THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Victory in Suffering - With David Goggins

Episode Date: July 30, 2019

What does the TOUGHEST MAN ALIVE have to say about suffering?   You have been asking to see David and me together, and that day has finally arrived! This interview is intense and we dig very deep into a variety of topics. It’s even better than you probably can imagine! (Very strong and adult language warning!) David Goggins, author of best-selling book Can't Hurt Me - is the only member of the U.S. Armed forces to complete Seal Training (including 3 hell weeks), the U.S. Army Ranger School and Air Force Tactical Air Controller Training. He is the EPITOME of pushing the limits! There wasn’t just one breakthrough that course-corrected Goggins’s life forever, but in this episode, we take a deep dive into the accumulation of moments that ended up cultivating the mindset needed to become the toughest man alive! Accountability is everything. What are you telling yourself in the mirror every day? Are you living up to your full potential? Quitting is a choice. Taking the path of least resistance is a choice. But you can never lie to yourself, you always know when you aren’t being the person you know you can be and there’s only ONE thing that’s getting in between you and the YOU that you know you can be… MINDSET! This episode will teach you how to go down into the dungeon and fight the war with yourself. You’ll learn how to make it all the way to the finish line even when you feel as if you can’t go any further. It’s time to close the gap between just being “inspired” to actually ACCOMPLISHING your biggest dreams. Goggins reveals how you can use your suffering as a catalyst instead of an excuse to stop! What if all of your sufferings were a clear sign of you becoming stronger because you are forcing yourself to endure what you thought you never could? This interview will CHANGE the way you look at suffering, give it a listen. I know it’s going to pump you up, just like it pumped me up!  

This is the Ed Miley Show. Everybody, I'm excited to share today's conversation with David Goggins with you, but prior to doing that, I want to warn you. The language used in this interview is very strong and there's profanity used throughout the conversation. David speaks in this interview like David speaks and there's profanity used throughout the conversation David speaks in this interview like David speaks and so if you have children that you don't want to hear very intense language This would not be the interview for you to listen to or watch and you can make sure that they're out of the room Or anywhere around you and they're listening to it or if you yourself are offended by strong language like that I just want to warn you as a friend that maybe this isn't the interview for you.

If you can tolerate it or it doesn't bother you at all, it's going to change your life, though. Welcome back to max out everybody. I got him right there. That's Goggins everyone. Number one requested guest, you don't know this, for my show the last two years is you. Really? Yeah, yeah, really.

Honored. Honored. And I gotta tell you, the best by far off camera conversation I have ever had is what we've been having. I think you would agree. It's been good for you too. It's been good for both of us. It's been real good.

And hopefully that'll transition over to the show itself. But this is a gentleman who completed Navy SEAL training, Army Ranger training, Air Force Tag P training. I believe he's the only person in history to do that. This is a guy who did three hell weeks, 60 plus ultra marathons. Well, I'll run with broken bones for 30 miles to get into one of the mega ultra marathon. And a lot of people call him the toughest man alive, but I'm excited because I get to call him my friend now.

I've enjoyed this conversation so much and I think you guys are going to join the on camera one. So this is Goggins everybody. I appreciate you having me man, thank you. Thank you. Okay, if I call you David Goggins. That's fine man, David Goggins is fine. Goggins, David, just don't call me Dave. Okay, well you, your Goggins now, but you grew up David Goggins.

Right. And I, most people know this about your upbringing because I want to get into this stuff. But I was fascinated before I met you, like what makes this? You know what I'm saying? What are the circumstances, the conditions, the thinking that turned somebody into you, right? And so start a little bit with like how you grew up,

because I think that's part of the story. Well, my dad, so I grew up in Buffalo, New York. My dad really helped create this. I'm not giving him credit. Like, oh, he was a great dad, like clapped my hands for his ass. He helped create this because he was just that, he was a devil.

You know, he was a guy that had to be very insecure, very beat down. Something had happened to him when he was younger because the way he treated me, my brother, my mom was just horrible. So he would beat us, my mom, my brother, my me. And I'm not talking like, oh, you got in trouble. So, let me give you a whipping. When he was a drunk. So whenever he woke up, man, he woke up drinking, went to bed drinking. And that's as hard as it was. And he'd get drunk. He just got violent.

So my mom caught my dad cheating. We got home about four o'clock in the morning. So I'm about seven, eight years old and I hear some ruckus outside my room as I'm getting ready to bed down for the night and my mom and dad are all inside my room because there's a staircase right there and my dad is smacking the hell on my mom and knocks her almost unconscious where she's kind of out of it you know she's kind of loopy she falls down he grabs you by her hair and drags you down stairs by her hair and so at this age I'm sure to think a man you know what the fuck should I do man like you know I'm scared but then something in me saying you got to go and Like, you know, I'm scared, but then something made me say, and you gotta go and do something.

Oh my God. But I'm scared of death of this guy. He'd been beating a shit out of me since I can remember. And I mean, like, lay me out for nothing. And I'm just gonna take a man, okay, man. Like, when I go to do some of my brother, he and I were very different.

When my brother would see the fighting, he would go to this room and hide. I didn't do that. I always stuck around. So this time I stuck around and I decided to help her out. So I go on the stairs and I jump on his back and literally, he tells my mom, you're raising a gangster, as she's like on the floor.

And he's almost smiling, almost like proud, but that smile went to a frown pretty quick and he beat the living hell out of me. And he beat me literally from my neck down to my ankles, like black and blue. So next morning, I was at a good old school half today. My mom woke up and she pulled the covers back. And when she saw, was how bruised I was. And so when she pulled the covers back,

she saw bruised I was, I'll never forget looking at her face because she used to write letters for me, you know, for me, my brother to miss PE because we were so bruised up from getting beaten. So, you know, how he sick or whatever. And so, you know, she was lying a lot for my dad. So this particular day, she didn't write a letter. But when I laid in the bed

looked at my mom and she put the covers back I never forget looking at her face. And her face is tattooed in my brain and while I say that this past year I got the VFW award for Americanism award. And if you Google David Goggins VFW award I'm in front of 5,000 veterans. And I'm getting this amazing award. John McCain got it. And I'm a freaking man, I'm a freaking this award. This is amazing. It's forgiven back and also having a great military career.

And I can give this six minute long speech. And I'm up there, man. I'm talking and I'm thinking. I'm thinking people who helped me out. Now, I get to my mom. She's sitting back, you know, she's sitting right here on stage, but behind me and I haven't cried in 30 years. I came a picture. I haven't cried in 30. I don't do that. And I turn around and say and I want to Thank my mom for

Not picking me up when I was knocked down, but teaching me how to get up because she never picked me up ever and because her So it was dance is sucked. Yeah, so anyway anyway I look back and I said that and I got done I didn't get chances to say it. I looked at her eyes and my head went right back to her face when she saw me bruised up and that fucked me up and for 58 seconds. Look at the video and you'll see me my head's down And I'm sobbing wow and I'm in front of 5,000 vets and the guy who was who was hosting the thing had to come up to me And like put his hand on my back and I was just destroyed Overcoming the motion and then

58 seconds go by and I get up and I deliver the speech. And so I tell you that because life, my life tattooed me. And so when I came from Buffalo, I was eight years old, several learned, I didn't have one learned disability. I had several, but I hit all this shit. I never talked about my dad being crazy or I couldn't read, I couldn't write. I got hell back in my second grade.

So now we move, my mom now finds the courage to move to the small town called Brazini and I. Was that beating the catalyst that made you leave? That was a catalyst. And that's probably why you flashed back to that. Okay, I gotcha. So basically that next morning, so this will happen, that beating happened,

and maybe two days later, my mom's in the living room, what my dad's in the kitchen talking to one of his girls. My mom walks in the kitchen with me, my brother sitting in our, you know, standard locations at the table. My dad in the head of the table, me, my brother's side of the table. And there's a phone behind my dad. He's always talking the phone, smoking cigarette, drinking a scotch.

