THE ED MYLETT SHOW - The RAW Truth- with Seth Rollins

Episode Date: August 6, 2019

The making of an overnight success revealed! This WWE SUPERSTAR needs no introduction! He is often referred to as the most talented professional wrestler ever seen, Seth Rollins! From wrestling his friends in his backyard as a young boy to becoming a Two-Time WWE CHAMPION, the in-between was actually the most critical piece for Seth. In this interview, we talk about the RAW truth about OVERNIGHT SUCCESS. We dive deep into what it takes to set your mind to something and relentlessly pursue it, knowing in your heart there is no plan B.  When we look at the people at the top we admire, we can forget how many hours, days and years of preparation that went into getting them where they are today. There is an art to the grind. There is an art to MAXING OUT.  In this episode, you will learn what it takes to remain laser focus on your goals with tunnel-like vision and how your own belief system can help you get there.  We get honest about what it really takes to become an overnight success, and breakdown the critical steps in-between. You're about to see a side of Seth Rollins you have never before seen and it will INSPIRE, MOTIVATE and ACTIVATE you to ACHIEVE! Get to know the story behind the REAL Seth Rollins, inside the arena and out as he reveals what he would do if he lost it all today! This is an interview you don't want to miss! Everything in life is about the journey, so as Seth Rollins would say, "ENJOY IT."  

This is the Ed Marley Show. Welcome back to Max Out. Everybody, I am super excited about today's show because I have a WWE Superstar, the Universal Champion to my right. Colby Lopez, A.K.A. for most of you, Seth Rollins, is in the house, actually I'm in your house, sort of because we're at the WWE headquarters here in Los Angeles. Right here, this is nice.

First time I've ever been here, actually, hell of a VL. Is it your first time? First time in the LA offices, yeah. I've been here like 10 times, I'm really, I'm in my most bigger time, WWE than you are. It's your house,. It's my house. I'm visiting my own house.

Well, however that works. Little bit bizarre. Yeah. But speaking of your house, it's actually a really good segue to start out because I was researching you, you know, obviously millions of people know who you are, but I don't know that all of them know

like how you grew up, like literally the house you grew up in. Oh yeah, did you like Google Home or something? You find my little spot here in Buffalo, Iowa. Well, I did. Oh, really? But the other thing I figured out, I'm figuring out, it's interesting. Like when I interview people that do well,

I'm usually fascinated by their backstory. Because I think myself and others like, I want to know what creates this. Like a dude who's achieved what you've achieved. Because people that watch this, you know, they may not all come from perfect backgrounds or have the perfect situation. I mean, the perfect relationship, have the perfect financial situation happening.

You're upbringing wasn't perfect. Yeah. So talk a little bit about how you grew up and your dad's situation and all that. Well, yeah. So most people, I think, don't have it. You know, none of that perfect stuff, right? You know, I mean, everyone's got something going on. So I grew up in like a super small town in the middle of Iowa, like right on the Mississippi River, it's called Buffalo. There's literally maybe 800, 900 people population in there. And we are outside of the Quad Cities. And so it was,

you know, a little bit populated area there. But Deb Burt's or Buffalo was so small, I grew up like on a corner of the street. There's no stoplights, just stop signs, like we had a post office, they didn't deliver mail to the houses, none of that stuff. And my mom had me as a single mother in 86 and then she got married in 88 and that's when my dad adopted me. So you mentioned Colby Lopez. Lopez is an adopted name, so I'm not Hispanic, right? And not at all. Even though the dark feature some people confuse, you're Armenian not Hispanic, right? And not at all. Even though the dark feature some people confuse.

You're a Armenian. I'm a Armenian, right? Yeah, so my mom was living in Chicago. She ended up getting pregnant and not wanting to raise a kid. In Chicago, she was a waitress, so she came back to Iowa where she grew up. You know, kind of have her parents help out. And she met the boy across the street.

And yeah, so fell in love and got married. And then he adopted me. So he's the dude who raised me like my whole life. So Lopez is your dad? Mr. Lopez. Yeah, that's where I got the name. He's Ronald Lopez, hard work and half a spanic guy from Buffalo, Iowa.

I'm curious because I didn't, I don't think, see Andy, I asked this before. Do you know your birth father? No, never met him. Never met him, never had him reach out to me, anything like that, nothing so. She's your kid. We're going somewhere I didn't know we'd go,

but I'm just curious, is there a part of you who would want that or? So, I always asked questions as I was growing up with my mom and she was very forthcoming, like she never really had anything from me or kept anything. If I wanted to reach out out she probably would have helped. She might have had the information to get me there.

But it was something that I never felt like I was missing out. You know what I'm saying? So like my dad was an awesome dad. Coach my little league teams like taught me everything I know about being a man. Like hard work and cut the grass. You know, having a beer at the twilight. You know, he was a man's man. So I never felt like I was missing anything

from like a male role model perspective. I had an older brother too, as a few years older than me. And so between them, my uncles, my grandpa, like I was set as far as I was concerned. So like a little curiosity just to get like his side of the story, my biological dads, and also to know if there are any like brothers or sisters out there that I don't know about,

you know what I'm saying? And so just to know that your blood sort of like is just bouncing around somewhere and the suburb of the Chicago would be interesting to know like kind of where your family. And does he know what you've become? Yeah, I don't clue. So you have any idea?

