THE ED MYLETT SHOW - SEBASTIAN MANISCALCO: How To Do The Hard Things

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

HEART meets HUMOR in this EXPLOSIVE new episode with my good friend, SEBASTIAN MANISCALCO! Sebastian is a master of comedy who went from waiting tables to captivating audiences nationwide as a comedian, actor and now preparing to light up the stage yet again with his 2024 tour. This episode transcends the boundaries of comedy. It’s about more than just making people laugh; it’s about the silent victories, the lessons learned in the pursuit of balance, and the legacy we hope to leave for our children. In our raw conversation, we get real about: The significance of fatherhood in our lives and the ongoing journey to find the right BALANCE every parent yearns for. The evolution and impact of comedy in Sebastian’s career, exploring how stand-up has shaped his path and why maintaining a HIGHER STANDARD is crucial for staying at the top. The surreal experience of working alongside icons like ROBERT DeNIRO How much is enough, now and in the future? Reflections on SUCCESS – does the reality lives up to the dream? The process of maintaining career MOMENTUM and RELEVANCY Tune in for an episode filled with laughter, learning, and a lot of heart, as we explore the depths of success, creativity, and the unbreakable bond of family. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the admire the show. Hi, welcome back to the show, everybody. Got a friend sitting next to me here today who I am really glad he's here. He is one of the busiest people in all the entertainment industry right now He's got this show that just got hooked up for a new season called bookie, which is awesome He's got Netflix specials all over the place. You guys have already seen him on Netflix almost all of you Movie last year came out about my father that I loved that was a really successful project for him He's just got all kinds of stuff going on

But he's got a tour coming up called It Ain't Right in 2024. Biggest tour he's got. So you can go to all his social media, his website to get his stuff. Sebastian Maniscalco, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me back. I think the last time I did this had to be about four or five years ago. Four or five years ago. The UTA offices and reflecting back on that experience. I didn't know who you were. I didn't, you know, I just didn. I just wasn't aware of you.

I saw clips and whatnot, and then you wanted me to do your podcast. Which then I started looking into who you were and whatnot. Oh, this guy's, this guy knows what he's doing and whatnot. But I feel bad that you came out to where I was at UTA. You did. Because I noticed a lot of you. Most people come to the studio. But you came to me and I was reflecting back on that.

I'm like, oh, I probably should have went out to you. But at the time, I was just like, oh, this is like, yeah. Who was this guy at the time? The hike and whatnot. But I'm glad you asked me back. Yeah. And it's nice to be here.

And that's this new setting. Yeah. Well, it's a temporary setting. But yeah, it's good to have you and it's this new setting. Yeah. Well, it's a temporary setting, but yeah, it's good to have you back. And I've done his show. He's got a couple of different podcasts too. The Daddy and Doctor. The Daddy vs. Doctor and the Pete and Sebastian.

This guy's busy. He's doing everything. Well, you did Daddy vs. Doctor and you had a clip on there where you got emotional. Yeah. And I put that up. And of course, you know, everybody really related to what you were saying in regards to your family and how they're the most important except your dad

That's just the tippity iceberg with him. He's really He's my biggest critic. He's we have a lot of Discussions of even this tour that I'm doing, he's like, you got new material, right? You know, like, so he's constantly on me. I was going to ask you that. One of my questions later in the interview, but we've got to know each other well just so you guys know since that thing four years ago.

And so I feel like I know you pretty well now. Like, does it matter? I mean, it's funny with you and your dad, but you love this dude and you're close with your dad. You have a very unique thing with him. Do you think he's proud of you? And do you, is it matter to you? I was one of the things I was going to ask you later, but since we brought up your dad, who doesn't like my stuff, like, is he proud of you, do you think? Yeah, he's told me he's proud of me, but he doesn't want me to kind of rest on my success. It's easy to reach a certain level, I think, for some people, and then, like, all right,

I'm gonna stop writing material. I'm gonna kind of coast on what I have. And he's always trying to instill in me, not that I don't have it already, but just being a parent. You've got to do better than the next time or you need your material needs to be as equal to or greater To what you've done the last time or people not gonna come back And he's also worried about you know people are spending a lot of money to come and see you and You have to deliver a premium product for them

Because like the performance is a commercial for them to come back the next time Okay, but in a business sense. I love doing comedy regardless But when you go out there you hope to knock them dead so bad where they go and tell ten people You got to come and see this guy how much percentage at the time. Do you do that? Where you go? I knocked it out. You're done that night. You go. Yep. I Feel like I really never knock it out I was always something in the act that I could have done better or there was a moment in the act where I'm like I was too angry there or whatnot. Yes, I walk off stage sometimes saying oh, yeah, that was really show

But I always think there is Improvement in the show sometimes I get a little bored with the material. You know, I'm sure you go through this. You're saying the same thing. Yes. And you got to make it sound like it's the first time you're saying it. Yeah. A new group of people. So for me, I start when I first got a new bit, I'm like, Oh, I love doing this. I love doing this. Love. And then it starts to kind of wane. Yep. And the objective for standup is to kind of have the material sewed down, but still so fresh and then shoot your special rather than have it, you know, go a while. It's too stale.

Yeah, it becomes too stale. I think that's what happened with my last special. Not that I was so disappointed about it, but what happened was I was supposed to shoot that special kind of COVID air, like when COVID started. And then I picked up the material after COVID and then shot the special. So it kind of sat but it went too long. And we were talking about this prior to even jumping on here that talking about pain, we were talking about back pain. I'm talking about sciatic pain

I had sciatic pain ripping through my right leg really really bad And it was hard to be as physical as I normally am and I was in a tuxedo and these aren't excuses You know, I think also I'm trying something new. You know, I tried something new. I'm like, oh, let me yeah Let me try and bring Back to the rat pack. Sinatra days. Sinatra days performing a tuxedo, have the audience performing their dress like they were in the 60s or 50s or whatever it was. So anytime, you know, you

kind of go outside your comfort zone, you know, it could, it could really win, you could really lose. I'm not reflecting back on the special. I'm not mad that I did it that way. The only thing I regret was I probably shouldn't have worn a tuxedo because I never wear a tuxedo while performing and it's very restrictive. And number two, that I was in pain while doing it. Yeah. You know, you're in the mindset you guys when you're listening to him. The one thing about Sebastian is, and other comedians have mentioned this to me too, he's a pretty serious dude in real life.

