THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Rise Above It All w/ Dane Cook
Episode Date: October 18, 2022“There is a fine line between Anxiety and Excitement“This interview will rock you.How is it that some people can tell a story in a way that not only holds your ATTENTION but that makes you LAUGH u...ncontrollably?If anyone has the answers, it’s DANE COOK.Because DANE has been doing just that for more than 30 years now through his albums, television appearances and specials, as an actor, and especially as a prolific stand-up comedian.This week, we’re going to pull back that curtain, and Dane is going to reveal his PERSONAL JOURNEY and tell you things you’d never thought you would hear from one of America’s funniest men.One of Dane’s greatest strengths is as a storyteller, and in my opinion, he’s one of the most COMPELLING STORYTELLERS I’ve ever heard. It’s one thing to tell jokes that get a reaction, but quite another to go deep about some part of the human condition and connect with people on a completely different level.The best comedy also rises from PAIN AND ADVERSITY. Dane is no stranger to that either, dealing with a half-brother who defrauded him for almost everything he had. And that only scratches the surface of the hardships that Dane has been through.In fact, so many things piled up in his life that, at one point, Dane almost quit the business. You need to hear how he used that time and those experiences to RETHINK his life and REDEFINE his expectations going forward.Great comedians like Dane also carry around a certain amount of ANXIETY as well. In fact, the fine line between anxiety and EXCITEMENT is where they find the best and most relatable material.We’re also going to talk about the public side of Dane as well.  He’s got a lot to say about building a social media brand (he’s an original and one of the best) and how he deals with CRITICISM and HATE. Listen to Dane’s take on the fine line between locking out those haters and taking in enough so that you can REFLECT and INTERPRET things is gem-mint thinking. We’re also going to talk about the right and wrong ways of TYING IDENTITY TO SUCCESS.You’re going to love a GREAT INTERVIEW with the GREAT DANE this week.  It’s not what you’d expect, and that’s no joke…
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This is the end my let's show.
Hi, welcome back everybody.
I'm fired up.
I'm trying to get this guy on for a couple years and we kind of went back and forth on some
DMs over some time.
I've been a fan of his for a long time, all the way back to the My Space days and he is
just, let's just be real, he's one of the most prolific standups of all time,
which ended up becoming acting and all kinds of other stuff
that he's been successful at.
And then he's got this special out right now called
above it all that you can get at dangcook.com.
And I watch the other night and I'm like,
hey, he's even more brilliant than he was before.
It's hilarious, but it's really inspiring
and motivating at the same time.
To me, that's good art.
It gave me more than one emotion at one time.
It wasn't just giggling and laughing.
It moved me and it made me think.
And so I got a legend sitting across from me.
Dane Cook, welcome to the show.
Well, man, that was like the wind up
and I was holding my breath.
I was like, wow, this is thanks for having me on
and thanks for the flowers, man.
I'm deeply proud of this moment.
Yeah, you should be.
You, what made you, I know you get an asses a lot, but like, just so you guys know, and thanks for the flowers, man. I'm deeply proud of this moment. Yeah. You should be.
You, um, what made you, I know you get an asses a lot,
but like, just so you guys know, you're gonna go watch it.
It's, it's, you're the best storyteller I've ever seen.
Oh, thank you.
No, you are the best storyteller.
And I've never watched like an hour go by with sort of just
a few stories.
Right.
And you like feels sort of like one long bit.
That's exactly what it feels like.
Was that with intent or does, when you put your,
you know, I have a lot of standup friends that kind of say,
I got good 20 minutes right now.
I'm working on the other 20 and I'm working on the hook.
I'm sure.
Was that intentional to go that way?
Yeah, I think a lot of the standup that I loved growing up
was the wrong moments, the off-kilter moments,
the moments that seemingly were like up.
Man, that's the end of that rhythm.
I actually, example, before the tonight show
was foul and growing up, it was Johnny Carson.
He was the foul.
And Johnny Carson could deliver the material,
but when something went clunk, he came to life.
And you saw something happen in the room
and you felt it, that was, you couldn't take your eyes off him
in that moment.
And it was like, can you get back to the laugh? And of course you would. Yeah.
And so I think I always looked at stand up as, I'm never going to be a perfect stand up comedian.
I'm never going to master this. There is no end game to stand up. I'd been a student of it, enough to know.
But if you're a person who evolves their philosophy,
grows up with a generation of fans
and can kind of take the piss out of yourself
and in those Johnny Carson type moments,
reflect on it in real time.
If you get that good,
then I think that's where comedy can be storytelling
and you don't really see the beginning, middle, and end.
Yeah, I also think it takes like tons of,
I'll call it guts since this is a clean show,
but like I speak for a living, right?
So for a living, it's one thing I do.
To go that long on a story means you've got a lot of confidence where you're taking me,
because if it doesn't hit, you've taken eight or ten minutes up of the show that doesn't
hit.
Right.
That takes some real stuff, right?
Sure.
And it takes a lot of time not getting quite to the where the end
point is yeah, there's you know, it's kind of the cul de sac moment once in a while I call it
where you go, well, this is lovely, but where does this go? Right. Right. And so the pieces that you
see if I if I do my job the way I hope I've presented it here is like, I'm going to sandbox each
story. And I'm going to find something that we call on comedy. I'm sure you've heard it here is like, I'm gonna sandbox each story
and I'm gonna find something that we call in comedy.
I'm sure you've heard it from your other comedy buddies
is LPMs, laughs per minute.
And if I can fill a story out and I know where I wanna take you
but I can hit those laughs, it's not a seminar or a monologue,
it's standout.
Oh, very good.
Yeah, what made you do it at your house?
A few reasons.
Well, first and foremost, when I moved in there 12 years ago, I...
It's a baller pad, by the way.
It's a beautiful spot, and it's overlooking, and it's just...
It looks like a treasure trove out there.
It's glistening, and I stood on my porch 12 years ago,
and I went through probably one of the most difficult moments of my life
where I'd been come out of a hardship, a financial hardship.
And I almost didn't even know if I could keep my house. I was in such dire straits.
But I stood on the porch and I was like, not only am I going to work my ass off to my butt off,
sorry, to keep this place, but it feels like a stage up here. And I already had been
formulating the idea and where that came from was
I don't know how it was out here, but East Coast you had somebody stoop you had a weekend night
You had a few drinks and you had neighbors congregating and stories flying and impersonations of each other and next thing
You know, it was like it felt like a little makeshift show on on a front porch
Yeah, and I loved that and I wanted to recreate that you did that out of that
So I want to go there's one of the things I wanted to ask you about.
Just see someone like you, you've had this,
like your voice is tripping me out,
because in the old days when you had like an iPod,
like the thing, when you turn it on,
the same thing would pop up,
your comedy special popped up for like four years ago.
I actually got very sick of you,
because I was like, quick off this guy.
Like I kept carrying your voice in this.
It was like, what was alphabetically one of one of my bits was like the first one that first
Abduction bit or whatever it was like aliens. Yeah, yeah aliens one a lot of people wrote me that said
How the hell do you know cuz it's with an a because people would tell me you're the first thing on my shuffle
I have heard that bit no exaggeration over 3,000 times. I apologize. I know. I know. It's really good
But ain't three thousand times It wasn't worth it.
