THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Stage 4 Cancer: Fighting For Your Life w/ Jessie Lee Ward

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

Imagine being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and minimal chance of survival… the most important things come into CLEAR focus when you’re FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE.JESSIE LEE WARD is a social media and marketing guru and one of the top NETWORK MARKETERS IN THE WORLD. In 10 short years, she’s gone from not having enough money to cover her rent to a multiple seven-figure earner who coaches thousands of people on being more successful in their businesses.Jessie has gone from the lowest of lows to the highest of highs in her business life, but all that pales in comparison to her story of fighting STAGE 4 COLON CANCER…an INTENSE PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL BATTLE she’s still waging today.And that’s where we’re going to spend a lot of time this week. JESSIE is going to walk you through what it’s like to be on the inside of a life-changing cancer diagnosis, including…The moment she got her diagnosis at age 34Being told she only had MONTHS TO LIVECoping with bad moments and dealing with the question of “WHY ME?”FORGIVENESS, ANGER, and the EXTREME FEELINGS Jessie deals with dailyHer complicated relationship with her mother before and after her diagnosisHow to not become your diagnosis and extending your quality of lifeJessie’s NUTRITION SHIFT and other experimental routinesWhat really MATTERS MOST when you’re faced with a cancer diagnosisMy interview with Jessie is one of the most moving conversations I’ve ever had. You’ll be inspired by how much HEART, COURAGE and PRACTICAL POSITIVITY she continues to display as she battles her diagnosis.By the end of the hour, like me, you’ll be rooting hard for Jessie Lee Ward to BEAT CANCER and praying for her every step of the way.

This is the Ed Milage Show. Welcome back to the show, everybody. Today's tone of the show is a little bit different because I think it's maybe one of the most important, if not the most important, show that I've done. And the reason for that is, I want you to imagine for a second and you've probably imagined it. Getting maybe the worst, most shocking news of your life and something that can scare you, something that may end or take your life. You've all pictured that moment where you get a diagnosis.

But what if that diagnosis was stage four cancer and you're told that you have six months, maybe a year, eight months to live. And you're in the prime of your life. You're in your 30s when you get that news. What would that feel like? What would your emotions be? How would it impact the people around you? How would it change you? And I have somebody sitting across from me that I've grown to love very much.

She's a woman that I started coaching. She pays me the big bucks to coach her. And as I got to know her, well, I found out how talented she was. She's a seven figure earner in different businesses. She influences millions of people on social media. And just as we got going to take her career to any other level, she got some shocking news

that was completely unexpected. And so I want to share her story and her emotions with you today because I think it's relevant to you and all your lives and it'll give you perspective. So Jesse Lee Ward, also known as Boss Lee on Instagram. Welcome to the show. Thanks Ed. I'm excited to be here. I'm already crying. So great. This is going to be awesome. I think it's you going. So let's go right to it. Everybody has that fear of I've got cancer and it's stage four. It's metastasized. I want to know because we've decided we're going to be very open today to affect people's lives. Yeah.

Take us through how it even happened that you heard the news and then what that moment was like and what does it feel like in your life when you actually get that news? Yeah, so I think I never actually thought about what that would be like for me. I was 34 at the, I'm still 34, but I definitely thought about it for other people or people that I loved or I watched some of my family members go through Cancer but not die from it necessarily, but just kind of seeing people get sick before and I never actually thought about it for me Or what that would look like and maybe that's why I got side-sliped the way I did and it really humbled me near I mean immediately it brought me to my knees. I

It really humbled me nearly immediately. It brought me to my knees. I actually went and did a full body MRI and a gallery grail test because Tony Robbins said too in life force. But also just because I thought I was in the best shape in my life. What you were. It really was.

I went on a health journey starting in May of 2022. I was intentionally losing weight. So it didn't feel super fast to me. It was 20 pounds or something in nine months. It wasn't anything crazy where you'd be like, oh no, something, you know, something's wrong. And now when I look back at some photos, I can see that I was a bit gonged in my eyes. I was getting a little bit too sunken in. I was getting a little too skinny, but I felt incredible. And I've always been a top performer and high achiever. And I know a lot of these people listen felt incredible. And I've always been a top performer and high

achiever. And I know a lot of these people listen to you. So I hope they start saying, oh gosh, maybe I should do some of these tests because, yeah, I woke up tired some days. And for sure, I pushed myself past points of maybe exhaustion, if you will, in order to hit a goal. But I never thought anything was wrong. So I went and got these tests done. And I thought, I really thought I was going to get the MRI back and it was going to be like, oh, look, I can brag about this and look at these blood tests and look at all this stuff because I've been doing blood tests quarterly for a while. And instead of that, it just came back, red, big red flag right in my stomach, which ended up being metastasized lymph nodes. And then in my

lower right colon area right at the seacum where the small and large intestine attached were tumors. And then the gallery grill test comes back. I'm actually flying back from Bahamas when we get that news and it says, yeah, colon cancer has been detected. And then a colonoscopy and all this stuff. And it makes you realize how fragile life is. It makes you realize everything you thought you knew, maybe wasn't true.

And it makes you realize how precious the people that matter really are, what matters and what doesn't matter. It put my whole life in perspective and boom. I mean, seconds. And it's been a journey. You know this, but I was told I would be dead most likely in October. They told me there's no way I'm going to see Christmas, which I was just sharing the story earlier with somebody, but I was talking about how amazing you've been through all

of this. And I said, I sent that text when they sent me the doctor so that to me to three people. And one was you, and you called me right away. And I remember right where I was. And you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you visualize the biggest Christmas that the live notes come back and all this stuff and which was super useful in the time. But I had to make a decision between, and I'm not telling anyone what to do by the way, do what you feel like is right for you. But to either do really aggressive forms of chemotherapy and potentially live two and

a half years with no quality of life or just attack it and really learn how to heal every single bit of me. And that's the route that I've been taking. We're going to talk about that. I want to go back to you for a second. So just so you guys know, this is a really intense woman. In fact, one of the most intense and driven people I've ever met in my life.

So when we met, we had met a few times, when everyone just had context for this, Jesse Leigh and I had met a few times, like backstage at events, we'd cross each other's paths and speaking, and then it ended up that I ended up, she was in a group that I was coaching, and then we coached one on one. But I remember when we, I didn't know that at my home and she came and I remember thinking,

my gosh, she looks incredible. She looks different. I tell her all the time, I don't know if you're like my daughter or my young sister or what, but you know, I have this affection for her. But I remember thinking to myself, she looks incredible. I mean, the best she's ever looked, even if you see photos of her online, like, it was a major transformation. And I remember commenting on it, I think, even to you and to the group of people, too, how great you looked.

And then it was not that long after that this happened. And I remember, for me, it took my breath away because I'm thinking, this is a beautiful person and they're woman in the prime of her life at 34 years old. And a million years, I was not expecting that phone call from you. What is it like when what happens in your body? I think everybody would like, they fear this moment in their life. And you've now had, I think the some, in an odd way, the blessing of experiencing it, meaning that we're going to bless millions of people today,

that have never actually talked to someone live who's's like my life is in jeopardy right now. I had this amazing life. I'm a millionaire I'm traveling. I'm beautiful. She had recently met a guy that she's super crazy about and Wham in that moment does it does it take your breath away? Do you do you have a flood of your life before your eyes? What what actually happens to you? I'm curious in that moment. What what went through your life before your eyes? What actually happens to you? I'm curious in that moment. What went through your body and your mind? I think everyone's different, but for me, it wrecked me. You would never know being your friend.