Pretty serious, pretty intense, I'd say introverted, so I would describe you. Is that all accurate, would you say? Yeah. I mean, introverted in the sense where I'm not like life of the party. No. I don't. You know'm not like life of the party. No. I don't. You know, I come out of these podcasts. I just did kind of a podcast, golf podcast yesterday.

And you got to treat them almost as performances. Yeah. You know, you can't be like sitting here like a dud. Right. You know, not that I'm going to make you die laughing during this, but I actually enjoy sitting down with someone and not being funny. Yeah, I know you do.

I don't feel like this world I'm living in right now is, I don't really have to make you laugh or the audience laugh. It's not that type of show, but the show yesterday, they were looking for entertainment. So it's work. Yeah, you gotta come. You drained after?

Not drained, but to be funny and not make it's work. Yeah, you gotta come. You gotta come. You drained after? Not drained, but you know, to be funny and not make it be forced is a little difficult because you know, you want to make it as organic as possible. You don't want to be doing like trying to be doing bits or always trying to make me laugh or whatnot. Yeah. And you're not like a sticky, like, like slappy in the back guy. That's not your thing. No.

But what you're saying earlier though about what I said, like the mindset into somebody who's a mega achiever, I mean, if you go watch this Netflix special that he did and you guys should go watch it, it's incredible. But when you're at the highest, people that are at the highest level are really scrutinizing about their work and they're honest about their work, they're self-aware. One of the things that they, I think people that get to a really high level set just a higher standard. Like they just, their standard for themselves and their performance is super high. And that's why he was telling me off-care.

And he's like, yeah, I don't really feel like I hit the mark on that one. I was playing golf with a dude yesterday. Tells him it wasn't his best work. Yeah. And, but also, I think you begin to lose at anything, whether you're in business or anything, when you lose your self-awareness. You just don't, you know, and you've seen this in your industry too, it's like this

guy is just oblivious that his work isn't what it used to be or he's not working as hard as he used to be or she used to be. So I think it's actually a really good thing that you say that. I don't love the fact that you don't feel good about it, but I thought you are really a physical comic too, so that tucks was a little bit restrictive. But you have a lot happening. Like, so you're doing stand up. He's one of the few, you know, a lot of you aren't like stand up people,

but like today, Bert Christcher's out on the show, right? He's like, today's the release. Well, we're recording this. He's out today. It's not like I have that many comedians on. It's ironic, but Bert is one in you. There's only about eight, five, six, seven of you dudes who can fill up arenas, and you're one of them.

And I think you were the top gross in comic. You know, when you're doing this, it'll be the top gross in comic in the world. Are you an actor? A comic? What are you now? Or are you trying to be all of these things? If it was five years from now, you could wave a wand. Are you still doing arenas and doing standup?

Or are you leading man in three or four movies a year? No, I don't. I'm a stand-up comedian. That's, that's what I am. I'm not deviating from what got me here and really, really enjoyed doing stand-up. Do I enjoy doing movies and TV? I mean, the last movie I did this about my father, I, it wasn't a fun experience for me. I had a lot of anxiety. I, I, I, I struggled because I got a family. I got two small kids.

I'm 50. I got a six year old and a four year old. So I'm in Alabama for nine weeks doing this movie. And in my head, you know, I'm a family guy first. So I'm sitting there going, what am I doing? What am I doing in Alabama when my daughter's at a recital and that recital's never gonna happen again at that age, at that moment.

I'm not gonna see that. Who knows what could happen. There could be a moment there. There's a memory there I'm missing. So I had that in my head. And I don't think a lot of, I shouldn't say this. Some people in the entertainment industry, just they go out, they do movies

and that's what I do. And the family's the family. And when I come home, I come home and I can't listen, I got to beat her. I got to beat at my house with my kids. So that's what I was dealing with. Number two, I'm working with DeNiro, who's arguably one of the best actors of our generation. And I'm questioning myself, can I do this? Right. Because I've been in movies, not a lot, but just poppins. But this is the first movie I'm doing, Soup to Nuts, and I'm starring in it, I co-wrote it.

And then you question yourself, where am I going? Should I be here? Can I do this? So that was going on how'd you get through it? Well, then I'm in pain too with the sciatica. You know, I'm dealing You were starting to sound like it's old Listen, I'm 50 I should not be walking around like you talk about yeah, it's gonna be hard to get off out of the chair Yeah, yeah, we me too. We might's gonna be hard to get off out of the chair. Me too, we might need help.

Help from everybody in here to get out of our chairs. Yeah, so what I did was, all right, I said this is a great opportunity for me. The process for me is not fun. It's 14 hours on the set. Comedy, you go hour, a half, you're done, you go home. This is, you know, for a comedian. Plus, I'm doing a comedy. Nobody's laughing, you know. Yeah, no feedback.

I'm missing the feedback. So it was a little difficult to get used to doing that type of performance. What is it like working with the narrow? Very quiet. He's not one to, you know, like cut. It's not like I go up to him going, so we go on a night, you know, really? It's not that he has a goes to his chair. He's got paperwork and what it looks like he's opening up another noble 10 to three scenes. Seriously. Yeah, he's like, you know, he's on the phone. He's talking and so He's nice, you know, if I if I went up to him asking the question why not? He's you know, he's receptive of it, but you know, like he's you know in his own world. He's to himself. He's very introverted

I'm not I'm not that introverted. I'm personable and I'm talking to people on set and the rest of the crew. Is it almost uncomfortable? Yeah, I just don't think he has the gift of gab, which is fine. Maybe he does with people that he's really close with, which I could relate to. But I would think like if I'm already insecure, I'm working with the goat, right? And I'm an actor, but I'm new to this big of acting. I want the guy when we're done with the scene to go, great job, you nailed that.

