THE ED MYLETT SHOW - The Power of Persistence: How Hard Work Will TRANSFORM Your Life Feat. Sean Casey

Episode Date: October 12, 2024

How far are you willing to go when the odds are stacked against you? In this incredible mashup, you’ll hear from some of the most inspiring voices, including Sean Casey, who prove that relentless ...effort and perseverance can change everything. From facing rejection in high school to becoming an MLB All-Star, Sean’s journey is a testament to what happens when you refuse to give up—especially when no one believes in you. We break down Sean’s story of growing up without the accolades or the attention of scouts, feeling like he was overlooked and underestimated. But instead of letting that defeat him, Sean doubled down, putting in the work day after day in a local batting cage, grinding until he became a player no one could ignore. He shares how his father's advice to “be accountable and put in the work” became the guiding principle that pushed him through the tough times when no one was watching and no opportunities seemed to come his way. It’s not just about talent; it’s about showing up when no one else is willing to. Alongside Sean's journey, you’ll hear insights from Nick Santonastasso, who redefined what’s possible by overcoming his physical limitations, and Grant Cardone, who emphasizes the importance of playing offense in life—creating your own opportunities instead of waiting for someone else to hand them to you. These stories will light a fire inside you, showing that with persistence, you can break through any obstacle. Here’s what you’ll learn: - How to turn rejection into fuel for success - Why your daily habits shape your future - The importance of "playing offense" and creating your own opportunities - Real-life examples of persistence leading to extraordinary outcomes This episode is packed with actionable strategies to help you push past your current limits, take control of your destiny, and build a future you deserve. Sean Casey’s story reminds us all that success isn’t about immediate recognition—it’s about the relentless pursuit of your goals, even when no one is watching. It’s a masterclass in perseverance, showing how hard work and dedication can transform not just your career, but your entire life. No matter where you are in your journey, this episode will inspire you to dig deeper, push harder, and keep going until the breakthrough happens. When life gets tough, remember that persistence isn’t just a strategy—it’s the key to unlocking your fullest potential. Keep showing up, keep putting in the work, and watch as everything begins to shift in your favor. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 So go to growthday.com forward slash Ed. That's growthday.com forward slash Ed. head. Hey everyone, welcome to my weekend special. I hope you enjoy the show. Be sure to follow The Ed Mylett Show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. You'll never miss an episode that way. My guest today played 12 years in the major leagues. Let me just tell you something. He could flat mash. This dude could hit. So we're going to talk about peak performance today and overcoming adversity, all kinds of incredible stuff with Sean Casey Casey. Welcome to the show, brother.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Thanks for having me on dude. So fired up to be here, brother. So I want to go back to the kind of the beginning with you. So Michael Jordan's got this amazing story that everyone throws around that, you know, he ends up being the greatest of all time, but he didn't even, you know, make his varsity team his sophomore year. There's this great story and it's a great story, but the guy went to North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:01:54 had a bunch of scholarship offers. You, on the other hand, when I say this guy could hit, I mean, other big league baseball players envied your swing and just were, you know, you just a remarkable hitter and player. But in high school, we go back like you didn't really have any juice. No one wanted you out of high school. You couldn't even get a scholarship. You couldn't get someone to look at you.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I want you all think about this that are listening wherever you are in your life right now. You're like, no one knows me. Nothing's happening. This dude couldn't even get someone to come scout him. Never mind offer you money. No one even come look, right? Is that true? I mean, you know, it's funny. We were talking about you out in California. You got, you got, hey, we had nine dudes from our high school
Starting point is 00:02:33 get drafted. I'm like, what? I can't, I haven't seen, I haven't seen nine scouts in my life in Pittsburgh. You know what I mean? It was incredible. So, you know, it's a great story. And I, you know, as I look back, and I think we were,
Starting point is 00:02:44 we were talking earlier, like, my dad's in a place right now where he's, has gone through two open heart surgeries and, and all this stuff. So, you know, even more like he and I have connected and, and we've kind of gone back down memory lane. And, you know, it's funny when I look back at, when I look back at, you know, growing up in Pittsburgh, like, you know, I was one of the better players, probably 10, 11, 12, you know, how that goes. Then you go to the bigger fields, 13, 14. And so I remember being 14 years old and, um, and, and I, I wasn't, I didn't play it all freshman year. And I'm like, man, why am I not playing? It all, you didn't play like I played a little bit. I was like, Hey, you're Casey, get in our pinch hit. And I'm like, what? You know? So yeah. So didn't really play much, played a little bit here and there. And I remember like a few games into the year going To my dad and being like hey dad
Starting point is 00:03:27 Help me out here. You know, I mean like, you know how good I am I you saw me hitting bombs and I was 12 crushing balls like 220 in the gap, you know, I mean like And I'm like, you know, and I you know that I should be starting as a freshman, you know freshman baseball and he's like And I was like, do you think you'd go talk to the coach? So no, that'd be, that'd be just help me out. You know what I mean? We go get your dad to kind of snowplow in there and a lot of guys do do that. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Exactly. You know, and I think back now as a dad, and I know you do too, Ed, is the conversation you have with your kid. Like, man, am I enabling my kids? You know, I feel like you disable people when you enable them. You know, am I enabling my kids sometimes? Am I making it too easy? And do I say no enough to maybe sometimes for a lesson, right? And like, so when I look back at this conversation,
Starting point is 00:04:13 had my dad gone and talk to the coach, we're not even talking. We're not even talking. So he says, no. So my dad says, no, he's like, you know what, Sean, I'm not not gonna talk to coach he goes he goes but he goes one thing I will say is the kid that's playing ahead of you I don't think he's better than you but you're not glaringly better than him you're not glaringly better than him he goes if you want to start playing then you got to start taking accountability for who you are as a player and for you who you are as you know putting in the work he goes there's a batting cage that just opened
Starting point is 00:04:44 up in the town next to us he He goes. I'll make you a deal he goes I'll buy you as Many tokens as you want as long as you hit every day as soon as you stop hitting the deals off I love you dad. Yeah, it was incredible. I said, you know what you got a deal dad He goes you got to start being accountable for who you are and putting in the work and Ed, dude, I started falling in love. I went, I went to the cages. I went to this batting cage. It was a grand slam USA and yeah, yeah. You remember grand slam when they first came out and I look back like things you're grateful for. I literally, my gratitude journal recently was like, I'm so grateful that that guy, Dick Thomas decided
Starting point is 00:05:22 to put a grand slam USA in the town next to me in Pittsburgh. Wow. You know, it's incredible when you think back at your life. You know what I mean? So I ended up meeting a guy on Tuesday night named Frank Porco, never played, never played, um, never ever played college baseball, but he was a hitting instructor. I wanted to ask you that. So this guy that helped you didn't even play college baseball, didn't play college baseball, just the high school. And he was making some money on the side. But Ed, talk about divine intervention. This guy knew hitting. This guy knew hitting.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And all the years I played in the big leagues and all the hitting coaches I've been around, I still feel like Frank Porco in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania was the best coach. Wow. So I would go to him every Tuesday night. My dad didn't make a lot of money. He was a chemical salesman, making like 33 grand a year.
Starting point is 00:06:04 So I knew those tokens were a big deal. I didn't take that for granted. I knew those tokens I knew the deal was a big deal, right? So I would go every Tuesday night hit with Frank Parker for 30 minutes 5 36 o'clock 20 bucks, you know It's a lot more now 20 bucks and then I would just stay man and I became obsessed with the mechanics of a swing all because I wanted to play JV baseball. It was all because I want to start my sophomore year really. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And it's just when I look back and like you know how you talk about just like the compound pounding the marginal game is like I could see myself getting like a little bit better every time like oh man my front shoulder staying a little better. I'm really driving off my backside. So next year it comes along and my dad was right. He's like, man, this is going to work. So sophomore year, I start JV, right? And I'm like, wow, this is working. My dad's right. Like it's that, you know, and he was always telling me you want to, and I was like, well, I'm college baseball one day. And he has like, all right, preparation meeting opportunity, like be ashamed one day, Sean,
Starting point is 00:07:01 if you came, if the opportunity came along and you weren't prepared.'m like and I kind of took that stuff to heart it was just such great lessons so my sophomore year hitting every day still I didn't play any other sports I did play some football and basketball but by my sophomore year I was just playing baseball but I hit every day hit every day after school next you know I'm a junior year I'm starting varsity and then senior year I'm starting varsity now I'm a good hitter though Ed. Now you can break. This works! This doing stuff every day like you know that invisible those invisible And then senior year I'm starting varsity. Now I'm a good hitter though, Ed. Yeah, now you can break. Now I'm like, this works. Yeah, yep. This doing stuff every day, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:27 that invisible, those invisible games, he really do work. And I was driving balls all over the park. So we get to my senior year, man. And, and you know, kind of another, just a great lesson from my dad. He had just started a new company called Casey Chemical. He's been waiting to do it. He's 50 years old now.
Starting point is 00:07:43 He's like, you know what? I'm gonna, I'm gonna start it. It was a, you know, he was like a middleman for like, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to start it. It was a, you know, he was like a middle man for like, you know, for selling surfactant chemicals. Right. And, and so I could, I saw how much he grinded. I saw like the work ethic that he put in and I could see now what he was talking about for three years earlier. So, and we, every, every month I'd come home with school and, he would be hey time to send out the network marketing
Starting point is 00:08:07 He's that we got five thousand letters Shawnee get those let's get that lose lips ready cuz you're gonna be licking those envelopes and sending them off and we would send Them out he would say hey listen if we get three or four people to come back We got a sale we're gonna pay the bills and that was that was like the kind of thought process, right? So during my senior year, I had no college scholarship offers, not division one, division two, division three, right? Just like they weren't there. And you know, you know, remember back in high school, you'd go to those tryouts where like,
Starting point is 00:08:33 yes, you know, the big league teams would come and then you'd run the 60 and that's why you got and you're getting drafted. He was like, this is my leg could fly. I mean, they're like, this Casey, like, does he have a disease we don't know about? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And I'm like, Casey, I think you left off Sean Casey. No, you're not on the list. Seven, four, five, we'll see you next time. Go to the Royals tryout next week. I'm like, so dude, it was so frustrating because I'm like, is this a track tryout or are we gonna hit?
