastly, this notion that, well, if I'm really crushing it at work, I'm going to be neglecting my family. Or if I'm really, if I'm at the gym, that's going to take from work. The truth is, I talk about this in the book about, you know, extremity expands capacity. And the truth is that nothing's

further, that's absolutely not true. For me, when I'm crushing it at work, I'm a better dad. When I'm a great father, I bring more love and compassion, and joy, and energy to work. When I'm fit and training and eating great, that magnifies positively all the other areas. There's this fallacy that if you have a lot of one, you must have less of the other. And that's just not true.

Mm, you know, I'm preparing for today. I am not taking a second of everyone listening and they're precious time for granted. And I have, you don't know this, but I've reached out to a number of your close friends asking them what would you ask Ed? I am that reached out and a lot of people on Instagram DMing me questions for you.

And you know, this was gonna come later, but I just wanna throw this out there because it's something that you just shared. So a lot of your community sending me questions, right? So at Eclipse Holsters asked, and I want to share this because it piggybacks in something you just shared, how do you handle your family that doesn't necessarily want you to succeed?

Because they're more comfortable if you stay stuck and poor like them. How do you walk in your success and enjoy it? And so I think that's interesting because you're saying your kids will figure out who you are and really, really go for it. And a lot of people are struggling because maybe their parents, their loved ones, their friends and family actually kind of prefer if they just stay stuck. Yeah, mind it, mind it.

And I could tell you on the other side of it, they loved me. They were, most of the time, they truly love you. They're very concerned about you. And let's be honest, if you're an entrepreneur, there's a lot of struggle. And most parents don't wanna see their children hurt. They don't wanna see you go through difficult times.

Then there's the other part of it with like, oh, you're, you know, you're all after the money thing or, you know, what's important is family. And what they fail to understand because of their own limiting beliefs. Here's what's going to happen in your life. People with limiting beliefs are going to be projecting onto their belief systems over and over and over and again. And as long as you are aware that that's what's happening, that it's not probably, look, there's probably some folks in your family that are antagonistic against you, but the vast majority love you.

They love you. They love you. They're projecting onto their limiting belief systems. Here's what I can tell you that I know for a fact that when you win, and you know I talk a lot about this in the book, the second chapters about the matrix, and I talk about Neo and Neo and the matrix is the one, and you know that I'm well known for saying that you can become the one in your family that changes the well known for saying that you know that you can become the one in your family that changes the happiness and success level because in every family that

you see that's wealthy or just happy. It's some point in their lineage way way back, they weren't. And then the one shows up, the neo, the Jamie in that family shows up. And here's what I can tell you having been a person who's sort of has been the one, is that you actually change the way they think eventually. And that my family now embraces bigger thinking. My family now embraces chasing dreams and maximizing your potential. It took a while, took a couple decades,

but that type of talk will not happen in my family again. And so the fact that that's happening two you and your family makes it even more requisite upon you to go do something great so that that legacy of limiting thinking and small thinking and playing life small and settling for, listen, it's not just good enough to be a good person in life. You're supposed to contribute.

You're supposed to make a difference. You were born to make a difference in your life. And so yeah, a ticket into the game is being a good human. A ticket into the game is being kind and caring, which is pretty rare nowadays. So that's a ticket into the stadium. But then you got to get on the field and play. And they play the game is what life's all about. We were put here to play the game. And I can tell you that on the other side of it, here's the great news. Your family won't think that anymore, that way anymore, when you're done. My family doesn't think like that anymore.

My nephews, my nieces, my sisters, my mom, my family, they don't think like that anymore. They get it. And so I not only change the financial dynamic of my family, I changed our emotions, I changed the way we think. And by the way, I would say that had my dad not made the decisions he made, I would have never been in a position, the sacrifices he made, allowed me to be the one. And so the other thing last day I'd say is a lot of you have beautiful souls and your family of sacrifice so much for you, it's incumbent upon you not to rise up

and to become that one that finishes the game, finishes the job. Some of you come from families with legacies of real tragedy in your family, or maybe you're born into a dynamic where your entire race has been victimized, most of the generations of your existence. And you have ancestors that have sacrificed for you. I don't have that history, but many of you do. Man, you got to do something great and honor them and take it to the next level and honor those sacrifices they made.

And so it'll change the way they think eventually. Hmm. What you just shared is going to change someone's life today. Good. I hope so. It's huge. And you talk about the one in your family and you know, two things to let everyone in and behind the scenes a little bit is, you know, right right before we started filming we were sitting down just now and realize for the first time we both have bagged groceries at Safeway. The cards in the parking lot. Yeah, you're better. Yeah, you're saying you put the bread on the bottom.

Don't put the eggs in the bread and the cakes on the bottom of the camp. Yeah, but we were both, you know, the one in our family, right? And I think that concept that you talk about is so powerful, because there's so many people out there that have that narrative of like, oh, where I come from, maybe limits where I can go. So don't know, you can be the one in your family. Well, you're a much better example. The most people that know your story, you're a tremendous example of that being the case.

And so. Well, thank you. And I knew you're going to try to make it about me today. I'm like, uh-uh, we're going right back to you, Ed. You're in the hot seat. This is about you. This is about you. Thank you, though.

Yeah. And you know that's true about you. One other thing I want to share, because I want to dive in deep to the making of Ed my let in a second. But just to share one thing, as your friend, I'm going to the making of Ed Mylett in a second. But just to share one thing, as your friend, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this because what I learned

from writing a book is no one knows these things. And I'm just going to share it with everyone in your community because so many people, millions of people have been listening to you, served by you, getting your free content every day on your show and all your channels. And for everyone listening who loves you and maybe is like, how can I actually support Ed? I'm just gonna say this,

because now you wouldn't say this. When you as an author, when people order your book and not just order it, but pre-order it, right? Before it comes out or the first week it's out, second week, that is so important. And nobody knows this, right? And let me just share with everyone listening because it's super important that you do it. If you're going to grab a book, right, you're going to grab the power of one more, grab

it now, do a pre-order or do it the first week it's out. Thank you. It's a big deal for authors. And the reason why is retailers, they need to see that demand so that they can keep it in stock. If they don't see that beforehand, then the book may be out of stock. I know you don't care about making any of the lists, all the best seller lists, but a lot of those are determined on your first week of sales. So I'm just going to take a moment as your friend. I know you're going

to be embarrassed if I say this, but every single person watching right now, we got some good stuff coming. So let me just say that, but pause the interview if you can, if you have not grabbed this book. First of all, this book is life-changing, but also pre-order it. If you're gonna get it, if you're able to get it, do it now, a lot of people think, oh, get it next month or the month after, because they don't realize it actually helps the author so much

when you grab it early or write when it launches. And what I love to do, by the way, to support my friends too too is like in your Amazon address book just click a few people and then send them one to you. I just had to do that. I had to do that. It's the friend thing. It's the friend thing to do. But I want to dive in. I'm excited and fired up now. I want to dive in to and you are so generous with how vulnerable you are and how transparent you are with everyone in your community out of a pure heart of service. I think so many people connect millions of people who connect to you see different parts of their story through

yours and maybe are inspired to navigate their own journey through how you navigate yours in different twists and turns and so I want to just dive in for a minute and talk about a few things that I think some of them I know you've never to navigate yours in different twists and turns. And so I wanna just dive in for a minute and talk about a few things that I think, some of whom I know you've never shared before. So this is gonna be fun, but I'm gonna start with sharing some of your words. So you said this quote,

you have it within you. I'm no different than you. I wasn't born with some magic gene that you don't have. I just wanted to win so bad that I didn't allow anyone or anything to steal my dreams. Procrastination is a thief and fear is a liar. Whew, so first question on that is growing up. What were your greatest fears?

That's so many. It's really weird as you're asking that. I was starting to actually get emotional. Because I was picturing me as a little guy. And it's just dawn oning on me. How scared I always was. You know? All the time. So, I was afraid my dad was going to leave.

I was afraid he was going to get hurt or killed or hurt us sometimes. Um, and those, those, the, the idea of fear was around me all the time. So just going to school afraid I'd embarrass myself. No one would know this, because I had this pretty good mask I could kind of put on where, I don't know why it makes me so, I mean, bizarre right now. It just, if I be real, I'm thinking right now, and I'm telling you what I'm thinking,

I'm actually thinking I still am. I'm actually thinking I still am. So, and I don't know that, yeah, I was afraid of everything. So I was afraid of being a failure. I was afraid of letting people down. I was afraid my family wasn't going to exist. I was afraid of, afraid people would figure out who I was and that I wasn't that special, figure out how average I was. When I even had success, like when I played baseball, I'd have this fear that I was, it was a flu success, like when I played baseball, I'd have this fear that it was a fluke.