It wasn't worth that 3,000 plays, but it was a funny bit.
So having you on here, but I also,
I was very much a fan of your work.
And so I know about what you're describing.
So people see the successful life of anybody
that's on my show in the backstory.
Like, we'll get to how you started and what you overcame,
but in the thro throws of your career,
after you've worked your ass off traveling around bust in your tail, someone very close to you.
Yeah. I mean, this is an incredible, incredible amount of adversity and story. So tell them what
happened. I grew up with a half brother in the same household. So felt like just like a brother,
right? And he ended up coming and working for me as my bookkeeper.
So what started off as a young kid,
you know, paying my Chevy Cavalier once a month bill
and maybe like a couple of slices of pizza
that I charged on my Arlington credit card,
turned into something much more lucrative
and unfortunately what I did not know was just changed.
He was, you know, I guess the joke would be like,
was he double dipping and it's like,
what's that times 50?
He was just, you know, he was taking
and it was real nefarious.
And it left me in a place where all those years of 16 years
he'd become an overnight sensation,
not only did it hit the reset button,
but it was like, I have nothing in the till. I'm quite literally, you know, trying to figure out like it
was fascinating because you because I was like, I still have my creativity. I
still have this fan base, but I don't have the monetization to just do whatever I
want in this moment. It was almost like kind of weirdly starting over in the middle of my career.
I called it the Empire Strikes Back,
saga of my life and career, because it got dark.
And it got so, he was incarcerated.
Yeah, he went to prison for eight years.
Did you all just hear that?
Maria Minino is just telling me,
she's driving with you and Bosch.
She's like, oh yeah, my brother's there.
And like you literally drove by where he was.
He was at Middlesex County jail, which I think now is torn down.
It might be a hotel, but at the time, he was, you know, probably peeking out a
little window in that, in that jail in the Husqa.
And that's the time that you're saying you conceived of this vision for what
now I'm seeing in your special or the.
Well, he was with me at the house.
He was with me when I first was buying the house.
And I didn't know that I really didn't have the ability, but he was telling me, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're good. And whatever
he was doing away from the porch that day was like preparing for his getaway as I was
preparing to to buy my dream house, not knowing that I just, yeah, no, I was not solvent
in that moment to be able to do that. Yeah. Because you bring you have a unique, even
when you walk in the room, like you light it up, you have a really special energy, you have a success energy, or whatever
that is. You probably call it charisma. You have that. And it's special. And you know
it when you see it in somebody. But as I dove into you, my admiration for you really grew.
I'm like, this dude has constantly had to overcome all kinds of stuff, all like really heavy stuff. And in the special I was moved by many
things, but your face also changes in the special like I watched it twice and you tell the story about
that Chevy Cavalier by the way I really watched man. I love that car and you you get this gig and
I think it's in Florida. That's right. And it's not paid. And you go, yeah, I'll go do it. And I don't want to tell the whole special away. But I call it a hell gig now. These are the, he's like,
if you like comedy, hell gig stories, then mine was either going to break me or, you know,
it incite me, you know, but everyone listen to this show, everyone, if you listen to my
stuff, you want to do something great with your life.
You're either doing it or you're trying to do it.
And you are gonna have your version of this
maybe multiple times.
Right. And then the crazy thing is
then you may even get there and have it taken like you did.
That's right. But could you?
And not only that, but you may get knocked down
and get up and get knocked down and get up
and then get knocked down and get up.
It's like, it isn't just a metronome rhythm of like, oh, if I take
a knock, sometimes you're going to take a lot of knocks.
A lot of them. And you have taken them. And I always say the difference between winning and
losing is so small in life and sports. We're talking football before we went on here.
It's almost too scary to look at. And you were this close to going. I'm out. Actually,
you did say it.
So for sure.
So you tell them a little version of what happened there
like with the hot dogs and just unbelievable.
Yeah, so I tell this bit about,
it's called the Wrath Scaler.
And if you end up listening to it,
actually, yeah, it's gonna be on Spotify as well too.
So the album will be everywhere.
But I would love for you to see the special
because I think aesthetically what Marty Colner did as my director is absolutely lovely, but the bit is centered
around.
So when you're a comedian on the come up, there's no dental, there's no support, there's
no union, there's no nothing.
And you just take these gigs sometimes that are,
they might be, the middle of nowhere
would make these gigs seem interesting.
You're talking about places that seem like kind of
insignificant, but it matters to get out on the road
and build that fan base.
So I tell the story of a humiliating,
bludgeoning, ego destroying, maybe even ego defining
if we wanted to get into psychology of it all.
Moment very early in my career where I was hired
to do a gig at this place called the Wrath Scheller
from Boston, I drove to Florida.
The story I tell is probably a condensed version
of a 24, 40 hours of my life
where I was really rethinking everything.
Putting it out really in front of me and I'm sure you've had these great
minutia conversations where you're really getting into beyond the nitty gritty.
You're into the plankton of it all and you're going, I do not have what it takes
right now to see this through.
And to relinquish your power on that moment and know it's okay to know I don't have it
all. I don't.
I don't, but maybe from that, I can recognize the pockets, the holes, the voids and start
getting the education and information to fill those things in.
But you need to have it almost like break apart and crack apart and break you in order
to go, oh, yeah, this is life. This is life, identifying that void and going,
I need material in there, not, you know,
comedy, I need stuff in there to, you know,
to, adhesive for the dreams around it to come to fruition.
He basically quits and then like a few minutes later goes,
no, I'm not out.
Don't tell the whole ending.
I want to see it.
But I mean, the thing about I'm kidding, it's not the actual ending.
There's a little bit more after that.
But my dad was an alcoholic and when he got sober, I felt like I got sober.
I said, Daddy, are you never going to drink again?
I can't tell you that.
I'm stuck in a drink for one more day.
And when I was an entrepreneur, it reminds me of the story in the, I am more day. And when I was an entrepreneur, reminds me of the story in the,
I am an entrepreneur,
but when I was struggling,
which I still struggle sometimes,
but when I was really struggling,
I called my dad,
I'm like, I don't have what it takes.
Verbaton, what you just said,
I said the words,
I don't have what it takes.
I'm just not like these other guys.
I'm just, I don't know,
like I, I want it,
but I don't think I want it like they do,
or something missing in me.
I'm gonna quit.
Wow.
And my dad goes, I go, dad, I can't decide.
I just want to do this forever.
My dad goes, well, you don't have to.
He goes, just don't quit for one more day.
I just didn't quit that day.
You know what I mean?
I just didn't quit that day.
And then the next day, the kind of the emotion
started to wear off and my strength came back.
And many, many times I'm like,
I'm just not gonna quit for today.
You needed to be depleted.
You almost needed to run your battery out completely
to feel that feeling.
To have you had that, like in multiple,
you say, like I've heard you say,
like what you just said about the void or like that space,
like that's where you've got all your info.
Right when you've at the end of something in failures
where you've gathered most of your info
that's made you successful.