You're like, here's some feedback. You're not, you're not good. That happened later on. Okay. When I had a scene where I had to cry at the end of the movie and I've never cried on a film before. I'm an emotional guy. I have no problem crying. But you know, when you're

acting, it's a different muscle. So I went into that scene going, man, I hope I cry. And we're on a tarmac. There's an airplane there. I had to get, I had to be out of breath in the scene. So I had to run around the tarmac with this leg that I have an issue with. And I come into the scene, we do the scene. He's he's crying Exactly where he's supposed to be crying and I'm looking at this guy in the scene going This guy's in pain Like I don't I'm like I'm not even in the scene. I'm just like almost a fan. Yeah watching him cry and They yell cut

Now I noticed that he is very he's not he's very different this day than he was any other day Because of its emotional scene and he wanted to keep the emotion there. So he was he was like come on. Let's let's do it again He's so now I'm getting in my head. Oh He was like, come on, let's let's do it again. So now I'm getting in my head. I go, oh, fuck it. Because I don't know how many cries this guy's got left. Right? Like, I don't know.

So we do it again. I don't cry. So at that point I go, bro, I need help. I need help. Can you help me out? So we walk on the plane together. Just him and I. I said, I don't know how to get there. He goes, well, I was going to tell you, but I, you know, I don't know how to get there he goes well I was

gonna tell you but I you know I don't know your process I go there's no I'm just hoping this comes out of me so what I do is I think in this particular instance he's like I think about my son and he's your age and he starts crying talking about his son to you to me This is not even in the scene. This is like a moment we're having and I start to cry And I go I gotta use this and so I run around I run around I come into the scene. I'm crying throughout the scene Which I'm not really supposed to but you know, I'm like, oh, wow, this is working. Cut, let's do it again.

Now they gotta do it again. Do it again. What the fuck? I don't know if I got it. I don't have another one of these. So, you know, that moment, he was really, really helpful in teaching me how to get to that moment.

And I learned a hell of a lot just being around him and how he, for example, in scenes he's always doing something. You know, he's, if he's got a pack, he's packing, he wants to know what I pack, you think I'd pack up the socks on this side of the bag or he's very specific in his movements. Wow. Which, again, for me, a guy who doesn't do this that often, I would just generally, okay, where do I stand and I'm going to talk.

But he uses the environment around him. Attention to detail is crazy too. Yeah. And it's believable. If you're in a scene and you're fiddling around and drinking some water and some nuts or whatever you're doing, not necessarily eating, but if you're doing an activity, it makes it believable and you as an actor are not so in your head about being in a scene. You're almost, you know, the lines are almost secondary as you're doing something.

If you wouldn't in real life, if I was talking to you and cleaning the dishes, you know, it's just more of a natural vibe. So I think it helped me for Bookie, which I felt extremely relaxed. It was in Los Angeles. I was with Chuck Laurie, who's, you know, done north of a thousand episodes of television. And I felt really comfortable with his, you know, just him knowing what he wants. Not that the director and about my father, did you know she was great. But Chuck Warrie in TV, it's just, you know, you're working with one of the best ever.

So I felt like about my father prepared me for Bookie. So you're gonna be acting, cause you're good at it. You look good. I'm starting to do some too. And like I'm so insecure about it. What you just said, I haven't done it. It's new. I'm used to doing it.

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So he'd leave there, go do stand-up, come back and be a server again the same night, right? And now, flash forward, I mean, seriously brother, just for a minute, like let people, like there's a lot of people right now that are in that waiter stage of their life that listen to my show that want to be you, that they're, they want to be that entrepreneur, they want to be that businessman, they want to write the book, they want to be the speaker, they want to be the whatever, the athlete. And now you flash forward.

Here's what you just said to me. Yeah, I'm doing a movie with Robert De Niro. Now I got this show bookie. I fill up arenas. I got this beautiful wife Lana. I got two amazing kids. My dad's still alive to see all the success that I'm having. Be real about it. Is it what you thought? Is success, because it

wasn't for me, is success like what you thought it would be? How you'd feel about yourself, how much you would enjoy it, what your emotions would be day to day in doing it. I had a picture that when I would get there, everything would probably be okay. I don't know. I thought I wouldn't feel as much pressure. I actually almost feel more pressure if I'm being honest, right? Like to keep it going and to maintain it and to grow it. I thought I'd have more confidence or pride in myself when I got there. I don't know.

Like I just, I thought certain elements would be different. What about for you? Like you've got a really good life. Do you enjoy it? Like really? Are you in the midst of trying to run it and keep it together and grow it more than you get a chance to enjoy it? Marshall So I'm on the transition of it because I'm exactly like yourself where I was happier as a performer when I was doing

the holiday in Banana's Comedy Club in Hasbro, Kites, New Jersey and coming up and making a room full of strangers who really didn't know who I was laugh. And then after that, going out, meeting, greeting everybody in the lobby, taking photos and whatnot. That for me was like really, really fun.

I mean, I was, I was, you know, I was still, I was in a 900 square foot apartment. I was, you know, I was making some money, but nothing, you know, nothing crazy. I never, I'm not, and I'm sure some of your listeners, you know, are very diligent about writing down goals. This is what I want. Yeah. You told me that. Yeah.

It's not your thing. He loves motivational speaking. He loves goal setting. No, no, no. I love hearing motivational speaking and some of these things. I'm like, oh, I just, my mind doesn't. You're a worker. Work that way. It's like I go out like I

Go out to Pasadena ice house and I'll do four sets. That's kind of my way I work. Yep But to answer your question, I Am now in the process of trying to enjoy this more because as we were talking, you know It's like all right you get to a certain level and then you buy a home and there's a lot of things that go along with that home maintenance of it, there's you know More people in your life that you are paying, you know, because you're Growing your business your enterprise. So there's more personalities now that you're dealing with

Which you didn't have I didn't have that I was doing everything myself. You somebody ordered DVD I would sign it put it in and now it's like there's there's a social media team. There's a PR team There's you know, there's just a lot of people and also I have a fear of like I didn't grow up this way I didn't grow up with the money. I you know, what's enough? You know, what am I working towards? Am I going to, what am I doing? I mean, what, how am I doing? Am I, am I, yes, yes.