I still have a lot of that to this day, where I'm like, it's a fluke, they're gonna figure me out eventually. They're gonna figure out I'm not that big of a deal. So, I think that, now I will say that I think those of you that are like, wow, relating to that a little bit, I think not all emotions are negative or positive. Some fear is healthy. Some fear causes us to focus. Some fear causes us to make our best effort, right? We were given fear

back in the caveman days so that T-rex didn't need us, right? So there's some fear, but to be riddled with it all the time. And I think I'm still a little bit of that guy. I think I still have a lot of it. So I did lots of fear. I had a lot of chaos. I realized as I got older, I, and by the way, I talk about in the book that you have an emotional home that you have these three or four five emotions, you get on a really regular basis. And it's just the reason I get emotional talking about it right now and I've never said what I just said out loud ever, not to my wife, not to you, not to anybody, not to myself, is that even though I've worked really hard on taking an inventory of what emotions I want, I want peace, I want joy, I want ecstasy, I want happiness, and I've really got a lot of those,

like I really have intentionally given myself the gift of those emotions, the one that I've not riddled myself, ridded myself of regularly as fear. I'm still afraid. I'm afraid the book's not going to be successful. I'm afraid. My podcast isn't going to do well. I'm afraid my speech isn't going to go well. And so the truth is, I still have a lot of that. And that's a good thing. It's 51 years old to say, hey, there's still room for me to improve. There's still things I got to work on. And I don't want anybody that follows my stuff all the time

or me to think, oh, he's got every single thing figured out. The truth is, as I'm talking to you, I'm realizing even a little bit more, and not really as I was going to say this at all today. But that's still a thing I got to really address. It's a fear. Mm. Yeah.

Do you have a fear right now that if you lose your fear, you'll lose your edge? Yes. You're so brilliant. Yes. We have these things that we do in life that we think are why we're successful. Now I'm consciously, I know that too. I know that I used to think my intensity, almost my temper when I was young in business, thought, hey, you take away my temper because I'm winning with my temper when I was young in business, thought, hey, you take away my temper,

because I'm winning with my temper, right? So you take that away, I'm not gonna win. The truth is I was winning in spite of my temper. I was winning in spite of my lack of emotional control. But this fear dude's been with me since I can remember. This fear is my friend. This fear is like my closest companion, right? And so to let go of that guy is,

makes me fearful, is to do it. And I think sometimes what you think when you have that thing is you think, I'm just talking from my perspective, I can manage it. I'll manage it. And maybe I do manage it sometimes, okay. But I shouldn't be as afraid as I am.

I don't need to be afraid, you know? And I still have a huge amount of it. So yeah, I do have this thing like if I let that go, I wonder what my mechanism to achieve is. Like what's the driver now? If I'm not afraid of anything, then I might as go start laying around and doing something, doing nothing, you know?

So I do have an element of that. And I actually have tools for this in the book that I should give myself the gift of music. So it's a great question. Yeah, you do. And I'm wondering, just hearing you talk about this, there's a famous quote by the rapper 50 Cent that says, either pray or worry, but don't do both.

I'm wondering too, in your journey of fear, being an emotional home for you to use your reference, like, is this part of your spiritual journey to learn that it's not all on you? Yes, and when I'm good, that's what I've told you this too. When I'm really feeling like I'm in my calling or doing something I'm I'm at my best is when I am in that state. I also think it's probably why I and I do pray so often I wonder if sometimes I'm praying to rid that monster that's like sitting there all the time

It's why I am such a praying person and yes certainly like consciously I know that it's not me anyway. Consciously, I know that I'm being protected. But I'll share something really personal. I feel like I'm talking to you. I forget that it's my show. But it just dawned on me as you were saying that, I pray for protection and comfort every day. So my prayers evolve about different things I'm working on,

but one that never leaves me is that, that Lord let your will be done and allow me to surrender to your will and protect me. And my dad used to, before games, when I would play, my dad would never, we would never pray that I'd get three hits in a game. My dad would always say, just pray that the God protects you, protects everybody else, and that you get to play to the best of your ability. And if that's enough great, and if it's not great, and that prayer would always really comfort me

before events, and I still do that, before we do this, or before I speak, or I have a big meeting, or anything, I always just pray that same exact, I don't know why it makes me so emotional, but I just pray that exact same prayer, that you're will be done and I just do the best that you can have me do.

And if that's enough great and if it's not, that's okay. So. So beautiful, it gives a peace. I wanted to ask you about something that I think has affected you, I know it's affected you, but so many people listening. Have this in their life, and maybe they shove it in the back of their mind, but it's still there,

and that is this idea of labels. And what I mean is, like so many of us have had, maybe it's when we were kids, someone called us a name, or we're in a situation and someone says, oh, but you're not smart enough, or you don't have what it takes or you're the wrong fit for this or you don't come from the right family or or this that the other thing and a lot of times we then find ourselves as an adult and that label as like stuck and it's taken root and now it's sort of coming out in our lives

and we haven't even thought about it in years, but it's still there that identity. When you were, I think it was eight, eight years old, you were called Eddie Spaghetti. Eddie Spaghetti. Can you share how that happened and how you did or didn't let that label take root? Yeah, I, by talking about this in the book a lot too, is that and how to overcome it, which I have. That part of me, I've leveraged into something pretty strong,, I talk about this in the book a lot too, is that and how to overcome it, which I have. That part of me, I've leveraged into something pretty strong, but I talk about in the book that a lot of the beliefs we have about ourselves

were installed in us, our identities, these thoughts and concepts we believe to be most true about us, our worth. They were installed in us when we were defenseless as kids. So it's like be a good boy, be quiet, be a good girl, don't do that, don't make too much noise, don't, and you start to just start to develop this identity when you're young, and then when you get out into the world, because you believe it, you confirm it, and then you'd rather more and more references for it, and before you know it, you're 20 or 30 or 35 years old, and it's who you are. And you've proven it because of this, your

identity is the most powerful force in the world. You're going to be consistent with it. And most of what you believe about yourself, you weren't in control of believing. There was put there when you were a child, same with me. So you have this combination of this kid who's at home, things aren't real stable there most of the time. Sometimes I feel like I over cook that too because when it was good, it was very loving. And the other thing is I had this loving mother 100% of the time, right?

100% of the time. And great grandparents and lots of great stuff, but there was this thing, right? So you have that anxiety going in chaos, going to school, I'm a little guy, I'm shy, I'm very, very shy. You know this about me to this day, I'm still very introverted,

which surprises most people because of the speaking and stuff in the show, but I'm super introverted. And I just started to get picked on. And this Eddie Spaghetti, your meatballs right in the class would sing it to me and they'd see me get upset. And it started to develop into this pattern of, you're not good enough all the time. And then I remember, you know, a few years later, a baseball coach, really, I was become a pretty good player. But we had a great player on our team who went on to play like Major League Baseball for many, many years. He's still a really good friend of mine.

And I had had a couple of bad gains and I was down. And our coach pulled me into his office. He was sort of a mean dude. He's a good dude, but he was a tough dude. He pulled me into his office. He goes, hey, Eddie Spaghetti. This is now a teenager. And he goes, did you ever think that maybe you're just not as good as him? Like you go and owe for three, like you can go over three, he can't.

So why don't you just accept the fact you're just not that good. This was my coach, right? And I remember just walking out of there like, oh, and then I shared with you another story that when I became a speaker, someone that I looked up to was like, you know, you're really not that good.

You know, like I can't even listen to you for one of about 15 minutes. And then I used to think, am I like, is there something on me that's like, you can just punch me? Like, is there something about me? Like, people think they can just tell me these things about me.

What is it about me? Because other people aren't. What I found out is other people are hearing similar things. And the truth is, I just started to go, I actually asked myself a question that I say in the book. I don't really believe that many good things about myself. What would I need to believe about me? That would serve me. What would I actually need to believe about me? That would cause me to change the way I show up in the world. What would I need to believe? And all of a sudden I started to really think about that. How would that guy walk? How would that guy talk? I'm doing an impersonation of this insecure guy. I'm doing an impersonation of a shy person.

I'm doing an impersonation of someone who doesn't have confidence. It's an impersonation. It's not who I really am. Well maybe I can begin to impersonate the person I want to be. And I actually started to impersonate him a little bit, not fake it, but like, you know what, he'd walk with the shoulders back. His voice would be a little bit deeper than the one I'd walk around with.

He'd think certain things about himself. Moreover, he would treat other people a particular way. He would treat other people in a kind and generous and strong way, almost in an overabundance of kindness and generosity to people and belief and love for people. And a lot of that happened when I worked at the orphanage. I was like, now that's the guy I like.