You're so strong, okay? Thank you. I am, but I have a lot of moments. I say this a lot of time, I don't have bad days, but I have that moment. And when somebody's going through something like this. It's like you I am an intense person and I have been a control freak my whole life because of childhood stuff and just I was forced into leadership positions that are really young age and So I've always been the person where when anything is bad. It's like oh, it's no problem

I can work harder or I can make more money or I can find the resources or no matter what I'm just not going to give up. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And all of a sudden, I realized how completely out of control I was. I realized this is not just you slap a bandaid on it. And even going into surgery, you know, any, I guess anybody who has cancer or diagnosed with cancer will tell you this. You're so, I was so hopeful. I look back at the posts of that day in February when I chose to have the surgery to remove part of the colon in the tumor and some 30 lymph nodes surrounding it, which 26 had cancer in it.

And I remember making the post about just knowing, oh gosh, I know that the surgeons' hands are going to be protected by God, and I'm gonna get out of this, and it's gonna be amazing, and I'm gonna show people you could, and no, no, Jesse Lee, that's literally not what happened. Like what happened instead is pathology comes back, it's 26 out of 30 lymph nodes, it's metastasized,

and we're staging you at stage four, because it's in your throat, it's in your neck, it's in your stomach. It's like everything you thought you could control, you can't. And it was especially frustrating because I was already on a health journey. So then it's kind of this smack in the teeth of, you know, and I'm an emotional person anyway.

The first time we had that one-on-one kind of coaching thing, I'm a little bit more anyway, but I've never cried, the way I've cried. I've never been so emotional about things and you start learning your triggered by stuff. You start noticing, even today I'm driving an LA and there's a sign about cancer. Why? I don't know.

You know, it's like, why is this stupid sign here? Why is it a theme in so many movies? Things you don't under, you don't think about until you're in a situation like this and then it's the loudest thing. Your raz is so activated. My particular activating system, it's like think of a red car, okay? What do you're in a situation like this and then it's the loudest thing. Your raz is so activated. My particular activating system, it's like think of a red car.

Okay, what do you think of a red car? Every single thing, it's all over. And I just think. Do you think about, do you think about like why is this me? Does that come up? Yeah, for sure. Because I felt like you said I was,

I'm in the prime of my life and I felt like, wow, I'm not married. I don't have kids and I felt like, wow, I'm not married. I don't have kids. I texted you this too. I'm not married. I don't have kids. I don't like, where is my legacy aside from all these people I've helped in business? And the lives I've changed through that, what am I going to do?

I have, what is going on? Why me? And then I started thinking, oh my gosh, it's powerful. This is actually really powerful. Sure, sure, why me? But then I actually started dissecting my life or things that happened to me. And I started realizing, okay, so if your body, everyone has cancer in them, by the way. You can read this anywhere.

This is not me trying to scare anybody. Everybody has cancer cells in them. It's whether they're activated or not, that it turns into something that can kill you. Okay? So everyone should know that to begin with. Everyone has gene mutations. It's a term, whether they turn on or not is dependent on your environment. It's dependent on circumstances. It's dependent on a bunch of stuff. Well, a bunch of gene mutations of mine have turned on and the cancer cells in my body decided to turn on. Okay? So with that knowledge, then I went, okay, well, if I've helped to create this,

as weird as that might sound, well, then how can I heal from this? And that became really empowering for me, because I then made a decision that I'm just going to change everything. My whole life has to change, and I got a lot of clarity from that, instead of worrying so much about things, I said, okay, well, there's a lot I can't control, but maybe there is more that I can control

than I realized. And so I decided to feel everything. And I'll actually share something on this podcast, nobody on Earth knows, but it's happening tomorrow. So I'll tell you, I would tell you anyway. But forgiveness was one of my biggest things. I started reading a lot more about some of the ways things like this happen. Again, you know, why me, why me, why me?

Well, I have not forgiven, even though I've said I've forgiven things. The anger and the grief and the sadness and the trauma and all this stuff from my childhood that has turned, it's turned me into who I am in a business sense, so I'm not mad about it, but I have not actually released it. And I can say online and in my speeches and in all the stuff that I do, you know, oh no, I'm, oh, you know, that's in the past. And I've released it and all the right stuff to say. But if I'm going to be real with your listeners, I can forgive.

And I certainly didn't forget. And if you brought up a topic that really bothered me, I was the first to be like, yeah, let me tell you about it. I told you all about it. You know, and that's not, it's not useful. And so forgiveness has been one of the biggest things. And yeah, why me? Maybe because I grew up in a super toxic environment.

And maybe because I didn't have the greatest nutrition. And maybe because, you know, I put myself in situations of stress all the time time because I liked it. I like achievement, but I also realized that, of course, it wasn't gonna be a cancer where, and there's no good cancer, so don't misunderstand me, but it wasn't gonna be a cancer where you just cut it out. It was gonna be a cancer where it's aggressive,

just like me, and me healing from this is going to show a lot of people a lot of amazing things It's gonna give a lot of people a lot of hope and it's gonna probably give people Their control back over their bodies and their minds and then they're not what are you doing tomorrow? You didn't finish that. Okay, so finish it Okay, so for anyone who's already followed me on social media, I've written many posts about it. I've talked about it a whole bunch of times. I essentially had a funeral from my mom five years ago.

My mom's alive. But she put us through situations as children that just never made sense to me. Like, we were in danger all the time. And I don't mean like, oh, you're like, okay, so she grew up not with a lot of stuff. I mean, like we were physically in danger a lot. And then there was, there were five, it was five years ago at Christmas.

I went and saw her anyway, you know, because I was always trying to like, okay, like, like, you're supposed to have a mom, you're supposed to have a mom, you're supposed to forget, you're supposed to do whatever. And on Christmas, I'm not trying to like, okay, like you're supposed to have a mom, you're supposed to have a mom, you're supposed to forgive, you're supposed to whatever. And on Christmas, I'm not gonna cuss, because it's cussing, but two times on Christmas Eve in front of all her friends, she said,

she yelled at me that I was a stupid, effing bit. Yeah. And I walked out and that was just my final straw. I was like, I've got a set of boundary around this. I can't do this anymore. She makes me feel terrible. She's drinking too much. I don't know if she's on drugs. I don't around this. I can't do this anymore. She makes me feel terrible. She's drinking too much. I don't know if she's on drugs.

