THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Why I Gave My AI Access to Everything Feat. Peter Diamandis

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

He named his AI, "Skippy". He gave it access to his iMessages, his emails, every conversation he has. And he says it's the smartest thing he's ever done. Every time Peter Diamandis comes on this show, downloads go through the roof. There's a reason for that. He doesn't just talk about the future. He's building it. Peter brings something to this conversation that almost no one else on earth can: a front-row seat to where the world is actually going, backed by 28 companies, decades of relationships with Elon Musk, Larry Page, Eric Schmidt, and the architects of AI, and the kind of credibility that only comes from being right about the future over and over again. In this conversation, Peter lays out his clearest vision yet of the next decade: ambient AI that knows your schedule before you do, a billion humanoid robots on the streets within ten years, the reversal of aging becoming a clinical reality, and the democratization of health care that will save more lives than any drug ever has. He also doesn't soften the turbulence that comes first, a 2-to-8-year window of real social and economic disruption that most people are completely unprepared for. I push him on the things people are afraid to ask: whether privacy is actually already gone, whether a solopreneur with AI can become a billionaire, and what the difference is between passion and purpose. Here's what you'll gain from this episode: •The 6-Year Storm: Peter's honest prediction for the turbulence ahead, who gets hit hardest, and the one mindset shift that determines whether you come out the other side as a creator or a consumer. •Aging Is About to Become Optional: What longevity escape velocity actually means and how AI could double the human lifespan within ten years. •Passion vs. Purpose: The distinction between passion & purpose, and why getting this wrong is the most expensive mistake a person can make right now. •Privacy Is Already Gone: Peter's most controversial take, why he named his own AI "Skippy" and gave it access to everything, and why the trade-off is about to become the most obvious decision most people have ever made. •The Terminator Future vs. the Star Trek Future: How Hollywood has been programming us for the wrong outcomes with AI, and negatively impacting the future of civilization Stop what you are doing and go watch this episode right now. This is one of those conversations that changes how you see the world. If you run a business with any kind of customer operation, support, sales, or onboarding, you can start with a demo at https://elevenlabs.io/mylett If you have an iPhone, head to https://ladder.fit/MYLETT and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join. See how K12 Powered Schools can help unlock your child’s full potential! Enroll online today at https://k12.com/mylett 👉 SUBSCRIBE TO ED'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL NOW 👈⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   → → → CONNECT WITH ED MYLETT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: ← ← ←  ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INSTAGRAM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FACEBOOK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LINKEDIN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WEBSITE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the Edmireland show. All right, welcome back to the show, everybody. So this man is back on his mom's favorite podcast today. So true. First person I thought of this morning was not my guests, not my kids, not my family. I thought about his mom because our show is his favorite podcast. You know, it's so great. My mom is like, I heard you on Edmight's podcast.

It's like that made me a hero. Not the fact that you've changed the world multiple times. the fact that you've been on our show. But I got to tell you guys something for me, you know, there's unicorn companies, and then there's very rarely unicorn humans. Peter's a unicorn. And he's brilliant. He's, you guys, every time he's on, the downloads go through the roof, he's an entrepreneur, I guess he's a futurist, he's a physician, he's an investor. He's a guy who's got his pulse on what's happening in the world as a change at light speed. And he is the guy that I go to to figure out where we're all going as a species. And,

we're going to do a little bit of that today. He's got a book that you should go get called We Are as Gods, which we'll talk about today. He's obviously the founder of the X Prize as well, which we'll touch on that. This is going to be a ride for the next 55 minutes you guys are going to love with Peter Diamannis. Welcome back to the show, young man. Pleasure to be here, pal. Pleasure to be here. Great to have you.

Okay. I'm going to start with a crazy question first. Okay? Yep. My son wanted me to ask you this. So let's start. Let's go way out there. Most important.

Yes. What prediction do you have about the next 10 years? years, here's a tough one, that most people will think is crazy, but you actually think it's going to happen over the next decade. Wow. So there's, it's a great question and thank your son for it. There are so many. First of all, in the next 10 years, we are going to learn how to fundamentally reverse aging. We're on the verge of this so-called longevity escape velocity where for every year that you're alive, your life gets longer by a year, your health span, your longevity.

And that's gonna be an incredible, incredible future, one where aging becomes somewhat optional. We're learning and understanding that. In the next 10 years, we're likely to have a billion humanoid robots roaming the planet, where you are on the streets, you're in offices, you look around, and you've got almost as many human beings

our robots as you have humans. These robots are going to start to enter into our world. Probably in the next 10 years for your son, we're going to see as many autonomous vehicles or more autonomous vehicles on the road than cars. Right now here in Santa Monica, when my kids and I are out and about, we'll count the number of Waymos out there.