Am I working towards what? You know, I was talking about family. I'm a family guy, but you know, you do have to have like a little bit of a balance. You know, there's, there's, I go, yeah, should I, should I be doing Vegas five times a year? And that's it. Do I need to go on an arena tour? Do I need to do another TV or movie or another podcast? You talk about doing all these things where I think people feel pressured to do. Oh, like, oh, so what's that podcast? Oh, so what's the more I got the movie. You're right. Yes. So for me, I'm like What am I doing podcasts because I really love it? Mm-hmm. You mean your own my own. Yeah

Even like even going out and doing podcasts. Mm-hmm like I've heard oh If you want your podcasts to grow you got to go on other podcasts. And then those people see you and then they're going to, are they? I don't know. You know, like, I'm often like, I like, you know, like podcasts that I like doing and enjoy. I know that this is going to be something I enjoy because you're a host who doesn't talk, you you know much, you know, you give the questions you add a little color But it's you know, you want to hear what I have to say and sometimes I go on podcasts and it's like, you know

I don't know. I mean this is not this may be not my vibe. Maybe this is I don't fit in here This is you know, I'm not like, you know, wacky and crazy and not going to do something that, you know, you're, you know, these, these people are going to go, what the fuck? Right. Right. So I don't know. I don't know. I'm wrestling with a lot of these things. I know you are.

I am too. I'm trying to figure out, and this is great that we're talking about, we're two 50 year old dudes, basically, in a good point in our career where people would like to get. And I think people would like to know, what does that feel like when I get there. That's why I ask you that and it's not always elements of it or what you would think it would be. But there's a, I'll ask you a few of these things. I struggle with, I don't want to lose momentum. I don't want to lose my relevance. Do I want, do I not want to lose relevance because I might not make the money that I'm making? Or do I not want people to see me not be relevant? Like I'm up the flagpole now and then they'll go, that guy used to be.

Is it that? Is it, I ask myself, when does this pace end? Do you ever wonder that too? You can go back after I sell you what some of mine are. When's this pace end? To what end is this? In 10 years, am I still working 330 days a year? I thought I wouldn't be.

And then the navigating of family and all of these other things. Do you worry about losing momentum, like losing your relevance? Do you struggle with those same things I'm saying too? It's like, when does this end? Do I want it? Don't want to be 80 years old doing this on a Tuesday? Do you know what I'm saying?

Like, do you, does that enter your mind? Yeah, I do think about momentum. I do think about- Which you have. Yeah, but what if I told you, Edmonds, go away for two years. Stop doing this, stop doing the motivations. Just go away for two years, just relax.

Enjoy, get two kids in college, go up, not that you're not doing this, go up, take some more family vacations, pick up a hobby, and I know you golf, but I've often thought maybe I should, you know, go to cooking school. Which you love. Which I love. And Chris Rock told me this and he's very diligent about this. He goes, it's hard to make an entrance when he never leaves the room, right? And I was like, because he's like, you're always touring, right? And they always have access to you

because you're always out there. But when you go away and come back, it's more of a spectacle, it's more of an event because no one's seen you for two or three years. What do you have to say? What's he doing? I think nowadays with social media, I think Michael Jackson had it really dialed in

where you didn't see this guy everywhere. You know, when when you did, it was like it's like a unicorn. You know, he was on our senior once he popped out to give Eddie Murphy an award. I was like, Oh my God, I remember that. He's there. He drives. You know, like, uh, so I often think to myself, All right, do I need to be doing all this? Do I need to be on social media constantly with the phone? And then, hey, I'm skiing. Do I wanna do the video?

I don't know, do I? But I feel like if the people don't see me, they're not gonna buy the tickets to come to the show, it all has this effect. So I don't know. I think Garth Brooks took 10 years off and because he wanted to be with his family and raises kids, he came back and he's fine. Yeah, he is.

But there's an element of it like you're on a great point here, like what's the right rest? What's the right calibration? And a lot of the people that listen to my show are trying to get there. But at the same time, you know, all the watch is a lot of comedians, there's an edge that you keep by staying in the reps. And even like, no, I don't know, you can't say this, but like some of the guys, you even their names, you just like, when Eddie Murphy took a bunch of time off and now I see him now, I'm like, I don't know what he's as funny as he used to be.

You know, I don't know what the entrepreneur is as sharp as they used to be. I don't know if Garth Brooks is as good as I haven't seen his music, I don't know. But there's that element of the edge too where like you... There's a rhythm to success. That's the one thing people don't tell you is like, it's not just the work and the reps, there's a rhythm that you get into and there's a momentum and it's a magnifier. It can make someone pretty good seem really, really great. One of the things I've struggled with though that has not made my momentum well is I haven't

always hired well around me. And I'm just curious, you said you've got these people around you now. Have you had anybody, not who it is or what it was, but how have you dealt if it's happened with people that have worked for you or with you that have either let you down, purposely harmed you, not done a good job around you. Like, how have you dealt with that? Have you had that experience where it's like, this is not what I thought it would be? Well, listen, I mean, I'm a comedian and I didn't, you know, I didn't grow up or in my 20s, I wasn't like in a company. And I don't know like how marketing sales, CEO, like that language where it's like interpersonal

skills with people and dealing with all these different personalities. Yeah, I mean, I was the president of my fraternity in college, right? There's a lot of different personalities there, but I wouldn't say my strong suit is being an unbelievable leader. You know, it's not like, it's not my, it's not what I do. Yeah. But you almost thrown into this thing where it's like, okay, now I'm kind of like running a business.

Yeah, you're a brand, you're a company. Yeah. And like Jay-Z says, I'm a business man, you know, like I'm a business man. You know, you are, you're now a business. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And some people adapt to that. Remind me not to quote any hip hop lyrics again.

Go ahead. That was just a big miss. The way you first said it, like, it's a business man. There's something in there. I'm a business man. Yeah. I nailed it at the end. I pulled it together.

It just took me a man. Yeah, I nailed it at the end. I pulled it together. It just took me a minute Yeah, so, you know Yeah, hiring people Yeah, I don't know like I don't know what to ask an interview People come in an interview for a position, right? I don't know. Are you gonna do good? Yeah, you don't know until you know, right? The way I look at it is like, and plus, I'm the personality. It's like, I expect people to read my mind, right? And then when they don't, I'm like, hey, it's it.

