THE ED MYLETT SHOW - The Hidden Pattern Destroying Your Success (Delete Your Old Self) | Ed Mylett

Episode Date: May 23, 2026

What if the real breakthrough in your life isn’t about doing more, but finally letting go of what’s been holding you back from becoming who you already are? In this mashup episode, I brought toge...ther some of the most insightful minds I know to talk about something deeper than success. We’re talking about transformation at the identity level. Dr. Caroline Leaf breaks down how your thoughts are literally shaping your brain and your future, and how taking control of your mind is the first step toward taking control of your life. Jim Kwik reinforces that by showing you how upgrading your thinking patterns and mental habits can unlock levels of performance you didn’t even know were available to you. This isn’t surface level motivation. This is about rewiring who you believe you are. But it doesn’t stop there. Brooks Laich and Julianne Hough open up about the internal battles we all face when we’re chasing growth while still trying to heal. They share what it really looks like to confront your past, embrace vulnerability, and step into a more authentic version of yourself. Because the truth is, you can’t build a great life on top of a version of you that you haven’t made peace with yet. Real strength comes from doing that inner work, even when it’s uncomfortable. Then you’ll hear from Jamie Kern Lima and Stephen Scoggins, who both share powerful stories about overcoming self-doubt and finally believing they were worthy of success. That voice in your head telling you that you’re not enough is not the truth. It’s conditioning. And once you learn to challenge it, everything in your life begins to change. Awareness is the first step to taking your power back and removing the obstacles that have been quietly stealing your dreams. And what I love about this entire conversation is how Erwin McManus ties it all together. He reminds us that your life is not meant to be lived small or safe. You were created to become something extraordinary, but that requires courage. It requires stepping into uncertainty and choosing growth over comfort again and again. The gap between where you are and where you want to be is not talent. It’s the willingness to evolve. This episode is about identity, healing, and stepping into your true potential. If you’ve been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or like you’re capable of more but not sure how to get there, this is the conversation you need right now. You don’t need to become someone new. You need to remove what’s been holding you back from being who you already are. Key Takeaways: How your thoughts are shaping your brain and your future, and how to take control of them Why upgrading your mindset is the fastest path to unlocking higher performance The role vulnerability plays in healing and building deeper connections How to break free from self-doubt and finally believe in your worth The hidden obstacles that silently hold you back from your dreams Why becoming your best self requires courage, growth, and stepping into uncertainty How to stop chasing external validation and start building internal confidence 👉 SUBSCRIBE TO ED'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL NOW 👈⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   → → → CONNECT WITH ED MYLETT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: ← ← ←  ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INSTAGRAM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FACEBOOK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LINKEDIN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WEBSITE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:04 This is the Edmiler Show. Hey everyone, welcome to my weekend special. I hope you enjoy the show. Be sure to follow the Edmilet Show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. You'll never miss an episode that way. Now on with the show. All right, welcome back to the show, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I'm so excited about today's topic. It's probably the number one topic that I get asked about, which is the topic of self-sabotage. What do people do in their life subconsciously and unconsciously to sabotage their success or their happiness, There are results in general. I'm going to let you in on a secret. I'm kind of an expert on this topic and not because I'm so perfect,
Starting point is 00:00:42 but because I spent so much of my life sabotaging particular areas that I was making progress in, whether that was in my financial success. I'd get some financial success or business success, and then I'd sabotage it. Frankly, even really in my own personal happiness and peace, I'd feel like a little bit more bliss, a little bit more happiness, a little bit more peace in my life. Then I'd sabotage the results. even some relationships that I've had, I've sabotaged them. So I'm kind of an expert on this self-sabotage thing.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I also think I've probably become close to an expert on how to stop it and why it happens in the first place. So what I'm going to give you today is the gift of seven things people do to sabotage themselves, their success, their happiness, their finances, their body, their relationships. I'm going to give you seven of them. But before I do that, because I think these seven things are symptoms, that in other words, when I outline them for you, if you're doing any of them or more than one of them, you're currently sabotaging something.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So there's symptoms. But the root cause, the disease is something that's never discussed when it comes to sabotage. And I want to cover that today. What's going on behind the scenes in our minds subconsciously, unconsciously that's causing us to sabotage things? Because if we can identify that, we've got a chance of eliminating all of these seven symptoms I'm going to share with you. And so here's how I look at sabotage. See, our lives are dictated. The most powerful force in our life is our personal identity. Our personal identity is like the thoughts, beliefs, and concepts that we hold to be the most true
Starting point is 00:02:13 about who we believe we are or what we're worth. It's our worthiness, but it's even more than that. It's a combination of our experiences, what we're familiar with, what we believe we're worth, our self-confidence, all combined creates our identity or who we believe we are. And our identity is very much like a thermostat setting on our lives. So like in this studio right now, it's set at 73 degrees. I checked it right before I started with you. And what's great about that is that thing set at 73 degrees. Guess what's going on in this theater right now? 73 degrees is happening inside here. Here's why. The external conditions do not control the conditions of this studio. Right now it's about 85 degrees outside. Externally, it's really hot out there. But in here, 73 degrees.
Starting point is 00:02:58 because what happens externally does not control what happens internally in this theater. And here's the story. Same with your life. It's not the external things. It's not how other people are treating you or events going on in the world or events going on in your life or circumstances outside of your control that dictates your life. What dictates your life is that thermostat setting, your identity. Let me give you an example. And you've probably seen this before with yourself or friends of yours.
Starting point is 00:03:27 See, if you have multiple thermostat. settings, by the way. You have an identity setting, a thermostat setting for your happiness, your finances, your success, your relationships, your physical body, you have multiple ones, your faith. Let's just take a few of them. Maybe you've had this happen before in your life, but if you have a 73 degrees success thermostat setting, right, and all of a sudden your business is growing, you're at 80, 90, 95 degrees, maybe you've got a promotion at work or you own your own business and it's growing. But somehow a year later, it comes right back down to what it was before. Was it all the external conditions? Like if you go, oh, it's supply chain, interest rates went up, the economy chains. It's,
Starting point is 00:04:03 it always seems like at those things, but it never is because even in those conditions, some people are winning, some people are losing. What's happened is your success started to get higher than your thermostat setting. And it becomes unfamiliar to you. You're not used to it. So what do you do? You turn the air conditioner on subconsciously, unconsciously, and you cool your success back down to what you believe you're worth or your identity setting. You've seen this happen in your happiness level. You really believe identity-wise, you're 73 degrees of happiness. I know I've seen this for me or peace of mind.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Maybe you have a friend or you personally that they've gotten, 73 degrees of fitness or wellness or vitality, you know, and you see them and they've lost weight. They're going to the gym. They look ripped and great. And you're like, my gosh, you drop 20 pounds. You look incredible. And they're at 85, 90, 100 degrees of fitness. And then you don't see them for a while.
Starting point is 00:04:54 and you come back in a year and you notice, my gosh, they've gained all the weight back, maybe even plus three or four or five pounds. What happened? Because although they changed their workout and their diet, they didn't change the internal thermostat setting. And so at some point eventually, they subconsciously cooled it back down and they get the body they believe they deserve and their worth. Maybe you've seen this in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:05:18 You have a friend who's just their love thermostat is 73 degrees of love in their relationships. or how much they're going to allow themselves to enjoy. And then they've got this new person, this guy or girl, they're seeing you, you go to dinner with them. They're so happy. They're all lovey-dovey. They're at 90, 100 degrees. He or she's perfect for me.
Starting point is 00:05:33 They're my soulmate. They're amazing. You're like, oh, my gosh, they finally found 100 degrees of love. But if inside there's still a 73 degreeer, you come back in a year, maybe you haven't seen him, and you're like, hey, what happened to so-and-so? Oh, it didn't work out. We grew apart. We had different values.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It just didn't click long-term. They cheated. whatever it might be. What happened was you turned the air conditioner on of your life and you cooled it back down to what you believe you're worth. So this identity, this thermostat setting dictates everything. So if we can change that thermostat setting, and by the way, there's lots of ways we do it. In my book, The Power of One More, I have entire chapters on how do you elevate your thermostat setting? I recommend you go get the power of one more, but I'll give you a few of them today. You always hear, you're really the five people you hang around the most. Well, why that matters is because
Starting point is 00:06:20 people that you hang around that have thermostat settings higher than yours will heat you up somewhere in between their setting and yours. Let me give you an example of what I mean. You can't possibly be if you're a 73 degree fitness person, you're a little bit out of shape, but you're hanging around and going to dinner and working out with people that are 100, 120 degrees of fitness and wellness and vitality. They will heat you up somewhere between where you're 73 and their 120 is because you're eating with them. You're working out with them. See, progress is influence. Proximity is influence. So they heat you up. Same thing in your success. If you start running around, you're 73 degree person in success. You're just kind of right down here. But all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:06:59 you start hanging around people that are at 90, 100, 120 degrees. You've got mentors and friends that are 120, 150. They heat you up by proximity. So there's faith, there's association, and there's intention. These are three things I call the trilogy of increasing one's identity. So association is a big one. So that's why it's important to evaluate. Who are you hanging around? Do they just make you feel good, do they validate your thermostat settings or do they increase your thermostat settings? So identity is a major, major root cause disease of self-sabotage. And again, we're going to cover the seven symptoms in a minute. The other thing to evaluate is in our life, remember this, we like to move towards what's familiar. And we all want to have a sense of self-control
Starting point is 00:07:43 in our life. So we move towards what's familiar and we don't like the feeling of being out of control. So I'm going to submit to you something that maybe you've never heard before. You probably have never heard the thermostat analogy, but I'm giving you another one. Maybe the reason you self-sabotage is because it allows you to predict the future. It allows you to predict what's going to happen, which is giving you the illusion of self-control. Think about that again. Maybe the reason you're self-sabotaging is because it allows you to predict what's actually going to happen because it's going to become familiar. And it gives you this illusion of self-control.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Maybe that's what's going on behind the scenes. This identity thing will we cool it back down because we don't like to go to the unfamiliar. We don't like to move where we've never been before. And so self-sabotage allows our lives to become predictable because they'll stay the way they've always been. Interesting. Now, what are seven symptoms of the two diseases I just described? Number one thing that people do that sabotage themselves. And this is in no order, but I'm going to give you a seven symptoms.
Starting point is 00:08:47 of them. Number one thing they do, they focus on the past. They focus on the past. They look backwards a lot. You know, there's this analogy that the rearview mirror is smaller than the windshield for a reason because you should be looking through the windshield. But the truth is the inside of the car that you're sitting in, the present place you're sitting is even bigger than the windshield. And I can tell you that people that are growing that aren't sabotaging themselves spend very little time looking in the rearview mirror. They spend some time looking in the windshield forward, but they spend a lot of time fully present at where they are. And if you're looking in the past all the time, you're going to repeat it.
Starting point is 00:09:22 If you're looking in the past, the reason you look back there is it's familiar. The reason you can look back there is you can predict it. The reason you look back there is you've tied a story to it that you're very familiar with. And so people that self-sabotage keep looking to the past and wonder why they can't move into their future. Or every time they step into a new future, they end up sabotaging it because you're bringing the past with you because you focus there. stop focusing on the past or you're going to be sabotaging.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And if you are focusing on the past, you're in the middle of sabotaging something right now. It could be your relationship, your success, your finances, your body, your faith, your emotions. But if you focus on the past, you're going to get more of it. And by the way, even if you're reminiscing about a past that somehow you've created a story that's better than your future, all you're doing is reinforcing the negative emotions of what you have now. Second thing that people do that self-sabotage, they focus on what they don't have. they focus on the lack of things. People that focus on lack end up replicating it and getting more of what they don't want to have. When you focus on what you don't have, the relationship
Starting point is 00:10:23 you don't have, the body you don't have, that you're not as beautiful as you want to be or as tall as you want to be or as smart as you want to be, or you don't have the connections or the relationship or the degree or what you think is the notoriety or the followers on Instagram or the friends or whatever it might be. When you focus on what you don't have, I promise you That's a symptom of somebody who's in the midst of sabotaging something in their life or who is going to. Let's just already look at this. You focus on the past. You focus on what you don't have.