That's the guy that I am. I'm the giving guy. I'm the kind guy. And you know what, I found out when I did that, I took it away from me as we said earlier, and it was about other people, that I found a lot more peace. So I just started to become that person

and slowly but surely I think I am that person. That is really powerful. There's, I'm sure so many people, I'm sure they'll send messages about this, who, you know, see you online, watch your content and maybe think that everything's perfect. Right. And think that you're just born with all of this confidence and with, you know, everyone loving you and millions of people following you even through grade school, right?

I mean, we just, we tend to think those things about people that we don't yet know deeply. And then we think when those things happen to us, like someone tells us we're just not good enough, we kind of hide it because we're embarrassed by it or we think it doesn't happen to other people. And I feel like you sharing that is so powerful. Thank you. I think I have a lot of people from high school actually that follow me now, right? When you, when you're, and I think if you were to ask a lot of them because they've told me this, I just wasn't, I think they would just say to you, like it just, I wouldn't expect it to be an Eddie.

You know, not like he was a complete, I was just there, if that makes any sense, like no, I would not, there was no like most likely to succeed in any of my, you know, yearbooks or anything like that. But I don't think by the time I graduated wasn't like he's a complete dumb dumb, but it was just like he's just Eddie my let, you know, yearbooks or anything like that. But I don't think by the time I graduated, it wasn't like he's a complete dumb dumb. But it was just like, he's just atty my let, you know,

he's just atty. Like, he would never suspect he would be the person that, you know, might reach a lot of human beings in his life. You know, you just would never have predicted that. And that ought to give everybody hope. If you're not one of those people that everyone's like, no, for sure it's her. I was definitely not that person, you go, oh, just mark it down. He's gonna do for sure it's her. Yeah, I was definitely not that person you go, oh, just

mark it down. He's going to do something great with his life. No, no one was saying that about me. No one. No teacher, no coach. Maybe a couple teachers when I was a little, little guy, but most people would not have said that anything significant was ever going to happen. So good. They didn't know you were the one. That's right. That's that's powerful because a lot of people are wondering, am I the one? Can I be the one? No one's't know you were the one. That's right. You didn't know that's that's powerful because a lot of people are

wondering, am I the one can I be the one? No one's telling me I'm the one. And I think the fact that you doubt I think the fact that you doubt or wonder whether you're the one is indicative of the fact that you probably are. I do. I do. I just believe that. That's so good. And you know this for in by the way, the reason it's good is because you know that to be true I know that's true But I never thought about it that way. I know that's true And I'm just thinking right now. I have goosebumps thinking about how many people are listening to this and right now

They know that they're wondering if they're the one. Yeah, and that makes you probably the one. Yes That's right. And you know this because it happened in your life. Yes. That is huge All right, this is good. I want to talk about, you know, story. You're, can you share with everyone this story? I feel like someone needs to hear this today about your first grade teacher. Yeah, Mrs. Smith. Yes.

So, yeah, I'll even elaborate on it a little bit. So I had no confidence at all. And I was getting picked on. This is what I think happened. Mrs. Smith was just a super really kind lady and we had moved to the town that we were in then and so I was also a new kid. On top of being small, on top of being Eddie Spaghetti,

on top of being insecure, on top of leaving many mornings where my dad maybe didn't come home the night before or there was this turmoil the night before. I was leaving that house, this little dude. I wish I could go back and hug him, you know, which my mom did a lot of, by the way. And so she knew that I just had no self-esteem. And I believe she orchestrated this entire thing, but we were doing testing like for grades and stuff for the next grades. And she purposely had, I believe she purposely did this. For me, she had someone come in the back of the room and say, Mrs. Smith, we need your smartest

student to come take a test to represent the class. And I could see the person in the back, I heard them. And I watched Mrs. Smith go, that's Eddie my lead. I would pick Eddie, he's the smart boy. that's Eddie my let. I would pick Eddie, he's the smart boy. And she picks me and I remember going, oh my gosh, she thinks I'm the smart boy. And I just looked at her and she smiled at me and I remember just lighting up and then the person goes, okay, um, then Eddie my let, you need to come with us. And I stood up and it was the first time ever in my life that I was like, I'm special. This is special. And I walked up and went to the back

and I took the test and I guess I did well. But when I came back in, I didn't say this on the last time I told this, when I came back in, at the end of the day, class was over and Mrs. Smith said, Eddie, can you come up here for me? And I came up and She hugged me And she goes you're so special and so smart you're the smartest boy. She just like hugs on me for a minute and on me for a minute. And it really changed my life a lot. It changed my life because I was the first time.

I was like, well, maybe I, maybe they're wrong. Maybe I'm, maybe I am smart. Maybe I am special. And this beautiful soul knew exactly what she was doing. She orchestrated all that. She knew there was this child. I think she had this sense. Something was going on in my home.

Because kids don't come like that to school. That shy, that timid, unless something's wrong at the house. And I'm telling you the truth that I have thought about that, like, hundreds, maybe thousands of times in my life. That event in my life. What a beautiful, beautiful soul she was. So that's Mrs. Smith. It's one of those people, you know, in your life, when you close your eyes and you go,

there's this handful of humans that make you feel special, make you feel loved and cared for and believed in. And she's on that highlight reel of like maybe three or four human beings in my entire 51 years. And the reason that that's important is because I've tried really hard in my life to be that person for other people that they go, he loves me, he cares about me. He, most maybe even as important, he believes in me. And then you show people how to live a little better. That's exactly what she did.

She was a super, super special person. And little did she know that little first grade dude, would you know, be on a show with you today? Yeah. You know, last night when we were talking on the phone about this idea about how many people don't feel seen, and I'm just imagining like the power of her seeing you. First time anyone saw me, I was telling you last night that a lot of my work in my life has been, I don't know why it makes me so emotional, a lot of my work in my life has been, I don't know why it makes me so emotional, but a lot of my work in my life has been about helping people that perform pretty well perform their best.

And the more and more I've been doing what I do, the more it's occurring to me that my role is a little different. And that is that there's millions and millions and millions of people, maybe more than ever in the world that were like the first grader me, but they're 30 years old. They're 35 years old, they're 40 years old, they're 22 years old, and they don't believe they're important, they don't believe they're valuable, they don't know what their role in the world is, they walk in a room and no one knows them, no one acknowledges them, no one sees them, and more and more and more are cultures making that prevalent and then worse sometimes we're mean to one another or hurtful to one another and I really feel like the remaining part of my life is to help people know that they

are seen that they are important that they do matter that they do have something to give. My sisters here watching this, my baby sister who's runs all my businesses, but my middle sister is hugely successful as well. She's not on Instagram, she's not wealthy, she's born with diabetes, she's basically blind. She can't with diabetes. She's basically blind.

She can't drive anymore. But she's changing the world every day. And what she does is she's a school teacher at a Christian school. She doesn't make any money, any real money. But every day she's using the gifts God gave her her two or three gifts, which are her kindness, her ability to teach her gentle nature. She's also really tiny and short, right? So she's the same height as the students,

like she was made for this job. And she helps little children feel seen and important. And guess what, she's seen and important. And I want people to know that you do matter, you're not invisible. You count. You were born to do something great with your life in big ways, with people think or big, and with people think or small ways. But I see you.

I know you see them. And I just want people to feel like, you know, our community. And what I'm going to do with the rest of my life is to let you know that you matter, that you're important, that you're beautiful, that you're special, and that you were made. God made you, and his image and likeness. He literally made you in his image and likeness

to do something beautiful with your life. And you may not have found it yet, but we're gonna find it together, all of us together. We're gonna find it for you. We're gonna find it. We're gonna take advantage of your great blessings and gifts that God gave you, and he did give them to you. And we need to, you need to figure out what they are

and we'll help you do that. And I hope the book helps with that actually a lot too. The book is so powerful about that. And you know, I think another powerful thing about your story and you getting to this place where you're able to articulate like your contribution to the world and with such clarity and granularity about how you see people and the impact you wanna make.

But on your journey, right? Because there's people that probably heard what you just said. Like, okay, I believe it, but right now I can barely pay the rent. Or right now, I don't feel seen when I walk in the room. And what I wanna ask you that I think is so beautiful and relatable about your journey is you have had, you have been in a situation in your life

where you were driving a car where the panels were velcroed on. You've had your car repossessed, you've had your home, I believe, foreclosed on. You had a shower and a public shower. Can you share about that time in your life? We've worked, we're closed on. You had a shower in a public shower. Yeah. Can you share about that time in your life? And in that time, did you still have the sense, the sense that you had a calling,

that you were gonna make it, even if you didn't see away at the time? Cause I think there's people listening right now that feel like they're in that spot. And they think, okay, I meant to do something great with my life, but like, look at my situation. Yeah. But you've been there.

