THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Surviving Fame, Threats, and Fear with Faith & Joy | Willie & Korie Robertson

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Faith, Family, and Building an Unshakable Legacy What’s the secret to building a family, a business, and a life that actually lasts? In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Willie and Korie Robertson—founders of the Duck Dynasty legacy and one of the most faith-driven families in America—to talk about what it really takes to stay grounded in success, marriage, and purpose. You’ve seen the fame, the show, and the empire, but today you’re going to hear the heart behind it all—the values, struggles, and faith that have held it together. Willie and Korie open up about what it’s like to build a business as a family and why their faith has always been the cornerstone of everything they do. We get real about what it means to raise kids with character in a culture that’s lost its way, and why success without strong values will never be sustainable. They share how fame tested their foundation, how they stayed united through challenges, and why keeping God at the center of every decision changed everything. We also talk about marriage—the hard parts, not just the highlight reel. Willie and Korie reveal how they’ve navigated seasons of conflict, learned to communicate through differences, and kept their relationship alive in the middle of raising a big family and running multiple businesses. There’s real wisdom here on what it takes to build a marriage that’s unshakable, not because it’s perfect, but because it’s rooted in grace and growth. This conversation isn’t just about Duck Dynasty—it’s about what it means to lead with conviction, love deeply, and leave a legacy that outlives you. Whether you’re building a business, leading a family, or trying to figure out your next chapter, this episode is a masterclass on faith, vision, and perseverance. The Robertsons remind us that you can have both success and peace if you’re willing to build on the right foundation. Key Takeaways: Why faith is the cornerstone of the Robertson family’s success How to stay grounded when fame and pressure hit The keys to building a marriage that lasts through every season What it takes to raise strong, values-driven kids in today’s world How to build a business and a legacy that honor God and serve others If you’ve ever wondered how to build something that truly matters—something that lasts beyond the spotlight—this conversation will show you the way. — Max Out Also don’t miss out on MAXOUT2026: Once a year, I open my home for an intimate one-day experience unlike anything else I do. This year, I’m making it even smaller—just 12 to 15 people. Together, we’ll dive deep into the exact strategies I use to plan, visualize, and design the best year of my life—and yours. If you’re ready to Max Out your future, join me at Maxout2026.com for a life-changing day you’ll never forget. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👉 SUBSCRIBE TO ED'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL NOW 👈⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   → → → CONNECT WITH ED MYLETT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: ← ← ←  ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INSTAGRAM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FACEBOOK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LINKEDIN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WEBSITE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey guys, it's Ed. I rarely do this. As you know, 99.9% of my content is free. But once a year, I do something where I gather a very small group of people in my house. I've done it for two years in a row now. And I'm going to do it again this year. If you go to max out 2026.com, I'm going to do an experience in my home where I'm going to take you through how to make 2026 the best year of your life, all of the tactics and strategies that I use to plan and organize my own life in detail. same time all of the mental rehearsal and visualization techniques that people pay me hundreds and millions of dollars a year to teach them, I will be teaching that day as well. And the other years I've done it, I've had groups of about 25 or 30. I've decided this year I want to shrink the size of the group so that I can get more one-on-one time with each of you. I'm going to keep the groups to 12 or 15. It's a chance to spend a day with me in my home, lunch, one-on-one time, and group time. And it's not cheap, so if it's something you can't afford, please don't get yourself in any financial trouble or debt doing so. But if it's something you can afford to do, go to max out 2026.com. and I'm looking forward to having you in my home with me very soon for an amazing day, a life-changing day. God bless you. This is the Admiral Show.

Hey, guys, it's Ed. I rarely do this. As you know, 99.9% of my content is free. But once a year, I do something where I gather a very small group of people in my house. I've done it for two years in a row now. And I'm going to do it again this year. If you go to max out 2026.com, I'm going to do an experience in my home where I'm going to take you through how to make 2026 the best year of your life, all of the tactics and strategies that I use to plan and organize my own life in detail. Same time, all of the mental rehearsal and visualization techniques that people pay me hundreds and millions of dollars a year to teach them.

I will be teaching that day as well. And the other years I've done it, I've had groups of about 25 or 30. I've decided this year I want to shrink the size of the group so that I can get more one-on-one time with each of you. I'm going to keep the groups to 12 or 15. It's a chance to spend a day with me in my home, lunch, one-on-one time, and group time. And it's not cheap, so if it's something you can't afford, please don't get yourself in any financial trouble or debt doing so. But if it's something you can afford to do, go to max out 2026.com, and I'm looking forward to having you in my home with me very soon for an amazing day, a life-changing day. God bless you.

Welcome back to the show, everybody. So this week's kind of an interesting thing because I'm interviewing these two very famous people, but I never watched his show. I never watched your TV show. So this is going to be, I say this to, oh, because I want transparency with you. I've got to know Willie, and I'll properly introduce both of the minute. I've got to know Willie, like, as a human being, because we tore around and speak at some of the same events together. And I just, he's such a good man. He treats everybody so kindly.

He's a good man of faith. He's hilarious. I really enjoy his company, knowing about the show, but having never watched it. So I get to learn a lot about the two of you guys today. Most of you are like, how do you not watch that show? So you know them both from Duck Dynasty. Also, she's a bestselling author. He's a bestselling author.

They've got a new show out called The Revival on Hulu that's out now. We're going to talk a little bit about that. But I want to kind of get into your family and your faith and your business life and all that stuff together with Willie and Corey Robertson. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Yeah. Your show, it's Duck Dynasty, The Revival.

It's actually on A&E, but it does come out on Hulu as well. And so that's been a lot of fun getting back into the sausage-making business of television. We're back, yeah. Took some time off. First time around, we did 11 seasons. We did 130 episodes in five years with the family.

And it was, we were getting it. We were kind of like ready for a little break. Yeah. We took a few years off. And then we came back to our kids and we're like, you think you want to do this again? And they all said yes. And we were like, well, I guess we did something right.