Starting point is 00:10:51 You are already turning the air conditioners on of your life. Even if it hasn't shown up in the result yet, it's about to because you're cooling things back down again. The third thing that people to sabotage themselves do is they compare. They compare themselves to other people. Remember, this comparison is the thief of joy. But they also do something really. interesting. They don't just compare themselves to other people. By the way, let's just stay on that for a second. You're comparing yourself typically to the most filtered, sanitized version of most
Starting point is 00:11:23 people's lives, which is what you see on social media. They've taken 900 pictures to post that one. Then they threw a filter on it, right? And you're comparing what is going on in your real life to the lives of other people. And by the way, I'm going to tell you something. I was at dinner the other night about two nights ago and I observed this family that was a couple tables down from us and man it was just one of those nights we've all had that in our family nobody was getting along the kids were screaming mom and dad were mad at each other saying some nasty things yelling at the kids one of the daughter had hit the sun you know we've all had something like that happened but it was a really difficult night for that family and man they were going at it and it was not a pleasant evening it was
Starting point is 00:12:05 not a joyful dinner there was not a lot of bliss not a lot of peace and I mean I remember the little girl actually hit her little brother, and he started crying, and the dad said something he shouldn't have said. Then the mom was mad at the dad for what he said to the child. And then the server came over and they said, would you take a picture of her family? And then all of a sudden, all the noise, all the chaos, all the anger, all the frustration stopped. And it said down on daddy's lap, you smiled. And then they took a picture for four seconds. Hey.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And it was like this blissful, joyous picture that in no way, I'm sure they posed in no way represented what was actually going. on in that family at any given time during that dinner. It was four seconds of a fake picture of emotions that weren't taking place. But imagine if you saw that picture of that amazing family and the minute you see it, you compare it to your family and the mess that you think it is right now. Or the great time. Doesn't it seem like everyone on social media is on vacation? Everyone's partying. Everyone's somewhere cool. Everyone's got great friends. Everyone looks amazing. Everyone's happy. And then there's you in your real life. That's one way that people compare. Maybe you compare to the version, the mask that most people wear in front of you of how happy and successful and confident they are.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And you're comparing their confidence and success, the mask they're wearing to how you really feel. You know what's the most unfair thing you can do to a relationship that's mature where you've been in it for four, five, six, seven years or ten years or twenty years. One of the most unfair things you can do is to compare that time that you're in currently in your relationship to the first six months or the first year when everything was new. everything was blissful. You were getting to no one. Everyone was on their best behavior. You had no negative memories at that time. And you compare your current relationship with someone to the exact same relationship you had with them except when it started. Or worse, you compare the relationship you're into a previous one you had with another person. It doesn't even need to be another person. It could just be another time with the same person. None of that is fair. Maybe you're comparing your life right now to five years ago or eight years ago or when you were in this or that or this career or that
Starting point is 00:14:07 job. Comparison is the thief of joy. Don't compare yourself to other people. Don't compare yourself to their sanitized versions on social media, the masks they wear. And don't compare your life to another time in your life or a relationship to another relationship or even the current relationship and a just different time in that relationship. You're getting ready to sabotage your relationship, your success, your happiness, your emotions if you compare. So so far, people that sabotage focus on the past. They focus on what they lack or don't have. And and they compare. The fourth thing people do that sabotage themselves is they focus on things they can't control
Starting point is 00:14:43 instead of the things they can control. There's a lot of different things you can't control. You can't control other people. You can't control their behavior. You can't control the market. You can't control interest rates. You can't control what's going on in the world around you. You know, one of the great distractors in life that steals people's joy is the media.
Starting point is 00:15:04 The media is constantly feeding you things that you cannot. control that you ought to be very upset about. And many of the things that you see you should be upset about. There's so many things going on in the world that are tragic and hurtful and disgusting and make you wonder about humanity. And you should spend some of your time focusing on those things and trying to make a difference for them. But at the same time, if you obsess on that world in the media of all things you can't control,
Starting point is 00:15:29 all of them, you begin to become habitual about focusing on other things you can't control in your life and you're going to sabotage your own life. you're going to don't focus on people things events that you cannot control now there are things you can have some influence over by speaking out and having an opinion you understand the difference that I'm making here you know exactly what I mean but what I am saying is when you become somebody who repetitively and habitually constantly focuses on events people things circumstances that you cannot control here's what I do know you can't control other people if you think you're going to control that person you're in a relationship with you're going to sabotage it if you think you're
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Starting point is 00:18:02 Fifth thing that people do who self-sabotage, they get discouraged. You know, as a believer, as a faith-based person, I believe there's an adversary. And I believe the adversary's number one weapon he will use against you in your life to get you to sabotage your life is to get you discouraged. If I can just get you down, I don't have to get you to completely fail. That's the easy way. I just need to get you discouraged. I need you to lose an account.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I need you to miss a sale if I'm the adversary. I just need someone to say something mean or negative to you. I just need a couple letdowns to happen. If I can get you discouraged, you'll sabotage it. the rest of it for me if I'm the adversary. So people that sabotage themselves, they get discouraged. And what discouraged mean is they lack courage. Discouraged. So the antidote to that is to stay courageous, is to feel fear and step into it anyway, is to feel the rejection and move forward, is to have the sale not one or the clothes not happen and learn from it and grow from it rather than be
Starting point is 00:19:03 discouraged from it. So the fifth thing is people that sabotage. themselves get discouraged. The sixth thing they do, they get distracted. They don't focus on the things they can control and they get distracted. They get distracted by social media. They get distracted by the media. They get distracted by what other people are doing. They get distracted by habits that don't serve them. One thing I would encourage you to do is make a list of the things that typically distract you. There's three or four things that constantly distract you from where you're going or what you want. If you're in a relationship, maybe it's being distracted with other people. If you're in business is being distracted with the media or social media.
Starting point is 00:19:39 It may be in the gym and you're not training as hard as you want to because you're distracted by watching television and stuff, being up and going for your workout. Whatever the thing is that distracts you, make a list of those things and do everything you can to eliminate or reduce them and self-sabotage. These symptoms begin to go away. Remember, these are the symptoms of the greater disease of the thermostat and the illusion of control. And then seven, believe it or not, one thing that people do that get,
Starting point is 00:20:06 a lot of self-sabotage in their life is they get a little bit of success. They just get a taste of success. And that taste of success, they cool it. In other words, if it's in their business life, they get a little bit of progress. They get a promotion at their job. Or if they own a business, they've grown their income. They're at a level they weren't ever happy for. Just a little bit of success, man, you'll start to sabotage things a little bit. I'm amazed when I watch this, but people that get a little bit of progress in their business, and then they cool it. They don't make the same effort that got them that little bit of success. Let me say that to you again. The very thing, the effort you made, the behavior, the relentless pursuit that
Starting point is 00:20:41 got you that little taste of success, you stop doing or reduce the amount of the thing that got you the success in the first place and now you're sabotaging the very success you got. Believe it or not, one of the big instigators of self-sabotage is a little bit of progress, a little bit of success. You cool it. Literally, you cool down your life with the third. You cool down your life with the thermostat setting. That term, Dan, don't cool it. Doesn't just mean stop your activity. Cool it means you've cooled the life back down, the success back down, the body back down, the emotions back down. You've started to cool it down because guess what? That little bit of success is unfamiliar. And now you want that illusion of control that I talked about in the beginning. I'm going to get this
Starting point is 00:21:27 back to what I'm used to because I can control it. I can predict it. So it's subconscious, but you literally stop doing the things that got you the little bit of success. You would think we would all, wouldn't we as adults go, well, I did this, this and this. It got me that result. I will do more of it to get more success. But most people, once they get a little bit of progress, a little bit of success, not only not even do the same amount, they do less of it. They celebrate too long. They cool it down.
Starting point is 00:21:57 They do less of the very activity that produce the result in the first place. and it becomes this like chasing their tail thing where they do something to produce a result or an emotion or something in their body. And then they do less of it. Take your body. Maybe you ate a particular way for three or four months, amount of calories, amount of protein, amount of hydration, right? Amount of cardio, you do the way you lift it. It produced a change. Then you get that change.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And not only do you not do the same amount, you should be doing more of it. You do less of it and sabotage the result. or in business, there's a certain amount of contacts and phone calls or emails or posts you made to produce that little bit of progress and success. You get the success and rather than doubling down and doing more of it or at least the same amount of it, you do less of it or none of it and sabotage the very progress that you made. That is the absolute manifestation of turning the air conditioner on and cooling your life back down. So let's review these seven symptoms of the disease of self-sabotage.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Focus on the past. Focus on what you don't have. Compare. Focus on everything you can't control. Get discouraged. Get distracted. And have a little bit of success. Those seven things are symptoms of people who are probably going to sabotage their lives.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Why? Because they haven't increased their thermostat setting, their identity setting to 85, 90, 100. See, you can acquire all the skills to be successful. successful, all the tools. Man, you can have the Ferrari of talents or the Ferrari of opportunities. But if you're driving a Honda of an identity, you're going to get Honda results. No offense to Honda, but you know exactly what I mean, right? The truth of the matter is you've got to find a way to increase that thermostat setting.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And that's through your faith by focusing on your intentions and through your associations, let those people around you heat you up. One thing to evaluate, and we talked about comparing and lack and focusing. on the past. I'm going to ask you a question. What about the people you hang around the most? If you took a look at the last 90 days of your four or five best friends, when you're around them, when you talk with them, how much of the conversations are about the past? Remember this? Remember that time? Remember when we were there? You remember. You remember. Right? Is there a lot of that? Because if that is the case, you're just reinforcing the past. Or maybe you focus on what you don't have.
Starting point is 00:24:24 or maybe they gossip about other people or they're comparing to other people. Maybe they're constantly talking about what's going on in the world or around you or things they can't control. Maybe they help you get distracted. And when you start to evaluate the people that are around you, I can just tell you something. I've had lots of friends in my life that I've added.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Some toxic people I've had to eliminate. But my best friends get me focusing in the present moment or on where I'm going. And we spend very little time talking about the past. And I'm blessed that many of my friends, have incredible past at this stage of my life. They could talk about the Super Bowls they won or the millions of dollars they made or the company they built and sold or the amazing family they've raised. They spend very little time talking about the past even when it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:25:09 They're focused in the present moment or they're looking through that windshield going to the future. They spend very little time. But if most of the conversations you have with the people around you are on the past, you remember this, remember that party, remember that time, remember this thing, remember that vacation? Remember that time? maybe they compare to other people, maybe they gossip about other people, maybe they focus on what they
Starting point is 00:25:27 don't have, maybe they are constantly reinforcing that you're enough right where you're at. You know, that's one of the things that's frustrating to me is this notion that you're enough right where you're at. Well, yes, you need to accept who you are, but there ought to be this part of you that's hungry to grow. I want my friends not to accept me as I am, but to have high expectations of where I'm going. I want them to love me as I am, but believe I'm capable of more. I don't want them to accept where I'm at. I want them to love me but not accept where I'm at. In fact, I want them to not accept it.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I want them to expect success, expect progress from me, but love me where I am. Believe in me where I am. I want people around me that see me as I could be, not as I am. And the more you have those people in your life, the less likely you are to sabotage your life. All right, we covered a lot of things today. I want to remind you of one thing. You were born to do something great with your life. And here's the cool part.
