THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Paige Hathaway - Fitness Lifestyle Expert

Episode Date: July 10, 2018

Paige Hathaway is a small town girl, born and raised in Minnesota. Although she had grown up playing soccer and being active, she had never made her health or fitness a priority. After being approache...d at the gym about doing a fitness competition, she worked harder than ever, and placed 2nd at Ronnie Coleman Classic. This gained Paige a massive amount of exposure, and it was then that she decided to undertake a career in the fitness industry. Paige took a grassroots approach to building her career. She attended every fitness expo and passed out flyers about herself to everyone in the industry. As she was trying to build a name for herself in fitness, she realized the true power of social media, especially Instagram. In one year, she went from having a few hundred Instagram followers to over half a million. She now has over 4 million followers on Instagram, with a very high engagement percentage. She loves competing, modeling and working with companies like Shredz. What she has found most fulfilling is helping other people achieve their fitness goals. Paige wants to motivate others to be healthy, fit and confident. She sets an example of someone who makes her health a priority while still living a fun balanced life!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And my let is the premier inspirational speaker life coach and peak performance expert in the United States today. Welcome back to max out with Ed my let I got her right next to me everybody. This is page half away and I put a pull out the beginning of the year. I said, who are the top 10 people? You would like to have on my program to my audience. One woman out of the top 10 was on there. You. Wow. Isn't that cool? That is so cool. Yeah. That's amazing. So thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. I hope this is like 20% as good as our off camera conversation. Yeah. It's been good so far. We've been laughing and having a good time. So glad to have you
Starting point is 00:00:44 here. Thank you. Today is going to take two different tracks everybody for your listening, because there's two places I want to go down two roads with you. The first is obviously fitness. Those of you that don't know Paige, you should know that she's got four million followers on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:00:57 She's risen to the top of that space. And she's a really a top influencer and expert in the fitness space. So we're going to talk a lot about that from the fitness standpoint and also building a brand and social media. But the other part that really fascinates me is you because of your story and what you had to overcome
Starting point is 00:01:14 and achieve to get to where you are. So there's two things as you're listening today. For those of you for fitness, you're gonna get a lot out of that. But those of you that are chasing any dream, any vision you've got in your life, this lady has the formula and recipe that worked for her and I think her story is going to inspire you because it did me as I did research for the interview. Cool, it's going to be a lot. We're going to cover a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Let's hit it. Yeah. Alright, we've drinking our bang energy drink and so we're ready to do that now. So let's start out talking for a second about you because I was fascinated when I found this out and that was not that many years ago, you didn't look like this. No. You weren't overweight, you were kind of the reverse and I think there's a lot of women, frankly, or men that can relate to this in the fact that you're just a skinny girl, right? Definitely. So how did you get into fitness in the first place because I asked you earlier off camera like, were you always in a gym like a gym rat and you said no, so how'd you get there?
Starting point is 00:02:03 always in a gym like a gym rat and you said no, so how did you get there? So I was living in Oklahoma at the time. This was seven years ago now. Oh my gosh. And you know, I moved out when I was really young. I moved out when I was 16 years old and I had to grow up really fast and I had a few jobs and I was just going to college. I worked three jobs and I had this guy that I knew. He's a friend of mine now, but a guy that I knew Just saw like my work ethic and just thought I was really driven and he was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:02:32 I think that he would be really good at doing bikini shows He was like it takes a lot of you know, you know a dedication and I just see that in you and you're not you're not going out Partying you're you're in there working and And I was just like a bikini show. I didn't work out at the time. I was just like, that sounds so foreign to me, like to be on stage in a bikini. But he was so adamant on, he's like, I just think that you would do really well. I think you could be something big in the fitness industry. It's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:03:01 It's kind of weird. He saw a vision in myself before I even did. Wow. Yeah. So, you know what? I was like, what do I have to lose? Yeah, and I'm all in a lot of kind of person. So I was just like, why not? Let's do it. So I trained for a show Okay, and I fell in love with it. Did he train you? He trained me? Okay And I just fell in love with it instead of doing like a small show in the in Oklahoma Yeah, I was like I don't't wanna do the Oklahoma show anymore. I wanna go big or go home.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So I did the biggest show in the US. As your first show. As my first show. Oh my God. And I got second. Whoa. Yeah, so from there, it's kinda like going into the casino and putting in a quarter and like, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:38 winning a jackpot on your first time. I was like on Cloud 9 and from there, I just became addicted to it. That's crazy because I find with most people that are Successful. They're all in or all out types. Yeah, all in but so I also want to understand this. Everyone here's this you were not a training type person and this guy grabs you says I think you'd be good at this and your first show is the biggest one in the Country and you finish second. Yeah, that's unreal. I know it's kind of crazy. So what happens from there? So now you're like, hey, I'm good at this. Yeah. So what did you want to do with it at the time?