And he's talking to one of his girls on the phone. And my mom walks in, and this is where she was at mentally. She walked in looking at me, my brother. And she said, you guys can come, or you guys can stay, but I'm getting the fuck out of here. And so she was broke, like she was just broken. And I got my shit and I packed, I was gone quick. My brother was kind of like what should I do so long story short he's up come with

us to brazilianna but he didn't want to come we had car troubles on the book yeah car trouble all kind of should have but we finally get to brazilianna let me jump in real quick first off when he says the book everybody I've read a lot of books my favorite thing about you obviously there's this things we're to get into in a little bit here that are just remarkable about you, that you've achieved. Actually, I don't think it's remarkable about you. I think you found remarkable spaces in your own mind that other people could also find. But I think it's remarkable you found them given these circumstances. But the book that he's referring to guys is can't hurt me. And when you read this book, everybody, I'm telling you,

these stories like he's telling them now, they jump. Like, I read the whole book in one day. Wow. And the reason is, is because I was so fascinated with you in the first place. But it's, I think it's almost like a documentary into what can build somebody like you. But it like, for me, people that are listening to this,

especially you young people that are listening to it, and I know some of the language is strong, but I just want you all to understand something. No matter what you're going through right now, whether you're seven years old or 77 years old, those things don't define you. This man, what you're about to hear is incredible what he's turned himself into from a dad

who was in those conditions, so I think your mom was great, right? But you've sort of said, mom wasn't ever again completely herself after those situations, right? Then he goes into school, has a learning disabilities behind because he wasn't going to school.

Kinda starts his lying and cheating to get his way through school. Stuttered. Stuttered, stuttered, stuttered, bad. Like Mike, my elementary years, I started so bad, I had these white splotches. All of them are going to have patches of hair falling on my head.

Out of excess? Stress. I was so stressed out for my childhood. And then now, I'm in this situation where I'm like, God, man, I'm dumb. I'm not smart. And now, I'm like this black kid amongst all these white people. And it just made me feel just fucked up.

And my mom was working three jobs. We lived in a $-dollar month place. She was never home, and I was like, so, but I didn't want to put my troubles on my mom. Before that, my, soon to be stepped, I got murdered. One instant that really shocked my mind was, it was Christmas. So picture everything I talked about. This is my seventh grade year. We're about to go out for, you know, so school,

so Christmas breaks about to happen. And so, here we are. We had elementary to junior high that wrote our bus. And we pulled up in front of the junior high school. And the bus lets out. But not yet. This kid who missed the bus, he missed the bus because he had some cookies for the bus driver.

He goes over and I tell a story because this story it fucked me up so bad. And this kid mom brought him to school and I see them pull up. I'm in the back of the bus. And I'm in the very back right by the back wheel facing the parking lot. The parking lot is probably 20 feet wide and 15 buss are lined up and we all open the bus doors the same time we all get out. So the kid, I see him, the mom yells over, you forgot something, he obviously forgot the cookies. He goes back, gets the cookies. I look forward, the bus moves forward maybe this much.

Next thing I know, I'm hearing this lady screaming top for lungs pulling like at her hair this yanking at her hair this screaming bloody murder and I'm looking over the same lady that called a little boy and like what the hell and she's looking down under my tire and so I see these things on my window and I know what they were but they were like little spots so you know how the old bus school you know the buses have little things you push in you pulling them down. I push them in and look down looking at her and her face her eyes looking right down underneath my tire. Now I'm like what the hell is she looking at. So I look down and this kid's head was this flat and his eyes were bugged out of his

head and and I tell you that story because a year, almost exactly a year, the same exact timeframe, the day after Christmas, my mom's gonna be stepped, my mom's gonna be stepped out, got murdered. Oh my God. So that, I try to bury that, and now my eighth grade year, he gets murdered. And so what happens, I had to bring you back here

to set the tone for what happened here. I want to understand what the hell you just said. You're telling me in the seventh grade you watched a young man get run over by the bus. I didn't see it. I saw the after. You saw the after of his. Oh my. And so what I did. So I got off the bus and this is what curiosity does to you.

This is the dumbest thing I've done in my life. I'm walking now. So I have to go to the principal's office because I was like witness to this shit. Some of the principal's office sitting there and the one thing I did was I looked under the bus. As I saw this and I look under the bus as I'm walking to the principal's office and I see these little kids shoes. I'm telling you this because this shit is, it's about PTSD and you know so I already had it from my childhood. Now I'm telling you this because this shit is, it's about PTSD and you know, so I already had it for my childhood. Now I'm in seventh grade and I see these little kids

shoes like this big. He was elementary kid. Just twisted in and I'm just like what the fuck in the nearly a year later, the day after Christmas, a year later my soon to be stepped out gets murdered. And I take that because I slept on my floor for probably, I don't know, four months to six months. Why? I was afraid to sleep in my bed for some reason. Don't know why. Some psychological fucking, like, but I'm painting this picture for you,

let you know where I was at. Yeah. But I'm painting this picture for you. Let you know where I was at. Yeah, so One time my in my Spanish class We had all of our notebooks that that stayed in the class So and you know obviously your name's on it. Yeah, you go get your notebook for a class I always set back in the back of every class man because I just want to be yeah, don't look at me. Don't call on me Yeah, I know shit Oh, my notebook up to the first page and on it was a noose like a little hangman noose with me hanging from it with the same thing Niggaboo will kill you and

This is in the 90s. This is the 90s in 1995 The KKK marched in the 4th of July parade in Brazil, Niana now they won't allow to march Like actually in the parade. They were allowed to march 100 or 200 feet behind it. My mom didn't know how bad my grades were. She never saw one report card. I hit everything from, and she didn't ask. She was so bogged down with life.

And so I got away with a lot of shit because her mind was occupied. So it made me honestly a weaker person. So I scanned life. My mom helped me scan life for a while. But this time I couldn't scan life. I went the second time, took the ASBAB test, failed it again, and a week later,

she got a letter in the mail from my high school. And I'm a junior in high school, and the letter says pretty much your son's gonna flunk out. He's missed 25% in school, because she was always gone, so I didn't went to school. He's gonna miss school, and so son's gonna flunk out. He's missed 25% of school because she was always gone. So I didn't go to school He's gonna miss school and so he's gonna flunk out. So I was exposed Once again my mom goes well, she read the letter to me She put my bed and her best advice was guess what you go flunk out of school That was it in the conversation

So this is my develop my accountability. And this is awesome. I look in the mirror and at this time I didn't want to be the black kid in school. There's like five or six of us in school and like 17 hundred kids and like that. And I made up a character to kind of like draw attention from color. And so what I did was I started to design haircuts and one hair could I have was the old man and I shaved my head up here just like this. You did this. I did this and I would keep the hair on the side like old man has. And one time I shaved my whole head and had a reverse part. So I had hair up here and it kind of zigzagged.

So I did things to be this cool, crazy kind of like creative kid. You know, like Chris Cross came out this time. It's time I had pants sagging, but backwards. So my back pocket's here. I had two freshmen. I was crazy, man. But I was a crazy, cool kid in school. So I look in the fucking mirror. I see this letter. I'm

I'm fucked up and I'm like, you know what man? No one's coming to help me. Yeah. I remember back to what my principal said because I went to the principal when they wrote that shit on my car in my notebook. And the best advice he can give me, God help his soul was this. They're ignorant. They spelled nigger niger. God. And so that's it. But honestly, I talked to the guy as I wrote my book and I have nothing wrong with principal Freeman. He actually interviewed him for the book

and he was happy interview. He's good man. What the fuck, you could tell some black you're your white guy in white society. We could tell me. You could shut another fucking school and have a fucking damn, so I started talking to myself this way in this mirror.

What the fuck is principal, at that time, this is the best you could fucking do, principal Freeman? That was my mind then, but in this mirror, it wasn't my mom, it wasn't principal Freeman, it wasn't my dad, it was me. Because nobody coming back to fucking help David Goggins, that was my mindset now. And so with my non-spelling ass, I started getting these sticky notes.

And writing, you're fucked up, and my mom wakes up like, what is wrong with you? I go, man, I have to change. Because I can't stay here. I can't, I lit myself in the mirror, and I was defeated. I go, man, I have to change, because I can't stay here. I can't, I lift myself in the mirror, and I was defeated. I go, look at myself, I'm like, who am I? So I'm defeated in this mirror, and I'm like, okay, I'm changing.

I said, mom, can we please get a tutor? So we can only afford $15 a week for a tutor. So I have four hours a month, four hours a month. I had a fourth grade reading level, man, four hours a month, four six months. So I had. So this tutor did one thing for me, very big. I was like, I remember her damn name, but basically she saw that I was slow, very slow and couldn't retain shit. And I think she was joking. She she says you can have to write down everything a thousand times for you remember this Mm-hmm. I

Took it as okay literally Roger that okay, so I literally went to the store and about the spower notebooks And I started literally writing down let's say it's a math equation the same fucking math equation Over and over and over and over again when it came to a paragraph comprehension I couldn't read the fucking paragraph and then remember it. So we had like I think 25 or 30 paragraph comprehension things I had to write down the whole fucking thing like a whole paragraph and you you don't have much time to take the fucking test But that's how I learned okay, how I learned the Navy dive, man, I'm like a thousand pages, Navy dive man, I got it a year in advance.