I've been there. So yeah, I've had of all that stuff happen. The hard part for me was that, like I said earlier, I had these fears, maybe a lot of people can relate to this. I wasn't really sure that I could do something great with my life. And then when I started to, I was like, maybe I can. And then when I'd have this setback,

I'm like, I knew it. It was a fluke. And the worst though was when the water got turned off. When the water got turned off, and we would have to go down to that outdoor shower, we were newly married and take showers every morning there. And I'd hold the towel up. And Chris Downwood brush her teeth and shower outside.

And then she would hold it up for me. And then I'd totally amasculated. And the shame would walk up every morning to that apartment. And I'm trying to sell the dream and I'm living a nightmare, right? But I have to tell you that my faith during those times, I did actually have a little bit of a sense that you know what? I'm going to do something great and I got really, really, really, really, really close to not believing that. But my dad had this thing where when he got sober and it's just stuck with me, thank God, my

dad, when he got sober, I said, dad, are you going to stay sober the rest of your life? And this is where the power of one more comes in. My dad says, I don't know, I'm not, I can tell you this, I'm going to stay sober for one more day. And this is where the power of one more comes in. My dad says, I don't know. I can tell you this. I'm going to stay sober for one more day. And so when I went through that, my dad called me. I was really broke. My dad goes, you thinking about quitting? And I go, yeah, I'm close. He goes, just don't quit for one more day. He's so wise. And I didn't. And that not quitting for one more day and holding on would go to the next day and to the next day.

But there were these glimpses in my life where it's like, you know what, I may not be the smartest or the best talker. I definitely don't have the highest IQ. I'm not the tallest dude or the strongest dude or the best looking dude or any of that. But I'm not gonna get out worked. I'm gonna out work you.

I'm gonna do one more rep in the gym. I'm gonna do one outworked. I'm gonna outwork you. I'm gonna do one more rep in the gym. I'm gonna do one more phone call. I'm gonna do one more email. I'm gonna do one more text. And I did have this overriding opinion, which I opened the book up with that, you know what, I am one meeting away from changing my life.

I'm one decision away. I'm one relationship away. I'm one new thought. I'm one new client. I'm one away. I never, I never client, one away. I never thought it was impossible, and I also really believed, here's the thing that I had advantage of.

I believed in this one more stuff so strongly that I also didn't think it needed to be 25 years away, either. I thought it was like, even for you, in your career, you struggled and struggled and struggled and struggled. And then, you know, the QVC moment happens, right? And so there was this one moment, one decision, one meeting, one show. And it wasn't all the one, because there's all the things you led up to that. But it was a catalyst that put you to a new level.

Yeah. It catapult you to a new level. And so for me, I always was looking for that one. What's the meaning? What's the thought? What's the emotion? What's the seminar I should go one. What's the meaning? What's the thought? What's the emotion? What's the seminar I should go to? What's the breakthrough?

And I stacked up these one mores, and I did have this sense like, I am going to be the person who is pursuing these one mores much more aggressively than most other people will. Because I'm not the smartest. And so, because I'm not, I have to outwork people. And I can control that. And I think anybody who knows me will tell you back in those days, or even now, they'd say that,

dude doesn't get cheated when it comes to work. I won't get cheated. So that humility of knowing my limitations, some of you that are like, I know I'm not this or that or the other, awesome. That's great. Let's leverage that into being a one more thinker, being a one more doer.

Let's leverage our humility. That humility you thinker, being a one more doer. Let's leverage our humility. That humility you have, which is all it really is, you're way more talented, way more gifted, way more favored than you know you are. But let's leverage the fact that you don't believe all that stuff about you. You don't have to believe all these great things about you. What we have to do is do the right things for right now. And as we do the right things, all this evidence is going to start to appear for you, one by one by one by one.

And by the way, I'm not unique to that. Jamie's story is identical and just a different way in a different form. And if you took apart most people who are successful, there are these one meetings, one relationship, one decision away from new levels all the time. And I did have a belief I would find those. Mm, yeah. When I read the open of your book, I instantly went to,

you know, as everyone I think will do, you apply it right away to your own life. Yeah. And you start thinking about, where could I have done one more? Where did I do one more? And it made all the difference. And the first thing I thought about was, you know,

for me, it was hundreds and hundreds of knows. But I learned to sort of change my relationship with rejection and just keep going for that one more. And then I eventually got that one yes, and then eventually got the one show and I would email email email, you know, trying to get into a retailer who told me I would never write and it's that one more email and you don't know which one it's going to be. But when you go for that one more, and change your relationship, I'm gonna ask you this.

You change your relationship with the one more or with the rejection. Do you think to some extent that people, I write about this a little bit in the book, but I'm more and more believing this? Do you feel like maybe you have a different relationship with pain than most people? Meaning, I feel like to some extent eventually,

because I got a lot of pain in my life. I think my relationship with it changed, that the presence of it didn't mean necessarily I was a failure, or the presence of pain or adversity used to mean to me, see, that's proof, I'm not. But now, at some point, the presence of pain, my relationship was like, I'm going to get something from my pain. I'm going to get pain anyway. And I talk about this a lot lately, but all pain is temporary.

It's when we believe it's permanent, nothing's permanent. My father's body, other than my father's soul, my father's body even wasn't permanent. My body's not permanent. So my father's pain in going through chemo or radiation or the surgeries, wasn't permanent. And so the pain you're in, whatever it is, is not permanent. Don't make permanent decisions based on temporary pain

and temporary conditions. And at some point, my relationship with pain changed just a little bit to where the presence of it, Napoleon Hill says, that on the other side of pain, if you can survive the temporary, you get introduced to your other self. And that's so profound to think,

this presence of pain in my life, if I can survive the temporary on the other side of it, I meet another me. And usually another version of your life is on the other side of it. So now when pain comes into our lives, it's not that we want it, not that we embrace it, but we almost dance with it differently now. Because we know on the other side of this, there's another us. And you know this to be true.

You've met many different versions of yourself on the other side of temporary setbacks and pain. So a vibe. And and hope that helps everyone. It does. Well, and I don't fear it anymore. Neither. I want to get really, really about pain though. You, I don't want to say inflict pain on yourself. Cause pain.

You're very hard on yourself. And I think that may surprise a lot of people because you're also so inspiring and at lifting. And you just, oh my goodness, can you just pour into someone and have them just believing to the point where they're flying. You know what I mean? Flying high with belief. Thank you.

And this other part of you is so hard on yourself. Yeah. Can you share that? This is what I've finally discovered as I've gotten older, is that when you allow yourself to feel loved and valued, you'll actually achieve far more significant things. So this actual feeling of if I get this achievement, I get this significance, then I'll get love, is actually a limiting level of significance and achievement. But someone who feels loved, someone who feels cared for, someone who feels valuable, they go achieve far greater external things anyway. And it's not always just

achievement. It also can just be attention. So sometimes people can play attention with love. So they, if I can get this woman's attention, if I can get this man's attention, if I look, but my look, if they think I look great, and I can get attention for that, then I'll feel loved. Or if they think I'm really smart, then I'll feel loved. Or if I can read them my resume, that I've got an MBA, or I've got a doctorate, then I'll feel loved.

Or I'm gonna tell them about my jet and my car. I mean, people all the time where I live here, that's like, the first three minutes is their resume. I've got this, I've got that. I did this. I did that. And I've literally stopped people here before after a while when they do it with me at this particular place of living. I go, Hey, brother, I love you. It's cool, brother. I love you. You're cool with me. If you had that jet or you didn't, I don't

love your jet. I love you. Right? I don't love how beautiful you are. I love you, right? I don't love what you're achieving. And so, we have an achievement, addicted culture as well, that's lying to people by saying, if you'll just go do these things, then you'll feel better about yourself,

then you'll be happier. And I talk a lot about blissful dissatisfaction, which is essentially this, people can flate. You can be dissatisfied and want more and still be blissful. You can live blissfully and still be dissatisfaction healthy. Disfaction says, I'm capable of this and I'm doing this. I want to fill the gap. That's wonderful. But they're not all being dissatisfied. That's totally different than being unhappy, though. So you can simultaneously be blissful and happy and dissatisfied to the extent that you want to grow and change.

I want to actually read something from the power of one more. Because you talk and you've shared a lot already in this interview about being raised by a dad who was an alcoholic, but actually then then changed and transformed later in his life and changed for you and your whole family. And also just in his own form of contribution to the world. And I'm gonna read part of this and then I would love to actually hand it over to you to read part of.