Yeah. That's a pretty good story brother. Yeah. Millions and millions of people, you've become this like, you're becoming an icon. You're not just a superstar, like you're drifting to that icon status in your profession, you know?

It's weird, I don't feel like that. You know what? You don't? No, not at all. I still feel like the kid that grew up on fifth and Clark and Buffalo, I was like, I still feel like that kid that was like in his backyard with his friends, you know, play fighting and stuff like that.

How did you let's get a little bit through that I'm curious again like what makes you. So obviously I had a great mother and father that raised you. One of the things the first thing you notice about him by the way when you meet him is for somebody with such celebrity and the accolades and the attention it's your humility. You know immediately it's the Iowa boy in you. How do you get, did you always want this? Like, what you're doing right now was that your dream is a child to become this?

Yeah, I think in some form or fashion, I really love sports growing up. I love WWE. My dad and my grandpa took me to a live event. Oh man, when I was like four or something like that, took me and my brother to a live event when I was like four or something like that took me and my brother to a live event when I was four or five years old and I remember just being fascinated, you know what I mean?

Cause they're like live action superheroes, you know what I mean? Like Macho Man, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Legion of Doom, like these guys are out in their costumes and they're face painting, their music and they're ripping off their shirts and they're oiled, it's strong and tan and I'm like, you know, okay, I could love Spider-Man, which was cool, but like these guys are right there in living color, you know, these are real life superheroes. And so I was fascinated from an early age. I never really

thought about the idea of being a wrestler, just seems so out of, out of the realm of possibility because these guys were all human, right? Yeah. Six, six, three hundred pounds. And I'm just, you know, this little kid from Iowa, like, how am I gonna do that? So I drifted more into like baseball, right? Or like football, basketball, things, it seemed more tangible where I was like, I could compete with the kids at my elementary school and be really good.

So I was like, oh, maybe I could do this. Right. And then it was one of those things where, okay, then I started to get older, and I started to be a, you know be a bigger pond, so to speak. And you go to high school and now there's kids who are literally, right? Oh my god, I can't even shoot a bear, really. Well, I'm never going to do the game.

I'm going to be six foot one and that's at my best, you know? And so, luckily at the time in wrestling, it started to become a little bit more of a small man's game. So you started to see WWE superstars like Shawn Michaels, hit man hard, Mr. Perfect, who were just a little bit smaller in stature. They're moving around a little bit more, and it started to become like a reasonable possibility that, oh, okay, this, maybe this is the thing I could do.

And right when wrestling boomed, like, okay, this, maybe this is the thing I could do. And right when wrestling boomed in the attitude era, which was maybe 96, 97, 98, that's also when the internet started to blow up. And so it was like, you could take a video camera, you could do something on your trampoline, and you could put it on the internet, and you could see other people doing the same thing. And so there was a a weird community of like backyard wrestling that was starting to, yeah,

yeah, I started to blossom. And so like, I mean, my friends, we were all really into WWE at the time. And so we just started, you know, just the way you would be tom Brady and your backyard throwing a football. I wanted to be Mick Foley jumping off the top rope. So I did that in my backyard.

You know, however dangerous it may be, do not try it at home. It was a terrible idea. and we'd be mcfully jumping off the top rope. So I did that in my backyard. However dangerous it may be, do not try it at home. It was a terrible idea. I'm lucky I came out on Skade for the most part. But yeah, we just wanted to be our favorite wrestlers. And so we did that. We would cut up flyers and put on little shows

for our friends and family and stuff like that. You did? Yeah, man. Yeah, it was, man. Yeah. It was, it were your nuts. It's interesting, because the stories aren't like, like, you know that a natty was on my show. And she did that too.

Like she comes from a wrestling family, I was just always, much different. You just mentioned her uncle. But, but same thing, like she kind of grew up and started putting on these little shows. And was there a point like where you're like, okay, I'm going to go to a wrestling school or like, I'm good enough at this, someone noticed you? Yeah, so I wasn't, we started doing this stuff in the trampoline, and I was like 14 or so, and I remember the moment,

because I was in between eighth and ninth grade, so I was going to high school, and my parents wanted me to do, and I kinda did two, so I was still playing basketball at the time, and I was okay at it, and they wanted me to kinda of do the summer camp. You know, for basketball to get ready for like freshman year or whatever.

And I remember the moment like at the kitchen table and at this point I'm an angsty teen. My mom's gone through a couple of divorces at this point and like you know I'm just I hate everything, hate everyone. All I want to do is wrestle, leave me alone. I play video games and eat my chips and drink my soda. You know, that was my life. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I had a little wait set in the basement,

but I didn't have the focus just yet. So I remember the dinner. I remember sitting down for dinner, and having it in my mind that I was gonna tell my parents that I wasn't gonna do this basketball camp. And being like very afraid, how they were gonna respond. And I remember telling them, yeah, I don't going to do this basketball camp and being like very afraid how they were going to respond and I remember telling them, yeah, I don't want to do this camp. I think I want to be a wrestler when I get older. And like, you could see the disappointment in their faces. And I

remember like being, you know, just being so steadfast. No, this is what I was going to do. And so like, as disappointing as it was to, I knew that they were going to respond with. So like, as disappointing as it was to, I knew what they were gonna respond with. So like as disappointing as that was, I wasn't expecting them to be like, oh yay! Right. But that like, that put a chip on my shoulder right away. And so now I was gonna, I was gonna do it despite them, right? I was gonna work harder to spite them.