Starting point is 00:09:13 We're not gonna hit, I guess, right? This is baseball. So my dad, at that point, I was getting not many looks. My dad said, you know what, Sean? I sat down with him, I said, Dad, I really wanna play college baseball, but no one's coming. And he goes, no one is gonna come. baseball, but no one's coming. Mm-hmm And he goes no one is gonna come. Mm-hmm. He goes no one's coming Sean
Starting point is 00:09:29 He says you want to make you you want to go play college baseball You got to start playing offense not defenses and quit waiting for somebody to come He's like, how about tomorrow? You come home from school. You come out to my office Casey chemical you sit down with me We're gonna write 30 letters You're gonna write this 30 schools that you want to go to Division 2 Division 3 wherever you want. So I come home from school that day. I'm kind of fired up Yeah, I got a guy got a game plan. I sit down my daddy goes, here we go
Starting point is 00:09:59 Hmm, so bad. I read the first one to Penn State next one to Clemson then I'm writing a college of Worcester Mary I'm writing whoever will whoever will listen. Yeah, I went the first one to Penn State, next one to Clemson, then I'm writing a College of Wooster, Mary, I'm writing Whoever Will Listen. I just opened my mind, I'm like, I'm gonna play in the big leagues one day, but I gotta get to a college first. Why do your face change when you started to talk about your dad writing the letter? I'm just curious, like your face changed a little bit. Yeah, you know what, because it fires me up. I'm so grateful.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I'm so grateful. You know, I'm 48 now, so you're grateful for those. You're grateful when you look back when you're 18 years old, 17 years old and, you know, you've got a dad that's willing to stand next to you when you're grinding. You know what I mean? You know, when it's not, you know, when everyone tells you you're too slow, you're this and that, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:40 you've got the guy next to you to say, you can do it. Why not you? You know? I told you the truth too, right? Like, Hey, no one's coming. Hey bro. And you know what? And I think that's the reality of it. That was the reality of it. Like, and then I get, you know, I was like, when you fight with reality, only you lose a hundred percent. I'm like, they're not. Yeah. He's like, so we sit down and write these 30s, 30 amazing. I just gotta tell you, like you're getting me,
Starting point is 00:11:00 like, I don't know why my eyes are watering, but like, I know that that was a, like, you're not here. If you don't write those letters, you're not young. They're't know why my eyes are watering But like I know that that was a like you're not here if you don't write those letters You're not young they're gonna hear in a minute, but like you're not here if your dad doesn't stand by you You're not here if you don't play offense. He doesn't tell you no one's coming. Shawnee. No one's coming. No one's going It's just amazing how moments in life can define us, right? I mean like even when my kids my god I hope I'm saying the right stuff Yes, I hope I'm saying the right stuff I hope I'm giving the right lessons. I hope I'm not just snow plowing You know the road for them and making sure everything's smooth
Starting point is 00:11:29 You know I mean, yeah, the less the adversity that I had was that what that's where I got my advantages, right? So so you write the letter so I write the letters to write 30 letters right before I'm done. I get up to go He goes. Hey, sit back down. He goes got one more letter. He goes University of Richmond sent you a flyer Hey, sit back down. He goes got one more letter. He goes University Richmond sent you a flyer No, no, it's like social media these kids are like, hey look at my swing check me out Look, I got millions of followers. Yeah, they're like, hey, we're you're switching to say you're flyer last year from the Keystone Stake And I send them one too. So bad last letter University Richmond do you ever see Richmond? Thanks for the flyer. Yeah I really think I can play there, you know, I mean, boom, boom, boom. So bam season goes on dude. And I'm still hitting every day after school and I'm
Starting point is 00:12:08 having a great year. We ended up winning the championship that year at my, at my school upper St. Clair, but with four games to go brother. It's incredible how this, how this works. First of bat, I remember we're playing this team called Montor. I get a pitch middle away, bam rocket left center. You know, I'm like, let's go a couple of Libby's, you know, next, next pitch, you'll get a pitch middle away, bam, rocket left center. You know, I'm like, let's go a couple of ribbies, you know, next pitch, you know, get a pitch middle and bam, right, right center, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:29 So I'm four for four, eight RBIs, you know, and four doubles. And you know, bro, like, you could probably look back at your high school career, college career, and you know the games. There's a handful of them where you're like, that was incredible. That was my greatest high school game ever.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Hands down, no doubt about it. 100%. So Jerry Malarkey, who's the coach at Upper St. Clare, I'm running out to play first for the seventh inning. We're dominating his team. He's like, Hey, Casey, he's like, man, you've had a heck of a game. He goes, how many hits you got? I got four hits, man. He goes, how many ribbies you got? I got eight ribbies, Jerry. He goes, yeah, you know what? That's great. Mm-hmm You see the guy behind the backstop right there. That's Mark McQueen Just drove six hours from the University of Richmond To come see you play And I was like, are you serious? He's like, yeah, he wants to talk to you after the game. Oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:13:18 So after the game I went over preparation opportunity or preparation meeting opportunity I remember thinking to my dad. I'm with dad What's this preparation meeting opportunities? Are you BS in here because I don't see any opportunities right right, but he's like what he and he always he was always adamant Was one's gonna come? One's gonna show up, you know, and I went over to mark with me shook his hand. He said hey, man He's like really like your swing You know, he goes I let me get back to you tomorrow So he went back to coach Atkins back in Richmond called me offering me a thousand dollar scholarship
Starting point is 00:13:47 I think at the time Richmond was like 30 grand. My dad made 33 grams like dad. What are we gonna do? He's like, we'll figure it out. We'll take a second Morgan's on the house. We'll get some financial aid So what's universal Richmond brother on the only offer that I had from those letters that I sent out because playing offense and not defense Right. Oh my gosh. Yeah gosh yeah incredible I go to University of Richmond are you are you all hearing this just so you know the end of the story is this man plays 12 years in the major leagues is one of the greatest hitters over a decade in the major leagues multiple all-star teams this dude got no looks no look you if you feel like you're missing your like like, are you hearing this? He gets a thousand dollars. And all due respect to University of Richmond. All due respect.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But this is not like Arizona State either, right? Dude, it's a mid-major. Right, exactly. It's incredible. Go ahead. It's incredible. Incredible. So I go to University of Richmond, hadn't even seen the school. Show up first day, my buddy Jay Adams hey man hey nice campus you're taking 45 visits like hey and my let's get him this guy's gonna be leading off
Starting point is 00:14:49 for us for three years we got a boom boom boom Pac-10 SEC I'm like hey great campus and I'm interviewing you now so you know and you're the one who played 12 years in the big leagues so it all works out okay you're on my show talking about your big league career it's't that incredible? It's incredible. How life works out, so true. So I go to University of Richmond, bro. I end up starting my freshman year,
Starting point is 00:15:10 have a good freshman year, freshman All-American, like you know, I mean, in that little, but I'm still developing as a player. My sophomore year I do well and I go to the Cape Cod League and you obviously know that's your ticket. If you can get to the Cape, you know, and that year Todd Helton was there, Darren Erstadt was there, Mike Low there Michael some good players, right?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Have a really good summer hit like 340 with the wood bat, you know almost you know lead league and RBI's and only reason I say that is because it's the part of the story I go back my Junior year and I be and I and I and I hit 461 and I'd led and see division one NCA baseball and hit hitting batting for 61. So I think back to three years or six years, seven years earlier, I'm asking my dad to go talk to the freshman high school coach because I'm not playing. And he just gives me the lesson of you've got to work harder. You got to put the time in.
Starting point is 00:15:59 You got to start being accountable for what you do. Set new routines. What are your habits after school? All that stuff. And then for me, it then all started to develop. Like I look back and like seven years later, gosh, with the, with, with like you talk about the compound pounding, that pinata effect of the invisible games, all that stuff seven years later in the NCAA division one champion. That is freaking incredible. Here's a clip of Ed Milet appearing on the podcast from Stuck to Unstoppable with host Steven Scoggins.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You mentioned something called becoming an impossibility thinker and a possibility achiever. Yep. And so many people that I see are self-sabotaging because they're not viewing it through that lens. So talk to us a little bit about that. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm typing this great note down. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Here's the governor that you put on yourself. If you're someone who is not an impossibility thinker, being an impossibility thinker is really simple. It's being willing to envision things you're ill prepared to do. Yeah, see the people that I know that I think have achieved this level of success. They have a lower threshold for what they need to know about something in order to imagine it and believe it's possible. So unsuccessful people have a very high threshold of what they have to
Starting point is 00:17:14 know, or what they have to have everything in place. And so they won't step into the unknown. I used to coach a race car driver, I won't say his name, because they had an NDA with it, but a very successful NASCAR driver. And he told me he goes, Ed, the most difficult thing in racing is not the normal race. It's when there's a crash in front of you. And when there's this crash in front of you, because I want you to imagine you're going 180 to 200 miles an hour and all there is, is a cloud of smoke. It's all you see. And you have to drive into that cloud of smoke,
Starting point is 00:17:42 not knowing that on the other side, there may be a stalled car, but you're going to hit-on and kill yourself. And he said, it's your ability to drive through that fog, drive through that unknown, drive through that smoke that separates you from other drivers. What most guys do is they start looking at the wall and they veer towards it. And he said, my ability to drive through that crash smoke, even though I don't know what's on the other side of it, is what separates me from other guys. And man, that's so true in business and life too.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Successful people are willing to drive through the smoke, not knowing what's on the other side, but believing I'll be resilient enough when I get in the room to figure it out. Unsuccessful people or people who are not successful yet go, I'll go, I'll drive once I know. I'll go once this, once the conditions, once my kids are grown, once I have this month, once I read one more book, once I do one more, once one second and then the threshold
Starting point is 00:18:29 keeps getting higher and higher and higher and they never take action. That's a big separator in order to achieve the impossible. You have to be willing to imagine it and actually allow your brain to go there knowing you don't have all the information. I have a podcast, it's probably the most successful business podcast, you know weekly podcast on the planet, entrepreneurship. Man, I started out, I didn't even know how to order the microphone. The first one I did, I didn't record it. I forgot to record it, right?
Starting point is 00:18:53 Like my son was the editor, he was 16, but I was willing to get into the space, not knowing everything. I didn't know who the guest was gonna be. Man, I didn't even know how you posted it once you recorded it. I remember Tony Robbins was like, hey, man, you put that thing on the chip.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I'm like, Chip, he goes in the recording device, dude, you have to have a microchip in there to record the show. And I'm like, shit, I didn't know that. I thought you just pressed record. Because what did you think you're recording it on? I'm like the machine. Oh, gosh. There's a so what if I would have thought about all I didn't know? I wouldn't have the number one show in the world.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah. So you got to start to drive through the smoke. Yeah. No, gosh. So good. You know, I was just thinking, too. One of the things that you mentioned in the book is this that goals are energy. I've never heard somebody actually phrase it that way. Yeah. You know, there's lots of things on goal setting. Make smart goals. Let's do this. But then you said goals or energy.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And I got to thinking about it. I'm like, anything that I, that I intentionally went after with my, with my full heart, with my full self always manifested in some way, shape or form may not look like exactly like I thought it was going to look. Or when you thought it would happen either. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Talk to me about goals and energy.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Cause I had never heard someone actually say it that happen either. Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Talk to me about goals and energy because I had never heard someone actually say it that way before. Well, goal is a thought and a thought creates a space that didn't exist before you have it. And I'm not going to get really quantum on you, but it actually creates an energy field that didn't exist before you had it. So when you have a goal, it creates an energy around it. That goal now has a vibrational frequency and the more you feed it and the more it vibrates faster and you start to feed it and feed it and feed it, its energy level can get up to a point where it achieves itself. Yeah, and most people don't look at it that way. But that's exactly how it is. I'm a Christian you are as well. But I also believe there's an energy field that just the Almighty created. Yep. And so I believe goals have energy to them. Now having said that I don't think you get all your goals. And I say the book, I think you always get your standards, though. And that's why the next chapters on standards, goals without standards are empty.
Starting point is 00:20:48 What I really focus on is what my standards are that can help deliver on the goals that I have. So the goal creates the energy, the standard creates the delivery mechanism. Geez. Can I be transparent with you about something? Please. So as a Christian, I've been on the fence for probably 24 months. Right? Because I meaning not not with my faith, but with elements of how quantum and energy and stuff relate to my faith. I discovered dispensers work, you know, a couple years ago,
Starting point is 00:21:20 probably when everybody else really started to and started to kind of go through some of this work and, and it wasn't until you at max out live where you actually step in front of my, say, look, I believe in Jesus, but I also believe in energy. And I believe this resonance and this vibration is real that I actually felt. Okay. Yeah. Cause I've been carrying that with me for so long. Not sure. Cause you know, I, I go to a, you go to a traditional pastor kind of scenario and not everybody kind of gets it. And then you can, if you go to a you go to a traditional pastor kind of scenario and not everybody kind of gets it and then you can if you go new you go too far new age and then then you
Starting point is 00:21:49 kind of start losing a little bit of your faith I've been walking this time yeah then ever yeah me too brother the new age is like your god and I don't buy that at all yeah I know me really well by the way I'm really no one's ever said that to me before ever and I have to. In fact, the chapter I wrote on faith and energy took longer than the rest of the book combined. And I really struggle with it because I wanted to honor my faith at the same time, be honest about listen, this, this interview is going well. Why there's an energy frequency happening here. You always know when you're in a space, God gave you this energy. God gave you discernment. Discernment is energy talks about it in the Bible. Doesn't call it energy, calls it discernment. But what discernment is, is you're sensing energy discernment
Starting point is 00:22:27 tells you this person, I don't you ever meet somebody you're like, nah, I don't feel. Absolutely. What's that come from? That's discernment, which is energy. So you're already proving that there's an energy field, or even other people like man, I can't explain it. Man, I like this dude. I like her, right? There's an energy frequency. So to deny that is ridiculous. Also, highest energy wins people that make us feel good. Yeah, it is a feeling. It's an energy, right?