We didn't like ruin them about putting them on like a reality show in 15 years because literally our kids. grew up on television in a lot of ways people saw them get their driver's license go on their first dates all these things which are things that are kind of like scary for a family when you know the history of reality tv yes but the fact that they all were like yep we're in let's do it again we felt like was a good sign so we're back that's good you know by the way and i watch how people react to you obviously knew who you both were but i just did not watch the tv show i've never really said that in an interview i've 800 interviews sort of been that honest and i like it because

what you all fell in love with off camera he's even better behind the scenes truly he's just like the drivers we're talking about our flights before we came on like all the guys that drive you and i did this rave about how you treat them how kind you are so you live your faith and that's one of the things that i really admire the most well i tell every driver i'm with no matter what and i give them cash money i said tell everyone else that's here it's that hell tell them how good i am how bad i have been yeah i've seen this i've been working that for several I want to ask you something serious. I read this.

I'm a prep freak when I do interviews. So I know you from us traveling a little bit, but then like I really dig in. So if I'm wrong about the story, just correct me in the very beginning. But part of coming back in the public eye more, even though you've been in it, other stuff does come with this. You know, when you put yourself in the public and I know this as well, there's things that are unbelievable blessings that come with it. And then there's stuff that isn't. I don't know if most people know this or if I'm wrong about it. But did you not have, like, one time someone kind of come after you a little bit and shoot in your home and you weren't there?

And there was an attack on your family at one point. I know that's a serious way to start, but I'm curious how that affected the both of you. Yeah, well, we've had a lot, you know, a lot of weird things that have happened, weird people and weird, you know, stuff that's some even scarier than that. Really? Oh, yeah. Scarier than someone's shooting in your home. Oh, I would say that was the scariest. I mean, we have, I don't know, there's a lot of threats, of course, you know, when you're in the public eye, there's a, I guess, statistically, like there's that many people are kind of following you and interested in your family.

There are going to be the crazies out there. So we have had a lot of threats, but that was certainly the scariest. Well, now, okay, so you're in the public as well. Are you more, would you be more worried about being injured in a drive-by shooting or someone who literally had your name, your address, somebody that focused in on you and the latter? That's, to me, those are the ones they're like when somebody gets really locked in and fixated. So when we've had that, I mean, obviously being this long in the public eye, you've had that as well. So, but it's all part of the, you know, if you enjoy the good side of it, there's also, I mean, there's a certain amount of people, I think a law enforcement guy told me this one time, he said, there's a certain amount of people, percentage wise of the American public that are psychotic and, you know, that are. And so when you put that number on that percentage, and then if you look at how many people, let's say, watched our show,

like there was like a hundred and something million people. So do the percentages of 100 million people. Get the number of how many people. And there you go. And so that's what you're going to have to, you know, it's all part of the package of when you do put yourself out there. You are noticeable. You do stand out because a lot of times you like when you stand out, it's kind of fun. Certainly in some situations.

if you're trying to get a table at a restaurant. You like standing out. But also when you stand out, you know, you're not, you kind of look back to, you know, I just want to blend back in and, you know, this. By the way, I want to make sure because I butcher this in the beginning. The show is on A&E when they look at it too, but it's also on Hulu. You were going to say something when he was coming on that we're going to say. I would just say that I think for us it's about like not living in fear because I

remember even when the first time around when we decided to do that dynasty, we had so many people and well-meaning people like that are in the faith, that would be like, why aren't you scared that like your kids, you're going to get divorced, your kids are going to go on drugs, like all that. And it just felt like a really moment for us to say like, we're not going to live in fear. Like we're not as Christians, believers. We have the spirit of God in us. We're called to walk in faith and not live in fear. And so that was a moment that we chose it right off the bat. And then, you know, there's a continual kind of choosing of that to like say like, nope, scripture tells us, do not fear. God is with us, and he's in control. And, you know,

we look at that moment where we did have a shooter. He shot like nine shots into our property and hit our son's house. And, um, and but you know, we're like, hey, we're alive. We're good. We actually had ordered lobster that day. We were just talking about Maine. It's amazing. Really? Are you serious? That's crazy. My lobster's in from Maine. That is bananas. We were just talking about this right of camera. That's crazy. So yeah, that's like an April day. It was sunny. It was COVID.

We had all been outside. And we had tons of people. We have a bigger piece of property. So everybody, our friends were coming to our property because it was like, you could walk around and go fishing. You know, it was during that crazy time in 2020. And then. But anyway, we all were inside at the moment. You know, we were protected.

We had ordered lobster that day that Willie was going to cook that night. So we still had everybody over and we had lobster that night. You did. Yes. And we were just like, you know, look, we're all alive. We're fine. We're having lobster. Like, this is a good life and we're okay.

Well, I told the police, I was like, yeah, and I'm out there, but I'm thinking, I've got to, like, lobsters have a certain. There's a window, I know, you've got to get going. You're thinking about the lobsters. So my mom calls, and she's like, I said, oh, did you hear about, yeah, someone shot your house? That's crazy. And my mom goes, are you still doing the lobster? And I said, yeah, I'm trying to work the lot. You're crazy, bro.

Like, I had to pot on, the water was blowing. And then the shots ring out. Yeah. Are you? It's not meant to be made light up because obviously bad things happen as well. But for us, that's the way we live our life. He's good at that. The reason I always, there's a reason I ask everything when I do this.