So this is page 243, page 243. Through his hard work with alcoholics anonymous, my father embraced the idea of living one more day sober, a core mantra of AA. In fact, it became the entire premise of his life. That may sound like a small thing to overcome if you've never battled addiction. But in the world of an alcoholic, winning this fight one more day at a time means everything. Once he committed to it, my dad didn't try to stay sober every remaining day of his life. He tried to stay sober one more day of his life. One day at a time, stocked upon each other

until days became weeks and months and they became years. The difference in that kind of mindset means everything to a recovering alcoholic. If you're reading this and you're thinking about quitting on your dream, a business you've started or anything important to you, don't put the pressure on yourself to meet that goal for five or 10 years of the rest of your life.

Instead, think about not quitting for one more day. And I wanna hop to one other part that I'm gonna hand over to you in a moment. And this is about your dad. The third and final thing to know is that it's never too late for one last one more. After my father died, I came across several index cards as I was putting away some of his things. On these cards were scribbled codes like 1-4JL and 1-3PT.

They were scattered on his vanity unit and taped to his bathroom mirror. These codes were dates and the initials of someone's name, and there were hundreds of them. I soon figured out that every one of those cards represented a person, my dad, had helped get sober. And the dates were that person's sobriety anniversary date.

Here's the most remarkable part. On those dates, my father would call that person, wish them a happy sobriety birthday and congratulate them. His message to them was simple. All you must do is stay sober for one more day. And I want to hand this to you if you could read the rest of this, right here. Starting with him.

He made these calls hundreds of times a year, every year, including in the last days of his life. Even while he was on oxygen struggling to breathe and could barely whisper, he still reached out and made calls to people on his no cards. Although he was in severe pain and agony, and he knew he would pass away soon, my father had to help one more person. Nobody was watching. Nobody would have known whether he made those calls or not. However, because my father lived a one more life, this was an opportunity for him to help. One last, one more human being. In the end, my father's one last, one more was a phone call to another person. It needs shortly before he passed away.

I've never been so moved or proud of my dad. Is quiet, kind. And humble gestures remain a profound example of service to others that I may never match. Now you know I have made my sincere mission to try and help as many people as possible in my life too. my father. Coming back from the brink of losing his family and everything he worked for, my father found purpose and redemption.

He made the most of the one last one more's chance he was given. Our physical being dies and we do pass from this earth at some point, but my father's one last one more legacy will live through the ages. We should all be so lucky to live our lives that well. I haven't read that since I wrote it. Come on, Jamie.

A lot of people have written and wondered, you don't need to do what you do. You don't need to show up on stages and show up and serve millions of people every day. And I guess I just wanna know in your words, you know, that you just shared, is that why you do? And why you do what you do? That was really hard, come on girl. I've just discovered that that's why when I wrote the book, I love people. And I really believe in people. I learned a lot from my dad. Dad was a really tough guy too, like a really tough guy.

And he was such a kind person and so gentle and generous. And here's what Don Don, me, when my dad passed. Someone helped my dad. And I don't know who it is. But somebody helped my dad. And if someone didn't help my dad, my family would never be, I would never be in a situation. So,

I would just like to be that person for someone in some area of their life. And that's what we're all put here to do in our own way is to help other people. And I've found, and my dad had his way of doing it, and I've found my way of doing it. And some people do it by being a great artist and making music that changes people. Some people do it by being a school teacher like my sister, right? Some people make great food. Some people care for children or there's someone's nanny and they're just amazing at changing a child's life or a family's life.

We all have our way, but when it dawned on me when I was writing this book, the way someone helped my dad. And you never know when you help somebody, the ripple effect of what that's going to be, that person, whoever they are that helped my dad, my dad then helped thousands of other people quietly every morning and night in his life helping, and then had a son who's me, who's helped a few people too. And so when you help one person, you don't know what the ripple effects are, the ramifications of that one person you've helped, that one difference you've made in their life.

And so you have a responsibility to do it. And I know what most people are thinking, what do I have to offer somebody? You know what, my dad had to offer somebody? I was a drunk. I was broken. I was a mess. That was what my dad had to offer somebody? I was a drunk. I was broken. I was a mess. That was what my dad had to offer. My dad's mess was his offer.

Not his brilliance, not his, my dad's personal mess and his personal story was what he would offer you when he would help you. So you don't have to have some magnificent talent or ability or skill or thing to help people. You have to be you. You have to have your story, your experience, your love. When I walked into McKinley, when my dad got me the job,

the first day he got sober, the orphanage I worked at, all those little boys wanted when they would turn and look at me. I walked in there, I wasn't qualified, I wasn't a psychologist, I didn't have any kids of my own. There's nothing about me that said I should be helping children, right? But guess what? I know what it's like to come from a family that's not perfect. So the only thing that qualified me to be there was my own family's mess. And all those little boys wanted for me, all they wanted, because God doesn't qualify the called, or call the qualified. He qualifies the called.

All those little boys wanted for me was really simple. Hey, love me, care about me, believe in me, and show me how to do a little better. And that's what you do. And so that's what I've learned from my dad, that's what I learned in writing the book, and it's what I've learned about each of us. And I'm super interested and optimistic about, could this become a movement in our culture where humans begin to treat each other differently?

And we say, hey, I see you. You're awesome, you're not invisible. You matter, you're important. You count. You were born to do something great with your life. I love you. I care about you. I believe in you.

Let me show you how to do a little better, right? You show me how to do a better. I'll show you how to do a little bit better. You know, I'm just thinking you share so many powerful things about your dad. And now you are a grown man with two beautiful kids. I do have two. Bella and Max. Yep.

What would you hope they would share and say about you as their dad? Wow. Well, like I said earlier, I think most things are caught not taught. That's a great question. I hope they would tell, well, I'll give you the real answer. I hope they would tell you that he loves God. And that

he was a flawed guy, but he really, really loved people and really, really tried to help people. And I watched my daddy work his butt off all the time for other people way past when he didn't need to anymore. And I hope maybe most importantly, other than God as they say, he loves me. Yeah.

He loves me. And I would love them to think what I think of my dad. He was such a good man. He was such a good man. He was a decent man. He was a compassionate man. And he just didn't ever judge anybody. You couldn't bring my dad a story or a mistake.

When you're in that kind of program menu, you hear stuff, right? Just didn't judge anybody, because he didn't want to be judged himself. So I hope my kids say, my dad really loved the Lord and my dad loved people, loved me and worked really, really hard to help people. That would be pretty cool if they would say that someday. I don't know if they would or not right now, but I hope

they say that when I'm done. You know, you bring your love for the Lord. Can you, and I know this is personal. You've been shared much about this publicly, but can you share a little about your faith, journey? Sure. That was the hardest chapter in the book to write. I told you this because I didn't want to offend anybody or put anyone off who has a different faith because I admire and respect people of all faith and I don't like when I believe religion becomes judgmental

or hey, I know something you don't know or I'm right and you're wrong. We're talking about faith here, right? So it's something that I really can't stand and I, by the way, I'm right and you're wrong. We're talking about faith here, right? So it's something that I really can't stand. And I, by the way, I'm a Christian. I also think sometimes I have this feeling that sometimes organized religion or friend Irwin likes to say, organized religion sometimes gets in the way

between people and Jesus. So there have all these thoughts about that stuff. But for me, there's one conclusion that, you know, although my earthly father was an incredible man and you know, turned things around, my heavenly father was always present. And when I went back and looked through my life as I got a little bit older,

there's one presence with me all the time that truly got me through all those times. And even though I may not have known, he was there, he knew I was there, and he was there all the time. And my faith gives me, I mean, such tremendous comfort and peace. Oh, we say I want more peace in my life and what I really mean by that is I want more

timed out my relationship with God. I have a relationship with God though, which means that it ebbs and flows. Sometimes it's better than others. I actually think questioning and asking questions about your faith is healthy, because it helps you dig deeper and find more answers. But my faith has been the center part of my life. I can only conclude that there's an incredible, powerful and loving God

that's helped me reach all these conclusions. And giving me this journey. And if I really step back, there's just no way any of the stuff that's happened I could have done on my own. And the funny thing about writing a book about how to be more happy and successful, it's a little bit of a weird feeling because although I'm giving you all the keys that I know in the book, like, all right, I'm 51, what do I know? Here's like 19 one mores and I go deep as you know, on the mind and habits and time management

and equanimity and identity and all this stuff in the book. But the truth is that there are entire pockets of my life where I can't explain them to you. They're supernatural. There's entire times in my life where I'm like, all I can conclude like when the water was turned off, it's a little bit of a blur. And then I sort of woke up and it was almost like the Lord just picked me up and carried me for a while. And it kind of put me back down and said, all right, I'm here with you still, but you're going to,

you know, and he picked me up for a while and put me back down again. And so I'd be remiss if I wrote a book about being happy and successful. And I didn't have a chapter in the book on the most important central part of all of it for me, which is that This is I believe God put us here to love one another God put us here to care about one another to believe in one other to show each other how to do better That's what I think life is and so I also believe there's a purpose to this life beyond just being here for 80 or 100 years and our body dies. How do I know that? I know that from my dad. I know that from his dad.

