THE ED MYLETT SHOW - What It Really Takes to Reach Your Highest Self (My Ultimate Message)

Episode Date: July 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Hey everyone welcome to my weekend special I hope you enjoy the show. Be sure to follow the Ed Mylett show on Apple and Spotify. Links are in the show notes. You'll never miss an episode that way. Here's a clip of Ed Mylett appearing on Impact Theory with host Tom Bilyeu. For people that feel like they're wasting their time, they're not getting the results they want, what is one thing that they could be doing right now that would turn things around for them? Well, actually doing one more.
Starting point is 00:02:04 So we always talk, you and I both, about self-confidence and the fact that building self-confidence is the process of keeping the promises you make to yourself. And if you lack self-confidence, you've got a relationship and reputation with yourself that's not very favorable. And so the baseline way to get self-confidence
Starting point is 00:02:20 is you keep the promises you make to yourself. But in life, as you know, we don't get like our goal, we get by 25% of our goals. But we ultimately always get our standards. Long term, you will get your standards. So the question becomes, what's the standard need to be then? And that standard needs to be,
Starting point is 00:02:32 you keep the promises you make to yourself and one more. So if you're gonna do 30 minutes on the treadmill every day, you don't do 30 minutes, you do the 30 minutes, you do one more. You're gonna make 10 contacts in a day, you don't make 10 contacts in a day, you do the 10 contacts and you make one more. Now what happens is you start stacking up those one mores.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You're gonna tell Lisa you love her every day, you don't just tell her that, you tell her one more time every single day. So you start stacking up mathematically all of these one mores. You've just done more so you're better, but you've changed the standard of your life. And you've built the superhuman type self-confidence
Starting point is 00:03:02 that I normally do what I say I'm gonna do. I do one more than I'm saying I'm gonna do, and that's something almost nobody's willing to do, so I'm gonna get things almost nobody's gonna get. So that's one thing initially everybody can do. Yeah, so you are one of the sweetest guys on planet Earth, like in real life. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But also in real life, you're one of the most intense guys, which I really respond to. So my journey as an entrepreneur was toughening up. I was super weak as a kid, way whiny, like definitely did not push myself and my parents loved them to death, but they didn't know how to push me either. And so I really, when I went to college,
Starting point is 00:03:36 my mom assumed I was going to fail because I was so profoundly lazy. And so hearing you in the book talk about like pushing to the extreme, like you actually use the word extreme multiple times And that to expand your capabilities you have to go into the extreme talk to me about that because right now I feel like that's an incredibly unpopular message. It is and at the same time it is true Thank you. And by the way, you talked about on my show
Starting point is 00:04:00 So there's a part of the book where I talk about extremity expands capacity. Until you push something to the extreme, you don't really stretch your capacity to do it. And so for me, I already know, you know, at this point in my life, we know what we're capable of at one point. So how do we change what we're capable of? And that's with extremity. That's with pushing it to the extreme. I have another chapter in the book where I call it, Do One More Inconvenience. This is something that if we could train ourselves to do, our entire lives would change, which is that do the inconvenient or difficult thing in your day or in your life. Human nature is to avoid that.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You call it being lazy, but it's just to avoid the inconvenient. Napoleon Hill says in Think and Grow Rich, which I love, he says, on the other type of temporary pain, you are introduced to your other self, and that other self produces another life. So what we have to change I think to some extent is our relationship with pain. I'm willing to pursue pain. I'm willing to pursue discomfort and do the inconvenient thing because on the other
Starting point is 00:04:56 side of that I have extended my capacity. I've literally changed who I am by getting on the other side of that. And so for me, I am always trying to find the inconvenient thing to do because it's not my nature either. I have to build all these habits like you do because left to my own devices, man, I'm Netflix and pizza and Cheetos. I really would be like, people say to me,
Starting point is 00:05:18 man, you just seem so hardcore. People think this about you as well. No, actually I'm not. And so I've had to develop these mindsets, the strategies in the book, the ways I think, my habits'm not. And so I've had to develop these mindsets, the strategies in the book, the ways I think, my habits. There's a whole chapter on how to build habits in the book because I'm not that way. I'm not overly disciplined, but I've learned to sort of change my relationship with pain, even in the gym, but even in a given day. You know, for me, I chase the
Starting point is 00:05:40 thing that's inconvenient because I know on the other side of that is where all the stuff lies that I want. And so that's this old notion of, well, get out of your comfort zone. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about pursuing the inconvenient in a given day because that's the pathway to your bliss. That's the pathway to your happiness. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Why is that super counterintuitive? Well, it's the pathway to your bliss and your happiness because when we're doing things that aren't convenient on a very regular basis, there's a part of our spirit, I believe, in our soul that knows we were born to do something great, that knows we were born to grow. And when we begin to settle in our lives, it's like I had a conversation this morning with a friend of mine who's a parent. They're having some parenting issues and they're like, well, yeah, you grew up with an alcoholic
Starting point is 00:06:21 dad. So that was child neglect. And my parents got divorced. That was child neglect. But I'm not neglecting my kids. This is just this morning, really good friend of mine. I said, I think you should rethink that. And I said, there's an insidious form
Starting point is 00:06:33 of neglecting your children. And she goes, well, what is it? And I said, it's not pursuing your potential in your dreams. That's a form of neglect of your children. You're installing the software in them that it's OK to settle. Because they're watching you. Because they're watching you. Because they're watching you.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And almost everything in life is caught, not taught. You don't teach lessons to people, they catch lessons from you. And so you're neglecting that child when you're not pursuing your potential, your bliss, or and or your dreams in your life. That's a form of neglect. So if it's neglecting a child when we do it,
Starting point is 00:07:02 it's a form of self-neglect when we do it to ourselves. And so that's why it's counterintuitive not to do inconvenient things, but the reason it's the pathway to bliss and happiness is intuitively we know we're neglecting our spirit. We know we're neglecting our soul. We know we're neglecting our potential when we're not chasing it, and there's no way that we can simultaneously be blissful and at the same time know that we're somehow treating ourselves less than we're worthy of. Hello my friend, you know that I believe success requires you to see failure as the ultimate learning tool. Success requires you to be disciplined and gritty and to never ever quit on your dreams. I say all of that because one thing is certain, the road to achieving your goal is not smooth or linear, I wish it was, but it's not. It's gonna be bumpy, sometimes scary, I say all of that because one thing is certain, the road to achieving your goal is not smooth or linear,
Starting point is 00:07:45 I wish it was, but it's not. It's gonna be bumpy, sometimes scary, some days you'll take two steps forward and slide 10 steps back. And that's why success also requires you to know how to pull yourself out of a rut and get unstuck fast. Life is short, you can't be messing around with your goals. You've got to make progress every single day.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So I've pulled a class from Impact Theory University called How to Get Unstuck, which you can watch for free with the link on your screen or by clicking below. When you join me for that free preview of that workshop from Impact Theory University, I'm going to teach you my strategy for how to understand exactly where you need to be going, how to identify the obstacle that's blocking you, and the best way to make the most progress towards
Starting point is 00:08:30 that goal and keep your momentum. All right, click that link and let's get to work. All right, I'll see you on the inside. I have a growing hypothesis. I'm super curious. So when I hear people like you talk about this stuff, I'm gonna say 99 times out of 100, there's been a physical transformation that they've gone through.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Obviously your physique isn't saying, I know what it would take to achieve your physique. I don't have your physique not because I don't want it, because I don't wanna put that level of energy into it. I'm honest with myself about that. But I have transformed my physique. And so I know what that takes. And that I didn't think a lot about it at the time,
Starting point is 00:09:07 but that coincided with me getting better at being an entrepreneur, because I realized, I saw what you were saying, that as I did one more, as I pushed myself, as I did the things that were inconvenient, as I reached for the extreme, as I began to model myself after something other people said was crazy, right? Oh, that guy's too big.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Oh, what are you doing? That's crazy. But I really got obsessed with it. And in doing that and going to the gym and pushing myself and being uncomfortable, I remember one time getting trapped under a weight and I was like, fuck, I don't, how am I gonna get out of this?
Starting point is 00:09:40 And by being in those situations over and over and over, you begin to realize, oh my God, like I actually change as a result of this. Which then lets you believe that you can change your mind in the same way. How important do you think it is for people to deal with the body, to push themselves out of a transformation there?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Well, brother, I love you. Because we think so similarly. Catalyst for change for me all my life has been in my body. And the reason for that is it's something that I actually have some measure of control over. I can't control the external result. I can't control every time how someone's gonna respond to me, what the market's doing, whatever it might be.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I can control, like you and I were talking off camera, what I'm putting in here, what I'm putting in this pie hole every day. I can control my amount of hydration. I can control the training in my life. And so for me, the catalyst for change, frankly, I was 221 pounds big and not fat, but I knew the book was coming out
Starting point is 00:10:32 and I was writing the book. And the catalyst for me to get in the most peak state I could do is to do something extreme. And so the extreme thing I did is I said, I'm gonna weigh 180 pounds in 90 days. And I got down to 177. And I did that through intermittent fasting, caloric restriction, changing my cardio,
Starting point is 00:10:48 but it was an extreme. While you were working on the book? While I was. And the reason I did it is I knew that if I could transform the internal parts of me, that the external results I was gonna produce would be that much more extraordinary. And so I'm constant.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Just getting the chills. Yeah, well, by the way, and you've done it as well. It's not like I'm gonna do this every single month of my life or even every single year of my life. But to your point, if you're sitting there and you're thinking, I can't change things, it's like, I don't have the capital, I don't have the relationships, I don't have the this or the that. You do have a body. And you can change that. There's things you can do to move it differently, treat it differently, potentially be more kind to it. One thing I'm doing, I'm 51 years old, man. I've never stretched in my life. I've never done yoga in my life. These joints and tendons are sick of me beating them up. And so one of the reasons I got a little lighter, a little smaller, a little bit less taxing on it, and I'm giving myself the gift of great stretching, great yoga, I'm doing massage now,
Starting point is 00:11:38 I'm doing things to be kinder to my body as well. And this may sound really hokey and cheesy. I find myself, this is a strange thing to word it, but I find myself being a little more gentle with myself. When I'm so aggressive in the gym all the time, you know, there's a transfer of that even in my life where I'm so aggressive and intense on myself, which I love that part of me.
Starting point is 00:12:00 But like I've had 51 years of that. And so now I'm like, you know what? I'm being a little more kind to my body, a little bit more gentle with it. And I find myself, you know what? I'm being a little more kind to my body, a little bit more gentle with it. And I find myself, you know, when I give a speech, usually I'll beat myself up. I could have done, you do the same thing. I should have done this, I should have done that.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Leave a meeting, leave a podcast. Why didn't you say this? And I've just beat myself up all my life, just like I do in the gym. Recently, I find as I treat my body differently, I'm treating me differently. I'm like, that's okay, bro. You got the next one.