Starting point is 00:26:19 You have everything within you right. now that you need to make your dreams come true. And you belong in your dreams. Let me say that to you again. You belong in your dreams. And if you can stop sabotaging your progress, your emotions, your body, your relationships, your finances, you're going to be there. And so it's a matter of curing that disease and keeping an eye on these seven symptoms. Once you're aware of your thoughts, they lose their power over you. You become an observer of your thoughts. You are not your thoughts. In fact, not everybody and everything you think is true. I think a lot of things that aren't true.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And I challenge my own thinking, my own emotions from time to time. And when you get above them and you observe your own thoughts, you go, my gosh, I'm trying to control this. I'm moving to the past. It's all familiar to me. I'm going to focus in the present and project into the future. You can totally change your life because you belong there. You do not belong repeating the past.
Starting point is 00:27:18 You do not belong discouraged. You do not belong comparing. You do not belong focusing on the things you don't have. You should not be focusing constantly on what you can't control. You have no business being discouraged. Don't allow yourself to be distracted. And when you get that little taste of success, get hungrier for more because it's great. Progress is power.
Starting point is 00:27:39 That's what you were born to do is to grow and expand. I've said this many times. I am most focused on the expansion of my being. And I'd love you to be focused on that. Get focus on the expansion of you, of your emotions, of your understanding, of your life, of your learning, of the difference you can make, the contributions you can have, the experiences and memories that you can currently have in the ones that are coming your way, not on the ones that already happened. Very short intermission here, folks. I'm glad you're enjoying the show so far. Don't forget to follow the show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. Now on to our next guest. All right, welcome back to Max out, everybody. I'm so excited to have this guest here today. By the way, she's made a huge sacrifice. She's, at the time we're recording this, there's a storm where she lives in Texas.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Snow's rolled in. There's no power. She went and got a hotel room so that we could do this today. So if you see the background, that's where she is. And you wouldn't know it from the background, but this is one of the most remarkable people I've ever talked to in my life. I had the great honor of being on her show. She's a cognitive neuroscientist, which just even saying those things is a miracle that I can get that out of my mouth. Never mind to understand what it is.
Starting point is 00:28:46 She's one of the most brilliant people you ever going to meet in your life. She's a best-selling author. She's got a PhD in communication pathology. She's brilliant. And you're going to write a bunch of notes today. I mean, like a bunch of notes. So Dr. Caroline Lee, thank you for being here and making the sacrifice to be here today. Oh, Ed, I wouldn't have missed us.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Thank you so much for that lovely introduction. And I just absolutely love talking to you. We had the most amazing talk on when I interviewed you. And I think you're incredible as well. So thank you. I'm a big believer that identity drives so much of our lives. And you being. I've heard you talk about this briefly, but I think we all are trying to become consistent with whatever this identity is that we think we hold for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And sometimes the lack of an identity is unbelievably detrimental to someone's life. And I've heard you talk about this, being from South Africa and watching what they tried to do with Mandela. And so could you speak for a minute about the power that identity has over us and a little bit of how we can at least be more aware of the identity we hold and how. how we can change it to serve us if we need to do. Love your question. That's brilliant. And it's so important. Yes, I was born in Zimbabwe and that had enough, that country alone had enough problems and still has, and then grew up in South Africa and all my kids were born there. We've been in the States now for 13 years. So I was in South Africa in the apartheid era
Starting point is 00:30:08 and the transition and the post. And so by the time I had my first child, my second child, that Mandela came into power. We actually, I was carrying my, my newborn baby and in the to go vote for Mandela literally and with our with our housekeeper and you know that's how significant that is in my in my lifetime but I was working in the pre-apartheid if the pre-transition in the let me see the the apartheid era and it was horrific I chose to I worked across all socioeconomic strata and different political area so from the riches of the rich to the poorest of the poor education corporate and I spent three days a week working in the what they called the talent. which were areas that they had to apartheid separated out absolutely evil. And the reason I chose to work in all the different environments was to understand mind and humanity. So wherever you are, whatever you're in, how does this work? And how can we use our mind to help us cope with all these different circumstances? So in terms of identity, absolutely, what you experience in your nurturing and in the environment that you grow up in is definitely going to affect how you see yourself.
Starting point is 00:31:17 because every experience is converted through think-field chews into brain. So you can imagine a massive forest, which is your non-conscious mind, N-O-N. And that massive forest is filled with all different shapes and sizes of trees. And in between the green trees, you've got these little black trees, and maybe there's a big clump, and maybe there's a little one, and some trees are little and some green little black trees from a recent experience and some very big ones from a long-established experience. So something like racism would be a very,
Starting point is 00:31:47 very dominant cluster of dark black trees using the warning signal of all the anxiety and the stress and the terrible things that come from something as evil as racism, which is pervasive and affecting ability to actually how you see yourself. And so every bit of nurturing is built into your brain, every experience is built into your brain. So this forest is influencing. In the middle of the forest, just to give a visual, we have this wide full of optimism bias. So I always expanded like a strip of trees that are perfect. In the middle of the forest, there's this untouched area that's just perfect. And that's we want, we want to really access that. So if you're flying your helicopter, which is you in life, you're flying your helicopter and you kind of, if you,
Starting point is 00:32:27 as you develop self-regulation, you don't just fly your helicopter and bash into a tree and crash, which is what we do a lot of. That's messy. We want to, we want to know how to not do that. So self-regulation teaches us how to fly with a pilot and co-pilot. So we're flying over this forest and we're looking at where whatever the smoke signals are coming up where the signals and if you see there that there's so much of that particular type of black cluster of trees dark and that's influencing how you see yourself your identity's been affected but if you look at all if you really dig deep and you'll see the middle part of the forest which is you it's ed who can do something else that no one else can do but there's these traumatic experiences that are affecting identity so they can block
Starting point is 00:33:09 and they can become so big that they can actually build like a black wall against the green forest. So it's almost hard to see who you really are because you're so busy being involved in that you're stuck in that cluster. So that's why I say you've got self-regulation is not sitting and walking amongst those trees and getting lost, which is what we do. But it is actually getting in the helicopter and flying above and saying, okay, self-regulate. What am I doing? Why? And the only way you can get to the trees and the forest and all that stuff, is by looking at the warning signals. So these we track.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And then, so then you would pay attention, gather awareness of four basic signals. The first is the emotional. So let's say that you're feeling a high state of anxiety. That could be all depression. Now, depression and anxiety are not it's. They're not illnesses. To say you have clinical depression or clinical anxiety
Starting point is 00:33:58 is one of the most unscientific statements of our age and has created a huge problem where people are now backing way more with mental health, not because mental health is on the rise, but because the mismanagement of mental health is on the rise. We're not allowing people to talk about the story in the forest. We're just saying, oh, signal of depression, five symptoms, you can't sleep, you can't get out of bed, you're feeling whatever, whatever, whatever. Okay, diagnosis, label treatment is mainly medication at the current stage is the gold standard.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Some therapy, if you're lucky. Okay, and very often the therapy is putting a band-aid on the wound because they don't deal with the whole origin story. that's terrible. What we have to do is we have to say, okay, so there is this signal, there is this emotion of depression, it's consistent in your life, or anxiety, or both.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Very often it's comorbid together. And terror and despair and anger and a whole bunch of others. It's never just one. So all of this is giving you power and giving you control, shifting the power balance. When you do this gather in this way,
Starting point is 00:34:58 and I'll finish the other three in a moment, you are making 1,400 neurophysiological responses work for you and not against you. your blood vessels around your heart are dilating, which is sending blood flow and oxygen to your brain. That's increasing your ability to think more creatively. It's decreasing impulsivity. I can go on and on and on. So then now my body is in a state of healing.
Starting point is 00:35:21 But when I suppress it, if I don't gather awareness, if I just suppress it, my 1,400 neurophysiological responses will work against me. So now that blood vessels around my heart, for example, one of the 1400 will constrict. That means less blood flow, less oxygen to the brain. increased impulsivity, decreased cognitive flexibility. That's just a few. There's a lot more that I'm just giving a few not to overwhelm. So I stay in a state of increased vulnerability to disease by 75 to 98% if I don't gather awareness.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But if I gather awareness, I shift at the moment I gather awareness in milliseconds, I've gone from brain damage to brain healing in seconds. In milliseconds. That's phenomenal. This is how important mind management is. You know one of the things that frustrates me, bank fees. and banking fees as the son of a guy who worked in a bank for a long time. That stuff frustrates me. And that's why I love Chime. Chime is changing the way people bank. They offer the most rewarding
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Starting point is 00:38:04 So then I gather, and this is not hard, it is hard, but it's not hard. It's hard because we have got very, we just want quick fixes. There's no quick fix when it comes to mind. This is a lifestyle. So you gather awareness of your emotional stuff, the depression, anxiety, label it, be specific. Then you're going to gather awareness of your physical state, heart flutching, GI symptoms, tension in your shoulders, what is physically going on alongside this emotional stuff? It could be a series of things.
Starting point is 00:38:30 There's no cookie cuts of anything. you have a unique signal guide. Then you're going to look at your behavioral signals. In other words, what are you doing? How are you speaking? How are you connecting with others? How are you doing your work? How are you just with yourself with all the behaviors?
Starting point is 00:38:47 How are you speaking? How are you whatever? What's your creativity like? So what are your behaviors when you're in this state? And then you're going to go to your perspective. As I start getting specific about looking at these emotional physical and behavioral warning signals, I'm actually looking at the branches. I'm looking at these, because they have memories that the tree is made of memories.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So the signals have drawn me in and those of being these what I've just described. But now as I land my tree, I'm starting to look a little closer at these signals. And so now I also want to look at what my perspective is. What is the tree trunk? What's the perspective of what's this giving me? Life sucks or I hate life. It's not worth living or there's just no purpose. Or what's the, then you start.
Starting point is 00:39:27 So by the time you've done that, you've objectively gathered all these apples in your basket, you control them. Now you go to looking at the detail. What is this mean? What's the data? That's when you reflect. So reflect is ask, answer, discuss. Ask, answer, discuss. Put the thoughts on trial. Do that autopsy, that mental brain surgery without the blood. Why? And then you answer, why? And you discuss why. And you dig, dig, anyway, so when you write, you can write in lines, but I would recommend you learn how to make a metacog. It is unbelievable. In therapy, when I used to still practice. We would have people battling with schizophrenia, which is not a disease. It is a broken mind. It is someone who's gone through so much trauma that they're disassociating,
Starting point is 00:40:08 their minds disassociated. It's a symptom of an underlying trauma. And very often they can get multiple personalities because it's coping. It's pure survival. So the system, the neuropsychel, in the extreme form, we would use that. And by the time we got to writing, I could show, I could have a subject who had split their minds because of trauma as they're writing onto the in the metacog, which is a pattern in the middle on branches, like a tree, like a branch grows. Each branch grows out the previous branch and leaves are growing on the branches. That's what you do. You grow branches and you put your words on the branches. And you just like literally pour your brain on paper. As we did this, we would, the sub-tations would actually see, oh, same kind,
Starting point is 00:40:48 they're talking about the same thing, but suddenly there's three different perspectives. The fourth step is then to re-check. It's to look at what you've written. The third step's messy. It's like words all over the place. the four step is where you start connecting. What are the patterns? What is the antidote? What do I need to reconceptualize? See it differently.
Starting point is 00:41:06 If we use an algebraic example, we all probably remember X plus Y equals Z, even if we didn't understand it. I'm sure all of us can recall X plus Y equals Z. And the concept there is that X plus Y creates something kind of new that's over, it's like sort of replaces. I'm not saying that. I'm saying X plus Y equals X, Y. Reconceptualization is X, Y.