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Did you know, are you like, I'm going to go do modeling? I want to do more shows. Like what were you thinking? You know, from there, that's a good question. From there, I knew I wanted to do something in the fitness industry, right? So I did do a few more shows. But at that time, bikini shows were still new.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And I'm just the type of, I have more muscle. Like it's just like how I've always been, I've carried more muscle, I've been more muscle and more muscle and more shoulders in my back. And bikini wasn't muscular seven years ago, six years ago, it was more like soft. So I wasn't, come to find out, I wasn't good at shows. You know, after I started competing more and more,
Starting point is 00:04:46 I wasn't doing well because I started working out more so then I started building more muscle. So I became too muscular for bikini. Okay, so wait a minute. So you finished second in a show. I just want to follow this. Yes. And then, because this is relates, entrepreneurs can relate to this. So you do really well, but then now you start having some setbacks.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yes. Like you're not winning shows. Yes. Really? So you went from your first but then now you start having some setbacks. Yes. Like you're not winning shows. Yes. Really? So you went from your first win. Five-time. Okay. Winning a show.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Two doing a second show, doing terrible, doing a third show, doing even worse. Wow. Yeah. So then I was like, okay, shows aren't my thing, but I want to do fitness, fitness modeling, and something like that. So that's when I went back to the drawing board I was like, I mapped out, how do I, how do I do this? You know, what are some options for me
Starting point is 00:05:29 to get my name out there? Yeah. And that's how I discovered different ways to get my name out there. Yeah, but you really did. So, lesson one, she started out great, she went it all in, lesson two, setback, setback, setback, which is where most people end their dream. Yeah. They're like, okay, this was a fluke, I'm two, setback, setback, setback, which is where most people end their dream.
Starting point is 00:05:45 They're like, okay, this was a fluke, I'm not gonna make it, they don't find alternative ways get to the same place of happiness or success, right? So, you fit this new path, but when you say you pursued it, I kind of know this part of the story, but like, you really pursued getting your name out there. Explain to everybody what you started to do. So this young girl in Oklahoma,
Starting point is 00:06:03 which is not the hot bed in the United States of fitness queens, right? Right? Weren't really in the industry very long. You start right in letters, don't you? So what did you do? Yeah, so you know, I just went back to the drawing board. I was like, all right, shows aren't working out for me. Not to say that I would never have worked out with me if I didn't stick with it, but I just wanted to find a different route. So I went back to the drawing board and I just wrote down many different ways that I could get my name out there. Being from Oklahoma, who knows who I am?
Starting point is 00:06:33 You know, no one. So I wrote down, you know, print magazine. I wrote down different contests and competitions that I could apply for. I wrote down different fitness expos that I could go to. I just wrote down everything I could possibly find out about like the fitness industry and then I just started attending, putting my name out there, trying out for things. I literally turned into like a yes man and did everything I could to you know make make my name know. In a positive way that I wanted to do and eventually you know, make my name know. Out there. In a positive way that I wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And eventually, you know, stuff paid off. So I started writing magazines. That's one of the things on my list. It's writing Cosmo, Women's Health. I mean, I really. She's writing, hey, I'm Paige. Yeah. You got like to be involved somehow, or?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, you want to know someone did write me back. It was, I think it was Women's Health that wrote me back. They were like, we'd love to have you in the magazine, actually went to New York, and then they were like, are you represented by someone? And I wasn't. I was living in Oklahoma,
Starting point is 00:07:33 so they set me to an agency, and the agency actually said, would you have an Instagram, do you have a pop card, do you have any of this stuff? And I was like, no. So that's when I went back to Oklahoma. I was like, all right, I need to create an Instagram. I need to You're portfolio. I was like no. So that's when I went back to Oklahoma. I was like all right I need to create an Instagram. I need to create a
Starting point is 00:07:49 portfolio. I need to. And so I just started building on the things that you know I went to expose. I passed out comp cards at expose. You just kitchen sinked it. I did everything I could. That's what when people ask me like what how do you how do you do and I just tell them you got to you've got to just do everyone want something, right? They want to be something they want to achieve something, but you've got to take the steps. Yeah, you went shocking on.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Like you went all in. Like people start a business, they're like, well, I'll call these three people. No, you've got to, bam, you've got to call everybody, you've got to see everybody, you've got to talk to everybody, right? And she's not even giving herself enough credit because I know part of this story.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So I just want you all to know this. That New York trip. Yeah. This is amazing. I want you to know this. That New York trip. Yeah. This is amazing. I want you to picture this. I'm picture this young girl and she's fit and she had one good show. And then it doesn't go so good.