Starting point is 00:12:23 That wasn't so bad. I'm sure you still made a difference. I've never said those words to myself in my life because I've always thought if I let go of this beating myself up, that's part of my recipe, part of my formula. The truth is I've probably been successful in spite of the way I've treated myself, not because of it. That's interesting. I don't know that I agree. And as you're describing that, I'm so intrigued how you're gonna answer this question. Do you think that you can do that now because you have pushed yourself so far, so hard,
Starting point is 00:12:52 or do you wish that you had gone back and done things the way you're doing them now back then? I wish I had done both. I wish I've had the extremity part of my life where I'm pushing myself to that point of past what I think I'm capable of. But then I also wish that I wasn't so hard on myself man. Like I've spent a lot of years of my life, I've never really said this before, I've spent a lot of years of my life I think at my own expense, it
Starting point is 00:13:17 makes me emotional to say it, I don't even know where that's coming from, at my own expense in the service of other people. And I think I had this delusion that I had to be almost suffering in order to produce bliss for other people. And some of that software was probably installed to me when I was young with my dad being an alcoholic when I was young. And so no brother, I know I could have pushed myself and been one intense beast and still been a little bit more kind to myself.
Starting point is 00:13:46 There's a more beautiful and elegant way to get to the results that I wanted. I totally know what you're saying, that there's different seasons of your life and it's easy to say when you got a couple hundred mill in the bank and all that other stuff, like, you know what, I'm gonna stretch now. I'm gonna get a massage.
Starting point is 00:13:59 It's a little bit different than that. So one, I think your insight about what you learned to do to be the peacemaker in your family, to read your dad, to figure out where he was, and that you were still so generous to him as well as to the rest of your family, to take his hand to, and you talk about this in the book, so I highly encourage people to read it,
Starting point is 00:14:20 but you would take his hand and try to shift his mood, and that really trained you to be somebody that could read people and help change their state, which I think is incredible. But the way that I see it is that you've earned, you've earned the right, and I'm gonna back up in a second, but you've earned the right to get to that position because you know you can fall back on discipline,
Starting point is 00:14:41 the habits, all that stuff. Because what I'm thinking is, okay, if I'm 24 and I'm encountering Ed Mylett for the first time, and I have this glimmer of like, ooh, maybe I can do something more with my life, that guy really does, and this is projecting because this is where I was, but that guy probably really does need to go hard first.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And he needs first to learn to be tough, to be a badass. Like for me to transform my physique, I had to imagine my wife being physically assaulted. It was the only way I could show up and put in the work. Got leverage on yourself. Exactly. And if somebody had been at that moment telling me, no, no, no, you need to be kind or gentler,
Starting point is 00:15:19 it's like on balance, you're right. And if you're talking to me when I'm in my 50s, 100%. But in the beginning, I wouldn't have been able to be so nuanced. And so I guess what I'm saying is, with what you've done and accomplished, you understand the nuance, you understand how important it is.
Starting point is 00:15:37 To do all of that and to sacrifice yourself doesn't make sense. I think you're right. I think we agree. So I think you have to know yourself. What's your default place? My default position has been all my life to try to earn things. I conflated when I was young, the only time I got love from my dad is if I achieved something.
Starting point is 00:15:55 If I did something, if I dad I got an A, dad I hit a home run, you know, dad I won the spelling bee, you know. So I conflated achievement and pushing myself with love. So I know me, I know that part of me is sort of my default place to go. My default place is to do this. I think you have to know yourself. I think if your default is to not do those things, then yeah, giving yourself a break and being kinder and gentler is the absolute worst thing
Starting point is 00:16:17 that you could do to yourself. In my case, man, it's been a lifetime. I was never a child. I was never a little boy. That five-year-old, I was literally not a child. My dad would, you know this from the book, five years old, I got two skills in life, man. One is I can communicate,
Starting point is 00:16:33 the other one is I can be present and read people. The present and read people is really simple. I had three sisters and a mom, and when my dad would walk through that front door at five years old, this beautiful little boy that I was, I would have to look up at this man and quickly figure out was he drunk or sober? What was his body language? Like how was he walking? Was his tie-tie? Was he slurring his words? If he was drunk, Dad, sisters need to get upstairs, Mom go take a
Starting point is 00:16:54 shower. And then the man of the house, me at that time, would take over and like you said, grab my dad's hand and change his state. Dad, I hit a home run today. Dad, I got a 96 on my spelling test. And so I never afforded myself or was afforded to be a boy in my life, to ever really have a bunch of peace or bliss in that life. And my dad got sober and you know that, and he was my best friend, but that part of my life was taken from me. I never had it.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So I don't have to be, I don't have to worry about Ed Myletts, you know, drive or ambition or any of those other things. I got to worry about this dude hurting himself, you know, metaphorically, but actually theoretically too, in any possible way. And so you just got to know yourself. If your default is you'll cool it, then you know what? The worst thing you could do is give yourself a break.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You're wired like me and you beat yourself to a pulp all the time and you think you can do that. And at some point in your life, you'll fray and there's just a part of your brain, man. There's just, there's the neural parts of our brain are telling us, man, can you give me a little dopamine? Can you give me a little hit of something blissful? Can I celebrate this a little bit?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Can I be a little bit more kind to myself? Because if you don't do that, eventually you've trained your brain that you don't wanna do those things. Yeah, I think learning to love yourself is critical. I always tell people in my back pocket, I have detachment at all times, like a Buddhist style detachment.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah. Because at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is how you feel about yourself when you're by yourself. Success, money, all those things ultimately are irrelevant. If you hate yourself and you're rich, you're still gonna have a terrible life. You got it. So I think that's really important.
Starting point is 00:18:24 There's an idea that was introduced to me by Jordan Peterson that blew me away. In fact, the first time it got teased was Frost's a hobby. Do you know him? Yeah. Okay, so for people that don't know, he trained George St. Pierre. He's an incredible MMA guy.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And I had the very good fortune of meeting him, interviewing him and actually rolling Jiu-Jitsu with him. The one and only time I've ever done jujitsu was with him, was fucking insane. Really, really cool experience. And he was saying this idea that Jordan Peterson ended up putting really concrete words around, which is that he wanted to, God, how do you put it?
Starting point is 00:19:00 Like basically I want to be able to choose kindness. And he said, to choose kindness, I have to be able to choose kindness. And he said, to choose kindness, I have to be capable of great violence. Because if somebody comes and tries to push me around, I can be kind because I know I can defeat. Love it. And so Jordan Peterson was like struggling with this idea of the meek shall inherit the earth,
Starting point is 00:19:16 which is the man of faith you understand very well. In fact, you say in the book, if I'm not mistaken. And Jordan is like, I've always struggled with that idea because most of us interpret meek as weak. And he said to the idea of the weaker are gonna inherit the earth. He's like, nothing tells me that that is true. And in fact, the weak get pushed around.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And he said, but he looked up a more ancient interpretation of the word meek and it meant to be capable of extraordinary violence, but to keep your sword sheathed. And he said, that person really will inherit the earth because they can defend themselves and they're choosing kindness, compassion, whatever, but they actually have the choice between I could fight and win,
Starting point is 00:19:57 or I can defuse the situation because I know that I'm capable that if it breaks down, it can go to that place. Brother, see, you're so brilliant. When you introduced me, you could have said a lot of different things about me, but the thing that you said was something along the lines of my kindness and my genuineness.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And the only reason that that stands out with me, with people, I don't know that I'm more kind or gentle than the average person. That only stands out because I do appear to be so strong. Right? I do have those features physically. And you are actually intense. Right, and I'm actually a super intense dude. And so you're so right.
Starting point is 00:20:33 By the way, the things I love about human beings are their contrast, are their complexities. And so I always say all the time, my best friends are like you. They have tremendous amounts of self-confidence with this under Unbelievable abundance of humility and they know how to tow the nuance of those two things They somehow tow that line beautifully. We all have friends that are tremendously self-confident have no humility. They're not curious. They're not growing
Starting point is 00:20:57 They're probably gonna burn out. They're probably gonna have to make an ego mistake. That's gonna hurt them Why we have only humility work so well. Well, humility keeps me curious Humility keeps me connected. Lack of humility breaks a connection with another person. Lack of humility, it causes you to not wanna learn and grow like you identify yourself as a learner. Only somebody with a tremendous amount of humility who knows they don't know everything
Starting point is 00:21:22 would want to be a learner. And so the very things that I think cause me to grow and expand are the very things that keep me humble. People ask me often, now that you're 51, you wrote this book, there's all these things in there that you know, what have you learned as you're 51? And truly what I've learned more than anything is what I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:40 That the older I get, I realize how little I do know. I can write a book that's 280 pages and pretty much everything I know is in that book, but the vast majority of things of life I don't know. And so I don't also want to have friends that just have humility that have no self-confidence because then you're dragging them through life all the time. They're the energy drainers of your life, that humble kind friend of yours who never believes in themselves, never does anything. You're always trying to fill them up. I don't want to be around them all the time either. I want people that have both of those things because I think they're the most successful
Starting point is 00:22:10 and blissful people at the same time. And there's a really cool quote about that. "'As the island of my knowledge grows, so does the shore of my ignorance.'" Oh, God, that's beautiful. Right? Yeah, it's really good. It is weird how you can really feel like you know virtually everything when you're young, which is what makes teenagers so brutal.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And then as you get older, you're like, whoa, I've been kicked in the face so many times. I remember the first time somebody said I had humility, I was taken aback because to me, it didn't feel like humility. It felt like self-evidently recognizing what is true. Like I've just failed way more than I've succeeded. And so you're just like, God, I'm not trying to be humble.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I am just so paranoid that I don't have something right because so often I thought I was right only to realize, whoa, like I was completely misjudging the situation. That's verbatim how I feel. And I can tell you, one of my favorite things to hear from a friend or even a business partner is, I was wrong. I was wrong. I've changed my mind.