And so after that, I was just like, all right, I'm gonna be a wrestler. What do I gotta do to make this happen? And so then it was from then on, I was, you know, me and four of my friends, three or four of my friends, we were all gonna do it together. My brother was one of them, and we were like, okay, we're gonna, you know, do high school,

and then right when we're out, we're gonna go to wrestling school, we're gonna make it happen. And so that's kinda how it started. That's really where it started. I just think I've had, I've had, I don't know, 150 interviews, right? And all of the people that have been on my show have probably at one point gone to their

family, oh hey, here's what I want to be. I want to be a singer. I want to be a pro NBA basketball player. I want to be a wrestler. And obviously almost every single time it's met from the family with like, right? But what's interesting about how you said it, I don't know why I've never even thought about this before, but like, what do you expect them to say? Yeah.

You know what I mean? It's kind of what you would say. And so that's interesting that, all of you with this big dream, like, they're probably going to react that way. But what you did is you took that and put the chip on your shoulder rather than let it discourage you, because that is an outlandish thing

that you said you wanted to go do, right? Yeah, do you know what I'm literally, you got to understand, like I said, I grew up in a small town, 800 people. Right, I don't, I don't want to. 800 people. Right, I don't want to get out. I don't want to do anything. When talks about getting out, but everyone just ends up like their parents.

Yeah, I'm saying. And so, of course, it's a pipe dream. What's interesting, what's interesting though, is, and I want people to hear this too, I don't care if you're 80 years old, listen to this or you're eight years old. Somebody becomes this, right? Somebody's going to be the WWE Universal Champion.

Somebody's gonna play Major League Baseball. Somebody's going to be a millionaire in business. Why not that be you? Yeah. There's not a reason why it can't be you, even though it's gonna be met with this adversity and scoffing and they think you're crazy and all that. Why do you think though, and don't be humble in this?

Why would it end up being you and not your buddies or your brother? Oh man, there's so many layers to that, right? So I'd love to personally take credit and say, it's because I all worked them all, which is the truth. I did. But I think that work ethics stems from the contributions of so funny. I kind of go back to that dinner table conversation where I knew my parents would be disappointed.

At the end of the day, they're the reason that I had that conversation to begin with, because you know what I mean? They're the ones who instilled this mentality in me from an early age that I could be anything that I wanted to be. And so fast forward 14 years, and I've been told that and reinforced it,

like look, you're an amazing kid, you can do whatever you want, anything you set your mind to, you can accomplish it. So having that drilled into your head for years and years and years come to being 14, I say, well yeah, I can't do that. So I've got that already just drilled into my formative brain, you know, and so I believe that I can accomplish this. And then I have somebody telling me that I don't, when all I've ever known my whole life is that I can. So instead of that resistance being something that pushes me backwards, it's something that

empowers me. And so it's strange that it's coming from the same source, you know, my parents. But then you've got, you know, my friends just didn't, they were, you know, we had the same upbringing, but we all have different paths. And so, you know, their parenting situation or the way they grew up was just different enough. Just different enough to where once we get to that breaking point, like, where's the threshold, okay?

We get to this point and one drops off. Now, we get to the next point, the other gets married, okay? The one's too afraid to take the dive, you know? So it's just like, and the way my path was put in front of me, I was blessed with just this work ethic that my parents instilled in me from an early age. And- And-

And- No, man. Yeah. I never had a problem. I bet you everybody else had back, back, back, back of their mind to plan B. Yeah, there was always something or like, you know, like one of my friends, like his number one goal

in life was always to be like he wanted to be a dad, you know, and he wanted to be a husband and stuff like that. And so once he found the woman that he thought that was going to be with, like, that became his priority and wrestling just kind of drifted away. And for me, I never had any other aspirations. Like once I set my mind to that, that was all I ever wanted to be. And I never put, I put all my eggs in that basket. Yeah. It's interesting interesting you say this though, because you said two things there.

I wanted to go, I just want to tell you this too, but first thing you said, another thing no one said on my show before, which happened to me too. And I just want to acknowledge that you said it. I also had parents who like, you can be anything, you can be anything, you can be anything. But then when I actually went to be the anything,

they are like, I don't know. And so it's interesting that you can come from a family that done all those right things and instilled them in you. But even them when you actually eat to this day, like in my family, it's just a pattern. Like of all the things maybe I have or have an accomplished in business or life or whatever, to this day when my old man, I go,

hey, I'm thinking about doing this again. I don't know. It's like, to this day, it's still the same thing. So I wanna acknowledge that. And then the second thing that you have that every person has in common that's maxed out is like obsessive on one thing. Oh, obsessive.