Starting point is 00:22:50 It's an energy. So everything is energy. We're always feeling energy, highest energy wins, I'm trying to transfer energy when I speak. So to deny its existence is insane. In fact, take churches are really a good church is on fire for the body of Christ has an energy that's infectious. And people are excited. Why do you want to bring people to church? Because the energy, the feeling, right? We do something special here. So actually, I think great pastors understand energy.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And I will say this to you, I struggle with it as well, because I, as a devout man of God, as a Christian, I always worry I'm sounding new agey. Me too. Right. When I'm like, Oh, you tap into this field. And so I always am, I always am reluctant, but I've, I've come to the conclusion that all of the beautiful things in life that have served me have come from the almighty, come from God. Yep. And I know energy exists. I think, and I know energy exists. Yeah. I think, and I think success has an energy. I think failure has an, I think slumps have an energy. We all know this. As I say it, you're all nodding.
Starting point is 00:23:53 So to deny its existence is crazy. Having said all of that, I believe that energy is spirit. Yeah. And when I, when I speak, you go, man, when you speak, sometimes I'm like, Hey man, that's not always me. That's the Holy spirit. And I'm not sure how to put it all together quite yet, but I speak, you go, man, when you speak, sometimes I'm like, Hey man, that's not always me. That's the Holy spirit. And I'm not sure how to put it all together quite yet, but I'm not so sure that the Holy spirit doesn't have something to do with energy.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so I think we'll, you know, guys like you and I that talk openly about this stuff, maybe we'll find better ways to phrase it, but we certainly feel it. We certainly know it. I don't believe the fact that you buy into energy discounts, the fact that you have a Lord and Savior. And I think the notion of it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Does that mean you're not gonna get criticism for people to think any word like that's blasphemous? Yeah, but I've just decided that's okay. I'm not religious. I have a relationship with God. It's my relationship with Jesus, right? And sometimes it's roaring and doing great. And sometimes I'm like, Lord, why are you doing this? My dad died. What's going on here? I was at Chalk Hospital this week with kids that are, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:48 one of the little boys has leukemia. You don't think for a minute, I went, Lord, come on, man. Let's get this, you know, but I understand there's a higher purpose. I understand there's a calling. I understand there's an energy to it. So, man, I'm really appreciate you're transparent about that. It's, it's, it's probably the most difficult thing I've struggled with in my life, too. Here's a clip of Ed Milek appearing on Power Players with host Grant Cardone. Getting in the environment, changing my environment to be around people that were further ahead in some of the games of life I wanted to be in has had a huge impact on me. So a couple of these homes have paid for themselves just by the people I got around. Okay, so let's just leap off into that, alright? Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Because you gotta leave the middle class to get to the upper class. That's right. I mean, if you wanna get to the top, you gotta leave the middle. You agree with that? You gotta abandon almost everything you learned there. So your move to Idaho, buying that house, explain to everybody where it is and who lives there. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:25:42 And why exchanging money for that access is valuable in part. This is real power you're talking about. So the first thing I did is I moved there literally because of who some of the members of a couple of the clubs were and some of this is not stuff that you can go into. So the home I'm in now wasn't my first home. I bought a home I could actually afford. You'll draw names in a second. I guarantee you.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Stop it. It'll be a second I'll be sweeping up after. He's begging for them. Is he not fishing for these damn families? Give me one name. Give me one name up there. Coeur d'Alene. I can't even say it right. Coeur d'Alene.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Coeur d'Alene. When you can afford it, you'll pronounce it right. I'll help you get up there. Tell me one name of one famous person that lives up in the Carleons. With the Carleons. Coeur d'Alene. Coeur d'Alene.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Tony Robbins. Okay, give me another one. I'm not gonna do this. No, give me one more. John Elway. Okay, give me one more. No, I gonna do this. No, give me one more, give me one more. John Elway. Okay, give me one more. No, I'm not doing it with you. Just one more, a third one.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Cause you're the third. You're Adam Levine. See, I told you. I'm sweeping up after. I told you it'd be a second before we start dropping names. And someday Grant Cardone is what I hope. But anyway, what happened was I got up there and one of the reasons I saw it was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I bought a place I could relatively afford. It was a stretch, but not crazy. And I got around, it wasn't the sports guys. It wasn't the entertainers. It was the business people. It's on the lake. Yeah, but it was- You get a fancy boat out there.
Starting point is 00:26:51 There's two top 50 golf courses. Yeah. Actually got three boats, but that's another story. But there's a top, there's two top 50 golf courses on this lake that I, one's called Gaza Ranch that I'm a member of. Yeah. One's called the Club of Black Rock.
Starting point is 00:27:03 They're wonderful golf courses, but more importantly, the membership are people that were further along in the game of life than I was. And one thing about golf, as you've known, is you get four or five hours, you get to know somebody. It's not like a five minute lunch, everyone's chewing their food. You play golf with somebody four or five hours.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I remember one of my mentors told me, Eddie, rich men play golf. And I'm like, well, I'm not rich yet. I don't wanna golf. It's boring, it's slow, you can't hit anybody. It doesn't require weightlifting. You can be fat and win. It's not even really a sport, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:28 And then he goes, you didn't hear what I said. Rich men play golf. And he goes, if you want to be around these people, you need to play some damn golf. Rich men play golf. By the way, there's some validity to that. There's some broke dudes that play golf, too. Well, it depends on the golf course.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It does depend on the golf course. Right? And by the way, there's some posers everywhere. So let's say there's a guy or gal or family out there and let's say they're doing $58,000 a year. Yeah. They're just getting started, trying to put it all together.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Maybe the husband and wife both make 80 grand a year. Yes. And they like golf. Okay. Should they be playing golf just to play golf or should they be going to the country club where the players are, where the rich men play golf for access? Okay, let me tell playing golf just to play golf or should they be going to the country club where the players are with? Rich men play golf. Yeah, I think for access. Okay. Let me tell you how I did it
Starting point is 00:28:09 So I don't think you should be playing much golf at all at that level There's a way that you can play success golf though. And so success golf Yeah And the way that you do that in my opinion is first you got to go you have to start a business And nobody lives in these places or employees because I heard you're not even a good golfer Well, I don't know where you heard that but all over Everybody is playing lives in these places are employees. Because I heard you're not even a good golfer. Well, I don't know where you heard that, but. All over. I don't know. Everybody is playing Ricky.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah, maybe I told you that just because we're going to gamble. No, no, but because you're not out there to play good golf. No, you're ill informed. But that's OK. I mean, it's fine. But I'm not a great golfer. I'm not. Good, thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But I'm better. I know I can beat you because I've seen some twins. I can't wait to find out. Yeah, me too. But anyhow, here's what I did when I did golf. First you have to be careful. We're going to video that whole thing. Wow, there's like $34 there.
Starting point is 00:28:52 That's awesome, man. Thank you, rich man. Anyway, there's like $230. Rich men play golf. I can't believe I'm going to win this. When you can hold your money like this, you need to get a bigger stack. You hold a whole bunch your money like this, you need to get a bigger stack.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You hold a whole bunch of stuff like this. That's your normal grip, isn't it? Right there. Anyway, here's what I did for golf. Okay, I think you gotta find a business you're gonna start. And here's what I did, I played a game with myself. And that game was this, if I hit my certain goals in a given month,
Starting point is 00:29:20 I think you should go touch your dreams. I think you should live in your dreams. I think the more familiar you become with your dream or whatever it is you want, the more you can touch it, feel it, and be around it, the more likely you become comfortable in it, the more likely you'll acquire it. And so one of the big things that I did
Starting point is 00:29:34 was I would set these goals up, whether it be an income goal or a production goal. This is when I was part-time as an entrepreneur. And I'd say, if we hit X, we're gonna go away for one night. And that one night would be to a nice place. It might be like the Ritz-Carlton Laguna Beach, right? Where I would go.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Or the Laquinta Resort in Palm Desert. And I'd do one night in my dream. I'd spend the three or four hundred bucks. My wife would get a nice massage. And I'd go play golf. And guess who you run into those golf courses with? You run into some rich dudes. And I'd run into those guys on the golf course.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And I would get to know them for that weekend, that time. So it wasn't golf. You're touching possibility. You're living your dream. The more you can touch it. If your dream is to feed a million people, spend one day a month actually in those charities feeding people, the more you get comfortable in your dream.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So you don't wait until you're set to do it. You get little, you never do, you know this. Every little thing you've acquired, even getting Eleni, you talked about how you chased her for 13 months, you gotta round her a little bit in the meantime, because the more comfortable she could get with hearing your voice messages or from you, the more likely she's gonna get in your dream.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Because you belong in your dream, but you have to touch it regularly before you get it. And so I would do that, and then golf would quit. So give me an example of when you started touching stuff. Like, when did you get married? How old were you? 25. 25, that's young.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I was young, yeah. Yep. Okay. Like how'd you know that she was the one?'s young. I was young, yeah. Yep. Okay. Like how'd you know that she was the one? Well, we started dating in high school. Yeah. And so I think just, that was a long time to wait really.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you think about it. So I mean it was a long time to wait to get married. Did you have money then? I had no money then. Yeah, you had. No, no, in fact she paid for our wedding and we got married at the Shiloh Inn in Pomona
Starting point is 00:31:01 and my wife paid for the entire wedding and it's cause she worked at that hotel in the banquet department. And my honeymoon that night was one night at the Shiloh Inn Pomona and my wife paid for the entire wedding and it's because she worked at that hotel in the banquet department. And my honeymoon that night was one night at the Shiloh and Pomona. That was the entire honeymoon we took. So I had no money, I mean literally no money. In fact my car was repo'd like about eight months
Starting point is 00:31:15 after that wedding. Wow, you had a car repo'd? What kind of car? I had a car Acura NSX, no Acura, not NSX, Acura Integra. I had that repo'd. They took it away from you. They did, I had my water turned off in my house at one time, we were showering down in the condo.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So that's part of being an entrepreneur. I think a lot of entrepreneurs think, oh this is a sign to stop, right? I've gone broke, this isn't working for me. Most of us, most entrepreneur stories, if you really looked at it, they're nasty, they're ugly. There's a whole bunch of down, embarrassing times. We just stayed, we got off the mat faster.
Starting point is 00:31:44 We didn't, it's not that he didn't go broke at some time or I didn't go broke at some time or there wasn't setbacks. We just kept getting back up and that's the difference. Yeah. So when you made the, from baseball player to the financial company. Yep. So what made you successful there?
Starting point is 00:32:00 What were the one or two or three things that like got you off the mat? The same things as in baseball. Okay, so the massive one, everyone asks me, they ask you this too, what's the one thing you'd have somebody have if you were gonna put them in business? Monster, desire, and hunger.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Massive desire. You show me somebody with just monster desire, I'll show you somebody who will eventually find the right people. You take that over skill. Big time, you know that. Over, I can teach, you know there's tons of people with tons of skills with no heart, no desire, no courage, they lose.
Starting point is 00:32:29 You show me a bunch of, I mean tremendous, like tenacious, relentless, obsessive heart, they'll acquire the skills. Or they'll find the people who have them around them. I heard you were gonna write a book about me. I was in the middle of writing a book about that topic when his came out. Cost me 30 grand with an author
Starting point is 00:32:42 and it's in the trash can somewhere. And yours was unbelievable unbelievable by the way. It's an awesome book. Me and this guy, we literally have similar frequencies. We think about different, this Mandalay Bay shooting that just happened, me and Elena were up in Vegas when the whole thing happened but he was calling me.