Starting point is 00:23:13 In fact, I wish there was more of that in politics, don't you? Hey, that was me. I was wrong and I've changed my mind. Man, you'd endear yourself to me so quickly if you would do that. And so someone who never changes their mind, someone who never acknowledges
Starting point is 00:23:27 that they're wrong about something, is someone that I don't really wanna be around to spend a lot of time with, nor would I want any leadership position in any of my businesses. And so it's a really big deal to be able to say that and to change one's mind is one of the most profound things you can do.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I agree. Why do you think it's so hard for people? I think they think it's a weakness. I really do. And I think you have it's a weakness. I really do. And I think you have to have a tremendous amount of strength and confidence to actually say that I'm wrong. It takes both. There's humility in saying I was wrong,
Starting point is 00:23:50 but there's also confidence. I think there's a third thing that's the most terrifying and it's why this continues to be a problem. Let me know what you think about this. You also have to be good. Like here's the scary thing. If you want to succeed in life, you talk about this in the book,
Starting point is 00:24:05 you talk about Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich, that book also changed my life. I have the chills again. I remember where I was when I was reading that book and it hit me because he says, like in the first whatever 40 pages, I've told you the answer. Like the whole reason I'm writing this book
Starting point is 00:24:19 is on every single page of this book. I was like, what has he said? Because I was like, where are we going with this? And the only thing he had said on every page was, if you believe you can, you can. And if you think you can't, you can't. And I was like, oh my God. And so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 But as you go to great lengths in the book to point out, your actions also have to line up. You're never going to be able to think your way to success. I love Think and Grow Rich. It's my favorite book other than my scriptures. But I got to be honest with you, you don't just think and get rich, you got to do stuff. The question that becomes, what do I need to think your way to success. I love Think and Grow Rich. It's my favorite book other than my scriptures, but I gotta be honest with you, you don't just think and get rich, you gotta do stuff. The question then becomes, what do I need to think
Starting point is 00:24:49 and what do I need to do simultaneously or in congruency that produced the result? And that's why I did the things that I, I had the things in the book. Second chapter, as you know, and I know you're a huge Matrix fan, I like, I'm writing this chapter, this is Tom's chapter. I was like, this is the greatest chapter ever written.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I love this. But one of the points that I make in the book is being able to slow things down and get into bullet time. But there's two things I love about The Matrix. One, I think that's an absolute example of the reticular activating system in the brain. And so you do have to be good. But the question in life becomes,
Starting point is 00:25:18 listen, I believe your one decision, one relationship, one meeting, one show, one thought, one new emotion, potentially away from changing your entire life. I've proven this in my life, so have you. And the question then becomes, how do you find them? And this RAS is super powerful in our brains because it's the mechanism that filters the entire world to us, it literally reveals to us our reality.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Just like you just said, it reveals our reality. I just bought a Tesla, I drove it here today. God, I like what Musk is doing. I'm like, I'm gonna get one of these Teslas. Man, every freaking where I go, I see Teslas now. Red one, babe, hey, there's a white one. There's a plaid, three lanes over, other side of the freeway.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Babe, black Tesla just drove by. She's like, how in the world do you know this? Because it's become important to me. And it's now in my filter. It's now a part of my RAS. That's why when you're in a loud room, all the auditory sounds, someone doesn't even say it loud. Tom, you can hear your own name in a room
Starting point is 00:26:09 because it's become important to you. See, the question in life is, can you make your goals, your ambitions, the emotions you want, the thoughts, the relationships you need to become your Teslas? And if they become your Teslas, things slow down. The other part of the matrix I love, I'll come up for air, is Neo is the one. He's the one. And when my wife and I were little, I literally, I'll come up for air, is Neo is the one. He's the one.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And when my wife and I were little, I literally live on the beach now, brother, that we used to walk on. In high school we were dating and we'd walk on this beach and go, babe, I'm gonna get you one of these beach houses. We're gonna get one of these beach houses. She goes, you are? I go, yep.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And I have no idea how and I go home, I go, dad, who are these freaking people? Who lives there? He's like, I don't know who the heck they are, but they don't work with me. And I figured something out. When you find a family or a person that's happy and successful or either one,
Starting point is 00:26:53 somewhere back in their lineage, they weren't. That family wasn't. And then the one shows up. The one. And that one changes that family forever. It changes the way they live, the way the world shows up, the one. And that one changes that family forever. It changes the way they live, the way the world treats them, the way they think they're the Neo.
Starting point is 00:27:10 They're the one in their family. And in my family, I'm the one, I'm the one. I didn't like it, I didn't hope for it, I fought for it, I fought for it. I did the things in this book to become the one in my family. And if you're listening to this or watching it, why don't you consider the fact
Starting point is 00:27:24 that potentially maybe you're the one. And watching it, why don't you consider the fact that potentially maybe you're the one and the fact that you don't think you are or that you're not qualified to be the one or don't have the background or the skills or the confidence probably makes you the one because that was me. Now what, what does the one do? What do they introduce to the family that changes it so profoundly? I think they introduce a different way of thinking, Tom. I think they introduce a belief system that the world doesn't dictate the terms to our family anymore. We're going to
Starting point is 00:27:49 dictate the terms to the world and that we have some measure of control over the results of our lives. I think most people go through their lives thinking they have no measure of control and I had a huge breakthrough brother two weeks ago after I wrote the book and as you know as I wrote the book when my dad died I thought I need to write this book because my dad taught me all these profound lessons of one more and I'm the next to go. I don't know if it's this week or 60 years from now but I'm the next to go and I woke up about three o'clock in the morning 3 15 exactly and I woke up Christian I said babe wake up and I was in tears this was just two weeks ago. I said babe someone helped daddy. and I was in tears. This was just two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I said, babe, someone helped daddy. I'm 51, bro. My dad was sober for 35 years. This never occurred to me. She goes, what? I said, someone helped my dad. She goes, what do you mean? Someone helped my dad in his darkest moment of his life.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Get sober. In some coffee shop or quiet place when my dad was down on his knees losing his family some precious human being Helped my dad. I don't know who they are They changed our entire family Max and Bella's lives are changed because this person that we don't know Millions of people I've reached because this person helped my dad. She goes that's amazing. I said, here's what's more amazing What qualified them to help my dad? Their shame, their mess, that they were also a drug addict and alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:29:14 This precious soul, the things that they're most ashamed of, that they think disqualified them the most in life, is the very thing that qualified them to help my dad in the most important moment of his life, is where their giftedness, their experience, their shame, their setbacks is what qualified them to change my life and my dad's life in this dark space. I've been in personal development, my dad's been sober forever, it never occurred to me. The mess you have in your life, the things you are most ashamed of and embarrassed by that you think are the most insignificant that disqualify you the most are probably the very things that will qualify you to connect with another human being in your business or your personal life to change their life and don't ever underestimate the ripple effect. They were just helping some man get sober in some dark space in his life, never knowing the one was his son.
Starting point is 00:30:01 in some dark space in his life, never knowing the one was his son. Never knowing that this whole existence of my family was changed, not just by me being the one, not just by my dad's decision, but by a completely flawed person. Remember, think about this person, some point they were stealing from their family,
Starting point is 00:30:18 driving drunk, did things they're completely ashamed of in those states. That was the experience that qualified them to change my dad's life. So if you're listening to this or watching it, stop discounting yourself. Stop carrying these bags of your life of the things you're embarrassed or ashamed of
Starting point is 00:30:32 or that you think are insignificant that don't amount to anything. Those are the things you, precious you, that could change another precious human being's life in a moment where they need you the most. And if you don't believe you're qualified, if you don't believe you can do it, you're gonna miss those moments in your life.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And your entire existence here wasn't what it was supposed to be. All right, my friend, I have a big announcement. My incredible and talented wife, Lisa, is about to launch her new book, Radical Confidence. In it, she has managed to perfectly capture the process
Starting point is 00:31:05 of how to go from feeling lost and insecure to taking control of your life and doing amazing things despite feeling fear. Sometimes a lot of fear. Now let me tell you, nobody knows Lisa better than me, but when I read Radical Confidence for the first time and heard her describe what it was like for her to go from having these big exciting dreams as a kid to then as an adult scheduling her life around the TV shows that she wanted to watch or how lonely and isolated she felt instead of pursuing her dreams. It was brutal for me. I would never say though that it was worth it for her to go through all of that just so that she could write something down that allows
Starting point is 00:31:41 others to avoid it but I will say that at least she was able to capture the strategies that she used to break out of that rut, find her voice and begin doing incredible things despite her insecurities and fears that she wasn't going to be good enough to achieve great things. Order your copy today, because if you act now, you can claim the bonuses that Lisa has created for you
Starting point is 00:32:02 at radicalconfidence.com. Then, once you've done that, we'll get back to today's episode. All right guys, read the book and get ready to be the hero of your own life. Peace out. That's really powerful. Isn't it crazy?
Starting point is 00:32:15 It is really crazy. Now, how do you, so one, I hope that people actually listen to you because people do discount themselves. They do things or have things happen to them that they're not proud of, that they think define who they are and they never allow themselves
Starting point is 00:32:28 to bring something beautiful to the world again, which is an absolute tragedy. So if the one is bringing this new way of thinking, if the person that thinks they are the most disqualified is able to channel that and make somebody's life better. How do they turn that into like something concrete that they can articulate? How do they turn it into a habit? Like what is that process of going from you know Neo waking up and realizing that he can do something to actually dodging bullets? I think one of the things is the way that we approach time.
Starting point is 00:33:02 This is something that almost no one talks about anymore. So I feel like you may be behind. You may actually be behind your destiny right now. Like maybe you're not on pace. In fact, I think most people watching this, listening, will say, I am behind on achieving my destiny. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I feel like it's slipping. I feel like I'm behind.
Starting point is 00:33:22 So you better figure out time differently. And you can bend and manipulate time to your advantage. The most stupid, antiquated, ridiculous concept on planet Earth today very very well may be that a day is 24 hours. It's so stupid. It's the dumbest thing ever. 24-hour days were contrived when there were no cars. There was no electricity. If I wanted to get you a message, I had to write something down if I could, send it on a horseback, hope you get it.
Starting point is 00:33:49 That's insane. Nevermind the internet. So it used to take hours, days, weeks, months, years to do can be done now in a millisecond and the internet or on our smartphones, yet we measure the time the same way that guy did? That's bananas. That is so stupid.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yet everybody does it. And so I, about 25 years ago went I'm not the most talented I'm not the smartest and I'm really not and you've had guests on your show with IQs Maybe a hundred points higher than mine. This is the truth. I know a couple of them. I had them on my show How in the world I don't come from you know a whole track record of success, right? I don't have the perfect upbringing. How in the world am I gonna win? I gotta do things other people aren't willing to do,
Starting point is 00:34:28 which I'm doing, that's the one more, and I gotta fix the way I look at time. What would I need to believe about time? What would I need to believe? What would the question be? And so my days now are from six a.m. to noon. That's a day, it's six hours. And in that day, some days you just chill.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But in that day, I'm gonna get the amount of productivity, faith, working out, fitness, money, business, you name it, in that day. We've all had a morning where we go, I got more done this morning than I have in weeks. Well, why can't you do that every morning? So I measure time, I've compressed and condensed time, I've bent it.
Starting point is 00:34:56 My day is 6 a.m. to noon, and I'm not crazy. You're crazy for thinking it takes 24 hours, just like some dude in a cave did 300 years ago. That's bananas that you still think that way. and it's unfair that people have taught you this. My second day starts at noon and goes till 6 p.m. That's day two but what the cool thing is at the end of day one this clock goes off about noon every day bro and goes what did I just get done? What didn't I do? What do I need to be accountable for? What do I need to double my efforts? Just like you do at the end of most days right and then the next day is 6 p.m. to midnight and some of
Starting point is 00:35:24 those are just fun days. Some days I chill, right? But some days they're really super productive. What I've done now is I have changed the manipulated time. I now get 21 days a week. Stack that up over a month, I'm gonna kick your butt. Stack it up over a year, you're toast. Stack it up over five years, my entire life is different
Starting point is 00:35:39 than it would have been otherwise. And if you do this for about 90 of your traditional days that you think are, you will come back to me and go, that profoundly impacted my life. And here's the other thing that happens. The world responds to you differently when you value your time like that. What is precious is valuable.