Oh my gosh. It wrote the book out probably 14 times. So like the boy was law, child was law, gay, loose, sex law, doubt was law, all of these law, but over and over, the whole manual. So it's not like, so now I've done it so many times, I can go back in my mind and say, okay,

page 71 was Bull's Law, and I can go back in this, and I'm looking at it right now, and I remember writing it down so many times that it takes me to say, okay, I got it, and I can write it down, almost verbatim. How I saw, that's how I learned even to the day. But the work ethic, I had to, people think I became this guy from running. No, I became this guy from fucking studying.

I had to study for hours. What might you take you an hour to learn? Take me two days. So that's where, at the table, at the table. In my best friend Johnny remembers me like God you're like you just changed something happened. I got obsessed. So I take the test, I score high, I get in the air force. And that's when I'm like man I'm gonna be a prayer restroom and this is when I realized man I teach myself how to swim. I taught myself how to swim. But this is when I realized man, I teach myself how to swim. I taught myself how to swim, but this is when I realize man that I'm negative, buoyant

as hell. And there's a lot of things that wickets people in special operations is the water. Not swimming, but the water confidence. When they're like taking your air from you and your underwater panic, I was very uncomfortable. So long story short, I was there for six weeks. I was moving on pretty well, second in my class. And I was getting through all the water confidence, but barely.

But I wanted to quit every fucking night. I didn't go to sleep every night. This just paranoid the next day of getting back in that pool. So six months go by. We had this medical examination, and they draw my blood, and they say, you have sickle cell. Sickle cells are a blood disease that some African Americans have. Basically, you know, if something happens in a stressful situation, stroke, heart attack, sudden death, this happened to a few African Americans in the military, so they pulled me from training, saying

you can't do this job. And when you live a very stressed out life, like I was living, that's your norm. So not sleeping, being scared, that was my norm. I won't go quick. But when they pull you out of training, and now I'm fucking comfortable. So now I'm seeing my clash of 24 guys. It was like 150, now it's 24 guys.

And they're in the pool, and I'm on the side of the pool I'm not in the water now. I'm seeing what I was doing. I'm seeing guys struggling panicking in the water like wanting to quit I'm like fuck that. Wow. I'm not going so now I'm comfortable and I'm able to see now I'm not going back so now my big dream being a pair of rescuements. I'm now seeing that do this Mm-hmm. I'm like I I wanna get out of the air force. Wow. I don't even wanna be in the fucking military. So this what I'm saying, so I'm hoping now

that this sickle cell thing is gonna get me kicked out of the military. Cause I'm like, okay, I don't wanna go back in the fucking, I'm done. So I'm not getting happy. Cause now I'm like, I won't quit. They're gonna medically drop me from the course. This is great.

I can keep my head up. I'll learn how to read, I'll learn how to write. I passed the course. This is great. I can keep my head up I'll learn how to read and learn how to write I passed the ads Vab test But I'm fixing everything on the surface. I'm not going into the fucking dungeon So the doc calls up. I go back to the doctor's I'm like skipping down there thinking I'm getting out of here, man Menically discharged. He goes man, you know what? You were doing good in your class and we don't really know, we don't know how you got this far with this, whatever, so guess what we're gonna do? We're gonna push you back in the train.

I'm like, fuck. So, if I'm thinking now, I only have about a couple, you know, two and a half weeks left to train, because I missed a week, a week is some change. I'll go, you know what, great, man, I have to suck this up, man. I can do this So I'm trying to motivate myself on the way back to my CEO my command officer Sergeant Lumberg I get to start Lumberg

Sergeant Lumberg looks at me says, God, it's man. That's great. You're back in the training You got to start from day one Because I'm at critical parts of trainer. I can't miss that many days And I'm like, but I was a great liar. And I would look at a hardcore man and tell him that I just fucking quit. So I looked at him and said, hey, you know what? It's hard man, this sickle cell thing, man.

The doctor's talking about sudden death, stroke, heart attack. I can get fuck my sickle cell, but kind of nothing about it. I knew I was struggling, I knew I had some health issues, but I just thought, because I was killing myself and while I was struggling, I knew I had some health issues, but I just thought because I was killing myself and I was doing. He said, you're right man, I wouldn't want to do that either. So he gave me a medical out of pair rescue. And he said, when we figure this out more, we have you come back. I want ever going back.

I'm like, I never, I'm never getting back in the fucking water again, but I was able to leave on a medical. But I quit. I quit. Why do you? Why do you, why do you tell this? I have to. Because everybody thinks I'm the world's toughest motherfucker. And I might be somewhere about that now. But that's where I was. And I tell the story because if I just talk about I broke the pull up record. I did all these fucking races. I went through Sila Tram with you. I was in three hell weeks, Ranger School. If I talk about all the bad asser-y,

like we like doing social fucking media. And I don't tell you that I was a fucked up kid. And I was scared of shit and I was depressed and insecure. And in all this shit, what good am I for anybody? Right. I'm a superhero from a liar. I'm that now, but I wasn't born that. Yeah. I had to make myself into this shit.

It's amazing to me that this, you won't accept it this way, but like this military icon, but not really like a social icon too. Like when people aspire to be tough and mentally tough, that you won't accept it this way, but like this military icon, but not really like a social icon too. When people aspire to be tough and mentally tough, I mean, there are UFC fighters that when they win fights now,

quote you in their post conference interviews. I don't even know if you know that or not, but like, I watch it, they're like, Goggin says, seriously, so that guy kind of bullshits his way out of the military. Like that's staggering. And then that guy, if you don't want me to jump in ahead a little bit, then that guy ends up kind of living

in an apartment, gains a ton of weight, gets up to almost 300 pounds, killing cockroaches as an exterminator. This is just crazy where we're gonna go right now. And then when we're gonna go after that, see even more bananas, but go ahead, jump back. So it was funny though, so I get out of pair rescue,

so I go to a job called TACP. Just real quick about that, it's a great fucking job with the best jobs in the military, but I'm all poopy past, now come out of pair rescue men. Something in TACP, some weak ass motherfuckers. TACP, Del Toro. It's one of the best fucking jobs in the world. But my mind once again has me shackled.

And I'm thinking I'm not a pair of escumers. So I'm like, you know, tag P was a great job. I had great friends in it and I did it pretty well. But I could have been somewhat better. My mind was once again hijacking me. So I get out, but from the time from 1994 to 1999 or 1998, I go from 175 pounds to 297, not much education. Four and a half years in military, I started spraying for cockroaches and making $1,000 a month. And I only had an $810 apartment.

So I'm scrounging, dude. And so my life is hard. And but, fuck it. I'm spraying for cock roast from a limb of clock at night and seven o'clock in the morning. And that's my life. But once again, man, you can't lie to yourself. I can lie to you, I can lie to everybody else.

Now it's great at it. But buddy, every fucking day in that dirty mirror, that accountability mirror is no more. Fuck that accountability mirror. That's just fucking shaking my head and go to work. But I saw my reflection every day. I really didn't know how fat I was. I didn't really want to look at myself.

But I was haunted. These demons were in my head every day, man. You ain't shit, man. God, dumb. And you wear this fucking uniform. You're getting your every day, man. You ain't shit, man. God, dumb. And you wear this fucking uniform. You're getting your fucking equal ab truck. You go spray for cockroaches. You fucking go in the kitchen.

You eat your fucking brownies and shit. In the back kitchen, you make shakes and shit while you're in there, man. I was like, fuck, man. So I come home and I never forget it. I should spray down steak and shake my last stop at about 6'30 at night, or 6'30 in the morning, I sprayed out a steak and shake, and they had this big large shake.

They give me a special cup. And then it's dumped the fucking chocolate milkshake in there, and I go across street to 7'11, out of 45 minute commute home. And I would be, and I go to 7'11 and get these chocolate donuts, like the mini-hosted donuts. Now it's popping, I'm like, fucking tick-tack. You know what I'm, I'm eating, I just mini-hosted donuts. Now it's popping them like fucking tick-tax. You know, it was like, I'll eat it.

I just fucking pop it, boom. This fucking, this be driving, listening to radio popping them like tick-tax, drinking the shake. So by the time I got home, that box of donuts was gone. My mom lived about two miles down the road because she moved teen apples in the end of now.

So what would happen is this. So, I would eat that and my routine was this. Shit you not, my breakfast was not that. That was my snack for my 45, so my mom, and this is no fucking shit. My breakfast, you know, this fucking pill's berry sending rolls. You got to five, you got to eight.