Starting point is 00:32:57 We have similar thoughts about some things. Okay, number two thing, desire and hunger. Okay, and then, Norm, this is the basic stuff, but here's the thing, ferocious, crazy, psycho work ethic. So they're aggressive, right? Like, just think about you and I. Like, right now, we're outworking guys at our income level.
Starting point is 00:33:14 If you took guys at our income, our net worth level, I don't know if they're similar or different, but they're decent, right? The fact of the matter is we're outworking them. We're outworking them when we were broke, we're outworking them when we were in the middle, we're outworking them when we got to the top, we're outworking them when we got to the top, we outworked when we fell down.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I outwork people. I get there earlier, I show up sooner, I leave later, I make more phone calls, I dick around less. I'm not small talk, BS, nothing. I'm about making money, closing people, growing my business. And I think it's that, the third thing is that ability
Starting point is 00:33:40 to literally focus in and remove distractions. I don't care what's going on in the world. I don't believe the world's coming to an end. I think what happened when you were in Vegas yesterday is a total tragedy. I prayed about it, I worried about it, but I'm not obsessed about it. I'm not gonna let the media or the world distract me
Starting point is 00:33:54 from my dream, get me off track, because in a year, we're not gonna be thinking about Las Vegas. You're gonna be back to your life thinking, I don't care what happens in the NFL today, Iraq, I'm aware of it, but I'm not putting energy into it. So you know this, how distracted people get. Can you get laser focused on what it is you want?
Starting point is 00:34:12 But more importantly, what the hell you're supposed to be doing. Literally, just show me your habits and what you do. Anybody in any sport will tell you that too. The best guys have this massive, massive hunger. They outwork everybody, and they have this ability to get in. Smaller guys, slower guys. Slower guys.
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Starting point is 00:36:50 that you're gonna hear about in a minute. But this is Nick Santastasso, and I'm so excited that I'm gonna help even get you further exposure to the world. I'm excited, I'm excited. I am too, brother. So you were born with something called Hanhart syndrome. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Nick has a story to tell that you can tell that's probably different than anyone you've ever heard before. This guy's a weightlifter and a bodybuilder and a really good one. We're talking off camera about our diets and training and the pros and cons of doing that. It's interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:37:17 I just keep flashing back. I keep wanna say this to you, but it's only when you tell me a story like that or when you make that move that I Think about you like oh he does have that because your spirits so massive. Thank you I just don't think about it and it takes me a back that I don't frankly right like You're stud in every sense man like a massive freaking champion in every sense By the way, the Lord also wired you with this unbelievable ability to communicate your thoughts in a really passionate, intense, emotional way, which is why he's such a sought-after speaker. Because it's one
Starting point is 00:37:53 thing to live what you're living and to achieve what you've achieved. It's another thing to be able to articulate it where people can actually picture it and see it emotionally, like I'm picturing you on that airplane. That's a gift. So God also wired you with the gift to speak. And so if you have an organization, everybody, right, and you want somebody to come in and inspire them and teach them, take their excuses away, give them the tips and strategies that does it, this man has just got the example beyond belief but also the ability to communicate
Starting point is 00:38:21 it. And so before we move into the bodybuilding stuff, we might as well tell them in the middle because you always don't want to wait until the end, right? So how do they find you? Do they go to your social media? but also the ability to communicate it. And so before we move into the bodybuilding stuff, we might as well tell them in the middle because you always don't want to wait till the end. So how do they find you? Do they go to your social media? If they do, how do they find you there? And how do they find you to speak?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Because I know people watching this are like, okay, I want more of this dude, more of it I'm even gonna get in the time with my let. How do they find you? So on all my platforms, it's at Nick Santanestasso, my Instagram. If you type in Nick, no legs, you know, your boy pops up. That's all right. Sorry, Nick, no legs. So a few words words Ed. Nicknolags, okay. It's good to know.
Starting point is 00:38:49 For booking, it's booking at BookNicSanto.com. But you know that email is linked to my Instagram. And my Instagram is at NickSantoNicSanto. And so they can find me there, but I'm on YouTube and everything. He's everywhere. Which by the way, Wes will do that before bodybuilding. Let me go there first. So one thing you may not know about him, but this dude blew up on Vine, right? And doing, I love that you took your gift, right? Cause I actually consider this now your gift. Amazingly, it's your gift and you're, what you've done with it has magnified it, right?
Starting point is 00:39:17 And so you've taken that gift and you used it for like humor and pranks and stuff. So a lot of them may not know this, but like also social media is a place where they can be entertained and informed and inspired, which they can through with you. And some of these videos are out there, still YouTube and stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So tell them a little bit about what you did. Cause it's like, man, you talk about parlaying something, like taking something, some of my things are deficient. You go, nope, I'm flipping this into a massive strength. You did that on Vine with these pranks and stuff. So tell them about that. So when I was a senior, when all that wrestling stuff, and I was gaining that confidence, the app Vine came out.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And I was like, I'm gonna put myself on the internet. And my thing was, okay, if I can motivate and inspire people, that's great, but I also wanna make them laugh, because I love making people laugh. And so I had a mastermind little group session with my friends, I'm like, what has never been done before? What has never been done because if I post something
Starting point is 00:40:03 that's never been done, it's gotta go viral. And I'm like, guys, how done before you know what has never been done because if I post something that's never been done It's got to go viral and I'm like guys how many is there any legless guys crawling around Walmart pretending to be a zombie No, and they're like exactly they're like no Let's go you know so I live in New Jersey I was in regular clothes, and I put fake blood on my face fake blood you know my clothes I said let's go to Jersey which that Walmart had been kicked out like three times like dude Just don't come back anymore you start too much trouble and they really Jersey, which that Walmart had been kicked out like three times. They're like, dude, just don't come back anymore. You start too much trouble. And-
Starting point is 00:40:27 Did they really? Yeah, yeah. I've been kicked out of that Walmart for franking. And so we were looking for a victim and there was a, we go down the aisle and this guy's looking at paper towels and I'm like, yo, pull out the camera. And so I come around this corner like, dude, we got it in six seconds. He got it in six seconds on mine.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Six seconds, so be creative as you can in six seconds. And so I'm on my way home, still in school. And on the way home, I told myself, I said, if this reaches 500 kids, 500 kids and adults, and they could just see, they could see, look how happy Nick is. Look how happy Nick is joking around. Maybe I could be a little bit happier in my situation.
Starting point is 00:41:04 That's all I wanted. I woke up the next day, had over 80,000 likes and over 80,000 revives, and it went internationally viral. And you know, news articles from all over the world. But Ed, the one that stood out to me the most, the title was NJ Teen, born with disability, turned into a positive.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And that's all I wanted from people. That's all I wanted people to say, well, look at him making the best of a situation because life hands you one hand, one hand and you got to make the best of that hand. You got to pay to play it to the best of your ability. So I wanted people to show, Oh my, maybe my situation's not that bad, or maybe I could play my hand a little bit better. That's all I wanted for people. So, you know, that picked up and I posted a bunch of, now it was just funny.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Now I was just posting funny videos, some zombie pranks, some other things, and I gained a million followers in under a year doing that and created this outlet. And that led me to Fox International hiring me to scare Norman Reedus, the main actor of The Walking Dead in Tokyo, Japan. Which, you know, I always tell people the meaning, the meaning behind all this is when you start to focus
Starting point is 00:42:01 your energy on serving others and helping others, the universe comes back with amazing opportunities. Amazing opportunities. And that's not some voodoo stuff, that's real. The energy you put out, it comes back tenfold when you try to help people. So that's all I wanna do is help people. And so, yeah, just wanna make people laugh.
Starting point is 00:42:17 But seriously, you fully embraced the noise in that to me. It's hilarious, it's funny, but you're like, hey dude, it's like you just say, look, I know you're thinking this about me, I'm gonna make it hilarious, right? And I gotta tell you, like, I'm picturing this dude in middle school starting to get pointed at and made fun of, and then he finds himself just a few short years later in Tokyo, Japan,
Starting point is 00:42:39 million views, doing something that high profile. It's just freaking unbelievable to me, right? I appreciate that. You've also though, I talked about earlier, I don't wanna just tease it, cause you know I'm an athlete, or at least I used to be, or I think I am. You're an athlete, Ed. I still think I'm an athlete.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You've turned this thing into now, like you lift real weights, bro. Thank you. It's not like cute, like, oh, he lifts weights. Isn't that neat? I'm like watching your stuff, I'm like, you have found, it's like, you just won't be stopped. It's like, okay, I'm gonna do bench press.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You think I can't do bench press, I'm gonna do it. And you, I'm watching your, I'm like, what the heck, this dude's unreal. So, you end up going, nah, I don't wanna just like lift weights, like, I wanna do some bodybuilding. Well, yeah, so. This is awesome. Yeah, so I was posting the pranks
Starting point is 00:43:17 and I actually moved out to LA. I was supposed to be a core cast member of like an impractical joker show. Yeah. With like a disabled cast, so you could pull some pretty cool pranks. Oh gosh, yeah, that would be, that's a great idea. Yeah, I moved, I was 18.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I moved out there with a roommate, just me and my roommate, and you know, 18 year old kid, LA is expensive to live in, and I was living, it was paying $2,000 a month for a little shack of like a loft. And two weeks after I signed my lease, they canceled the show, and I didn't have any income. And I went broke, I went, and you know,
Starting point is 00:43:44 talk about how my mom was like, as long as you're happy, we love you. My dad was like, well, you're happy, but you need to be independent, you need to make money. So that was always in my head. I was scared. I didn't know how to be financially independent. I didn't know that I can't work some regular jobs
Starting point is 00:43:57 like people, oh my God, what am I gonna do? So I'm sitting in LA and I'm broke and I refuse to tell my dad I'm broke. I mean, I'm eating like peanut butter and tortillas like, you know, low point for me And but like I'm grateful for that experience. I'm grateful because I live like that I know I know that I can live like that if I ever went, you know Yeah, so I moved home I moved home back to my parents in Jersey and I said Nick what's next and I said that could have been a low point
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I was like you need to stay on what what's next and My the kid I wrestled one one of my best friends, Josh, that I wrestled with, we're still best friends to this day, he was always a big dude, he was always lifting. And I thought to myself, I said, well, if I get in super good shape, which I don't know how to do it yet, but if I get in super good shape,
Starting point is 00:44:37 I love that. If I get in super good shape, how marketable is that? Because you can't buy a fit body. They can't take away from me my shape. I put my blood, sweat, and tears in this. It's very marketable too. So from a business standpoint too, but I did wanna look good naked.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I wanted to look good. And I knew that would instill more confidence in me. I'd be more comfortable in my body because I was out of shape doing pranks. So I'm like Josh, Josh, and I had another buddy Ryan that helped me right in the beginning, and I said this is what I wanna do. I wanna take over the fitness industry because there's no one like me. I'm a unicorn. So if you put me in the industry and I had another buddy Ryan that helped me right in the beginning and I said, you know, this is what I wanna do. I wanna take over the fitness industry
Starting point is 00:45:05 because there's no one like me. I'm a unicorn, you know? So if you put me in the industry and I excel, it's gonna catch. So for the first year I posted these lifting videos, I had no idea what I was doing. And that's what I always tell people, we are the architects of our life
Starting point is 00:45:17 and each and every day we have the ability to learn whatever we wanna learn and implement it. You know, if you don't know it, learn it and implement it. But that's the thing, maybe people are just learning things and not taking action, but you know, you gotta implement it. You know, if you don't know it, learn it and implement it. But that's the thing, we just, maybe people are just learning things and not taking action, but you know, you gotta implement it. So I'm posting these fitness videos for a year and you know, I told people, I told all my following
Starting point is 00:45:33 from you know, pranking, I said, guys this doesn't make me happy anymore, this doesn't fulfill me and you know, when I have kids, I want them to know me for much more than crawling around Walmart. So I was like, I wanna become a fitness model, I wanna become a bodybuilder, I wanna become a fitness model. I wanna become a bodybuilder. I wanna become a keynote speaker