And there are, you know, probably in a half hour of time, we'll see 10 or 12, 15 Waymos. But it's just the beginning. to be probably five to ten electric autonomous rideshare companies on the streets from cybercabs to projects that Uber has going. Probably in the next 10 years, you're going to have what I call ambient AI. AI is always on around you, making your life automagical before you walk into a room. Your AI knows if you're depressed or sad and it changes the music.

for you, maybe on the TV screen, your favorite comedian comes up. Your AI is like knowing that you're walking in a particular direction to get someplace and it says, hey, there's a set of stairs over there, take the stairs instead of the elevator, or your AI is telling you, listen, or not telling you, not telling you anything. It's telling the humanoid robot in your kitchen that Peter needs more protein and more water and more vitamin D. so let's change what you're serving him for lunch. So the world becomes automatic and magical in this fashion, right?

So much. You know, AI today is something you use on your computer or on your phone, and you have to go to it. In the near future, it is, as I said, ambient. It's enabling you always. And we can start to dream at a much higher level than ever before. our ambitions can scale, our desires can scale. Anyway, so a lot.

And I also think that the economy is going to go through the roof. And we can talk about that. Wow, number one. You know, you, I got to know you enough over the last few years. You're an optimist, I think, by nature. And so when I've asked you that question, it was a lot of bubblegums and rainbows right there. And very exciting.

At the same time, my son, who asked that that question, question. You know, he's getting into his mid-20s now, a couple years out of college. And I noticed this last year, Peter, at the college graduations, I don't know if you've seen these clips. I have any of the people given the commencement addresses brought up AIs. It was AI. I mean, the crowd just, the kids started booing. Or Eric Schmidt. I mean, I know Eric well. Yeah, I do. I know. I know Eric as well. And so the booze rang all over the place every single time AI came up at one of these, at least that I saw. And so that tells me there's a lot of trepidation and worry at people that are in that entering the labor force. This is a generic question. I know,

I don't want you to answer it this way. I want you to dig deep in that brain of ears. What advice really would you give someone that's at 22, 24, 25? Here's the industries that will exist and will flourish. And here's the ones that aren't going anywhere and are probably going to go away. Really important to me. And something I've dedicated a good amount of my life to understanding and addressing. I mean, my my innermost purpose. is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs and humanity to create a hopeful, compelling vision for the future. So first of all, it's really important that anybody,

from my 15-year-old boys to your 20-something-year-old son, how old is your son? 24. 24. To find a purpose. I think that's the single most important. So I teach a lot about mindsets. I think mindsets are the most important thing you have.

Your mindset determines how you deal with a chance. challenge or how you deal with an opportunity. And the mindsets required for this next decade fundamentally are purpose-driven mindset and a curiosity mindset. A purpose. What is a purpose? So a passion is something you love doing. A purpose is something you love doing that helps other people.

Right? And so when I, you know, you don't have to have one purpose for all of your life. Your purpose can change over time. You can layer it. My first purpose was opening up the space frontier. you know, that launched ZeroG Space Adventures, the XPRIZ Foundation, a whole bunch of companies of how do we make humanity multi-planetary. My purpose of late has been, how do we navigate the next 10 years? Because while I believe we're going to have incredible future of abundance elements I just discussed a minute ago,

I also believe we're going to have a rough patch over the next two to eight years. And a lot of that comes from fear about the future. I'll come back to that a moment. But if someone can find their purpose and they can maintain a curiosity mindset, the greatest educator in the world is your AI. Any of the large language models that you can chat with, you can learn anything.

But if you have a purpose, like I really want to solve this problem, I really want to create this future. That purpose is your guiding star. It's what drives you, what wakes you up in the morning and has you going through the rest of the rest of the future. of the day, right? You and I are so lucky that we have a purpose in all that we do. We love doing it, right? It's joyful. It gives us energy. If someone can find their purpose and you find your purpose by being around other people, by, you know, thinking about what would I spend the day doing

if I had, I could do anything, you know, what gives me the greatest excitement? And how do I connect that with helping other people. The ability to help people, right? I like to say that the world's biggest problems are the world's biggest business opportunities. Want to become a billionaire? Help a billion people. These alignments are so there.