They suck, you know? And then like, rather than tell them, hey, listen, this is the way I want it. Because sometimes I often think, if I do say something, does it come off as being too direct? Does the person feel like I'm always worried about how the person is taking my message? Right? And a lot of people just say it. Like, listen, when I walk in, I want, I want Evian water filled. But then, you know, sometimes I think I like things the way I want it, but then I'm like,

I'm also struggling too with, I used to, I used to put the water in the thing and I do that too. You know, like, and who am I now? Now I need it the way I want it, but I can't do it because I don't got enough time and the person thinks, why, why don't you, it's me too. It's a f***ed up mindset, you know, instead of like, Hey, I'm paying you to do a job. And this is what the job requires. Sometimes I struggle with, I got a problem over here's one. Sometimes I got a problem. And hey, the gardeners come and do the gardening. And I'm doing

something else. My head, the gardeners look at me going, you can't cut the grass. That's what I think too. What the f*** are you gonna think you're saying? Dude, hey, yesterday I had a guy come over. This is so interesting. I had a guy, we were so wired, like I had a guy come over, there's a storm coming to Florida. So there's a guy that comes over that covers my outdoor furniture for me, right?

Because I'm here doing things that would produce more revenue than covering the outdoor furniture. Yeah. Literally when I saw the guy, so I'm looking at me like, you're not a man. You can't cover your own furniture outside. I think the exact same thing. Like it's exactly how my mind works because I was that guy who did that stuff before. Yeah. Yeah. And now I'm like, and it's funny because people will think like, I'm like this big, intense boss. I don't like to make people uncomfortable. If there's even like Gardner example, if the yard's not being done right, I'm like, babe, will you let the Gardner know? Like I don't even like to be the person to tell people I won't send food back

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while subscription is active. You, but I wanna go, I wanna get a couple of things focused on this. For you, so I understand you better. You don't know the end game then you're saying, you're not really sure, you're just kind of in the grind of growing and producing content and shows and stuff that produces revenue and that you enjoy doing like expressing yourself that's really where you're at. Yeah. What are you going to so if we flash forwarded to 60 so you got 10 more years

and I said to you hey man you nailed you nailed these 10 years, all your dreams came true, everything you want. I'm not saying you're goal setting here, but like would it be you've made 10 more big movies or you've just done a bunch of stand-up or is it more like, nope, my kids are now teenagers, we've had great memories together and the most important thing to me was that I just got the time with my family and that's really the thing that I'm most focused on. Yeah, I'm not sitting over here going, I need to accomplish. If I did stand up and did bookie, that would be fine for me. Do I want challenges in my career? Yeah, that's why I do the podcast. I go, can I make Daddy versus Doctor a podcast that people would listen to not only for information about parenting but for

Entertainment so I don't know I don't know at 60 What I'll be doing there is literally no plan I'm literally living day by day. My wife often goes, you know, like let's plan things this year So there's a vacation in the books and and we're not scrambling to go to Utah in November for a December trip, you know? Like there's families like, I'm like, how do they do it? Every year they're there. They're December 22nd to the 28th.

They're there. I don't get that. I'm like, man, I don't even know. Can we book that far in advance? Yeah. There might be something that comes up that I got, you know, I don't even know. Could we book that far in advance? There might be something that comes up that I got, you know, like that. Yeah. And I'm trying to get out of that.

Me too. I thought by this age, I would have that figured out and I don't. We're more similar than I realized, even though I tell people to do the things that I'm not doing all the time, because I don't do a lot of that either. So okay, I want to get into some, a couple productive things here just for the audience to know. How many other stand-ups make you laugh No, man, um, there's very talented guys out there

It's just when you're in this business, I just don't think Yeah, you laugh you know, it's funny Well, you know like the last one guy was laughing at literally laughing where I'm not looking at the joke Or anything was Janus Popis. He did Check him out. He's okay really really funny and for whatever the reason he had me on the floor Like really have rolled off the couch on the floor laughing. That's what I want to feel when I watch a comedian That's what I want to feel when I watch a comedian. So yeah, I laugh more at things you're not supposed to laugh at. Like things like, even in a drama movie, I might be laughing at something.

What are you talking about? Yeah, just things that... I got to understand this. Just like, just things that... I got to understand this. I don't even, I couldn't even give you an example off the top of my head, but... Things you should not be laughing at, like someone dies in a movie or like that is freaking hilarious. I'm laughing at a funeral.

Funeral, but it's not a comedy scene. There, I give you an example. And I don't know if this is appropriate or not. I was at my uncle's funeral. Okay. We recently passed away. And I was in the back and I was with my sister and, you know, people are crying and whatnot. And I'm looking around.

Telling my sister. The wake thing is antiquated the way they got this set up and everybody's hungry here Shit we get inappropriate That like past or nerves and awake right this is just a thought Because the food's always in a room down in the basement where you gotta go. It's like a little convenient. Or a bar. Shit's open bar. Cocktail. You know, like nice to take the edge off with a stout. Those type of moments I feel.

And this is me saying it it but like I know guys I got a friend back home. His name is George Kafka is one of the funniest guys. I know like We we laugh at things like this. Mm-hmm. Are you looking like does that become a bit? Like is what you just said gonna be a bit now like are you know? I didn't even thought about it until now like and, and my sister was like, I said, I kind of have it. I'm just, this is, don't, don't smile here. Don't smile. Yeah. Like, you know, it's like, I don't know.

I just tend like, wakes seem to be there, you know, sad. Someone just passed away and for some of the cracking jokes in the back might be looked as like here. But you know, but I also look at it as this is a healing for me. Yeah, this healing. I I I had my moment with my uncle. I looked at him. I, you know, I said my my prayer. I looked at the the, you know, they have a screen with all the memories of him.

And I sat there and I'm sitting there balling and crying, looking at all the stuff and whatnot. But afterwards, where's the other nerves? It's of a drink. And I sat there and I'm sitting there balling and crying looking at all the stuff and whatnot, but afterwards Where's the other nerves? It's a drink I like that by the way anyone listen to this in my funeral have an open bar Let's have some cigar rollers. I don't have an open bar. I like that idea Do you before you do what you're great at? So everyone has this thing that they're great at your great at stand up You're great at communicating you're great at making people laugh you're great at. So everyone has this thing that they're great at. You're great at stand up. You're great at communicating. You're great at making people laugh. You're

great at other stuff. But that's obviously a gift you've monetized really well and that you're awesome at. What's it feel like when you're doing something you're great at? So before you do it, so you're going to go do an arena. What's the first arena on the tour? Do you know where you go first? I think it's Norfolk, Virginia. Okay, Norfolk. Probably Norfolk, but whatever. In Virginia. Yeah. Yeah, that place. And so you're going to go there. It's like an hour before the show.