Starting point is 00:45:46 and I wanna break into the mainstream modeling industry. I put out all my goals. I put out all the things that I wanted to accomplish. I said, these are the things I wanna accomplish. I don't know how I'm gonna do them. You either support me or not, but this is what I wanna do. So for the first year,
Starting point is 00:45:59 I was posting these lifting videos with my buddies and I was getting unfollowed, hated on, dude, we love your pranks, why are you doing this you know how you can become a bodybuilder you have no legs one arm like all this stuff same cycle you know when I want to be a wrestler same cycle so I was used to it I was used to the people. You've seen this show before. I was like you I was like you guys are thinking this is a phase for Nick but this is gonna be lifestyle I'm gonna I'm gonna crush this so that's what I tell people
Starting point is 00:46:22 I was going into the gym and it was just trial and error. And that's life. You know, falling on your face and figuring out which approach works for you. Because I couldn't go in the library and say, oh, no legs in one arm, this is how you lift. You know, it wasn't there for me. So we would go into the gym and figure out, you know, how to work.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Well, actually the first six months, I wasn't even working this side. I was like, oh, I don't need this side. You know, I'm just gonna bench press on this side, work this side. And then I fell in love with bodybuilding. I fell in love with the way it felt, you know, therapy. You know, the iron just gonna bench press on this side, work this side. And then I fell in love with bodybuilding. I fell in love with the way it felt, you know, therapy, you know, the iron, this is the therapy.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And so I was like, this is something that I really wanna do and you know, I don't wanna do it half-assed. I wanna do 100%. So I need to figure out this side. So basically it was just like going in there, which micro movements can hit this, you know, with the bands or with resistance and how I'm gonna activate that latch.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Just going in and figuring out different ways. And my knowledge in nutrition got better, my knowledge in training got better, my physique started to change. And people are like, uh-oh. It changed big time though. What ended up happening? Tell them what happened.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I mean, one of the things that happened is you ended up being competitive in shows, right? Yeah, so I wanted to, you know, immersion. I wanted to basically just get in a better environment. In New Jersey, there wasn't much of a bodybuilding environment. So I moved to Tampa about nine months ago. I moved to basically just get in a better environment. In New Jersey, there wasn't much of a bodybuilding environment. Okay. So I moved to Tampa about nine months ago.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I moved to Tampa nine months ago and when I moved, I promised myself, I promised my family, my friends and my supporters. I said, guys, I'm going to step on the stage, the competitive bodybuilding stage for Men's Tzatzik before 2017 was over. So not only was that holding me accountable, but that was basically throwing myself in an uncomfortable situation. It forced me was that holding me accountable, but that was basically throwing myself in an uncomfortable situation, it forced me to level up. And that's what people need to realize is,
Starting point is 00:47:50 if you don't think you're ready for something, jump into it. Like just because it's going to force yourself to learn, but you need to learn to excel. And so embrace the uncomfortable time. So I'm like, Nick, you don't know it, but you'll learn on the way. And so I did a 12 week prep
Starting point is 00:48:03 and my best friend to this day, Cody, Cody and Mitch, Cody trained me, basically dedicated my whole 12 weeks of the prep to training me. And I gave everything to that prep because I was basically making history. No one stepped on the stage looking like this. So I was like, and the thing is, Ed,
Starting point is 00:48:21 people would have gave me an applaud if I stepped out at 12%, body fat. But that wasn't me, no way. I'm like, people would have gave me an applaud if I stepped out at 12% body fat. But that wasn't me. No way. I'm like, you know, people clap anyway. I'm coming out shredded. Just like the wrestling. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Don't grab when I lose. I'm going to win. Yeah, exactly. So I was like, I'm going to come out like the best I could possibly be. How shredded were you? I was pretty shredded. I was probably like five or 6%. And so 12 week prep and actually 10 weeks into my prep I went out
Starting point is 00:48:46 to Mr. Olympia to because I had a big I have a big following in fitness you know bodybuilder people know me all over for bodybuilding so I wanted to go there and that's a recharge for me for people saying you know oh my god you motivate me you know that's where I get my fulfillment is you know people telling me how I impacted them yes so I'm going there I'm recharging and you know we talk about like moments were guided you know moments that were just like, oh my God, this happened for a reason. The Friday, I went to the expo.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Saturday, I went to the expo. Sunday, I was chilling, I was like, I'm not gonna go to the expo, I'm just gonna hang. I was in a hotel room and I'm like, you guys wanna go to the gym? And they're like, yeah. So we went to City Athletic Club, which is a super famous gym in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And I remember my boy, Casey Mitchell, right when I walked in, he was like, dude, the rock is upstairs lifting. I'm like, really? And I walked in, he was like, dude, the rock is upstairs lifting. I'm like, really? And he's like, yeah, I'm like, well, I need to still get a lift in, I'm on prep, I still lift. And he's like, yeah, so I go up there
Starting point is 00:49:32 and here Dwayne was with the security guards. And prior to that, he had retweeted one of my bodybuilding videos on Twitter. So just like, Nick, much respect, love what you're doing. So I told my guys, I'm like, he already knows who I am, we don't need to bug him, I wouldn't wanna be bugged in the gym if I was him, so let you're doing. So I was like, I told my guys, I'm like, he already knows who I am, we don't need to bug him. I don't, I wouldn't want to be bugged in the gym, you know, if I was him. So let's just like chill.
Starting point is 00:49:49 So like we're lifting, we're lifting. And he was in the corner and he pulled off his headphones and you know, everybody bombarded with pictures. And you know, everyone's taking pictures. C.T. Fletcher was there, Kai Green was there, a bunch of studs. And then, you know, yeah, that is a stud gym. And you know, I'm sitting there and I'm posing in the mirror,
Starting point is 00:50:03 you know, I'm like two weeks out just like doing me and a security guard comes up and he's like, can Dwayne meet you? I'm like, yeah, please. And he's like, we'll escort you so you can privately meet him. And so they put me in a corner, I have it all filmed and we dabbed me up and he's like,
Starting point is 00:50:18 man, how you doing? I love your stuff. And he's like, I'm a big fan. And I'm like, dude, I'm a big fan of you. And I was like, I'm gonna do what you did. And he's like, what do you mean by that. And I'm like, dude, I'm a big fan of you. And I was like, I'm gonna do what you did. And he's like, what do you mean by that? And I'm like, dude, you're the rock. People knew you for college football, flag football.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And then you went into WWE and then you just took over every industry, bro. You're like crushing everything. I said, I'm gonna do what you did. And he said, Nick, you're right. Because people like me and you, they put us in any industry and we adapt. We adapted, we overcome.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And he's like, you're gonna do it. And talk about a moment of confirmation for me that I was doing the right thing and after that he's like can I grab a picture and you know another fangirl moment I'm like dude of course I can grab a picture I love you. Right. So you know we took a picture and I told him about my competition you know he's like dude you're shredded I'm like I'm two weeks out that's the only reason why I'm shredded. Right. And so I told him about my competition and everything you know flew home and two weeks later I'm backstage
Starting point is 00:51:06 and I'm pumping up. I'm pumping up for my show and Cody comes over and he's like, dude, The Rock just posted you on his Instagram. I'm like, really? And he wrote this really heartfelt message. It's still there if you scroll down. And you know, very heartwarming message. And at the end he said, Nick, I wanna thank you
Starting point is 00:51:20 for sharpening, sculpting my perspective a little bit more on life. And you know, I tell the guys, you know, I tell my buddies, when I'm up on stage, it's really hard for me to, it's still hard for me to realize the impact I have on people because it's Nick, just Nick. I forget to tell people that I drive a car, but I drive a car. It's just me doing me. So for someone like that to be like, dude, you are moving people. It was just like, oh my God, I'm going the right way.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I'm going- How'd you do in the show? I took, so I placed third in men's physique novice. So it was my first competition. So that like the amateur, I took third and I beat an able, I beat some able-bodied guys and I was like, yes, you know, like, you crushed. How cool is it by the way? Cause by the way, all of you should know this too. You can someday inspire your own heroes, which is what you did with Dwayne, right? You can someday, your example can inspire your heroes. You said a couple
Starting point is 00:52:06 things I just want to go back to because we're like, here we go, flying out of time again, right? Because this is like unreal. Number one, several times you said, I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but I'm gonna do it. So many people are stopped by thinking they need to know how to do something without chasing it. More important is why and your passion for it. The how will reveal itself in the chase. So many people are held back by I don't know how, right? Get your butt in there, start chasing it, the how begins to get revealed. Also I think Duane used an unbelievable word for you which is adapt. He said guys like you and I adapt. If you think about it, your life because of the way that you were
Starting point is 00:52:40 born, you've had to adapt all of your life and champions in anything that yeah they have drive, yes they have goals, they have their incantations, they have the gratitude, they have all that. They also have the ability to adapt. It's one of the things not covered on my show often enough or any shows that I see like this is adaptation, adapting to your environment, adapting to conditions, adapting to circumstances that happen to you and I agree with him. Guys like you, me and him, and I would just say you, specifically, we adapt and we become great at whatever we do.
Starting point is 00:53:10 You're about adapting your entire life. And so stud story, dude. Like now you go dominate. Cause it's interesting, you did the bowling thing, not real good at that. Wrestling, you got even better. Then you've taken the fitness and the bodybuilding to like a legitimate world-class level now, brother. It's like I want to acknowledge that
Starting point is 00:53:26 I think it's freaking awesome. So we are almost out of time and I do I feel like there's something special about you for every audience I you obviously know why you should book Nick to go speak. Let's be real here Okay, you're not gonna have somebody like him ever come into your life come speak to your organization your school or your company Who's literally I mean his, his example's unreal, but his ability to put these words together is unheard of in this space. I mean, like, you're gonna come speak to my company. I can tell you that for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:52 What an honor it is to be with this gentleman here today and to share him with all of you. Most of you are probably familiar from him for the first time from The Secret. He's one of the stars, if not the star of The Secret. And it's an honor to have him today because I consider him on earth, one of, if not the greatest expert on the brain, on the inner mechanics of the brain, mindset and peak performance. So I know it's what all of you want to talk about. So I have John Asaroff here with me
Starting point is 00:54:18 today. John, thanks for being here, brother. It's so good to be here and thank you for giving me the honor to be here with you. So there's two prolific entrepreneurs who are now in this space that are saying these are the things we do and isn't it ironic that we both do them and we're both addicted to them and we both attribute it to our success. So please talk about that brother. So I have my vision boards and I actually have my exceptional life blueprint that I've created. It's about 50 pages of my prayers, my rituals for my spiritual growth, health, wealth, my
Starting point is 00:54:55 money story, my inner mission, my outer mission, you know, some of the stuff, you know, either that I have or that I'm creating. And so I create these visual representations to trigger the biggest part of my brain, called the occipital lobe, and to activate my memory center. So I have vision boards for what I want to create. So I'm giving my brain the exact instructions so that not only it focuses helping me achieve that,
Starting point is 00:55:24 but most people don't understand about vision boards or creating goals in writing that are specific, is that your brain is a deletion and distortion tool as well. So if you give your brain the instruction of this is the stuff that's important to me for health, God, spirituality, charity, fun, experiences, my children, my mother, my father, my son, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And you say, this is what I wanna trade my life for. Delete and distort everything else. Now all of a sudden you're using your brain as a deletion and distortion organism in order to be able to help you hyper-focus on what you want. So part one is get absolute clarity on what you want so your brain helps you eliminate what you don't want part one
Starting point is 00:56:09 right parts two is I Tend to be a goal-seeking guy, right and I used to not celebrate The small stuff and I just it's just like, you know fuck a bigger goal bigger goal bigger goal more bigger bigger and somebody says to me like are you gonna like slow down just to enjoy some of the stuff that you actually have done for yourself or for people in your family and I was like well let me create an accomplished board. So accomplished board So Accomplishboard, you passed that test on your own 40 years ago. Celebrate that. You helped this person who was challenged and celebrate that.