And the reason is this show, people that watch this show are by and large trying to get to the next stage of their life, meaning they want to improve themselves. They want to grow. They want to succeed. And one of the elements that comes with doing that, in my opinion, is you have to be willing to stand for something yeah and be bold about it whatever that is it could be your business stands to help homeless people or you believe in a certain dietary program and that you whatever it is like but successful people are bold enough to stand for what they believe in whatever that belief is and the

two of you are bold about your faith and that's why you you weren't just targets because you were on tv i believe you're probably target because you're bold about that part of your life do you agree with my premise that to do something significant in your life you've got to figure out what you stand for you believe in and and and be bold about it yeah yes i think it's a process i think it would be to i mean it's easy to say yes to know exactly and probably the people listen this they don't know everything that they stand for i think i think that's what scary is going here give me the whole list of everything that you stand for and so and some things you're not some things you're like well i know this but then in what way are you going to stand for that what are you

say especially what are you going to say publicly what are you going to what are you working through i think the bible's like that it'd be like tell me everything you think about the bible and every issue some of those things in the bible i don't know i'm still learning and i'm still talking to the people i'm going i think this is the way it is and so and i'm not saying that to give uh to say you can be wishy-washy i think there's things you stand on but how you do that how you implement that without being so arrogant to where you've got everything figured out that's where i don't want to be like yeah i've got it all figured out i know what i stand on i know what i believe i know i know everything because then i would feel like well now i'm not

open to learning something new where i'm like wow i used to think that and i don't think that's right i think now i've changed my mind and i think in this country people would be willing to change their mind and say you know what yeah we've always said this is the way it is but wouldn't that be great listen yeah it'd be great have a politician go hey i got that one wrong exactly well i got it wrong i'm sorry my intentions were right yeah yeah my bad that was just i was influenced by other things. I really didn't think that through. Yeah, I agree with you. You do do that. You're you keep things like one of the things I admire about you in the last year too is I've been around you and we're not around each other every day, but it's like kind of clear

what you believe in, what you stand for, but you do it in such a kind way. Like it's not a, there's no offense when I'm around you. Do you know what I mean by that? Like you keep it light. Are you conscious of and you tell me if I'm right about him on this. Because I also think what leaders do and people that change things is they can change energy in people change your room change energy meaning when they walk in some people kind of walk in and they bring an energy down other people come in and they kind of just blend into the when I've been in a room with you when you walk in like the energy shifts you know it does don't don't be fault but you know that it does like

are you do you agree that he does that do you do that and do you think that's part of being you know something that creates changes. You're actually conscious of change in energy. Maybe he just does it with his giftedness. No, he does. He does do that. And I think even we were married at 18 and 19. So we were very young. We got married. But I saw that in him then. Like there was that charisma that drew people to him. And so he still does that. And I think we both are very aware of energy in a room. I think that is a thing. And like maybe there's a discernment about people or whatever. But negative energy is like, it can draw you down. So we are like within a.

our family within our business it's that intentionality about like bringing that positive energy and like lifting people up and encouraging rather than like bringing the room down you do you have a loving energy like right even when i walk in you have a loving energy his is like light and approachable and accepting and i'm i'm being overly serious because he is funny but like i always want to pick apart like what it's not a fluke i don't believe in flukes there's blessings right like there's we've all three of us are clearly very blessed people. But there's also success leave some clues to. And I think there's something about Willie, my wife asked me about you once. She's like, you've talked about this dude two or three times. What is? I go, I've been around on that much. I just like this guy.

And I said, I'll give you a compliment. I'll tell you what I said. I said, he's hilarious and he keeps things really light, but there's a real depth to him as a man. And he, and he's very bright. But he doesn't have the need to make you think he's the smartest guy in the room. He wants, There's two types of people. You're both this way to me. There's some type of people that walk in a room and go, here I am. And with your big personality, that would be easy to do. And then there's people when they walk in the room and they go, there you are.

And the two of you are, there you are people. That's great. That's great. That's great. And I was actually, Corinna, we're talking this morning about doing this with you. And I was telling it because you did something that it was so interesting, but not many people do. So we speak together a lot. And so we're on the, but we're not the same time.

And so, and, you know, this is a long journey we're on. And so usually I'm coming in, empty or coming in from something else or whatever we've got. And so, but you, and I always joke. So my joke is up there. Like, every time I see Tebow, I go, Tim, you crushed it. And he goes, I know you didn't listen. That's right. But I always said, oh, man, you killed it.

It was so good, you know, all those points you made. And he goes, I know you didn't listen. So you told me, you said. um you should come hear me you should come here my my talk i did not because you i don't think you wanted me to say like oh you need to hear what i have to say no but i learned so much about you from your talk and i would have done that had you not specifically directed you to do it yeah like you were inviting yeah it was just a simple invitation everyone wants to be invited and like the fact that you invited him made him feel like oh i've almost never done that in my life and

it's because i had this affection and i was like blown away by your by your story and just and how you communicate and then obviously we're in the same business so it's like I was like oh wow how he how he told this or how you you know segue to this and how you bring it down and so you watch all that and I was like oh but I've really got to know you and so I'm so glad you did that and I think in life we don't we don't just simply invite you know and I think with it back to the energy so I think what I'll do and this is why I love the humorous side and the comedy side because it can you can diffuse so many things and you can say different things. So the negative energy, and I got the order I get, I'm just, almost just

want to be like, I can't be around that. Like, I don't even want to be in the space. And so, but now I'll call it out. But if you, oh, yeah, so you can call it out. But then when you can wrap it in humor, you're actually calling it out, but then everybody's going to laugh at the same things that other people cannot say. He has a way about just using humor to be able to say something that's truthful because a lot of humor, most humor has that element of truth in there. But You're good at that. Sometimes you cross the line, but sometimes I'm like, whoa, that might have been too far. Some of the funniest things.

Some of them is humorous that you're near that line. Yeah. Isn't that and that's what makes it funny. But I think everyone knows it's because you love them. And that's what I tell people. He truly cares enough to try to like pull the better out of you rather than just let you live in your negativity or whatever. So for instance, and Nick Boyichick speaks with us as well. And I love Nick.