Like literally obsessed. Like, I don't care if it's been a comedian's I've had on actors, politicians, business people. Like, there wasn't lots of other alternatives. You know what I mean? This was it. And to this day, you're obsessed with this, aren't you? Yeah, this is it for me, dude.

I've dedicated my entire life to it. And it's funny. I get questions all the time. Just in interviews randomly. People will ask the like, oh, what would you be doing? If you were in a WDM, I'd be a bum. Fortunately enough that I was putting the situation where I was given opportunities to succeed and get to this point,

because if I did, and I'd be on Venice Beach surf, and you know, that's so amazing. You say that. I just wouldn't, I don't know what I would do. People ask me that often about other, like kind of well-known friends of mine that do something like, what do you think you do? I'd be like, I'll be honest to you, man.

Nothing. Like, he's great at this, right? And those skills transfer the hard work and all that. But you say something. Yeah, so that's the funny thing is like, now when I'm 14, I decide this is what I wanna do and I put, I'm like, okay, how do I do this? So this was like the motivation to learn skills

that now carry over into different avenues in life. So this was like the starting point, right? That's the stake in the ground and then everything just branched out. So now, yeah, I can talk in front of people. Now I'm a bit of an athlete. Now I have this crazy work ethic and all that stuff. Now I can have conversations with 10,000 people

or one-on-ones like this. But that all started with this dream. Then I'll stay without this, that motivation. I might have just been the quiet shy kid that stayed in his room and listened to his head in the real poetry. And so who knows? That's so fascinating, because I'm not like two. a quiet shy kid that like, you know, stayed in his room and listened to his head in the real poetry, you know what I mean? So like, who knows?

That's so fascinating, because I'm not like too. By the way, you also gave hope to all you parents out there whose kids are playing video games and sucking down so does it the time because, look what this one turned into, right, so you never know. I wanna ask you something, I haven't asked someone before. What is it like, try to describe, everyone listening to this, if they listen to my stuff

or watch my stuff, they have a dream of some type. Right? I haven't asked anybody this before. I don't know why. Oh, all right. What's it like stepping into an act? What's it feel like to be doing your dream?

Like you're in it. Was it what it was cracked up to be? Is it surreal? Do you still wonder whether you belong? What's it feel like? Maybe it doesn't even feel like you're doing it yet. I don't know, but you're in your dream, man. Like, I can see you thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that like? So, when you have this goal in mind, right? When you have this one dream in mind, I think everything sort of gets linear, right? You put these blinders on and you focus

and you have this idea of what it's gonna feel like when you get to that endpoint, okay? And then you get to that endpoint and you look around and it doesn't feel like anything, right? It just feels like life. And so like one of the things that I really realized, especially in the last couple of years because I've been so fortunate to really hit

a lot of my own personal goals. One thing that I've realized more than anything is that the end point is not what's important. The journey is the important part, and it never ends. So, understanding that stopping to smell the roses, yes, but just understanding that struggle that having to overcome those obstacles, like doing all that stuff is such a cool part of what it's like to be human, and that human experience. And so like, yeah, it's great to have a goal you got to.

I think part of what sets us apart from other mammals is the ability to set these goals, and to have this awareness to want to accomplish things in life and stuff like that. But we get so fixated on what it's going to feel like when we reach the finish line, when we get there and we look around and we go through that ribbon, we're like, wait, wait, there's still so much more to do. There's still so much more life to live. And so then it becomes readily apparent that like, it was never about getting to that endpoint. It was about all the steps that took to get there and beyond. And so it's hard to really put into words what it's like to live in that dream.

At the same time, it's amazing. I've been able to do things through this and through pursuing this dream that I never would have imagined to be able to take those experiences back, share them with my family, share them with my friends, share them with my friends, share them with my students at my wrestling school who are embarking upon the same journey to an extent. That is invaluable and I will never take for granted. But like it's the steps along the way, it's not the end point, it's not the actual dream, it's like pursuing the dream that's really the most important part. That's one of the most articulate and true statements

I've heard doing this, because that's how I feel. And did I just give me weirdly emotional almost? Because it's the truest answer to what it's like when you step into it. Are you afraid you're gonna lose it? Yeah, yeah, there is a lot of fear that it'll go away. But I've also been like, I don't know,

kind of this awareness lately that like, if it did go away, I wouldn't really regret anything or I wouldn't be disappointed and I wouldn't panic. I feel like for whatever reason it disappeared tomorrow, like I've done all right, you know what I mean? I'm pretty satisfied with the things that I've accomplished and whatever's ahead, like it's all icing on the cake at this point for me.

So I'm just looking forward to the next stage of my life. Really good. I think that it stays with guys who keep their humility, keep working on themselves, stretching their identity. You know, what you never want to have happen is that your results exceed your identity, like what you think you're worth, right? Like a big believer in that. As long as you keep grinding, you keep pushing, you keep stretching, who you think you are, what you think you're worth, right? Like a big believer in that. As long as you keep grinding, you keep pushing, you keep stretching, who you think you are,

what you think you're worth, then the results will always be trailing that. It's when you will result start to exceed that stuff and you cool it, that you've made it. I don't see any of that on you at all. So I think you're in good shape. But question, a couple of things, because I wanna talk about, you've actually expanded life

a little bit. Now I know what it's like to have that laser focus then. When you do get to, you can have life. One of the cool things about your life that I know people are going to want to know, especially WWE fans, will want to know if I don't ask you, but you've become part of like a power couple. Right? That's probably something you never thought was going to happen either.