Yeah, something about being completely annihilated sometimes emotionally, I think where you've gathered most of your influence that made you successful. Yeah, something about being completely annihilated sometimes emotionally,
I think where you come back from that and start to recognize, or for me was,
I don't need to do this the way that I think success is derived from.
I need to do my version of this and take it to where my success will be.
Geez.
And that was definitive in that breakdown
side of the road moment. What I say now and kind of the way I put it together and what I think is
kind of an interesting sound bite is like when you're at your rock bottom, I try to tell people,
don't be so fast to come up for air. Don't get the hell out of there so quick. Take a beat,
look around, accept that you're in this rock bottom moment because there's so much data and failure, there's so much wealth
of information and hitting that lowest moment that when you finally come to the surface,
those are gems that you've brought up with you. And you only get them at your most broken,
down at the bottom moment where you're not just on one knee.
You're down on both trying to figure out like what you end up.
You need it.
You need that.
Thank you.
We could stop right now.
Like thank you for that.
Like, I've had five, I've done about 500 shows.
I've had five people who aren't in what I'd call the self-help motivational field.
Right.
Five that I've said this to.
You should be doing this in addition to what you do. No, no, no, not because you need the money becausehelp motivational field. Right. Five that I've said this too. You should be doing this in addition to what you do.
No, no, not because you need the money because you don't, because you really help humanity
with it.
Let me tell you who they are.
It's interesting.
Jim Rome, the radio broadcasters, you come a dear friend of mine and he's starting to.
Ironically, David Arnold, David A. Arnold who you and I were just talking about who sat
in the seat year in several weeks ago and is no longer with us.
I said that to Leanne Rimes about three hours ago. It was just here. It was one other I'm forgetting and you. I think it's the four and it's you.
And I've thought this about you for years as I've watched you. I've watched you on different things and I've, here's all I know. I'll rewind and listen to you say it again. I've watched you in various different things. I went,
I want to watch, even the special, I didn't, I laughed the whole time, but it's not why I watched it
again. I watched it again because I wanted to be moved by a few of the stories in there.
Right. It's particularly like you're, and it's not just what you said, it's like,
even with you right now, even though this is mainly audio, like your face, when you said your brother,
your face changed, when you said that story, your face changed, when you said that story,
your face changed.
So it's at that place.
The other thing I wanted to ask you about is,
I know you've dealt with anxiety,
and I heard you say something like,
there's a fine line between anxiety and something else.
Right, excited.
Man, I live this.
So I think you say it way better than I can say it,
and I'm the one in this space, so say it.
What is it? Yeah, man, it was better than I can say it, and I'm the one in this space. So say it. What is it?
Yeah, man.
It was a eureka moment in my, I had never done therapy as an adult.
And after my, I'd lost both my parents to cancer within the same year around the time
this stuff happened with your brother to close two years before.
So I lose both my folks and I'm still in.
Sorry, but I'll thank you, man.
Thank you.
Yeah. And I'm still in... Sorry, but... Oh, thank you, man, thank you. Yeah, you know, I was, from that moment I was in like,
running gun moment, probably for a lot of reasons.
I was, I was not ready to accept that, you know,
my mom was my best friend.
So I was like, I was not ready.
I'd grown a great relationship with my father also
out of alcoholism and we finally figured it out.
It took us the last like eight years of his life.
So I lose my folks.
I'm still racing because I'm in this high watermark moment.
Got the stuff that happens with my brother.
Then the career starts to come down off of it.
It's like the echelon.
It's all that's happening at the same time.
And I finally realized, I don't know how to be sad.
My dad was an athlete.
I've got broad shoulders,
but my mom was very phobic and very sensitive.
I got the anxiety.
I got a heart of my sleeve kind of thing.
And all of those things mushed together was like,
I'm a guy that wants to put wind in the wind column, right?
Like the dad.
But I'm mostly like a very sensitive kid.
No instruction to how to grieve.
And to how to accept, like, you made it.
And it's going to hurt because you're you made it and it's going to hurt
because you're going to fall. It's going to be part of that. Sitting across from a therapist one
day and talking about anxiety and how I cope, you know, put the feet on the floor and I,
you know, you rub the top of your legs and you put the tongue on the roof, you mouth and eight seconds
in breathing. I knew all, 17 minutes if I can make it through, you know, I knew all the tricks, the life hacks.
And he said to me, do you ever think that maybe
in one of those moments where you're feeling really scared
that you're actually anticipating?
And I said, almost like there's a fine line
between my anxiety and excitement.
And he said nothing, but when I said it,
it was like meeting myself.
Yeah.
I recognized something in me that was like more apparent than even some of the other things
I'd put on to show people.
Yeah.
And it was in that moment when I walked out of there that I, I subscribed to that and
I started to investigate, hey, you know what, maybe there are times in my life where I'm
not scared, but I'm fooling myself into thinking are times in my life where I'm not scared, but
I'm fooling myself into thinking I am and why is because I think a lot of people and
I'm sure some of your listeners will understand knowing you're going to succeed is scary.
Yeah.
And it's hard to go into what I said on the Bert Christcher podcast.
It's hard to say, I'm gonna win.
It's scary to say that.
It's really putting yourself out there.
But you know, and I know that when you're feeling it,
you have to, you gotta run for the touchdown.
You get like, if you were in sports,
you'd be like, give me the ball.
Yep.
And I don't know why in society,
I think we're in this place where it's not always,
we're not always allowing ourselves to say that person's,
they're in a, they're sparkling.
Yes.
And like, let's let them have it.
Let's let them go.
We don't have to equalize all the time.
Sometimes you feel behind everybody and that's okay
to feel like I can't keep up.
And sometimes you're ahead.
And in anxiety and excitement, I started to learn,
I have to identify if I'm anxious,
I need to be able to tell you and say to you,
hey man, I'm feeling like a little scared today.
I'm feeling like, and be able to do that,
but I also need to be able to say to you,
man, I'm really gung-ho.
Yeah, I'm really feeling it.
And now I can separate those two things.
And it's easier to compartmentalize my reaction
to those things, because I know better who I am from them.
So best thing I've ever heard man like I in my first book. I call them the butterfly moments of life
Yeah, I was I got butterflies when some dude wanted to beat me up on the playground
Right, and I got butterflies. I thought I was gonna hold my fist bug
Yeah, yeah, and I've learned that in those butterfly moments
I've identified them as the butterfly moment is the universe God's way of going something real special could happen right now. And I've actually, like when I go speak, if it's a big
stage, or 15,000 people, I get the butterflies, he's go, I'm scared. I'm scared. Now I go, I think I'm
excited. That's right. But I didn't use the word excited until I saw you say it. Right. But to me,
I call my first book, I call them these butterfly moments. I also don't want to live a life with no
butterfly moments. You're engaged.
Yeah.
It's some point that sounds corny, but she gave you those.
That's right.
Maybe she still does.
In fact, I think sometimes how you know it's the one
is the butterflies continue past the first or second date.
Great identifiers of where you're supposed to be.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
That's so that thing, that anxiety thing that we call anxiety
or fear.
