THE ED MYLETT SHOW - The Man Behind The Mic w/ Jeff Foxworthy

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

JEFF FOXWORTHY has been telling JOKES and making people LAUGH for a long time.   Which is why it’s so incredible that this week show is one of the DEEPEST and most MEANINGFUL programs I’ve ever... done We go deep on  LIFEFAITH SUCCESS CANCEL CULTURE THE GOOD OLD DAYS  And it’s truly an INCREDIBLE CONVERSATION.One I’m truly GRATEFUL to have participated in and I think you’ll be grateful that you listen to it or watched it You know Jeff best from his BLUE COLLAR COMEDY TOURS with Larry the Cable Guy, Bill Engvall, and Ron White as well as THE JEFF FOXWORTHY SHOW, and the quiz show ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A 5TH GRADER.  He’s authored several books and recorded six comedy albums, including two that were certified 3x PLATINUM. But there’s a lot more to Jeff than just being a guy who tells “you might be a redneck” one-liners. This week’s podcast peels back the funny to reveal a DIFFERENT SIDE OF JEFF, from many years of struggles during his early years, to how the BIBLE has shaped and guided his daily life.   One of the gifts of being a comedian is that not only are you a great storyteller, but you’re also a great observer of the HUMAN CONDITION.  In fact, that’s where your humor often springs from.  Jeff has also channeled those observational powers into watching how people deal or don’t deal with their problems. He’s also got great advice about LETTING GO of what you can't control, WHY FAILING A LOT is a key to success, and not putting yourself in situations that will ruin your life.   We also get into how comedy has changed in recent years, especially as it relates to comedians and CANCEL CULTURE.  Despite these kinds of challenges, Jeff talks openly about the JOYS OF BEING A COMEDIAN and how he remains RELEVANT and MOTIVATED while balancing the ongoing demands of being a celebrity.   You’re going to like the hour we all spend together with Jeff.  He’s got great stories to tell and great takes to download.   And that, my friends, is no joke.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the end my let's show. Welcome back to the program everybody. I'm so excited to have this man here today because I've been a fan of his work for a long time. But as I started to research him, I became a bigger fan of the man behind the microphone. What he stands for and his story in his life. I think there's going to be an amazing amount of lessons on life and success and abundance here today. He's got a new special out that is hilarious on Netflix called The Good Old Days. He also happens to be the number one seller of comedy albums
Starting point is 00:00:37 in the history of the planet earth like, of ever. So that's kind of a big deal. But I'm more impressed with the kind of man, husband, and father that he is as I've learned more about him So Jeff Foxworthy welcome to the show brother. I'm honored to be here. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I got to tell you your special Everyone you got to go watch the good old days. It's one of the few things Jeff That my wife and I actually agree on when we watch art or comedy usually I'll watch a comedian I think they're really really fun. It's like I just don't get it, you know, and then you know to meet and then they've got stuff she loves. I'm like, this is terrible. Turn this off. I can't do an hour of this, right?
Starting point is 00:01:11 So I got to tell you, one, it's clean for everybody who wants to listen to something that's clean, but it's very rare man in my house that we both agree something's funny and this special was definitely it. So well done. My wife and I have those shows like, is she like some of them that I go, you know what, I'm on the road next weekend. So why don't you save that? Until I'm on the road and you can watch that. Because this thing doing nothing for me. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Save me, man. So I want to talk about you a little bit. We'll talk about the special too. But you know, you're, I'm always fascinated. So as my audience, with people that become mega successful at something, I call it max out, they've maxed out a particular area of their life, whether that be family or business, money, their career. You seem to have done that in a bunch of different areas, yet as I dug into you a little bit, you don't really come from that.
Starting point is 00:01:57 So let's just start with, because I think it gives people hope. I mean, these stats were true, guys. Number one selling comedy album, person of all time. And it's not like I needed to introduce them. Everybody knows who Jeff Foxworthy is. So something good's happened there. But your dad was kind of an interesting dude, right?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Tell him a little bit about your dad and where you come from. My dad grew up in the country in Georgia, the little town called Sandersville. And went to work for IBM. And so he met my mom. They got married. My dad was a character in that he was a good dude.
Starting point is 00:02:32 But when he was five years old, his dad literally went out for a pack of cigarettes and never came back. And so that, you know, that did something to him. And so he ended up leaving when I was young. He ended up being married six times and had a thousand girlfriends in between. My mom went to church five times a week and didn't smoke, didn't drink, didn't cuss.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And so they were total polar opposites. But there's something that happens to you as a kid. No matter what your parents say, when one leaves you, you feel like you weren't worth sticking around for. And no matter what they say, that's what you feel deep down inside is I wasn't worth sticking around for.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And so kind of early in life, I was like, all right, if I ever have kids, my kids aren't gonna feel this way, you know? And I didn't, I was always fascinated by comedy. When I was a kid, I used to just, by comedy records and memorizing me go to school and do them. Looking back, I totally believe it's a God-given gift. This was the gift that I was given. I have no idea why I can do it, but if you said to me, hey, go write me 100 jokes about home security,
Starting point is 00:03:48 I could do it, I could just take a piece of paper, whatever the subject, and I could, I don't know why I can do it, but so that's why it's a gift is the same way other people can create music, or the same way people can make a brick wall that just looks beautiful. You know, it's their gift.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And so I can't even have ego about it because I mean, I really can't. I don't know why I can do it. I love it. I'm so thankful that I've gotten to make a living doing it. And I've worked at it. I mean, I, I felt like, all right, you've, you've been entrusted with this. You're the steward of this gift. What are you going to do with it? And so I always worked really hard at it, you've been entrusted with this. You're the steward of this gift. What are you going to do with it?