Starting point is 00:41:27 because it's your story that you don't want to just is it I'm putting a band-aid on I'm not fixing the issue and that's what if you just if you just do like 10 CBT you know cognitive behavior therapy not that I'm saying it's bad you can use CBT but CBT fits in step five if you want it to work for you you've got to first find out what's going on and then you but if you just all positive affirmations people use they're feeling terrible or they want to achieve a goal 10 of those in the morning 10 at night it's a band-aid it's not going to be sustainable because you have to you find out what are you trying to drown with the affirmation. So you want the affirmation to work.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You have to go through the neuropsychal, then the affirmation will work as a first step. You know, that's how you've got to change perspective. That was a great conversation. And if you want to hear the full interview, be sure to follow the Ed Milet show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. Here's an excerpt I did with our next guest. Hey, I want to jump straight in. You know, I've had a chance to get through all the way through power one more.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Good. And I got to be honest with you. This is by far one of my best book. this year that I've been through. I haven't seen so much packed into one set of bookends. And I don't know how long. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:37 One of the things that stuck out to me is this intention is the currency of identity or changing your identity. Explain that to everybody because I thought that was powerful. Well, it's not mine. I learned it from Wayne Dyer, actually. I probably made it my own. But many, many years ago, I was running on a beach in Hawaii. I met Wayne Dyer.
Starting point is 00:42:54 He ran by me. We ended up sitting on the beach together for about an hour. and a half. I was very young. If you don't know who Wayne Dyer has, Google him, he's one of the icons of, you know, thought leadership. Anyway, when we were done, he goes, Ed, you're going to change the world. And I don't know if he said that to a lot of people or not, but to me, it was incredible. Yeah. And he goes, and you're just this big brain, the way you speak and make people feel things and, you know, you're very talented man. And he goes, but you, but that's not why. And I said, well, he goes, and please never base yourself confidence on or your identity on
Starting point is 00:43:22 your abilities or your achievements. I went, well, what the heck he's supposed to base it on that? And he said, and he said, and, and he said, and, your case, your intentions, you have a warm, huge, beautiful heart and you want to help people and your intentions are so huge, they're so beautiful that that's why you're going to change the world. Always focus on your intention. There's a power to intentions. He happened to be writing a book by that title at the time. Long story short, it was the first time someone had complimented me where I believed it. I've never believed I was that smart or that special or that talented. But I did know I had a good heart. And so since that day, for the most part, man,
Starting point is 00:43:54 even preparing for something like this today, my confidence, my identity comes from my intention to serve, my intention to make a difference. So many people are chasing that tail of once I'm achieving something, once I'm really great, then I'll have confidence. That's not where mine comes from. Mine comes from intention, and that's what I recommend in the book. Yeah. No, I love that.
Starting point is 00:44:10 You know, it's interesting to me. I was just thinking through that, you know, we didn't get a chance because the event was so busy in the back, we didn't get a chance to spend a lot of time together. But you and I have a lot of similarities in our backstories. You told me that, but I don't know what they are. Yeah. Yeah. So my father was an alcoholic for a number of years.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And I watched him really struggling back and forth to try to get a handle on it. And, you know, when I was thinking through the intentions, I remember him actually having a similar conversation that your dad had it with you. I'm going to try one more time. Really? Wow. Yeah. And lo and. Did work? It did. It did. He's been sober for 35 plus years.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Fantastic grandfather and the whole deal, man. Thank God. That's wonderful. Yeah. But the intention behind. the mean that intent behind going through by making that um well an importance right yeah i think i think most of the things we do great in our life come from love my dad got sober because he loved his family enough to try again your dad got sober enough because he loves you and loves your family enough to try again hopefully loved himself but oftentimes you know it to find something we love obviously it may not be us
Starting point is 00:45:16 but all great things are achieved through love and that sounds corny with two dudes talking that lift weights and stuff but the fact of the matter is it's true and when i focus on who i love or what i love, that's much bigger than whatever the obstacle is in my way. And that's always giving me the fuel and the energy to, you know, persevere where maybe other people quit or gave in. Yeah. How much of that intention is cycles into self-sabotage? What do you mean? What do you mean by that? Well, to me, if you have a focused intention, you're intentionally choosing a direction where self-sabotage appears to be a lot more subconscious. Mm-hmm. Well, well, self-sabotage comes from that internal identity that whatever you're about to go do,
Starting point is 00:45:55 you don't believe you're worthy of or even if you get it you'll blow it like you've heard me talk many times about the thermostat analogy it's in the book but the truth is if you don't get this internal thermostat your identity high enough no matter what you achieve you're going to turn the air conditioners on of your life and cool it back down again to what you believe you're worth I just I and and I watch this all the time on my new show I have a new TV show what's going be streaming called Change with Ed Milette and this woman one of the guests on the show was a woman she gained 180 pounds lost 90 gained it back lost 90 gained it back And I said, the challenge for you, Angie, is you believe you're a heavy woman who happens to have lost weight.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And because that's the case, your identity is a heavy woman. You'll always get back there and turn the air conditioners back on. But what if the truth was you've always been a healthy fit woman who had gained weight? And if we could switch that identity, now we won't sabotage ourselves again. Sabotage is really the process of getting what we believe we're worth. Yeah. We're really getting what we believe we're worth. So we're trashing the current results of the current situation to get back to what
Starting point is 00:46:55 our thermostat setting is and that we call that sabotage, but it's just getting back to what we believe we're worth. Yeah, at least for me, you know, I again, we didn't get a chance to super connect just one-on-one, but, you know, part of my backstory is, you know, overcoming homelessness and some other things to kind of get where I'm at today. And it was something in the book that you mentioned, I thought was pretty powerful. And it was a huge shift for me, which is one of the reason I wanted to bring it up, which is this essence of operating out of history. Yeah. Versus operating out of future. Yeah. I kept telling myself I was the high school dropout because I had to pay the bills and help the family and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I kept telling myself for a number of years. And then one of my first mentors, old man, Miret told me, he said, you know, he said, there's two ways to think. You can either learn to think like me. You can learn to think like your dad. Which one will it be? Wow. Right here.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah. Right here. Talk to me about history, man. Talk to me about operating out of history versus future. Well, one percent of all people operate out of their imagination and their dreams. The 99% operate out of history and memory. And this is a really insidious thing. We don't even realize we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:47:55 when we're children, we're happier, why? My belief is we were just more recently with God. Yeah. And two, we don't have a history and memory, so we're forced to operate out of imagination. And then at some point, for some children like you and I, we start getting a history early because it's crossed upon us with an alcoholic dad or whatever. But for the most part, most kids, it's 10, 12, 15 years old. They start operating up history and memory.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And what we do in our life is we move towards what we're most familiar with. So you become familiar with this history and memory and you just move towards it. Same emotions over and over again, same thoughts over and over again, even at the external circumstances change. Our life is our emotions. We move towards the same thing. And that ties into associations. We all heard, hey, you're going to be the product of the five people you hang around.
Starting point is 00:48:35 That's old school, right? How do you know who it should be? What's one thing no one's ever told you before? I'll give it to you right now. It's in my book. If your peer group operates out of history and memory, they don't serve you like they should. I'll give you an example. If when you're with your friends is like, man, you remember, you remember that high school,
Starting point is 00:48:53 you remember that one thing. remember that you mouth you yeah right and that's what most friends do together yeah i don't have a lot of that i have a little bit of it and by the way my peer group have great histories and memories they can operate out of but they don't when we're together you almost got to force them what we're doing is we're talking about imagination and dreams what are you working on right now where are you going what's it going to look like you can't you think you can get tom brady to talk about past super bowls all the time dude come on man he's talking about hey i got this new crypto thing i've got this new watch i've got this new business thing i'm doing i got this nfts we're going to
Starting point is 00:49:24 to win the Super Bowl this year in Tampa. I want to get ring eight, whatever it is. You talk to Tim Cook who runs Apple. He's not talking about Max from 20 years ago. He's talking about what they're working on now and where they're going as a company. And so the people around you, if it's history and memory, that's one little key. Like, I'm not saying drop people. I'm not even believing in that unless they're toxic, but you got to add. And so this is how critical imagine. It's like probably, you probably ask me one of the four or five most important things in life. What is your frame of reference? history or memory or imagination and vision.
Starting point is 00:49:55 It's okay to have some history and memory. We learn from it. But going back there, you cannot be in both zones at one time. So if you're in history and memory, you are not in vision and imagination. And you were born to imagine. You were born to dream. You were born to do something great with your life. And I just remember that's something I want to talk about tonight in my speech.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Thank you for giving us with me that question. Hold on. Go ahead. Keep going. I'm going to write a note down because that was really good. Before we start the interview with my next guest, just want to remind you all that You can subscribe to the show on YouTube or follow the show on Apple or Spotify. We have all the links in our show notes.
Starting point is 00:50:29 You'll never miss an episode that way. Now on with the show. Hey, welcome back to Max Out with Ed Milette. It is great to have you with us today. And today is a power couple edition of the program, and I cannot think of a more powerful couple to have on the program today. So I'm sure you recognize both these people, but to my right is Brooks Light from the NHL and from the life change space.
Starting point is 00:50:52 and all kinds of different spaces we're gonna talk about here going forward. And this is Julianne Huff to my left. So thank you both for being here today. Yes, sir. I appreciate you, brother. I think that if I wanna give people a gift that are watching this, it would be if they could have lunch with you and they could sit down or they got 10 minutes with you
Starting point is 00:51:09 and there weren't cameras around and they could just ask you something, right? So I'll ask you first, Brooks, and then I'll have Jules answer. But if they ask you, hey man, I wanna make my family proud of me. I wanna chase the best version of me. I wanna create this business. want to transform my body.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I want a transformation in my life, right? What advice would you give me overall on creating a transformation in my life and chasing the best version of me? The first, honestly, the first thing I'd ask you is, what do you want? When you ask somebody that question, like, Ed, what do you want? You. And people give you a little she-she-she. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You, just you. In your life. And sometimes it takes a while for people to get the courage to get it out. And to get clear, huh, and get specific. It's very general too much. Yeah, tell me exactly what you want. Yeah. Okay, you want it?
Starting point is 00:51:59 Why do you want that? Great. That is exactly, that's what I start in my life. What do I want? Why do I want? This is what I want? I don't know how. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:07 But this is enough for me to then apply my intelligence and my resources and everything to figure out and execute that. But you need to know first, man. You need to target before you can release you. You're pulling a bow. You need it somewhere to shoot it before you let it go. So I like asking people that question, what do you want at your core? Yes. Don't BS me.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I can see through that. If you're taking up 10 minutes, you got 10 minutes of my time, let's go, let's get to it now. And then everything else is a distraction. Everything that doesn't lead to this exact thing that you just told me is a distraction. Even though you might like it, maybe it's part-time maybe get rid of it. As Tony says, burn the boats. Yeah. You know, like my parents had that conversation with me at the supper table.
Starting point is 00:52:50 like, what if you can't be a hockey player? Like, Dad was a principal. He's like, you should have an education in your back, in your back pocket. I'm like, Dad, I'm going to be a hockey player. And he's like, well, what if you don't? What if you hurt your knee? I rehab it, and I become a hockey player.
Starting point is 00:53:02 And I burned the boats. I got rid of this is what I want. And I didn't know how, but when I was 14, I didn't know how I was going to make the NHL, but the NHL was already in my hands. I owned it. I owned it. It was mine.
Starting point is 00:53:13 My friends that would try and get me to drink or go to parties or smoke. Still some of my best friends in my life, they were my groomsmen. But they tried to get me off that path, but I was like, you guys don't even know it. I'm five years away from this in the NHL. I'm 14, but I'm 19 in the NHL already.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Like I knew what I wanted. Didn't know how, but I knew what I wanted and I knew why, because it was how he was gonna express. It was what I needed to do with my life. So I would try and get that out of a person and everything else is a distraction. 100%. I posted today, today I made a post.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I said, the extraordinary are fueled by why and the average are always stuck with how. And so, and, and, and, And what I find when I ask people that question, it's why I don't do it on the show anymore. I've had too many even of my own guests when I go, what do you want? It's very vague.