A lot of things with parenting is caught, not taught.
Like I didn't turn out like my dad,
but we do inherit our parents' emotions a lot.
Maybe not their behaviors, maybe not their career,
but we do inherit their emotions.
My dad, till the day he died, he was a stud,
but he would always say, I'm 45 years old.
We have a great conversation.
Hey, be careful.
He would finish every call, every minute,
hey, be careful, be, what the fuck am I being careful
about all the time?
What is, it's embedding in me.
There's lots of things to be afraid of.
Yeah, right.
But you don't do that as a parent intentionally,
but it happens.
So I just think it's like,
that's why I tell you you should be doing this.
It's like, well, you know, and I do.
I mean, it is in my standup.
I mean, part of it like this.
It's like I've figured out a way to like,
not shield a real emotion,
even though there's comedy happening around it.
So there are definitely parts in the performance where,
I like to say now, like, I didn't expect that.
I'll perform something and it's not just all the show.
And I will say, sometimes I'll laugh,
it's something in my joke to that is,
sorry to be laughing, some of the stuff
I'm hearing for the first time as well.
And I like that I'm cultivating
the next incarnation of my standup career
that it's, I'm not there to try to teach,
I'm not, but I am trying to teach you about me.
And if my experiences help you,
then you're laughing and you're also getting
a little bit of that data that I'm talking about.
That's really good.
Yeah, that's really good.
I love that you talk, you know,
it's like when you talk about your dad,
you made me recognize, like thinking about the information
and sometimes the misinformation that, you know,
we get from our parents, you know,
from being, you know, encaved in the household
and in a sponge mode of what we see and what we absorb.
And yet, isn't it?
It's interesting that sometimes, I think maybe as men, and I'm just not trying to narrow
it, but maybe men and women, but I think sometimes as men, like we take those things that
we think are the signs of being a provider or being a...
And with my dad, I was fortunate to have my mom
always in my ear and saying, be the best parts of him.
Remember to be the best parts of him.
And it was a good little nugget that I hope
that I can impart, which is like,
not all of what I am is what you need to be.
If you see, if you identify great traits in part, which is like not all of what I am is what you need to be. If you see, if you identify great traits in me,
give it a shot, those flex might inform you.
But you don't have to be me,
you don't have to be what my life is.
I'm gonna have more fun being able to watch you.
And I don't know, our dads or my dad
really knew how to articulate that.
No, my dad definitely didn't.
But I'd like to think, by the way, I just made me forget about myself.
I actually think I have some of, I'm going to give myself a compliment.
I, I think I took some of my dad's, my dad had great things about him.
I think I did, by the way, everyone listening to this, you know, the key thing in listening
to our show is the application of the information.
So when he says something like he just said that's so beautifully profound and unique, what's
the application for you?
Maybe it's taking the best thing from your children that are struggling right now.
What's the best things about them?
Emphasize those things.
They could build their entire life around those things rather than focusing on their, they're
not good at math and school and you're constantly beating them about their math scores.
Maybe they're exceptional at geography or history or reading or what they're showing you
in that moment. This is not my strength right?
So don't make me have to work that muscle
Let's get to that right let's let's go to my strength like I I was terrible at math
Thank God my what if I just spent my whole life trying to get good at math
It has nothing to do with anything I do for a living right now
Speaking of it. You know what the best advice your dad ever gave you us? Whether it was on purpose or not, does that, does something come to mind?
Yeah, it does.
I know the worst and I know the best.
So the worst was he told me not to go into the business and ultimately made me, you know,
pretty wealthy.
So that was a bad advice.
But this may sound super corny, but my dad taught me to not,
my dad was very liberal and a beautiful part of him was not to ever judge somebody that you
don't know what the cross they're bearing.
So that my dad was that dude that no matter how drunk he got or whatever he did, if there's
a whole, everyone's getting money, if they're homeless, everyone's getting something we
gave there.
I would, I'm not a highly judgmental person because of my dad.
I love all people because of my dad, but when even when someone would misbehave or be rude
or my dad would go, you don't know what they're going through.
You just don't know.
And I've been pretty good at pausing in my life to do that.
What about yours?
Oh boy.
He had a few gems, but I think the one that always stays with me is he once said, well,
he said actually, he said one time, nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd.
In other words, like building up my fan base early on, nothing attracts a crowd like
a crowd.
I think we're walking through like, Fangual Hall and we saw a few people
like getting ready to watch somebody entertain
and maybe do like some acrobatics or any,
he turned to me and said, just remember that.
Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd.
So I took that early on, but he also said something
and I know he didn't intend for this to be as instrumental.
He once said to me, you should do more college gigs
is when I was like
first starting around Boston, those were good pieces. But early college gigs were all in
no money. Like you show up at a cafeteria and you're like, you know, you're like a fodder
for while they're eating their snacks and then you look up and there's a comedian there.
But he said, you should do a lot of college gigs. And I was trying to be a club comic.
I thought that's the cool road. Yeah. And I said, why do you think I should do a lot of college gigs? And he said, I believe the things that you discover in your
college years are the things that you take with you for the rest of your life, and you want
to keep close. In other words, like the happiest memories of maybe what he looked at is maybe
some of the best times of his life in the prime of his life. And to go, oh, wow, if you always
have that group, then you might always be able
to pay the bills because that's a group that will want to grow with you. And so that's
when I started saying, I want to grow up, I want to grow with a generation of comedy fans.
I don't know if I'll take it beyond. I don't know where I'm going to go, but I do know
I want to grow up with this generation of college four years.
You were that intentional about it?
Oh yeah, yeah, I was like, man, at 15, I felt like I was already, I liked, I was watching
Oprah every day with my mom and having deep discussions about like, why are these people
behaving and why that philosophy and the key to comedy, curiosity.
And I was a curious kid.
I was curious about even why I was the way I was and so I always kept that.
The anirimes sitting right here two hours ago and said the key is curiosity wow success leaves clues by the way I watched over to now I have a show that's like that called change my own show yeah same thing mom. Quick plug. Where do I get to an experience? On Nozzie. Okay. Nozzie. Nozzie right now. Thank you.
Excuse me. On Nozzie. Um, speaking of incarnations of you and your intention. So you all know
who Dane Cook is, but you may not know how you know Dane Cook. You were the first, I mean,
like real pioneering on branding, on social, on my space. Was that intentional? And what would you say to someone
who is social brand reliant right now?
Any tips on building one and any warnings about doing one?
I'll tell you the key.
Because this is the key.
The key, the key then and the key now,
even though yes, there's algorithms
and there's maybe corporate entities
and there's trends and there's a lot of malarkey.
What worked for me 20 years ago,
and what I now like to say, it was TikTok 1.0,
which was my space, the first kind of real,
that in Facebook, is as true today,
even though there's a lot of noise and distraction.