So tell me, if I don't ask you this, like what's the deal with you and Becky Lynch? Oh, we're just crazy in love. Which is a nice little, you know, again, it starts here. If I don't have this dream, I don't ever meet her and we never get to this point. So yeah, dude, it's awesome. She's like the perfect partner for me. And the thing is, you know, I never dated inside the industry.

It was always, because I was afraid. I was like, I don't want to date girls who do the same thing as me. Maybe we'll be too close, we'll have too much in common. And I always sort of dated girls that were wrong for me. Like, I had this idea of what I thought I wanted. Like, you have this kind of character of yourself in your mind, right? This person that you are and you imagine with this person that you're, you know, in your mind, right? This person that you are and you imagine with this person that you're you know supposed to be with what they look like and what you want. But what I've never realized and I had a conversation with a friend about this is like what I want and what I needed were not the same thing. They were not the same thing. They were not aligned. And you don't really know that

I don't think until you meet the person who is all the things you need and more. And so, you know, Becky and I had been friends for four or five years or so. Just really good friends, like, hit it off, like, from the first conversation. I remember the first conversation I ever had with her. She was, I had to play the food in my hand and I would set hide or whatever and we introduced and I was just, this was, like I I said four years ago and I'm like, what's your story? Because being a guy who takes pride in our company here and I want to have good people

involved, you know what I'm saying? I fancy myself a bit of a leader of our locker room and I just don't want to have a crew that is sketchy. You know what I mean? I want to have good human beings on board. And so I make a habit of finding out about people. There's one another story. So tell me what's your deal is.

So our first conversation was that question and then her just giving me 45 minutes of her whole story. And I found myself, eating my food is asking all these questions about her. And we were just connected from then on. And it was one of those things where we both were just kind of doing other things and the relationship here, relationship there

and we finally, it just sort of came together earlier this year and it's been for me the happiest I've ever been. Just wonderful. So, dude, she adds so much to my life and hopefully I add a little bit to hers but she makes me want to be a better person every single day. And I think I admire her, I respect her, and I just think she's so talented as a performer, but also she's just awesome human being. And like when I watch the way she deals with other people, I'm like, damn, I need to be like that.

I need to do, I need to figure out how to be like that because she's so, so incredible. It's one of them, man. The difference, the distinction of what you want versus what you need is really, really something. I need to process too, is I teach on some of these things. Tonight, ironically, everybody, even though you won't see it at this time, tonight's the Espees moment recording Espees.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're actually going with her. She's, she's part of one of the nominated categories, right? Yeah, tonight's the first time, well, WWE has its own award at the SB's, which is awesome for our industry. And she's nominated. She's the first woman in main event, WrestleMania.

And it's 35 years. And so again, it's one more thing to admire about her. She's really a trailblazer. And so I'll be there tonight supporting her. And it's gonna be a tough one, because she's up against some really cool nominees, Roman Reigns, for him coming back from leukemia, which is incredible. Kofi King's then at WrestleMania, a huge moment for him, and really minorities were all wide in the sports industry and just in the world. And then Ronda Rousey kind of paving

the way as well. So it's a great company. Tons of awesome moments and they've affected just all these different parts of the world because that's sort of what wrestling does. And so, really proud of her to be in that company, whether she wins or loses, it's gonna be great. I'm sure she's proud of you too. And we haven't really got a chance to talk about this, so I'm talking about this.

I mean, at the center of all this is you're great at what you do. And you've become this just revered person in the company. I love the WWE and that's why I've had so many people from the company on my show including Steph because I know the inherent goodness in the company. I know the difference it made. I've been a fan since I was a child as well. And then I got to tell you the more and more I meet people that are part of the company, the more I love it more. I've just met nothing but wonderful people like you that are associated with the company. And I love it.

I wanna know what you love about being in it. What do you love about, because the skill sets unreal, we're talking off camera, you guys, you're talking about some of the, I mean, world class athletes combined with unbelievable performance skills and people's skills.

But what do you love about it? Do you love the rush of walking it in front of 30,000 or what are the elements you love about it? I got a loaded question again, because there's so many things, right? Like, I've always loved the performance aspect of professional wrestling. And just like the way it brings together this, like, it's this cool amalgamation of like all these different forms of entertainment, right? You've got like this kind of like television style storytelling, makes with like live action

theater, and then you've got like kind of stunt work involved and then there's such a like an underlying bit of psychology when it comes to like reading an audience that I don't think people fully grasp and like that's kind of what separates the good from the best. What do you mean by that? Well you know it's it's it's simple storytelling right you've got like an antagonist you've got a protagonist you've got some sort of conflict and resolution. But like how you tell that story is your art, right? How you do that is your art,

and that's what we get to do is artists, and that's kind of what we take pride in. The most, as far as like the performance aspect is concerned, is just being able to do that and take this crowd on this roller coaster ride with a match, with a series of of matches with an entire story that spans months and so or just a character or just this authenticity that you can bring to a television screen or a live audience and so there's a psychology involved with understanding what people are going to react to,

what they're going to care about, what they're not gonna care about, and how that all works together is really a cool part of our industry. Can I say something about you on that? Yeah. Surprise me what you just said. I want everyone just to picture this because a lot of you are in business, and so you have multiple ways you present, too.