I had to eight. So, you had to eight. I had the eight. So you had the eight. She baked that shit and then it was seven to eight scrambled eggs hard and half a pound of bacon well done. And I would chase that motherfucker down with foodie pebbles, two balls, or something sugary. That was my breakfast after the fucking donuts and the shake. So this day though, I get home, call my mom up on the phone. She goes, you want your staple? I'm like, hell yeah, I'm a fucking staple, you know?

That's how I talk my mom. You know me, my mom came with some fucked up shit. Who the man, why you cussing us? Cause my life wasn't easy. So I'm like a sinner in sugarcourt of rape. So my mom cusses at me because it's a great relationship. Okay great come over. And so at this time my routine was to come home, turn the TV on, listen to the TV like

belarit because like literally I had this big living room and my shower was like back down the hallway. So I turn the TV on and like belar the TV and kind of like listen to the libels as a shower. I'm hearing Navy's seal. Heard a bottom, knew a bottom, but now I want to come out and see what the fucking time about. I heard World's Toughest. So I come on and watch this documentary.

I come out, I barely say I have my towel and I have my shake down on the kind of, I have this little fucking TV in its shoes, here's living room, so I'm looking at TV and I'm leaning forward and I'm watching this shit and it pretty much Goes through First phase second phase and third phase, but they concentrate on hell week But all I saw was the Pacific Ocean right water again, dude. I saw nothing but water more water than pair rescue And these guys are like going from this big class to this and it shows them quitting and I see nothing but this jackhammer guys It's not bubbles and this rolling around sugar cookies and in out of surf and carrying these boats and laws

I'm like fuck that that shit looks evil, but guys as they quit I saw like their soul Leaving their bodies almost on screen because this look came over them and I imagined I Remember myself back in prayer rescue train. I bet that's how I fucking looked in front of that fucking Sergeant Lumberg I bet he could see in my eyes that I was basically quitting. He knew I was quitting He just gave me a medical. I'm a fucking knew it as a man looking at another man. You know when the man's done And I'm like fucker knew it as a man looking at another man you know when the man's done and I'm like I thought about something I said motherfucker knew I was quit dude. He just didn't he saved me and it Want to tell me I was good he knew it cuz I can look at somebody now. It's okay. Do you good?

But I know you're quitting. It's your fucking knee or your back or whatever. You're quitting He saw that in me and I said motherfucker man. So now I'm watching these guys go through training and it goes down to 22 guys were left. And it was amazing how it ended because these words, I don't know them exactly, but it's in my book exactly. And this command officer is at graduation and he's 22 guys graduate but still training. And his command officer is at graduation, and he's 22 guys graduate but still training. And his command officer is in his dress whites. He's up there, some old skinny fucking commander, fucking but you can tell he's been through the shit,

salty looking motherfucker. And he's looking hard, and his speech was amazing. He goes, we live in a society where mediocrity is often rewarded. And he looked down to the 22 men, and he says something about basically, you all to test mediocrity's often rewarded. And he looked down to the 22 men and he said something about basically you all to test mediocrity. And he goes on to talk about this mediocrity and shit.

And I just sat back and I said, God man, I just wanna be like these motherfuckers. I wanna feel you, because now I was projecting myself in those chairs. I wanted, how do y'all feel like right now? Now I wanna feel like you do you you 22 me I want to feel like that man. I Said I'm tired of feeling the way I feel every day. I'm tired of it How I feel I'm tired of lying to myself lying to people and it's being some piece of shit And I always knew in the back of my mind. I could be something special. Yes

But I knew The work it was gonna take was gonna kill me. I was afraid of that. I was afraid of the brutality in the suffering. I was going to have to endure. But I knew, I knew I could do something. But I'm like, I ain't trying to do that kind of work, man. I must not try to do this. I chose the path of the easy of least resistance. So now my idea is it became so haunting and daunting on me myself. That's it. I'm done. I'm fucking done. And I thought I fixed myself in the accountability mirror. When my mom put the letter down in the bed. Yeah. No. So now at this point, I actually drive back to Buffalo, New York, to see my dad, having seen him in years.

I've not heard this part. And no one knows about this. I didn't put this in the book, even. So before I start this journey, be Navy seal. I go back to see my dad because I realized now I got fixed some shit. I'm blaming everything. I got to go back. You know how long time you're like, if you're a runner, your right knee may hurt,

but it's not your right knee that hurts, it's where you left hip. Yes. But we're constantly on the right knee. I'm constantly on all my shit, but I need to go back to the root of the problem, which is my dad. I gotta face the demon.

I gotta go back and see what made him so fucked up, to make me so fucked up. Why am I fucked up? So I go back and I go back as an older man now, I'm in my 20s, I'm not a kid anymore. And I want to see this man in face him as a grown man, but still as a kid in my head. I was still a kid, but I was a grown man as my age. And I went back and I realized he was the same man

that he was. Still the same. Still the same. And I talked to him, he was still nuts. And I had to go back and face that one more time, but to face it in a different way. How'd you do it different? I looked at him in a way.

We never said sorry to one another. And he went off of my mom and my grandparents and all kind of shit. But I looked at him in a way that I realized now Why you fuck this up? I had to almost be him To realize it's okay brother. It's okay because I realized that somewhere in your fucking life something fucked you up and you didn't deal with it

And so you put that shit on me my mom and everybody around you your fucking life, something fucked you up. And you didn't deal with it. And so you put that shit on me, my mom, and everybody around you, I'm gonna deal with my shit. So even though you gave me all this shit, you gave me a satchel and shit that I didn't deserve. And now I'm all fucked up. And people think I'm a fucking liar, and I'm all fucked up. You gave me this.

You created this fucking nightmare of Goggins. I'm gonna fix it though. So now I get it, I look up, you gave me this. You created this fucking nightmare of Goggins. I'm gonna fix it though. So now I get it, I look at it, and this one's in my head. You're my favorite thing you've ever said right now. But I love all of it, but that's my favorite thing I've never heard that. I'm gonna fix it now.

So I was taking, I take all this shit, it's mine. I'm gonna fix all this shit. But I know to fix shit, people wanna find peace immediately. And this is where people don't like me. I don't believe that shit. You can go find it through fucking yoga and all this other bullshit. I stretch out a lot and I believe in yoga.

You're all just great, but you can go find it in some fucking room. You're gonna find peace from going to war with yourself. Cause we all got shit. We all got shit. People look at me. And the reason I'm a story of resignation people, because I don't hide.

I'll tell you exactly the fuck I am. I will admit to it, people are great at hiding. So they want to just find peace. No, you got to take your shit. Fix it, there's fucked up in you. Don't just shove it under a rug. Fix it. And then you'll find some peace later

after you fix some shit. So now I'm realizing this. I go home several months go by and now I'm like, okay, here we go. It's time to be a Navy SEAL. I start calling these fucking recruiters, man. And when you're two on 97 pounds and you have prior service, man, recruiters laugh at your ass, dude. Right. and you're not you're not twenty two years old. I'm twenty four right there. And so I'm fat. I'm on a shape and I know this. And so I found it after two weeks of calling recruits

I found it's kind of Steven Saljo. And Steven Saljo says come on in the office. I walk in the office he looks at me and he's the first recruits that says you know what damn your big fucking dude man you want me to see you I said yeah but he can give me the look of like you can't do it he gave me look of let's go away yeah he raped me 297 he went through his little chart start writing all this shit down and he said uh you got a lofty lofty task ahead of you I go why he goes well this program now I was trying to get into, I was in the reserves.

And I was going to go from the reserve program to an active duty seal. So this program was shutting down. And I was getting the last class, like one or two classes left before it shut down. So I had about three months to get the weight stand. 100 pounds and 30. 106 pounds. So the standard for a six foot one person back then, six foot one, I forget it was, it was 191. And I was 297.

So I pretty much said, fuck this, this pretty much can't work for me, man. This is impossible. So I go back to work spring for cockroaches and I hit the mother load. Like I fucking, I hit the mother load of cockroaches, rodents and everything. And I go out to the dumpster and these animals, I was like, fuck, I'm done. So I quit my job, right?

Actually the boss had to come to my, I quit my job right then I actually the boss had to come to my I quit The boss had to come looking for me to get the truck back I left work so he had to come to my house I didn't even go to work again. So all these restaurants. I had the keys to them all the fucking alarm codes All the keys were in the fucking truck They like he had to come by locking my door and say, but he brought some friends with him, Kyle Torton, I sent him pants. Right, big dude.

I need some fucking backup. I'm out. And so I had now started in my journey. And so now I'm like, I'm losing the fucking weight. But my first run was four miles. So you had to run that day on your plan? That's my plan, as I'm driving a truck back home from quit my job, I'm literally, I drive home, I get my shoes on,

and I run a quarter mile. Come home, crime. You stopped after a quarter mile? Yeah, walk back home, because I was exhausted. Cause you still, I haven't run in like years. You're sucking down, I remember, yeah, I remember back when I was 175. Running was easy.