Starting point is 00:08:32 She's like, but I want this bad. I want you to all picture this because this is what she's turned into from these decisions, everybody, right? And so you did. You wrote everybody. One person finally writes you back. They say, can you be in New York next week? You have no money.
Starting point is 00:08:47 You borrow money. Who do you borrow from your aunt? Right, she borrows money from her aunt to go on this trip. Flies out there, doesn't know. Anybody in New York's an Oklahoma girl just wanting it so bad. And then they go, do you have an agent? You go, no, I don't have an agent. They sent you to an agency like you literally left
Starting point is 00:09:04 their building in you and took the subway. Yes. That's just amazing to me that you just kept chasing this. And then that didn't work out either. I do. Okay, so let's talk about some. I just want you to understand the when you see the afters, you don't, you need to know all of the rejection, all of the hardship, all of the faith, all of the effort, and I just love when someone wins,
Starting point is 00:09:27 because I know how lonely those times must have felt for you. You didn't know what to do. You didn't have any mentors or coaches yet. You're just like, I want it, right? I love that about you. But then there's finally, you're just gonna keep knocking doors down until something happens. So was there a turning point?
Starting point is 00:09:42 I know you had a kind of a hero you end up connecting with. So was there like a turning point where you're like, I kind of feel like I could do this now? Was there a point? You know, I just kept on putting my name out there. I tried out for like bodybone.com spokesperson. I tried out for Flex Magazine, had a spokesperson contest.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I did everything you could. I went to expose, I've made comp cards, and I passed out comp cards to just random people with my name on it, with my email. I did everything and you want to know, I don't know. There was a supplement company that came, wasn't up a company, something went company back in the day, back in the day like five years ago. Back in the day.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I can take it back in the day. You're having a pack of the day, five years ago. I can take it back in the day. Bye, Ruth. Yeah. And they were looking for the face of their company, and they had heard there was this girl, because at that time too, I was building Instagram. Yeah. I was trying to build that, because I heard from the New York trip
Starting point is 00:10:35 that got to create some leverage with that. So I started building that, and this supplement company came about, and they were like looking for a face, and then they reached out to me. They heard Through asking people that there is this girl in Oklahoma, you know at the time I had like 20,000 followers Yeah, you know, she they had heard they had heard the story of me going to Olympia to pass out cards You know, she must really want it. Maybe you can meet with her and see if she'd see if she'd want to be the face So I met with them and
Starting point is 00:11:04 Wow, I think there's this thing she wants to be the face. So I met with them and, wow. I think there's this thing. I just want to acknowledge something you did and just add to lessons. Because I think great people sometimes do things unconsciously great. So I think when you just make massive effort like that, even if you're not even the best at something,
Starting point is 00:11:18 I think people want to help you when they see you sacrificing so much, right? Didn't you have a mentor, I'll mess her name up, but tell me a little bit about this inspirational meeting you have with this, is it chatty? Oh yes. Okay, can you just tell them about that? I think it's also important at some point that
Starting point is 00:11:33 someone you admire when you're chasing your dream eventually goes, you got what it takes, right? That happened for you somewhere. Yeah, so I, before Instagram, it used to be people in magazines, right? That, you know, you would look up to as your role model. There was a lady who's my friend now, but her name is Chatti Dunmore.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And she used to be, and she's an incredible woman, but she used to be my idol. I used to look up to her with what she's done, because she also had a really cool story and built a lot up for herself. But yeah, so she actually, I had an encounter with her when I was trying to make it. How did you have the encounter? Social media.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Yeah, yeah. Social media. And then, one of my first photoshoots at her were with her. So it was just kind of cool. With one of your heroes. Yeah, with one of my first photoshoots ever were with her so it was kind of cool. With one of your heroes. Yeah, with one of my heroes. It's crazy. But yeah, so...