I don't know. I can't do it anymore. And so I had a funeral for somebody I loved, and I just said I'll never talk to her again. And when all this was happening, I don't know. Again, cancer or maybe any of these serious things that people are going through, it doesn't have to be cancer. Maybe it's some kind of other disease

or life circumstance. I have these weird epiphany that come to me. And they're just these guided moments of intuition maybe, or spirit, or whatever you want to call them. And it's almost like the Holy Spirit's whispering. There you go. I don't know how else to explain it. And I woke up one day, and I went, I haven't eaten remotely, to explain it and I woke up one day and I and I went

I haven't even remotely forgiven my mom Like I've cut her off, but I think about her all the time still like there is like there is a deep cord there and And so I This saffon Barcelona about six weeks ago. I wrote her an email and I wrote her an an email and I just said, well, yeah, I haven't held any on this. I said, hey, mom, I'm writing this because I need closure and I don't know if you do too. And I went through it and I came from such a place of compassion.

And I just said, I can't imagine being in your shoes and trying to do what you did. You were pregnant with me at the exact age I am. And you were a successful woman. She was an assistant CEO at the National Academy of Sciences. She just was really bad with money. So we did not have anything and there was just being, who knows where all the money went.

So I guess you never really know that when you were a kid, but she was brilliant and we just never had anything. And I said, I can't imagine what it would be like if me in this moment right now It's successful as I am because I'm super successful mom like I don't think you even know how successful I am Cuz I'd block her everywhere so I don't know I guess you could Google me but you have no idea If you told me no now it's time to have a family It's time to settle down. It's time to get married again and have kids and do all these things and take the parts of me that I that are just mine just mine and say you don't you can't have that anymore

And so I just gave her compassion. I told her about this is really deep. Something's gonna be mad in the family I say this if they listen, but I have 14 first cousins I have a lot of aunts and uncles. It's a big family. Tons of, there's tons of grandkids, great grandkids, all this stuff. Not a single person, not a single family member, reached out. I talk to my big brother about it every talk every day and aside from that, there's no one. And I even run that email to her. I said, how can I expect you to be this compassionate, kind caring super maternal loving mother When no one in our family is like that and so I just and I told her I thanked her for things None of it was it was not an accusatory email the whole thing was loving it was my work ethics from you

My brains are from you My ability to pick stuff up boom and learn it and just attack stuff is you I know it's you And I just gave her I I gave her her flowers. And I just said, you know, I just, I'm not, I haven't forgiven you and I needed to send this so that I can. So I can heal because I need to heal and then move on. And I never expected an email back the next day. She wrote, she wrote an email back and I read it two a.m. in Barcelona, a big mistake couldn't sleep. And it just said, I mean, I won't, the whole we know doesn't matter, but the opening line is really powerful, she said, Jesse Lee, I don't need closure from you, I need my daughter.

And I was like, come on, you know, like, and it was just beautiful email she wrote back, and we chatted back and forth a couple of days, and I just said, and she even said, like, I would just jump on a plane To be anywhere you are. I said well right now I'm in Barcelona ahead to Germany tomorrow So maybe don't come to plane today, but I bought her a flight and she'll be in Dallas tomorrow with me. So I'm so proud of you Yeah, so proud of you Sorry, I Think one of it. I'm just so proud of you. I um, you know everybody, you don't

have to have a stage 4 cancer diagnosis to learn from her perspective and her wisdom. That's why I wanted her here today. You can start making these decisions right now. And that's why it's important to put somebody in front of you who is going through this. You're just such a remarkable human. And what's amazing about you and adversity like this is when you're special and you are special and all of you that are listening are special. When you get through something like this, it reveals the extra special in you. If you all went back and look at Jesse Lee's post from four, five, six years ago, you just see this boss Lee just bad ass woman. And this is brought out. It was

already coming out, but it's brought out these beautiful sides of your personality of who you really are. And I'm so grateful that you did that. And I'm so grateful that people get to hear this today. I'm so grateful that you did that and I'm so grateful that people get to hear this today because most people live like they're never going to die. If you're listening to this, you're under the illusion. Most people are like in your conscious mind, you go, I'm going to die someday, but you actually don't live like it. You actually don't, you believe everybody else is going to die, not you. And what I wanted to happen today with Jesse because she's so articulate as well,

is to actually make you really face this right now because she's facing it right now. And, and what would you do if you were facing it right now? Who would you call? Who would you make amends with? What could you be doing right now to get healthier, which we're going to talk about in a minute? Let me just just this at the stage just so you all know, this is a woman who's worth a fortune. She's made seven figures for a very long time in multiple different businesses in network marketing and brick and mortar businesses. She has 1.6 million clients worldwide, by the way, in one of her businesses, 41 different countries. She's one of the top female speakers in the world. And with all of that, she's telling you

that her perspective has changed. She gets this diagnosis she has the surgery and the next day is our coaching call and she's in her hospital bed with a laptop doing the coaching call with me and that wasn't her only meeting that day. I want you to imagine that. You got what was it?

10 inches of your colon removes? It might let us say that removes it might let's say that 10 to 15 plus this tumor the whole thing together. And the next day she's on a call with me. How you doing? She's pumping me up on the call. She's pumping me up from the hospital bed. That's the type of extraordinary woman that we're talking about here today. So start to ask yourself, how would you respond? How would you react? And I want to ask you a couple things. I don't want you to be honest with me and then I want to talk about some business stuff too. Are you afraid you're going to die? From this, no. And I don't think I fear death anymore, like maybe I used to. You've heard it, everyone's heard it. Oh, you know, live like you're dying. I was thinking that Tim agro on yeah, I was literally thinking about 24 seconds ago

Seabirds aligned or you know, they say oh every day is not guaranteed okay all of these things are true But you really realize what you're saying when you say that the answer for most of you listening is absolutely not no There's a million ways I've changed because of this But when I say I'm grateful every day and I used to code people, oh, I do a gratitude walk every morning, which I do. I have four years, right? It's just part of what I do. Or go in the afternoon and pray out loud.

I've taught all these things forever. It is different when you actually realize every day's not promised. It is very different when you go, a full breath. It's completely different when your stomach doesn't hurt because you take these things for granted. It's different when you notice how beautiful

a sunset actually is or the way I am present with people now. And I was always good with relationships. That's been one of my superpowers for a long time. Now and I'm with people, it's quality times to a completely different level. And so it's not like this fear of dying, it's or thinking I'm dying, it's knowing that every moment is actually precious. And how much time can you, how much good quality time and experiences can you cram into every

day of every moment? Instead of just, I feel like most people are just these ships that pass each other. We, oh yeah, I hung out with so-and so yeah, I spent time with Ed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw each other at that, that, that event or whatever. But did you, did you actually see him? Did you actually feel him? Did you pay attention to his energy? Did you actually connect?

Did you have a real moment or was it just, oh yeah, I was there? Because most of us are every day, yeah, I was there because most of us are everyday? Yeah, I was there. Yeah, I went to work. Yeah, I drove home Most of you don't even remember how you drive home because it's the same routine over and over again Like I feel like I've realized that the jessie Lee version 1.0. She's she's dead Who I used to be she's gone She has to be because she's the one who created this illness,

this disease, right? Do you believe that? Yeah. I want to ask you a question about that. By the way, what you're saying is just absolutely brilliant and you are smart, but you aren't this smart and this is the Holy Spirit speaking through you. This is infinite wisdom.