I was one of the fastest runners in class. But now it's just hard, man. I'm on a shape and I was just defeated. Because now I was 175, I wasn't good shape. And I got myself into a bigger hole now. And now I have to, now I gotta lose this way and I gotta take the ads that I began to get in the Navy. So I gotta take that, so I took that fucker two more times.

Cause the first time I passed it, but I had to get a 50 on mechanical comprehensives. So there's like 10 different sessions. Had to get a 50, I got a 44. You can only get a waiver for five points. So I had to take it again and guess what happened? It's in the book really well. It's exactly what happened.

I take the ads, Vab test, and I took it, and now we have computers. Back when I took it the first time, it's like all like scant-challenge shit. So now I see a computer, so now I'm freaking out on my gots on the computer. So I take it and the sergeant in charge of the ads bad test isn't supposed to tell you what you got. So I take it for my second time in my last time.

Then I can let me take it again. So I'm now down to 215 pounds. I'm losing the weight, but not take the ads bad test for the second time to get in the Navy. As I leave, I get out to my car, and I'm like, this is my life. I got to find out I got this fucking test because usually it takes two days to get the results back. But they get immediately once you, once you hit send that, that guy gets it right there. So I'm like, fuck that man. I go back in. I go, Hey, man, can you please? He goes, man, this is fucking military protocol.

I'm not breaking it for you. I'm like, people are still taking the fucking test. I'm not breaking it for you. I'm like, people are still taking the fucking test. I'm like crying. I'm like, man, you don't understand what I've been to. You know, I'm like, this is my life. Please, I'm begging this guy. Please let me know what I got. So he scrolls through and sees David guy and he goes, you got a 65. I go, great. I don't care about that. That's my overall score. I go, what I get on mechanical, you're asking a lot from me, man. I go, please, man, I have to get a 50 on mechanical. He scrolls over.

I got exactly a 50. Have you seen the pursuit of happiness? How that motherfucker, when he runs in the stairs, he gets a job and like the hair stands up back to your neck, because he works so hard to get this shit. When I left, as Bab and it's nighttime and getting my car, it felt like that. Did it.

Something came up, it felt like I truly accomplished, you know I passed it before, but now I know I'm all in. That's good for me to hear it for people to hear because I have a hard time picturing you celebrating anything and so that's good to hear that something that of all the things you've accomplished you celebrated that. It was funny. I haven't celebrated since then. Because I needed that to start the war. Wow. Without that, the celebration was, I can start the war now.

It wasn't that I won the war. I can start my war. That's what made me, that's what happened to celebrate it since, I'm always in that battle. I have peace, but I'm in this battle every fucking day. So I got to 50, I can start war now. I'm down to 215, I have about another month to go,

whatever it is to fucking lose the weight. I dropped the weight, I'm in sealed training now. The war now can begin. Wow. And it does. And the war begins, but I'm gonna tell you, it has to be a movie, because I'm listening to you, it has to be a movie.

Like the book, by the way, the book everybody, you have to get the book, okay? I'm telling you, it has to be a movie like the book by the way the book everybody you have to get the book okay you I'm telling you I read it in a day and but now hearing you live and hearing some of the things that weren't in there it's moving to me because now and this is just the very beginning of the war too so this man loses chapter three right now yeah this guy sucks down steak shacks shakes and, and doughnuts, and fruity pebbles, or whatever the hell it was, and all the stuff mom's making you, it's amazing too. I think a little less than in there, David is,

you had all these times where you thought, now I've changed. And that's important for people to hear too, because I've had that too. It's like, hey, now I got it, now I'm on it, now, and even seeing your dad, even the dad thing, that was a breakthrough, but then even after that, it was like, it took the damn freaking cockroaches

and rodents to flip you, and then even after that, you're on the quarter mile, come home crying to yourself. So it's all these things, like, I think everyone thinks like there's just gonna be this defining moment period where everything changes. That's the movie. That's the movie. That's the movie. And it's not real.

I've had moments, but it's never been like, that was it and I've never been the same again. This is life. Yeah. And that's why I talk about, man. Like life is not a movie. It's not a movie where you have one breakthrough and you're just taking off.

No, man. Didn't you do Hell Week three times? Yeah, so why? How that happened was once again, this is where the war really began. Okay. So now I'm in civil training and I'm like almost in awe,

because I'm like my God. I'm around the baddest men of planet from what I thought back then. But once you are able to get in the doors, you realize you're this fucking man. And that's what I realized, okay, this is good for me to see, man. You're fucking like me.

I had to work a little hard to get here, but now that I'm on the same plane for the Zim, that's fucking go to war, guys. So how it happened was there was a guy there that the command officer of BUDGE was Captain Bowen. He was an old crusty Vietnam vet and he had a different way of doing shit. And basically, no matter where you're at in training, if you failed something, he was

going to roll you back to day one week one. We had guys who were two weeks from graduation, six month program, they got rolled back to day one week one They didn't have to go through hell week again, but they got rolled back to phase one Day one or phase one, but not but but it skipped hell week for me I got rolled back in first phase Three times first phase were hell week is that and how it happened was since I was a reservist that also fucked me Okay, so I had a reservist that also fucked me.

Okay. So I had a double fuck on my ass. So basically, Hell Week was I think the third or fourth week when I was going through and it starts on Sunday and it's on Friday. I get there and I had fucked up strength, strength, stress fractures, double pneumonia. So I get rolled back to day one week one. And I got to start hell week again. I didn't complete that hell week. So now I get to my second class day one week when I'm going through, I get through hell week, happy as shit. But when I was in hell week, I actually broke my kneecap. Now I'm thinking I'm not getting rolled again, dude. And I really talk about this really

good in the book, but I'll go through the highlights here. So I'm toughin' it out. Like I'm not gonna go through buds with a fuckin' broken knee. And my stress fractures are on fuckin' fire. But I'm going through. So now I have to do this, we had this not tying test after Hell Week, and you got a tread water and when you're tread with broken kneecap and I'm negative buoyant so I'm using everything to stay up and you

gotta go down and tie your knots. My kneecap is going in and out and I'm like fucking so I talk about this in the book. So now I'm up on the pool deck and I talk about it good whatever but here we are now I realize now I can't get through this Like my knee now from that pool sessions like fucking a basketball So I realized I go back the X-ray and say look man. You're just done. Your patella is done so I now Go in to captain Bowen And I don't want to get rolled again

And captain Bowen looks at me and says basically, we're gonna let you come back. Captain Bowen and another guy, this other guy that I don't even mention, come like once we mention them. If it wasn't for this guy, I wanna miss his name so bad, you know I'm talking about, I wanna miss his name so bad,

he asked to talk to him a couple of minutes ago. This is the guy that made this happen. He broke rules, I believe, to make this happen. Okay. Because I wasn't supposed to come back for a third time. Like this is like in humane in one year, go through another hell week. So I'm sitting there from the captain bowing and captain bowing. I look, man, we're gonna let you come back in class 235. This class 231 with a broken knee cap. Look it up, man. Like you don't that's not a lot of time.

That's what I'm thinking. So, this was in May, I classed up again in January. I had stress fractures. Stress fractures don't heal that quick, man, especially when you beat them up. So, I had that most time in the heal, and that's it. My last time to go through Navy Silver Training. So, I come back, and I'm now on my third

hell week. We had a guy die on my third hell week from pulmonary edema. As you know, San Diego gets fucking cold, especially in February, March, that water temperature. The Pacific is never warm. He ended up dying. So I get to, and so we, hell Week ended on Thursday morning because he died. Okay. So in about 30 hours early, but what happened with me was, as I said, Hell Week starts on Sunday. Usually you don't swell up until about Wednesday. My body said, oh shit man, we're back.