I want to know what you feel before you go up and what you feel when you walk off the hour after. So the feeling I'm feeling before I go on is I'm very, it's very calm. I'm not doing anything backstage that is pumping me up to go on stage. You know, I saw the Tony Robinson, this guy's jumping on a trampoline, he's getting a high top, he's walking around and he comes out and boom. That's just, that's, you know, that's his style. My style is I'm backstage.

I'm listening to my, my bits, some of the recordings that I've done over the past whatever year and a half, making sure that, you know, that I missed something, something in the pop in my head. So there's nothing, nothing that I'm doing that's out of the ordinary. And the feeling is a little bit of anxiety. And then going, walking to the stage, these are moments where I walk through the crowd

to get to the stage, so I'm high-fiving people, just that and the other thing. But again, I'm not like a raw, raw guy. It's not like I'm getting the crowd to get to the stage. So I'm high-fiving people, this, that, and the other thing. But again, I'm not like a raw, raw guy. It's not like I'm getting the crowd going. I'm coming out. Yeah. You know, so I often think of that. I'm in my head there.

As I'm walking through the audience, I go, you know, should I be doing more? Do you really? Is this, you know, is this a cool entrance? Me coming through, slamping? I don't know. I'm always thinking in my head, I'm never living in the moment.

I'm always kind of like, Interesting. Like thinking other things than what I'm doing at that particular moment. Interesting. And then when I go up on stage, when I go up there, it's a little uncomfortable to be honest with you.

I really miss the days of going on stage and nobody knew who the hell I was. And it was just, I felt like, all right, you don't even know what's about to hit you right now. You don't never seen anything like this before. Now they've seen it, right? And now they got something to compare it to. So there's a pressure there of is this going to be, this guy going to bring it tonight? What does he got up his sleeve?

Can I ask on that? Yeah. This is a hard question. I mean, this with like respect, okay? Do you ever worry about that very thing right there? Like what's, I don't mean this by disrespect to anybody. You can develop a dice clay type thing. I know this is your industry, but like, all right, is he going to do the nursery? Is it the hickory dickory doc? Do you worry about staying who you are yet staying fresh enough that it is like he's got it's new? Do you know what I mean when I say that? Yes. So there are some iconic bits that comedians have. Okay.

And people are like, oh, I love when he does that, that, that. Which comedians run into this a lot is like, you're not like musicians where, you know, they want to hear the hits. Comedy they want to hear, what do you got now? Maybe left before, but I want something else. Now, I have some really, really good bits that people kind of know me for, and they've seen them online. I haven't done those bits live, really, in years, right? So if a person comes to see me on this tour, they might have not seen the Chipotle bit live or the doorbell bit live.

Right. So I often go, maybe at the end, and I know some comedians, I think Jim Gaffigan does this where he comes back out. What do you want to hear? Got you. He does like favorite. So I don't think there's anything wrong with doing some of your older stuff that people might have never seen before.

But now when you walk up, you're like, hey, man, it's a different feeling. You liked better when you're like, I'm about to see some thunder you've never seen in your life. Now you're like, they're expecting thunder. And that's a different feeling when you're up there. Yeah. It's the thunder going to be as loud as it was last time. So that's always thick. And you'd like to think as a performer, like you got your finger on the pulse.

This is what they want to hear because you never want to kind of... I get a lot of times, we love your father in that bit and being Italian. We relate to that. So you got those people, right? But then you don't want to be like catering to like the audience's desires, right? You want to do what makes you happy and then hopefully that will make the audience happy. That's a big thing as a speaker too, right there. What? Yeah, okay. I want you to do the thing where like, man, I want to be able, I want to run through the ceiling when I get out and go, well, that's not the vibe tonight. Tonight

here's what we're going to do. We're going to do what I want to do tonight because I'm the speaker. Well, often too, you as a speaker, you're growing as an individual. Right. What used to interest me, even what I used to think, I don't even always think anymore. Yeah. Same thing. Now, what about when you, are you ever up there going, I'm crushing in the middle of it or you don't let yourself have that feeling or like, ooh, I'm slipping here.

You know, I've had that when I'm speaking. I'm like, wow, that was quiet right there. You know, and it's almost, I wasn't thinking it, but the lack of response was like, almost a wake up for me when I'm up there. Yeah, I think you hear the silence more than you hear the roars. So I'm never going, this is killing. I go, oh, wow, that, we're in a hole.

Right. We gotta dig out of this quickly. So I'm hearing that more than I'm hearing the constant laughter. I mean, I hear the laughter and it's not like I'm oblivious to, oh, wow, that landed, but I'm more tuned into the silence. You walk off, you got an hour now.

Is it what I do as I go? And this is what I want people to, and whatever they do for a living. This is what I think you should be doing, like reflecting on your work. But like, when I'm done, I'm usually like, I miss that. I forgot this. I should have said this differently. And I go through a thing of insecurity. That's how I would describe when I walk off stage. I'm actually insecure before I walk up, a little bit of anxiety and all that.