Starting point is 00:04:25 And so I always worked really hard at it, you know. What do you think of it? There's no keys to being a good storyteller. I'm just curious, because I think the ability to tell a story transcends everything almost. It makes you a better father, mother, business person, sales person, stand up, actor, whatever it might be, telling a story is a really important skill in life that most people, I don't think, ever realize they probably
Starting point is 00:04:52 should get pretty good at. I think you're 100% right. We all know somebody at work that's like a great joke teller and somebody that's a terrible joke teller. And I think the good one, they learn to keep in the things that only the things that are needed. The people that are not good at it, throw in all these ingredients
Starting point is 00:05:13 that you don't really need to make it work. But there is an art to it. And I think part of it is being interested in stories. You know, you're that guy. You wanna know somebody's story. Everybody I meet, I'm like, so what's your story? Where are you from? You know, I want to know where to grow up. How do you grow up?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Because I'm interested. Yeah. Same here. I think that that's, especially in sales, and I tell people all the time, like less is more, you know, even than go. Bingo. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I think they add too much to their pitch, because the more, when you're in business, the more you know, the more you add to the story, the more you think you need to tell them, you know more facts, you know more information, just get to the point. But I want to go back just for a second because I think it was a really powerful thing you said. You said that no matter what, you happens when you're a parent in this divorce situation, that when you leave, that that child feels something they shouldn't feel, I heard you leave, that that child feels something they shouldn't feel, I heard you say that you really grew up feeling like you weren't worth staying for.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And I was, I'm out with you Jeff, I was driving in my car prepping for this, you know, I listened to different stuff. And I started to like get all filled up in the eyes, thinking about, it's probably a lot of men right now, not just men, women too, but they're thinking right now, maybe I'm going to leave my family and go get a new one, get something shiny, air in newer or younger or less drama. What would you say to someone who's thinking about, maybe right now, thinking about doing something like that, who's got babies or kids at home?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Not even about your spouse, what it does with your kids is it breaks a trust. You know, and trust is a weird thing. I'm a visual guy. So I imagine it like a coffee cup and it's built just a drop at a time, a drop at a time, and it fills up with trust. But when you lose trust, you dump it all out of it. It's all gone in one second. And I think that's what happens when parents leave their kids is their kids look at you and go, crap, I thought it was you and I, I thought it was you and I above anything else.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And if it's and you can walk away from me, then even though we might repair this, you're gonna see where the glue was because there was a big trust broken here between you and I. And I mean, I would encourage people to really think about that before you do it. And I know people get in situations where it's just unbearable. But you always think about the husband and the wife. It's the kids that carry the most of it through life. Before COVID hit, I had spent 12 years leading a men's group
Starting point is 00:07:54 on Tuesday mornings at the homeless shelter in Atlanta. And most people end up in a homeless shelter because of some type of addiction. But the longer that I worked there and got to know these people, in a homeless shelter because of some type of addiction. But the longer that I worked there and got to know these people, what you realize is something bad happened in them early in life.
Starting point is 00:08:13 They either got abused physically sexually, they got abandoned, something bad happened to them. And the hurt was so great that they couldn't deal with it on their own. So as they got older, they started numbing to it. Might be with alcohol, might be with drugs, but they started numbing to it. Well, when you're doing that, you're not employable. You're not somebody that a company can depend on.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So you're not employable. You can't have your own space because you can't pay for your rent. So you're hanging around with your friends and your family and you're taking from them to the point where they go, no more, I can't do this anymore. And that's how people end up on the street. And so the addiction's just the symptom, the diseases that hurt that happened when they were young. And so if you can ever go back and deal with that hurt and drag it out of that locked up basement room in the soul and pull it up the stairs and pull it out in the front yard and let the sun hit it and call it what it was, then they had a chance to get better.
Starting point is 00:09:16 They had a chance to put their life back together. By the way, you're welcome, everybody. I told you this is going to be a special conversation today. I, by the way, on the divorce, nice ones, everyone, I have a book out coming out soon called The Power of One More. My dad was an alcoholic, then became sober for 35 years, and he had tried to get sober very many, many times.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And one of the chapters in my book is called One More Try. The reason that it's in there is my dad gave getting sober one more try. And that one more try when there was no evidence that he probably could was the time that it worked and he stayed sober for 35 years, ironically one day at a time. And my dad was one of those guys with that hurt. I just think if you're thinking of leaving in your family, I'm not saying that there's all shame in doing it and there's circumstance where you should, but maybe I'll give it one more try.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And I think that's what we're saying. The other thing that just went past there because he has humility, Jeff just sort of barely touched on this. But I want you to imagine you're one of the most famous people on the planet. And you end up what you do on Tuesdays, which is what he started to do. He starts basically a men's group of Bible study with homeless people at a shelter. This is what this man has been doing for over a decade to help people. And he just sort of glossed over that. But that's not an everyday thing a celebrity's doing or really even an everyday person is doing. We're all everyday people. I really researched you, bro. And you walk in there, a friend takes you there, right?
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah. I have to have him here this story because that it sort of changed you because we all have judgment. We all make assessments. And by the way, everyone listen to this, you judge yourself. A lot of you carry a lot of shame with a divorce she been through a bankruptcy or a mistake you've made and you carry these bags around with you and you think, okay, this disqualifies me from being happy. This disqualifies me from being successful. You know, I don't come from the right family or I left all these things you think you've done and you carry them all your life as some barrier between you and your happiness. So you walk into this homeless shelter, if you were to might tell in a story,
Starting point is 00:11:09 your buddy brings you there and you meet this dude Jason, right? I even remember the guy's name. Because the story's so powerful. And you're right on the money with that assessment is, you know, every morning as I'm kind of doing my devotional, I ask God, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:23 let me get off the judgment seat. I do not want to judge people. But so for a long time, my wife and I were like the head of fundraising for the Duke Children's Hospital up in North Carolina, my brother played football at Duke. And so that was the connection. So I was always doing stuff with kids with cancer. And I honestly had nothing to do with homeless people. My dealing with homeless people was to roll the window down and have them five bucks go away. And so a guy invites me to lunch down at the shelter.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And the first kid I meet is first person in the shelter. It's this 21 year old kid. And I'm looking at me healthy. I'm like, dude, what the hell are you doing in a homeless shelter? Go get a job." And his name was Jason and he sat down with us. And like I said earlier, I asked, I said, so Jason, what's your story? You know, why are you here? And Jason said, well, it was me
Starting point is 00:12:16 and my mom and dad and my brother. He said, then when I was 12, my mom killed herself. He said, in two years after that, my brother killed himself and it was me and my dad and my second year of college, my dad killed himself. And he said, I got to the point, I could not hurt anymore. So I started smoking crack. And then I'm sitting there going, well, I would have started smoking crack. I don't blame you one bit. Nobody can handle that kind of pain.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And that's how we ended up on the street. But from being down there, and you know, I kind of did this, and it's all the things that I missed from my dad, and I don't remember the actual moment that had happened, but I just made God and my dad, but cause of the prodigal son story. He said, you can't do anything bad enough
Starting point is 00:13:14 to make me love you any less, and you can't do anything good enough to make me love you any more. I just love you with all that I am. That is who I am as a father. And so my dad won there and I'm like, all right, if you're here every day and you love me whether I screw up
Starting point is 00:13:30 or whether I do good, you're gonna be my dad. And so I'm just like, all right, my dad's here and they're saying, trust me, there's still days, I'm 63 years old that I go, dad can I just climb up in your lap and you rub my head right now, because I don't know what to do. And that's kind of the point that Jason got to. But the cool thing was Jason got off crack. Really? You know, and Jason went back to college, got his degree
Starting point is 00:13:58 and he spent a practice in nurse for almost seven years. No way. I didn't hear that part of it. No way. Yeah. Oh cool. Yeah, think about it. It just makes me want to cry. I mean, yeah. Yeah. You're such an interesting guy to me. All these years, I've always sent the kind of like the Holy Spirit on you.