Oh, man, and I roast him too. And definitely. And we laugh so hard because, because again, I'll just, well, bring up stuff that probably know, everybody's, you know, you can tell people who are uncomfortable with this story. And if you don't know, Nick, he doesn't have arms or legs. And so recently, just a few weeks ago, I'm fixing to do a talk somewhere. And my guy who's with me was losing his mind because the audio was not right. And it was actually a little church kind of thing we do at home.

So it was something local. and he's like, we don't have this. And then, so he's poor negativity into me. I'm fixing to be up there talking and being positive. And my guy, who I'm paying to be the guy, and he's not realized he's doing this. And I just, I looked at him and I said, I wonder what Nick Boyuchick's doing right now. And he looked and he knew right there, knew right there. Think about life.

Think about everything. And think about this situation. This is not a bit, you know. And we don't need to be, you know, we're looking at the. the few problems we have energy is such a big deal i'll be honest with you i the audience doesn't know but when we're recording this after this i'm immediately on stage in front of several thousand people and you're following me a few hours later i would not have done the interview today before i would only do it after except that i know i'm getting energy from you like when i'm

around you i'll do better today because i'm around the two of you that's how much energy matters in life you guys it's a big deal to sense it and i'm with you also the older i've gotten if you don't bring it the right way around me and it's negative i just find myself separating myself from you i don't want it around i only have so many days left on earth i don't want to spend it in your frequency especially that that's how they fuel their life there's people who wake up and they just start feeding the negativity like oh can you believe that uh did you see the news just and there's so many people i know like that i'm like how do you live like every day you're just and then therefore you realize why people are trying i'm blowing the horn i'm mad and the coffee didn't it's everything is

the wrong one. I'm like, man, if you just think about other situations. Yeah, you're right. How blessed you really are. You buy a pair of socks that's two socks. You buy a pair of Bomba socks, that's four socks. Because one purchased is one donated. Sox are the number one most requested clothing item in homeless shelters. So when you buy a pair of super

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With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability and varied by race. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at amex.com.com. Even when we travel, I think of Nick. Honestly, we're talking about our bad travel days. And I actually said this to my guy a few weeks ago I said we were delayed like eight or nine hours somewhere but like perspective is life like when you can find the right perspective you're a totally you don't get the life you're living you get the life you're focusing on and I remember saying because Nick you all know Nick but

if you didn't Nick doesn't have arms or legs and so it's difficult traveling and I remember thinking I'm upset about this I can literally get up right now walk over and get a drink and something either imagine if Nick has to go through this like the difference in my perspective like shifted immediately here's what I want to know about the two of you because there's all these things about you're very successful financially you've been successful at you know leading people and to your faith obviously tv entertainment books your business is blown up for the last 20 some odd years right what about your marriage like it's obviously one that i admire and then i look up to like have there been hard times like if you

could be candid with us like if there been times you're like we're on the ropes here a little bit and if you have been what did you do to get through it and what's made it work like the two of of you even lean in like there's little body language things like it's clearly two of you are still in love with one another but i'm just curious about what you would tell us about that like lessons from your marriage never had hard times it's really they should do a steady on it 33 years i've never had a cross word um no i'm gonna let her speak no we definitely have had hard times and um i think 33 years of marriage there's there's no doubt you're gonna go through those things but i do think It's that, you mentioned, that leaning in towards one another, that just remembering like,

okay, we're on the same team. We have the same goal. You know, we want to be great grandparents together, seeing our kids and just thinking about legacy and generations. And then also looking to the legacy that we're passed down and seeing Philling K and their story and how their story impacted our lives. Yeah, Willie's parents. So Willie's parents' story was they had 10 terrible years.

and Phil was an alcoholic, adulterer, all the bad things you can imagine. And their marriage was totally over. And until he came to Christ and he repented. And Ms. Kay forgave him. And they stayed together. And all of this that happened to us through the commander, Duck Dynasty, us meeting at a summer camp in fourth grade because they became Christians. And Kay wanted her, they wanted their kids to go to a Christian camp.

I wouldn't have been at a Christian camp. All of that came from them putting in the work to stay together. So whenever the tough times came for us, and, you know, it was that reminder of like, okay, we can just, we can come back together, put in the hard work, forgive, repent, say you're sorry, all those things, and stick together and give that gift to our children and the next generation, the next generation that they gave to us. And so I think that was a big part of it. And then, you know, when there's times when you just, you need to go to counseling.

You need to go get help. You need somebody else to sit and listen to you and you be able to, like, say it. You need to go individually. You need to work on things for yourself or you need to work. So we did those things, different times of the, within our marriage. And then sometimes said, okay, we got to take stock. Like, what do we need to quit because we need to focus on this or what do we need to do differently? And I think it's just a constant, it's a constantly evolving thing of like saying like,

okay, we're going to turn back together. We're not going to see each other as like the enemy, but as the teammate and know what their goals are. Yeah, I think it is hard. It's, you know, to stay together that long is obviously it's hard because half the people don't, you know, right? It's, you know, they just say we can't. And so it's really hard to do that,

especially the more you go, especially in our situation where life changed a lot, like when we were in our, 20s and then 30s, just business people and around the, and it's still hard there, but then when you're thrown to the spotlight, it's a whole new thing. And then everyone feels like to know you and you feel like you have to say. And that's, I think that's part of it too, is like even in our marriage was like, what is open to say? What is not?