I say all the time that when we pray or we talk to whoever you believe in, you're talking to God or your maker, and when you get this infinite wisdom, this discernment, this intuition, these words that aren't yours, that's God speaking back to you. And that's what's happening with you. And I, I just curious, do you, would you change something in your previous life, meaning was going for it like you and I have gone for it in our life, all it's correct that to be because let's just be real. Part of the success you've built is affording you the way you're being treated right now. Which you have gone for. You can be too far open about that a little bit if you'd like to say.

I want to do that. So I want to ask you first is, now that you're 34, you've got this diagnosis. So, and by the way, she was literally told, you won't be here for Christmas. She was literally told that, which by the way, nice doctoring, by the way, nice medical bedside manner, which we'll talk about in another part of the interview coming up. Having said that though, would you still have gone for like a crazy person, but maybe enjoyed it a little bit more? Or do you feel like some of the accolades and awards

and all that was overcooked? And I'm really curious because I'm still that guy too. I was like, I'm going, my intuition is I should be going, but I should have a little bit more of an observer and be present as I'm doing it. Because I absolutely relate to what you just said about. I was there, but was I there? Yeah, it's what you just said.

So it's, I don't think I would feel as fulfilled as a person if I could look back on it right now and go, gosh, I really should have done more. Because I really feel like I've been all gas, no breaks. For a long, long time, and I'm super proud of my accomplishments and I look back on things like, wow, I'm really glad that I'm so thankful that happened. I'm grateful for that opportunity.

Wow, thank goodness I said yes. But I was also a yes man to everything. So this is a cool new stage where I've been saying, yes, the only things I really wanna say yes to, which I wish I had done sooner with some things. Just because you know, there's opportunities you've taken, I'm sure where you go, this is just not gonna be it, but I'm just gonna do it

because I feel like what if me, what if maybe one, because we hear that in person development. Like what if the one per-a-a-a? Because we hear that in personal development. Like, what if the one person? I did way too much stuff where it was that and just, you know, running myself ragged. But it's really, I'm not, I'm really, I wouldn't do anything differently, no.

Because all of this is playing out exactly how I supposed to. It's not my plan. And if you really believe in a higher power, you believe in God like we do, no, this is how it's supposed to be. I'm supposed to be the example. I'm supposed to be the big voice.

I'm supposed to already have the following the platform that I do. So that I save so many more lives. So that I show so many more people a different way. It's really important. It is the way it is. But I wish in those moments, because I've won every word there is

for what I've done. Anything I touch, it's like, oh, invest in Jesse Lee, because it's gonna turn gold. She does it. Oh my gosh, she did that. Wow, like, I'm always the top performer. because it's gonna turn gold. You know, she does it. Oh my gosh, she did that. Wow, like, I'm always the top performer. Yeah, I told her when I met her, I said, if you were a stalk, I would buy you.

Because she's going up. And also, by the way, you said something I wanna finish on though. So neither one of us are medical doctors, although you're a lot more like one than I am now, because of all the medical care you've gone through. But you did say something that I want everyone to evaluate.

You said you created this meaning, and I think I know what you mean, all the stress, all the trauma, all the reliving the trauma, all the holding onto it, all the intensity pointed in the right direction makes a lot of awards and a lot of money, intensity and the other direction can do harm. And I was actually asking,

you came up last week, my mom asked me how you were doing because I've told my mom about you. And we were talking about my dad's cancer. My dad still, my dad wasn't 34 my gosh, but my dad died young relatively speaking. And I said, mom, do you think dad's trauma that he held on to from his upbringing and his stress in my dad was this tremendous warrior? I inherited that from my dad. Most things with our kids are caught not taught.

I always say, I caught that from my dad, Most things with our kids are caught not taught. I always say, I caught that from my dad, worrying and anxiety. And something to be around my dad, he's just like, ah, like a sigh for no reason, you know? And I said, mom, do you think that maybe that brought some of this on or turned those jeans on sooner, the stress and the anxiety and the worry? And my mom said, absolutely 100% yes.

And I'm wondering, is that what you meant by that you brought some of us on? Yeah, and I know I don't want to trigger any cancer patients or anything or survivors or anything who go, what? Like I didn't create this because the cancer world's interesting. There's some people who think cancer is the worst thing that ever happened to them

and there's some people who think cancer is the best thing that happened to them. And I will tell you, I am in the second camp. And that freaks people out when I say that. It's what she said. What? She said cancer's the best thing ever. Nothing was gonna slow me down, Ed.

Nothing. You, nothing. You just said I did a coaching call from a hospital bed. Nothing was gonna make me go, let's chill out a little bit. I don't, you know, I just, it had to happen. I needed to smell the roses a little. But yeah, what I mean when I say I created this is, I was always running ragged.

I was, you know, sleep was not the priority. The goals were the priority. The changing other people's lives was the priority. The helping others and always extending an extra hand and not taking care of myself. Your own pleasure and enjoyment wasn't the priority either. No, never. Right.

And I think even in this season of cancer and everything, I am enjoying way more. And I don't mean because I'm saying no to things. It's part of is that presence thing. And I'm still competitive. I really still don't know anybody who can outsell me right now even like, good luck. Like I'm still speaking all over the place, crushing it. Yeah. It's yes to stuff I want,

no to things I don't want. And so it goes back to all these high pressure things that I would put myself in and just, you know, you have the toxic situations. And again, the no forgiveness. My mom was not the only person I didn't forgive. There's plenty of people that I did not forgive that I've had, that I, you know, gosh,

this is, I get, it's almost like, I feel like I've been in a, you know, it's like one of the steps of AA, like it forgive people. I'm really having to work on me as a person. And so the changes in Jesse Lee as an actual human being have been profound since February. It's not, they're not little changes. There have always been a kind person.

I'm even more patient in kind now, which is a different kind of kindness. Right? It's just, it'll completely, it just changes everything. Okay. So you, by the way, I just want to say something. I'm not a doctor either, but I think there's a power to saying I created this. And so I can fix it. I think you can power that. And even if you're not in that camp and you've, and you've had a disease, I think we would all agree that worrying and anxiety and anxiety and anger or frustration isn't healthy.

So it certainly isn't helping things when we're that way. Well, I actually, I don't want to cut you off, but I asked my doctor in Germany two weeks ago because he was looking over my blood work and Germans are very direct. So he goes, oh, disaster. Oh, great. You need to meet in a bad way. He just said, yeah, don't worry. We can fix all of this, but look, Mr. Disaster.

Is it okay? And I said, well, I have a question then. When you see other patients that their blood work is this bad, do they look like me? Yeah. Do they move like me? Do they move like me? Do they? Because I'm not in pain and not in any of these things. He goes, absolutely not. He said, but you have the strongest mindset I've ever met.

And a lot of this health stuff is mindset over all of it. Yes, I have to treat all of it, but you have a belief system that you're going to win this. And a lot of people don't. And I know Dr. Joe dispends a way more than I do, right? But even things like, don't become your diagnosis. You hear, oh well, with cancer I'm supposed to be really tired and I'm supposed to be really, you know,

whatever, all these things. I'm supposed to look a certain way, walk a certain way, I gotta stop doing all these things. I just didn't look up, I just didn't get on Google. Yeah. I just didn't become a diagnosis. I said, oh wait, I remember walking out of my colonoscopy. And I said, Hey, you know, doc, by the way, what stage do you think this is? He goes, I mean, it's at least three because I can see it's, it's, it's in your lymph nodes too. Like everything

swollen down there. I said, Oh, okay. Okay. Stage three. Okay. No, okay. No problem. And I just kind of walked out like, I don't even really know what that means But I'm not gonna let this ruin my good mood. I'm gonna move forward We're not gonna jump to conclusions. I'm not gonna get on web MD and find out what what what you know And it's not to say like sometimes I'll be like well Whatever and I told you earlier I asked my doctor. Hey, why are my lymph nodes a little swollen in my neck and my stomach feels like maybe? And he said, oh, I'm so excited. Your immune system's kicking on. This is your immune system working again.