And so my faith is the most important part of my life. I don't have a life without it. That's just the truth. None of this matters without it. And the most powerful thing ever for me is like those two babies of mine, Max and Bella, I love them more than you could possibly imagine loving two human beings and to think that the Lord loves me even more than that

and loves you even more than that and loves someone listening to the, man, that's powerful. And the other last thing I'll say is, I believe in energy, I believe in science. I'm one of these crazy Christian people who believes that there's vibrational frequency. I actually believe in all that.

I just happen to believe a creator created all of that. But I'm not a dummy. You and I are great friends because I love your frequency. I love you. I love the energy I feel from you. I think you like mine. We all respond to energy. So I'm a diverse believer in that sense.

I'm just a devout Christian in the main sense. And so I had to write a book. I had to put that in there. Do you ever doubt your faith? I have. I've questioned it. I've doubted it. Sure.

When you see your father suffer like that. Lord, what are we doing here? Or you see a tragedy in life. There are some things that just aren't answers to. But I can tell you that there were a lot of things about my dad suffering that served other people, including me. And so, I've been able to take away these keys in my life.

Yeah, I think the truth is that, I don't believe I doubt my faith anymore to the extent of whether it's true. I doubt my depth of understanding of it. I doubt my depth of sometimes I doubt my wish I could become closer. I regret sometimes in life if I'm being honest that I think a lot of us feel like, I'm going to really get around to pursuing my faith more aggressively when, right? When.

And that time never comes. And so as many, many years ago, I went, no, that time is kind of now, but even having said that, there are things about me this calling on my heart that I feel like I want to get closer. I want to get closer. And so the doubt part probably has changed from doubt, or whether I believe what I believe, which I once have had, to more understanding and knowing more than I know. And so that's probably the doubt part. For people listening that maybe they,

you know, don't have faith in their life, but they actually want to, but they just doubt God exists, right? And they just want to maybe take like a step towards seeing if they can incorporate faith. Whatever that faith may be, by the way, into their life, like what do you say to them? Well, that's a great question,

and I get asked that a lot. So the first thing I would say to you is the fact that you're inquiring about has been calling on your heart. You would not be, you wouldn't have this calling on your heart unless there was an existence of something you know you want to know more about. So the fact that it's a calling, no one put that there that was there from your birth.

And so you're trying to come home. And what I would say to do is to get quiet and to get still. And in stillness and quietness there's a lot of answers there. And if there's somebody that you admire, I would say go have a conversation with them about their beliefs. Someone that's non-judgmental, there are great books, depending on the faith you're going to pursue. If you were to pursue my faith, I could certainly recommend some very specific books that helped me.

But I would say that, get quiet, pray about it. And then I would say, go pursue some different places. See what feels home to you. Yeah. Go visit a church, go visit a synagogue if that's appropriate for you. And go visit, and I think you'll find your home when you take action. But in life, we need to get in motion

and take action to make something change in our lives. And so go do something about it. Stop just sitting there contemplating, get quiet, get some answers, and then go try, go do something. So good and so true, and I think what you just said is really powerful. That's my own experience with going from doubting God exists for many years to then knowing beyond a shadow of it out. He exists. But part of that was going to different churches, seeing what actually

felt right. Because you feel it, you feel it. You feel it. You can't fake it. You can't fake it. You feel your home when you're home and I did too. I was raised in one particular church and then went to another and another and then I found what was my home. Same thing.

All right, you talk about taking action. I want to talk about in the power of one more. Okay, first of all, let me just say something, okay? This is the clean version. My original version is marked up. There's like thousands of highlights, notes. Yes, all the things in there. And so this is the printed last night. Yeah, with just, I don't know how many markers in here. But on page 38, you say few things are more expensive than opportunities you miss.

You pay for them with regret, doubt, and lingering haunting, a lingering haunting feeling of what could have been. So my question, has there been a moment in your journey that you should have stepped into one more, but you failed to do so? And what did you learn from that? Tons, yeah, there's a lot. That's the good news is there's redemption to if you keep pursuing the one more. I can tell you one where I should have fixed something I did. So I always tell you vulnerable stuff. My son and my son was a

golfer and or is a golfer, but was when he was young. And he had done something in the golf course that I thought he should have made a different decision. And I couldn't believe I did this, but when he was done playing, I let him know it, really aggressively. Like, I cannot, I remember what it was. So I said, I cannot believe you hit a three-wood there with the lake in front of the green. What the heck were you thinking?

And I started railing into my son who's just trying to make me proud of him golfing. And I rail into him. And like every mistake you make as a parent, you just like, that's the biggest mistakes of your life. Like I should have handled that differently. And anyway, this may seem super small, but it's massive to me.

And so it was a Sunday, and I had to go on a business trip that night. And I had the opportunity to walk in his room before I left and to fix it and to say, I'm sorry. That's not how your daddy should talk to you. I'm so proud of you. I love you. I know you were trying your best. I can't even talk about this right now because I'm so mortified by me. And I was still mad at him. Over I think he was 11, how ridiculous. And I left on the business trip. And I was gone a week.

And he mentioned to his mom every morning that I said that to him. And it just festered in him for a week. And that was one more opportunity for me to go in and say, I'm sorry. I made a mistake. And I wasn't mad enough to do it. And that's a huge regret in my life.

It seems really small because I know that little incident, even though I fixed it eventually, stays in there. It stays in there. And that was a huge mistake of mine. So I regret that I did that. And there's a bunch of business ones or major deals I didn't do or something I didn't invest in. There's lots like that. But I don't really care business ones or major deals I didn't do or something I didn't invest in. There's lots like that.

But I don't really care about all of this stuff. I care about my son. And so there's been a couple instances like that in my life where I'm like, you should have apologized. So the one more is I regret most or the times where I didn't say I was wrong. Not decisions I didn't make or business deals I didn't pursue. There's course, there's things like that.

But it's where I was like, I didn't have the humility in the moment to go away to me. I could have actually fixed it in the car. I knew I was wrong right when I did it. We've all done this as a parent, have a way. As a parent, you're like, I know what I'm saying or to a spouse. I know right now this is wrong.

And out of pride or ego or whatever it is, we don't fix it in the moment. I should have, right when the words left my mouth, I knew I saw as little face change. I saw as face change. And I should have right when the words left my mouth anyway, I saw his little face change, the saw his face change. And I should have went, oh my gosh, Daddy is so wrong. Let me pull the car over, come here. Sit on my lap, I love you.

Daddy is totally wrong right now. You were trying so hard out there. I have no idea why I talked to you like that. I'm so sorry, do you hear me? I love you, I love you. You're amazing, but I didn't do it. I didn't do it then. I didn't do it before I left.

And it took me a week until I got back to fix it. Well, that sat in my son for a week. That poison I gave him, right? So I'm telling you all kinds of stuff today that I don't normally say. But right when you asked me that, that stood out to me. Number one time as a dad, I was like, that was terrible. Yeah.

So that's one. Yeah. Well, it's relatable and really powerful. Right? When you said it, I'm like, yep, wore your spouse or. Yeah. Right away. That was stood up.

All right. So this is a really big, oh my gosh. Ed, I could talk about the chapters in this book for like 500 shows, but chapter 7, one more dream. You talk about, this is page 91, entering your dream state. So you say the happiest people in life operate out of their imaginations and dreams and not their histories. Can you just talk about imagination and this dimension of dream state and also like how does it apply to your own creative process? Because I think people will find this fascinating a lot of questions and a lot of people DM me about what's Ed's creative process

Yeah, my creative process is I'm a dreamer. So this we're not gonna get a stuff I am good at so Most people are repeat this again operate out of their history and their memory, not their imagination and their dreams. So they're constantly replaying patterns and thoughts and emotions from the past that regenerate themselves, limiting beliefs about themselves. Whereas in my case, I do do that, but I'm really, really good at imagination. Dreaming is one thing. So people say, all the time, well, I dream at night, I dream in the daytime, and I dream a lot, and dreaming is a muscle. So I am a dream mode a lot of the time. I'm driving in the car, I bet of the daytime, and I dream a lot. And dreaming is a muscle. So I am a dream mode, a lot of the time. I'm driving in the car, I bet you're this way too, Jamie. I'm just dreaming and envisioning my life, often, the future, the things I want to do.

It's a muscle I built, it's habitual. Also being habitual is rear view mirror, replaying some situation you regret, replaying an emotion you don't want. That's habitual, a memory over and over and over. And the reason it's so emotional for me to talk about the stuff with my dad is that I truly do spend most of my time in the dream, in the imagination, in the future,

being present, operating in the present, imagining the future. I don't spend most of my time, you know, living back in my memories in my history. Even though I know there's an unconscious program running in there, I don't stay back there a lot. I don't stay back there in previous achievements or previous failures.