Starting point is 00:53:59 It's very vague. And so the rarest thing is to ask somebody that question, they can give you a specific, clear, compelling answer. The other thing, like I just, you posted that today. I posted yesterday, if you're gonna have one thing in your life, you're gonna have one thing, have a magnificent obsession with getting better. You can go.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Whatever it is, whatever's your, like you wake, and that's what I'm doing now. I'm not in hockey, I'm following the flow of my life. What do I gravitate towards? Because I'm not getting paid for it, but what's my thing that I love? That's telling me where I should be. And then have a magnificent obsession with improving that. And it will find a way to monetize itself. You'll be successful. It really does, by the way. It really does. And you're moved towards your curiosities and your obsessions. Your obsessions become your possessions. You're going to possess what you're obsessed with. And here's the issue for most people. They're obsessed.
Starting point is 00:54:50 obsessed with their fears. They're obsessed with what they're worried about. They're obsessed with what other people think about them. They're obsessed with all of these things and you end up possessing these things. You said earlier and I fully believe that we are so much more capable than we even know. There's so much there's even in you. I mean you've been uber successful in your life and man you haven't even you're just starting to scratch like there's there's so much left and my wife too and me like people we're doing well and a lot of people are doing well and but we are so much more and it just fires me up and lights me up to even think like just ripping that open what does that even look like today even that thought like think bigger my wife is great at this she challenged me at this she thinks so big and sometimes i'm like that's not even you want like you want a spaceship with a hot tub and a yard like i don't know what you want even like i don't You know where we're going here.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Come back to Earth a little bit. That's so good. But like, we think big like that. Elon Musk and I, we get it. It's awesome, though. Just because it's going to pull you higher and you need to get like you are, I just believe, man, that people are so,
Starting point is 00:55:57 life can be so much better. You're so much more capable. Just sink your energy and your time, your intensity, your passion into it. Everything else is a distraction. Dude, you're firing me the haircut, break you know. I'm serious. And by the way,
Starting point is 00:56:11 I just want to move, though. I kind of want to like punch, slap, go do something big with you right now. But like, but what's interesting about that, just, and I'm going to let Jules wrap things up on that. But like, I just want to tell you all this too, like, watch what we're doing to each other here. The other thing I want you to see. We're amping into that up.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Right? Is I want you to find mentors and friends who could stretch and move and motivate you, not just always validate you, not just always make you laugh. Hey, bro, good to see you. I have tons of friends like that. People say, oh, drop your friends. No, you don't have to drop any friend in your life. But you gotta add people who stretch you and push you
Starting point is 00:56:47 and get you to visualize and inspire you, right? Like that's part of the formula. And if you don't have them, you gotta do it yourself for now, but still be seeking out those people. So, you know, people always say that, like with celebrities, oh, people are always being the yes man. But we have yes men in our personal lives too. So like, that is exactly what you said.
Starting point is 00:57:06 You know? And it's like, it's not just celebrities, it's everybody. Like, we have yes men all. over the place like stop validating me and tell me what to do like just actually like call me out there should be some friends you ever like you got to clean up the house before they come over man like you should have some people like hey there's some still people you want to have your A game for in your life right so this is unreal i'm just telling you straight up like i'm like this is unreal
Starting point is 00:57:27 i'm so feel i feel so blessed but i want to finish with you so it's hard to add to any of this i know it is you know but but you've had all this experience you've traveled the world you had this amazingly unique childhood. You've attracted this dream, man. You've had all these achievements and you've remaking yourself again, which I admire so much. And in five more years, you'll be remaking again. I know that. But what advice would you give to? Maybe it's a woman, I don't know, that's listening to this. It says, hey, I want something special in my life. What would you say that maybe we haven't added yet? What would you add to it? Is there something? I mean, the first thing that just popped in when you were talking just now was that it is about
Starting point is 00:58:04 reinventing yourself all the time and continuing to grow. I think, you know, a lot of people are like, you've changed and you and your response should be like, thank you, you know, and it's like, you know, and it's, it's amazing that, you know, we tell ourselves our stories of who we are, but that's who we were. Like, we're continuing, growing and like becoming the people that we're building, you know, And like, as we become the person that we're becoming and the achievements and the things that we want, it's not about what we want. It's about who we want to be when we have all of this. And so I think at the end of the day, like, it always comes back to us.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And it's like, what is it? Like, not what is it that I want to be, but who is it that I want to be? And I said it that I think at the very beginning when we were talking about how we meant, met, what you put out into the universe is what you're going to get. And if you're putting negative thoughts, if you're saying like, I don't know how, I don't know how to do this, I can't do that, I can't do that. Instead of like visualizing, putting your goals, like do a one year, do a three year, do a five year, do a 10 year, do it like one month and do small achievable goals so that you can actually
Starting point is 00:59:25 attain them and celebrate them and realize like I have the power to do these things. and then and then you get this confidence of who you are and then it just things just start happening like it's an amazing thing whether it's god the universe whatever you believe your own innate will power whatever you put out you're gonna get and so like put out some good shit guys jules you're so right like you said something else or i just want to layer on like i'm just moved obviously that's so damn good but you all said earlier you said something you said I'm enough. At one point you're enough. It's like you have to accept right now you have everything within you need to go win. You're all you need to be right now to go win. You're getting better
Starting point is 01:00:06 to prepare you for the next moment and the next moment, right? And one of my face, sorry, I cut you off. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. One of my favorite analogies and visualizations of this is if your cup is full and somebody's pouring into it, all this information and like more, like, you know, I can help you with this. And it's just overflowing. You're like, I can't deal with this. It's too much, it's too much. You sometimes just have to pour it out, and then you can start filling up again.
Starting point is 01:00:35 You know, it's like you know what you know right now, and that's great, and that's going to get you to that next step. But once you're there, pour that damn cup out and start over, you know? And it's like all this new information comes in, and then you're able to actually download it and receive it. So good. Were you going to say something on the lines? Sorry, I get excited.
Starting point is 01:00:54 We do a lot of, like, creative planning stuff in our, in our garage and it was actually we were talking about this the other day because we're trying to she was helping me um with the next stage of my life my reinvention and something we put up on the board her brother derrick was also helping and we put up on the board um what do we want to do and who do we need to become to do it and it's exactly what she's talking about is how and we talked about have your vision what you want to do okay that's great and then who do i need to become to do this And I tell her this all the time. We work on this.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I tell her this, I'm building a man that's better than I am right now. So I'm not yet this man, but I have a vision and concept of who he is. And she'll say, like, there'll be some mornings I'll wake up at 5 or 5.30 to go work out or 6 or whatever. She's like, oh, babe, it's early. I'm like, yeah, but I'm building this man that's capable of more. When we have kids, he needs to work out before we have kids. So we don't have kids yet, but this man needs to be capable of that stuff before we're even there. So I always work towards this far distant man that's better than I.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I am and I acknowledge he's better than I am, but I aspire to be like him and gradually just moving that needle every day. And someday as I fail, some days I take a step back. Oh my gosh. I want to, I want to kiss you right now. We can kill you. No, I'm serious. Are we all just best friends right now? No, like, I just want to say something like it's so good. So I talk all the time that I think at the end of my life, I'm a Christian, I believe that I hope I want the Lord to go, hey, well done, good and faithful servant. But I also think he's going to go, hey, man, this is the man you could have been. I want you to meet the man you were capable of becoming.
Starting point is 01:02:26 At the end of your life, I think you met the person you were destined to be. And my life is chasing down that dude. Every decision I make, I'm trying to chase that dude down. So at the end of my life, when I meet him, he shakes my hand and says, hey, man, I've been watching you. Great job, and we're identical twins. The worst end of a life would be to go to the end and you meet that woman and you're total strangers. And she had experiences and memories and contributions and differences. That's great.
Starting point is 01:02:49 That's a great visual. Right. So I'm, my barometer is chasing down that person. Exactly what you said. You're trying to build that better man, build that better woman. And it's the blissful dissatisfaction? Correct. Same thing.
Starting point is 01:03:00 You're happy. You're not satisfied. Right. You love your life. You look at the life. You have a fantastic life. But still, it's not, it's not, not that it's not enough. It's just not enough.
Starting point is 01:03:09 It's not enough. I'm enough, but it's not enough. That was a great conversation. Be sure to follow the Ed Milet show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. You'll never miss an episode that way. Ed Milet. Jamie.
Starting point is 01:03:23 It is such an honor to interview you on your show. This has never been done before. You in the hot seat. We're flipping the script. And are you ready? I'm ready. I feel like I'm in great hands with my dear friend here. So let's do this.
Starting point is 01:03:37 You know, I wanted to ask you about something that I think has affected you. I know it's affected you, but so many people listening have this in their life. And maybe they shove it in the back of their mind, but it's still there. And that is this idea of labels. And what I mean is, like, so many of us have had, maybe it's when we were a kid, someone called us a name, or, you know, we're in a situation. And someone says, oh, but you're not smart enough, or you don't have what it takes, or you're the wrong fit for this, or you don't come from the right family or this, that,
Starting point is 01:04:11 the other thing. And a lot of times we then find ourselves as an adult. And that label is like stuck, and it's taken root. And now it's sort of coming out in our lives and we haven't even thought about it in years, but it's still there, that identity. When you were, I think it was eight, eight years old, you were called Eddie Spaghetti. Eddie Spaghetti. Can you share how that happened and how you did or didn't let that label take root? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:41 I talk about this in the book a lot too, and how to overcome it, which I have. That part of me, I've leveraged into something pretty strong. but I talk about in the book that a lot of the beliefs we have about ourselves were installed in us, our identities, these thoughts and concepts we believe to be most true about us, our worth, they were installed in us when we were defenseless as kids. So it's like, be a good boy, be quiet, be a good girl, don't do that, don't make too much noise. And you start to just start to develop this identity when you're young, and then when you get out into the world, because you believe it, you confirm it, and then you gather more and more references for it.
Starting point is 01:05:16 before you know it, you're 20 or 30 or 35 years old, and it's who you are. And you've proven it because of this, your identity is the most powerful force in the world. You're going to be consistent with it. And most of what you believe about yourself, you weren't in control of believing. It was put there when you were a child. Well, same with me. So you have this combination of this kid who's at home. Things aren't real stable there most of the time. Sometimes I feel like I overcook that too, because when it was good, it was very loving. And the other thing is I had this loving mother 100% of the time, right? A hundred percent of the time.
Starting point is 01:05:47 And great grandparents and lots of great stuff. But there was this thing, right? So you have that anxiety going in chaos, going to school. I'm a little guy. I'm shy. I'm very, very shy. You know this about me to this day. I'm still very introverted, which surprises most people because of the speaking and stuff
Starting point is 01:06:05 in the show, but I'm super introverted. And I just started to get picked on. And this Eddie Spaghetti, your meatballs, right? then the class would sing it to me and they'd see me get upset. And it started to develop into this pattern of you're not good enough all the time. And then I remember, you know, a few years later, a baseball coach, really, I was become a pretty good player. But we had a great player on our team who went on to play like Major League Baseball for many, many years. He's still a really good friend of mine.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And I had a couple bad gains and I was down. And our coach pulled me into his office. He was sort of a mean dude. He's a good dude, but he was a tough dude. And he pulled me into his office. He goes, hey, Eddie Spaghetti. This is now I'm a teenager. And he goes, did you ever think that maybe you're just not as good as him?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Like, you go in O for three. Like, you can go O for three. He can't. So why don't you just accept the fact you're just not that good? This was my coach, right? And I remember just walking out of there like, whoa. And then I've shared with you another story that when I became a speaker, someone that I looked up to was like, you know, you're really not that good.