And what worked for me 20 years ago
that didn't work for several other comedians
and maybe some musician friends
Was they'd set up a page and they had cool stuff on it, but you have to have soul
Even in the digital realm
You got to have soul you got to figure out how can I put some real heart and soul into this
Static page with some videos or some cool font or whatever however you're
Estetic however you present you can make it look fancy schmancy
But you got to put some truth in there. That's what resonates with people more than anything else
Even if it's absurd truth even if it's like a reverent truth if you're speaking your truth
You will find you're polarizing and that's good because you'll have definitively person on one side to love this
And then you'll definitively have somebody on the other side that can't stop watching you because the truth is an
Aphrodisiac and they want to come in and they want to point counterpoint with the people on that side
You you you want that so if you don't have heart and soul in your in your space
Then you're gonna see the numbers languishing you need that. Okay if you don't have heart and soul in your in your space, then you're going
to see the numbers languishing. You need that.
Okay. Is there a danger in it? In other words, was there a part of you that goes, yeah,
I did it. I mean, you probably would not be dangerous.
Danger is derivative, meaning, meaning don't be derivative. You're going to see something
that works once. And unless you're in the in the business of making one red hat with one green feather.
And that's all you make and that's the aesthetic, then you're going to pigeonhole yourself quick.
And so I think with truth, because truth is ever changing and you're ever changing and
as a person you're ever changing, your experiences, be that in the digital realm.
So good, dude. Allow people in even when it's like,
like, ooh, this is, it's hard to give your power to people.
Like, you know, I know that you've talked about,
like, you give your power to somebody else,
and man, it's terrifying.
Because like, what are you gonna do?
How are you gonna hurt me?
They're inner child in me.
The person that you know, you know I have failed.
You know what broke me in my career.
You could easily hit that switch
and bring a lot of things that make me want to regurgitate.
But because I own all of it,
you can't hurt me with it because I accept my truth.
I accept all the bad things happen to me,
which is the conclusion of in your page,
in your digital presentation,
if you're not derivative, if you can stay present zen,
how whatever you call it, nothing's ever falling apart,
it's only falling together.
Adopt that, keep that and be truthful
and love what you're doing in there
and that's gonna give your page soul.
And if you have soul, people swing through, hang out with you.
Every interview we do when I'm listening to someone talk, I go, okay, that'll be the social media clip
It's like minority report you're editing and seeing I love that man problem is I don't mean to be blown smoke it
You like every damn thing you've said so far would be the clip like I'm serious like every have you always been
You're IQ this high have you always been this I don't what my IQ is. I just know that I am a passionate person
and sometimes I ramble, but my curiosity has led
to some definitive understanding at now 50 years old.
I want to just be straight up, no nonsense, 24-7.
Do you got me on a good day?
Yeah, I came in here feeling like, downtrodden.
Yeah, I say, man, I need some pick me up today.
Yeah, maybe you have the advice that I don't have,
but like I'm gonna listen more than I am gonna jab her.
Yeah, well, I'm glad that I,
well, I would take you on either day, brother,
and I'm here for you on those days, by the way.
I mean that too.
I, you're moving me.
So speaking of that, like opening yourself up to criticism,
this man became hated to some extent. And even by peers that were jealous,
you know, I've had, I won't, I've had mutual friends of ours tell me, you know what, I feel
bad. I didn't like that dude for years. And then I got to know him. He's a wonderful guy.
Right. Right. You know what I'm saying? I've had those. But like you, you moved so far in front
of the line. So there's all these dudes that went that putting,
it was off putting, well people went
to traditional whatever that was
and you found a path that was yours.
Everything you just said you did.
That's why it's so powerful.
What he just described, he did.
The thing he said earlier about success
being looking one way, this is the success my way.
So he found his way and he just went,
boom he's filling a rena's up and there's these guys that are great comics, but they're still
doing the clubs for 150 people. And you, you took a lot of criticism, right? And even in
your special, I don't want to blow it, but you even say, I don't, I shouldn't Google myself.
Right. So how, how did it impact you then and how should someone deal
with criticism hate those things?
You have a master class on it.
Man, how did I deal with it then?
Oh boy.
Oh man.
It was, there was a lot of pain
because I just wanted acceptance.
I was still the kid who,
you know, I told you I was like running, running, running,
like success had me like on a tear. And then after a little bit, I remember exactly what the moment was
or realizing, oh my goodness, like, I'm more that kid than I ever was before and all this
success and all the adulation and all the good stuff that comes with it. You know, nothing
was ever going to fill the void. Larry Moss is a great acting instructor. I had an opportunity to have a seminar with him one up private one-on-one and he said something that was just so prolific he said um he said talk to me a little bit about the void the the whole that you feel inside of you and I first I was kind of like you know I didn't expect that we're gonna go there in an acting seminar and I said I don I don't really know what you mean. And he kept on me, kept on me.
And they finally said,
you know, that emptiness that you feel,
that you take with you from when you're a kid.
He said, what would happen if you stopped trying
to cover it with things?
What would happen if you stopped trying to keep it behind you?
And what would happen if you showed people that void?
What would happen?
And I went on stage that night and I started,
I started the show in a way that I never had,
which was I'm gonna tell people at the very beginning
when I greet everybody how I truly feel.
Again, that thing about soul and truthfulness
because then the rest of the act is gonna take on
a different vibe because now you know when I said,
hey everybody, I hope you're having a good night
I'm having a rough day and I could get into it like whether I did or didn't I'm starting with an instant moment of truth
Yeah, I'm not putting on a facade. Yeah, it's not show me that I'm telling you something real and I think from
From that moment when backlash started to happen my initial feeling initial feeling was in such pain because I wanted
the acceptance and I think I thought that show business or specifically comedy was going
to be like athletics. You know, athleticism, my dad was, you know, into so many sports
and I thought when you win, maybe it's going to feel like you win for everybody. And I thought
I was winning for everybody. I thought when broke down that that digital realm. Yeah, I was I would that I would say
Hey, I know um, you know, I was kind of a geek to be sitting at home doing all this stuff toiling on the internet
But hey, I think I broke the code to help all of us. Yeah
And it wasn't received that way it was received from a lot of people in hindsight who would share with me like man
I'd be on the road and all morning DJ's would say is like, why don't you be like Dean Cook?
And it was me saying, like, don't try to be my success when I was saying, like, you know,
you realize your success isn't the path that you think you need to be on. It's taking that and
making a unique path. Well, I was that unique path that other people were being told, do what he's doing.
And that didn't sit well with a lot of people.
Didn't, brother.
Did you did it affect your confidence?
Not on stage.
I'm a pressure player.
What does that mean?
That means that the one place, even from the very beginning as a kid who felt so
very insignificant and empty and was real hard on myself.
kid who felt so very insignificant and empty and was real hard on myself.
Something when I got on stage was like, just it felt like I'm in real time. When everywhere else I feel like very out of sorts and very kind of lonely or a wall flower
or no timing. And I think I got that from my dad. Athleticism. ready for the ball. Give me the ball and in that moment,
and it was the one place that I didn't break my confidence,
but in my personal life,
I went through a real,
a real topsy-turvy time, not feeling like,
oh, I mean, I thought by breaking through,
I would bring all the kids in the school yard to love me.
I think that when you're on stage
or you're doing something you're called to do or great at,
it's a moment of like full presence
and you don't have the luxury of worrying
about all these external things.