When I'm there, I feel pretty good usually on the stage speaking and doing what I do. I think this is true if someone's given a sales presentation or whatever. And then when I'm done, I become insecure again, almost instantly, where I'm like, ah, did I do this? I messed that up. Man, that was an opportunity. Do you have that or no? Well, before I answer that question, I want to ask you, while you're up there as a speaker,

I mean, for me, the validation that I'm doing well is the laughter. For you as a motivational speaker, what is the gauge for you that, oh, I'm killing. I've never been to one of these things. I don't know what's- Yeah, it's harder. Usually they're response though. They're noise level. Actually, they're

engaged with me if when I do drop sucks, I use humor too. So when I do drop humor, is it like they're right with me immediately? Are they writing notes down if I'm giving a talk on something? If I'm doing something emotional where they should be crying, are they crying? More for me, actually, it's not even that's not even really true. I just kind of feel it when I'm on. It's like a spirit, like I'll cause a Christian person to Holy Spirit, but like I feel it when I'm on. I'm like, we're in rhythm together. There's a rhythm with me and them that I know we're in and they know we're in

and I can kind of almost go anywhere I want and there's a connection and it sounds weird, but like an energetic connection that I feel with the room, the vast majority of the room that, and I'm so weird, but like an energetic connection that I feel with the room, the vast majority of the room that, and I'm so weird, there'll be 10,000 people in the room. I'll find the one dude not paying attention and I'll look at him for some reason. I don't know why I do that, but there's an energy that I'm feeling that I know we're at one.

And then, and that's really what it would be like, we're one. And then there's other times when I'm speaking where we're two. There's me and then there's the audience and we're separate and I'm speaking to them rather than with them. And that energy is different. Does that make sense? Do you feel that same thing? I feel that.

That's a definite feeling I have where no matter what you do up there, you feel like you could do anything. You can even go off your script. Sometimes I'm feeling so good that I'm in the zone where I could just improv and everything that's coming out of my mouth. I even go, wow. I thought about that three years ago and it came out right now. So I definitely feel that there's an energy, there's symbiotic relationship that you have

with the audience. So I do. I think that energy exists in anything you're doing that you enjoy that you're great at. So I think if you're a good salesperson, when you really got someone with you, there's that energetic connection. When you're with your kids, when you're doing anything, you can feel an energetic connection that is lacking when it's not there. I hate that feeling when it's not there.

When it is there, other than being with my family, it's the greatest feeling in the world. Do you feel like... I've often felt this, when you go to a social gathering and you meet somebody that maybe you don't know, and the energy, I feel like the energy is even contained in small conversations. Now I often go, is it me? That's not, is it me that's not giving the energy? Me too. Is that person going, I can't connect with this person because he doesn't want to be? So I often think of that in conversation. Am I the problem?

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I think I have the same feeling, and this is weird, we're doing this on my podcast, but I'm glad we are. I have the same problem, and I think like, because I have such a pretty good energetic connection in front of crowds of people now, I'm often surprised by like, it's social gatherings that I don't.

And it's rare that I meet someone that I vibe with energetically. And I'm wondering is that because I've changed and I've become isolated and I'm different? Or am I an odd dude? But like, I feel like often I'm forcing myself one-on-one situations and social things to have that connection that's much easier for me in groups. I don't know why that is, but like I do rarely feel that great vibe one-on-one when I meet new people, not meaning I don't like them or love them. I also always feel that when people come up to me that are fans, I always ask my wife, was I nice enough to them? Like that they're looking for something more for me in that moment than they got.

Does that make sense? And I feel so weird about that. I want them to feel that I love and appreciate them and connect. I more often than not feel like I let them down with whatever my lack of energy was with them. Do you have that? Yeah, sometimes I feel like, oh, you know, because sometimes I'll catch you off guard or whatnot. And you're like, oh, or they're behaving in a way where I'm bothered by it. You? It's crazy. Well, you know, like someone will come up and

start doing my act right in front of me. Right? And, and yeah, I really appreciate that they really enjoy what I do that it's not, but it's like, you know, I was at An amusement park with my family and my son and and my daughter and you know, you guys coming up with doing my bits And I'm ha ha. Yeah. Thanks, but like sometimes I can't hide the You know awkwardness the awkwardness of it all and yeah, listen, I want to take a photo, let's take a photo. Literally, that's what they're there for. They want the photo.

It's leading up to that. Yeah, rarely is it, hey man, really like what you do and then boom. And those people, I really appreciate it. Those people, I want to talk to them more just because they're not looking for the photo, which I understand you want the photo. That's great, but I just wish sometimes it was a little bit more than that.

What do you want for your kids? Learn on that much more time, but you've now done what you wanted to do in your life. My attitude with my kids has changed. Mine are in college now, and they're both starting to look at their careers and I don't know. I think the advice that I, someone asked me the other day, I really wrestled with this. Like, do you regret that you missed some of these things with your kids to pursue your whatever those successes were? Like you said, I'm doing this movie and I'm missing a recital or whatever. And I used to say, this is a big moment on the show for me and you, this will be a clip

for people. Oh, I love Mark. Here we go. You guys ready? Get the clean. Get ready. No, no, no, it's not one of those. I used to say like, yeah, I do regret that I missed that thing and because you can never

get them back. But now that I'm where I'm at in my life and I have a lot of my buddies who didn't miss any of those things. But here's the truth. They also didn't pursue financial stability for their family. They didn't protect them. And by the way, the easy things to go to the recital sometimes, the easy things to be the football coach.

That's fun. The hard things to go work. And this is just the real. Now that my kids are older, we were having dinner on Christmas Eve and this topic came up. And I said, well, you know, cause I want everyone to know the hard work they're putting

and this is important. Cause the Instagram culture, the easy things, they go, yeah, I regret, I missed it. You're not going to get that ball game back. True. But your kids live a lot longer than just when they're little. And I said, you know, here's where we are. We're at dinner and we're in a nice restaurant. And tonight,

you guys are in a safe house. And the world can't get at us financially. Bella, you're going to a college that cost me six figures a year. Max, you're going to go to school. You're probably going to go play a little bit of golf after I'll be able to help you do that. Your kids will be okay. I have a lot of friends that are my age that are scared financially. They can't help their children. They couldn't help their grandchildren if they got in big trouble. They can't take care of their parents. I've been able to take care of your mom's parents.

I've been able to take care of my parents when they've needed things. I can be the go-to person in our family and you guys are safe. So yeah, I did miss some things, but now that I'm on the other side of it and I see my buddies out on the other side of it, life is long. Life is long. It's not just those years that are in your house.

I don't think I do. I think I'm kind of proud of myself for doing the hard thing. The easy thing, frankly, was to been your flag football coach. That would be fun playing with kids all day. And I'm not demeaning that either. But there's an argument to be made for protecting and winning and supporting and providing for your family also. And I'm being serious about it.