You could be in a boardroom, you could be on the phone. It could be one-on-one, right? There's multiple dimensions to being influential, to being able to transfer energy, right? This isn't an opportunity in the company, but I've noticed, because I've been to live events and TV, one of the most unique things is what you just said. Imagine everybody that if you were an actor, you're performing a play in front of a live crowd, that is also being broadcast on television. That's a very difficult dynamic to trend both those places.

Stage performance, just so you all know, is that really over the top thing that often doesn't play on TV. That's why very few TV and movie actors are actually good on stage. The best people in your company do both. And I've been to live events. What I notice about you,

and I will say, am I opinion above everybody that I've watched that's in the current crop of stars is your ability to energize the live room and the TV at the same time. I know you wouldn't say this. There's some people do a great job on TV but it doesn't translate to the room. How do you conch setters? That's just a giftedness of something. So I think that the way I came through So I think that the way I came through the independent scene, kind of having to make it on my own. So on the independent scene, you get so much practice in small rooms, right?

And I'm talking small. I'm talking I've wrestled in front of eight people at a bingo hall, you know what I'm saying? And you have to engage these eight people because they paid for a ticket. They want to be entertained. They're not expecting you to go halfway. They want the whole thing.

And so if you can engage a small room of 15 people, whether it be kids or adults and get them involved in your match, then when you start to add and you get into hundreds and then into the thousands, that part becomes easy. But learning how to do that, knowing your audience, no matter where you go, whether you're at a state fair in Kentucky or you're at a bingo hall in Philadelphia, where it's 18 to 35 year old drunk men as opposed to families and, you know, southerners in Georgia, you have to know your audience, you have

to know what to give them, know what they want, know when they want it. And so I cut my teeth and independence learning how to do that. And so I already had that skill set when I came to WWE. And so then when I got to WWE, it was about learning how to translate that to being on television. So that was a whole new skill set that I had to learn. And so I spent three years in our developmental system, the NXT, FCW, down in Florida learning how to do that. And then when you get to the main roster of WWE,

now you got to put both of those things together. Because we're doing live events 100 times plus a year for me, and then the television on top of that. And so having the ability to kind of meld those two art forms is certainly something that not everybody is versed at. You're excellent at that. Everybody, how does this translate to you? Many of you are one dimensional in your business.

You're just good one-on-one. You're just good on the phone. You're just good on a stage. The best people of influence, or you're just good with a particular type of person. You're just good with women. You're just good with men. You're just good with people particular type of person. You're just good with women. You're just good with men. You're just good with people who speak in particular language.

The best people at anything, the world class, the max out, they're good at multiple ways of transferring energy to people and communicating, which is what I wanted to ask you about. I want to talk about being an elite performer. So this is just WWE, you're elite in this. Most people think they work hard. Okay?

Yeah. So usually by the way, the hardest workers don't think they do. In other words, they always think there's a little more room there, right? Yeah. But you and I both have friends in different businesses, including your own business, you're not going to name them, I'm not going to name them a minor, like constantly telling you how hard they're working, right? Yeah. And I think most people don't really know the extent of what the grind looks like for the

best of the best people in the world. And so, I always like when someone likes yous here, because I can tell from meeting you, you got here through what you said earlier. You just freaking out worked everybody. You just relentless, right? And when you get to the top everyone, it's even another level where most people don't stay on top as they get to the top and they go,

it's not the journey, it's this destination. Ah, yeah. I'm just gonna let off about 8%. Not all of it, I'm not like eating Cheetos on the couch all day, but 8%. Just like, give me an example, like even today, what's, I know how difficult it was for you and I even to connect today.

Yeah. I mean, talk about what today's like for you a normal day, just the amount of what the grind looks like to win at something. It just depends, man, because our schedule is so intense. Like, we do, I wrestle just outright, probably when I'm super healthy healthy when I have no injuries. If I'm all healthy, I will wrestle close to 170 matches a year. So that's on the road four days a week, every single week.

Now mind you, I live in Iowa. So I've got to take flights Friday morning at 6am. Sometimes earlier, connecting. You're connecting everywhere, the bar. Connecting everywhere. Get to a small town on Friday. Got to get in a workout because if I get on a plane and I sit there, you know, for a few hours, I'm like this. So I got to get to a gym.