It's like what I'm speaking on stage,
like you have to be fully present when you're there.
Right.
And I think somehow the other stuff,
all my insecurity sort of disappear in those moments.
Yet the minute I walk off, like the minute I walk off, how did I do?
How did I do? I'm back to being that kid again. Love me. Tell me I did well. Was that okay?
Where did I screw up? I don't know. Do you do that when you get off stage? I'm very insecure
when I'm finished. When I step off stage, almost immediately, my heart rate starts to decrease.
I have a really good resting heart rate, by the way, it's like 65 all the time
It's good and I step off stage and by the time I get from the stay
I eat this is like this even in arenas by the time I'd get for off stage 20,000 people and
Was in my dressing room my tea was ready with a little honey
And I'm very chill and I'm zen because I know it's like I'm back to being that
regular
Human being I never chased the party after I never needed that adulation after the show
Never I used to watch you thinking this dude so good looking every walks when Dane walks out
It's like whoo, it was crazy crazy, and I'm like a lot of women and a lot of like this
Attention is going
Yeah, and a lot of women and a lot of like this. The attention is going ballistic.
That was not true.
Well, I was probably having at it in the after party
with my friends, but as far as like,
I never needed the edge of the stage.
The high of the stage is something that I know
is only in one place and I don't try to look for it
or find it anywhere else and it's just right there.
Okay, if I'm pursuing a dream,
I'm listening to Dane Cook-Ren,
as someone who achieves his dream, right?
And I ask a lot of people,
this by the way, everyone listening,
are you starting to see a theme
with successful people that are on the show all the time?
Would you hear what he just said about?
There's this void I'm trying to fill,
there's these insecure, have you,
are you seeing a theme here?
Here's a theme, there you.
They sound a lot like you, don't they,
when you get them behind a microphone,
and they're not on stage,
and they're in an environment where they can tell the truth,
they've had adversity, they've had haters,
they've had setbacks, they've had insecurities,
they've had strange upbringing,
they've had people around them hurt them.
They deal with the emotions you deal with,
the fear and anxiety.
Isn't this interesting, very you?
And the reason it's so important that you accept that is because if they were super human
That would give you a cop out to not making your dream come true
But because now you know they're just like you
There's no excuse for you not to make your dream come true. That's why like
Some of this hero worship stuff that you get when you go out or I get I it's enjoyable to feel but there's a part of me
It's like I'm not any different than you.
And I don't want you to think it
because that gives you an excuse not to win.
Now, what I'm wondering about you is,
by the way, I said nothing because that's the clip
from the show, dude.
No, that was like, yeah, man, that was it right there.
I don't want that for people.
No, I'm curious though.
You caught your dream.
Be honest about this, please.
I know you've been honest the whole time,
but like this is a hard one to be honest about.
Was it, or is it, what you thought it would be
and or slash worth it?
It's what I thought it would be
where in the rare, air moments of success
when you see something hit that like plateau
that you're like, man, this is exceeding my expectations.
And I always set high expectations.
Where it meets it for me is how you can give back
when you have that light on you is awesome.
And my favorite part of fame when I'm in a moment
where it's like, the, you know, the ebvers the flow is when I feel important, I get to make other people feel
important. And to be able to like, for example, like when I first broke through and I
could do stuff with Boston Children's Hospital, a place that I was when I was four
years old, they helped me through some stuff. And to be able to go like, oh, now I
get to take some of that light and illuminate over there. That's the best part.
When you're not in a famous moment
and you're not getting in one of those things for me,
where I go to is not like, oh, I'm not in Vogue,
where I go to is like, I feel like if I make it better
right now, I could help more people.
And so that's always a driving factor for me.
So when I met fame, yes, all the fun and the cool factor
in like rubbing elbows with my heroes and the cool factor in like,
you know, rubbing elbows with my heroes
and most of them being cool,
I don't think I met too many people that like,
so for a number of reasons I can say definitively,
like if when you're charging towards success,
when you get there, a lot of what you hope for it to be
can and will be there.
Then there's some prickly parts
and there's some bad contracts and stuff that in business
are gonna be like a little bit of like a
Pupu moment, but for the most part love the the experience of being kind of in that inner circle. Okay, and you what about tying your identity to it?
Meaning inevitably there's peaks and plateaus and valleys and everything in life
There's you're we're gonna tell you relationship in a minute if you don't mind for a second, but in relation
I've been in a long relationship. There's peaks and valleys and burritos in careers,
in money, in notoriety and these other things. And I think it's how you deal oftentimes with the
valleys of your life that really will probably determine the quality of it. Sure. And so you have
this meteoric rise like anything. At some point, it's
not going to continue to go on an upward trajectory. Right. Right. Right. Right.
Right. Right. Where someone else gets that ride. True. And you're there. But maybe not
like we were there before. What was that experience? Like I asked Sebastian because he's on that.
Right. I said to him, actually, on the show, I said, are you afraid it's going to go? He
goes, yeah, I'm afraid it's going to go away. And of course, he works his ass off to make sure that it doesn't, but in his case,
and he would be the first one to say, there will be a point where it's not quite what it is.
The zeitgeist moves on. And yeah, there's like, you're always going to have your ability
to create probably something new and exceptional, but like what it was will not remain.
But it could be even better though, right? I think you're working it. I think it should be and it always will be if you're putting
yourself in the right place.
Maybe it's because I'm a different age, but your work impacts me on more levels now
than just laughing before.
Right.
So, but what about this notion of, I think a lot of people tie their identity just the
external.
I'm a mother.
And so if their son hits three home runs in a game, they're real happy and proud.
But if he's over three or getting decent school, they're not. Or I'm a, I, they're money or they're fame or their career or
their body or their looks, right? Or, and there's a danger, I think, in that. So did you have
to, did you, did you have a little of that? And did you have to find your identity? And
I know you see it. Yeah. And in, in Hollywood, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, there's a lot.
There's mainly their identity is tied to their notoriety or career. There was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that hear a lot, like, there's a lot. There's mainly their identity is tied to their notoriety or career.
There was, yeah, there was, again, with no playbook and there's nobody like, hi, I'm your
liaison to fame, I'm going to help you, I'm going to help you work through like the columns
that you want to, you know, keep strong and the things that, you know, you know, are somewhat
fabricated or maybe you're not ready so you can tell you make it.
I was, again, fortunate, maybe had a great angel on my shoulder.
When I first was putting myself out there on social media and seeing that it was working,
I changed the banner of my first DaneCook.com page, which is still up today and by the way,
above it all is on there.
The first banner I created like a little HTML code banner
it said, it said, if you're interested in my comedy
in career, I said, please don't follow me
if you're not a fan of risks
because I plan on taking a lot of them.
And I gave myself permission right there
to change and evolve and not be Johnny Bravo
and put on the same facade or jacket.
And I knew that also meant, oh wow, you know,
I'm letting people know that they're gonna be able
to call me out on that moment and be like,
oh, you're changing, you're different now.
And I did get a lot of that.