Starting point is 00:12:31 But she told you didn't she say I see something in you, you can do this right? That happened for you. Yeah, and it just really helped drive me motivated me because you know when you get, you try so much and you know if you're trying to be successful at something, if you try so much and you fail at so much or things don't work out, you can be a little discouraging. You know, I was trying so many things and nothing that's really working out, but I didn't give up, and I think that was like the pinnacle of everything kind of working out. I really respect you, because I, I think people see, like, and I want you to go to her Instagram
Starting point is 00:13:04 and hear YouTube and see what she does. And I think when you watch that, you're going, wow, this beautiful, fit, confident woman. And I love picturing this girl going, what's Instagram? She takes the subway to the agency in New York and just you, that lonely part of the journey before 4 million people plus follow you and millions of people have viewed your content. It's what you do when nobody's watching that makes the difference, not once everybody is watching. And so I really, really respect where you've come from to get where you are.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And I want your fans and I want my audience to know that if she can come from Oklahoma, and not even be in the industry, and have rejection after rejection after rejection, no clear path either everybody. This wasn't like, okay, this is how you do this. Exactly, that's another thing too of being in, I guess, my realm of fitness industry. There was, you know, girls that were in magazines to kind of like have paid that way, but no one has really paved the way that I did. So I didn't have a path to kind of look after and be like,
Starting point is 00:14:05 oh, well, they did this, this, and this. So I'm gonna do this, this, and hopefully it works. I just kind of high had to figure it out all myself. Yeah, you did. You've done it different. And now people are sorting, following your pattern. Yeah. To some extent, right?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Let's talk about that pattern now, that kind of transition. So how have you built such a significant following on social media? What have been some of the keys to you building such a great following? And is it the content? Is it when you post? Is it, do you think it's just your personality coming through? What do you think the reasons are you've grown such a big following?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Yeah, so one thing that I do believe in is just to be genuine and authentic. I think to be able to connect to your readers or your viewers or whoever it is that you're trying to reach. To be able to connect to them in a certain way, I really enjoy writing a lot of motivational things on my photos and just kind of like where I came from and like the struggles of life and how to be successful or how to get re-eared. So to connect to your viewers is really important because that's gonna really build a more of like a bond with them so they get more like deeply rooted
Starting point is 00:15:13 into your brand. I also, if you're trying to grow, do what I did and become like a yes man, and good. What do you mean by that? What's that mean? Reach out to people, do things for free. I didn't get paid.
Starting point is 00:15:28 A lot of the times people want to just get paid for things, but I didn't get paid for a lot of things before I started to actually be able to get paid for things. And a lot of people I think feel kind of high in my deep, just soon, and they're not going to do it unless they get paid. I did so much stuff for free. And I still do things for free. So become a yes, man. Doing today for free. Yeah, I give you energy drink.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, I do drink. You know, one thing you there's two lessons there everybody because I've copied you on this. I didn't know I was copying you but I was. One is collaboration. Which is what you just said. Like getting sharing audiences, sharing communication, sharing information but this is really subtle, huge thing. What I looked at your feeds and I've been watching it for, you know, obviously a long time now, it is not just the picture you post or the video post. I really believe the more powerful thing is the word you use with the post. We'll call it the caption. Like you really do. I do too. I can tell you've put a lot of thought into what you want to say. I was surprised on social media
Starting point is 00:16:24 how much people really do read them too. Right. I was surprised on social media how much people really do read them too. Right, I was too. That's been a key for you in building your following. Yeah, no, that's one of the things that I just, especially when I meet people that I've never met before, when I do an appearance or something somewhere and they are like, you've changed my life.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And I've never even met them. It's through the words under my photos. It's such a powerful thing just to be able to do that. I do think social media is really interesting because there's usually these one minute videos and it's amazing to me how much in a minute and on someone's page you really do get a sense of who they are. Like I really you really are sweet. You really are a kind person. You are and you're incredibly hard hustling, hard working, you know, and humble about it. Like I love humility in people. I think it's such a redemptive thing and so I'm wondering how much of this comes from fitness so let's keep going down this road a little bit how
Starting point is 00:17:12 is just fitness in general changed your life in other words what I mean by that was if I met the girl before the first bikini show it was at the gym sometimes was she this woman this confident this strong like how has fitness changed you? Just the act of getting fit and training because I want to sell everybody that's not training, not fit on getting there because it transfers over to another part of your life, at least in my opinion, but you can tell me. Yes. Well, I mean, before fitness, I was just working a few jobs and you know what you want to know I was I was really complacent with life and I didn't really have a direction or I didn't feel like out of purpose or anything like that. When I got into fitness just the
Starting point is 00:17:55 dedication that I put into you know it's it's it's hard when you're especially training for a show. Yeah you have to be really strict on your diet and you have to work out two times a day, do it in cardio, you know, it's just like a lot. I don't know, that really, I'm so glad that I did that because it just had a huge effect throughout all the areas of my life with being dedicated towards the hustle
Starting point is 00:18:23 of building my business and building my brand. And it's just what I've learned through working out and being dedicated in that field has just had like a huge effect all over my whole life. Fitness really changed my life in so many positive ways. Why do you think more people aren't fit? That's, I mean... Good question, huh? Yeah, that is a good question. One of the things that That's, I mean... Good question, huh? Yeah, that is a good question. One of the things that I hear, I mean, I,
Starting point is 00:18:48 people have a lot of excuses. But one thing is, if it's not in your routine, it's hard for it to be in someone's routine. Like, oh, I really gotta go to the gym, but it's not in their routine, so it's really difficult. I always tell them, like, I have days that I don't want to go to the gym too. You know, I'm sure you do. Big time.