Starting point is 00:35:55 That's why a diamond or this watch is way more expensive than the piece of paper that's written down there because it's more scarce. When your time, when you interact with the world is slightly more scarce, they respond to you as if you're more scarce. When your time, when you interact with the world is slightly more scarce, they respond to you as if you're more valuable. So you get more accountability, more productivity, more fun, more joy,
Starting point is 00:36:11 and the world flips its response to you. All of a sudden you become more valuable and precious to people when your time is different. And you'll get thousands more days in your life and live a much more blissful and happy life than the person who only gets 24 hours. Yeah, so this is a concept that I really hope people take seriously.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So I'm often asked like how frequently I evaluate my progress. And I'm like, nah, that's probably about every three hours. And I think people are surprised to hear that it's not daily, it's not weekly, certainly not monthly or yearly. It's like, I'm constantly, okay, was I productive in this period of time?
Starting point is 00:36:44 Yes. In the book, you. It's like I'm constantly, okay, was I productive in this period of time? In the book, you reference it, if I remember correctly, as like squeezing the air out of all those gaps where most people like, okay, if I get this done in my day, then I'm fine. And if you took that and made your day those six hours, suddenly it's like, okay, I need to be really efficient. What if you took that day, Tom,
Starting point is 00:37:02 and then combined it with the power of doing one more of that mindset and then chasing inconvenient things on top of it in those days? And on top of that, sprinkled a little self-love to make sure that you don't burn out. A little self-love, little reticular activating system where we're doing repeated visualizations,
Starting point is 00:37:15 where we're finding the things in those days that we need to be able to find. Uh-oh, you may just change your life. You know, I know exactly what happens. And you liken this to Kobe Bryant and walk people through like, so what Tim Grover has said about like his work ethic and extra practices and stuff,
Starting point is 00:37:33 cause it's like, I don't know how many times the successful people have to say the same things for people to get like, oh, okay, cool. I get where this is going. No, one really simple thing is this, you need to get in a bigger hurry. If I could just distill really simple thing is this, you need to get in a bigger hurry. If I could just distill it down to something simple, you need to get in a bigger hurry.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You're too casual, you're too slow. You walk too slow, you talk too slow, you think in terms of too much time. And if you would just speed up the pace, man, like you know this, when you're around someone like Kobe or Grover or you or anyone that kind of vibrates at a frequency that feels like success energy, it's faster. They don't have to talk faster.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Many of our most favorite people talk much slower than you and I do, but they're just in a little bit of a bigger hurry. I'll give you a Kobe thing that's not in the book though, but just for me and you and everyone gets to listen. Kobe was scheduled to do my show six days after he passed. Oh God. And deeper than that, I was with Kobe
Starting point is 00:38:25 the week before he passed away. Let me tell you the story about this because I think it's pretty profound about the one mores. In a volleyball tournament, our daughters played volleyball together. And if you have a kid who plays volleyball, you all are going, yep, I get what that is.
Starting point is 00:38:41 These are long days and noisy days. So this thing starts about 8 a.m., all the dads are there. The last match was 10 p.m. Oh, God. Yeah, dude. And I'm the last dad in there, except this other guy in a black sweatsuit with white stripes on it. And he's about 6'6".
Starting point is 00:38:59 And it's Kobe. And we've been around each other many times at these tournaments. We're the last of the two dads left. And so the tournament ends. His match was on a different end of the court than my daughter's was. Something happened. I have no idea why I did this, brother. I watched him this day. And I was on the other end and I watched him. He had his baby in his left arm, his little one. And he was rubbing the back of his daughter that was playing. And literally I went, I don't hug Bella enough.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Look how affectionate he is. It just stood out to me. And because it stood out to me, his outward affection, I watched him, bro. And I watched Kobe walk out of the gym that day with this baby and his arm around his other one. And I watched him walk out. And he obviously stood out because he was so tall.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And I can picture him right now, Tom, walking out of that door for the last time. Six days later, he died. And I wonder, see, if you want to know the power of one more, it's when I take it from you and you can't have it anymore. I wonder if someone would have whispered, "'Coby,' when he got in the car that day,
Starting point is 00:40:02 "'six more days.' "'How would that week maybe have been different for him? What would he have said? Who would he have loved? Who would he have reached out to? What would have mattered to him? How about the Saturday before? Kobe, one more day.
Starting point is 00:40:18 He's getting on that helicopter. Kobe, one more hour. See, it hits us when I say that. And there's a whisper happening that you can't hear. Tom, eight more years, 18 more years, whatever it is, there's a whisper. We forget, we're gonna die. Napoleon Hill says, begin with the end in mind.
Starting point is 00:40:44 What if you did that with your life? What if you began with the end of your life in mind and worked it backwards? Bro, my favorite thing in the world was to golf with my dad. My favorite thing, man, we both know good at golf. I was my hero in a golf cart with me for five hours a foot away.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And the conversations, watch my dad walk a car. Do you know what I would do bro for one more round of golf with my dad? One more time, hey dad, good putt. Yeah, that was a good one, wasn't it Eddie? Put his arm on me, high five. You know what I would do for that? How would you act if you started to think about
Starting point is 00:41:23 all the elements of your life like Kobe's last six days, Kobe's one more day, Kobe's one more hour, me getting that back with my dad, what if you started to look at the relationships you have in your life like it was the last time you had a conversation with him, the last time you get to hold Lisa's hand and look into her eyes, right?
Starting point is 00:41:41 But how much more precious does she become? Maybe it's the last podcast, the last interview, how much more precious does she become? Maybe it's the last podcast, the last interview. How much more precious would it be? How much more engaged could we be? Engaged as we are. That next meeting, that conversation with, is it Gerson over here, right? That conversation with him, man.
Starting point is 00:41:56 See, when we begin to distill downs and we realize, yeah, there's a power to one more because they're not promised how many we have. And so that day with Kobe, it just burned it into my soul, man, when I watched him, and then to see six days later he was gone. That time with his family was so precious, and so I would just challenge everybody, if you want to know the power of one more,
Starting point is 00:42:17 it's when I take it from you. And there's a power and there's a blessing that you get one more in your life. You're going to get another chance to talk to Lisa. You're going to get another great dinner with life. You're gonna get another chance to talk to Lisa. You're gonna get another great dinner with her. You're gonna get another show. Those listeners have another day to change their life. They have another opportunity to do one more.
Starting point is 00:42:32 They have another opportunity to make their family proud of them. They still have more time. They don't just have one more day probably to be the one in their family. Life is beautiful, it's precious. And sometimes we only have an appreciation for it in its absence. Sometimes we only have an appreciation for it in its absence.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Sometimes we only have an appreciation for the power of the one mores or the people in our lives when we imagine their absence. And so I would just ask everybody to consider that. The thing about work is that, I think you should enjoy your work. I think there's a part of that, but I think it's this-
Starting point is 00:43:00 I agree aggressively with that. I think it's this notion that everything is separate. What do you mean? Well, like I think people ask me all the time about, well, you know, I feel like, man, if I'm crushing it at work, that I'm not going to be as good a dad, or if I'm really a great dad, my body's going to suffer. And there's this limited scarcity idea that somehow that there's a finite amount of it to have. I just don't buy into that at all. In fact, I've found in my life that when I'm crushing it at work, man, I'm a lot better in the gym.
Starting point is 00:43:29 When I'm crushing it in the gym or work, I'm a better dad. I come home pumped, I come home engaged, I come home excited. I'm not saying there's not fatigue, but when I'm not crushing it at work, what am I not bringing to bear in my family in terms of energy, ideas, my vibrational frequency, my ability to give out information and love.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'm cheating my family when I'm not working. And conversely, I think I rob my work when I'm not engaged with my family. People ask me, well, what is changing you? I was a little bit more of an angry, intense dude before I had kids. And for me, in my case, having children caused me to pause in the way I speak to people. Sometimes I'm ashamed when I was younger of ways I spoke to people, had someone talk to my son or daughter the way that I used to talk to people.
Starting point is 00:44:12 So me crushing it as a dad has made me a better businessman. Me crushing it as business has certain, driving out here, my daughter said to me, driving out here, she goes, daddy, I'm taking the real estate exam today, she's 18, she's going to college. I'm taking the real estate exam today and the life insurance, she's going to college. I'm taking the real estate exam today and the life insurance exam on Monday.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And I'm thinking that's wonderful. Plus she's got finals for school, right? But what impressed me about that was that, hey, that means my work has transferred over into me as a father. So these things are interconnected in life. When you decide not to work and you think that's gonna make you better at home or better in other areas of your life, you're absolutely wrong. You're a whole person and growing
Starting point is 00:44:50 the wholeness of you matters and that's why there's such value in work. Work is not always just labor, work is expansion of oneself and that's why you're robbing yourself. Yeah, I also think there's something to just taking a cynical eye to the world and feeling like, oh, if I'm really giving my everything, then somebody is taking advantage of me. My thing is like, if I were working for somebody else, when, in fact, when I did work for somebody else in my early 20s, I was completely cynical.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I was like, oh, I'm being taken advantage of, and like, this is terrible, I'm not getting paid what I'm owed. And then I discovered work ethic and how far I could push myself. And I discovered one immutable truth. I could get so good that people would be terrified to lose me. There you go. And in fact, Kobe has a quote, it's even better, which is booze. Don't block dunks. You can get so good. People can't stop you. The greatest players in the world, in fact, scouts were paid an obscene amount of money
Starting point is 00:45:48 to go around the entire globe to find people that they could pay millions of dollars to to stop Kobe Bryant from scoring a basket during a game. And despite the best athletes on planet Earth getting paid millions of dollars to stop him, he once scored 81 points in a single game. And so my thing is, like who are you pushing back on? You can get so good at something people can't stop him. He once scored 81 points in a single game. And so my thing is, like, who are you pushing back on? You can get so good at something people can't stop you.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I tell my kids all the time, I say greatness rises. Greatness is eventually found. I won't say who it is, but I have a relative that's like, hey, the coach is discriminating against me, man. He's got, he really favors these other guys. And I said to him the other day, go, no, he's not. He's not. Greatness rises.
Starting point is 00:46:24 He wants to win basketball games or he wants to win baseball games or he wants to win this. The fact of the matter is get great at something. There's such a wonderful feeling of being great at what one does. That if I would a terrible way it would be to get through this earth,
Starting point is 00:46:39 have your whole journey through this earth and never get great. Never get great at what you're capable of being great at. And I would encourage everybody to pursue that. That's why they listen to your show, watch your show. It's why they listen to mine. It's why they read our books. Because this pursuit of greatness, we do, we have started to create a culture that I think has an ill-gotten eye towards success, towards progress. And maybe some of that's earned. Maybe some of the examples in the world about what financial success looks like hasn't been the most elegant or beautiful examples of it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 But the fact of the matter is that my experience with successful people, whether that's financial or not, I believe successful people in their work are happier people just overall. Whether that's my sister who's a school, people ask me, who's one of the most successful people you know? My sister, because I think success is that
Starting point is 00:47:26 when your external life matches your vision for it, whatever that is, you have a vision for your life and you produce it. My sister is blind. That's right, she was born a diabetic, right? She was born a diabetic, you're so connected. And she's a school teacher, Christian school teacher. She's amazing at it, why?