And you know what, I wouldn't,
I wouldn't have done it any other way
It's probably the best thing I could have done because where I didn't have the education of truly who I was or
What it meant to be not in the public eye again full circle back to like who I really was that at least prepared me to go like
Nobody's ever gonna be able to say I'm a phony
Yeah, because even though I wasn't always ready for moments and even though I was like a rag tag sometimes, what you see is what you get.
It was the Johnny Carson.
In between the jokes, you got to know who I really was.
And I'm proud that I got to do that.
And I would tell your listeners like, if there's one thing that you want to always rely on
is that you're going to look in the mirror every single morning.
And that's the judge jury.
That's that all the intel and information is already right there.
Your whole day isn't the look you give yourself.
You brush your teeth. You look away.
I used to.
I'd look away once in a while.
Just said that two hours ago.
Really?
Yeah.
Do you get up?
Do you do you smile?
Be just for the sake of being awake and alive.
I do, you know, remind myself,
gotta stay grateful, gotta have gratitude.
I'm a welfare kid out of Boston,
I've had something, nothing, nothing again, something,
it may be again, but the prospect of your day
is delivered to you right in that moment
of looking yourself in the mirror.
That's it.
So start with some affirmations,
or I still do, I learned it,
I never had to go to A, personally, I've never had to drink in my life, but I went. I attend a lot of
meetings. I love them. There's a lot of truth in that room. There's a lot of brave people in those
rooms. Grant me this serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things
that I can and the wisdom to know the difference between them. I say it every day.
Start your day off with that.
I'm just looking at you like what in the bro, you're remarkable. Oh man, you don't, you're very, you're not great at that by the way. I'm watching you a couple times. You're remarkable.
Like as a man, you're obviously very talented. You're very funny, you're remarkable. Like as a man, you're obviously very talented,
you're very funny, you're remarkable.
Like, you're literally right now, you're a performer
and you are sitting here changing millions of lives potentially.
Oh man, I just wanna make people feel good.
Yeah, you, yeah.
And sometimes like, I know the feeling of not being able
to breathe because you're like, I'm trapped.
I'm trapped in this life where I don't know what my path is and I know the feeling of not being able to breathe because you're like, I'm trapped. I'm trapped in this life where I don't know what my path is.
And I know that feeling.
And hopefully somebody can hear this and be like,
I'm not trapped.
I believe that the obstacles and the hurdles in our life
are they're not there because you ran into them.
I believe you went towards them
because you know that's the exact thing
you need to break down and get past.
It's so good.
I really believe that.
And you know, I got to shout out my mom
because we've talked a lot about my dad,
but I really want to say something
that a moment that resonated me.
My mom took me to CET when I was a kid.
It was at Christmas time that ET came out.
Took me to FreshPond Movie Theater.
Yes.
Over uproot too, you know, Plains and Gears.
Yes.
Took me over there.
And we went Christmas shopping
and she had like Christmas gifts for me and for us that she hid in the bags and put in the trunk and then we went inside ET
and I loved it. I was like
I was just mesmerized by this movie, right? Yeah, of course. We all were but I didn't know what I was going into and the music and the story and Elliot and this whole thing and
I didn't know what I was going into and the music and the story and Elliott and this whole thing.
And we left the theater and I wanted to talk about the movie because I was just so lost
in it.
And we sat, even though it was winter, we sat for a little and our bundled up coats outside
on the stoop.
And I remember it.
I remember it.
I can see it.
I can see how cold we were, but I was just you know, just on a little tangent and we sat,
and it was even a little wet from the melted snow,
but we sat there and choose answering questions.
I was like, where is that place?
Who made that and spilled,
and all these things I'm asking,
and she's trying to help me to like,
well, it's them, you know, they make the movie
and they do this and, you know, you gotta write it,
there's a writer.
Well, we get up from this moment where I'm so filled
with magic.
Yeah.
And we walked over and the car had been stolen with all the Christmas gifts in it.
My mom with her phobia went into a full blown one of the scariest she had spent all the money
that we didn't have on these on Christmas and then to take me to the movie.
And she went into like a fit and not in the funny way,
like a fit.
And we went from this thing of like enchanting
entertainment to who like being so sad and broken
and it happened like that.
It went from that moment and 10 steps later.
And I think that defines everything that even today.
I think everything in that moment was like,
that's life, fun, funny, scary, sad, tragedy.
And then she made a joke on the way home.
Somebody finally picked us up and she said something funny
and she's, I hope that jacket wasn't their size
whoever stole it.
She said something and we she's, I hope that jacket wasn't their size whoever stole it. She said something and we laughed and, and man, it's like from my mom, that's all I ever
wanted to get to in my career is a place where I could go.
Man, I hope I can just give information in a way that's either useful or funny.
Gosh.
And that's kind of, that's the guy that's sitting here right now.
Can I be useful and funny?
And that, that tells the kid inside me with the little void and the,
yeah, that's it.
That makes me feel like, oh wow, I can have moments where,
little flex of my day where I feel like, of purpose.
Yeah, can I answer it for you?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I'm feeling it.
You're, like, the synergy that we're creating here,
I feel like people are listening going,
I'd like to be a part of that kind of thing.
It's insane.
I think I can.
You, yeah, it's insane.
You're the best storyteller, dude.
You're the, yeah.
There's a special in you, no pun intended,
that which we'll talk about last, but like,
you're entering, I love watching someone step into like,
their next level.
Yeah, that's what you're doing.
Yeah, I know, I'm feeling it.
You feel it.
I feel good, man.
You're stepping in.
I'm the happiest and healthiest I've ever been,
even when I look back on that kid in 0405.
There's a lot missing, a lot lacking.
And I'm happening now, be celebrating those fans
of, again, growing up with it.
Now their kids, their families are enjoying this new special.
And I'm almost enjoying that period of time.
Now, not with haters and all the ambivalence,
even though there's always a level of narrative,
but the reality is I get to look back on that era fondly.
And now I get to enter into this era smartly.
Yeah, you know.
There's a convergence of your talents and gifts
with your life experience that are converging right now
I think so that's what's happening feels and and as there's a there's a
Part of your spirit that was always there that was gonna be receiving this that was preparing for this time
It's like really obvious to me. It's kind of like I'm watching you. You watch my face a couple times my
Three-bon audio would know but I can feel my sort of my jaw drop a couple times here one of that I want to ask you a business question a couple of times my free bond audio would know, but I can feel my sort of my jaw drop a couple of times here.
One of that, I wanna ask you a business question,
a couple of things last.
Are you betting on yourself in this special?
Meaning it's not streamed traditionally
where it normally would be.
So, did you make a bet on you here,
or how did this all work?
Because this is another thing that would speak
an awful lot to your vision, your courage.
I was watching you go, I think this is a bet maybe with some partners, but this is a bet.
This is you.
Yeah, he betten on himself here on this special.
So tell him what that means and how that works.
Because this is also another element of your vision because there's a few of you now that
are like, you know what?
I am putting it over there.
Right.
Maybe they do or don't want me, but either way, I'm going out on me here, so explain what you're doing here.
Yeah, whether they do it or don't want me,
I didn't even enter into those meetings.
Well, in your case, they don't want you, but some guys.
Well, not everybody.