Starting point is 00:14:17 There's just a kindness to you and your work. And I have to tell you, I was watching this talk. You gave them driving and I had to go into a meeting. And I think I'm gonna study on this guy, it was really funny. I have to go into this meeting, and it's about 30 minutes into about an hour long talk that Jeff gave that you can all get on YouTube. It's called Purpose on Tap.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I just think it's special. And I found myself, I'm not getting out of the car. And here I am, I'm 50 year old man in my car in this parking lot, and I'm late for this meeting, and I'm not letting myself go into this meeting until you're finished speaking because it was that big of an impact it made on me. And I'm not that rarely something like that happens. Anybody.
Starting point is 00:14:54 So I just want to acknowledge you for that, man. I mean, you've made me laugh a lot in my life, but more recently, you've really made me think and contemplate and evaluate. And as I was looking at you, I want to make sure I acknowledge that. As I was looking at you, I'm thinking, sure I acknowledge that, you know. As I was looking at you, I'm thinking, you not come from a dad as an alcoholic. Jason comes from this background, that's just three billion times worse than you and I.
Starting point is 00:15:14 But you are a little guy whose dad leaves, right? And that's a difficult thing. What do you think the difference is? Because some people use that story as sort of cover to be a victim, their entire life for their lack of happiness or success? Other people can come from the same exact household and they make a success of their life or they do something pretty special with their life. What do you think that difference is?
Starting point is 00:15:39 I don't know because my sister has been kind of mad at my dad, her whole life. And I will say to her, you know, this is a poison you're making but you're drinking. He's been dead since 1999. Even if he wanted to change it, he couldn't change it. It's done. But I don't know what makes some people deal with it and some people don't. Do you remember, do you remember like an old Dan Fogelberg song, Run For the Roses?
Starting point is 00:16:11 Absolutely. About the horse that's born in the minimum. And there's, it's talking about running for the roses in the Kentucky Derby, but there's a line in that song and it used to hit me. I was like a teenager, where it said it's breeding and it's training and it's something unknown. And that something unknown would always make my eyes well up. I'm like, but it was like,
Starting point is 00:16:32 I had something in my gut that said, I'm going to be okay. I'm going to, I don't know where I'm going but I'm going to make it. And I mean, not even doing this like some kind of prosperity thing, I think this will sit well with you. So a few years ago, I'm doing an interview and the lady said to me, she said, well, you just stand up comedy, you write books, you host game shows, you paint,
Starting point is 00:16:58 you draw, which one are you? And I went, well, that's a weird question. And I said, well, those are all things that I do. I said, and I love what I do. And I love the fact that I get to do more than one thing. I said, but when you say, which one? It's not who I am, who I am is. I'm a dad and I'm a husband and I'm a brother and I'm a son and I'm a person of this community and I'm a child of God. So as I go through my life, what I do may change dozens of times, but hopefully who I am stays consistent across all of it. And I just kind of felt that it a young ages like to know who you are. You know, I remember because we came from, you know, it's kind of the wrong side of the tracks, but we
Starting point is 00:17:51 had a good baseball team. And one time we went across Atlanta to play the kids at the big private school. And when we got off the bus, they were making fun of us because our uniform school were pretty crappy. And that stuck in my mind, my whole life because as I'm getting off, I'm like, you don't know anything about me. How can you judge me? All you know is I got a crappy shirt on. And then at the other end of my life where people go,
Starting point is 00:18:18 oh, you're rich, you don't understand. I said, no, I'm still Jeff. I just got a better shirt on. Oh man. Still the same guy, you know. Oh good, brother. Yeah, there's a danger in attaching one's identity to what you do. Because it's going to go away. You got it.