Starting point is 00:47:42 She's in the service of other people, that's the blueprint for her life, and she's using her giftedness in the service of these people. That's the blueprint for her life. And she's using her giftedness in the service of these people. She's kind. She's a great teacher. She's patient. She's 4'11".
Starting point is 00:47:50 She's the same height as the students. See, her giftedness is just perfect for what she does. She's so successful. How does she deal with, because I have to imagine students use the blindness to mess around or whatever. She knows they're doing it. That could be, it would be very easy to feel victimized.
Starting point is 00:48:07 How does she deal with that? Well, and because, by the way, my sister could see some things, she just can't drive, she can't see shadows and whatnot too. My sister though, and here's the other thing, imagine being able that you used to be able to see and you've lost it. I think it's one thing to be born blind,
Starting point is 00:48:21 it's another thing that you had sight. I mean, if an average person just, you've been able to see and you close your eyes even for 10 minutes and be able to imagine not able to see, it's a really traumatic experience. What my sister does, it's really interesting. She uses humor really, really well. So she takes it from you before you can give it to her. And when someone is self-deprecating,
Starting point is 00:48:44 self-deprecation is a great form to diffuse hate, to diffuse pain. And so she's learned to really use humor about it and almost poke fun at herself to where the students don't do that. And you do it very well, by the way. You're self-deprecating all the time. Be easy for you to kinda, you know,
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Starting point is 00:51:51 He's a co-founder of RSE Ventures. He's got a book out right now that I love called Burn the Boats, Toss Plan B Overboard and Unleash Your Full Potential. This guy dropped out of high school. Now he's a fellow at Harvard Business School. His background's incredible. He's helped run the business side of the Jets before and the Miami Dolph school. Now he's a fellow at Harvard Business School. His background's incredible. He's helped run the business side of the Jets before and the Miami Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And he's been successful in investing in many different businesses. And so the timing is perfect for Matt Higgins. So Matt, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. High praise. Thank you. It's good to have you.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Now listen, let's talk a little bit about how we then equip ourselves to be successful at any time in the world. That's one of the reasons I like burn the boat so much. So it's different than what you would think when you say burn the boats. It doesn't necessarily mean like abandon everything in your life to do one thing. It's almost a metaphor for burning the things in your life that may be holding you back to some extent. Right. And so in your case,
Starting point is 00:52:43 why'd you write the book number one and number two, I know the answer to this, but I want you to share it. What was the boat you needed to some extent, right? And so in your case, why'd you write the book, number one, and number two, I know the answer to this, but I want you to share it. What was the boat you needed to be burning? Yeah, no, great. It is a degree of a Trojan horse. Maybe I'm too clever for my own good. But the reality is I wrote this book for the angst ridden,
Starting point is 00:52:58 those with anxiety, who self-select themselves out of this idea of full commitment, because they think it's not for me, it's not for going all in. So I want to appropriate this phrase, and we can get into the history if you want, I want to appropriate this phrase that's the OG life hack that goes back to the beginning of recorded history, this idea of sabotaging your own escape, that military leaders intuitively understood is what's the best way to get the most out of us.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I want to take that jingoistic term and use it for everyone else who maybe doesn't have a support system or infrastructure around them to teach them how to be fully committed to your goals. So I do think the book is leading you to believe one thing and then you pick it up and realize it's entirely different. It's entirely different but in your case it's very different than what I expected. Like what, give them an example of the boat you need to burn. Yeah, all right so so on the boat, this picture, which could look like a pagan symbol, depending on how you see it, but in reality, it's a paper boat floating in a child's bathtub. So my boat, my metaphorical boat that I needed to burn were the legacy issues that were a
Starting point is 00:53:58 hangover from childhood. And I could give you a little bit of context of that. I grew up in Queens, New York, and really tough circumstances, abject poverty. Those words lose their meaning, so you have to explore what does that mean? You know, we'd eat government cheese. My mother would take us on a bus
Starting point is 00:54:14 to go to an hour away to a church to get food so that the neighbors wouldn't see us. So my whole early childhood was shame, and then defiance. So from an early age, I would sell flowers on street corners. I was that little kid knocking on your door, trying to guilt you into buying flowers for your wife on Valentine's Day and scraping gum on her tables at McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:54:34 So my context was poverty, was no cavalry coming, constantly frustrated. Like why isn't the system set up to do something? My mother deteriorating physically, she was obese, but brilliant and had no education. And I watched her go, leave my father, raise kids and squalor, but still aspire for something better, get a GED and go to college. So there was this convergence of all those variables happening.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And around, you know, 13, 14, I found myself increasingly desperate, frustrated, becoming self-destructive, not for any particular, because I didn't want to be here, because I didn't want to be in charge. And I was like, why is no one coming to help? And then eventually, capitulation, it's on me. And I don't know where, thank God, the universe gave me this innate sense that I can take custody of my life. And I came up with a life hack and I'll get to the my burn the votes moment, which is I was making maybe $3.75 an hour at the time of McDonald's, five bucks an hour at a deli. And I would read these little ads in a newspaper and say college students only $8 an hour. I was like, what is it about a college student that suddenly 2X is my income? But I was like, I have to have it.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I came up with this idea. What if I dropped out on purpose and if you did well enough on the GED that you could go to college because in a slightly condescending way, it's like, we love redemption stories. Nobody ever chooses that path. And I remember so excitedly telling my guidance counselor,
Starting point is 00:56:01 everyone, hey, I got a plan. I have a way out. I'm gonna get my GED. And of course they said, hey, I got a plan. I have a way out. You know, I'm gonna get my GED. And of course they said, you're gonna be a loser. The entire system was set up to convince me to stay the course. Now I was hiding my true life. I never had a single person over my home
Starting point is 00:56:15 until the day my mother died and they came and they took her body out. So no one knew the extreme deprivation and I was concealing it. And so my burn the boats moment came when I realized how am I going to resist all this pressure to execute this plan that I know works for me? But the all conventional wisdom is trying to talk me out of it. Police picking me up at McDonald's to bring me back to school, guidance, counselor calling. I mean the state collectively was trying to get me to stay the course, but not fix the problem.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And then I realized sabotage. If I dropped out and failed every single, if I failed every single class and got left back for two years in a row, the system would transition from trying to make me conform to get rid of me. And that's what happened. So I hung out, I called it the land of misfit toys, me with the kids with the beepers and the drug dealers and failing my classes, sleeping on the desk.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I did typing, because typing I thought would be useful. To this day, I type a hundred words a minute. And then I had to execute. And I go into the book a little bit about how, because I don't want to glorify it. Like look at me. I was full of doubt, anxiety, this is a crazy plan. But I executed dropped out and this is the most important lesson of my life. The look on the teacher's faces went from derision and a judgment and a shame to when I came back a year later as president of the debate team to my own prom. I remember going up to Mr. Rosenthal who the day, last day of high school tells me, I'll
Starting point is 00:57:33 see you at McDonald's. What a waste. Did he really? Yep. And I told him as I walked out the door, if you see me at McDonald's, it's because I own it. Now in fairness to Mr. Rosenthal, statistically probably a pretty good projection,
Starting point is 00:57:48 but I came back as president of the debate team and the look on all their faces was begrudging admiration. And it was like, I tell the story always cause it contextualizes and encompasses everything about this book, right? How to strengthen your conviction against the weight of conventional thinking, how to put yourself in a position
Starting point is 00:58:04 that you have no other alternative, how society responds when they wish to put you back in that box, how the input you get from people is corrupted when they don't have the full story because you're concealing it. So the metaphor that I've extended from the military context to here is,
Starting point is 00:58:18 the boats are all the things in our life that you so eloquently talk about, the prison of our own making, how to fully commit, which is beautiful, how to burn those things down. And the book is written for anyone out there listening right now who feels like you've self-selected out because you don't have what it takes
Starting point is 00:58:34 to achieve your true purpose. And I don't believe that's true. I just think no one's taught you how to do it. It's very good. You know, you said something in there in the very beginning. This is a term I've not heard before, but I love. You said, take custody of your own life.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And so many of us sort of surrender custody to conform, to just conform. Like this is the direction I'm supposed to go is what everybody expects me to do. And it takes a lot of courage. And I'm watching you even as you speak, you know, your face breaks a little bit a couple of different times. It's still an emotional thing for you.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Oh, it's raw. And when you talk about it, I actually picture you as that little boy. I picture this little dude like wanting to be somebody, wanting to do something great, you know, everybody should remember one thing, you know, as Matt's talking and we're going to go through some real detailed things now in a minute. But there's a lot of tests that can measure IQ. You can measure someone's height, their jumping ability, their speed.
Starting point is 00:59:21 We can look at someone and determine whether or not they're physically attractive. There's never been a test designed to measure somebody's heart, their will, their desire, that thing inside of us. And that's the thing that's invisible about you that when you're getting feedback or you're getting advice from people telling you what to do,
Starting point is 00:59:39 they can't measure that and they don't know that about you. And that's why most advice is not good advice because they don't know your heart. Similar story, why most advice is not good advice because they don't know your heart I'm similar story Everyone that's become successful has something similar in their life and what they didn't know about me what they didn't know about you was that will to win that heart to overcome things and and Be resilient and overcome adversity and also make good decisions. And so there's something I was watching an interview you were in and And so there's something I was watching an interview you were in and because I do something similar and I would surprise me because I think most people think successful people have this abundance of confidence.
Starting point is 01:00:15 But you ask yourself when you're about to make a difficult decision, right? Because it is a difficult decision to go, I'm going to make a career change. I'm going to leave this relationship. I'm going to start a part time side hustle. I'm going to drop out of high school, right? These, these are difficult decisions. You kind of go through a series of questions with yourself that help you make the decision. And I think it's brilliant. So would you start by sharing that? No, I love that setup because the book, when I wrote the book, I kept thinking, okay, what are the natural objections to the book? Right. I knew a vast,
Starting point is 01:00:42 you know, significant percentage of people would hear burn the boats and think that's risky, you know, and, uh, you know, what if it doesn't work out? All the things that we say to ourselves. So, so I want to underscore for anyone listening, I am the most paranoid risk taker you're ever going to meet and burning the boats and fully committing to your true purpose does not mean you don't process risk. It's the opposite. It's actually, you need to process risk at the beginning of the journey. So, so my PR my process and I'll make it less abstract with the book itself,
Starting point is 01:01:07 but it's fourfold, right? Number one, I asked myself, okay, what's the worst that will happen if I fail at pursuing my true purpose, my plan A now, usually that answer is reputational. It helps me audit. I realize I'm worried about judgment. I also catastrophize that little boy, never left that apartment. So I was still worried that somehow all the money is going to get taken away and I won't be able to take care of my kids. So it makes me confront that.