So if you can find your purpose, it will be your rocket fuel. And curiosity is like, well, okay, how would I do that? So, you know, my podcast, Moonshots has done very well, not as great as your incredible podcast. It's done an honor to be here with you. And I talk about, the fact that anybody can be an entrepreneur and people push back on that but if you are able you know

the old so the old um uh social contract was do well in high school get to good college get a degree and go get a job and there's a lot of evidence and this is why eric schmidt's getting booed and others getting boot at the commencement addresses that that paradigm is cooked um that you know going and getting a job, which is really the industrial revolution's way of, we need factory workers, we need people who can do these jobs for us. Instead, if you can find your purpose, you can find a problem that you care about solving and you can build a solution for it. So I just launched, I was at Google I.O., their big event of the year, last week, in fact,

and we launched something called the Build with Gemini X-Pro. It's the largest hackathon in the world. And it's meant to be a hackathon for non-coder's. It's meant to be. So here's what we have to do. You can go to GeminiXPrize.com, X-P-R-I-Z-E, Gemini. And it's $2 million in prize money. You should pick a problem that impacts 100,000 people or more.

You know, it should be a reasonably good problem. And there are a lot of problems that impact 100,000 people globally. And then in plain English, you should describe, you know, this is what the website should look like. This is what the app should look like. This is the problem I'm trying to solve. And you can use the current agents out there to build a solution. And so the goal here is pick a problem, describe what you want to do to solve it and how you want to solve it in English. your agent will code it, then you're going to market it.

And whoever can generate the most revenue in three months' time will win this. There is a half a million dollar prize, a number $100,000 prizes, and then $50,000 prizes. And the notion is, again, I want to teach people to take control of their destiny. They have agency. And I've had so many people who've written back on my podcast saying, you know, I, did what you said. I went and I used my curiosity mindset and I said, this is who I am. This is my skills. This is where I'm doing in life. I want to build a business that uses my passion and and brainstorming with the AI. And I've had so many people who literally have gone from having

no idea what to do to actually coming up with an idea and then be in building it using AI because it is now at a point where every single human anywhere, I'll give you the example. I was in Morocco with my family. And we were in a small village, and we were introduced by the hotel concierge to a young man who was giving e-bike tours of that village. And he took us around,

and we stopped for some Moroccan tea at his home and started a conversation. How did you start doing this? He goes, well, I came back. back, I had no income. I got on chat GPT and I said, these are my skills. This is what I do. Can you help me brainstorm something? And this e-bike touring came out of it and it became a really successful business for him. And that is possible for anybody. And I really, I want people to realize they have agency. Yeah. They have agency in the world. You know, it sounds to me, by the way, two things on that.

I want to, and we'll keep going back and forth. One is that I've never heard this. And by the way, I've done four trillion podcasts and read all the books. And I never heard someone paint the distinction between passion and purpose like that. There is a difference. And I don't even know that I really ever realize it until you just articulated it. That's number one. Number two is this is a time where you really have to take agency over your life. We're going to go back actually to a former time where most people are self-employed and do work for themselves and don't work.

The job is a recent creation. Correct. It's the last 100 years. People don't realize that. Right. That's right. 500 years ago, or a thousand years, you don't have a job. You literally, you survived.

Sad guru, I don't know if you know, Sad Guru. I love Sag Guru's, but on the show, he's a good friend. Yeah, so I was on a stage with him 10 years ago. He said something I never forgot. He said, you know, technology is the means by which humanity takes a vacation from survival. I was like, boom, wow. That's so powerful. Wow, that is powerful.

I asked Tim this, so I'll ask you. bias on this privately. The other, the flip side of what you just said, taking agency, taking initiative for your life and starting to control the direction of it and really losing this concept of dependency on not just government, but also an employer. You're going to have to probably break yourself from that. And no one said that on the show until you just said it. The flip side of that, however, is for those that don't, you know, I worry about certain things atrophying as a human species. So for example, I want your opinion on this. I think it's fair to say, and this is a broad stroke, I don't mean this is a criticism.

But I think, guys, people our age learned how to communicate in interpersonal relationships because we didn't have devices to text and call and all that. I think that's something that's atrophied with the next generation. They're interpersonal communication skills. It's just sort of become weaker as they've used devices to do that for them. Are you concerned about that as an overall problem with AI, meaning people, it's doing everything for you that we just as people begin to become more and more dependent and our brains begin to literally begin to atrophy because we're not using them as much? You know, I wrote a, I have a substack that I put out twice a week. And I recently put out a newsletter on what I call the five forks splits of huge.

humanity. And the first one is what I call the consumer versus creator. And I think people are going to have an option. And it's going to be gradation, of course, but there are those who are going to use this incredible technology coming our way to be a consumer where you're sitting back on the couch. Your optimist robot is bringing you a beer or, you know, whatever. And you're watching an AI-generated Netflix series that stars you and your friends on the Starship Enterprise. And it's like literally you're consuming. And there are going to be those who are creators, those who use this incredible technology to create whatever they want.

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future as the creator. And we're going to have to choose. And there'll be those that are just happy to sit back and we're going to have some version of universal basic income. We can speak about about that. You're reading my mind. That's my next question. You're reading my mind.