Starting point is 00:18:35 You got it. If it's your beauty, it's going to go away. If it's your muscles, it's going to go away. Yep. And so why attach your identity to something that's not permanent. It's very conditional. And it's one of the things that robs people from their happy. Then they also start to think, well, if I can get to this next level of success, then I'll be happy. Or I get this thing, I get this jet, I get this car, I get this house,
Starting point is 00:19:00 and they delay what is within them right now that they could experience until some future destination or achievement that may or may not ever happen. And then when they get there, that's not enough and they've got to get another one. And so it's so profound that that's what you do and it's not who you are. And I hope everybody just heard that. You know, you were, you're talking about where you come from a little bit. I just was like thinking about how you got started. And just how telling even the first night of your comedic life is like a pretty big night in your life, right? So just yeah, everyone does doesn't know this. This is a guy who's working at IBM. Most of you, most people probably did not know that Jeff Foxworthy worked at IBM, right? That's
Starting point is 00:19:41 what he was doing for a living. I think your dad worked there too, if I'm not mistaken. That's how I got the job. I was I had flunked out of college. I was working at a grocery store and I think my dad said to one of his buddy, hey, give my kid a job. And so it sounds more glamorous. I was carrying a tool bag and fixing machines. But it wasn't singing to me. I knew while I was doing it, I'm like, crap, this isn't my park in space. This isn't my lane. And I work with a bunch of guys that would always went to the local comedy club in Atlanta and they go, dude, you're funnier than those people
Starting point is 00:20:14 at the comedy club. You should go up down there and I'm like, oh, I don't know. And so they entered me without my knowledge. They entered me in a contest, not an amateur night, a contest for comedians, for working comedians, called the Southeastern Lapland, and they came back and they said, we entered you in this contest. I'm like, oh crap. So I went and wrote like five or six minutes of material about my family, and I went down in the first night on stage. I was so nervous. I won the contest a minute and a half into it. I was like this is what I want to do
Starting point is 00:20:46 This is what I was made to do this is my gift and and then I came off and this girl came over to talk to me And I was so nervous. I spilled my drink down the front of her sweater and I mean, I made a joke. I said well, I guess you're're never going to go out with me. And she said, well, you didn't even ask me. And that girl, I've been married to for 37 years. That's amazing. So I met my wife and my career less than five minutes apart. Unbelievable. They play some night.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And by the way, everyone, there's a lesson in that, which is he went and did something he was terrified to do. And sometimes on the other side of things, we're super afraid of that we feel ill prepared for is our dream. And that's not a hoke of your corny. Maybe it's even a current of you right now listening to me say it, right? Like how does this will happen that night? If you don't go do something, you're totally terrified to do not completely prepared for.
Starting point is 00:21:41 You don't get your career, which is your dream, the platform to influence people like you're doing right now, nor potentially this amazing thing you're most proud of, which is your family. And it was because you did something you were freaking not ready to do and afraid to do. And on the other side of that was this gift, right? It's the consequence of saying yes. It's just going, yeah, okay, I'll do it. And to me, you're not scared, but that's all bravery is being scared and doing it anyway. You know, and I got over being scared to go on stage, but yes, the consequence of, that was how it happened for me at the mission, is the guy looked at me and goes, man, these guys have never been in a small group of men,
Starting point is 00:22:26 like to done a small group Bible study, would you lead it? And I certainly won the most qualified guy to do it, but I went, yeah, okay, I'll do it. You know, there's five million people more qualified than me, but I'll do it. Yeah, and it was the consequence of saying, yes, they didn't end up being one of the most impactful things in my life. And I tell my kids, I yes, that it ended up being one of the most impactful things in my life.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And I tell my kids, I said, you know what I want you to do in life? I want you to fail. I want you to fail a lot. Because if you're failing, you're pushing the boundaries. You're trying to find the boundaries of what you're capable of doing.
Starting point is 00:23:00 If you never fail, you've never pushed that boundary and gone too far over it to win them. That's not my thing. So really fail a lot, man, because then you're pushing it. I love that. And God doesn't call the qualified. He qualifies the call. We all probably heard that saying, but it's true. I've experienced it in my own life. All these things, I wasn't ready to do or prepared for. But if people say, well, how do you step into that space? For me, I must just say this to everybody. I know it's true for you too. My business partner is, is, is God, my business partner is Jesus. So for me, I got a good partner who's
Starting point is 00:23:34 got my back all the time. So I step into these things with some measure of faith, not really in myself, but in who's got my back and who my partner is and that he'll if I'll step boldly in faith Some of these answers and thoughts and the words and the whatever's the people the places the relationships Sort of appear because I've stepped in faith when you don't step in faith I think oftentimes those people the thoughts the circumstances the meetings the connections don't Show up because you've not stepped into that uncomfortable unknown place. That's just how I look at it. I think you're right. And you know, you've got like this light and you're like a porch light where like mobs are attracted to it. And so,
Starting point is 00:24:18 you know, it sounds kind of corny, but we live in a world now where people, they want the likes, they want, it's, it's, give me the likes, give me the likes, it's almost important to get to the point where you go, I don't care, I don't care. I, this is what I do. You know, I know like within what I do, I would, I, I, I, I, I'm not mean spirited about it. If I heard your feelings with anything I've ever said, please forgive me.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I'm sorry. That was not the intent. So if you don't like me as a con, I don't care. I don't care. I mean, I hope you find somebody that you like, because laughter is really important, you know, it's kind of like the release felt that keeps the boiler from exploding. Yeah. But how do you feel about though, Jeff? Like lately, yeah, I got, you
Starting point is 00:25:05 know, obviously the other night when we're recording this, we'll be out pretty soon. But this situation happened when we'll Smith and Chris rock where Chris rocks making jokes, right? And you've had this situation. This goes to your specials called the good old days. And he just reflects on some of the things that are funny, that are just also beautiful. And sometimes better or just different than they are now. But then you know, you've seen whether you agree with the messaging or not, but you know, Kevin Hartstad, the cancel culture, shepelles had major issues and those are just a few. But how do you feel about, because comedy is art, right?
Starting point is 00:25:40 And so what are your thoughts on this like, that's not funny to me. So you're a bad dude type stuff. It's we have a real hard time as a society of laughing at ourselves now. And within that lies the problem because we have to give up our need to be right. When you have to be right, then the other has to be wrong. And people don't want to engage in any kind of relationship where they have to be wrong all the time. And so they just go the other way.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And as a comic, it's kind of our job to just hold things up and go, what do we do this? What do we do that? We're truth tellers. What do we do this? What do we do this? And when people start attacking that and they don't
Starting point is 00:26:26 have the ability to laugh at themselves, it means they've, they've think that they've got it all figured out. And none of us have it all figured out. You've got your lane and you've got a lot of that figured out and I got my lane and I got a lot of that figured out, but there's a lot of other lanes. I know nothing about. And so every day you and I are both coming to 100 forks in the road and we're having to go to a go this way or that way and we're all doing the best we can, but I don't have to be right. There were things that I argued vehemently for
Starting point is 00:26:56 when I was 20 that at 60, I go, nah, I've kind of changed my mind on that one. So. Totally agree with you. I gotta tell you something. It's interesting that people ask me, oh, do you get, you know, what have you learned? I said, honestly, one of the things I have learned
Starting point is 00:27:09 is how little I know. I thought I knew a lot more at 30 than I know I don't know now at 50. And I'm always concerned when I have a friend who never changes their mind, right? Mine should change. More information. We should evolve, but sure, right?