Like, oh, that's what this is. Okay, because Google said for sure, I'm a goner, you know. I love this new guy, by the way, that you're working with. And by the way, everyone, I want to just interject and then we're going to talk about diagnosis and we're going to talk some business too. But I want to say one thing to you,

about diagnosis and we talk some business too. But I want to say one thing to you. You know, the attitude that you've brought to this, I really believe, is the differentiator. And she is, by the way, we've decided kind of through coaching that she is documenting her journey here. So if you don't follow her on social media, we're going to, it's going to be an actual documentary, the whole entire thing, the journey of what she's going through. And I'm just so proud of the way that you've brought your mindset to this because, you know, so many people that are listening to this right now have a challenge that they're worried about. And if anything happens to everybody, this should be one big perspective builder for you. Because whatever you're going through right now, more than likely, it's not quite as

significant as what Jesse Lee is going through right now. Maybe it just gives you perspective that, hey, just disagreement, I'm in with my spouse or this bill or I lost my job. Hey, this is a woman who was told you're not gonna make it to Christmas and I wanna go to that part of it now too. Talk a little bit about the different bedside manners of the doctors, you don't need to name them,

but I'm aware of them. And then what you've chosen to do for treatment, part of what you've chosen to do for your treatment, obviously you can afford, but I'd be curious as to your advice. And we're not by the way making what she's going to do is tell you the recommendations she's made for herself, which by the way, about 50% of the people that you know are like you're crazy to be doing it this way, right? And 50% of the doctors like, oh my gosh, you should have been in chemo immediately. So by no means are either one of us making a recommendation of what you should do,

but this is Jesse Lee's story, her journey, her decisions, her experience that I wanna share with you. So to the diagnosis point of the one guy that we both, you know, in Texas guy, to a few other things, just take them through that a little bit. So just to give people perspective, I've been to eight oncologists.

So this is not one oncologist, two oncologists, this is not whatever. Some are integrative oncologists, the rest are your traditional practitioners, so two integrative and then six are your normal, okay, you go to Texas oncology and whatever, okay? And so immediately, so there's, here's a deal. I don't judge any doctors at all period and of discussion, because ultimately when you think about it, to become a doctor that is a well-known oncologist and I was only going

to well-known oncologist just because of resources and who I am. Thank God. If you think about it, this person has gone to medical school for 12 years. Everything they know is traditional standard of care. This is what they're taught, period. You're not supposed to think outside the box. It's not the goal. The goal is standard of care.

Chemotherapy and immunotherapy is really big business. You can, and this is not, this is not opinion. You can just Google this if you want to or you can look into whatever. So I don't have, and then to become a well-known oncologist, that means you're practicing for decades. These are not young spring chickens, you know, in their 20s or something that I'm going to see. These are older gentlemen who have been practicing for decades. Just in your case, it happened to me, gentlemen, we're probably going to be talking about

this. Correct. And then for this women too, in my case, it was just gentlemen. And so for 30, 40 years, this is what you know. You know full foxin of Austin. You know chemo therapy. This is, you know that the average lifespan for a diagnosis like mine is two and a half years.

That's it. And that's if you do the most intense. And then you ask, is this for a cure? Or are you trying to keep me alive? Oh, I'm sorry, there's no cure. Every single last one of them. So I went to so many oncologists because, yeah, you know what? Maybe I was a little bit of a hope seeker where I just wanted somebody to say, maybe not. Maybe you're going to be okay. And instead of that, it was the constant, you know,

do this. Do this. It's the chemo. It's the chemo. And so, after the surgery is step one, and then chemo is step two. And so, I would just ask each of them, I'd say, so if I do nothing, according to them, not nothing, but if I do nothing, no standard of care, what's the prognosis? And some doctors do not play God, which I really appreciate. There was one doctor in particular who it was the most devastating moment of the entire journey. It wouldn't even look me in my eyes, by the way, faces down like this and he goes, you'll be dead in six months, October, October. You're definitely not seeing Christmas.

No. And then he said, but if you do the most intense versions of chemo, we're just going to blast you. We can probably get you two and a half years, then you'll be dead. This is quote unquote, thank God I come on my best friend there. I'm FaceTime and my boyfriend at the time. I talked to you right after. And yes, I talked to you immediately after.

And I said, and I black out actually, because I think your brain has a way of protecting you from trauma. My brain just knew, no. And I black out, thank God, best friend starts talking. And I just remember going, I'm not normal. So I think I'm ever saying. And I said, and then I, my manager to say, so you're telling me that I can have two and a half years

with no quality of life. Or I can try to heal. Is really what my brain started hearing in that moment. And thank God I heard it like that because then it was an immediate decision to change. I was already starting to add stuff, but it was an immediate overhaul. It was a nutrition overhaul. It was a, I mean, I can start listing things that I do on a daily, weekly basis and some I will actually.

I want to do that. But let me say one thing about it. I want to just interject. I want to be clear with what we're saying here too, just for responsibility. She's stage four, an incredibly aggressive type of cancer. So in her own situation, the chemo factor versus extending life by maybe 18 months, but no quality of life versus six months. So by no means is either one of us saying no chemotherapy.

If you get cancer, there's people listening right now that go, I did chemotherapy or radiation and I'm cancer-free and I'm in remission. So we're not saying that. We're talking about her situation right here. But no doubt, even if you were to do that, some of the things you're doing nutritionally, unquestionably are smart things to be doing. So what are they? And I do appreciate you saying that because it's really true. I'm not trying to bash standard of care and I'm not trying to make anybody feel like traditional oncology is not the way I'm not trying to make anybody feel like traditional oncology is not the way I'm not trying to make doctor feel like I'm anti doctor. I'm certainly not I'm under the And in that doctor's case my gosh to be able to look at other human being in the eye and go

You're gonna be dead and say now to say you're gonna be dead in six months is probably crass the way that he said it But that's a difficult news for these people to have to deliver to people as well. Right, and he does it all day Probably you imagine a, or something. So, he's carrying, so I'm super empathetic towards his job and everything. And all of the oncologists that said similar things, you got to start human now, now, now, now. But I would like people to also know it's not as rushed

as they make it seem for most people. So it gets really scary if we're being honest. It seems like this is a really fast growing cancer. And I would say, how do you know? Well, we don't know, but I just want more information, right? But please just do what's right for you. And one of the biggest things is, you know, just follow, like, please follow your intuition,

follow your guidance, use the word discernment earlier. And I wanted to say, that's really the right word. You will, if you pray for discernment, you will get it. You have to learn to listen to yourself during all of this. And that's, that's really the right word. You will, if you pray for discernment, you will get it. You have to learn to listen to yourself during all of this. And that's what I've gotten out of. During everything you do.