So lucid dreaming is a muscle. And imagination is different. Imagination is something you had an abundance of when you were a child. It's why you were happier as a child in my belief system for two reasons. One, your proximity to God was just a few years ago. Okay, so you were closer to God many years ago, so you were happier and more joyous.

And two, your imagination was flourishing as a child. And the world, your parents, school teachers, started to suppress it. This is what's important. Read history, do math, be a good girl, stop dreaming, get sitting your chair, write those spelling words down, whatever it is.

And over time, we get to a certain age like we don't imagine it all anymore or very little. What percentage of your time when you were seven were you in imagination mode? And what percentage of your time at this current age are you imagining, dreaming, imagining, envisioning? And so for me, imagination is where the topics come from, the speeches come from, what I teach comes from, from imagination. If I'm in history, nothing bothers me more

than to watch a speaker or a coach repeat themselves from four years ago. I already got that one, man. I already got that one, Lee. You said that 20 years ago. A little bit of that's okay, but like, I always feel like if I'm not showing up new and different, my values diminished

because you already had that version of me. So this imagination and dreaming, by the way, I have friends that are too, hey, look at this, how about this thought, how about this place, how about this charity, how about this, you and I were doing it last night on the phone together, we're imagining and dreaming, it's the best state, it's one of the most alive.

When we're in history and memory, we're literally dying. Because you're either growing or dying as a human being. It's just a fact. And so you've got to begin to dream, lucid dreams in the daytime. I have a part of the book that's be a possibility and impossibility thinker and achiever.

Like start to just let it go, let the imagination go. Like if there weren't barriers, if there weren't obstacles, if you didn't have anything holding you back, what would you be imagining? What would you be dreaming? Where would you be going? By the way, it's a great place to go. History and memory is like some fabrication most of the time anyway or a sad place. So where you're going is awesome. Most people give themselves zero gift of imagination in dreaming or they only do it when they sleep. And when you're asleep, you're not always in control of what that dream is. But when you're awake, you can direct the dream and dreams to me are a form of prayer. You want to go to vibrational frequency. There's a, you want to go to vibrational frequency? There's an energy to a dream.

A thought has energy. A dream has energy. An imagination has energy. You are literally beginning to create something out of nothing when you imagine a dream. When you have a thought or an imagination or a dream of something, you actually create a space that exists in time that didn't exist before the imagination or the dream. And so now that that space exists, your subconscious, unconscious mind, your reticular activating

system, which is chapter 2 in the book, starts to try to furnish the space. It starts trying to put the people, places, and things in this space that you just created that didn't exist the minute before you had the thought of the dream. So you're creating new spaces in your life constantly when you imagine and dream. If I could get anything across them, so glad you brought this chapter, humans need to begin to imagine it.

Think about people you admire. You admire Oprah Winfrey, right? I admire Dr. Martin Luther King. I also admire Oprah, but most of the people that you admire, they're dreamers. They got big imaginations. The people that you really look up to,

you look up to some political person, or actor, entertainer, or somebody that you know, they got a vivid imagination. They're a vivid dreamer. My hero literally is famous for saying, I have a dream. Come on, man. I mean, that's incredible.

So that's the part of life that we're all the juices. You can hear even my energy change when we talk about this topic. It's where you're the most alive and it's where you're supposed to be is dreaming. Dreaming in the future, operating in the present. It is so powerful. And to say that when you dream, right, daydream,

or dream, a dream that your particular activating system goes to furnish that space. Absolutely, yes. So true. I'm just thinking as so many times in my life that's happened, but I'm imagining so many people listening to us right now that are like, oh gosh, I gotta start dreaming.

Like, what have I been doing? It's free. It's free. It's the highest form of entertainment. And it's completely free. And it's the best thing you could ever give your soul and your spirit and yourself to change your life.. It's completely free and it's the best thing you could ever give your soul and your spirit and yourself to change your life.

And there's no cost to it. Mm, that's beautiful. Life changing for a lot of people. Yeah, I hope so. Even just starting in baby steps even. And you talk about, I have two really fun rounds that I wanna do before I close, but one thing I wanna say Ed that I think

is really unique to you. And I know that you haven't always been this way. And maybe it's part of your own growth. But I feel like you do something I rarely ever see done publicly. And that's that you are not afraid to show vulnerability. You're not afraid to show sort of these beautiful, what would normally look like contrasting things. And what I mean by that is you're this dude with muscles and then you're like narrating your two pomeranians day, daisy and lily, right? You are, you know, you're setting this stadium like on fire, people just, their lives are being so impacted and then you're also very introverted.

You know what I mean? There's kind of this contrast. You do it so well, I think, even with, you know, sharing real direct, you know, very direct, confident statements or tools or tips. But then you'll share how, you know, very direct, confident statements or tools or tips. But then you'll share how, you know, you're not feeling so well.

And you know, this is happening. It's sort of this contrast of showing all sides of you. And I'm just, you know, I'm just wondering how you got to that place. Because a lot of people are scared. They show up not just in social media, but in their day-to-day lives as part of who they are, but not as all of who they are.

How did you get to this place of showing up, like, and with a confidence, as all of you are? Great question. Most people are pretty complex, and I am. I mean, there's a lot of simple things about me, but I'm a pretty complicated person in that sense. I am really, really intense, and then I hopefully, pretty kind person.

I think that I do it because I just got tired of trying to pretend I was perfect. I just got tired of it. I want people to have hope, not idolization. And so, I want people to go, you know, hey, if this guy... Hold on, hold on. You want people to have hope, not idolization. Right.

How many people out there right now are just... That's not their priority. That is huge, Ed, what you just said. It's so... Thank you. It's, well... And the people that were my idols, once I met them, I was like, well, wait a minute here, right? So I want people to go, hey, this is a flawed imperfect person

which we all are. And man, I'm watching this guy fight to really change who he is and get better and grow. And he's got obviously learned a lot of tools for doing it. In fact, the reason that I'm so into personal development, self-improvement, self-confidence, all these other things is for me to just become a baseline functioning person I had to have these tools.

And then when I got to baseline, I'm like, well, wait a minute, maybe we could take this further and actually be happier and successful. So I want to show that I want to be able to not show, it's not even showing, it really isn't. It's just like, here it is. I'm not conscious like I'm going to show that I want to be able to not show. It's not even showing. It really is. And it's just like here it is. I'm not conscious like I'm going to show.

I'm just like this is me. Like I'm a really intense dude. I love to compete, but I really love people. And also I think over time as we age, we change. You know, I think, you know, the 25 year old me probably would be totally unwilling. I don't know, maybe that's not true. I think a lot of people would tell you even that I was that way. But maybe I'm a little bit more unafraid to just say,

listen, I have fears and insecurities and I made this mistake with my son and, you know, I love God and I love my dad and, you know, I have fears and I think that, hopefully by hearing those things you go, well, man, if he could do it, I could do it. This is not some perfect person. He's got it all figured out. I'll just say this, I've got some things figured out. And that's better than I used to be. And if I could give you what I know,

maybe I could save you a bunch of time, a bunch of mistakes I made, speed up your happiness and success through all the mistakes I've made. So I also like love people like you. And this is where all this kind of comes together. I love really confident people who have a ton of humility. And I don't love confident people who don't have humility. And I'm not really interested in being on a bunch of humble people who have no self-confidence. Self-confident people who have humility are curious. They want to learn,

they want to grow. Self-confidence person without that, they're hard to be around. You know this. And they eventually probably make a mistake or burn out or whatever. And then our humble friends who we love so much, they're just hard to take through life with you. If they have no self-confidence, like, come on, you can do it. Let's go. And so I love people who tread that nuance really well. You do that as well as anybody I've ever met before. Like there's this strength of a woman in there. Like there's this, and I've watched you like defend me in different situations like, like there's this really strong

confident woman who knows who she is, but so humble, so much humility that she still has this other part of her that's, you know, am I, and also wants to learn, wants to grow, values other people, right? The humility is I think sometimes just the value of other people. And when you know all the self-confidence and no humility is like, are you the most important person?

Yeah. So hopefully over time, I've nuanced that pretty well. I think it's beautiful. I mean, even when you're doing animal voices, on your head, I think it's beautiful, because I think people at home are like, oh, I do that too. And I think it's just this beautiful kind of like showing all sides.

And I want to say, it's obviously no accident. Millions and millions of people connect with you, your shows. showing all sides and you know I want to say it's obviously no accident millions and millions of people connect with you your shows and you are one of the few people who does a really good job at showing both sides of things you'll have somebody you know talk about politics you have somebody extremely left one day and the next day someone extremely right you'll show both sides of everything never even sharing where you're at. And you, you know, I've always felt this.