I got to move around. Then I got to go work. Then we got to get in a car and drive four hours to the next town. Try to get a little bit of sleep. Hope there's no media in the morning the next town. Try to get a little bit of sleep. Hope there's no media in the morning the next day. Then get up, do it all over again, work out, wrestle, and the toll that takes on your body. Then get in the car, cram yourself in, drive another four or five hours to the next town. So you do that all weekend. Then you get to TV, you have a 12-hour day on Monday. Plus you have phone interviews,

you got to promote the live events for the next weekend, you've got backstage stuff that you've got to film ahead of time, you've got to, now you get your story for the Monday, which by the way, we don't get that stuff ahead of time. We get it Monday because we got to tape live TV every Monday and it changes depending on who's hurt, who's healthy, how ratings were the week before, what people are into, what they're not, what the story is. So we get that Monday, it's not like we're getting

these promos to memorize weeks in advance, like you do in a movie, you can, you know, you can read your lines. Now, we get this, we get one take to go out there. Whoa. One take to go out there, not suck. Whoa. Yeah, when it comes to the match, when it comes to the promo, when it comes to the backstage stuff, it's all live every single Monday.

And that's if we didn't have a pay-per-view on Sunday mind you. That's another 12-hour day at the arena. Then another drive at night. And then on Tuesday, if I'm lucky, I'll fly home. Maybe, or this week, fly to LA. Got humanitarian awards last night, but I had a Mattel commercial that I had to shoot earlier in the day. So I'm on set again for another six hours. Luckily I got out a little early because Mattel people think we can't read our lines. But yeah I'm used to it. A couple takes and I'm out but then oh I have a couple extra hours in the day. What will I do? Go to the gym. Of course. Gotta get in there, get that done because I got to

stay in shape. So then go to the humanitarian awards. Then again this morning got to work out before I come in here. Do this interview. Then we're going to the SPs tonight. Then tomorrow luckily, have one day off and that's only because our appearance got canceled, but then I'll have a red eye flight to Augusta, Maine, which is legit all the way across the country, and so, and then we'll do it all over again. And that is with no offseason. That is year-round, not including international tours, trips to Saudi Arabia, Australia, South America, Japan. We just got back from Singapore and Japan for a few days. So it's in the legit

nonstop all the time. And on top of that, I have a wrestling school that I run back in Iowa. So when I am home, they're not days off. They're days that I'm at the gym, at the school, teaching the future of the business, how to do what I do, and hopefully making, you know, like leaving good hands when I can't do it anymore. Unreal, brother. So now how hard are you all working? Right, right? Like that's, that's, and if, and by the way,

if I had a seven figure earning CEO in here, the details would be different, but the pace and the repetition to be great at anything is what this requires, right? So I want people to hear this because you make it look easy, you are humble, and yet that's incredible what you end up doing. So what I see when someone does that, I want to go a little deeper. You got to have unbelievable habits and rituals to do that. Like what I just did a video on this today. Like I've had this week where I'm not like up. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I'm just not up. You know what I mean? I'm just not up. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

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You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? things that are non-negotiable habits of my what are some of yours? Yeah, so the gym's the one for me. Like that's it for me. Like if I that that's my peace of mind because you can really you're forced if you want to have an effective workout right you got to like compartmentalize. So a friend of mine Jason Calipa who who is also me discuss him a little bit. He's got this thing called Amrap mentality where if you're a cross for a guy, amrap is as many reps as possible. It forces you in a workout, so say as many reps as possible in 12 minutes of five pull-ups and 12 squats, right?

So you have 12 minutes to get the most work done, but not just like blow yourself up sky high. You've got to be efficient about it. You've got to understand, so he tries to apply this to other portions of his life and it's certainly something that I've taken in because when you're at the gym you cannot have an effective workout. If you're on your phone, if you're doing all this other stuff, if you're talking, yeah, you have to, you've got this hour sometimes less to get this done. And so it's my safe place. It's, I get to zone out and focus entirely on the fitness.

And just how that feels. And so it's almost like just tear myself down with a gnarly workout to get me to a point where I'm just like, all right. It's almost meditation. It's almost meditation. Yeah, it's as meditative as I get. Yeah, is it am rap?

Is that how you call it? Yeah, am rap mentality. Yeah, mine started with max out Is that what you call it? Yeah, Amrap mentality. Yeah, mine started with max out. And one of the reasons was that same principle, tell you how it happened for me, just for everyone to have a little peek in here, is I was at the gym, this dude is when I was bigger. This dude had these huge traps.

Like, I'm like, he was at gym, I just workout and leave, right? Like I'm not there to, you know. What do you do? And I, I mean, I hadn't done this in like 10 years I've been at gym for like 25 years, I walk over to this guy like an idiot. And I'm like, how do you get such big traps?

Like you know how? Like that's a dweeb at the gym. You know, I was pretty jacked at the, you know, the dime. And he looks at me and he goes, yeah man, I just train him, you know, but I said to him, I said so how many, how many reps do you do per set? And I'll never forget this day where they shoot traps and they do, he looked at me like,

until I can't do it anymore. In other words, like, and I'm like, this guy do six sets of eight. And this is like, that's so stupid, like doom to fatigue, like doom to a you can't. And that's a, that's been a principle I've transferred over into every area of my life. It's like how many phone calls I'm gonna make today?