What is like, hey, I don't have to, you know, we don't have to do this. You don't have to have an interview every time because everybody's wanting to know, you know, because you read the hellah, I think there's something. and then it's like people are demanding like because it works or TV show we want to know exactly you know we deserve to know all this stuff that's going and some of that stuff you're like you don't you don't have to you don't have to you don't even know of those things and I think we I mean even this morning this morning we were in our hotel room and we're working through things that like at work and and I think for us work is it gets a little yeah it's a little sticky because we're both like we have a similar personality traits from like an enneagram perspective so we we counter the same and when we get at work and then cori's one way and i'm one way we're we're doing things but there's two different directives and so as just i enjoyed we haven't even talked about this but i enjoyed how we work through it now as opposed to what it may have been yeah 10 or 12 years ago which was like like i'm fixing to

lay out my case and i mean i will rip through this room and you will understand how When I get through here, we're going to be clear. You're going to say, like, okay, you know, he threw the thing and said, I will not, you know. And I think we do that, especially with our spouses, speaking of negative energy, sometimes we'll focus so much negative energy towards the one that we're with the most, you know. And so that's the person we're just going to rail on and be like, oh, because you probably are justified to say, well, if I don't, if I don't let her know, what, you know, how mad this makes me, you know, and so therefore I'm just going to keep. ramping it up and then she's like well you want to ramp it up you're like to do that too or ramp it up the other way which is now i'm not going to talk to you and we're just going to ignore each other and so and i think we've been through every phase of that you know through our life where we're like

i mean i really don't even speak for a week you know it's just like we're in the same place and it's like i'm so mad over this well especially working when it matters and i think it could be kids and all that but i think those things will bring you back together especially our children which you know I'm so glad we have our children because there's a lot of times I'm like, oh, thank goodness we've got, you know, our child will come over and then we're, now we have to be back together again, you know, we're like, okay, this is good. And so I think that's- By the way, this is good. Like, what you're both saying, this is really good. Like, that you're this transparent, but also what you're saying, because most people wouldn't

be that honest. Like, this is outstanding. You're talking about your dad. I'm sorry if you're losing your dad. And I know, I lost mine, not that. Let me eat on my talk. I talk. about mine both our dad shaped our lives quite a bit and and mine was no saint either for the first part and then same all very similar actually and um so i don't want to ask you about the lost part of it but i i do want to ask you about something that's personal and you can go as far into it as you want but it just affects so many families now and we've covered it so maria schreiber's been on my show so a couple times she's a good friend of mine and so she works with women and alzheimer's and i've had I had a grandfather that I lost before I lost him, so to speak, a little bit.

And I've been reading a lot about Reagan recently in those years where he was sort of fading away. And I'm wondering, I believe your dad had a struggle with that as well at some point, right? Where you were. And I'm wondering, like, if you could be like genuine, this might be one of these things, it's really a deep place to go, but like how that affects you, like sincerely, like affect you about, getting old affect you in your own mortality affect your faith like God why are you doing this and because he's such a center part of your family and your life I wonder what that piece of it was like for you guys yeah it was now the way I

have dealt with this people may agree with they may not I took pretty much my personality and the humor and the lightness through the whole thing and so we were talking about my kind of how I I am and I think a lot of how I am and how I do things is because of my dad. I'm going to say it's a weird way, but it was the opposite of what my dad would do. So that was like, he was, you know, at times he didn't seem kind and he was just like, and I remember even when he became a Christian, even at home, like he, it would just be intense, like, and he was dominant and he's trying to stop being what he got him in so much

trouble and I think I just literally went the other way and so I circled around probably even for mom because she'll say like I was trying to make her laugh like so I'm trying to lighten the mood to coming off of him which is and again I have the most respect and for Phil and what he was those type of things that it made me uncomfortable we always said he we always have to assess blame so Phil would be like who did this why did you do this what kind of idiot would do this you know and so every time and so I wanted to go the complete opposite going we don't have I don't want to be that way I don't want to you know because I didn't like that and so I don't want to be that way and so I really think with the way I did it which was funny and Phil never kind of

like he would just he would look and like there were times growing up I would be in there and we were laughing we were laughing too loud and he was trying to watch the news and so and he's and he looked at me goes, hey, Saturday Night Live's over in there, you know, which was telling us, I, and then it made me laugh even more. And so the stuff he would do would just tickle me going, oh, that's so funny, how he views the world. And so I respected that, but I think it really did shape a different way that I live. But coming back to his faith, I was such a student, disciple of that, and how he, just the mission he was on. And so he made such good arguments and good, and Phil's a great storyteller. So, and I think I got a lot of my storytelling.

from Phil, who was an amazing storyteller. We would sit around when we didn't have any money. So when you get to, you know, as he's getting older, and so I'm kind of like, I'm always kind of seeing it like, I can see this comment, I can see what's going to happen, and I'm trying to think about how that's going to be. And once I started seeing him, you know, I never forget, it was just he and I in there, and we were talking,

and I was telling the story about a guy, and he goes, well, yeah, he's dead. And I'm thinking, he's not dead. like you know and I'm thinking oh he doesn't realize who I'm even and then I was like no dad I'm talking about you know this guy you know he's like yeah and he was just off and I was like oh no it's you know because we had seen it every one of his siblings had had that had passed away from some sort of dementia all something which is interesting on how that happened and so once that started happening I didn't know and so you talk to other people but then we just realized like oh this is going to be tough you know it's going to be tough to go through that now

when someone's there the tragic part is watching like you mentioned your grandfather watching them slip away into that which is horrible the only good side of that at least for me was when they pass you're ready you're like uh because phil would have hey you know he would there's no tell him what he would have told me if i ever you know if i could have just shown him a glance like Phil this is what you look like i mean he'd have said drive me out to the river and kick me off the edge of the you know he would just he would have hated to have been uh like that and so you you are there's such a joy like his because his mind was just gone his body was healthy but he's just he had just and it was a complete so i had fun with it we when i would talk to him and we he started saying the craziest things and then i would go oh and then i would just start either sometimes i'd play along yeah because you realize you're not you know i think it's so hard for us to like because you're going well he said this but i'm like it doesn't matter what he's saying he doesn't even know the context. And for him, he went back in his mind to the late 60s. And that's where he was, which was when he wasn't a Christian and when he was running from the police. So every

conversation, somebody was after him. And he'd get out and he'd look out the window. He'd go, are they out there? Who? He'd like, you know, I'm done law dogs. They're out there. They're after me. I'm like, hell there's nobody. He was running for the border. We took my mother to the hospital one time. And so mom, we had a double-edged thing because my mother was having so much trouble. And then dad was, too, so I was trying to, it was like, it was basically like our grand, like I got a two-year-old and a one-year-old, and I'm trying to make sure they're both corralled. And so mom and dad's, I'm trying to get them in there.