On Monday, 24 hours into a man, I'm the pills very doughboy. my stretch fractures my I'm blown up So I'm going through hell week like fucking done But I'm like I can't quit. It's my last time going through. I can't get rolled So I get through hell week and this is where the shit gets fucking evil man This is where I start to click into something when you when you're mine This is this this whole 40% rule shit. I talk about all the time That I made up a long time ago. I start making up through pain. Tell them what that is what you go

So basically 40% rule is I Em a strong believer that we quit because why how the fuck does a two or 97 pound cockroach guy? Who quit on everything is now considered one of the best men of the planet. How is that possible? It means I had to change one thing my mindset. So there's no way in hell that that was in but that was. That guy was in me. Well that guy came down here and said hey that's what man you're a fat ass but I'm will now make your bad ass. I want a miracle this shit to be a bad ass No, it was in me. I had to believe to make that belief work and do hard work. I did that So the 40% rule was like we have like a car some cars have a governor on it

Mm-hmm And when you get like 92 miles now that car start doing this because you can't go any faster Those cars that don't have governor's are a fast ass, whatever, Porsche, whatever. That's a fucking barrier. Gone. We have that ability. But we have put this governor on our minds. And you have to the factory that put the governor on that car. The factory is now you that put this on your fucking mind. You got to take that motherfucker off. Until you take it off, you're going to constantly get to 92 miles an hour and do this. Because you go faster. Yeah. In my fact, you might even go slower. So basically, I started realizing this through my life, through going through all these times. So now I

get through hell week, we ended like 30 hours early, and now we're in walk week. After you get through hell week, you have walk week, and walk week is when you're basically just walking around to heal up your body. And I walk week into early because the instructors were pissed off. A guy dies. But the strokes are mad that we didn't finish the complete hell week, but I already had a complete hell week. Correct. Of course. Because I don't do one already. So now I'm saying I think I mean I really do fucking one and a half of these now I have like two and a half of these motherfuckers and now I'm getting my ass kicked because now there's

truckers of mad that are clashed in the complete of four hell week and like they were like getting the past. So they said Roger that. They should walk week down on like Tuesday. So everybody that was injured because the hell it was very different than most of them. They had us on her feet the whole time, rucking, doing nothing but rucking. In and out of the water it was brutal. So it was much harder hell within the others I was in. So anyway, my legs were broken. I'm saying thing, how the fuck now there's no walk we can't heal So my idea was this I

want to leave my house early because I lived off base and I left early I got to my dive cage where we had duct tape So I put my black sock on about four o'clock in the morning put a black sock on and what I do is I got duct tape So you know whenever you move your ankle it causes your shin to hurt if you have any issue up here. So what I did was I casted with duct tape so I put the duct tape over the sock and so the sock kind of protected it to give you a little cushion. I duct tape as tight as I could and right here at the pivot point

it created a huge pressure ulcer because your ankles still wants to move so that tape would just dig in there. So I did it every single day because my stress fraction would just kill me. So I ran pretty much for the first 45 minutes the most excruciating pain in my life. And so but basically at the 45 minutes my legs would go numb And when they go numb you don't feel it shit anymore So I went through buds like this So now the fucked up thing about it. My gosh, man as I get the third phase

And for some reason man, I healed my stress fractures And I to this day I haven't had them ever since, but I literally, from running, and I'm not saying don't do this, but people go, how'd you get through it? By the time I got the third phase, which is like maybe three and a half months later, when I went to third phase, my stress fractures were healed. It was crazy. And I ran on them. If people say, what's the shinsplit, no more fuck, I had x-rays. They were breaks in my legs.

So, and I'm not saying do that, but, because it's very painful. Well, most people are willing to go to a point where they get their body to the point where it gets numb. Right. And you were, right? And people say, why did you do that? Is either that or not becoming Navy SE? Do you think think can I ask you a question about navy seat I'm just

curious you've been to three hell weeks which is this as you hear this it's just it's been anus do you do you know do you have any insight what the difference is for someone who finishes and doesn't because I've already said I respect guys you didn't finish it to right so is there some separators that your blood just go away when the pain happens? What is it? There's only one separator, ma'am. And anybody, not just Navy skills, but anybody that can accomplish anything that is hard.

The only separator is that they really want to be there. There's some people that get inspired and that inspiration moves them to try to do something. But the inspiration is very high right now in this nice environment. We're in a nice environment. The ocean is out there. I'm talking to you. If I want to go to the fucking refrigerator and get something to drink, eat, I can. I watch a movie about some bad asses, you're inspired. But the second you're not in this environment and you're actually doing what inspired you, that suck factor is now real. You can't just get off your fucking couch and get a fucking

shake or get a fucking box of donuts or turn a TV or go take a shit or a piss or go get your girlfriend a call up. No, you're now there. And only those people who have been there a million times in their minds and have lived in that water and have suffered a million times and realized my legs may break. My knee may break. My bones will hurt. I will be the coldest I've been in my life. I will be miserable. And accept that. Because what happens is when you're getting a horrible situation in life, you're mine.

I call my one second decision. When you get a horrible situation in life, your mind and me, he says, get the fuck out of here. Everybody's does. Even if you want to be there. But it starts to have all these different questions in your mind in that one second. And it says, okay, why are you here? Why are you doing this?

Why this, why that? And then you start to say yourself, if you don't wanna be there that bad, I have a beautiful wife at home, man. Why the fuck am I doing this, man? Like this is stupid, this is gonna get these guys injured. Like they're gonna pay for this for the rest of their lives. I'm not gonna break my body up to do this.

Your mind starts to say, yeah, this is stupid. But if you are already knowing that this is gonna happen to you, you have all the answers to these questions that your mind starts to give you when you're in suffer mode. Yeah. And that's what I realized. You're true that your visualization of those moments over and over. Over and over again, you have to be there over but not there at the graduation.

Okay. You got to be there in the worst part. In the suffering. That you know over and over again, you got to live that in your mind. Do you like suffering or do you just deal with suffering? Real answer. Real answer? Yeah. I like to see real answer. I like to get a bunch of men together. Okay. Men that are the hardest of the hard and I want to be with these men and I want to see

them suffer because I'm suffering right along with you but I want to see them suffer. Because I'm suffering right along with you, but I want to see me get through it. I want to see what you're made of. I want to see like almost like the Colosseum in Rome. Let's fucking go to the fucking Colosseum. And the only way to see who the baddest motherfucker is is to suffer. You can't do it by writing a paper. So let's go because why would I found out through my life was I thought of myself as a weak little bitch kid.

And what I found out in the only message I want to get across to people is once you change one thing, your mindset, you can attack everything and I find it fascinating I'm fascinated because I'll be in these moments I put these guys on some fucking pedestal yeah which people do with you they do with me and they shouldn't and I was this guy who was a piece of shit looking at this like God how are you guys this amazing but once I work my way up there that's it my God man we can all compete motherfucker let's go so do I like suffering I like suffering in the way that is competitive that brings out the absolute best in me and in everybody else so like I want to see a man be defeated I I wanna see a man get broken and say, fuck you.

I love these men. These men I love, but there's very few of them. There's very few of them. And there's very few that are willing to go there more than once. A lot of people, even people who've gone through special ops, it kicks the shit out of them to a point where in their mind, what got me bad in pair rescue was when I was going through it,

I said, oh, they go do this one time. And so many people in special ops where they believe it or not, in anything, fuck special ops and anything, that's hard. I'm only doing this one time. Once you say that, you fuck yourself. So true, I gotta tell you, off camera, you and I are talking about something. Now we're gonna go to something cool.

Okay. Well, we've been in something cool, but, like I work with a lot of athletes and they get out of their career. They made this massive sacrifice all their life to get to the NFL. They make that thing happen. They only want to do it once. When that's over, they're identity set on that thing forever. They just repeat the stories from that time over and over. I watch them have such a difficult second half of their life.

I try to help them with that. I've watched it with my business people. You and I were talking off camera. I've started to uncover with me the last couple of years that I've watched it with my business people. And you and I were talking off camera. So I've started to uncover with me the last couple of years that I've been on social media and teaching these things. And if you gave me that mirror test the last couple of years, that accountability mirror. When I look in it, I'm starting to look at a dude who used to do some crazy shit that was cool in his life, really accomplish some things. And all these accolades, people follow you, they listen to you, they think you're something special, you have that, I have that.

Clearly, the difference is in our lives, too vast, even venture what you've achieved, the things you've overcommered, completely different than mine. But I'm starting to realize something about myself that I want to give the audience a gift of, and I want you to talk about it. You know what I've just accepted? I'm only going to be happy when I'm starting to realize something about myself that I want to give the audience a gift of and I want you to talk about it You know what? I've just accepted. I'm only gonna be happy when I'm grinding for something It's right. I'm only gonna be happy when I'm growing. I don't want to talk about stuff I used to do Mm-hmm. I Want to do something great with my life. I don't know that I can get to the mental level you have

But I think everybody here needs to know something if you just think you're gonna do something temporarily once Man, you're gonna be unhappy when it's over. That's right. How about you right now? When you look in the mirror right now, so Goggins looks in the accounting mirror today. What does he see and what are your thoughts about that? So, same with you.