So I wonder if you even give yourself enough credit for that. And I wonder what advice you would give your kids about that, like pursuing your dream, becoming successful, you know, or what matters? Is it just like being like, I think our wives are similar in that like they're just happy, you know, like they don't need all this stuff either. But I have provided security and peace for my family. And it's almost like you don't know what you don't know. My kids don't know what it would be like to have a dad

who's financially struggling in his 50s or 60s or grandparents who were gonna get displaced from their home because they couldn't afford it. So I don't know that I do regret it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I, the question I have is what is it, what is it? Yeah, you- What's it? What is it? Yeah, you-

What's enough? What's enough? Like, you know, could I stop now and be comfortable the rest of my life? Probably, you know, I don't know what's ahead. What I would tell my kids, and it's happiness. What is happiness? Is it success? Is it money?

Is it all these things? You know, all these people that will listen to you, yeah, bro, I want to be an entrepreneur or I want to, you know, I want to bowl or I want to this or that. First of all, if you're in it for that, then I think you're off to the wrong start. You got to do what you love. After you find that out, all that stuff will come eventually. And I never got in this business for fame, any of that. So, I tell my kids, you know, whatever makes you happy, you know, whatever

you have it fun doing. Now, if I ask my daughter, she's six, what do you want to be when you grow up? And she goes, I want to be a mommy and I want to be a teacher. Now, those two things, and when you attach money to those two things, it's not there, right? But she's going to be happy being a teacher and a mommy. Man, that's success for me. I did something right as a parent. I had that conversation with my friend.

Because at one point, I was like, I want my kids to be more successful than I am, right? And he goes, they're never going to happen. I go, right? And he goes, now we're going to happen. I go, why? He goes, you know how hard it is for you to get to where you were and then to have your kids replicate that equally or greater? It's very unlikely, right? But then I'm like, is it unlikely? I mean, are they seeing now, and to go to your point about being home as a dad and doing the basketball coach or doing this, the kids don't see that parent who's doing all that, go to work. So they're like, oh, is this what life is?

Daddy's home or mommy's home and they just play with us all day long. When they see you go away and come back or they see what you do and go, oh man, that's that's that's look at daddy does he does this. Even my wife, you know, she's an artist and they see her paint beautiful. Oh, wow. They I could do that. That's cool. And they see how good of a mom she is.

She's present. She's there. She's interacting. She's doing arts and crafts with the kids. That's gonna go, my kids are gonna do that with their kids. When you don't have a parent, they're doing that. The kid has no like template to move forward. When their parents, they don't even know, because I believe it all starts at the home, bro.

It's parenting. I'm constantly correcting my kids. I'm like, even Seraphina will go. So then my daughter will go, oh, you know, don't we went to Legoland and I won this. I want to come here. We don't brag. We don't we don't how what we got.

I know some people might have a smaller house than us. Doesn't make that less than. These are the teachings that you have to be instilling in your kids. And I see on the flip side, parents just let that go. The bragging, the this, the that, and it's not corrected. Shit, man.

This is 24 seven parent thing, right? And this is why I feel sometimes if I am not there, not that my wife- It'll slip a little. Yeah, it's gonna slip, but my wife is there to fill in the holes, but they also need that fatherly vibe. So I don't know. I'm providing a runway for my kids to have them,

and thank God for my wife on this point. She is an adventure seeker, no fear. Went to Legoland, my kids, let's go on every roller coaster. I grew up scared out of my gourd to get on a roller coaster, but I'm at Legoland with my kids, and it's amazing what kids will make you do. My daughter said, Dad, you want to go on a roller coaster? And I couldn't deny her enjoying that moment with me, even though I might have thrown up while I was on the roller coaster.

We have a video of it and to see her and me interacting in the back of my wife was filming, it was like, I would have missed it. I would have missed it. And it's not about the house, the car, the toys. It's about those little memories that she's gonna sit there when she's 22 years old. Daddy, remember when we went on the dragon at Lego Land? And it's like, how great was that?

So that's what I'm trying to be. And I'm gonna take them on tour with me. Not that they're gonna do every city, but now they're gonna enjoy this with me. And hopefully when I'm 60, 65 years old, I won't be doing. Yeah. I'm gonna call you on your 65th birthday,

Hey bro, I need you. That was my favorite part of the interview because you got a little emotional there about your babies. The thing I admire most about you is that, you know, as I got to know you a little bit, as I observe you, I think you're a world-class husband and father. And you're just an immensely talented dude. You're really unique. Everyone's got a little peek inside of who you are today.

And I enjoyed it, brother. The stuff with the kids, most stuff with their kids, I think is caught, not taught. I think they catch it. They're seeing how hard their daddy works. They're seeing their mom's beautiful artwork. They're seeing how loving and caring and present she is and you are.

And somehow that stuff transfers over. I just really believe that so today was awesome Well, I gotta tell you bro And we talked about me not doing a lot of podcasts or maybe me being uncomfortable and not showing who I really am because I'm Guarded on some of these things But for you and you should really be proud of yourself that you have a platform like this where people are able to share Their stories because you know, I tune into your podcast and people feel, I could feel it through the camera.

People are comfortable. They're who they are. They're not trying to be somebody else. And you really make it comfortable for people to talk even though we're in a movie theater and we're in a dark room today. Some person's house. It's awesome. It's awesome. It's really nice.

They were very kind to have us here today too. Well, I think the big thing I like what you guys go do is go see him on tour this year on It Ain't Right. This is, listen, of all him, hey, this is the funniest dude on the planet. And let me just tell you this. I used to watch him. The reason I asked him to be on the show four or five years ago, and this is who he is, I used to watch these clips that he's referring to

that everybody, the Farton and the Towels thing with Lana and the funniest person I've ever seen in my life. The most talented, I mean, I'll just look, every other comic that's been on that I know this, I think everybody's really funny and then I think there's this dude. And I just think his work is unbelievable. I, he's the best.

He's the goat. And I'm really grateful that I've got to know you because I admire you so much. So, and now that you're a dad and a father, it's gone to a whole new level. So thank you for being here today, brother. I appreciate it. Yeah, man.

Thank you. All right, everybody. Share today's episode. I know you will. This is a special one. Go see Sebastian on tour. Go follow him on social media. God bless you.

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