Everything. Yeah. So what are you doing? What are you doing different than you're the nutrition? So. And what are you doing for your treatment? Yeah. We are not telling your true story

if we don't tell them actually what you're doing. They're going to follow you on this journey. Yeah. So tell them what's up. Yeah, it's pretty intense. So I went from pretty much carnivore to immediately vegan. So all the juicing, I bought the best juicer ever. I did all the research on that. I'm not even, and when I say juicing, I'm not saying like, I'm a delicious juicing

in the morning. I'm talking eight to 12 juices a day. So almost on the hour, I'm just overdosing my body in nutrition, which is making my hair grow really long and shiny. So it's, you know, you know, like there's benefits to this. But it's quite the shift, right? I feel like I'm starting a greenhouse in my refrigerator, but that's been unbelievable. I'm no longer doing vegan because my doctor that I'm under care now with really loves keto. And that is also because the cancer, completely different, the cancer that decided to reside in my body and grow through blood tests is the only reason we know this.

I don't know what the blood test is off the top of my head, but the cancer that is living in me or was, I don't know, maybe it's gone, is feeding off of sugars. And it was proven through a blood test. He said some cancers are growing on proteins, some cancers are growing on carbohydrates and sugars, some cancers are growing, you know, whatever. I said, oh, okay, and he said, don't even touch it. Don't touch carbohydrates. You have to be keto.

He started talking about the oils in my body, my, my laundry, a health and all this stuff. So immediate nutrition shift, still juicing, but now it's all these green juices. So they're not as yummy as like the carrot and apple and the delicious, whatever. But I don't care at this, you know, whatever. That's the easiest thing. The juice I've got pretty much down to a science. But every day, hyperbaric chamber,

I actually have one in my house, thank God. I also have a biocharger in my house, which you guys can check out. It's a crazy energy shifting machine, which is super cool. I use grounding mats as well, constantly, because I do live in a penthouse, so I don't not on the ground with my feet in the ground.

And you're on the beach. You can get in the beach, get yourself down it, and you can get in the ground. It's just so important for your health in general. I do ozone at least four times a week, which they actually take your blood out, and they're spinning it, and they're cleaning it, and then putting it back in.

I also do a hocket ozone which is basically this chamber where your entire body's inside, you're getting ozone, you're getting infrared, you're also getting hypothermia so you're getting overheated as well. All in this chamber where just your head is out and it pulls it's so cool and gross. You see all these toxins come out of you every single time. Totally. It's really cool. I do. This isn't one's really important. Very high dose vitamin C three times a week. And that's what's been killing off a lot of a lot of stuff. I also have a lot of other infusions as well that I've been doing in Germany. I do red light therapy of the bed. I get in a bed at least five times a week if not every day. Gosh, okay what else? I know I'm missing things. There's more.

And wait, there's more now. I do cold plunges now, which I actually I don't know. So what are these things? So by the way, this is her journey, her way of care for her, with this six-month diagnosis, everybody. What are these things will you do when the cancer's gone? In other words, is some of it just for the cancer or once the cancer's gone or had you never had cancer based on what you've learned, some of those protocols, I assume you still would be, I bet you'd still be doing red light, you still be doing cold plunge. Would you be doing hyperbaric? Would you still be doing more of those things? There are some things I would do for sure. One, I didn't mention and it's my favorite

and it's going to be so weird. So I Started doing coffee enemas about three months ago and I was told years ago to do these And I thought that is the weirdest thing ever. I'm not doing that no way and I even bought the kid's friend It was sitting and I think I threw it away six months ago or something the irony the first time I did one I slept like I mean a teenager Yes, yeah, you might have parasites, so it might be weird. Why would you say I have them? You seem kind of buggy. No, I'm kidding.

Thank you very much. Thank you. But a lot of it. You look right at me. You probably have parasites. Thank you. That's what I do. Do you do that now?

You look at me like a parasite. I look like I have parasites. You don't actually look like a parasite. But I get like the, it's instant mental clarity. Okay. Well, almost that too, I can't care. But I get the instant mental clarity. Well, almost like, wow, this is crazy instantly. And digestion takes the most energy out of everything that you do when you're cleaning the entire lower third out of your colon. And then after that I go to, I actually have at my house, and ozone simply, O2 makes

an ozone machine for your home. So I have an oxygen tank and everything. I do rectal ozone after it as well. I would use a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot of fun. But I would never change that. I would never stop red light.

It's amazing. The benefits are just incredible. I really believe in this ozone stuff in your blood. This stuff is crazy. I really think that. Here and more and more and more about it. I'm not willing already to stick my claim on it because I'm really sort of watching through you

and some other people that I know. All right, so someone's listening to this. They've cried their eyes out. They are now looking at their own life differently. They've got a perspective. They've said, man, maybe I need to have forgiveness for this person. Maybe I need to get going and hurry up and win.

Maybe I need to start live like I'm dying to quote the Tim McGraw thing that we've talked about. What would you say to somebody, say, hey, listen, if someone came up to you right now at Starbucks, I said, I heard you on the Ed Mylet show and I, he didn't ask you this or I just curious, what would you say to somebody who says, what is the biggest thing you would impart upon to another person about what you've taken from this that we haven't shared yet. In other words, this is my thing I've got from this that I need people to know.

What would you say? I don't care who you are. I need you to know that you need to do what's best for you. And I mean that in a lot of different ways. I was a people pleaser for sure. I wanted everybody to like me, I think, because I wasn't liked very much when I was younger. So if you were nice to me and then means me, it was okay, it'd still be nice to you. And I think too many of us are living for other people instead of living for ourselves.

And I just wish more people would chase that dream that they really care about, would take those risks that matter a lot to them, would love the person that they know they're supposed to be in love with, or take the big, scary chance that everybody has told them just doesn't make any sense at all and just live their life. Because I look at people all the time and I coach people all the time and I just go, my God, you're not happy. Yeah. Who are you living for? Because when you realize that every day is not guaranteed, you're not worried so much anymore about offending people because of your opinions or your truth. You start realizing that your

authentic self is all that you really need to be. There's so much good going on in the world and we, we as humans, I think, spend so much time, effort and energy on things that just don't matter to us at all, trying to please people we don't even like. And for what? At what cost? So, that's where I wanted to ask you next is stay right on there. So we've talked about what doesn't matter and you just covered one thing that doesn't matter. What else doesn't matter? In other words, pleasing other people and other people's opinions, all of that. Man, what an absolute beautiful truth. What other things? You're faced with this, right? You have this moment of an every one at some point will be faced with something like this.

It may be at 104 years old, and you're an old woman laying in your bed someday, or you're 34 years old in the prime of your life and being healthy, but at some point, you're gonna be faced with this is going, my body will eventually possibly end. What doesn't matter? What else doesn't matter?