Starting point is 00:27:25 It always concerns me when someone never changes their mind. Never says I'm sorry. Oops. I mean, that tells me is you haven't researched it at all or you haven't engaged in conversation or you know, because I've changed my mind about a million things. And if I had any advice, I was telling my youngest daughter this the other day and I love the child so much, but you know when she's not the child I want to be with when I have my heart attack, it's my oldest one who's very confident, but I told her I said you want to know what, I said baby girl the biggest thing that I've learned in like the most helpful thing that I've learned in like is this and like I said I'm visual, I go let it go. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And I literally, I mean, I know you guys have listened to me, but I'm opening my hand and I go let it go. I used to be the guy when I was 20 and somebody cut me off and traffic, I'd be on his bumper and I'd be changing lanes, you know, yelling at him and screaming. And now it happens and I go let it go. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Why do you think we don't? You think we're control? We think we think we can troll everything. You think that's what it is? Yes. Yeah. And in something like COVID shows you, you don't have control over anything. You don't have control over where you get this little invisible virus that may or may not kill you.
Starting point is 00:28:43 You don't have any control over what's going on in the Ukraine right now. You don't have any control over what's going on sadly in the houses of Congress right now. And you have very little control over things. But that doesn't mean it's hopeless. It's the one who spoke the universe into existence has control. And if you will rightly take your place in this and go, I don't have control, but I trust you and you do. So, and you've given me these gifts. So, let me quit wasting time and being pissed off at dad
Starting point is 00:29:17 or let me quit wasting time yelling at the guy in traffic. And let me use these gifts and these things. You know, everything, if you look around, and traffic, and let me use these gifts and these things. You know, everything, if you look around, I'm looking at your office here behind you, you got a poster on the wall, it was created for a purpose to promote this book. Chair, I'm sitting in was created for a purpose.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So somebody didn't have to stand up. So if you do believe in a creator and these things, these simple things were created with a purpose, then what about you and me? And it's not my purpose. God, what a waste of time. What a waste of my lap if I'm going to be yelling at somebody in traffic or sitting home and wrenching my hands over what's going on.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And you know, I go, what's going on in places. I don't have any control over. Let me deal with what I have control over. I have control over being a good dad. I have control over being a good husband. I have control over being a good steward of this gift that I've been given. I don't have any control over what somebody thinks about me. It's, I'm letting that go.
Starting point is 00:30:23 You know, and I love him, but I'm letting that go. You know, I love him, but I'm letting it go. The other thing you've done though, you know, speaking of control, you had longevity. And everybody wants this in their career. Like, even if you're a business person, I've known so many people who used to be wealthy that no longer are because they had to go in for three or four or five years, right? Or eight years or whatever it might be in their careers. You know this in your industry, someone to last as long as you've lasted is there's a handful
Starting point is 00:30:50 out of millions and millions, there's a handful that lasts decades. And I think one of the things that you've done that I like you to address is I've tried in my life, by the way, make mistakes every day, made tons of them, many of them I'm very embarrassed by, but I try to protect my dream. I try to by the way, made mistakes every day, made tons of them, many of them I'm very embarrassed by, but I try to protect my dream. I try to protect the momentum.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And that means, and I heard you say this, like I know me a little bit. And so I got to not put myself in situations that my dumb butt would make a stupid decision on, right? Or a bad thought or a bad thing. And you're talking about, you know, don't make the big mistakes in life. And I think you're referencing like the blue collar tour, just when you've toured in general,
Starting point is 00:31:30 sort of decisions you make, because you kind of know you a little bit, right? And so, and this is no humans, sort of the, I guess, the bigger picture case, but I'd like you to talk about that a little bit. Well, I mean, it's the cloth that I'm cut from too. You know, my dad a little bit. Well, I mean, it's the cloth that I'm cut from too, you know, my dad was married six times. I had a thousand girlfriends. So for me, like alcohol never did it for me. You know, it just, you know, it never was, you know, it just didn't do it, drugs didn't do it. But I like a pretty girl. Always if I like to put a girl, my younger brother likes a pretty girl. But it was, it was, as we talked about at the beginning of this thing, it was important to me,
Starting point is 00:32:08 a, to honor my wife, but two did not break this trust with my kids. And so when we would be on the road, and the other guys would say after the show, hey, come on, let's go to the bar and have a few drinks. I don't think, I don't think there's anything wrong with having a few drinks. But this is what I knew about myself.
Starting point is 00:32:27 If I got in there and had one and we're having fun and then we have two and then we have three and then somebody sits down next to me with a lot of cleavage showing and they smell good. Now I've put myself in a situation where I'm vulnerable to mess up the most precious things in my life. I don't, I would, I put myself where I'm vulnerable to break that trust with my kids and to break that trust with my wife.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And so what I would say was, you know what, I'm going back to the room, I'm going to order room service and I'm going to call home. Not because I'm approved, not because I'm a do-goody. It's because I knew where the fly paper was, and that was the place that I could screw up everything I had worked for. I could break that trust that I wanted to have my kids
Starting point is 00:33:15 forever in a single moment of weakness. So I'm like, I'm going, I'm walking the other way. I think it's one of the biggest lessons you'll ever hear on my show. It's kind of know yourself. I just think it's, I watch most things not prevail, not because someone wasn't good at something, but because they've made a decision or a choice at some point.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It might even be to spend all the money they make prematurely. It could be just that your perclivity to spend money. But it's these things that you kind of know intuitively about yourself that you need to avoid that you don't protect yourself from you often enough. And that's one of the keys to someone like you in your life. The whole thing in the specials about the good old days.