What happened with me was like, so who I was, I was just nobody guy. And I created this Goggins.. And that goggins, there's David goggins and there's goggins. David goggins is a calm, cool guy that sits back. He used to be, you know, weak kid. Now he's just a normal guy. Goggins is a guy that is willing to tape up his legs to go after it. In that book, you read about David Goggins and also Goggins. What I realized in my life is that Goggins is who I love. Goggins is who I created.

My dad created David Goggins. I created Goggins. So what's happening with me, and since can't hurt me came out, and since I got on social media, listen to what I fucking don't like social media, which way I'm not on there very much, which is why I give people one time, I have to do me.

I have to do me. So people get it fucking twisted, man. I am who I am. What's in that book do me. So people get it fucking twisted man. I am who I am. Yeah. What's in that book is me. Yeah. So now what they see is this guy who's trying to get people to get off their fucking ass. That just happened to happen, man. Mm-hmm. I didn't set out. When I set out to be a fucking seal and set out to go to Ranger School and all this earth should I did and break records. I didn't set out to fucking please motherfuckers. Right.

I didn't set out to say, hey, pay me now. I got a great fucking story. I fucked that. And I realized now that my life has kind of gotten to a point where people know me. I have followers and whatnot. The biggest depression of my life is you get caught up into helping so many people out and it's great and I love that but you lose yourself and all of that shit. It literally and people go, man, but my God, like you're changing, I get all that shit,

man. But what the fuck is motivating you in that book? What's motivating you is the fucking stories I'm telling you about what I did in my life. Once I stop living that, I'm no more. Yes. I am not the fucker that you are now being motivated from. So right now in the mirror, I now got back to Goggins. I'm now back to running 100 miles a week.

I'm now back to getting the fucker. I saw and I talked to my girl by all time. You travel, you speak, you know, you all this shit. It's all fucking great and Danny for some, for most people. I'm Goggins. What makes me me is the dungeon. And yeah, and people, oh my god, they're gonna hear this, my god, you don't have any peace, you're like, don't get it fucking twisted, weak people who hear me get all fucking poopy

pants about how I talk. So be it. What changed me was I had to be harder on myself. And I have to continue to grind myself into a fine dust. Period. That's where I feel good. I feel like I accomplished something. If things come easy, it's not fun.

I must fail at something repeatedly. It has to haunt me. And then once I complete it, I feel like I accomplished something. I don't want to set out and say, oh, there's an A. We're good. It's fucking stupid. No, I wanna turn it in a million times and say you fail, you fail.

And I said, okay, Roger that. And sit there and analyze what I'm doing wrong. Go to these places that people don't go to anymore because all this fucking social media is shit and everything's computerized. I wanna go to that dark place in my mind and say, okay, how are we going to get this done? I think people, the right people are happy

when they're challenged by something. Like when they're pursuing something, when they're challenged, like when they're not where they could be, when they're not who they could be. And you and I were talking about this off camera, it's like I just want everybody to understand this. This is from two people who are sort of in this space. We love helping people, we love making a difference.

But what makes us make a difference is the pursuit of who we've been becoming, these challenges, you and all the different ways. You have an in me and my way, and millions of people in their way too, like I don't want people to think, I just want to get to a place in Coolit. Because you get to that place in Coolit,

I think you're going to be miserable. You've got to still find somewhere and I want to kind of go in your head a little bit because I've not lived this and very few people have lived this. It I want to take you back there for a minute and at the end I'm going to ask you what that thing looks like next for you. But so this whole thing that you did you get out we where I can't cover the whole military I think is I want them read the book right but Then you're like hey, you really never done any of this before But this is sort of the formula of what we're talking about then then the military thing ends and then you're like

Yeah, I'm gonna go like run. I'm gonna do the bad water 135 my cardio was 20 minutes every Sunday on the elliptical trainer Okay, that was it So I'm looking at all these different races, and one comes up number one, the hardest race in the world, bad water 135. 135 mile race through death Valley. I'm like, that sounds fucking nice.

But I didn't, but it didn't describe that it was like a couple day race. I'm thinking, okay, that has to be like a fucking seven day race. Because I don't know people who run like that. So I ended up calling Chris Cosmin up, Chris Cosmin is the race director of Badwater. And he lives out here in California. He's like, hey, man, I'm like, hey, Chris, I call him up in the first conversation. I actually have all the emails in my book for me. I'm going back. He's a fucking stickler man to tell you that. So I call him up. That's a fucking stickler man to take that. So I

call him up and say hey man I'm gonna do this race. It's like have you run a hundred miles before. I'm like no. He goes well to get my race you have to do a hundred mile race and you gotta do a hundred miles and 24 hours or less. There was only two more races I could do before the deadline dropped. And so I'm like he goes you live in San Diego right? I'm like yeah. this was Wednesday I call him up on a Wednesday morning. He goes well, there's a race on Saturday Mm-hmm, and it's a it's called a San Diego one day at Hospitality point in San Diego where you run around a one mile track for 24 hours to see me miles you can get

track for 24 hours to see me miles you can get. So I'm like fuck it man, that's guy's trying to call me out. I'm gonna get this shit done. I'm a seal. I'm a bad ass. Been through Ranger School and shit. I got this hardest thing I did in my entire life, dude. Was this one race? So I go harder than getting through. Oh yeah. Wow. I was not prepared at all. So I go, I sign up for the race, I show up, I'm this big body builder looking guy, shirt off, black hat on, you know, and I, I set out. So every mile, unless he's blue lawn chair,

I had rich crackers in my outfits. That was my fucking nutrition, man. No water, no, just, my, no water. No. You're, no, no, no, no water. No I'm on I fucking know I never drink water on runs and shit. I fucking didn't know about all this shit So I go out there and I'm running I get through 50 miles. I'm gonna cut to the chase because I detail it really well book I get going I sit down at mile 70 and

buddy I Had to sat down yet. I sit down and everything falls to fuck apart Literally, man. I'm like being blood down my leg. I have some crap coming out of me and I got 30 fucking miles to go And I'm in the worst shape of my entire life. And so I won't get too deep into it, man. But I end up going back through my cookie jar and I talk about you know, my my cookie jar is basically something I'm vented about. We forget how bad ass we are when we're suffering. Because our mind just stays right there in the suffering. The cookie jars are reminder. You know how your mom needs to have the cookie jar. You know, you You know you don't know what kind of cookie you're gonna get

But it may be a oatmeal raisin maybe chocolate chocolate chip me because you know she's don't submit that motherfuck you grab one and go So my cookie jars the things out of compost they all that didn't fail that just just kept on grinding through So I take this one second I calm down. I said realize okay, man I gotta be able to stand up first, come on dizzy and lie ahead and I go through this process. And I said I might quit but not yet. I go this is the worst shit in my life. So I said I might quit because when you're not gonna quit

something yet, 30 miles to go, you're mine spasin'. Like I'm fucked up, like 30 miles a long way to go. Just fresh. I've already gone 70, I'm gonna worst shit in my life. I'm like okay, so I'm giving my give you a few miles a long way to go. Just fresh. I've already gone out 70, I'm going to work sitting my life. I'm like, okay, so I'm giving my mind some space. Because if you don't give it space, it's just going to freak out. So I'm saying, you know what, I'm going to quit,

but let me just sit here for a second and drink some water. Now, now I'm drinking water. I have my crew going over to get some fucking, you know, nutrition, some food for me. I'm getting better. So now I stand up, like, wow, maybe I stand up now because I wasn't able to.

I was all lightheaded. Now, I'm going on this track and I get to my 81 and I wasn't going to make the time. I was moving slow. You're behind time. Way behind. Okay. And this is the craziest thing in the world

and I fucking shit you not. I'm in the worst shape of my entire life ever. I've never even been close to this again. Never. My 81, I'm not gonna make the time as slow as I was moving. And when your body in mind connect, I think this is the only time I've ever done this. Okay You become a cyborg hmm. I End up running 20 miles at about a 10 15 mile

And get done with that race. I did a hundred one miles and 19 hours and six minutes and to this day And I don't and I don't detail it well with you, but in the book I do, I learned more from that 19 hours and six minutes than I did in all three hell weeks. Ranger School, and this is months. Ranger School was 60 something days, hell week, and all the buds and six months. I was in buds for like 18 months.

I went through Delta Four Selection twice, you know, pull up records. I learned more in that one race that I wasn't prepared for, that 19 hours brought me from other misery, happiness, failure, success, depression. I went through every fucking emotion in the world in 19 hours. You should hear how the race ended. Then I really took a shit on myself. I got in that

blue chair when the race ended and I literally it just was over. I was in the worst shape of my life. I got in the tub and they put the shower or she put the shower on me. The shower has hit me as I'm laying in the tub in the fetal position. And what came out of me looked like dirt as I'm peeing. It's not even blood. This is this is dark brown dirt. And I'm sitting there and she calls my mom and my mom has a doctor friend over her house.