Mom's in the hospital. And dad's in that place. And it was a weird place for me. And so he goes, he goes, oh, there. So he kept saying, I hear talking out there. I'm like, yeah, dad's just baby. He goes, are they police officers? And I said, no police officer.

Everything's good. And he'd be like, go check. I'd go chat. Everything's clear. Then I do hear kind of a commotion and we're getting ready to leave and I walk out there and there's seven police officers

they had brought a drunk guy in and so I walk out and they're like Willie and so I'm talking to the cops and I'm like oh no people's going to see him over because I'm going to take him out through this law police officers and I can't remember what story

I told him to get him out of there I said okay we've got it all set up on your face I'm seeing I'm just curious your motion when you're telling that what you're laughing but you're like what is that is that just you miss him you no i'm just enjoying well actually i cry when i laugh but um she can attest to that so like it's happy stuff yeah it's no it's totally happy and no and because here's the deal the situation

is the situation so you can either fall apart and be you know now now there i think i draw back to phil where i'm like hey what are you going to do like the person shoots at our house well we can you know, put up even bigger gates and walls and say we're never leaving again. I mean, we did make some adjustments with security, but, you know, but you're like, oh, well, he got arrested and he's going to, you know, and life is going to go on. And so you can't just live in that. I mean, there's, I know, I mean, I think we don't, I think Corey said live in fear. We don't live, but there's things that I know, I can be fearful.

I'm like, fear is a good thing, you know. What about that? What about that coming for you someday? or do you read about it? Do you want to know? I'm talking about it sounds like it's in our... Oh, I've got the gene. But see, that's...

I don't even think about it. What good would it be for me to sit here every day and go, oh, man, it's common. It's... Now, I do the numbers, like, I'm 53 years old, and I go, okay, I look at averages, I look at numbers, and I look at, you know, lifespans and how long, and I'm like,

well, that will be what it was. But whenever that comes, whatever that is. I don't want to steal my joy from today. I mean, how many people are worrying about the I'm like, you know, like, you can worry about 20 things.

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By the seven-time world's best leisure airline champions, Air Transat. I have to tell you something right now. You just said the word joy. I don't, I mean overly. serious with you today. This is a trip to me. I figured out... Why you being so serious? I don't know. I don't know. I know. Because everyone gets that with you. I get everyone gets that with you. Let me... I want to tell you one thing. It's just, I was literally almost going to interrupt you and use the word joy. I think I figured out what it is

that I dig about you. And I was, as you were talking, it was it. And then you said it. You have a joy in your life that I want more of. We're both believers. I remember when my family, someone asked me in an interview not that long ago, like, what's the one thing you wish you would have brought in your home more? We laughed. God was center in our home, I got unbelievable kids. But I actually said in the interview, Joy's a little different. Like my dad was like where we're similar is when my dad got sober, he was still like what I would call it dry drunk, meaning he kept the personality traits of the alcoholics still for a long time. I think people think, well, once your dad accepted Jesus or once my dad stopped drinking accepted Jesus there, everything about them changed.

Not everything. My dad still was grumpy. My dad still spoke to my mom in ways often that I did. didn't like you know what I mean so I didn't learn joy growing up in my home and I think that's the thing about you that I dig the most is there's a joy about you I will say that about Willie and I was getting emotional because I was about to say something else but I'll shift and talk about the joy I think one thing that people think about like people are successful in business they're like long-term goal planners like I know what it's going to happen in the next 10 years I have this willie really does live for today and he finds joy in the day and he's good at making sure he has fun in life and sometimes that's that can become like people who are around them will be it's like a jealousy they're like angry with him because they think he's having too much fun yeah but he's actually he's he's he's he's working he's but he's right or they think it's a lack of being serious like of being serious but he's he's he's enjoying what he's doing in the day of it and he's he's intentional and he works really hard but he's not like I got to have the next 10 years planned.

It's like, I'm going to do what God has for me today, and I'm going to live in it to its fullest. And then I'm going to do that tomorrow and tomorrow. So I do think that's a real gift. And it's kind of counter to what I think a lot of people think of, like, successful business people. So I think there is different ways to do that. Not that goal setting and planning and all that is a bad thing, but also to be able to say, like, I'm going to give what I can give. And he does that in our television show. It's like, if I'm there, if he's there, he's present, he's going to give.

give it all, but he might not be thinking about it the next day. He's not going to be the one that's going to do that. I'm a little bit more the one that's like thinking about it the next day and planning for the next thing. But he's going to be like, I'm really present when I'm there and I'm going to give it my own. We've hired people who have to think about it. When you have to be on their phones and they have to do Zoom calls and that, you know what I'm saying? So I know, and that's a job and that they really enjoy it. The reason I said that you earlier when I introduced you. I said that you had depth is because the first time I met you, it's what I thought. I thought, oh, this guy. The first time. And then we talked. Then the second time and the

third time, I go, oh my gosh, there's so much depth to this man. Yeah. He just has joy. And by the way, you should have a little bit more of that, Ed Milet. When he was talking, you were getting emotion. I was watching. What were you going to say? The part that was going to make me, I was like, oh, I was trying to weigh it to see if I could say it without crying. But I think that a great gift that I have had in seeing him care for his parents. is that. It's just seeing him. We are serious.