Starting point is 00:33:55 What makes you do that on that topic? I was just curious because it's hilarious, right? The stuff about the one at the end about you, I don't know, I want to give this away, but pretty. Well, because my father-in-law, that's just his mantra. He's walking around with his pants up to his nipples, gripping about, you know, how the world's gone to hell and it was better in the good old days. And so COVID gave me a chance to just really do a deep dive and go, was it really? All right. So let's go back to, you know, for me, my childhood, and I'm going
Starting point is 00:34:25 to look at the way education was there and the way education is now and the way communication was there and and and just every aspect and literally it had a big chart. And I'm just writing on one side, going back and writing on the other. And like everything in life, there were things back then that were better than they are now. You know, we were probably more centered as families and communities because we weren't as spread out there. But then there's things now like communication
Starting point is 00:34:53 and all that obviously are better now. But it was fun because it was multi-generational material. As I'm playing with it, you know, you can see all the older folks are livin' at this, but then let's hit it back and now the younger people are livin' at this. And then, so it involves, you know, people from 20 to 70. It was, it was fun that way. And it's just kind of looking at life from, you know, from this end of the court. Have you felt pressure to be relevant this
Starting point is 00:35:24 long? I asked Sebastian Manascalco has become a pretty good friend of mine. He was on the court. Have you felt pressure to be relevant this long? I asked Sebastian Manascalco has become pretty good friend of mine. He was on the show. And you know, Sebastian right now, maybe the number one stand up on the planet, right? Absolutely. He's still in a hole. These arenas everywhere he goes. And I said, brother, do you feel pressure for this not to end? You know, for it not to end. He goes, yeah, I do. And I wakes up and it kind of drives me. It's a pretty healthy thing, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't afraid it was going to end. And then people have asked me, if you always been, you know, whatever success I've had, is it all chasing the positive all the time. The truth is, that's the compelling thing. But I've
Starting point is 00:36:02 also sort of, I don't, I don't want to be broke, you know, also sort of, I don't wanna be broke. I don't wanna not have a platform where I can serve people and make a difference. So I guess for me, there is a motivator there. How about for you? I'm just curious, what moves you? Is that ever occurred to you all this time? I mean, the notoriety must have been something
Starting point is 00:36:21 was just shocking to you. And then did you wanna keep it in harness it or did you not carry just let go as you said earlier. The notoriety has always kind of embarrassed me. I mean, I say the, I don't know me in this derogatory, but I was told people, I'm two decisions from drywall and, you know, I mean, I know how to drywall, and I'm two decisions from doing that for a living. So my goal when I started this, I wanted to make $100,000 a year. I mean, I thought that was the King's ransom, you know, and now I've made twice that in a night, you know, just unfathomable. But, but, but I find, I mean, I'm, I'm very thankful for things like my farm because lands one of those things you can't really own your again, just a steward of it.
Starting point is 00:37:17 But I don't want stuff. I'm a, I'm a blue gene and t-shirt guy. I'm not motivated by stuff, but I do want to take care of the people that I love. And I wanna take care of the people within my community that don't have the ability to do that for themselves. And so, and I've been blessed by having a job that I still love. I love what I do. I like people.
Starting point is 00:37:38 You know, people come and go, I know you hate this, I go, no, I don't. I like people. I like, so never in my mind when I quit, when I quit my job, my goal was to be a comedian for two years because I thought, I'll have a great story when my, when I'm a granddad one day and go, you know, there was a time I was a comedian for a couple of years. Never in my wildest dreams did I think 38 years later. Not only would I still be doing it, I'm still doing Netflix specials.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Amazing. How long did it take you to be financially successful? So that night happens. You're on stage, you win that contest. From that day, how many shows do you think you did before you went, wow, I hit my goal of that 100,000, let's say? Well, I can tell you, so when I quit IBM, I was, this is 1984, I was making $32,000 a year.
Starting point is 00:38:32 My first year in comedy, I did, and I know this because I've got the little notebook, the pocket calendar thing. My first year in comedy, I did 406 shows and I made $8,300 for the year. So I made a quarter of what I was making at my other job. But I knew that this was the thing I was gifted in. I knew if I put in the work, I had a chance here.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And it was making my heart sing. So I didn't even think about the money. And my wife, God bless her. She was acting, she quit acting and took a job for a milk company. So we weren't starving to death because she believed in me. She was the one that's to told me to quit IBM. She goes, you've got all this creative stuff inside of you. And if you sit in a cubicle the rest of your life, you're going to explode. Do it. Hold your nose and jump. And I tell all my friends, like, your life needs a few hold your nose and jump moments, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:31 And so, even though I won't make it money, I'm like, this is what I was made to do. And you're not, I'm going to work hard at it. And I'm not going to, you know, be chasing waitresses and all. This is what I want to do. And when I look back, that is the common denominator for everybody when I was starting, whether it was Jerry Seinfeld or Jay Leno or Judd Apto or Chris Rock or whoever they all worked at it. They worked, you know, it doesn't just, and I'm sure it's that way in every business and
Starting point is 00:40:06 every creative business. It was the people that put in the work that, and not all of them like Judd ended up being stand up comics. Yeah, right. You know, but is it all cracked up to me? It is. No, no better feeling in the world when, you know, it was funny early on because my wife used to love acting. And I would say, let me write you five minutes so you can, you can know what it's like for me.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And she goes, nah, she goes, you know, if I'm in a bad play, there's somebody else to blame it on. I can blame it on the director or the writer. And she said, when you're, when you're going down the toilet doing stand up, it's just you. And I said, yeah, but when it's going good, there's no better feeling in the world. I wish everybody could see your faces. You just said that. Some of these folks will watch it on you, but most are audio and your face changed even when you just said that. Like you just lit up.