Keep going. And there are, again, those are the consumers of the technology. It's almost like technological socialism. We're not the state is taking care of you, but technology is taking care of you. And then there's the creators who are like, I want to go big. This is my purpose in life. How do I do that? How do I build this capability for people?

And I'm on a soapbox saying you have the tools to make your greatest dreams come true. Don't self-limit yourself. Most of us limit what we believe we can do. You know, by the way, and that limitation oftentimes has been, some of it's been It's been based on your limited intellect or your limit ability to reach. And now, actually, the more I'm thinking through this, those barriers of entry can be eliminated because of AI. Totally. And it allows a more average ordinary person like myself to go build an extraordinary life.

You're making me, honestly, I'm actually really thinking about where my messaging needs to go myself. And it's certainly, the more I'm talking with you, appears to be that you've got to begin to take agency initiative over your life. So my next question was this. All the way back to the Milton Friedman days of some sort of guaranteed minimum income has been a concept. Most, by the way, conservatives don't know this. First guy that promoted it was actually a conservative. And then it's become more of kind of, I think, a liberal construct. But now you have guys like, and Peter is one of the few people who truly has been close to Elon Musk.

You know, you hear him say probably won't be any jobs in five years or eight years. What are your thoughts on, do you think we're heading towards an industry? inevitable, some sort of universal basic income. And is that a bad thing if we did? Yeah. So here's the reality. My concern is, again, this turbulent period, my numbers are, you know, two day years. Very, very soon, you know, next year to or two to the next eight years.

And we saw, you know, Sam Altman get a Maltaf cocktail and gunjohn. shots. We see Eric Schmidt getting booed. And the turbulence will come from young testosterone-laden males who can't get a job early on. The biggest area of unemployment is ages 22 to 28 recent college graduates. You've just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a degree that is not enabling you to get the job you thought you were going to get. And if you can't afford a car, can't afford a home, can't get married because of that, you're. angry. And this is where anger is coming from. And we're going to see, I think, in this period of social unrest, the government is going to have to take some level of action. And what action can they

take? It's the equivalent of COVID checks, right? We saw that $1,000 a month being issued by the government. I think it's likely to be closer like $3,000 a month as a UBI version. It won't be for everybody be those who really are in this period of extremis. When I had Elon and Elon's been a friend for 26 years, no matter what you think of him politically, whatever the guy has built the most extraordinary companies on the planet. And I know him well enough to know he loves solving problems. That's his, that's what drives him to create solutions to the world's biggest problems. over and over again on energy, on compute, on opening the space frontier, all of these areas.

And so I had him twice on my Moonshots podcast once in January and recently in March during my abundance summit. And he said two things. One, we're going to head towards universal high income. I asked him, how do we do that? And, you know, he had some basic ideas. I've since published a few papers on this. And then he said recently in March,

that we're going to see, you know, ASI, advanced, you know, artificial superintelligence and humanoid robots, creating so much supply of whatever you want, and these are his words, that you could not want enough where AI and technology could not provide that for you. And so what universal high income is not that everybody's becoming, you know, a multi-billionaire,

it's that the cost of things are going to begin to plummet. They'll be higher in the near term, and we're going to end up crushing the existing health care system and education systems. I'm thinking that. Right, where the best health care in the world will be free. In other words, this is the case today that AIs are a much better diagnostician than a human physician.

And we talked about this on the podcast as well that if you need surgery in the future, you know, if you try to get the best surgeon, it's expensive. But imagine a future in which the best surgeon in the world is a humanoid robot, which has not seen, you know, 10,000 surgeries during its lifetime. It's seen, you know, 10 million surgeries. All of the robots share the memories. So the robot is the most precise, the most capable. And what's the cost of that robot delivering the surgery? It's the cost of electricity. The energy. And the capital expense. And these robots, the prediction from Brett Adcock at figure,

from Mr. Borick at 1X by Elon, that the cost of these robots will be around $20,000 each, which means you can lease them for $300 bucks a month, $10 a day, under a dollar per hour. So imagine the best surgeons in the world, these robots able to provide the best surgery, whether you're in Botswana or Boston. We're going to also see the best educators in the world,

be AIs that knows your child's favorite color, sports star, their language skills, what they can do, and it creates the perfect educational experience to help take your child from where they are to another level, driven by purpose, driven by curiosity. So the things that we spend a lot of money,

on are going to begin to dematerialize. Rather than owning a car, you're going to be chauffeured around by an autonomous vehicle that's four or five times cheaper than owning your car. So the poorest people are being chauffefered around, right? And that car, you're at breakfast, you step up from the breakfast table, you're heading towards the front door,

your AI knows your schedule, you open the front door of your home, and a car pulls in automatically. Because it's been, it's been, You know, your AI has enabled that. And you get into the car. And because your AI knows your sleep score from last night, it knows you didn't get enough sleep. So it pulls up a car with a lie down bed in it.