Starting point is 01:01:31 That's number one. And two, I try to put a, put a, put a probability on that. What would, what would I do if the worst thing were to happen? How would I mitigate it? Humans vastly underestimate our ability to respond to almost anything. We are terrible at anticipating what will go wrong. We're great at being able to handle it when our back is against the wall. So true. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:49 We if I were in the beginning of the month, I've done this before. I put all the things on a left hand column that I'm worried that are going to happen this month. And man, my mind goes to terrible places. It's like if you were in my head, you're like, Matt, how are you not going to end up at landlord, tenant court? I was like, you don't know. You know, I'm one bad decision away for that happening.
Starting point is 01:02:05 But I say, how would I mitigate this worst thing that I'm imagining? And then my third step is, let's put a percentage handicap on the likelihood that that might happen. Even my irrational brain knows that that's like a 2% remote scenario, the worst thing, right? And then the last thing is so important to me.
Starting point is 01:02:21 And I keep all this very raw to me. I don't want to heal over some of these things because that's the gift. The pain is the gift and I don't want to heal over some of these things because that's the gift. The pain is the gift and I don't want to get over it. I said, so the last thing I said, what would I be willing to do to endure, to suffer through, to be able to achieve my plan A? So in the case of this book,
Starting point is 01:02:38 what pain and suffering and aggravation or would I not be willing to subject myself to in order to reach somebody out there who doesn't have a parent or support system or self-esteem and make them believe that they could pursue their true purpose. That is almost breathtaking. And usually my whys are so grandiose teaching in Harvard Business School. How does a kid with a GT go to end up teaching at Harvard?
Starting point is 01:02:59 What would I not do? And the answer is usually walk on glass, come within an inch of my life, stay up straight for days, lose almost everything. And I think, and here's why that matters, to make this less abstract for those listening. When I did the book, use an example, and now I fully committed to writing a great book and I was excited about the title, you know, but there were a couple of things I put in the book that I feel very uncomfortable with that are hard for me to read. And the biggest one is about my divorce.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I did not want to put that in there. And it kept repeating on me like acid reflux. And I get a call from a magazine excitedly, we love the book, we want to do an excerpt, yay, great. We want to do the section on divorce. Ugh, that one sec. So then I, rather than follow the own advice in a book, I revisited all the anxiety about why I didn't want
Starting point is 01:03:43 to put it in there. Now, before I wrote it, the reason I did it is I was feeling so desperate and alone in a really dark place when I was going through it. And I know that if I wrote it a certain way, somebody out there who was going through that would read that paragraph and feel like how they had been seen. And so I had already did my four-step process before I wrote the book. Now, the book was already at the publisher. I didn't let them publish the reprint.
Starting point is 01:04:11 So let's talk about consequences of me not following my own advice of being all in on planning on burning the boats. Right. I do an interview and I talk about some of the themes in a book and I get a note from a guy and he says, I just heard you talking openly about the book. Tonight is the first night I'm alone with my kids and I sent him a book and I, and I circled the page and I said, this page was written for you. And he sent me a note saying, you changed my life, like you saw me.
Starting point is 01:04:32 So- Look at your face right now. Yeah. Yeah. So- That's beautiful, brother. You should be very proud of that. So my point is, I'm actually trying to be critical,
Starting point is 01:04:43 not emotional. I did let the rudder reprint. I could have reached more people. You know what I mean? And that's what Burn the Boats is about. It's a waste of mental energy to revisit the things we already did. And that revisiting of the decisions we've already made, because we didn't process risk, is enough energy leakage to go ahead and make you never ever able to achieve your planning. And so I like that little case study and I need to be able to tell without getting emotional. But it is a beautiful thing right Ed? I mean you have enough
Starting point is 01:05:09 wealth and success. I don't need another accolade. Yeah. I want to use that what I saw when I was 16 and what I've been through to redistribute that knowledge. And so that story of the guy you know reaching me I was like, oh you're such an idiot. Why did you let them run the excerpt? Well the other thing you say in the book, I want you to talk about this a little further. You say, turn your deepest flaws into your most astonishing triumphs. And I've found like, for me, like, you know, there's this tendency to want to just impress people all the time. And I don't think you connect with anybody when you impress them.
Starting point is 01:05:43 John Maxwell said this to me many, many years ago. He said, you know, Ed, if you really want to impress people, tell them how perfect you are. But if you want to connect with people, reveal to them your imperfections. And I think there's this stuff in our culture right now, or the things, I say this often lately, probably too much, but we think these things disqualify us. Our mistakes, our divorce, our bankruptcy, our sins, our our mistakes, our divorce, our bankruptcy, our sins, our averagedness, our invisibleness over our lifetime. We think, ah, because of those things, I'm disqualified from a future that's different. And the truth is, ironically, maybe the pathway to getting there isn't to revisit them necessarily
Starting point is 01:06:17 because I agree with you on that, but there's something pretty powerful to vulnerability. Like I can guarantee you out of this entire interview, the part that people are going to be the most moved by is what just happened because you are, you're vulnerable. You're saying, let me meet you where you are. I see you. I was just like you and, and you are not disqualified. In fact, you're most qualified to help the person you used to be in your life. And so what do you mean when you say turn your deepest flaws into your most astonishing triumphs? What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah. So a hundred percent agree with you about the sharing of the vulnerabilities, what creates space for self-awareness. People always ask me, Matt, you talk so much about how self-awareness is the greatest arbitrage in personal and professional life, but how do you cultivate it? I say you cultivate it by modeling it, right?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Like you model the vulnerability and then others, now you're a sociopath, you won't meet me, or you're a real human and you're thinking, oh, thank you, give me a relief. So I talked to students at a homeless shelter who are getting their GED. So imagine being in a homeless shelter and you're trying to get a GED
Starting point is 01:07:13 when you have no infrastructure, right? And when I walk in the room, they, you know, and I always ask this question, I said, so, you know, what do you think about me? What do you perceive? And they're like, yeah, you're loaded, you got a plane probably, look at your suits, you know, you're a, yeah, you're loaded. You got a plane probably. Look at your suits.
Starting point is 01:07:26 You know, you're a white guy, grew up, went to Harvard and all that. And then I tell the story in the non-airbrushed version that is not in the book. And they get the real, they get the full story. And you know, kids end up crying or saying, and I said, okay, now let me tell you something really excited.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Everyone likes to feel good about themselves. And I love to do right by somebody who overcame hard circumstances. You're getting a GED in a homeless shelter. That is like a weapon of mass destruction. That will make people admire you for the rest of your life. You feel like the die is cast. And I'm telling you, you're sitting on such an incredible asset. You just need to get to the other side. And that's what I'm talking about, right? Fortunately, I think you feel the same way I don't have any problem talking about it the only problem I have talking about these things I keep them raw so that they are useful I don't want to like I don't want to package it so that they lose their power because I
Starting point is 01:08:14 think that's why when we've read Instagram posts and say failure is great like okay but what does that really mean right well let me show you let me show you what bleeding out looks like yeah when I tell those kids that story their framing goes from one of feeling like they are less than or discarded, to one of feeling like it is an asset, because I'm able to make them understand. I think it gives you a level of belief,
Starting point is 01:08:35 even me listening to you, and I'm already 52 years old and I've had some decent stuff happen in my own life, right? But anytime I ever hear somebody's stories about what they've had to go through to get where they are, it frankly in an odd way alleviates my worrying and anxiety about where I currently am. Because at any given time in your life, no matter who you are, you're doing it today. I guarantee you there's something on your mind today. No question. That you're like, I'm really worried about this. I have anxiety about this.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I think people think that, man, if I can get to a certain point, those things sort of dissipate. I'm gonna let you both in. There's two very wealthy men talking to each other right now. Let's be real. Yeah. I drove here today
Starting point is 01:09:15 and I had a two hour drive here to the studio today. It was a long drive. I was excited to interview you. I have a couple other interviews today. But in all candor, I spent the majority of my time processing a problem I have right now. I'm processing it. And what helped me process that problem was two things. One, I actually prepped for this interview and I was reading about some of the things you've been through. And then me reflecting on other places I've been in my life. And I do just what you do. I have that same process.
Starting point is 01:09:38 What's the likelihood of this happening? If it happens, what would I do? Et cetera, et cetera. How bad would it really be? But I think it's important for people to know you're worth several hundred million dollars, so am I. Do you still have problems and things you worry about and anxiety and fears and they're just probably as pronounced as they were when you were younger, I would imagine. I mean, it's endless.
Starting point is 01:09:58 And for a bit, I would judge the presence of them as an indication that I'm not evolved or I would condemn myself. Like, when are you ever you ever gonna feel you know that you got it under control and the answer I realized is Never because I am constantly putting myself in uncomfortable positions. You know what? I mean, when you worry I'd have to be interrupt you know, please I would worry This is so weird. I keep using the word worry. I should stop that I would have concern if I didn't have concerns. Right, you're complacent then. Like I'd be like, what am I,
Starting point is 01:10:26 there's nothing vibrating around me. There's no frequency, there's no expansion happening. There's no growth happening. I, the presence of some level of anxiety. Now having like you teach in the book and I teach in my work, tactics and tools and strategies to deal with these things and flourish when they happen is important.
Starting point is 01:10:44 But when I was young, I thought, I'm going to get to a point in my life when I have enough money and good enough friends and this or that, that I won't have worries or anxiety anymore. And I think that's the picture the world sort of paints for us. And never in any interview, if I said this out loud, it's just with you. I just realized that driving on your day, this is not going to end. I'm 52 years old. A different kind of prison of our own making prison of my own mind. And it's, but by the way, I like the escape.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I enjoy the escape from the prison. It's okay for me in my life to have issues and problems. I rather enjoy the escape from the prison. And then just, I just have finally surrendered the false belief system that there won't be another one eventually present itself in my life. I just want you to acknowledge that because you people look at you like Shark Tank, Harvard, you know, different football teams, you know, a lot of really well-known people admire and respect you. It's just gonna be there,
Starting point is 01:11:42 right? And it's having the tactics and strategies to deal with it when it appears. No, it's so funny we're talking about this. It's never ending. It's every day. It's almost like the movie 50 First Dates. I'm like, we're gonna do this again? Right.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And it's always a constant refrain of like, this time it'll be clear to everyone that there were other times were bullshit too. There's a little bit of like, and then when I audit, I'm like, oh, well, this is a painful, hard fact pattern that most people would never be able to engineer nor would they try.