Starting point is 00:40:58 You could somebody tell me early on, they said, you know when it's going good, is when you stop to take a sip of water and they're ain't one sound in the room. They're just waiting to its silence, waiting on whatever you have to say next. Is that part of being funny, by the way? So I speak on stages and I tell, you know, blessed to be on some pretty big ones and people ask me, well, it's time how do you refine your speak? I said, I watch standups because I think it's the hardest form of communication in the world is to walk out to a group of strangers and say something funny.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Oh, that's a little bit of preachers. I watch preachers, some of the good ones, and I watch standups. Those are the two that I've sort of modeled myself after. But I think in communication, the funny sometimes the emphasis is in the pause is in the silence. And this is true for sales. I think this is a lesson for everybody. It's true for sales, stand up, public speaking, all kinds of communication. Most people are afraid of silence. And you just hit on this. They're afraid of silence because that's the awkward time, even in a dinner with somebody. You know, when you're with your really good friend, you can ride in a car for three hours and not say a word. Yeah, you kind of know, right? When you were not my, not my wife. But I do it all the time. Yeah. Okay, that is everyone just so you know, for me, that is the funniest part of this special
Starting point is 00:42:14 is the part where he talks about it. You just got to go see this. I'm not, I'm gonna make everybody go see it. It is, I had tears pouring down my face and my wife is staring at me with like daggers the whole time because it was the funniest damn thing I've heard in years, is that part of the special. I'm telling you everybody, it's worth even just that part is hilarious. Were you reading that off a cue card? Did you remember all that? No, Ed, I have, I see it in my head. I learned a long time ago, if you write things with your long-handed, not long-handed, you have an 80% better chance of memorizing it. So many years ago, I did a thing on one of the CDs or whatever, where I was talking about
Starting point is 00:42:56 them advertising prescription drugs. And I said, and 90% of the time, the side effects are 10 times worse than whatever the drug is supposed to cure. It would be like, try new flora fl for each. What are we eyes? It's flora floor. Side effects may include nausea, vomiting, water, weight gain, lower back pain, receiving an airline, exibuses, it worries the rises, is changing clothes and I go in our reddler off 80 things in a row. The side effects from this thing. But in my mind, people go, how do you remember that? I said,
Starting point is 00:43:27 I'm not remembering it. I see the paper. And so I'm just reading it. I'm just reading it off the paper. So it's not even like a big memory thing. I just see it. That's amazing to me. I'm telling you that you guys this is it's so damn funny. If you're married, actually, if you just have a girlfriend or a boyfriend, it is so dang for actually, even if you have a mom, it would be a good for somebody who needs your mom. I actually thought about my mom too when you were doing that. Oh my goodness. But what about the pause?
Starting point is 00:43:55 Like, did you have to become comfortable with silence? You know what I mean, right? That is part of the nuance. Yeah. I used to just want to just not give them a chance to breathe and just beat this knot out of them. And then I realized the silence is even more powerful. Because if you stop and nobody's getting up to go to the bathroom, nobody's shuffling, you don't hear drinks. And then what the silence does is it puts the ball in their court.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And it goes, what are you going to do with this? You're going to give it back to me or you're going to try to do something with. And so when you really got them, they go, I don't want it. You take it. You take it. You get the ball. So, so good. I got a few more things for you.
Starting point is 00:44:40 By the way, I am thoroughly enjoying this as you can. I am too. Yeah. Well, thank you. I admire too. Yeah. Well, thank you. I admire you. And one of the things you talk about that I already told about is don't make the big
Starting point is 00:44:50 mistakes. What are some of those? Help us avoid them or what you see as some of the big mistakes. What does that mean? Well, you know, most of the time when we go off the road and blow our lives up, we don't take a 90 degree turn off the road. We don't just turn. It's like that slow drift, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:15 And so the big mistakes are having the affair that blows your family up. Well, you don't just walk in one day and see somebody go, hey, you want to screw? Yeah, you start hanging out with them. Then you start making sexual references with them and then you joke and then you start being left alone with them. And so it's that slow. It's not that 90-degree turn.
Starting point is 00:45:41 You're just kind of breaking little bit, trust along the way. And man, you're just kind of breaking little bit, trust along the way, you know. And I, man, we're all good. We're all fallible. I mean, I'm, I have such the potential to do that, that I got to, I got to put up a little guardrail for myself to go, no, can't do that, can't, can't be along with them, can't.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Cause it's the big mistake I used to tell my kids that, don't make the big mistakes. Don't get in a car with somebody that's driving because you can die from this or you can be crippled from this or you know those are the life changers. You know, don't get pregnant when you're in the 10th grade because I want you to have a full life. Not that having a baby's not a wonderful thing, but there's a season for that and this ain't it. Do you think this group? So there's two groups with you though. So you got the group that you
Starting point is 00:46:35 lead before COVID with the homeless folks and that's just beautiful work you've done. And that grew to, from like a few to like a hundred people, I think right so Starter would 12. Yeah. Well, not interesting that it started with 12 Yeah, ironically. Yeah, what an interesting number But it grew but I think the other thing for me has been who I'm around is my friendship circle and this power of association people don't take it seriously enough I if you really look at the lives of the five people you're around the most,
Starting point is 00:47:06 I mean, really look at their, not just their material success, but, you know, they're bliss, they're happiness, they're peace, right? They're contribution, like really evaluate them. Their emotional maturity is another thing. Like, people always want to be around people that accept them, these people accept me as I am.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I don't want people. I want to have a few friends of mine, hey, let's pick up before they come over. I want to have a few friends of my, hey, let's pick up before they come over. I want to have a few friends where like, we laugh our tails off, but I'm kind of accountable to them too, right? Like that to me has been huge and I have to think for you to have this kind of longevity
Starting point is 00:47:36 and not make the big mistakes. There's this other group that I think you meet with on Thursdays or used to that like has been in your life forever. So discuss this because it may not be a Bible study for everybody. Most some people might not want to read the Bible. Some people may not be people of faith, but have in a group, right? So talk about that a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's having a, having a group of guys, you know, and I don't mean the sexist at all, but for me, it was having a group of guys that you could be accountable to that you could, that some guy could look at you and go, Hey, dude, I'm struggling at home right now. Man, I'm, you know, I'm been flirting with this girl at work where so many else can speak some wisdom and do you go, do be careful because you're going to mess this whole thing up. You're not going to have your kids. And so, yeah, there was a group, we met for breakfast, Thursday mornings, and a barbecue, back of a barbecue restaurant for 18 years. And so what we did was we did life together. You know, when somebody was having kids, then you're sitting there like