Starting point is 01:07:08 You know, like I can't even listen to you for one of about 15. minutes. And then I, and I used to think to like, am I like, is there something on me that's like, you can just punch me? Like, is there something about me? Like, you, people think they can just tell me these things about me? What is it about me? Because other people aren't, what I found out is other people are hearing similar things. And the truth is, I just started to go, I actually asked myself a question that I say in the book, I don't really believe that many good things about myself. What would I need to believe about me that would serve me? What would I actually need to need to believe about me that would cause me to change the way I show up in the world.
Starting point is 01:07:45 What would I need to believe? And all of a sudden, I started to really think about that. How would that guy walk? How would that guy talk? I'm doing an impersonation of this insecure guy. I'm doing an impersonation of a shy person. I'm doing an impersonation of someone who doesn't have confidence. It's an impersonation.
Starting point is 01:08:01 It's not who I really am. Well, maybe I can begin to impersonate the person I want to be. And I actually started to impersonate him a little bit, not fake it, but like, you know what? he'd walk with his shoulders back. His voice would be a little bit deeper than the one I'd walk around with. He'd think certain things about himself. Moreover, he would treat other people a particular way. He would treat other people in a kind and generous and strong way, almost in an overabundance of kindness and generosity to people, and belief and love for people. And a lot of that happened when I worked at the orphanage. I was like, now that's the guy I like. That's the guy that I am. I'm the giving guy. I'm the
Starting point is 01:08:44 kind guy. And you know what? I found out when I did that, I took it away from me, as we said earlier. It was about other people that I found a lot more peace. So I just started to become that person. And slowly but surely I think I am that person. That is really powerful. There's, I'm sure, so many people, I'm sure they'll send messages about this who, you know, see you online, watch your content and maybe think that everything's perfect and think that you were just born with all this confidence and with everyone loving you and millions of people following you even through grade school, right? I mean, we tend to think those things about people that we don't yet know deeply. And then we think when those things happen to us, like someone tells us we're just not good enough,
Starting point is 01:09:28 we can't hide it because we're embarrassed by it or we think it doesn't happen to other people. And I feel like you sharing that is so powerful. Thank you. I think I have a lot of people from high school actually that follow me now, right? When you, when you're, and I think if you were to ask a lot of them, because they've told me this, I just wasn't, I think they would just say to you like it just, I wouldn't expect it to have been Eddie. You know, not like he was a complete, I was just there. If that makes any sense, like, no, I would not. There was no like most likely to succeed in any of my, you know, yearbooks or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:10:03 But I don't think by the time I graduated, it wasn't like he's a complete dumb, dumb. But it was just like, he's just, Eddie Milet. You know, he's just Eddie. Like, you would never suspect he would be the person that, you know, might reach a lot of human beings in his life. You know, you just would never have predicted that. And that ought to give everybody hope. If you're not one of those people that everyone's like, no, for sure it's her. I was definitely not that person.
Starting point is 01:10:24 You go, oh, just mark it down. He's going to do something great with his life. No, no one was saying that about me. No one. No teacher, no coach. Maybe a couple teachers when I was a little, little guy, but most people would not have said none that anything significant was ever going to happen. So good. They didn't know you were the one.
Starting point is 01:10:42 That's right. They didn't know. That's powerful because a lot of people are wondering, am I the one? Can I be the one? No one's telling me I'm the one. And I think the fact that you doubt, I think the fact that you doubt or wonder whether you're the one is indicative of the fact that you probably are. I do. I do.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I just believe that. That's so good. And you know this for, and by the way, the reason it's good. good is because you know that to be true about you. I know that's true, but I've never thought about it that way. I know that's true. And I'm just thinking right now, I have goosebumps thinking about how many people are listening to this. And right now they know that they're wondering if they're the one. Yeah, and that makes you probably the one. Yes. That's right. And you know this because it happened in your life. Yes. That is huge. All right. This is good. I want to talk about, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:25 story. Can you share with everyone this story? I feel like someone needs to hear this today about your first grade teacher. Yeah, Mrs. Smith. Yes. So, yeah, I'll even elaborate on it a little bit. So I had no confidence at all. And I was getting picked on. This is what I think happened. Mrs. Smith was just a super, really kind lady. And we had moved to the town that we were in then.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And so I was also a new kid. On top of being small, on top of being Eddie spaghetti, on top of being insecure, on top of leaving many mornings where my dad maybe didn't come home the night before, or there was just turmoil the night before. I'm just leaving that house, this little dude. I wish I could go back and hug him, you know, which my mom did a lot of, by the way.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And so she knew that I just had no self-esteem. And I believe she orchestrated this entire thing, but we were doing testing like for grades and stuff, for the next grades. And she purposely had, I believe she purposely did this. For me, she had someone come in the back of the room and say, Mrs. Smith, we need you. your smartest student to come take a test to represent the class.
Starting point is 01:12:35 And I could see the person in the back. I heard them. And I watched Mrs. Smith go, that's Eddie Milit. He's the smart boy. And she picks me. And I remember going, oh my gosh, she thinks I'm the smart boy. And I just looked at her and she smiled at me. And I remember just lighting up. And then the person goes, okay, then Eddie Milet, you need to come with us. and I stood up and it was the first time ever in my life that I was like, I'm special. This is special. And I walked up and went to the back and I took the test and I guess I did well.
Starting point is 01:13:15 But when I came back in, I didn't say this on the last time I told this. When I came back in, at the end of the day, class was over and Mrs. Smith said, Eddie, can you come up here for me? And I came up and she hugged me. And she goes, you're so special and so smart. You're the smartest boy. She just like hugs on me for a minute. And it really changed my life a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:47 It changed my life because that was the first time. I was like, well, maybe they're wrong. Maybe I am smart. Maybe I am special. And this beautiful soul knew exactly what she was doing. She orchestrated all that. She knew there was this child. I think she had this sense.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Something was going on in my home. Because kids don't come like that to school, that shy, that timid, unless something's wrong at the house. And I'm telling you the truth that I have thought about that like hundreds, maybe thousands of times in my life, that event in my life. What a beautiful, beautiful soul she was. So that's Mrs. Smith. It's one of those people, you know, in your life when you close your eyes and you go,
Starting point is 01:14:36 there's this handful of humans that make you feel special, make you feel loved and cared for and believed in. And she's on that highlight reel of like maybe three or four human beings in my entire 51 years. And the reason that that's important, is because I've tried really hard in my life to be that person for other people. That they go, he loves me, he cares about me. He most, maybe even as important, he believes in me. And then you show people how to live a little better.
Starting point is 01:15:14 That's exactly what she did. She was a super, super special person. And little did she know, that little first grade dude would, you know, be on a show with you today. You know, last night when we were, talking on the phone about this idea about how many people don't feel seen. And I'm just imagining like the power, right, of her seeing you. First time anyone saw me. I was telling you last night that a lot of my work in my life has been,
Starting point is 01:15:42 I don't know why it makes me so emotional, but a lot of my work in my life has been about helping people that perform pretty well perform their best. And the more and more I've been doing what I do, the more it's occurring to me that that's my role is a little different. And that is that there's millions and millions and millions of people, maybe more than ever in the world, that were like the first grader, me, but they're 30 years old. Very short intermission here, folks. I'm glad you're enjoying the show so far.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Don't forget to follow the show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. Now on to our next guest. All right, welcome back to the show, everybody. So today I get to share one of my favorite men I've ever known in my life with you. Truly love him. I miss him very much, too. I don't see him nearly as much as I would like to.
Starting point is 01:16:24 He's a life architect. He's an artist. He's an entrepreneur. He's the founder of Mosaic, which is one of the most beautiful churches in the world. He's a contrarian thinker. He's a lovely man, a kind, gentle, brilliant man. He's the type of dude that after you've spent some time with him, you can't help but reflect on the time you had with him when he leaves. Every time I'm with him, I find myself thinking about the conversations we had, days and weeks even afterwards. And I have a feeling that that's going to happen for all of you today as well. And man, is this going to be awesome? It's got a new book out called The Seven Frequencies of Communication, which is incredible because he's incredible. Irwin McManus, welcome back to the show, my brother. It's so good to be with you. It's just good to see your face and to hear your voice and to get to have this time with you.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Me too, brother. You talked about this recently and it just struck me. This isn't a frequency thing necessarily, but why are so many people, and you said you had a little of this too, or maybe a lot of it. They're in their own way. They're their own biggest enemy in life. Yeah. Why? How?
Starting point is 01:17:30 I think there can be multiple reasons, but self-doubt is a really fascinating thing. It really comes down to what voices you allowed to determine your identity. All of us have a series of voices that speak to us from childhood all the way through life. But those voices do not matter until you accept them as your voice. So if someone says to you, you don't matter, but your voice tells you you do matter, that voice doesn't have power of you. But when you let that voice shape who you are, and I think for me, I had voices inside of me saying, don't be too successful.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I literally was always my greatest enemy, this voice, because I'm a deeply spiritual person. Yes. And I have this, I mean, my life is centered around the person of Jesus, Christ. And I've never wanted to do anything to invalidate my relationship with him or to cause anyone to ever question my sincerity. So what that did for me is it actually created some self-limiting mindsets because I didn't know how to become the full version of myself and not have people question my faith. And when I had to realize eventually, I think this is one of the things I learned from you and so many others is the better you're at something, the more people
Starting point is 01:18:57 are going to hate you. There is no way to escape opposition or hate or whatever you want to describe it. And once I could accept that going, even if I'm completely sincere, there's always going to be people who question your sincerity. And so then I went, well, if I'm going to have people who hate me anyway, I might as well be the best version of myself. I might as well move toward optimal performance. And at this point in my life, Ed, I'm at the point where I'm going, I want to have the greatest impact on the world that I can while I'm still on this earth. And writing the seven frequencies was a huge part of that journey for me. Writing mind shift was a huge part of that. And what I'm going to do from this point forward in my life is I'm going
Starting point is 01:19:40 to give to the world what I feel will create the greatest contribution on this planet. I love it. And you have to decide at some point, I will not live my life based on the voices that are speaking at me, that I will listen to a deeper inner voice that calls me to the greatest purpose that I have. Oh, it's so good. Erwin, you're so, he's had so much to give you guys. And I remember, you probably don't remember this, but there's even shame in some people's lives about making a little bit of money. Oh, I've been, I've had so much shame for that. In my own life, Ed, I mean, my wife and I lived, I had a salary of less than $12,000. for 10 years.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Gosh. Because I thought it was ethically wrong for me to make money. We slept on the floor. I wouldn't buy a bed because I told her that was a luxury, not a necessity. I don't know what got into my head. And I remember one day we were married. We had kids. And I said, I think that it's okay.
Starting point is 01:20:38 I think God told me it's okay for me to make some money. And she goes, you can make money. I said, oh, I've always known how I just would have to stop myself. And she goes, well, could you know start like now? but I always put a cap on myself. Yes, right. You did, Erwin. You did.
Starting point is 01:20:57 And I've always known I could make billions of dollars. I've never had that confusion in my head. And the confusion in my head was, do I give myself permission? Do you know what you said to me about what you just, why is this so huge? Why I asked you? I was wondering if you were going to say this. You guys, you won't remember this. We were at a friend's house.
Starting point is 01:21:16 You know whose house it was that lives on the ocean. and you and I walked into the kitchen and I kept telling you, you're in this room and you're like, I've met these guys now. And it's not that big of a deal. And I said, Irwin, you could impact millions of people.