Starting point is 00:56:53 You did this for him or for her or for yourself. Celebrate that stuff to remind yourself, because I'm tough on myself. Like I'm, come on, let's go. It's a goal, let's go. And sometimes I forget the stuff that I have done, the stuff that I do do, that I need to remember. So I create an accomplishment board and a list so I can just go to it when I feel like,
Starting point is 00:57:18 holy shit, am I smart enough to achieve that next thing? Am I good enough? What a lot of people don't know, Ed, is when I was a kid, I used to feel like I wasn't smart enough. And when I was a kid, it helped me back. And today, I still feel like I'm not smart enough. And that fuels me to get smarter. So I use it. I set big goals. I go, God, I don't have the skills. I don't have the knowledge. But I can figure it out. I've got contacts. I've got friends. And there's books, there's Google, there's there's YouTube, there's holy mackerel. I don't need to have all the specialized knowledge anymore. So I have accomplished more, but also,
Starting point is 00:57:52 you know, crap board is what conflicts are happening right now. I often say that there's only four things that are holding you back as a human being. Only four. There's not 25, there's four that are the core. One is if your vision and goal is bigger than your self-image. Okay? So if you feel you deserve it, you can have this vision and goal and be excited about it and motivated about it, you will not do what it takes to achieve. One. Two, if you have limiting beliefs.
Starting point is 00:58:24 If you have a vision and goal but you have limiting beliefs, if you have a vision goal, but you have a limited belief that you're too young, too old, whatever the case is, your limited beliefs will drive your behavior. Three, fear. Fear of being embarrassed, ashamed, ridiculed, or judged. Fear of failure, fear of disappointment.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And we'll talk about disappointment and fear of succeeding and failing again. Disappointment. And then the fourth one, by the way, is you're lacking the knowledge and skill required. So that actually sets up a self doubt trigger, which activates the Frankenstein brain, which causes you to lose motivation. But most people prefer to master disappointment and comfort zones, instead of mastering change. So if I master disappointment, I know what I got. I just have to deal with, okay, this is what I got.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And if I master my comfort zone, then at least this is the devil I know. Yes. Versus mastering change, and we know what's going on in our brain, we know what's happening neurologically, biologically, emotionally, physically. And all of that is a skill.
Starting point is 00:59:30 It's just a skill. So why not just master change? Why not become an adaptationist right now in the time that you need it the most in the world? Because if you don't, then you're just going to keep repeating the same patterns that are going to get reinforced and it makes it harder in three months six months in six years so master change now and make that one of your core competencies and then you master
Starting point is 00:59:58 your life. Oh my gosh you guys anybody familiar with my work know how much I love this man and how much we light up on these things. Similarly, I love the way that you phrase things. And guys, one thing about change, one of the reasons we hesitate to change as humans is it's an energy depletion too. Humans kind of want to conserve energy. You have to realize one thing, everybody,
Starting point is 01:00:17 and we're gonna go to one more part, and then I'm gonna ask you about grief. But yeah, guys, we love to gravitate towards what we're most familiar with. We create these patterns in our life and we repeat them over and over and over again. And if you're not conscious of what they are, if you don't create new ones, you're just repeating the same life in a different year over and over. And that script that John talked about, your script is the same as it was five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, with slightly different characters and slightly different dressings
Starting point is 01:00:48 in the room. I'm fired up about today's show because we're getting right into what it takes to win. And that is this, write this down, one more, one more. See, I accepted a long time ago, I wasn't the smartest, the best looking, the fast enough with the best background, the most connections. I didn't the smartest, the best looking, the fast enough, with the best background, the most connections. I didn't have any of those things. What I could control was my work ethic. You've heard me speak many times about outworking everybody, but I think that just feels good when we hear it, but most people don't take it seriously. If you think
Starting point is 01:01:19 that I have a little bit of success in my life, I can tell you what I attribute it to. Yes, self-confidence, yes mindset, visualization, goals, all the things I talk about all the time. Listening skills, influence, energy transfer, how to be happier, all of that stuff applies. When you get to winning, for me, it's come down to maxing out. And what maxing out means is, you do one more at least
Starting point is 01:01:41 than you think you're capable of. So when you're done, whatever you're doing, whether it's at the gym, phone calls or meetings or in sports, one more shot, one more throw, one more swing of the golf club or the baseball bat, the separator is for the winners, they do one more. I'm addicted to one more and so I want your mantra going forward to be one more. What does that look like if we're working out? That means when we're in the gym and we say I'm gonna do five sets of ten, I'm crazy. Like I'm a psycho because I want to win. I want to be somebody. I want to
Starting point is 01:02:11 separate. I want to compete and the way I do that isn't with my giftedness because I wasn't born with a bunch of gifts and I think gifts are crap. I think for the most part gifted people struggle in life because things come easy to them. I like that things haven't come easy for me in my life. I like that I have natural talents in every area and maybe you like that about you too. Maybe you've looked at yourself all your life and thought man I don't have that natural beauty or that natural talent or this gift for creativity or intellect or humor. I don't have any of those things but what I got is I will outwork you.
Starting point is 01:02:45 And so at the gym, one of the things I focus on, they say it's five sets of ten, when I'm at ten I go one more, bam, eleven. If I'm running on the treadmill and it's a 45 minute run, I never finish at 45, I always go one more minute, 46. If I'm at the office and I'm supposed to make 25 phone calls that day, when I'm at the end of the day, I always do one more. If I've got meetings, I always do one more. My mantra for three decades in business has been one more. Why?
Starting point is 01:03:15 Because we get out of life what we think we deserve. And I'm the kind of guy that I know when you do 45 minutes on the treadmill and I do 46, I deserve to be fitter. I know that when I'm lifting weights and I watch you do five sets of ten and every single time I do one more. When it's a set of five, I do six. When it's a set of eight, I do nine. When it's 45 on the treadmill, I do 46. When it's supposed to be 20 phone calls, I make 21. When it's supposed to be an eight-hour workday, I work nine. Whatever it is, I always do one more. And
Starting point is 01:03:45 what that does is it makes me eventually think I'm doing things other people aren't willing to do, so I should get things other people aren't going to get. And if you go to the root of the things I believe philosophically about winning, the people that win, the great athletes that I coach, when I watch the really gifted golfer and the one who actually wins, the gifted golfer, they do what they're supposed to do. You never know they weren't working hard. It's not like people don't work hard. Everybody works hard.
Starting point is 01:04:12 That's a given now. But what's the separator to where you become the maxed out version of you? See the gifted golfer, they hit their 100 balls because they're supposed to, but the not so gifted one that ends up winning, they hit a hundred and one, or a hundred and ten, or a hundred and twenty. I watched them on the driving range and I could hear them say, one more, one more. What's the difference between Kobe Bryant and other gifted NBA players when he played, or Michael Jordan when they played, or right now Kevin Durant, people tell me, or Steph Curry, they're constantly,
Starting point is 01:04:45 when everyone else is done shooting in the gym, they say one more. Larry Bird was legendary for one more, one more. The people that would throw the passes to him, the ball guys, and practice like, he always wants more, he always wants more. The great hitters that I know, the Mike Trouts and MLB, they're gifted, but they just take a little more. They take that extra batting practice, that extra session. They're always doing extra. That's the separator. Like you can learn all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:10 You can digest all the tactics and information that I give out, but if you're not willing to do one more, eventually there's a part of you that says, maybe, maybe I don't deserve it. I'm just doing what everybody else is doing, and that's not good enough. It's not even good enough to do more than everybody else. It's your maxed out level. It's one more of everything. And so whether that's a phone call, an email, a text, an appointment, one more time you
Starting point is 01:05:34 tell your spouse you love them, one more time you go in and kiss your children good night, one more hug of somebody, one more phone call, one more everything. I want your theme to be one more. Have I said that enough times for you today? So what's that really look like an application? Well, the second thing it does for you is you actually do more reps of whatever it is you're doing. And when we do more repetitions, we get better. And when we do more repetitions, we're more productive. So number one is the psychology part. If you're someone who's always doing things other people aren't willing to do, you always max out, you always go to the next level, you convince yourself you
Starting point is 01:06:07 deserve to win. You can take low self-esteem, low identity, low confidence and change it over time by building this habitual addiction to doing one more, this obsession of one more. All the greats do one more and all the average don't. It's not that the average don't work hard. It's not that the average at your company, it's not that they don't work hard. They probably work pretty hard. But do they always do extra? Do they always do one more?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Do they always do 10 more if they need to? Do they always get after it? The other part of it, number two, is you just get better because of the reps. You're just doing more of something, you get better. You get stronger. You become a better phone caller when you make one more phone call every day. You become a better communicator when
Starting point is 01:06:50 you do one more meeting every single day. You get better at coordination in your sport or at the gym by just doing more reps. Yes, you get better. So that's the second layer. But the third one is, you stack the odds in your favor. See for me I want the odds that I'm going to win to increase. The larger numbers we play in life in every area more is always better. People tell you more isn't always better and almost everything more is better just so you know and almost everything. People who tell you more isn't better in most things are lazy and they try to justify their own weakness. Don't let And they try to justify their own weakness.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Don't let people who are justifying their own weakness convince you that you working hard, you doing more isn't the pathway to your success. People say, well, you gotta work smarter, not harder. That's a lie, because everybody who wins works smarter. The separator is who works harder. And by the way, we become smarter through working harder. All the new revelations, all the
Starting point is 01:07:45 breakthroughs, all the new discoveries always come when you're doing one more. Always come through more repetitions. You find new ways, new strategies, new words, new keys by higher repetitions. So even if you believe working smarter is more important, you will become smarter by doing more. So if you work 300 days a year, let's just say 300 days a year, that's 300 more phone calls every single year. Over five years, that's 1,500 more contacts. 1,500 more contacts. Just think about that just for a second.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Over 30 years, that's 9,000 more contacts. What are the odds the person who makes 9,000 more contacts or even 300 more a year are gonna win? You give me two average people that walk in a room, same ability, same skills, same backgrounds, same product. One of them makes 300 more contacts a year than the other one. Who's gonna win? We know. How about over five years? One of them makes 1,500 more contacts over five years. Who's gonna win? Over a lifetime, 30 years of work, one makes 9,000 more contacts, who's going to win? You stack the odds in your favor. Never mind the person who'd made the 9,000 more contacts is better.
Starting point is 01:08:55 They've got more reps, they've got more confidence, they believe they deserve to win. They just have 9,000 more opportunities. How about a golfer? One of them makes 300 more swings a year, a year. And that's just one more swing a day, right? And over five years, 1,500 more, 9,000 over a lifetime. Who's more likely to win? So you pick anything you want, you begin to stack the odds in your favor.
Starting point is 01:09:16 How about at the gym? If every day you went one more minute in your cardio. So it's supposed to be 45, you do 46. Do you know what that starts to do to you? You start knowing you're different. You start knowing you obliterate standards. You start knowing you can break through. When you break through an artificial barrier,
Starting point is 01:09:32 like 45 minutes, you do one more. It sets a catalyst for your entire day. It sets a syntax. It sets a mindset for the rest of your life. Never mind the fact that if you do 300 more minutes, which is 9,000 more over your lifetime, who's going to be more fit? So you begin to stack these things and your entire life changes. This is what I like to call compound pounding. Most people underestimate
Starting point is 01:09:56 what time can do when backed up with massive activity. Right as I'm speaking to you, I'm looking out at the ocean right now and there there's a massive rock formation, and you can see the rivets in the rocks. And what caused those rivets in the rocks was compound pounding of the ocean hitting that rock over and over and over again, over and over, compound pounding against that rock. And over time, that ocean breaks the rock down over time, where you can see the breakdown in a rock that water does hitting it. Think about that over time. Not one time when the water hits it. Not two times.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Not five times. When you add up years and years and years of that water hitting the rock it breaks it down. And that's like getting through to your dream. You have to be like that water hitting the rock I'm staring at right now. That over time that compound pounding breaks down the barriers, breaks down the obstacles, breaks down anything in your way of getting to your dream. So I'm sold out on all the strategies and tactics that I
Starting point is 01:10:56 teach you, but what I believe in completely is the power of compound pounding. And here's the crazy thing about most people. They will give up on their dream before the compounding has been allowed to kick in. So they'll work at it and they'll work at it and they'll work at it and they don't see the breakthrough. But what they don't understand is that rock was getting ready to break if you just keep pounding against it.