Like, this is not. I got you. I got you. What kind of crazy cycle analysis if you don't know. I'm just asking stuff, brother. We're feeling his speech and we're going to ruin our. He's not going to be funny today. Sucking your phone.

about it. Oh gosh. What are we even doing? Oh, that's awesome. But it has tried to make you life. Yeah, you did. It worked. Thank you. I appreciate that. It has been a great good to see him care for his parents in the way that he has. The way he has, like, loved his dad through it. Now his mom through it. He goes up there and, he goes and sees her every day and just tries to make her life. Four days in a row. Four days in a row. She, yeah, she's keeping school, too. How many days he's there? She doesn't remember a lot, but she does remember I was there four days in a row. And now I'm in Japan so yeah but she you know just to see the way he's loved his parents and been there for them and cared for them and and and through all of this has been a great gift to me as a wife to

be able to see that and because you're thinking hey if I if that happened if that happens you're going to be there for me you're going to be like hi remember what you did for your parents but you don't make fun of me though that's the well that's part of the package the package is yeah we do we do have to laugh which is kind of what I'm doing my mom right now she because she gets negative because she's because she's sad you're depressed you know she's like yeah she just lost her life partner since she was 14 or whenever she you know um start having kids so it's like she's depressed so she she she she'll say that to me and I'm like so she was like what if I get sad and I said well there's nothing you can do it by getting sad mom you're

just either going to cry and get over it and she so she looks at and she goes oh Bill Robertson She called me. And I said, well, hey, he's the one that raised me. So whatever it is that you don't like, he put that. That is so awesome. And then I said this. I said, Kay, so she's kind of getting sad. I said, Kay, remember that time when you had six squirrels in a Ziploc baggie and you put

them on the TSA belt and they went through security. That's a true story. True story. To take them to New York to cook on a morning show. And she starts laughing. That was my only thing. And she goes, I know what you're doing. Now you're trying.

Now you get me laughing. And I said, remember when they ask you, how do you cook a squirrel? And you said, is it an old squirrel or a young squirrel? That's the piece. And so I just, so we just got her into, more into the positive. Let's just laugh. There's not, you know, we're here, whatever. We're either going to be positive or we're just going to sit here and be tremendously sad.

This is so good. Like, you just do a lot of things really well unconsciously. and like when you start talking and these lessons come out i'm weird like what i'm doing the show i'm like what's the lesson for everybody what can they take out of this there's like they flow out of you man and like both of you by the way i wonder like if all is i was i was going to distill it down because we're going to run out of time and like i really wish we did like three hours of this sincerely like what did i say when i read the thing i said this will read your question i said this 'll take three to four hours yeah because i knew that when you go into the depth but but aren't you

trying to add as well when you're trying to pass this on to other people and this is like because there's some things I'm going yeah this is probably you know you're probably not you're not going to have a hit TV show that everybody you know yeah so as you're passing it's down you're like what's your secret I'm going to know like yeah do a reality TV show and have it be super popular right you know and then write books and I you know but then you're thinking well most people are like well there's not you know there's no world that that's going to live But what can you pass it? Exactly.

What can you do? That's exactly. Can you be positive in a situation? Can you sit with someone who has Alzheimer's and be, yeah, now those are things that you can literally do. And to me, and I don't want to speak for you, either one of you. So I want you to answer this. But for me, when I, the last 10 years of my life, it was really when I was young, I had all these great like business mentors and mindset people and all the stuff that probably I originally got known for online business and mindset and thinking in your brain.

all that stuff. Maybe it's just a phase you're going through. You'll get over it. I can't help you with that. The next appointment is in six months. You're not alone. Finding mental health support shouldn't leave you feeling more lost. At CAMH, we know how frustrating it can be trying to access care.

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caring for your parents and the joy and the laughing and the honesty about your marriage and all stuff and thinking yeah underneath all this the foundation is their faith you see the end of your father's life we're you know probably getting close to moms at some point so then you're like how does that affect you can you see that for yourself so the vision we're talking about is to that point when the vision goes beyond that when the vision goes now we're going to go past that then what now when you have vision of what's beyond here that can change your entire life Because now your vision is not just hearing what we can see to where it can either be sad or it can be, do we get the right time right? Or how did you get to 79 or was it 86 or at the end of the day you're talking about a couple of years.

What's beyond that? And so the reason I'm not sad about my father at all is because every day of his life he talked about the day he was going to leave this earth and the hope that he had. So he lived his life for that. So you understand now it's different. We don't act like the world. now because we're seeing something even beyond so so much of what we're here now people only see what they see and that's why they're caught up in that once you get that kind of once that vision opens up it's almost like the matrix remember when the other thing he's like he sees the whole

matrix as it is it's like oh he's you know and so it's almost like that once you have that then you start seeing some real joy you start seeing something way beyond which the bible would call the fruits of the spirit you know and those things joy and peace and peace and peace you start seeing some real joy and and patience and now that's where those things start falling in line and where they start and those are the things I hope that are attractive to people so when you're around you're going something there's something and we've seen it I've seen it from some of our atheist friends and they're like I don't know what it has but you know we're great friends and because I'm not like I know trying

to pound on their head I'm like this is what we do and whether or not you accept this or believe this it doesn't it's not gonna change my life but I would love for you to to see this and explain because there may be something that you may be like, wow, so maybe you want to know that and so that you can have the same type of joy, which will end up being kindness and unselfishness and all these traits, we definitely want our marriage. We want our partner to treat us like that. We don't want, you know, I want Corey to be selfish with her time and selfish.

No, all these, these are humanity. Everyone would love for this to happen, whether or not they want to make the decision to what it's going to take to do that. But we all love the fruit of that. What a perfect approach, bro. I just want to stop just a second. This is so good today. Like, I'm blessed to be doing this with you.

I didn't know when I walked in here, though we're just going to, by the way, I haven't even looked at these notes. I've literally not asked you one question off of these notes, not one single thing, because I didn't make these notes. These are my notes with you guys. But what were you going to add to what he said?