And this guy's one of the best doctors in the country. And he's like, you need him to the doctor now. So what I'm about to tell you, he's gonna fuck you up. So I'm sitting there and I think I'm gonna die and worship my life. And I'm in this tub and I'm Jack Cameron and this hot water hitting me. And I'm literally in the worst pain,

my shins, my feet, I'm broken. And I'm sitting, I'm cramping up and she said, we are going to the doctor. You know, your mom's worried about, like, we've never seen this for my life. And I go, I'm not going anywhere. I want to sit here and enjoy this pain. And I know the listeners here and they're saying, man, you're a fucking nut. No, I'm not. Would I got a chance to experience in that 19 hours and six minutes of my life was something I didn't want any painkillers. This was proof positive. What I was feeling is what I just did.

I did something without training, without coaching, without cheering staff, without any knowledge. I took a raw human being with no training whatsoever, put him out in a condition and just through this alone, got through it. And I sat there and I was like, this is, it was the best feeling I've ever had, it will ever have in my entire, I was in the worst pain in my life, and it was the best feeling I ever had in my life, not because the pain I was in, by the pain was confirmation of my God. Did I just do that?

Wow. And I had completed hell of a week's, but that right there was like, don't take this from me man and and it was confirmation proof positive that this young kid that came from shit that wasn't shit that lied and cheated for I was now the truth. I was now the truth. I was a Navy SEAL. I went through Army Ranger School as Honor Man. I went through all this shit. I was truth. I became truth. There was no

more lie. And what's funny about all that is the people in my life who were in my life when I was bad. and I call it bad when bad, I had a fucked up way to go, man. They want to, they're still out there, and it was a fuck I'm saying, I ain't gonna drop names on them. They want to take me back there. They're mad that I'm here.

Yes. They want to still make me out to be what I was. Right, right. They don't like the fact that they're still where the fuck they're at. That's right. They hate that. So on this journey in life there's a lot of people who are fucked up right now. On the journey there's always be that motherfucker in the sewer you came from. That's grabbing that your fucking ankle as

you're leaving that sewer. That's when it drags you right to fuck back down because you figured it out. They're not willing to figure it out. It's not supposed to figure out. The only thing to figure out is this. And everybody has a different equation. My equation is different than yours. My equation was very different than most people. And it's not about being sadistic. It was just about that that right there was kind of like the moment of my life where I realized I don't like to say that I've arrived because you never had that I've arrived mentality because you stopped. But that was the moment that I realized that I was the truth.

I've done a lot of shows, but I don't go back and watch them that much. You know, I'll watch them a couple times when we do them. I'll go back and watch and listen to this last 10 or 15 minutes of we talked about several hundred times. That's the most incredible thing I've heard. I'll just tell you straight up, that's the most incredible, beautiful, magnificent thing I've heard since I've been doing the show. Thank you for me for that.

I appreciate that. I want to, that's just silly, crazy, awesome. I want to finish on the light note. Okay. I was saving this for the end because it's just ironic. So I'm a rocky fan. Oh.

But this is going to trip you out. I actually got chills. I was reading about you in prepping because I've known about you for a long time. And like, I gotta have something in common with this dude. Right? I gotta have something in common with him. And so, Slice a friend of mine too now,

which is really weird, but I'm a Rocky fan, but I'm really a Rocky one fan. But not only am I a Rocky one fan, I've watched the 14th round. See? Now my two are coming. Yeah, I've watched the 14th round of the Rocky one movie. I've venture to say I can't count them, but it's got to be more than a thousand times in my life. Easy. And so when I was a little boy and all the turmoil of my life and the dysfunction in my family and the things I want to do achieve. I learned to visualize in my life by watching Rocky.

That was my visualization, the fitness part, the training, the overcommon stuff. There's just this little part of me that's like a little mini-Rocky in there. It's why I love working out. For me, it was the way he would take punishment. It's at the end of the 14th when he cuts me, and Mick Mick and Mick Cuts him, right? So they're gonna think we're both just crazy. But have you watched that a couple times? And what did it do for you? I just wanna finish on this,

because this taught me to visualize and dream. There were no, my family's not like years, but there's no dreaming or visualizations or motivation or go do something special. it was nothing like that in my house I had Rocky and mainly Rocky one I live them all but like the Rocky three running on the beach scene All that but Rocky won 14th round at least a thousand times. What about you? No shit at least 20,000

Why is that? Yes. I've dissected that two minutes and some seconds, two minutes and 13, 14, 15 seconds, at least 20,000 times. When I did the pull up record, and I finally broke it. Took you three times. Yep. The 4,030 in 17 hours, I listened to one song for 17 hours,

and it was going to distance. Two minutes and 13, something 14 seconds. On a loop. On a loop, but first, the guy, his guy named Nandor, he kept playing out loud for everybody. And I brought my own little iPad, I only ever listened to music, but I was failing so many times at this record

I had to go to that place So I say, you know, I don't want to bore you all anymore with the same song because I had a crew of people there filming it You know because they had to be documented So I didn't want them to be there for 17 hours listening to the same song because it's born So I put in my ears. Listen the whole time. But I'm gonna step further in that round When Rocky gets knocked down and Mickey's saying stay down stay down and he's getting up Apollo Creed thinks that he knocked them out

So I've this thing called taking souls Okay, and when you see Apollo Creed turns around arms in the air. I fucking got him Do you see Apollo Creek turns around, arms in the air, I fucking got him. Do you see when he turns around and he sees because he Apollo Creek knows I was fucking this dude up. He kept coming after me and I finally knocked him down. When he turns around and looks at Rocky and he says and watches him get up and Rocky gets his gloves and most of them to come to him. Yes. A Apollo pushes head down and this goes like this. It's not so much Rocky getting up. That's big for me.

A Apollo crease face became every motherfucker that verbally and non-verbally looked at me because you know that looked at me when you think that you know they may not tell you your piece of shit and you're nobody but it looked at you almost like you poor thing I got them all I got them all now for you know that that that little wheel you have everybody's name on it and phone numbers are shit. I got them on them and fucking my head. And I spin that bitch every motherfucking day. And I know right now, whether you hate me, love me, I'm a fucking dick, I'm a dick, I'm a dad, whatever you want to think, I made it.

And I know all of you motherfuckers are looking just like Apollo Creed did because I just kept getting the fuck up And all I wanted people to do in my life, I'm getting about the fucking money I'm getting about the fucking fame. I'm carrying all my followers go away tomorrow I Wanted a lot of people that doubted me to look like Apollo Creed did in that 14th round because I got back up Repeatedly and when you keep on getting back up like that No matter how strong the person is is beating the shit out of you. They eventually Look at you and say you know what I'm tired

And I just want people to be tired Just be tired. I want to make you tired Because I just continue. So that's that movie, that movie changed how I looked at life. Me too. It did. Me too. I'm blown away because the part of the scene, thank you, the part of the scene, anybody that knows me real well, all my life, I want people to give me that. He gives them that like, what the, what are you? What the hell? And I wanted, whether it was a coach or dudes I grew up with

or whatever it was at point just go, what are you? That's it. And I can tell you, I don't do that with a lot of people. I do that with you. Like, and I'm a tremendous amount of respect for you. Thank you. And I'm proud to know you now. Well, I really appreciate that. And I didn't want to win. I still don't want to win for some reason.

I don't care about winning. For some, I just want to go to distance. And that's a true story, man. And so it's a powerful movie, man. But thank you for your kind words and what you said is I'm very humbled by that. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what the next thing is for you and I'm I really am because This is nowhere near the distance right you're nowhere near right and so I'm really excited and if I can never help with any of it I'm certainly here for you as a friend. I appreciate me. I'm a big faith believer man Even though people look at my mouth and say I can you believe in God?

I'm sorry, man, we live on earth. And sometimes life is fucking hard. Sure. You don't mean you don't believe in shit. But I know for a fact, as fucked up as my life has been, to be where I'm at today, there's obviously more.

I'm obviously a fucking messenger of some sort, because I don't fit the mold, man. I'm obviously a messenger, so some sort because I don't fit the mold man. I'm obviously a messenger So all your life's preparing you for this moment. I'm excited for the next one. I believe that. Thank you for today. Thank you I appreciate you for meeting you. Thank you. Everybody I don't have any words you heard it or saw it and so I know your life was moved You know all I ask you to do is share this show with somebody that you care about somebody you believe in somebody that you want to see When reminder every day on Instagram we run the max out two-minute drill. You get a chance to engage with me. There's three ways to win. You make a comment on a post, you make a comment on a comment,

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