Cause I, Matthew McConaughey said on the show, sometimes you gotta just make a list of the things you don't want in your life to get clear on what you do want. and what doesn't matter? What else doesn't matter? Cause I'm Matthew McConaughey said on the show, sometimes you gotta just make a list of the things you don't want in your life to get clear on what you do want. So we know these opinions of other people, by the way, you're just actually, it's something we've always said, but you're living it out, you're like, trust me,

it totally doesn't matter. What else doesn't matter? I know it's a hard question. But what else doesn't matter? I'm curious. Okay, honestly, most stuff does not matter. Most stuff just does not matter. And I wish more people would look at their life and realize that.

The little stuff that drives you crazy, I've said it, everything just gets clear when you have something like this happen. So I used to say, if it's not going to matter in five years, don't give it five minutes. Would you please live that? Yeah. People are so freaked out about the dumbest little things. And I just know you're not going to matter in five years, don't give it five minutes. Would you please live that? People are so freaked out about this, they don't miss little things,

and I just know you're not going to care that there was traffic in LA, because there's always traffic in LA. You know, like 20 minutes from now. So why are you having this huge blowup fight? The arguments you're having with your partner, why? The little things about your kids, why? The stuff that drives you nuts and cr...

None of this stuff really matters. The little tiny sacrifices, I think back on, you know, when I was starting my business, I lived in first and basement and then in a, above a garage, you know, in a roof that's like this and so you couldn't sit up in bed, could you roll out of bed? It was one of those situations.

And I'm like, I remember thinking, God, why am I living here? I need to have something more like, you know, and it pushed me, but I also think back I go, why did I actually care? Yeah. Why did that matter to me?

Why did the, you know what, doesn't matter? Fancy clothes don't matter. Fancy things don't matter unless it brings you joy. The only things in life that actually matter are the stuff that makes you smile. Period, that's it.

Do you love it? Are you happy? Are the people you're spending time around the ones that makes you smile. Wow. Period, that's it. Do you love it? Are you happy? Are the people you're spending time around the ones that you want to? Are the activities you're doing in it is that the hobby you like? Or do you just do it because? No more just doing stuff because,

because that crap doesn't matter. You start looking at life like this moment's precious, this moment's precious, this one's precious. And you chase those instead of things, instead of other people's opinions, instead of any of that stuff. So good. And by the way, for people like you and I, winning is fun. Yes. Right. Winning, achieving, competing, being number one. Seeing what you're capable of. She's not, she's trust me when I tell you.

She's not talking about just sit around and enjoy the moment. She's saying do things you enjoy. If you're a winner, if you're a competitor, go freaking winning, compete because you all all know we love that stuff, right? I like winning more than I like sitting on the beach. I just flat out you do and so do you. I know I do. I've seen you in pickleball too. He's competitive and everything. Well, and by the way, so is she, but you know not so much she's got this diagnosis. She's still speaking my head, she's just goes, I just freaking slayed it. Best talk I've ever given. And she lights up when she talks about that. So, but this is so profound what you've said.

I mean, I just think, sometimes I think when you get threatened with your life, maybe not being here, you accumulate the wisdom you would have gotten at the end of your life anyway. And I think that's one of the blessings that I've seen in you. Now, she's also, by the way, kicked major tail in a bunch of different businesses, right? And there's this side to her that I love that's this bossly side. And I want her to show up here a little bit too, because there's these sides.

There's this reflective kind, gentle forgiving, wise, perspective having, patient, woman that I really love. But there's this other thing, this other being who's like, I'm gonna stomp you. We're gonna win, get off your butt, let's go, and you've pushed people in their lives like you've pushed you. What do you think? Now don't be humble. There's no reason for you to be humble now, right? Let's go and you've pushed people in their lives like you've pushed you. What do you think?

Now don't be humble. There's no reason for you to be humble now, right? So what has made you you? So I remember the first time I spoke, you spoke before me, I think maybe before after me, we crossed each other backstage. And I know when I meet someone that's the it. Like everyone has the it, by the way, but I know when someone's released it in themselves. So I want to be very clear, everybody special, everybody has the it, but I know

when I've met a human being who's released theirs. And I also know when I met somebody who is still suppressing theirs. And the ones who have released it, boy, that's really good. Those of a released it, I magnetized to, I'm just like, whoa. And I knew it immediately. Then the second time, like, there's, she's released it. Her version of her releasing it. So you have that thing. You've unlocked yours. What is it that made you so much more successful

than basically everybody else in the multiple businesses you've done? Now looking back on it, no reason to be humble. We've bearing our soul about some really difficult things today, so tell the truth about that. Yeah, I think I have this fight in me that is ingrained in me from such a young age that I'm just willing to do whatever it takes.

I will not hurt people. That's about where I cross the line. I will not do anything to hurt people. Aside from that, I will dominate you. I really will. It's just, it's not a joke and I'll go and I'll definitely go deep in it. I will never forget when I when we first talked about the diagnosis and I said to you on a coaching call, I said, and I think I need to put boss lead arrest. I think

I need to just kind of chill a little bit and go more into just quiet time and whatever. And I remember seeing your face and you didn't say anything. You went, okay, and I went, maybe that's not. And then I realized, no, boss Lee is the reason I have all of this stuff is, and I don't mean things. I mean, the accomplishments, the accolades, the wealth, the all, because she is an aggressor. She doesn't let people stomp all over her. How am I going to let cancer come in and stomp all over me? Oh no, like actually boss Leeings to show up more than ever.

And so the difference with me, I think, is that when everything crazy happened, and I mean, I'm not going to go into a whole long childhood, whatever, but I would, people want success like ours. And I love how open you've been about things with your dad and your childhood more and more over the last few years, because the way I describe it is, I understand you want our success. But you do not want what we've gone through I understand you want our success. But you do not want what we've gone through. If you want all this success, you've got to trade all of this bad stuff

and you're not willing to trust me. So when I'm nine and I send my dad to jail and I'm raising a crazy domestic violence situation my whole life, I have to get raised by my grandparents because there's no one there. I become the leader of the household then. Physical violence and craziness like you'veiness, like you can't even imagine. We don't have enough food.

We, like, all of this just turmoil, chaos, whatever. I became the leader. And so when people go, you know, in sales as an example, I have never understood why people get so upset about the word no. This one shocks me. And maybe that's why I went to eight oncologists. Come on. Come on.

Come on, it's gotta be fun. Because for me, the first thing somebody tells me is never what I'm going to accept. I don't accept that for me or for my life. So when someone's like, oh, that prospect told me no. I go, well, did your parents tell you yes about everything when you were going up because I was told no always. And I just kept selling myself over and over and over again

to try to get something. Even if it was just, can I stay a little late? No, no, no. You guys would ask for ice cream three times and you'd get a yes. I was always no. So no doesn't hurt me, right? That turned me into this.