Starting point is 01:21:30 And you said, Ed, and you kind of had this cringe when you said it to me. You go, I think I'm going to allow myself to make some real money now. And even when you said it, there was this discomfort in you. I said,
Starting point is 01:21:42 Irwin, you have permission to do that. You just got to give it to yourself. Now, I don't know that you remember that moment, but I know where I was standing in the kitchen when you said it. And I just want everybody to hear this. This is a man who's coached some of the most influential people in the world, top people in industries come to him. And even in his case,
Starting point is 01:21:59 he had to give himself permission to allow some form of abundance to flow into his life because of some sort of a limiting belief around it. Now, if that's true of someone with his eloquence and brilliance, are any of you suffering with something that you're not giving yourself permission to feel, whether that be joy or love or the love of God, your faith? to know you can be somewhere in eternity. Maybe it's wealth. Maybe it's physical health. But there's probably something today
Starting point is 01:22:25 that you're not allowing yourself or giving yourself permission to have and feel and give yourself the gift today like Irwin did. And by the way, once Irwin unlocked that type of permission, he had more financial abundance, but his impact grew with the world changers he now affects, right? And that opened up other lanes for you. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:22:44 One of the things I realize for myself is, I'm just not motivated by money. It just is not a good, motivated for me, but I am motivated and seeing people's lives changed. And instead of waiting for someone to finance the vision we have to impact the world, we create the wealth, we finance it, we help millions of people. It's just so much more exciting to be perfectly honest. Yeah. That was a great conversation. And if you want to hear the full interview, be sure to follow the Ed Milet show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. Here's an excerpt I did with our next
Starting point is 01:23:14 guest. Welcome back to Max Out, everybody. I'm Ed Milet. Let me ask you a question before we begin. today, do you have any sense right now like you feel like you're just overloaded and you're overwhelmed with information in your life? Maybe you're having a hard time getting focused. You get distracted pretty easily. Maybe your concentration sort of suffers a little bit, your memory issues. Well, my guest here today is an expert on optimum brain performance, on learning, on learning quickly and on maxing out your capacity to think and perform in your life.
Starting point is 01:23:44 And it was really born out of some tragedy, out of some difficult events out of his childhood, he's turned those tragic events into becoming a world-renowned expert on brain performance. And today, I'm really blessed because I've been chasing this guy for a while. I've wanted him to share his brilliance with you, the audience. And I'm grateful that he's here today because we're about to change your life and change the way you learn, think and perform. So my guest today is the great Jim Quick. Jim, thank you. Ed, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:24:11 I've been looking forward to this so much. Me too, brother. We've had great conversations off camera. And I'm so excited because I'm so excited because I'm. know there are some shows I know that we do that are inspirational and then there shows I know that are going to inspire but also by the end of the program people's lives are just measurably better and they can perform better and today is heavy note-taking if you're driving in the car you're gonna want to
Starting point is 01:24:32 hear it but you're gonna want to get back and listen to the video or something to write the notes down we're gonna cover so I want to share something with you because it just happened this weekend and I just from my folks here too I think one of mine is that I am present with people yeah and I do observe people. And so it's really interesting because I think that's one of the things that I love about doing the show. And it was fascinating because I never gave any thought as to where that came from. Because I mean, your brain brilliance comes from the fact that you had this damaged brain as a child. Yet it's one of your great gifts and one of the great things you're intelligent
Starting point is 01:25:07 at, one of your geniuses. And so this weekend somebody had asked me, why do you think like on your show or even we were at a dinner, you're so present, you're listening. What do you're you? think that comes from? And I didn't know. I didn't. I thought about it. And I said, you know, I'm not sure, but you know, it's interesting. My dad was, my dad's sober 30 years now, but when I was a little boy, my dad was a had a drinking problem. And I never knew as a little boy which dad was going to come through the front door at night. And so unlike most kids who would run up and hug dad, I would observe dad when he came home. And so when dad walked through the front door, I'd look at his physiology. I'd look at his eyes, his face, his lips. I'd live. I'd live.
Starting point is 01:25:47 to what his first few words were. And I think since I was about a four-year-old little boy, I was sort of, through that unfortunate circumstance in my family, I developed this intelligence of being present and really being with someone and understanding them and connecting with them and seeing where they really were, and it's ended up serving me as a 47-year-old man with you here today.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Wow. Isn't that interesting? For some of you listening, I would just say to you that sometimes some of your great genius could be coming from some of what you would think might be some of the more tragic events in your life or difficult events. So just think about that. And the self-talk also, you know, when I said, I had the, you know, at age nine, a teacher
Starting point is 01:26:27 looked at me, said, that's the boy with the broken brain for the whole class. You know, and parents and adults have to be very careful because your external words become a child's internal words. Because every single time I did bad on a quiz, on a test, or not pick for a sports team, which was all the time, I would say, oh, because I had the broken brain. That became my internal conversation. And I always tell people when they come to me and they say, I'm not smart enough. I'm not good enough. I have a horrible memory.
Starting point is 01:26:49 I always say, if you fight for your limitations, you get to keep them. If you fight for your limitations, you argue for your limits, they're yours, right? And here's the thing. Your brain is like a supercomputer, and your self-talk is a program it will run. So if you tell yourself you're not good at remembering names, you will not remember the name the next person you meet, because you program your supercomputer not to. They say the two most powerful words in English language are also the smallest,
Starting point is 01:27:12 I am. Because whatever you put after that, complete that sentence with, is going to determine your destination, your destiny. I'm so glad you're saying this because this is typically said by like, you know what I mean to it? Right. Motivational people are inspiring people. Now we've got a brain person.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Science telling you this is a fact. So your identity is this. So let's say at a simple level, let's say people want to change their behavior, they want to stop procrastinating. Yes. But their identity is I'm a procrastinator. Yes. Ooh, that's going to be a tough one.
Starting point is 01:27:41 They want to change a behavior like, oh, I want to stop smoking. But their identity is I am. a smoker, wow, that's going to be a challenge, right? So here's the thing, the reason I bring these distinctions up is because it takes the self-loathing or the judgment out of it because you don't have to, if you're not good at something, you could say like, oh, you could address the level that's holding you back. Finally, below the level of behavior, and this is a big one, is the environment, is the level of environment, environment, because you could, the behaviors you want to stop smoking, but the environment
Starting point is 01:28:12 is around a lot of smokers. Because it's not, here's the thing. The people you spend time with is people you become. You know this, you teach this, because your mirror neurons are always imitating what's around you. And that's the thing. So I want to sensitize you to, because often the people that hold us back are the people that love us the most. You know, because you know why they're like, oh, you're going to another event. You're listening to another podcast.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Why are reading another book, spending all that money? And they can have good intentions. Sure. Right. Because ultimately people are doing things for, you know, generally I believe for good reasons. But they can be sincere, but they can be sincerely wrong. Sincerely wrong. And I love the I've not this yet.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Right. I also want to just repeat things that just we just, you say brilliant things one after the other. And so this idea that as a parent, your external dialogue becomes your child's internal dialogue is just riveting. I mean, it's riveting. And it's also true, I think, of leaders and companies, too. Your external dialogue about your company or about that individual can become their internal dialogue. So what you're saying matters so deeply. There are six primary questions we learned in school.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Five Ws and one age, right? Now watch this. The identity level answers the question of who. The beliefs and values answer the question of why. The capabilities answer the question of how you do it. The behavior is the what and the environment answers the question of when and where. It is fully aligned. And so I feel like we have natural genius inside of us and if we, when this is aligned with
Starting point is 01:29:39 this, when people talk about their mind and their body and their values and the habits, when they're all aligned, things happen naturally. and they're not, have been forced. And my goal for everybody who's watching and listening to this is that they're smarter than they think. It's just we weren't taught how to do these things. And when you're in congruence and in alignment, things happen, your natural superpowers, if you will,
Starting point is 01:29:58 come out organically and are not forced. Boy, that's, man, brother, that's so good. I'm processing all of this with you. They'll be mad at me if I don't ask you a tactical question. Absolutely. So can you give them, I'm going to get a couple more, more things, but thank you for taking the extra time. Bill, I'll get, I'll get DMs
Starting point is 01:30:18 and emails if I don't ask you. Tactically ask him a specific tactic to remember a name. So I have Max out. Perfect. Do you do an association when you remember something like that? I do. I do.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Really fast. I would say, be suave. Be suave. I'll give you really quick. B is believe. Right? Believe you can. Believe you can.
Starting point is 01:30:35 You're right. So stop the negative self-talk. Okay. Right. So that, that's obvious. The second thing is E is exercise. We already talked about power of exercise. Practice.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Because the bad news is it takes practice to learn someone's name. The good news, not as much as you think. I'm really good at names, but after practicing for a couple months, it's just become second nature. Just like parking in a car or learning how to type, you do it without thinking. The swab is this. S stands for say the name. When tactically, when you meet somebody, you say their name back to them, right? Because you make sure you observe it correctly.
Starting point is 01:31:06 The U is you use the name. It's three or four times. You talk about that. The A is you ask about a name. This is really great, Ed, when you meet somebody whose name you haven't heard before. You meet someone named Afzal or Riddiger. What can you ask about a person's name? You already said this.
Starting point is 01:31:21 You already said it's not travel entrepreneurship. What's everyone's favorite subject? It's themselves. So what can you ask about a person's name? How do you spell it? Where is it from? What does it mean? I was doing this training at the country's largest life insurance company.
Starting point is 01:31:33 100 people in the room. The training director's name was Nanquita. I was like in front of the whole group. I was like, that's a beautiful name. How do you spell it? Where's it from? What does it mean? And she paused.
Starting point is 01:31:42 I was like, Nahita, what does it mean? She looked at all her coworkers that says, she said, it means graceful, falling waters. And I was like, wow. And then her coworkers gave that kind of reaction, like a novel. And I was like, wait a second, how long you worked here? She was like, you know, X amount of years. With these people, yeah, a lot of them good friends are at my wedding. I was like, out of the hundred, I was like, raise your hand if you knew that's
Starting point is 01:32:01 what her name meant. I'd have 100 people, how many people raised her hand? Zero. Wow. And talk about like caring. That became like a 10 year client, right? Because that's the power of a name. the emotion, right?
Starting point is 01:32:12 So ask about a person's name. And then V and B-Swab stands for Visualize. And here's a real tactical thing. We tend to be better with faces than names, right? Aren't you? Far bad. You meet a lot of people. Sure.
Starting point is 01:32:26 People come and you meet somebody, you say to him, I remember your face, but I forgot your name. You never go to someone say the opposite. You never go to someone. I remember your name, but I forgot your face. That wouldn't make any sense. But here's the reason why, for neurological, your visual cortex is a lot larger than other parts of your brain.
Starting point is 01:32:40 So you tend to remember what you see. Now if you tend to remember which there's Chinese proverb that goes what I hear I forget what I see I remember what I Do I understand what I hear I forget I heard the name. I forgot the name what I see I remember I I remember the face I'll remember the face What I do going back to practice and exercise. I understand So if you tend to remember what you see try seeing what you remember so quick visual aid is this play pictionary A person's name for example is mark Take a split second and put a checkmark on their forehead and you're like Jim that's so childish
Starting point is 01:33:08 Who are the fastest learners on the planet? Children. children. How fast can they learn a musical instrument? How fast can they learn another language? They're sponges. And part of how they remember names is they make fun of people. Like they go to somebody you're like, you know, they go to someone named Jason and Jason
Starting point is 01:33:23 the Basin, right? And all of a sudden like Jason's in therapy for years, not knowing, you know, because he was teeth. But that's how you learn, banana, fana, faux fan. You learn through imagery, right? And they make fun. And so remember, more emotion too. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Information, you forget, information combined with emotion. So person's name is Mary. Imagine meets when they marry, handshake break. imagine she's getting married or she's carrying two lambs under her arms. And here's the thing. It overcomes in business what I call the six-second rule. Somebody tells you something important in a conversation or their name. You have six seconds to do something with it.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Otherwise, what happens? You lose it. It's gone. Out of your working memory, short-term memory, it's gone. Got it. So this helps you to focus uniquely on both the person and also the name. So a person's name, so for example, is let's say, Carol. Imagine they're singing Christmas carols.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Yes. A person's name is Mike. Imagine them jumping on the table, singing on a microphone for a split second. And then when you say goodbye to them 20 minutes later, you're like, oh, that guy was sitting on the karaoke on the microphone, what's the name? Mike. Right? Because it glues it.