Starting point is 01:11:19 But because most people don't see the evidence, see, if you watch that water hit that rock over one day, you're gonna see no difference. Two days, no difference. Five days, no difference. Maybe even a year, there's no difference. Maybe even five years. But you have the compound pounding of every wave hitting that rock over and over again. There's an inevitability to the breakdown of the rock. That's true of your goals and dreams as well. There's an inevitability to success. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when when we adopt one more, when we adopt compound pounding. Do you know the kind of confidence you begin to
Starting point is 01:11:53 have when you just accept in your life that I am going to be relentless, I'm always gonna do extra, and you accept the fact that all things break down over time. All the barriers will go away, all the obstacles will go away, everything in your way will go away if you keep after it over an extended period of time. Most people overestimate what they can do in a year. They do. They set up goals for a year and they overestimate where they're going to get to.
Starting point is 01:12:20 And they dramatically underestimate what they can do in a decade. And the reason for that is most people don't understand the power of compound pounding. So I want you to accept today that you're going to be relentless, that you're going to keep coming, that you're like a dripping faucet. You're like those waves hitting the rock. Other people are going to get slowed down. Other people are going to take a break. Other people are going to flinch.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Other people are going to cool it. Other people are going to believe they've made it. Or maybe some people are going to believe they can't make it, but you're gonna be relentless, you're gonna be repetitious, you may not be the fastest, you may not be the smartest, you may not be the strongest, you may not be the most beautiful, you may not have the most articulate thoughts and ideas in the world, but what you got is compound pounding. What you got is one more, and when they get weak you just keep comping. When they flinch you blow their doors
Starting point is 01:13:04 off. That's how you win in life, is you keep getting after it and keep getting it after it until the job gets done. You show me somebody who can succeed, so a lot of people can be excited for a day. They can be excited for a month. Some people can be excited for a year or two or three years. But the winners, they stay excited as long as it takes to get the job done. They keep after it until the job gets done. They never stop. They're always after it. And that's where their strength comes from. That's where their confidence comes from is knowing their capacity to keep coming at you and that all your competition is going to get weak. They're going to get tired. They're going to surrender. They're going to give in. They're going to think they made it. They're
Starting point is 01:13:40 going to take a break. They're going to cool it. And you just keep coming. It's just nature. Just like the nature of the ocean against that rock, it's just nature that you run down your dream, that you knock down your dream. I want you to implement all the things that I teach on Max Out. All the tactics, all the strategies, but more than anything I want you to buy into the fact of an inevitability of you winning. That it's inevitable. That it might not be a year or two years or three years, but you're going to stay excited and you're going to keep doing one more until the job gets done. Today's message is very simple. You can win. You should win and you will win. I want you to feel this. You will win if you just keep coming. You keep getting after it. You
Starting point is 01:14:22 keep doing one more. You can control this. You can't control all the exterior things in your life, people's attitudes, how they treat you, who cancels on you, who changes their mind, who hates on you, who lets you down. But you can control this. You can always go 46 instead of 45. You can always go 11 instead of 10. You can always make the next phone call, always do one more meeting, always do one more, always,
Starting point is 01:14:44 always, always do one more meeting, always do one more, always always always, and I promise you you will knock down that rock that's in between you and your dream and make them come true. Today's really simple, you're gonna knock down whatever that rock is that's been between you and your dream, you're gonna keep after, you're gonna be relentless, you're not gonna give in, you're gonna be the person who stays excited until the entire job gets done, until that dream is real, and you know long term all these other people they're gonna flinch they're gonna get weak and you won't. You've adopted a max-out mindset and I want to remind you today to stay connected with me. I want you to win. Hope
Starting point is 01:15:17 you can feel it today. I want to break it down to its most simple form which is that you use nature to your advantage. You use the force of you, the force of effort, the force of sustained effort over an extended period of time to wear out the obstacles in front of you in your dream. I want you to feel the confidence that comes with it. I'm telling you, look at me, listen to me. You're going to do this. You're going to win if, and it's a big if, if you'll just adopt it. It ought to be written everywhere, one more, one more, max out, everywhere you can put it.
Starting point is 01:15:49 It's inevitable. It's not if anymore. It's just when. And I want to remind you of that. And another reminder is the max out two minute drill. I'm trying to stay so connected with you. I want to know what you're going through. I want to know what your issues are, your thoughts, your hopes, your aspirations, your
Starting point is 01:16:04 dreams so that I can help you with the right material, the right tactics, the right inspiration. So every day on Instagram we run the max out two minute drill and it's very simple. Here's what winners get by the way. The winners of the max out two minute drill win coaching calls with me, with my guests, tickets to see me speak, copies of my book, max out gear. There's some going forward now in a few weeks that are riding on my jet with me, doing their coaching call live on my jet. There's so many great things that you can win and there's three ways to win that prize. When I make a post in my main feed on Instagram, you just make a comment within the first two minutes
Starting point is 01:16:36 and not just hashtag max out, make a comment in the first two minutes. We pick a winner every day who just makes a comment in the first two minutes and we usually extend it to about five minutes. Number two, make a comment on other people's comments. So after you've left your comment, comment on a few other people's comments. I'm going to begin to reward people who connect and collaborate because I want you doing that with each other in the community. So make a comment on someone else's comment. And third, if you miss the first two to five minutes, that's not a problem. Just make a comment every day
Starting point is 01:17:03 on every post I make and at the end of the week we pick winners who just make a comment every day regardless of whether it's at two minutes or four hours or eight hours afterwards. It doesn't matter what time it is. So there's three ways to win. I want to encourage you to participate in the Max Out Two Minute Drill. Share and subscribe to today's program. I hope it gave you hope. I hope it gave you certainty, and I hope it gives you a very simple recipe to dominate. So if there's one thing I struggle with in my health, it's staying properly hydrated,
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Starting point is 01:19:32 Myletts show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. You'll never miss an episode that way. We're going to talk today with the great Rob Dyrdek. Welcome to the show, brother. Hey, thank you for having me. Speaking of life and needle moving I don't know if you texted me this or you posted it
Starting point is 01:19:48 So probably doesn't matter but that's the micro stuff the macro is you're so obsessed with this that you look at like duration of time on the planet And it was something about you just realize you read something on you're laughing But you did you text me this would you post it? I just posted that I wanted to live 1 million hours. That's exactly right. So you read something that convinced you that you're going to, that you could live to a particular age and you deduced how many hours there. So I actually think this is brilliant because this type of focus causes us to
Starting point is 01:20:18 live with intention and attention and the lack of, I think all the time, do you know when I pray at night, you're gonna laugh at this. Never said this out loud, not even to my wife, I'm gonna tell you and about 70 billion people right now. When I pray at night, one of my last prayers is that I'm gonna live to 128 years old. Okay, and I really believe now again,
Starting point is 01:20:40 someone will listen to this in three years, wow, it's so sad he passed away. But I have that prayer and that intention and I've repeated it over and over and over and over again because I believe if I don't pick a number, if I don't pick a time, if I don't set a goal, if I don't, then I'll be up to the whims of whatever else comes my way. And I really believe that you create a space when you set something like that that didn't exist before you did it. And then you find the behaviors, the people, the things, the thoughts, the technology,
Starting point is 01:21:05 the nutrition to fill it up. What I didn't do was calculate the amount of hours that it gives me to then optimize that time. So speak to that whole thing. Yeah. And look, I'm, you know, it makes, it really makes me happy. That means we're going to, we're literally, we're going to be friends deep into our hundreds. We're going to be having these conversations about, well, what do you think? You're thinking you're going to 128. You think you're good. I don't know. I push. I'm feeling pretty good right now.
Starting point is 01:21:32 But I think about it more from a, this is what I'm big on. This is your existence, right? And this is, this is the framework of the experience, the human experience, right? You only truly can judge anything, your energy, how well you're using time, everything that's happened in your past, how you actually feel in the present moment. You can only do it in the present moment and you only experience it in your mind, right? And then you have to make a decision of like, I want to change all of these things so
Starting point is 01:22:04 I'm going to create a better future like, I want to change all of these things. So I'm going to create a better future experience. That is the human experience. And I realized that it that I wanted to make it last to 112. I initially wanted to live to 104 and be shot in a rocket into space and explore the universe without the light pollution from planet Earth for the last year before I died and then floated out into the cosmos. Now that was before I had a wife and kids. And so it's like now the audacity of don't worry about me and then like I'm up there for like 24 more years like that changed. And then when I read the book Iki guy, right?
Starting point is 01:22:45 The Japanese long life and happiness book, um, they talked about super centurions and I'm like, Ooh, like that brand. I want to be a super centurion. So then I made it at, um, then I made it, uh, that I would want to live to 112. And then as I started getting deeper into, okay, how many days is that? All right. Okay. That's how many days I have. This is how many days that I've done so far. Then when I was going, going through my time matrix and looking at all these different things where I spend time of like, wow, I spend nearly as much time shooting a television show, as I will picking up my kids and taking
Starting point is 01:23:26 them to school for the year. Right? And, and to me, as I just started looking at these hours and then where am I, where am I losing a lot of time? On the couch watching Netflix. You know what I mean? It's, it's me and the wife on there watching our favorite show. But boy, when you start looking at what that is, man, you're letting, you're letting the hard eight to 9% go on the couch. You know what I mean? Like it's cold hard reality. But as I looked at that, you know, I'm I then was like, you know, what is like, what's a round number of time and like, wow, 1 million hours is 114 years and 54 days. I'm gonna I'm gonna experience a million hours on this earth, right?
Starting point is 01:24:08 And so of course, a lot of people push back on like, oh, it's good, yeah, you're like a vegetable, what are you gonna do? And it's like, I didn't even contemplate that. And it's because you live in two different mindsets. I live in a mindset that I just keep getting healthier and happier, more balanced, lighter, life is more effortless, my system, that is my entire body is more efficient. And I can show you in blood work, I can show you in net worth, I can show you in time,
Starting point is 01:24:39 and I can show you in qualitative data that I have collected about how I feel about my life, work and health, that I am in healthier, better physical condition, wealthier, more balanced and happier in the data, which only proves to me there's no reason why you can't keep getting healthier, happier and wealthier for the remainder of your life. And then I'll just fall right off a cliff. You know what I mean? Whatever it ends up ending. But again, what's it go back to? I want to live with absolute intention and I want to experience every moment that I get into and feel the vividness and the richness and the beauty that is the human experience and life. You know you don't want to be so future focused and trying to create a
Starting point is 01:25:30 better future that you never feel the present, right? And so for me I really began to understand what state my mind is at all the time at all times and how do I learn to control that and begin to put in systems and solutions that keep my mind in a balanced state is really one of the bigger things that I've learned to do over the last year or so. That's one of those systems. Well, you know, the, if you can imagine this, your,
Starting point is 01:26:01 your mind is, is balanced in this way, right? It's past, present, and future. And so there's sort of five sections as I see it. And on one end, it's dwelling in the past. You ain't doing nothing. You want to sit and dwell about something you did, you ain't doing nothing. Then the next level up is rectify, right? You are problem solving, taking action, something that happened in the past. So now you're in the present past where okay, I'm dealing with something that happened now I'm problem solving taking action to make a better future, right? You sit right in the middle and you experience it or you go to the next level is creating, right?