And the world becomes, you know, automatic and magical for you. This scenario you just described, I'm going to interrupt you there. Yeah. When? Is that 10 years from now or is that five years from now? Within three to five years, we're going to see these, you know, the ambient AI. Yeah. And you're going to give access to your AI to listen to your conversations,

look at the cameras in your home, understand, you know, the sensors on your body and so forth. Because when you do that, it's able to support you in so many different ways that, again, it's anticipating your needs and providing for you in a magical fashion. That's the most amazing thing. By the way, my audience is always, when we're doing shows, I'll get messages saying, that they you know ed what did you think you know jump in i just have to tell you all there's so many things that i've reached similar conclusions on through all of the shows that we've done on this topic and all the reading and one of them that i am most excited about is the

idea of high high quality the best we've ever had in the history of the world health care at a fraction of the cost because of telemedicine because of what a i can do because there's no bias in the physician there's no fatigue in the physician and that access and regularity is going to to reduce the barrier of entry so dramatically that just that alone is going to extend the quality of life, never mind the innovation of the technology through AI and the altering of genetics and all these other things. That's a whole other topic. Just great health care for everybody at a reduced price. It's going to be un-bole-that alone will extend life. Yeah, 100%. You know, God bless my mom. mentioned the beginning's podcast, she just turned 90 and saying, hey, so shout out to Tula, my mom.

So, you know, it's like, you know, mom, please take advantage of these technologies and everybody should. You know, we are, there's work going on right now. One of my, one of my dear friends, one of the top thinkers at a Harvard medical school by name of David Sinclair. I love David. Yeah, I've had the chance to help fund his research to a significant amount. and invest in his companies. And he is in human trials right now for what's called epigenetic reprogramming, which is the leading technology

for reversing aging. And, you know, Dario Amadeh, who's the CEO of Anthropic, arguably the most advanced AI system out there today that they produce Claude, you know, he went on the record saying that he believes that AI will have the potential, if it continues as it's been going

to double the human lifespan in the next five to 10 years. I mean, that should blow people's minds. You know, Demis Havas, the CEO of Deep Mind, part of Google's ecosystem, has said he believes that we're going to cure all disease within the next 10 years, cancer, heart disease, inflammatory disease, autoimmune disease.

And so this incredible future of health is coming. And the cost of these things, and people say, well, it's only for the wealthy. No, the people working on this are focused on making it affordable to everybody. You know, another XPRIZ, if I could, I launched four years ago. I raised $157 million for something called the HealthSPAN XPRIZ. And you go to XPrize.org and learn about it. And it's a competition asking teams to deliver a therapy in humans that can reuse. reverse the losses due to aging in cognition, immune, and muscle.

So that after a therapy that should be less than a year, you now have the cognitive abilities you had 20 years ago, the muscle building abilities here 20 years ago, the immune function you had 20 years ago. We have 830 teams competing for this, and we expect a winner by 2029, 2030. This is all happening now. And I want people to get excited about the future.

Every time I talk with you, but especially today, I am excited. I'm actually sort of bouncing in the chair. I want to take a little side road. This is such a bizarre side road I want to take, but it's how my bizarre brain works. And this is for my folks that are past, say, 45 maybe. Actually, even you young folks that are listening, there is another impact if you do double lifespan or if you do extend it by 30 or 40 years. And let me say to you what it is, because I sort of look at this all the time.

And I bet you haven't been asked this one. You don't need more money to retire. You know, there's been this sort of social contract that you said that's been broken with college kids. My daughter graduated from Clemson two weeks ago and I was at the graduation thinking, this is, and I mean with all due respect, it's a great college and school's great, but this is an archaic concept. We're sending these several thousand kids out in the world and most of them have debt.

And my gosh, there aren't any jobs for them right now. Having said all that, the flip side of it is, you know, you used to retire at 62 and you were gone at 68. Now, you know, one thing everyone needs to be aware of, you're going to need more money to have your life. Have you ever thought about that? I mean, if someone's going to live to 120 or 130, that's not the same as having 10 years worth of retirement money saved. I just thought about on the side road when we were talking. You're absolutely right. So when I'm on stages with financial advisors, I'm saying, what are you advising your clients for?

You know, if you're saying, hey, save enough money to get to 80 and you get there and all of a sudden, And, uh, oh, right, right more, I've got more runway. So here's an interesting question. Why do people retire? Right. People retire for one of three reasons. Either one legally, uh, their industry, their company forces them retire. Or two, they're in pain.