Starting point is 01:34:25 It's a short term because once you know the person's name is Ed or Athena or Mike or whatever, what will happen is... You just named everybody here. Sorry, sorry. Once you do that, then the pictures disappear because you know it. You just need something to glue it because there's three parts of your memory. You encode the information, you store the information, then you retrieve the information. But most people can't retrieve it because they're not encoding in a way that makes it memorable.
Starting point is 01:34:47 So you make it visual, you make it fun and interesting. So if first name is John, you can imagine whatever. And then finally, that's the V. The Ian Swab stands for end. You always end the conversation using their name, saying goodbye using the name. Because if you could walk into a room of strangers and leave saying goodbye to 20 strangers by name, who are they all going to remember? They're going to, and that's a standout skill.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Because it's not just what you know, yes, yes, you can learn faster. It's not only who you know, but it's also who knows you. Who knows you? Who's going to remember you? That is awesome. That is awesome, awesome. And the six second rule, if you don't use it, you lose it. So do something within the first seconds.
Starting point is 01:35:25 That is brilliant. There are a few obstacles to effective reading. So let's go through them really quickly. Number one, what keeps you from reading slow is lack of education. You're not born with the ability to read. Nobody is. Right. And so we learned it through class.
Starting point is 01:35:39 through a training, right? But when's the last time you took a class called a reading? How old are you? Probably six. Six or seven years old, right? Exactly. So we are still, every single person watching this, for the most part, we're still reading like we're a six or seven-year-old.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Because that's the last time we had training in that one area. The difficulty demand has increased tremendously, but we're still reading like a six-year-old. So that's number one. Get the proper education. Lack of education. Number two, lack of focus. We could all relate to this.
Starting point is 01:36:07 You read a page in a book, you get to the end, Just forget what you just read. Of course. Because your attention is everywhere. Your mind wanders. You're thinking about the dry cleaning, the clients, everything, the kids. So here's a thing. You just mentioned that if you read faster, you feel like you wouldn't retain as much and understand as much.
Starting point is 01:36:22 I know it's not true. It's not because we weren't taught differently. Right? And so what I would say is the fastest. So I think it's a myth being spread around by slow readers that if you read faster, you wouldn't understand as much because it's a lie. And this is interesting because we have online academy, right, of a speech. and we have students in over 180 countries so we have a lot of data and we found the fastest readers actually have the best comprehension because they have the best
Starting point is 01:36:47 focus okay so here's it is a metaphor your brain is this incredible supercomputer but when you read you feed this supercomputer one word add a time metaphorically you're starving your mind okay right and even if we were to talk like that through this conversation it would be like days to you right right begin what would happen to people very quickly if they were talking that slow their mind would wander they would fall asleep they would think about other things they would just didn't and isn't that aren't those the same exact things that happen when you read yes your mind wanders you'll fall asleep you start thinking about other things because if you don't give your
Starting point is 01:37:29 brain the stimulus it needs it'll seek entertainment elsewhere in the form of distraction got Third obstacle, this is the big one. Sub vocalization. Yeah. Okay, this is the big one. By far, we're talking about your inner voice. Sub vocalization means you ever notice when you're reading something, you hear the inner voice inside of your head reading along with you. You hear that, hopefully it's your own voice.
Starting point is 01:37:49 It's not like somebody else's voice. The reading why keeps you reading slow. The reason why is because if you have to say all the words to understand them, you can only read as fast as you could speak. And that, this is mind-blowing to me. Sub-vocal speech, sub, like a submarine. like a submarine, inner speech. If you're saying the words to understand what you're reading, you're doing it not right.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Because New York City, you don't have to say the word New York City or computer to understand what those, just like when you're driving. You see a stop sign, you don't say to yourself, stop. 95% of the words, do you understand what that stop sign means though? Yes. 95% of words are words you've seen before. You don't have to pronounce the words. You know, leaders are readers, right?
Starting point is 01:38:27 You read a lot, Tony Robbins read a lot. You know, like Oprah reads a lot, Bill Gates reads a lot. like John F. Kennedy, you know, leaders or readers, he was a very fast reader. He was said to have read every morning six newspapers with one cup of coffee. Most people is the opposite. It takes like six cups of coffee to get through like a newspaper, right? And that's the challenge. But he's, you know, let's say, you know, he said to read 800 to 1,000 words a minute.
Starting point is 01:38:51 But if he could talk at the hour talking to you about 200, 250 words per minute, there are like 700 words per minute. He's not pronouncing, right? You don't have to pronounce words you've seen before, but that's how we were taught as a kid. Like a lot of what accelerated learning is, just like success, is unlearning, bad habits. When you were a kid, you had to say the words out loud because the teacher need to know you're pronouncing the words phonetically correctly. But later on, remember this, your teacher said, read quietly to yourself, read silently to yourself. And that's when you used to that external voice and you put it internal there, and it's been there ever since.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Here's a point. When we listen to podcasts or audiobooks, how many people like to listen to it at 1.5 or 2x or 3x? And they can understand it too. Yes. You can't talk that fast though. And that's the thing, right? And so that's why sub vocalization is saying, basically, if you're sub vocalizing, your reading speed is limited to your talking speed, not your thinking speed. You can understand so much more, so much faster, but you can't talk that fast.
Starting point is 01:39:44 It's a bad habit we picked up as a kid. So we did a whole podcast on how to reduce sub vocalization, right? Or our programs, like over 21, 30 days, we teach people methodically how to do it because there's different than a tip than a trainer. Fourth obstacle, I would say, and then we go to solution, regression. It's a very bad habit we picked up as a kid. Regression is back skipping. You ever notice you read something, you go back and reread words or you reread a whole line by accident?
Starting point is 01:40:09 You know, upwards of 20, 25 percent time can be spent rereading words. So how do you, now, now, I'm going to give you just one tip on how to overcome this, which will make a big difference. This tip is going to help you read 25 to 50 percent faster with better focus. Now that's a huge return because like, like, on average, our online program, 300% increase. I know right now people are like, okay, how do I get more information? information from this person. And so I want to make sure they know where to go find you.
Starting point is 01:40:34 The first one is you've referenced this podcast that you have. And I'm a subscriber. There's just stuff every single time you're on there that is valuable. And I like that oftentimes it's not even very long. Oftentimes it's just digestible stuff. So how do they find your podcast? So on anyone's podcast app, search my name, Jim, KWI K. And that is his real name, by the way.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I didn't change it to do it. My father's name, my grandfather's name. My life was pretty much planned out. So go get your podcast. And then- Or they go to go to, the best way is actually go to quickbrain.com. KW at KBrain.com. There are actually videos on speed reading, remember names.
Starting point is 01:41:06 I take a live audience up there and they do that. And then all my links to podcasts are there. So for podcasts and your website, both are also where they can get involved with your programs, too, if they choose to, correct? And then also you've got a great Instagram account. Yeah. I mean, the podcast episodes also, we've done episodes on the top 10 brain foods, how to change your habits, how to change your limiting beliefs.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Everything that has to do cognition, we do it in 10 or 15 minutes. Okay. So brain hacks are busy people and learn faster to achieve more. Brain hacks are awesome. And then I love your Instagram. Thank you. You know, and it's so wonderful. And so I do the lives and the Q&As that are there.
Starting point is 01:41:39 And so we like to post things that are just brain hacks. Because his Instagram is, you're going to get addicted to it. It's outstanding. Like yours. And I would challenge people again ending with this to take a screenshot of this episode. Tag us both on there and then share. Remember what you teach, you get to learn twice and you own it. Share your big a haas or your questions.
Starting point is 01:41:57 And I'll actually, I'll repost some of my favorite. So do I. So do I. So please do that, everybody. Take a screenshot. Tag both of us. Tell us what your biggest takeaway was. So in finishing, you know, people, when we're done here, they're going to wish I wish, you know, I'd ask you so many more things. We got so much done today. But you're such a, you know, just a wealth of knowledge. It's unbelievable. I hope people take me pictures even of their notes. I'd be curious if they tag that. They're going to be long. I can tell you that because we've covered so much today and thank you. But I think probably, you know, one of the things that I think most people that are listening to this, they're trying to change things. Whether that be a habit or change their life in general. and you're an expert at this. If someone said they got, I always do this, they got two minutes with Jim Quick. They ran into you at your Starbucks
Starting point is 01:42:37 and you were as busy as you are, you said, I'll give you two minutes. And they could ask you something. I think the vast majority of the people would say, I want to change something in my life, whether that be a habit or the external results in my life. I wanna create a change. What would you say to that person?
Starting point is 01:42:52 Where do they begin? What would be a step they could take? What would be a thought they would have in order to create change? So the obvious thing to say is lifelong learning, commit yourself to lifelong learning, but that'll be preaching in the choir. Because if someone's watching this right now or listening to this, they are exceptional. And I applaud anyone who's made it all the way to the end.
Starting point is 01:43:10 What I would say is self-love is not selfish. I feel like the biggest challenge people have in life is this fear that they're not enough. I believe that's what holds us back. And people talk about themselves in relationships. I think we grow a lot in our intimate relationships because they're a mirror to us. I also feel like you have to fall in love again with the person in the mirror who has been through so much but is still standing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:43:37 Yes. And when's the last time, you know, learning in love, I always wish people, you know, this year and their days before lots of life, lots of love, lots of laughter, and lots of learning. But I think they go hand at hand. And self-love, it's kind of, I don't want to, you know, people could put it into a hold hands and sing kumbaya. I'm saying do the things that you would do for yourself because I feel like we're happy when two things happened. This made my advice. Number one, you need the curiosity to know
Starting point is 01:44:04 yourself, right? Because that's self-awareness. That's why we meditate. That's why we journal. That's why we listen to things. It's self-reflection. We have intimate relationship. We build businesses because they puts us through tests and shows us who we really are. So have the curiosity to know yourself. But once you know yourself, you need the courage to be yourself. You know what I mean? And that's a different game. Totally different. You know, and a lot of us, you know, when we're looking back, again, we don't want to have those regrets and the expectations of other people. And that's where I think people could, they limit themselves. So I would say my advice to somebody right now is to make sure you dedicate time every single
Starting point is 01:44:42 day to self-care, you know, and really spend the time to not only know yourself, but give yourself permission to really be yourself. Because I feel like everyone makes smart goals, right? They're specific and they're measurable and they're action-oriented and they're, they're realistic and they're time bound and I'm all for that when I'm sending goals but also make them heart goals Remember I talked about the power of the heart? Yes You know make them H healthy in every area of your life make sure that they're they're healthy in your ecology of your life I would also say e make them enduring you know make them enduring so as we go through hard times which invariably will
Starting point is 01:45:16 in business and in life and relationships and health make sure that they they're inspiring enough to be able to get you through those hard times the a is make them alluring a luring mean they pull you right They're so attractive. They just get you out of bed. They're learning. The R is relevant, meaning you want to make them relevant because a lot of people set goals, but are they solving a personal problem for you? Are they really relevant to your particular values in life and in relationships and business?
Starting point is 01:45:43 And finally, the T, I think it's the most important one, when you're setting goals, make them your truth. Because so many people are setting goals and a vision that's not really theirs. They picked it up from their parents. You know, they're doctors because their parents were doctors. or they're picking up from the Joneses or something outside. You know, know your truth and live from there.

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