As many as I physically freaking can, right? And so, anyway, that transferred over for me. So I love love love love that you said that so if you were to advise somebody who's out there They've got a dream. Mm-hmm. Do like hey man. I want to make my business happen my life happened my art work happen my music career happened My relationship happened. What would you read just general advice me if someone ran into you at a Starbucks and said can I get three minutes? Which would be difficult to get? What would you say to them? Man, so the one thing and this is sort of counterintuitive to what You know this kind of go-go-go mentality that I gave you but one thing

I think people need to understand is that it just does not happen overnight like it just doesn't you. You're looking at success is a product of time. So I always tell them you have to outwork everyone in the room, first of all, and you have to be patient. Because again, you want to get things going, you want to get them going, and I fully endorse that. I figure out a way to take this idea and put it into action. But it's

not just going to go from zero to a hundred immediately. You're just not going to be an overnight success. Every overnight success story is years in the making. So understanding that you do have to be patient when it comes to waiting for that feeling of success or that waiting for that feeling of success or that feeling of fulfillment. So those two things are huge keys and also having one end goal is great, but also setting incremental goals along the way. Because sometimes, and I've seen this in friends of mine, they'll have this one lofty goal which I fully approve of.

I say, shoot for the moon. You know what I'm saying? Put yourself in a place where you can't even, you don't even think you're ever going to get there. But also have attainable goals along the way because if this is the only thing that you can see, you're always going to feel like you're coming up short. And so you, yes, you want to feel like there's always more work to be done, but give yourself a pat on the back every once in a while because life's hard. Don't make it harder than it's got to be. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not easy for everybody.

So, patients, hard work, and set some incremental goals along with that big, big end goal for yourself. Really, really good, brother. I'm enjoying this so much today. Like, it's flying by, like, flying by. I didn't know we were gonna be able to get in all these things. I'm gonna give you a general question to finish. By the way, I like your social media.

Oh, thanks. So, where can they find you? Let's make sure that everybody here can find you if they choose to. Yeah, Instagram, Twitter, at WWB Rollins. We got some stuff going on. You can look at my wrestling school, is that black and brave wrestling, or have an online fitness community with dead boys fitness as well. So you can check all that stuff out.

But my official stuff with the blue check mark is at WWRONGs on Twitter. It's good stuff too, by the way. Last question. Didn't know I was going to ask you this, but I'm just observing you and There's a compliment. I don't mean this. It's gonna sound like a backwards compliment. There's I'm I'm Impressed with how much depth there is to you. Oh, thank you. I Impress with how much depth there is to you. Oh, thank you. I knew you were talented, I knew you were gifted, I knew from watching you that you were a grinder. This dude's a worker, but there's a lot of depth there.

And so what I root for for you is that you're happy. You know what I mean? You can get to the top of something in life and achieve everything. Yeah. But the ultimate measurement is happiness. So I'm just curious, this is just happening to do it's talking. Are you happy and do you know what makes you happy if you need more of it?

Oh man. So the second one, I'll start backwards a little bit. So I don't know what makes me happy all the time. I don't know what makes me happy all the time. I don't know what it is, and I will forego happiness a lot of the time for the sake of progress when it comes to my career. With that being said, yes, I am happy. I feel very content, and I think a lot of it has to do with, and we talked about it a little bit earlier. And it's a bit of a cliche,

but honestly, it hit me really hard early this year when I fell in love with Becky. Like that personal connection that I had with her, I was at a point in my life where I felt like something was missing, there was some sort of fulfillment that I wasn't getting. I had breached the point where I accomplished a lot of my goals and I realized that the journey was, you know, a big part of that as opposed to just being in this in place.

But I felt like there was this connection that I was missing and I didn't know if I was ever going to get it. To the point where I had like seriously considered writing off monogamy as a whole, I was like, maybe it's just not for me. Maybe this is my mistress and that's all it's ever gonna be. And then, her and I kind of connected on a really deeper level and I started to look forward to the second half of my life more. I started to realize that, as cliche as it sounds again, it wasn't necessarily all these relationships for nonsense until

I met the right one. And all these things that I thought that I never really was interested in like being married, being a husband, having kids started to feel like options for me in the future. And then I started looking again to the second half of my life and say, okay, you know, I'm not going to be able to do this forever. But that's something that I can look forward to and being able to share that with someone that you care about so much puts me in a pretty good place mentally. So to be able to have this, to have that, you know, I'm fortunate that my friends and family are healthy and taking care of and in a good place. And so I really cannot ask for much more out of life right now

as a 33 year old me. Pretty cool, man. Yeah, it really is. Colby, I like you. Well, thanks, man. I like you. I'm rooting for you. Well, there's anything I can ever do for you.

Ah, I'm here to help. Well, thank you. And I know the fans love Seth Rollins, but I really like this Colby guy, a whole lot. He ain't bad. I enjoyed this today, brother. I know millions of people did as well, so thank you so much. Thank you for having me.

There was a great chat, I appreciate it. It was really cool, man. I'm sure it will be our last. So everybody, if you enjoyed this today, don't forget on Instagram every day, the max out two minute drill, when I make a post of my main feed every day, because we want to engage with you.

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