Starting point is 01:12:11 And then every time I indulge myself in a new version of my life, like, you know what though, I'm gonna reap the rewards, it's time for the harvest. You know, and that lasts about 48 hours. And actually I realized that is a feedback loop of saying you need a little healing. Like you're taking it to the edge. But, but, but the premise of the book, I'm glad we're talking about this.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Cause I wondered, is this my confirmation bias? I do think the joy of living is in the striving that we don't know exactly why we're here or where we're going. And we seek out what's the ceiling on my potential. And that's what brings us joy. It's why marathon runners feel melancholy afterwards and Olympians have depression. It's because we enjoy the
Starting point is 01:12:47 training and we enjoy the pursuit, but we don't talk about that a lot and we don't kind of coach each other about how to say, all right, well how do we endure in the life of perpetual pursuit? Here's how right you are. I love where we're going with this here today. Me too. Because I have to tell you, Andrew Huberman, I think you know who Andrew is. Of course, yeah. Andrew and I were talking, and one of the things he shared with me is he said,
Starting point is 01:13:09 they've actually proven that the dopamine hit is actually greater in the pursuit of the goal than the actual moment of achievement. That the benefit in our brains, that great feeling that we get is actually higher and in greater abundance in the pursuit and the journey of the goal or the achievement or the moment or the date or the whatever, then it is when we actually get
Starting point is 01:13:31 it and there's actually a perpetual precipitous drop off after the achievement, which is why a lot of times when we achieve things like, ah, it's not what I thought it would be. It actually was. You just have to reflect on the pursuit of it. That's what you- The kill of effect of those little wins. It's funny, I feel much more boosted by the little breakthroughs when I've lost hope on doing something, I'm going through something now. And it was like, I had a breakthrough. I'm like, wow, this is some of my finest work.
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Starting point is 01:16:21 When you were born, let me ask you a question. The doctor slapped you on the ass, make sure you're okay, didn't he, right? Then he sat you probably on your mama's chest or put you in the nursery. I doubt when he handed me your mom he goes, hey, here's one of the average ones. Mediocre kid you got there, congratulations. See you were made to do something great with your life, weren't you? And you've always known it. There's always been this little voice in your head
Starting point is 01:16:46 that you're a little boy or a little girl. You've always known there was something special about you. Those of us that have faith in the room, we know we were made as a masterpiece. We know the Lord looks like us, looks at us like we can do anything with our lives through him, don't we? Is that right?
Starting point is 01:17:00 You weren't born to be average. You weren't born to have a mediocre existence on this earth. You were born to do something great and that's why you're in this room. It's by no mistake that you've always had those thoughts, that intuition, that aspiration, and you find yourself in this room at this time today.
Starting point is 01:17:19 So if this is the worst talk you ever heard, you heard from Ted Milet. But if it's the best talk you ever heard, give heard from Ted Milet. But if it's the best talk you ever heard, give Ed Milet a little credit. Is that fair, yes? And so do you feel the energy in here, by the way? Because see, the difference between maxing out 10X in your life has a lot to do with energy.
Starting point is 01:17:37 There's a winning energy, right? People respond to what they feel more than what they hear. In fact, as I'm speaking right now, you already feel different the first three minutes of this, don't you? And the reason is you can feel that I mean what I'm saying. You can feel the transfer of energy. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:17:55 What do you make people feel? And the more you become conscious of what you're making people feel, not what you say, not their opinion of you, but what they feel when they're around you is going to make all the difference in the world of whether or not you're going to influence them to change their lives or participate with you in business, your company, et cetera. Do you hear me on that?
Starting point is 01:18:15 Say yes. Because the day he slapped you on that ass, a race started. Listen to me. A race began. And it's a race that started that first day when you were born to the last day of your life. And that race is to finally reach the ultimate version of you.
Starting point is 01:18:32 You're chasing down the person you were born to be, that you were destined to be. And since that day started, the world, the people around you are trying to get you to conform to average. They're trying to get you off that track to finally meet your twin someday, the best possible version of you.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Every single day has to be a pursuit to get better, to improve, to grow, to stretch, because you are ultimately chasing the destiny version of you. Do you hear me on that? Say yes. Yes. So every decision you make in business,
Starting point is 01:19:04 every call you have, whether you go to the gym or not, you need to put it through this paradigm, through this barometer. Does this decision, does this relationship I'm in, does this choice I'm making right now put me closer to becoming that man or woman or further away? Listen, you gotta get a little bit more intense
Starting point is 01:19:23 about your life, about your business. You gotta stop being so dad gum casual. You gotta get in the game. If you're gonna play the game, let's play to win it. Let's play to max it out. Let's play to 10 exit, right or wrong, right? Right. I want you shaking, I want you feeling it,
Starting point is 01:19:39 I want your intensity level to go up. Not in this room, but when you leave this room, you're focused on more energy, more intensity, more focus. Because these people you see speaking here, they're not smarter than you. We're not better than you. I don't like when we get up here, I'm rich, I'm rich. You know what, who cares if I'm rich?
Starting point is 01:19:57 I care whether you're rich. I want you to live richly. And I can tell you, I don't like it sometimes when we come to events like this because you always live richly. And I can tell you, I don't like it sometimes when we come to events like this because you always see the after. If this was a weight loss ad, we're all ripped up here. The power of the weight loss ad is you see the fat lady, then she's the skinny lady, right?
Starting point is 01:20:16 You don't see the before, you're only seeing afters here. The before with me is an introverted, shy guy, insecure guy, low self-esteem, afraid of public speaking. That's the before me, a broke me. And I'm not gonna get into the details of that, but I want that to give you hope, because it's decisions we make to chase that best version of us every second, every day,
Starting point is 01:20:38 that every day alters the direction of the course of our lives. We've all made decisions that we regret. That decision took me off course. That decision put me further away of being the best life I could have, the best version of me. When you were a little girl or a little boy, there was somebody who knew you were special. It was your grandma, your uncle, a coach, a teacher. There's been one person in your life, hasn't there? They're the one who knew you were special. There's always one. If you're
Starting point is 01:21:03 blessed in life, you may have two or three of those people. Just picture their face for a second. Who was that person that when you were a little girl or a little boy, they just looked at you a little different. They just knew you were special. They knew you were great. They knew you could do something great with your life. See, I think the key to being great in business
Starting point is 01:21:18 is being that person in other people's lives. I don't believe in faking it till you make it. And you can listen to all my podcasts and know how broke I went. But I'm gonna prove to you how crazy entrepreneurship is. Because you know what entrepreneurism is, right? It's the greatest self-discovery process in the history of mankind, isn't it? You learn more about yourself, what you don't know, your resiliency, how tough you are, what your weaknesses are by being an entrepreneur. It's probably the greatest self- discovery program in the history of the world. It's also this, it's the greatest
Starting point is 01:21:43 self-improvement program in the history of the world. It's also this, it's the greatest self-improvement program with the highest compensation package possibly attached to it too. That's what entrepreneur, entrepreneurism is a self-improvement program with massive compensation package attached to it. And that's why too many of you are too focused on growing your company and not focused enough on growing you. Because your company will never, ever exceed your identity or your vision for it.
Starting point is 01:22:03 You gotta grow you, because what will happen when it starts to grow, you'll start making unconscious mistakes to shrink it, making bad calls, getting weak, getting lazy, making mistakes. You're all nodding because you've all done it, because at some point your business got ahead of you. Far too many of you in your life are obsessed
Starting point is 01:22:20 with what cab driver number two and bouncer number one think about what you're doing. Instead of the lead characters. You're obsessed with what other people think about you. The thing that's gonna kill your dream is your addiction to other people's approval. And cab driver number two, he ain't gonna approve of what you're doing. At the end of your damn life,
Starting point is 01:22:38 he's not gonna show up in any of the important chapters, yet you give him all this power all the time. Stop giving people power who aren't in your book. Do your life for the leading characters. You, your spouse, your children, your parents, your legacy. They're the lead characters in the story of you, of your life, and the more you focus on them. And I know that many of them are the very ones giving you a hard time. They're the very ones telling you you can't make it, you should quit, you should give in. Let me tell you, somebody who experienced that,
Starting point is 01:23:07 who's now written a pretty damn good book, they are thrilled with the book. And they knew you were gonna write it all the time someday. But you get focused on the lead character. Here's the good news. A leading character can decide to live a new script at any point she wants.
Starting point is 01:23:23 She walked in here, one one character and she says, you know what, I am the lead character. This is some stupid script my parents gave me or a script my boss gave me or a script someone else gave me or my husband gave me. You know what, screw that. I'm the new leading character. This woman's more beautiful, more confident,
Starting point is 01:23:38 more influential, more resilient, more evangelical. This woman's just a little stronger. And you leave here in the break and you just feel different. You decide's just a little stronger. And you leave here in the break, and you just feel different. You decide, I'm a new character. I'm a new leading character in the book of my life. Because the more you decide to take control of the narrative, of the script of your life, and you live your dream, the more likely at the end of your life, you're going to meet that dude. You're going to meet that woman. See, at the end of my life, because I am a person of faith, the Lord's gonna go, hey, hopefully he goes, well done, good and faithful servant,
Starting point is 01:24:06 and I have this other little hallucination. He's gonna go, hey, by the way, this guy over here, this is the man you could have been. This is the person you were born to be. All those choices you made, if you made them all, you got the right place, this is who you could have become. This would have been your dreams. This is where you would have gone,
Starting point is 01:24:21 what you would have seen, who you would have helped, what you would have changed. This would have been your book, meet him. My dream in my life is that when I meet that person, we're not total strangers. You don't wanna get to the end of your life and that character is a total stranger to you. I don't care if you have faith or not, you know damn well
Starting point is 01:24:39 there's gonna be a funeral for you someday. And at that funeral, there's gonna be a sense and a spirit of what you could have become. The woman, the man you could have become. The woman, the man you could have become and every day those decisions you're making to max out your life are chasing that person. See you know what I want at the end of my life when I meet him? Watch how I pull this together.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I want to be identical twins. I want to be identical twins. I want you to be identical twins. Ted and Ed are gonna meet each other someday, and I'm gonna say, hey man, good to see you. Been riding with you for quite a while. Been chasing you, man. He's gonna go, I've been watching you.
Starting point is 01:25:14 You're exactly like me, man. We're identical twins. You maxed out your damn life. Congratulations. Max out everybody, God bless you. This gentleman to my left, just to give you a background, this guy parlayed a 990 SAT score into a multi-billion dollar company that he built. We're going to get into your head about how you did that, but I'm overwhelmingly impressed
Starting point is 01:25:36 with Impact Theory. Tom Bilyeu, thank you for being here today, brother. Thank you for having me, man. I'm so excited to be here. Me too. We flipped the script before, so. We flipped. I've been on his program, and now finally I get you here.
Starting point is 01:25:46 What I wanna do now, because you founded Impact Theory, and I'm riveted by your content. I love your content, I love your guests, but I really love what you talk about. And so what I wanna do now is I wanna help the people watching this have a better shot at making their dream, their vision happen than they did before you and I sat down here together. Okay, because you've made yours. It's an unbelievable
Starting point is 01:26:07 journey and you're just now taking on this new chapter of your life. I'm just curious first because I want them to, I want to understand you too. What's this fascination you have with the Matrix movie? I am fresh out of film school, about a year out of film school. So the Matrix came out in 99, I graduated in 98, so I'm hopelessly lost at this point. And I go to a comic convention, love comic books, and I come around the corner at this divey little comic convention. If you're thinking San Diego Comic Con, this was not that. This was like a divey little thing.