I was just thinking as he was saying that, that living for something greater, that eternal life. But also, it's just, I think, when you grasp that like eternal life starts like now, you know, it's not just something for future, it's now. And so like you can have these things now. We can have these things, this love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control, these things now that are the fruits of the spirit of God. And so it's not just, I do think, even growing up in the church, I think,

I remember kind of this mind shift and how we raised our children and this idea that like, oh, I just want to get my kids to heaven. And then you think, okay, well, that's something future. But then that does, how does that really affect my life right now? Then when I just was like, oh, no, no, like, eternal, as soon as like, eternal life is now, like, we are made to be eternal. We're created for that. So it's not something that's in the future that's like later reward. It's actually for us, for us to have right now.

Yeah, even though the limitations of an earth and a body. But so there's limitations, but it does start. I think there will be things that will change in eternity for sure, but it starts here. Now. So what we felt like is what I always think is like, okay, God had like, I'm here. Like, I'm still here. So I can like, what can I do? What can I do for God? How much time do I've left to do whatever? Because once like, Phil can't. He's not here on this earth. He's like, you know, ah, you know, I did what I could do there, but now I'm here. He's happy as he can be.

You know, he's like, this is where it's at. This is where it's at. And so we're like, ah, so it's waking up every day going, okay, what could I do here? If God had me here going, all right, I've got you here. what can i do what are the things that i could do and hopefully that would start you'll start making different decisions as to what you do in life and what things that really matter and what things because i'm telling you at the funeral the funeral is always the key the funeral is like your whole life is going to be summed up in a couple of paragraphs you know like and you don't get to write it somebody else right i don't get to write your own material like this is what somebody and sometimes i read because i read a lot of obituaries because a lot of them have they were ducked

Odyssey fans. So it's like, and he loved NASCAR and he loved watching Duck Nasty and you know, it's just so much stuff. I'm just like, oh, that's it. When it came down to Phil, we didn't talk about bottom lines. We didn't talk about what he did in business. We didn't, I mean, there was talk, some talk

about hunting and a TV show, but man, it was just people saying, this is how he impacted me. And I get it everywhere I go, but somebody comes up to me crying like at an airport, your dad did that, you know, I heard your dad here. And so living that kind of life which is which is a really unselfish life is living for other people it's not an inward

focus it's an outward focus okay i'm going to share this with you last you didn't i was going to tell you this so they feel like there's like holy spirit delivered conversation today just so you know because i've been holding on to this to tell you this about you at the end so i'm at an airport last week knowing i think i already knew we were going to be doing this today so in an airport last week and you know I'm blessed like you are that someone comes up to me sometimes says hey you've changed my life and it affects you so deeply no matter what the reasons so anyway this young man comes up to me 22 year old guy and he's in tears already and I'm getting moved I'm like oh my gosh I've seen this before I know what he's going to say to me except that's not what he said to me

he said I saw you speak at life surge in whatever city and I said oh thank you so much he said you were incredible. He says, but do you know Willie? No, bro. And I said, I do know Willie. And he said, would you thank him for saving my life? Wow. So he said, I got a chance to visit with him and you do this a lot too, but I got to see him speak, but then I got attention to take a picture with him. And he goes, I was going to take my life that day. Oh, my goodness. And Willie saved my life that day. And if you see him, would you please thank him? I won't say as last name, but his first name is Marcus when you did that for him. So that legacy of your dad lives through you, bro. I wanted to let you know that. You not only changed his life, you saved his life.

That's unbelievable. And I think today, you know, this sounds hokey, but I think today's conversations affected a lot of lives. So where can they keep finding you? I know they can find you on TV, but since I didn't promote it very well in the beginning, why don't you, let's finish with that. God bless you, man. That was awesome. That's amazing. Yeah, pretty cool. I'm not really on the yeah you can find me probably in the woods or something yeah duck dynasty the revival it's on a and e and it comes out on hulu october 16th so we're real excited about that you can find it on prime or wherever all duck dynasties are kind of everywhere there's a whole duck dynasty channel but um also instagram corrie robertson i wrote about last year godspeller um it's about

turning darkness into life one conversation at a time so i really go into conversation the conversations I've had that a lot of the conversations feel have, the conversations you can have with other people, just like this conversation is between believers, but I love what I love what really excites me is going into people who have no faith or like, I have nothing right?

Like Marcus. That's it. That's it. And so in talking to them and so Paul says I became all things to all men so that I could snatch some from the fire. And so I think we're talking about energy and environments and so I don't mind going in there. I don't mind going in and saying, all right, let's, where are we at?

I was around some people yesterday and I was like ooh you know a little rough around there just but they need the Lord they need to see that because they're watching me we're going how does that happen yes right you know if you notice how if you watch how Jesus talk to people it's not always the same thing's different you know he would I think this may affect you this may this may be where you're at and so yeah wrote the book uh we do uh the movie the the blind is such a great it's it's the we made the movie of fill and kay like that that time of faith and I was actually watching like you with McComte and it was like where he was talking about those time you know there's certain things I was like if that doesn't happen my whole life I don't

end up at the camp I don't meet Corey we don't have this thing and so and then have our children and then our children what they've done for the Lord and so I think there's just a lot there to learn as well so and we're going to keep we're going to keep doing more projects and more thing we really saw that need especially Corey with the production side and she's constantly worked on the podcasting and TV and all that stuff. And so, yeah, we've been a good, it's a good partnership with us. Two-year blessing. You know, I can tell you right now, we didn't get to family, your kids,

we didn't get to business, we didn't get to all that stuff. So I bet people probably want to see us do this again. Sometime next 12 months. Let's see it again. You know how to find these. Yeah, I can probably find you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

It was outstanding. All right, everybody. I don't, this is one I don't probably have to ask you to share. So if this moves, you affected you in any way today or, you know, somebody who could use this message from these two beautiful souls. Please share it with them. In the meantime, God bless you and max out your life. This is the Edm Island Show.