Starting point is 00:19:06 But yeah, but if you just get your butt in there. So true. And then you leave and you feel like I'm so glad I did that. My biggest thing is just get driving to the gym. So even if I don't want to go, I'll just, I'm just, I drive, I force myself to go. Wow. That's crazy because that's what I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I'm like, you know what, I don't want to go. I'm not even sure I'm going to walk in when I get there or something, but I'm like, inevitably when I get to the parking lot, I get, I'm like, you're going to go. There are even times I've sat in my car for 20 minutes. I'm like, all right, now I'm going in. Like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So it's like, you're right, it is part of the routine of just making it part of your habit and getting there. Like, 100% totally, 1 million percent acknowledged it. But now that it is part of your routine, my routine, once you don't go to the gym, you feel bad. Not even you don't feel like bad, but you just feel sluggish, you don't have energy, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:55 So just make it part of your routine. I agree. It might be difficult at first, but. Let's talk routine. Yeah. Now we're getting fitness stuff here. So first things first, Mike and Nico. I know want to know this. They want to know what is the best exercise to build your butt So what like and I know a lot of the ladies are like you're watching this too like give me one exercise
Starting point is 00:20:18 One tip from watching this that builds your booty the best What would it if you had to give me one? What would it be one only one? Okay? You can give me three if you want, throw me some thoughts on that. I would probably do one, it probably some of the targets that glutes more like a hip thrust or anything like that. Okay, what about squats, are they good for that or do you not do squats? I do do squats. You do.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I do do squats. Yes, I do squats, but yeah, I mean it's not the best to target your glutes, but it's a great lower body exercise, I mean actually it's not the best to target your glutes, but it's a great lower body exercise. I mean, actually all over, but. So give me one more. What's one more great booty building exercise? I mean, I don't wanna say stuff that's gonna like for guys, because like.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I was kidding for that. It's really a question for the ladies. I was like, they have good glutes, so I don't know. I'm not going there and I totally disagree. I mean, something like the Bulgarians, what squat? Would be a really good one. So if you're going to want to build your glutes, the hip thrusters, the Bulgarians, what squat?
Starting point is 00:21:10 And they can Google what that is if they don't know what that is right now. Or you can show them after this. We'll show. I'll take you some Bulgarian split squats. Those are major part of my routine as you can all tell from looking at me. So, okay, so in all seriousness though,
Starting point is 00:21:24 about your fitness routine, as you can all tell from looking at me. So, okay, so, in all seriousness though, about your fitness routine, you can look like this and not be a complete crazy person about your diet. So, I was watching something where you were talking about, there was a stage of your life where like your diet and your cardio was just cray cray, right? So, talk about what that was like, because if you're really gonna compete in a show,
Starting point is 00:21:42 there is this level, people ask me, like at my age, like why don't you try to go, you know, I don't want to die like that. I just don't. I like wine and things other than chicken, you know, like sometimes. So, like, you, you recommend what diet wise for people, and even in your own case, you're shredded, you're very, I mean, obviously, crazy fit. But you also kind of, you don't do cardio nine days a week and for three hours. And so, take them a little bit through what you do and what you would recommend or you think
Starting point is 00:22:07 is at least passable. Of course. So I used to be super 100, like I said, I'm 100% and 100% out in type person. So I used to not, like I used to eat like 10 foods. I used to cardio every single day, workout every single day for at least like two hours. Like I was just, I mean when you hit, when you get competing, I feel like you get in this competing mode where you just like, I don't know, it's something that now that I look back and I'm like, how did I do that? But now I mean, I believe in more of like an 80-20. So 80% clean, 20% live your life. Like when I was competing and 100% in like that type of mentality, I didn't go to family
Starting point is 00:22:48 functions, I didn't go to birthdays, I didn't like, I secluded myself so it wasn't even good for me like mentally because I wasn't around people. I was like, oh I can't go that to that because I might you know cheat or am I, then I'm going to feel bad and then I'm going to have to do cardio. It's just like a down word spiral and you can't live your life like that. So I mean I just, I eat clean 80% of the time, 20%. If I'm going somewhere, if I want something, I'm going to have it. I'm just not going to overly indulge in it.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Moderation is key. Don't be yourself up about it. Don't go in the stair master for an action hour. But now I'm actually a pethcaterian, I don't know if you know that, but I get my protein from fish and plant-based stuff and I just do that for my own health reasons that I've had. And it's worked for me, but- Can I ask you, do you mean by your own health reason?