So then if I'm getting rejected fine, and also you get scrappy. I'm really scrappy from growing up without resources. So I will find a way. You tell me it's impossible. I don't think so. There's a way. I'm super big on visualizing. Are you talked about touching your dreams? I've been the same way forever. I'll sit in the car. I'll go to the car dealership when I can't afford it before I couldn't afford it. I go look at the private jets and see whatever. I'd look at the big houses spent I was spent I found our first photo. I got to show you you have no idea I met you at 10x was the first time I actually met you way back you would I had bright blue hair

It's craziness, right? So that was me. I do remember that you were heavier than yeah, and I was right blue I remember that I'm dead by the way I've met millions of people. So I often don't remember. I remember that. I paid to be in that VIP section when I really maybe didn't, maybe shouldn't have. And I couldn't, and I really, it's huge, too huge men, like seven feet tall that you got the photo with them

and then Grant rushed you off. And so we have a side photo, but it's our first photo we ever took. And it's like, I. You were standing there when I was taking pictures. I'm going to have pictures. Yeah, exactly. But I would always just insert myself where other people wouldn't,

because people would tell me no. People would say, it's impossible. People would say, you can't have it. You can't do that. Women don't do this. Oh, this is kind of a mens world. I learned investments and negotiation and all this stuff because people told me I wasn't supposed to.

They said, oh, you're just supposed to be this network market. I said, network marketers fail at everything because they're trying to learn how to recruit a bunch of people and then forget about them. I'm going to treat this like a business. And if I learn business skills unlike most people that do things like this, no one's going to be able to touch me.

So it's always been, where's the competitive edge? Learn, and then I'll watch somebody maybe in the business space. That's why I went to 10X, there were no networkers there, right? I went to 10X because I said, Iers there, right? I went to 10X, because I said I need to learn more about businesses, so I can see what they're doing in their traditional business, so I can figure out how to implement that

in this kind of business, before I'd other businesses, right? Because if I do that, then I'm not the first one to do it. I'm the first one to do it the best. The best, yeah. By the way, I'm watching if this is you. So it's interesting.

But you can do this. By the way, you could just feel the the energy a little bit, by the way, the topics different, the energy is different. And Bossly doesn't need to show up to fight this fight as well, right? So there's got to be both. I want to tell you one thing. I want to say something about you. I'm going to brag about you, but I want everybody to see themselves in this. When I went to work at the group home, I went to work at an orphanage, you know, that was

my career. And when I went there, I've often said that I connected with these boys because anybody who's gone through any abuse or dysfunction their childhood, we have different eyes. We do. Our eyes are just a little bit different. When you look into the eyes of a child who's suffered, they just want to be loved and you can feel it. And I have those eyes in my form of it you have it.

And yours, no matter what you've gone through. What I didn't know when I worked there is that they also have different hearts. They have different hearts because one of the ways we get our love is by achieving, but we do become scrappier. We are tougher. We are more relentless. We do take more knows. We will get after you to win because we want to change how we feel so badly. We want to change how we feel so badly. And even I see your face change as I say that. And so if you've gone through any dysfunction in your life, when we meet each other, we kind of connect in a way.

Like, I don't connect as well with people who've had easy lives. I wish I did. I wish I did. I wish I did. But I often find myself gravitated towards people who have had tragedy or difficulty or abuse or neglect in their life. And I used to think it's because we have the same eyes. It's not why.

It's because we have the same hearts. Our hearts are the same. I'm getting goosebumps. I've never said this out loud until you were just speaking. And I'm like, that's what I see in her. That's what I see in all of my great friends. It's not their eyes. It's their freaking hearts that are different

because of what we've had to go through. And that's why I love you. And if you're listening to this everybody, if you've had that, that's what you share in common with us. You have to unleash it, but it's a gift. It's a gift because your heart is just different. You're just, it's the heart literally as corny as it sounds.

It's the freaking heart of a champion. It's somebody who wants to be somebody so bad and change how they feel so much that they're willing to do anything. And I just realized as you were talking, I've spent most of my life trying to change how I feel. Do you relate to that? I'm like nodding like my head's gonna fall off over here. It's yes. At the first time we really had a hard talk conversation, I said, I just, I just want to feel proud. This is what I told you. Like, I've had all this success and it's like, when is it

gonna be enough? When I'm gonna sit there and go, ah, blah, blah. And it, because I just wanna feel, you know, you're always chasing, yeah. And what you've learned, I think, through this, my sweet friend, my brilliant friend, my powerful friend, is what you're learning through this is, maybe I can keep this drive in this heart, and actually still simultaneously give myself the gift of feeling these things.

I don't have to wait, because when time is potentially cut short, which it's not going to be in your case, but it's threatened to be cut short. Absolutely. You go, yeah, enough of that crap. I'm going to feel these things now. And I'm still going to be this boss where I kick ass. I mean, I considered canceling, I considered stopping all my businesses pretty much. I considered stopping my coaching.

I considered all of these things. And then I had this, and I went, no, I get so my coaching, I considered all of these things. And then I had this and I went, no, I get so much energy when I do that because I'm watching their faces. I feel, I feel their hearts. I see that I'm changing them in that moment. I get off the, I can't do those calls too late in the day because if I do it too late in the day, I'm like, woo.

Yeah. I'm like, let's go. And it's so healing. And it's so cathartic. And I do feel proud in those moments when I know that I'm shifting people's lives. And so that becomes really important to me. And I really think if more people would operate from that,

that it's truly heart centered, it's, you don't have to be this crazy shark at the top. You can be a good person. I mean, I definitely identify as a shark in ways, but maybe not like a baby shark. Right. Right. I mean, I would, yeah, it's just,

you just recognize it in people and you can really feel that. That's a real thing. I feel it in you. I think this hour, by the way, has been the biggest difference you've ever made in your life and you've made the difference in millions of people's lives.

I rarely cry. You made me cry. And I feel like usually when I do the show, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be so good for everybody else. And then there's been a moment saying, like, oh, this is really good for me. And you are really good for me. And I love you very much.

I'm super proud of you. And thank you for having the courage because this is a tough lady who's won to say, all right, I'm gonna peel it back and I'm gonna tell the world what's going on with me. That in and of itself took amazing courage. And the fact that you're kinda documenting this journey, you're gonna be the inspiration for millions of people

in different areas of their lives. And you were born for this. Everything that's happened to you in your life is prepared for you for right now 100% and if you're listening to this, everything that's happened in your life has prepared you for right now. If you'll unlock it, release that heart that we've talked about today. Okay. Thank you. Go to bossley.com.

Go to I'm Bossley on YouTube. What's the Instagram? I'm Bossley. I'm Bossley. Follow her journey. Her podcast, the People's Mentor as well. Well, you're doing that. You're just crazy not to get the power of one more.

You're absolutely crazy not to have your email submitted at edmylet.com so that you can get early access to shows like this today. And I just say, I don't know, I don't need to pitch you because everybody listens to this, follows you, but you have changed my life in more ways than you realize. You are, I wish more people got to know you how I get to know how I've gotten to know you. You are such a pure soul. And I try to pour as much love into you as I do, because I, there is so much greatness in you, and I know you know you're great, but you're better than anybody that just listens to the show

or watches you online or walks past you behind stage, could ever imagine, and our relationship that has evolved over this last half year, especially. I truly treasure you as a friend, as a person, as a coach, as a mentor, and you're doing more work in this world than you realize. And I want to give you your flowers

to while you're still here, because you're amazing. Thank you. That means the world coming from you. You know guys, every show I say share this, I don't think I probably have to ask you to this week, but like this message of this think I probably have to ask you to this week, but like This message of this hour people need to experience they just do and don't keep it to you. Please share it with other people God bless you all Max out this is the end my let's show

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