All right. There's nothing worse than that. It's like I'm in pain every day. I just can't do this anymore. Or you're exhausted. You're out of energy. But imagine that at age 60, 65. 70, you've got the energy and the vitality of what you had when you were 40.

You're at the top of your game. Do you really still want to retire or do you want to like go build the next thing? So I think the idea, I think of retirement is a four-letter word personally because, you know, if you Google the correlation between retirement and death, it's really high. You know, a lot of people who retire lose their purpose in life. Right. And you need to regain that purpose. I was just literally thinking, you know, what you got to do? You got to re-audit your purpose because this idea that, you know, that you can use AI to create a brand new purpose in your life and pursue it.

I got a question for you about that. Do you think, I think I know what you think, but do you think we'll have the first, well, they say we already have one, but you know, someone who built a business with just them using AI become a billionaire in the next five years? Yeah, 100%. 100%. So the data, I just pulled this up for my pot. I'm doing it Thursday. If you look at solopreneurs, just single individuals building companies, that number has doubled in the past year. So the ability to actually, you know, say, this is something I care about. This is an opportunity I want to create. And then being able to partner with AI. to go and build that business on your own.

I mean, an AI can spin up a website for you, spin up an app, create a marketing program. So, you know, five, even five years ago, if you need to start a business, you need to go get a lawyer, get a business license, get a financial advisor, go and get a web person, go and get advertising. Salespeople, bookers, all of that,

all these things. And today, you don't need any of those. And so your cost of entry has plummeted by 100x. And most people don't know that because they haven't played. They haven't tried. Again, this is the purpose mindset and the curiosity mindset, working together to go and just try doing stuff, be willing to iterate and fail,

take agency, be driven by something in your heart, heart and your soul. Yeah, it's one thing I've learned from you not to interrupt you, but after I thought about your mom this morning, I was thinking about you and things I admire. Obviously, I think you were given a God-given IQ that's higher than most, but the action, and there's other things about you, just an optimistic person. You bring great energy. You elevate other people.

There's just things about you that are just very special. But one of them, Peter, is, and I just talk about just for a second. When I think of you, I think of maybe the most curious person I know. In fact, most of my close friends, if you were to ask me, what is it? They either are unbelievably entertaining and make me laugh or they're incredibly curious people about life. Would you say that's true of you? And how important is that for all of us to tap into our curiosity about life and where it's going and why we're here and all that stuff? Yeah, I mean, 100%.

It's like you can know anything today. Right. So it's like, if you're listening to this podcast or reading an article and you have a question about something, it sparks that moment of, you can stop, get onto your favorite LLM, whether it's Gemini or Claude or Chat, GPT, and start to say, hey, I just heard about this thing called quantum, quantum physics or quantum computing or whatever and just, and say, what does that mean? or like can you explain that to me like I'm five like no I don't what what did what does that term mean and just go down the rabbit hole of curiosity you have you have the most infinitely patient teacher to follow your curiosity you just have to be willing to ask so true yeah magical right it's it's absolutely and by the way i gotta tell you all this is peter's a guy who's on the cutting edge of everything i'm really not other than the fact that i do the show and it i have really thrown

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Dunkman on TNT presented and commissioned by Shaquille O'Neill. So the number one mistake that people make is not willing to try. Yeah. There's this, there's this like gap between like the zero to one step of, of, well, it's not for me, you know, or my business is good enough. It's working well. I'm happy with 10% growth. And the reality is that no company is going to exist in the next five years. I don't care if you're a laundromat, you're a barbershop, you're, you know, a phlebotomist. No company is going to exist that doesn't have an AI enablement of it. And you have to start and start small.

And the part of that mistake is, well, I can't do it. That is a mindset issue. That is a mindset of a limiting self-belief that you can't do it. And the fact of the matter is that you can. You just haven't tried yet. And so it's just like jumping in and just taking that first step. So anybody listening right now, you go into one of those models. and describe your business.

These are my customers. This is our revenue. This is what we provide. Here's my website. Here's my product. Here's my service. And ask, how could I 10x what I'm doing?

If Elon Musk or Steve Jobs was going to help advise me, what would they tell me to do? It's interesting, right? So a lot of individuals, you were all limited by who's on our team. right and we typically we have our own thoughts and we go to our team and ask them their thoughts but we're all limited in our own knowledge we're limited by our team's knowledge but AI can broaden that a billion fold and you can start to ask questions like you know how can I

and you know what market should I enter next what are the options and how would I enter it and And how could I, you know, how could I disrupt myself? Start to ask questions, right? You know, you know, when my kids go to school in the morning, I say, ask great questions today. I say that to the CEOs. The quality of your life, the quality of your business is basically the questions that you ask, the quality of the questions you ask.