Starting point is 00:23:38 My body didn't respond well to eating other meats, so- Yeah, so for as long as I can remember I just had a digestion issue and so I was just researching how to naturally help this and a lot of it came back to red meat. For you. For me. So I was like I'm just going to try cutting meat out altogether and see if I can do that. I can't be vegan. I've learned this. I just can't do it. So I did that for a month and I was like okay this isn't working for me.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So then I went in Pascatarian and it works well for me and all my digestion issues that I was having completely went away. That's wonderful. Yeah, so you know what? I feel like, you know, I'm not one to preach about one diet work for other than the other. There's so many diets out there
Starting point is 00:24:19 and so many of them work wonderfully. I just think that you need to find something that works best for you. And that you can sustain. You can sustain. Because yeah, because one thing it is, it's a lifestyle and that you need to find something that works best for you. And that you can sustain. And you can sustain. Because one thing it is, it's a lifestyle and if you want to be fit and you want to be healthy for a, because so many people, yo yo, right? They gain weight, they lose weight, they gain weight, they lose weight, because to lose
Starting point is 00:24:37 weight they're not doing something that's sustainable. So you just got to find something that you can do long term, and that works for you. I'm huge on that too, Pays. I love meeting super fit people go, hey, I'm also not a robot. Yes. I eat a cake once a year. I do something, I eat a little spaghetti right now.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Definitely. Because I want people that, some of you listen to this, are competing and want to compete and that's different. Now your asparagus chicken and some tilapia and that's it, that's gonna be your deal. That's great some tilapia and like, that's it, right? That's gonna be your deal. That's great. I was telling him when we were off camera that like,
Starting point is 00:25:09 it's competing is one of the, I'm so glad I did that. You know what I mean? Really, it's, you know, I, everyone should do a show. It just kinda like tests your like inner, you know what I mean? Like strength that you have. So I'm not saying anything bad about competing because I competed and I, I've, like, I mean, you strength that you have. So I'm not saying anything bad about competing because I competed and I,
Starting point is 00:25:26 I like, I mean, you guys are amazing. Same here. But yeah, for me, it's just, it's not a sustainable lifestyle. Isn't it cool though for people watching this that one of the fittest women that is on the circling planet right now is telling you, hey, I have some fun with my food too, right?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Like what a great thing to know, now for an average person watching this. What would you tell them about doing their cardio? You know, I like hit cardio best if you're trying to really tone up. What does that mean? Just high intense interval training, but so you're not doing this like rigorous one hour of cardio.
Starting point is 00:26:03 You're doing, you know, 20 to 30 minutes, hit cardio. Yeah, me too. Yeah. By the way, so if you don't know that, you can Google interval training, because for me, cardio is something I want to get over with. Unfortunately, that's just me, it's not for all of you,
Starting point is 00:26:15 and so if I can get the best bang for my buck, so to speak, it's interval training. So I'm exactly the same way. And for me, I heard you talk about one time before this change, you would move from doing cardio like two hours, six days a week to like a couple days a week, is what you were basically doing, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I was doing that. And you know what, if I, if I need to like dial in for something
Starting point is 00:26:34 like a shoot or something, I'll hop on there and do some, get training or on my leg days, even some upper body days, I'll put in those like plios to make my rest more minimal to, you know, up that high intense training in between my lifts. So I'll do stuff like that. One of the things I like that you do on your website to wanna talk about this for a minute too, is that there's different ways to do your contest or your training for a show, meaning there's all kinds of
Starting point is 00:27:00 and you do this on your site, but you could just do your own contest with you and a transformation for 90 days or 30 days, too, right? It doesn't have to be some bikini show or body building show, but you could say, look, I'm starting a train right now, I'm six feet tall, 240, and I want to transform my body over the next 90 days. You do some stuff through your site, I noticed, like that, too, where you kind of mentor people, they can send you.