And this has always kind of just been dumb-founding to me that I feel like the quickest way to get dull in life is to only surround yourself with people that think the way you do. Yes. Right? And so many people only surround themselves with people who think the way that they do. Well, that's the thing to do now, isn't it? You only be around people who share your political beliefs, your spiritual beliefs, your life beliefs. You know what's your truth? And you know this, you haven't learned it very much from them. You very rarely learn anything from anybody who completely agrees with you on everything. And even in your companies, you know this, when we're building the company, I want people to disagree with me, I want people who challenge me,

I want people with a diverse background, I want people who come out from a completely different perspective. And so I have lots, as you know, and so do you, and we laugh about some of our mutual friends that disagree with stuff with each other. My dad and I disagreed on a lot of stuff. One of the most interesting, fascinating things about my dad was we didn't agree on political things all the time. We certainly didn't agree on political things all the time.

We certainly didn't agree on religious things all the time. Our outlook on all kinds of stuff was very different to say that my dad and I are the same person in that regard is in true. My favorite person, you know, that my adult person in my life is my dad and me and him disagreed on lots of stuff and I learned lots of stuff and some of the things over time I do think more like him again you know but I don't want people around me all the time who agree with me and I don't want people all the time when they just agree with everything I think how boring you're right no you're right no you're right oh we're both right isn't this crazy and they're so this and they're so that what a and it is so our culture now, isn't it like you know

It's so our culture and like and every facet is trying to put us in these camps like you're over there You're one of those you're one of those. I'm one of these and you used man That is absolutely not how this thing supposed to work Absolutely 100% counter to how the world is supposed to work I promise you of all the things we talked about today, I'm the most sure of what I'm telling you right now, that we are supposed to be different. They're supposed to be diversity,

of thought, of behavior, of background, of culture, of religion, of ethnicity. The diversity in our world is the strength of this world. And if there was ever a leader who rose up and said, I'm embracing that, and I'm not even gonna let you play your game where you're pitted against one another. Yeah. Oh, man, would we change the world? Well, speaking of that, I mean, I know you are, you are, you are paid to counsel country leaders, which I won't go into that. But what I will ask you on what you just said is maybe the billion dollar question of the

day. Will you ever run for office? Oh, yeah. Probably not. Probably not. I'm not going to say I never would. If I thought like, if I thought doing that, if I thought doing that would make a bigger difference in the world, or I could be utilized to make a bigger difference, if that time ever arose I would

do it, but I don't think that time will arise. I think my platform and the freedom of that platform probably allows me to make a bigger contribution in a bigger difference anyway. And the truth is, in the way that the political world works right now, I'm not so sure that I fit in anywhere specifically. So I doubt that that's a good thing. Maybe that's a good thing. What's that?

Maybe that's a good thing. So I would say probably, I'd say, don't hold your breath on that one. You never know, you never say never, but right now, definitely, I could tell you this. For one more day, I'm definitely not that I know. All right. Page 189 on the book.

In the book, the power one more. I went in my favorite quotes in the whole book. Dare to challenge yourself to make history. How will Ed Mylett make history? Wow, come on Jamie, these are good questions. I'll make history. If I ever make history, if I make history, it will be by leveraging the beautiful talents and skills and backgrounds of other people.

It wouldn't be me. It would be my ability to gather people who could do something collectively great together. I'm a really big believer in the collective soul, the collective mind. More than I am one person doing something. And I think that's another part of our culture that's gotten really skewed as well. So if I'm going to make history, it will be like, what my dad did, it'll just be by helping one person at a time. And with their life be happier or more successful or be more seen or achieve their potential. And I will do that by gathering the skills and talents of a lot of other people.

And I'm not... What I say do something historic in your life, what I mean by saying that to you is that you should have a sense of the historic, meaning you are making history. Your life is being documented. There's a book being written about you. If you're a person of faith like you and I, we know that there's an accounting. There's a book being written about you. If you're a person of faith like you and I, we know that there's an accounting. There's a book of our life happening.

Even if you don't believe any of that stuff, someone's probably paying attention somewhere, right? So at some point, if your great grandchildren came along and read the book of your life, if it ended right now, if the final chapter were right now, on the book of you, would you be satisfied with the totality of that book?

Of all the best chapters been written or are there better ones to write? And if there are better ones to write, what are you doing to write them better? What book, what resource, what podcasts, what friends, what decision, what one more emotion, what one more thought? Are you looking for to write the best chapters of your life?

And the good news about this book of you is it's not over if you're listening to this. The other good news is there's two co-authors, you and God. And any chance you want, you can write a new chapter, you can be a whole new character, you can flip the script. Like I did at some point,

you decide to step in and write the best chapters of your life. At any point, you as the author of this, the chapters don't have to repeat themselves, but right now, if your great-grandkids came along and read that book, would they put it up and go, wow, look at that moment,

like I would with my dad, look at that family he helped, look put it up and go, wow, look at that moment, like I would with my dad. Look at that family, he helped. Look at that person, he helped quietly. Look at that change. Look at, look how he lived those 15 years of his son's life and then look at the next part. Or in your life, would the chapters just start kind of running together?

At some point, one chapter looked like the other, looked like the other, and they go, this is a little bit boring. And would they put the book down? Would they be inspired? Because there's four types of people. There's unmotivated. Then there's motivated people, which are wonderful. They're driven by motives. I want to achieve this to get that. Then there's inspirational people. These are people who are removed in spirit, right? Those are amazing human beings. They move people with energy

in spirit. Then there's the highest level, which is aspirational, where people aspire to be more like you, aspire to be like you. When someone read your book right now, would they say you were unmotivated, motivated, inspirational, or how about aspirational? That eventually when your great-grandkids read that book of your life, they go,

I wanna be more like grandma, or great-grandma. She was courageous. She helped people or great grandma. She was courageous. She helped people. She grew. She took risks. She changed. She loved people. She cared about people.

She was special. Just like my sister who's the school teacher, or just like her brother me in different ways, that book of your life you're the author of, and it's supposed to be a masterpiece. And you can get to writing the best chapters now chapters now right now and my dad proved it. First 35 years or so of his life one way the second half magnificent on the topic of your book. I just want to be a friend one more time.

Okay, because people don't know this I learned after my own book people don't know that it is so important for everyone who wants to support you, right? Who is part of your community and loves your content, just wants to champion you. A lot of people wonder, what can I do for Ed? Ed pours into me every single day of my life. What can I do for Ed?

What you can do for Ed? Let me just say it, and he doesn't know I'm gonna say it this, but I'm gonna say it, is by his book. And don't just buy it, it's so important to either pre-order it or order it as close to the release date as possible. So if it's just coming out this week when you're listening to this or we're a week or two after when it's launched, you want to buy it right now. A lot of people don't know that for authors.

But it's so important to either pre-order it or buy it as close to the launch date as possible because that's how retailers will keep their inventory, make sure it doesn't sell out. That's how they know there's demand and you're uncomfortable with me saying this. But I'm just going to say it because you know, we're all friends here. You got to be there for your friends, right? And when it comes to making any of the lists, right? The Wall Street Journal, all the different lists, they often gauge the sales most of all in the beginning.

So show up for Ed. We're beginning. So show up for Ed. We're all gonna show up for Ed and grab a copy of the power of one more, not only because it's gonna change your life, but also it's just a beautiful way to support you. And if you're able to grab it, grab it as soon as you can. And I shared this earlier,

but my favorite thing to do is, like in my Amazon Dropbox, or you can do this even on target.com, Barnes and Noble.com. This is in a lot of independent bookstores. I'll just go on, you know, some people I just want to blast or say, you know, I'm thinking of you, and I'll click on their address and ship them a book. So it's a beautiful thing to give and to share. And I want to thank you for sharing your heart today. We have- Jamie, thank you for doing this today. For your preparation, I love you.

You're such a wonderful friend. And showing up for me to do this, you know that I would only do this with you. And showing up makes me just appreciate you showing up so much for me on so many different things that no one here knows about. But you're the most generous, giving kind person. And to share this time with you is my favorite interview ever,

if it's ever been on my show, or that I've ever been a part of ever. And I usually get other people crying on my show. You actually got me crying on my own show today. But I really, really, really, truly love you. And I'm grateful for you. So thank you so much for doing this for me today. Thank you. You see that in me because that's what's in you, right?

So, and I think everyone knows that. So thank you. Thank you. I love you. I'm excited for you. Thank you. I'm proud of you. And yeah.

All right. Max out everybody. This is The Ed Milach Show. The Edom Mylet Show.