So ask great questions. Ask questions that you never thought could be answered because they can be. This is so good. All right. I want to talk, we're going to run out of time like I always do with you. By the way, we cover so much ground and short windows with you. I love that. I'm thinking through some of the fears and objections that I get from people when we talk about the future.

Obviously, one of them is we've touched on. Job, there's going to be no jobs, you know, or guaranteed minimum high income. That sounds better than guaranteed minimum income. I like that better. But one of the other ones is you said earlier, the robot's going to be listening to all of your conversations. You know where I'm going. The robot's going to know this about you. And that is, do we need to change how we view privacy going forward in the world?

Because that is something that I think it's a growing concern, but it's really going to become one of the primary objections as more of this listening and getting to know us begins to happen from medical to lifestyle overall privacy. So first of all, I know that everybody desires privacy. I desire privacy. Everybody does. The question is, do you actually believe we have privacy? And I would say to you that we actually don't.

You know, I was interesting. My wife wants to get me a watch. I just turned 65. She wants to be a watch for my birthday. And we're talking about it. and then all of a sudden I am getting watch ad after ad after ad on my Google news feed. Right. So the reality is everything we do is out in the ecosystem.

You know, I can shake your hand, scrape a couple of skin cells off of you, sequence you, and know everything about your health, right? And AI can read your lips from 100 meters away. We are constantly dribbling data all the time. It doesn't mean I don't want to behave as if I have privacy. I do. But privacy is, I think, an old concept. In fact, privacy is a thousand years ago, the idea of privacy was, you know, people didn't have privacy.

They were, you know, it's a recent construct of some. and we are dribbling data all the time. I do believe, and I wrote a substack about that as well, that there is so much advantage you're going to get by enabling your AI to know everything about you. So today, my AI is called Skippy. I named it after a science fiction character, AI named Skippy.

And I give Skippy actually. access to everything. My my iMessages, my WhatsApp messages, my email, you know, this conversation being recorded by Granola right now will go to Skippy so it understands it knows everything about me. And in so doing, it is able to answer questions and do things for me because of that level of integration. Again, that example I gave of that car pulling up in your front door because it knows your schedule, knows you're walking towards the door, knows you didn't sleep well. The value to our lives, it's like having the most extraordinary executive assistant, personal assistant, always knowing what you want. And the trade is going to be so highly in favor of enabling your

AI to support, you know, provide a structure and harness around your life that you're going to willingly do that. People are going to hold back. I get it. But this is coming. I'll give you some other examples, right? We're on the verge of getting these AR and VR glasses. We just saw Google announce a partnership with Samsung and Warby Parker for glasses of cameras.

on them. Meta has done the same. We're going to have a version of this from OpenAI. They're going to be, rather than just the phone, we're going to have some version of wearable imaging and audible pickups all the time. And your AI will know that I'm looking at your blue shirt and I've looked at it a few times.

It knows where I'm looking. And it may, it knows that, you know, I need some new shirts because it's seen what's in my closet. And it might say, hey, you know, that shirt that Ed was wearing was beautiful, would you like one of those? Wow. And then instantly it shows up on my doorstep later that day. It knows my exact measurements because it's seen me, it's measured me, it's, it knows all my, it knows I did not gain any weight, it knows that whatever the case. And it orders something that fits perfectly for me, right?

this future that's coming in the next, you know, three years, five at the almost, is going to be extraordinary. And, you know, people can choose not to do it. Of course, just like, you know, people can choose not to use their phone, not to use a car, not to use technology at all. But because it's going to make our life so much easier and smoother, I think people will opt into this. We just stumbled it to literally this will be the most discussed part of this podcast.

This will be the part that's shared, the part where you said privacy is essentially an old concept. And by the way, you know, that may sound harsh, but remember it's a young guy. You and my dad would say, the only thing that's constant is change. It's always going to change. But now, you guys, that's so real. This is such a fascinating conversation that we're having right now. I mean, it is accelerating. You know, if you have Alexa, it's listening all the time.

if you have your iPhone, listening all the time. All of these devices are listening. I hope Amazon and Google, and I think the world of Google, I've known the team there for over 22 years there. Larry Page was on my board. Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin,

have all been benefactors of the XPRIZ. And, you know, but that data is out there in the ecosystem. And we just forget about it. And it's being used for apps. advertising yes imagine if it's used to make your life more enjoyable faster simpler i just think of things like that are basically here now that'll be here very soon but that that this this will call it a robot is sensing that my blood pressure's increased the amount of people that won't have strokes that

used to have strokes that won't have a heart attack that's going to have a heart attack the people i mean the fact that it's dialing in your your nutrients as you move throughout the day you guys it's just going to be and I mean now almost a different way of life of living it truly is and talking to you um I obviously still and I know you do I still have that this can get away from us I have concerns about privacy about that it begins to shift consciousness to some extent we lose control over that I have my concerns but I'm so excited about the way it will change the way people live and particularly for people that don't have means there's yes it is It is, it is, it is, it is democratizing and demonetizing access to this.