Starting point is 00:27:20 We'll talk about that a little bit for the average person listening to this, too. They could do their own contest, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I do that online. It's just that, you know, I know that like a lot of people, you know, going to a trainer can be expensive. Yeah. You're paying 40, 50, 60, 80, $100 a session.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And that can be expensive. So I just do something where it holds more accountability online, where you can like check in and I give a, I even give up prize money just because, I know. Yeah, because 10,000 bucks, because, you know, online training can be super, it's hard to stay accountable, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:55 It's so hard, you don't go into a trainer, you don't check in, you don't like here see me. So I wanted to keep people accountable, and that's, They could do that literally through you if they chose to. You also talk about on your site real quick, different body types too, like not everybody trains
Starting point is 00:28:08 the same way. So can they get some access to help from you on that through your site? Yeah. My site's just paytathroid.com, and you can email me there. You respond to everybody, right? It just blows my mind.
Starting point is 00:28:20 So they can do that through your site, right? They can go to your site and get that kind of information too. So they can email me directly. Okay, right? They can go to your site and get that kind of information too. So. Yeah, they can email me directly. Okay, and you tell me, you respond to a lot of the stuff yourself too, right? Yes, even with Instagram, you know, a lot of people are like, do you comment back to people yourself?
Starting point is 00:28:34 I'm like, yes, I comment back to people or part of people's DMs I tried to. Unbelievable that you do that. Okay, so a few more things. They don't have too much time left. So overall, if someone was to ask you for just in general, I want to get more fit. What would you say to somebody like, here's where I start, this is my general advice to you about getting fit. What would you
Starting point is 00:28:51 tell them? You know, if someone's not like, they don't have a healthy lifestyle or they, you know, they're they're trying their best to get into it, I would just ease into it. You know, I'm a 100% out kind of person, but a lot of people don't have that mentality. So my best piece of advice is, there's take a day at a time. I would, but honestly, I would just take, half the week, eat healthy,
Starting point is 00:29:17 then, and then half the week, live where you're doing. And just every day, take a day out and start implementing that healthy lifestyle. I would just do it like a day at a time because a lot of people, it is really hard for them. So you want to make it a routine, right? Because a routine is what's going to help you stay on track. And a lot of people can't do the cold turkey type of things.
Starting point is 00:29:39 So I would just take it a day at a time, start with one day, start with two days, start with three days, and then make it a lifestyle. Well, I agree a million percent, I'm not as fit as you, but like, I mean, I got 100 percent agreed that has to be something you're going to maintain. It's so sad for me when I'm in the gym in January and it's packed with all these people with their hopes and ambitions and new year's resolutions. And then by like February 1st, it's back to the same people again. Where everyone's gone.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Because what they started to do wasn't sustainable. So I 100,000% agree. And then another thing I want to ask you that you can just talk directly to people, but people that listen to my show are dreamers. They like, they want to do something great in their life. They want to be, they want to have a story like yours and their chosen field, whatever it is, right?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Their chosen dream. And it's rare that they can feel like they're sitting down at lunch with someone who's done it, which is what you have. And so I'd be blowing it if I didn't ask you, if they were sitting here at lunch, they said, look, I have this dream. I want to be a successful business woman
Starting point is 00:30:41 or I want to build my bakery that I have or my online business, whatever it is that they have. What advice would you give someone who's chasing their dream? Like you've chased yours. Yeah, you know, if you remember the story of where I came from, I took me a lot of different paths to finally get to where I am. I would say, just like it takes, you know, you can put in a destination
Starting point is 00:31:06 and maps and you can go 10 different ways to get there, you know. There's 10 different ways to make your dream come alive to be successful and whatever you want to do. If something doesn't work, that doesn't mean your dream is like a no-go. You just got to try something else or try again. was like a no-go. You just got to try something else or try again. Like what I did, I feel like too many people give up too soon. And I could have given up right when the show is working out for me and then I wouldn't be where I am today. I could have given up after the magazine's didn't work out and I wouldn't be where I am today. So if you have a vision, it's there for a reason. If you have this fire inside of you, of something that you really wanna achieve,
Starting point is 00:31:49 it's there for a reason. You just have to figure out how to make it happen. So don't give up. Don't lose hope. Just try something else. Try again. Hage. Like honestly, there's this, there's like,