Starting point is 00:48:36 praying that night, man, please, please let this kid be safe. Please let the mom be safe. When somebody's mom died, you're there with them. If for no other reason, just I'm here, you know why you bury your mom, but we were doing life together, going through work struggles together. And I think it's real important in your life. We weren't created to live in isolation. That's been the really weird thing with COVID
Starting point is 00:49:01 is this isolation. I saw a study where they were they were studying people that lived in isolation, but had totally healthy habits. I mean, like, like, vegan, exercised every day and all. The people that lived in community, like, had that group of friends, didn't matter if they smoked, drank, whatever, they lived longer and happier lives than the people that lived in isolation no matter what their health habits were. Because we weren't creating, you need people around you.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I always said Elvis needed somebody around him to go, drop the cape and they had, stop. Stop, you're acting like an idiot. Stop, Michael Jackson needed somebody. Go, dude, don't be taking this stuff to go to sleep. Stop. Yes. And you need people speaking truth into your life. And the people that are telling you what you want to hear, that's not your friends.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Your friends are telling, are the people that are telling you things that you don't necessarily want to hear. You know, to go, Hey, buddy, I love you, but you need to be careful here. I mean, you need to watch this. And so you need people that care that love you enough to speak truth to you. Yeah. Yeah. So good, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:50:11 All right, last question. It's actually, I hope you remember this story or this analogy. So I've been around faith all my life. And we're not all my life. That's not right. But I've been around faith most of my adult life. And very rarely does somebody say something at Irwin McManus, who's a pastor on my show,
Starting point is 00:50:29 he was a pastor, he came on my show and he said something I had never heard before that stuck with me, which is that all other faiths about are basically about what you need to do to get to God. And he said, what I love about my Christian faith is that my faith is all about what Jesus did to get to me And it just is always stuck with me. It's that's that state on my heart There's a second time and it happened yesterday and it came from you
Starting point is 00:50:55 So there's pressure on you to remember this But you talked about we've all sinned in our lives guys. We've all made mistakes and I We carry this stuff with us because we do want to be better people. We should try to aspire to be better. We should try to do good in our lives. That's the whole we were put here to do something great with our lives. But we fail often. And it was the defense attorney analogy. Do you remember that? Please tell me that you remember it because it's beautiful. I do remember that. And it's not going to leave me Jeff. So would you just share that with everybody in the last couple of minutes here, that whole concept and thought.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And so here's the other thing. So for me, there's a lot of things that happen in organized religion that I'm not a fan of at all. But I'm, but I'm, but I'm really big on faith. And it's, this one, the amazing thing about it to me is it's not based on how good we are because you say, we all make mistakes. I, hell, I'm going to make them today. I'm going to make them tomorrow. And no matter how bad in my heart, I don't want to do it. I'm going to make them. So it's not based on how good I am. It's how good he is. And so what, and that's what happened at the cross was, was he goes, hey, I love you enough that there's got to be justice for all this bad stuff that you've done. But I'm going to pay the price for it. And so being the visual guy, it's like sitting in a court and they're going
Starting point is 00:52:23 through your life and going, all right, and what about the, you know, the time you drove drunk and, you know, had sex with your buddy's sister in the bag of your car? And it's, I just depicted the defense attorney's just being Jesus and he stands up and holds up that hand with a hole in it and he goes, already paid for that. And what about the time you do this, already paid for that, you know, and that goes, I already paid for that. And what about the time you do this, I already paid for that. And that's, what about that is not attractive to somebody, to be loved because that's what we all want. And as a comic, you're always looking,
Starting point is 00:52:57 what are we having common? We all want to be loved, we all want to be heard, but we all want to be loved, we all want to be heard, but we all want to be significant. You know, we want to mean something. We all search for significance. And to me, then the story of Jesus is, he goes, not only do you mean something to me, you mean everything to me. I let him do this and I could have just held up my hand and band of angels was, I let them do, I let them beat me and I let them nail me to a cross because I love you
Starting point is 00:53:32 this much. So you don't mean something, you mean everything to me. And, and, and, and this is not, I'm not a preachy guy. And if you don't have faith, you and I still be friends and we still hang out, we still laugh. You know, this is just for me. This is, this is my lane. And and it works. And, and, and I, and I don't want to sit in judgment of anybody's faith or lack of it. That's not my job. This, I'm just telling you my story. Yeah. I love your story. And I, I could feel it right now. My audience, wish we were going another hour, but you got a. Yeah. I love your story. And I can feel it right now. My audience wish we were going another hour,
Starting point is 00:54:07 but you got a busy day. And I enjoyed this. I 10 out of 10, tremendously, brother. I think you're. And I love your heart for other people to want to mentor. To, you know, to do. It's like helping somebody else hold their heavy rock.
Starting point is 00:54:23 You know, to go, here, man, give me that side of it. Oh, he'll be holding it for a minute. And that's, I think that's awesome that you just got a hard to mentor people that way. Thank you, brother. And I love your heart as well. So everybody, listen to me. I know you enjoyed today's show.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Number one thing I'm going to ask you to do is share the heck out of it because this is going to change people's lives. The second thing I'm going to ask you to do is go watch the good old days on Netflix and get to Jeff Foxworthy.com or as an Instagram wherever to get all the stuff that he's doing all the time, but you got to go watch the good old days on Netflix. No matter who you're with, you're all going to love it. You're all going to laugh. It's one of the rare pieces of art that I think everybody can agree is just dadgum funny stuff. So, thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yeah, because I got a new grandson. I got to buy him some more toys. So, yeah, go watch this thing. I think a lot of people would like to be that grandson right about now. But brother, thank you. You're absolutely wonderful, man. And I'm very grateful for our time today.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Well, I thank you for having me. I appreciate this forum so much. It's kind of fun to step out and kind of, you know, tell part of your story that you don't get to tell very often. So thanks. I'm grateful you did it. And everybody, you know this, the power of one more, go get my book, go pre-order it,
Starting point is 00:55:34 or order it, depending on when you're listening to this thing. It'll change your life as well. All right, everybody, God bless you, max out your life. This is The End and My Let Show.

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