I mean, there's definitely like, hey, listen,
this is, there's always clicks.
And there's always places that you think,
oh, I'm gonna have access and they're like,
nah, we're good.
Okay.
And then there's other places that are like
dying to have your business,
but for me, it wasn't even about entertaining those.
It was about probably based on a lot of what I told you when I first moved into that house.
I felt like I'm in a position now. I've earned back the ability to gamble on myself.
And so I invested my own money and I didn't do it halfway.
If you watch this special, you're going to see drone shots.
You're going to see the guys who liked the Super Bowl
half-time show came and looked like,
makes my house look like a little red rocks,
a little amphitheater.
Exactly, looks like.
It's beautiful.
And so the whole goal here was to,
I've always liked to be a little bit
of a disruptor in business.
Yeah, I have.
Because I don't like the way, especially young artists get stuck in contracts and their
IP becomes shared IP, which then really isn't.
It's not there.
It's not IP anymore.
Right.
It's something.
It's a hybrid.
And unfortunately, in a lot of those situations, there's a big contract.
And the first three pages are for you. And then there's like 50 others that are for them.
And so what does that really mean in the long short?
It means you spend a lot of time and more money kind of chasing your own residuals that
you've earned from what you've created.
And I don't do that anymore.
I did it independently.
I partnered up with moment.co, scooter bronze investment.
Basically, what he wanted to do is create a modern pay-per-view,
but for internet.
You can click on it.
You don't need to subscribe to a streamer for a year.
You can buy my special, enjoy it.
And then at the end of that run that I have with moment,
that contract ends.
Everything reverts to me.
And I get all the data, which the streamers will not tell you
I want to know regions. I want to know analytics. I want to know gender. I want to know I want to know demo
I want I want all that that helps me to understand my fan base
In fact, you'll wait years to get your
Residuals and why does that happen to a lot of people that are not the chappelle and are not the sagoras
and at the highest level?
Well, they get like a brinkstruck
or something backed up for them.
But everybody else is dealing with waiting for residuals
that they may never get, and why are you waiting?
It's because it's in the streamers bank account
and guess who's getting the interest off that's right.
Okay, right.
So for all those reasons, I say no.
Good for you brother. And I've put out something that I think is the best of me's right. Okay, right. So for all those reasons, I say no. Good for you brother.
And I've put out something that I think is the best of me
and I'm taking a gamble, I'm taking a chance
and I'm hoping that people like yourself see my spirit
and are just very entertained
because then I'll recoup and if I recoup,
I get to drum roll, invest in the next thing
that I wanna do my way, hopefully bring people
something else that's pretty cool.
So you guys gotta hear that, right?
It's above-it-all, stayingcook.com,
and let me tell you guys something.
It is, it's unbelievable.
And by the way, for you entrepreneurs,
you already just said, he just bet on himself.
And it's really rare in this space that anyone's doing.
There's like a handful of you
that are trying to do this right now.
And in Danes case, let me just say this
because he won't say it to you.
Number one, you feel like you only watch like 20 minutes because it flies by. It's
an hour, but it's so good. Like I found myself like, I actually wish it was longer. That's
not a criticism. It just, that's how art should do, right? But like it, it's that good,
right? So there's no, no laws. Number one, number two, it's cutting edge. So it's visually
stimulating too. It's not, you're edge. So it's visually stimulating too.
It's not, you're not just watching it do.
The drone shots, I want to give it away.
I just want people to see it.
The drone shots, the staging, the lighting,
even the little flick to your producer
in the control room where you could see it.
Like every little arti-comer.
Yeah, every little thing you did there, brother.
I'm like, this is genius.
So while somebody had said, I'm glad you brought up Marty
because I do cut to Marty in the, in the sound booth.
And the reason, somebody said, you can't do that in a comedy special.
I said, I don't want this to just feel like a comedy special.
I want this to feel like maybe this is what a comedy special can be.
You know, this felt like an award show where they cut to the booth and there's the director directing the show.
And I'm on the screen behind him as Marty's like cheering.
It really feels like I got to share, I got to put the legendary Marty callner on camera.
And he managed to put me in the background on the TV.
So I'm never not on for you.
Right. You are there.
You're right.
It was a happy accident.
I'm like over his shoulder.
We're having, we're having a lot of fun with this and you can, it comes through.
Well guys, there's several million of you.
Go support it.
Go see this.
Yes.
It's, it's real guys. It's like, I, I'm just, I, it's why Danes here. It's like he's, he's obviously several million of you. Go support it. Go see this. It's real guys. It's like, I'm just, I, it's why.
Danes here.
He's obviously here to serve you.
He served you for the last hour.
If you go see this, you're serving him,
but you're really serving your family
because you're gonna laugh
and there's nothing in the content that I wish we could get
into it because there's just some lessons
even with the stalker story,
but we're not gonna go there right now.
The last thing I wanna say, I wanna ask you about,
because you did say it's the happiest you've ever been, you're in a relationship.
The other thing you do, I don't know if you want to do it, but you're in love.
But you poke fun at yourself, too, dude.
Well, every comic has to, you know, relationship humor is always in there.
And I've always had, you know, so much relationship stuff, good and bad
in my routines. And I thought, I need to talk about love. I need to talk about this
relationship. I think the hardest I left is the part where you said, and if you want to
tell a joke here, you know, because my girl, just so we understand, you'll call my girl
from my fiance. We have an age difference. There's an age difference. Yeah. Where have
you been all my?
I don't know, don't give way to the fight side.
Yeah, you know, that's one of my favorite parts of the whole show.
It's, I talk about Kelsey and I, and by the way,
a lot of those jokes, the great thing about being with Kelsey
is, because people go like, do she like these jokes?
I go, like these jokes, you should hear the jokes
that she makes.
She has a savage sense of humor.
And she's, you know, I knew she was the one.
And we're, I mean, it sounds goopy,
but I'm just so happy, man, in my life.
Something I always wanted to contribute to the other side,
which I felt like I'd, I got to visit a lot of rare air
in my life, and I'm grateful,
but I never really felt like I had that right relationship
that I'm like, this is something that I can put into my home life that feels as gratifying
just for me and this other person.
So I'm there.
You deserve it.
Thanks, man.
And you've made a lot of other people happy in your life and you deserve to be happy, brother.
Thanks, bud.
Thank you for doing this.
Oh, man, I hope that's a part to it.
This was really good.
I would love to part to it.
Yeah.
This was really.
We'll do it again in a couple months once it's been out for a bit and like we'll get some real great, you know, feedback from people like let's
see how it moved people. Okay. Guys, go support it. Go get above it all. DaneCook.com. And
by the way, well, you're doing to go grab the power of one more of my book. Go to Nozzy,
see Change or the Ed My Let and support that show as well. You guys go follow Dane as well.
You can tell you're going to get not just laughing, but you're going to get life strategy
and something that will move you as well. Everybody, thank you, Dane as well. You can tell you're gonna get not just laughing, but you're gonna get life strategy and something that will move you as well.
Everybody, thank you, Dane, thank you.
Ed, grateful for you.
Thank you.
Share this with everybody guys.
God bless you, max out.
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