Starting point is 01:26:41 And so now you're in this future present, right? Where you're experiencing the present while creating the future. That's, that's where you want to toggle, right? Because what goes beyond creating the future is wishing, right? Because then if you're sitting there wishing the future was better and wishing like, like this will be like this or you're dwelling, you're not moving. Right? And so you want to be either experiencing the moment or handling something that happened in the past, present, or creating something in the future, present state and, and, and swing between that. Right? And so
Starting point is 01:27:16 if you can imagine that's your mind, what you, what you think about on an ongoing basis is ranges between all of that. That's where the action lives. Now it's the quality of your mind and your mind's quality is either in a proactive state, a reactive state, an inactive state or a magnetic state. Right. And for me, when I, when all aspects of my life are in order, meaning I'm eating super clean, everything, all my goals and visions and everything is running smooth. I'm spending very little time rectifying the past because I've designed my present future
Starting point is 01:27:53 experience with such intention. I'm dealing with very little disruption that then I eventually go beyond just being proactive to this magnetic state. And I know you've experienced this before because this is when your everything is going at operating at such a level that answers start coming to you without you asking the questions. It is the law of attraction that that's the unexplainable force that lives in the quantum field where your energy is at such a high level. You are so clear of
Starting point is 01:28:25 not only being present and experiencing, but creating your better future. And you rise to this, you vibrate to this level to where the answers show up and you never ask the questions, right? And for me, I'm trying to master all aspects of my existence to where I basically sit in that state of toggling between future present and proactive and magnetic at all times. Oh my god. It's a deep one. Okay that's an all-timer. I want everyone to go back the last five or six minutes there. That's an all timer. Um, when we talk, I always filter it through my life and my perspective.
Starting point is 01:29:11 I just realized something cause I do know what that vibrational frequency feels like when I am getting answers to questions I haven't even asked. It's not frequent enough. And the reason it's not frequent enough is I'm depleting my energy reserves to not put myself in a state where I can have that type of energy and what I call vibrate at that frequency. And you're exactly right. And that's the other reason why rest recovery, being present matters. I just really pulled something here.
Starting point is 01:29:37 I just really did. But let me say this. Every single thing matters. Every thought, every action, every decision, every single thing that you do is interconnected to get you to that space. And for me, it's like, I think, oh, I'll have a glass of wine. I'll have a couple chips. It will pull away from that.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I'll make one bad decision from eating bad that will then cause me to be short with my wife that leads to this entire and pulls me right out of the magnetic state. Right? Because it's like even when you're there, it's really sensitive and you could just get one thought that could rip you out of that. You could look at one text that could rip you out of that right it's like and so that requires really really understanding every single bit of you and then giving value to everything you do rather than trying to like pocket your values oh if I eat healthy oh if I stay focused oh if I clear out this stuff oh if I rest or recovery versus
Starting point is 01:30:43 like no it is all works together to make the best version of you. How committed are you? How disciplined are you to live at the level that you know you have to live at, at a consistent enough basis that it becomes to compound effortlessly and become a way of life rather than getting disciplined again. That's really what it is. You know? Well, for me, I burn myself out going from those states to the good state back to the bad state. I'm still having wine with you at dinner tonight, but, um, I know exactly what you're talking about. And, uh, everybody, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:18 y'all hear the show every single week. It's pretty rare that I'm this quiet, because I just, I, I really process a lot of information when you and I go like this. It's good for me. I'm already thinking of stuff I'm going to say and I'm going to teach that I'm going to steal, that I'm going to make mine. Here's a clip of Ed Milet appearing on Impact Theory with host Tom Bilyeu. Your actions also have to line up. You're never going to be able to think your way to success. I love Think and Grow Rich. It's my favorite book other to think your way to success. I love thinking grow rich. It's my favorite book other than my scriptures, but I gotta be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:31:48 You don't just think and get rich, you gotta do stuff. The question then becomes, what do I need to think and what do I need to do simultaneously or in congruency that produced the result? And that's why I did the things that I, I had the things in the book. Second chapter, as you know, and I know you're a huge Matrix fan.
Starting point is 01:32:02 I like, as I'm writing this chapter, this is Tom's chapter. I was like, this is the greatest chapter I've ever written. I love this. But one of the points that I make in the book is being able to slow things down and get into bullet time. But there's two things I love about the Matrix. One, I think that's an absolute example of the reticular activating system in the brain.
Starting point is 01:32:18 And so you do have to be good. But the question in life becomes, listen, I believe you're one decision, one relationship, one meeting, one show, one thought, one new emotion, potentially away from changing your entire life. I've proven this in my life, so have you. And the question then becomes, how do you find them? And this RAS is super powerful in our brains because it's the mechanism that filters the
Starting point is 01:32:38 entire world to us. It literally reveals to us our reality, just like you just said. It reveals our reality. I just bought a Tesla, I drove it here today. I like what Musk is doing, I'm like, I'm gonna get one of these Teslas. Man, every freaking where I go, I see Teslas now. Red one, babe, hey, there's a white one.
Starting point is 01:32:54 There's a plaid, three lanes over, other side of the freeway, babe. Black Tesla just drove by, she's like, how in the world do you know this? Because it's become important to me. And it's now in my filter. It's now a part of my RAS. That's why when you're in a loud room,
Starting point is 01:33:08 all the auditory sounds, someone doesn't even say it loud, Tom, you can hear your own name in a room because it's become important to you. See, the question in life is, can you make your goals, your ambitions, the emotions you want, the thoughts, the relationships you need to become your Teslas?
Starting point is 01:33:21 And if they become your Teslas, things slow down. The other part of the matrix I love, I'll come up for air, is Neo is the one. He's the one. And when my wife and I were little, I literally live on the beach now, brother, that we used to walk on. We were, in high school we were dating,
Starting point is 01:33:35 and we'd walk on this beach and go, babe, I'm gonna get you one of these beach houses. We're gonna get one of these beach houses. She goes, you are? I go, yep. And I have no idea how. And I go home, I go, dad, who are these freaking people? Who lives there? He's like, I don't know who the heck they are, I go, yep. And I have no idea how, and I go home, I go, dad, who are these freaking people?
Starting point is 01:33:45 Who lives there? He's like, I don't know who the heck they are, but they don't work with me, you know. And I figured something out. When you find a family or a person that's happy and successful, or either one, somewhere back in their lineage, they weren't. That family wasn't.
Starting point is 01:34:02 And then the one shows up, the one. And that one changes that family wasn't. And then the one shows up, the one. And that one changes that family forever. It changes the way they live, the way the world treats them, the way they think they're the Neo. They're the one in their family. And in my family, I'm the one, I'm the one. I didn't like it, I didn't hope for it, I fought for it. I fought for it.
Starting point is 01:34:21 I did the things in this book to become the one in my family. And if you're listening to this or watching it, why don't you consider the fact that potentially maybe you're the one. And the fact that you don't think you are or that you're not qualified to be the one or don't have the background or the skills
Starting point is 01:34:35 or the confidence probably makes you the one because that was me. Now, what does the one do? What do they introduce to the family that changes it so profoundly? I think they introduce a different way of thinking, Tom. I think they introduce a belief system that the world doesn't dictate the terms
Starting point is 01:34:51 to our family anymore. We're gonna dictate the terms to the world. And that we have some measure of control over the results of our lives. I think most people go through their lives thinking they have no measure of control. And I had a huge breakthrough, brother, two weeks ago. After I wrote the book, and as you know,
Starting point is 01:35:06 as I wrote the book, when my dad died, I thought, I need to write this book because my dad taught me all these profound lessons of one more, and I'm the next to go. I don't know if it's this week or 60 years from now, but I'm the next to go. And I woke up about three o'clock in the morning, 3.15 exactly, and I woke up Christian,
Starting point is 01:35:22 I said, babe, wake up, and I was in tears. This was just two weeks ago. said babe someone helped daddy now I'm 51 bro my dad was sober for 35 years this never occurred to me she was what I said someone helped my dad she goes what do you mean someone helped my dad in his darkest moment of his life get sober. In some coffee shop or quiet place when my dad was down on his knees losing his family, some precious human being helped my dad. I don't know who they are.
Starting point is 01:35:54 They changed our entire family. Max and Bella's lives are changed because this person that we don't know. Millions of people I've reached because this person helped my dad. She goes, that's amazing. I said, here's what's more amazing. What qualified them to help my dad?
Starting point is 01:36:11 Their shame, their mess, that they were also a drug addict and alcoholic. This precious soul, the things that the most ashamed of, that they think disqualified them the most in life, is the very thing that qualified them to help my dad in the most important moment of his life is where their giftedness, their experience, their shame, their setbacks is what qualified them
Starting point is 01:36:34 to change my life and my dad's life in this dark space. I've been in personal development, my dad's been sober forever, it never occurred to me. The mess you have in your life, the things you are most ashamed of and embarrassed by that you think are the most insignificant, that disqualify you the most, are probably the very things that will qualify you to connect with another human being in your business or your personal life to change their life. And don't ever underestimate the ripple
Starting point is 01:37:00 effect. They were just helping some man get sober in some dark space in his life, never knowing the one was his son. Never knowing that this whole existence of my family was changed, not just by me being the one, not just by my dad's decision, but by a completely flawed person. Think about this person. At some point, they were stealing from their family, driving drunk, did things they're completely ashamed of in those states. That was the experience that qualified them to change my dad's life. So if you're listening to this or watching it,
Starting point is 01:37:31 stop discounting yourself. Stop carrying these bags of your life of the things you're embarrassed or ashamed of or that you think are insignificant that don't amount to anything. Those are the things you, precious you, that could change another precious human being's life in a moment where they need you the most. And if you don't believe you're qualified,
Starting point is 01:37:49 if you don't believe you can do it, you're going to miss those moments in your life. And your entire existence here wasn't what it was supposed to be. Here's a clip of Ed Milet appearing on the Heavy Checklist podcast. The scripture says, hey, where there's no vision, the people will perish. If you dig deeper at that, it's not that people don't have any vision. Look, would you rather be fit or fat? Would you rather be happy or sad? Would you rather be rich or poor?
Starting point is 01:38:12 Right? Like, would you rather have a private jet or fly commercial? These are easy questions. People have a vision. Their issue is depth perception. They think they're further away than they are. And because they think they're so far away and it's so complicated, everything stays that far away all their life. They keep it there by their behaviors. But what if the truth is you're
Starting point is 01:38:31 one decision away from changing your life, you're one relationship, you're like I said earlier, you're one podcast, you're one YouTube video, you're one new book, you're one new meeting. Check this out. About three weeks ago I'm playing golf and a really good friend of mine goes, I want you to meet this guy, I want you to play golf and tomorrow your net worths are similar and he's a fascinating dude and there's you know meet guys every single day worth hundreds of millions of bucks, let's get together. I go alright I'll play with him tomorrow. So I go to the first tee and he goes, oh Ed my lad I'm a huge fan of yours I can't wait to spend five hours I got
Starting point is 01:39:01 all these questions for you. I go, Ben ain't how it's gonna work bro. I already know about me, I want to know about you. Yeah. Tell me your story and he goes, I can't wait to spend five hours, I got all these questions for you. I go, Ben, ain't how it's gonna work, bro. I already know about me, I wanna know about you. Tell me your story. And he goes, I can do it on the first tee, it's really simple, I go give it to me. He goes, 1986, I loaned a dude 50 grand. So did my best friend. This is fascinating, bro.
Starting point is 01:39:16 And he goes, a week later, my best friend said, got scared, said, give me the 50 grand back. I kept the loan to the guy. He goes, it turned into 750 million bucks. I said, get the heck out of here, dude. Who'd you loan that money to? Jeff Bezos. I went you gotta be kidding me. That dude was one relationship, one decision, one loan away from completely changing his life. Now that's an exaggerated example. I don't have that story but I have a series of little, as you've said,
Starting point is 01:39:45 one more decision, one more meeting, one more breakthrough, one new emotion, one new thought and every single time I've changed my life he did it in one big one. But you're right, you're way closer to the change than you think you are and oftentimes it's a very simple change.

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