Starting point is 00:32:03 when you were talking something occurred to me, it's almost like you winning was almost like an inevitable thing. Like you were going to just eventually find a way, right? And I don't know why I've been in the space for 100 years, but like I've never had such a strong sense about that. And I wanna say to everybody that that's what I was feeling when you said it's like, if you don't give up,
Starting point is 00:32:21 if you keep trying different ways, eventually there's a breakthrough. There just is because that dream is in your heart for a reason, I totally agree. So here's the hard question, because I asked you this off camera, it's our last question, but I want people to be thinking about this
Starting point is 00:32:34 and I want you thinking about it as I told you. So what is the future for you? So I asked you that off camera, but I'm curious. Like, you've had a little while to think about it. Now, too, like, like what if I said okay page It's five years from now. Okay. Here's your life, right? Like just some of them right like it's okay There's no wrong answer like what would you probably isn't jumping on this helicopter? That's why I'm bias. Let's wait for that Okay
Starting point is 00:33:02 Just a big answer because you you go by, you time. So, okay, so here we go. So if in five years I could say, hey, Paige, this is your life. Here's some of the things, are you helping 15 million people online now, or what would be the next dream for you? What would it be? Yeah, well obviously I want to continue doing what I'm doing
Starting point is 00:33:23 is inspiring people to live out their best life. We actually talked about this off camera because he asked me, you know, and to be honest with you, I'll just say, you know, what I said, before, you know, seven years ago, I had a dream to be where I am now. Actually not even to be where I am now, but to be just to even make it in the fitness industry
Starting point is 00:33:43 was my dream. I had no idea that I could get this far. now, but to be just to even make it in the fitness industry was my dream. I had no idea that I could get this far, but so I even told him, like, you know, last year I was kind of having that battle within myself trying to figure out like, well, what is the next, what is the next step for me? Because I've had this dream and now I've reached it. So what's next? So yeah, yeah. And what I told you, so that's why I asked you this now too, is like, so I don't want everybody here this.
Starting point is 00:34:09 A lot of you have reached a level where you're like, hey, I kind of got where I thought I'd be, right? And so the one thing is changing your identity, that thermostat we talked about. And then it is seeking out that next association, that next person who stretches you, because one thing I told Page, I said, Page. This thing doesn't stay the way it is. this thing doesn't stay the way it is. Your life won't stay the way it is. You're either growing or dying in life, right? And so in your case, and I want people that are watching this that watch you that know me to hear this too,
Starting point is 00:34:34 like, that's why I wanted you to say it. Yeah, well, I, but you're a leader in this industry, right? And so I think there are millions and millions of people that need to hear your message, not just the getting fit one in all the great videos you produce. But I think I said this with a lot of people that have sat here as well, I put them on my show. You are inspiring.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Like what you have done and who you are is inspiring. So you need to be projecting, how do I get this story out there more? I think the fit part is amazing, but I think what you've accomplished and what you've had to overcome to get through. How do they find you? How do they go interact with you? Which the best places to interact with you? Yeah, well my Instagram is paytap away. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Facebook is the same paytap away. And then if you want to email me, if you have any questions, it's paytap away fit at gmail.com and then my website is paytap away.com. Okay, and there's all kinds of resources on there. She's got all kinds of videos, stuff on, building your brand, building your back, building your arms, like transformation stuff. Like she is the place you should go right now to transform your fitness and transform your life.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Thank you. She's an example of it. So I hope you were inspired today, everybody. Thank you so much, Paige. Thank you for having me. I can show you something. She's so awesome. So hey, everybody, I bring you on this show, some of the most inspiring, successful people
Starting point is 00:35:49 in the world who are maxing out particular areas of their life. This lady's maxing out the fitness space. She's maxing out her life from Oklahoma to out here, and what she's doing. Hopefully it inspired you when you picked up some keys today. If it did, please leave a review on iTunes if you're listening. And I like or a comment on YouTube. I remember this also we do the two-minute drill on Instagram. Every day when I make a post, right? Every day when I make a post. But then the first two minutes, everyone in the comments hashtag maxout. We do a daily drawing. You can win gear for me, coaching with me, introductions to my
Starting point is 00:36:19 guests. We give a special prize away every day. Maybe you'll get introduced to page directly through me too. Very cool. All right, max out everybody. God bless you. This podcast is for those who want to do more. See more and be more. you

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