Starting point is 01:26:39 And I come around the corner and there is Carrie Anne Moss, Keanu Reeves, Joe Pantaleone, Joe Silver, the producer, like just this whole panel of people. I'm like, what? And so this is like, I mean, film is the center of my life at this point. I'm like, I can't believe these people are here. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:26:56 And they're like, hey, we're handing out tickets to the premiere tonight. You can see it on the back lot of Warner Brothers. I was like, oh my God, it's incredible. So I go and I'm waiting in line and as I'm waiting in line, literally just like in the back alley of Warner Brothers, the doors burst open, people come out screaming and I was like, what is going on? And so I plugged my ears because I don't want to hear if they're going to give spoilers
Starting point is 01:27:17 and they all go off, but I could tell. Something special. Yeah, they were into this thing. Go in, sit down, we're watching it and you know that moment where Agent Smith comes up to the cops very beginning in the movie And he said I told you to wait until we got here and he said oh we can handle one little girl No officer your men are already dead and they cut up to she jumps up Yeah, and in that moment the entire audience all at once screams. Oh
Starting point is 01:27:43 Like they just go nuts. Yeah, and was like, that has never happened to me before ever in a movie. There was just something so captivating. And then ultimately, the Matrix is the perfect metaphor for the human experience. It is about a guy who from the day he shows up has the same abilities as the day at the end. But once he learns to believe in himself,
Starting point is 01:28:01 then he can actually do more. Even though he had the same potential, he's able to do more at the end. And I was like, that's life. You've got this potential, but if you don't believe in yourself, you're never gonna put in the work to actuate it. And so it's a film with multiple training sequences,
Starting point is 01:28:16 which are my thing, I love training sequences. Excuse me, that is the dominant metaphor. So when I go to explain to, because I've done a lot of work in dominant metaphor. So when I go to explain to, because I've done a lot of work in the inner cities, when I go to explain somebody, you've gotta get them to how to be successful. You've gotta give them a new frame of reference. And so the matrix is that metaphor.
Starting point is 01:28:36 There is a real world equivalent to jacking into the matrix and it's called reading. And if you read, you can get knowledge and you can get it fast it's basically someone's life distilled down to something that you can read in a week like that's crazy I agree so that's that's my obsession with the matrix bro I love that and there's all these parts of the matrix that apply in real life and I love what you just said about reading too because and I just feel like
Starting point is 01:29:00 there's this we live in a matrix too to some extent like one of our RAS and our brain that you and I both know a lot about is this filter that reveals to us our own Reality and the more that we can begin to understand how our brain works and what we see what we believe strongly reveals itself to us the more we would take greater control of our beliefs and so I'm a believer though that there's this chase that you have in life where you're chasing your vision, all the positive warm vibe stuff. I also believe that there's two great motivators. There's the game pleasure, there's to avoid pain, right? For me, oddly, the greater motivator many times in my life was avoidance of pain. And just in hearing your story, just got chills again, and hearing your story, I think you
Starting point is 01:29:43 tap into that a lot too. And I'm going to start out by quoting somebody named Epictetus, who's a Greek philosopher. And here's what he said, not worry about anything outside of your control. The only things you can command are your thoughts and actions. We choose our response. Stop aspiring to be anyone other than your own best self for that does fall within your control." And I start out quoting that today for this epic podcast because so many people of you
Starting point is 01:30:10 have asked me this last few weeks, Ed, would you do something on truly changing your life? Give me a key on changing and shifting my life. What's an invisible thing maybe I'm not doing that I need to be doing, something I'm missing? And I can tell you right now that I know what it is for most people because I know what it was for me for decades. And here's what it is. You're not thinking big enough. Stay with me on this.
Starting point is 01:30:33 You are not thinking big enough. And because you don't think big enough, it constricts and limits everything around you. For decades on end, I was what I would call a realistic thinker. And then I read a book called The Magic of Thinking Big by Schwartz. And it changed my life because I realized that if you're going to think, you might as well think big. And big thinking changes everything. One, it opens up your entire mind to the possibilities that you were oblivious to before you thought
Starting point is 01:31:01 the bigger thought. Remember this, this is important. Your life will never get better or bigger than your best thought, than your highest thinking. You won't exceed it. And essentially it creates a ceiling on your life. And for years and years and years, I thought it was smart to kind of be realistic and pragmatic in my life. And, and there is some benefit to doing that so that you're not just pie in the sky and Pollyanna all the time. But it's such a limiting thing. Most of us in our lives
Starting point is 01:31:31 are limited by our small and realistic thinking because the people around us have got us to conform that way. And so conformity is actually, in my case, I believe when you conform, it's the ultimate form of cowardice. Conformity is cowardice. You conform to the thinking of everybody around you or what conventional wisdom is of what's possible. But if you think about all the people that you admire in your life, they're not conformists, they're big thinkers.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Even if it's someone who's done simple in their life, it's a big thought in life to decide that you're going to live a simple life. That's contrarian. That's not conforming to today's culture. But so many of us are limited. You're not going to ever exceed in your life your biggest and best thought. You won't exceed your thinking. And I have to tell you that I was so limited for years because I was a realistic thinker.
Starting point is 01:32:20 And I want you to change this. John 3.18 tells us, let us not love with words or speech, but with actions and truth. So let me start out by today saying this. I did a podcast a while ago where I said, I want to observe people. I'm trying to figure out who's really going to work hard. Who really loves me?
Starting point is 01:32:37 Who's, and the way you do this in life is you have to stop listening to people. You have to turn the volume down on people and watch them like one of these old black and white silent movies. You'll learn everything about a human being. If you were to turn the volume off, stop listening to them. People have learned in life to use words to manipulate other people. They've also learned to use words as a mask. So, even if you're wondering something as simple as how is someone really feeling? Are they okay? Most people tell you, I'm okay, don't worry about me, I'm fine. But if you turn that volume off and you watch them, are they really okay? Are they really fine?
Starting point is 01:33:15 That relationship here, and I love you so much, I'll do anything for you, you're my everything. Turn the volume off on that completely and then watch them. How have they behaved? How have they treated you? Do they go out of their way to put you first or make you a priority or do they just say they do that? We're so romanticized, aren't we, on words in this culture? How about the person that's working?
Starting point is 01:33:42 I'm so fired up, I'll do anything for this company. I'm going to go all the way to the top. I'm gonna do something awesome. But then they don't get there early. They show up late. They don't exceed expectations. They don't outwork everybody. But we wanna believe them.
Starting point is 01:33:55 And so we listen to the words. But if we just turn the volume off and watched them like a silent movie, we learn everything we need to learn. Now here's the rub. We would with you too. And so if success was your boss, if success was where you were heading, if we took the last four weeks of your life
Starting point is 01:34:17 and there was a private camera on you when nobody was watching you thought, and we turned all the volume off of, here's my new resolutions, here's my goals, here's my outcomes, here's what I'm gonna do, we turned all the sound off and you were being real. And this camera was watching you at 9.30 on a Wednesday morning. 3.15 on Friday afternoon, right? 6.15 a.m. What your routine and habits are, what you were really doing during those times would success say oh
Starting point is 01:34:49 Your head in my way or would success say I don't recognize you I want you to ask yourself that turn the volume off now on you And if there's a video camera watching you regularly Are you doing all the things that are required to hit your goals and your outcomes? Because in life, you're not always going to get your goals, you're always going to get your standards. Our standards are what we do when nobody's watching. This is really important. Let us not love with words or speech, but with actions and truth. That's not just true in love. Let us have success without words or speech, but with
Starting point is 01:35:23 actions and truth. I say this to you for me this year as I evaluate my year. I've got to start to think bigger because that thinking is the cap on my life and that thinking is driven by my belief system. And so I've got to think bigger thoughts so that I'll do... Why does this matter, by the way? When you're thinking big thoughts, you vibrate at a much higher frequency than someone that thinks small see small thinking realistic thinking see i had benjamin hardy on my show and we were talking about 10xing things in your life and he actually said ed i think
Starting point is 01:35:53 10xing a business 10xing your wealth 10xing your happiness is actually easier than 2xing it because at 2x when you just want to double something or improve it there's a hundred different options but when you want to 10x something there's only one or two things you when you just want to double something or improve it, there's a hundred different options, but when you want to 10X something, there's only one or two things you know you would have to do, big things you would have to do to move the needle in that direction. So to some extent, if you're going to do the work, you might as well go 10X something then 2X it because the options are more limited and you know exactly what you need to do to do it.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Don't you? This is true by the way, if you're're gonna think you might as well think big. I had a mentor earlier in my career, he goes, Ed, dreaming is free, so dream big. It doesn't cost you anything to dream a big dream as opposed to a small dream. One of the things I tell my teams all the time, I'm always saying to them, let's get in the big.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Let's get in the big, the big frame first, the big picture. Not enough people have built the muscle of being in the big. They're good at strategy, they're good at details, but how good are you in the big? As you're on your walk or your run right now, or you're watching this on your YouTube, how good are you truly at building the muscle of big, of thinking big thoughts? Because not only are you limited by your biggest thought, but big thinkers vibrate at a high frequency and they begin to attract people, places, and things into their life because they vibrate at a higher frequency than someone who thinks small.
Starting point is 01:37:10 This small thinking is limiting your activity, limiting your vibrational frequency, your attractiveness level. It's limited your ambition. And this is something that our culture has conditioned us to do is to be realistic. It's getting your seat, be a good boy, be a good girl. The people you admire the most in life, no matter who they are of what they've done, we all know this to be true. Let's just be real. They were big thinkers. In fact, in the book, The Power of One More, I have a lot of quotes in here and most of you know, but one of my heroes is Martin Luther King Jr. I wrote my dissertation on him. I want to read something
Starting point is 01:37:45 to you about this building the gap between what we say and what we actually do and your thinking. I'm full of quotes today. Here's Martin Luther King. Listen to this. One of the great tragedies of life is that men seldom bridge the gulf between practice and profession, between doing and saying. Wow. A persistent schizophrenia leaves so many of us tragically divided against ourselves. On the one hand, we proudly profess certain sublime and noble principles, but on the other hand, we sadly practice the very antithesis of these principles. How often are our lives characterized by a high blood pressure of creeds and an anemia
Starting point is 01:38:32 of deeds? We talk eloquently about our commitment to the principles of Christianity, yet our lives are saturated with the practices of paganism. We proclaim our devotion to democracy, but we sadly practice the very opposite of the democratic creed. We talk passionately about peace, and at the same time we assiduously prepare for war. We make our fervent plans for the high road of justice, and then we tread unflinchingly the low road of injustice. This strange dichotomy, this agonizing gulf between the ought and the is represents the tragic theme of man's earthly pilgrimage. Wow.
Starting point is 01:39:15 And so, if we turned the volume down and we started to watch you, what would happen? If we really got in your head, how big are you thinking about your relationship and how amazing it could be and the things you could do and where you could go? Because it'll never get there. You will never exceed it if you don't think it or dream it. Your business, your wealth, your body, you're limited by your biggest thought. You must extend it. You must expand it.
Starting point is 01:39:41 And remember this, write this down. Extremity expands capacity.

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