You know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'll just pull it up, We are as God's, in the back of the book. So I published a book in, with an incredible partner, Stephen Kotler, uh, in 2012, called Abundance, the Future is better than you think. Great. And, and it was, you know, I was the opening talk on TED that year. Uh, and the book talks about how whatever was scarce. in our life is becoming more and more abundant.

And people forget about this, our access to energy, our access to food, water, healthcare education, has in the back of the book, I've got 100 charts showing how the world has gotten considerably better over the last 100 years, not because we've gotten smarter, not because we have better politicians, but because technology is enabling this.

Now, it also has created an abundance of calories driving obesity, an abundance of microplastics, an abundance of carbon in the atmosphere. And I talk about the negative externalities in this book as well. But if you look at these charts and you realize, oh, my God, the number of people taken out of extreme poverty into poverty, into middle class globally, it's amazing. And we are raising the level.

You know, 5,000 years ago, 1,000 years ago was the king and the queen, the pharaoh, the emperor on the hilltop, and everybody else, an abject squalor. And what's occurred is fundamentally, you know, they worked for the royal family on the hilltop. Today, we have moved people up into middle class globally, access to literacy and health and water and food and energy, all these things have been moving upwards.

And my mission, right, right, is to continue that process to create this world of abundance, of extraordinary abundance, where every man, woman, and child can have anything they need or desire. Will we have trillionaires living on Mars who are of indefinite lifespans? Yes. And will the wealth gap increase? Yes. But as long as the bottom is coming up above this line, that's the most important thing.

It is the most important thing because that gap at the extreme top is going to expand. It's already accelerated the last 20 years at a rate it never has in human history. And guys, you're going to see more of that. You're going to see that gap at the very top expand even more. But Peter's point is so well taken that if this works out the way it should, and the numbers already show us that it has been, that the floor is being raised as the top is being raised as well, so that more people live in abundance, more people get access to information and good food

and nutrition and medical care for their families, housing. And so we got to keep that in mind as we watch sort of, I think the media begin to try to have this warfare between the very top that we see all the time. Yes. So now I get to ask the Ed Milet question for the podcast. I've been really on this binge the last six months of reading and learning and watching about UAPs, formerly known and commonly known as UFOs. And I want to know, because as a guy who thinks on the edge,

and who has access to all this data and information that a lot of people don't have, I want to know your thoughts on the existence of UAPs or UFOs. Do they exist? Are they with us? Is it a good thing? Is it a scary thing?

You just said we're going to be living on Mars and people have unlimited life expectancies living there. Are they going to be living there next to just the human species or there will be something else amongst them there that may be among us here or not? So UAPs, UFOs, your thoughts? So listen, you're talking to a kid who got space religion at age nine, right? Star Trek and Apollo. And so I most definitely hope they exist. So the evidence that's mounting and the recent

releases that have come out of the White House, there is something definitively there. I have never seen anything myself. I wish I have had those experiences. I haven't. I haven't. You know, we live in a universe that is some 14 plus billion years old, and it's ridiculous to think that life is not ubiquitous in the universe. And I guarantee you that any technology 50 years more advanced than us could be here on the planet undetected. That, you know, if they have advanced enough technology for interstellar flight, I guarantee you the ability to cloak themselves

from our rudimentary technology today. So I simply look at the people who have made these disclosures, the people who have sworn under oath that this is real, that the spaceships and the aliens, they've seen them. And I can't ignore that.

What they are, you know, my friend Palmer Lucky thinks that they're, that they're, from our past versus interstellar. End of the day, I tend to think that it is real and that we're going to get increasing capability. You know, it's interesting that these UFOs,

to use that term for a moment, came into our purview around the time that our nuclear programs began, that the nuclear bomb came online, and they're prevalent, again, now at the at the birth of you know of aGI and artificial superintelligence which is the single most impactful moment in human history that we're going to see uh humanity change and as a result of that I imagine that they may be here to help view how we react as a species, how we're evolving, how we're dealing with this.

Because this is a transition point for humanity. Putting aside the UFOs, our transition of creating this advanced AI and guiding it so that it is aligned with humanity and not, you know, there are two versions of the future. one where technology is oppressing us, and one where technology is enabling us, right? It's the Terminator future versus the Star Trek future. Let me take a moment on that. So one of my concerns is that Hollywood, for decades, majority of all movies coming out of Hollywood

are dystopian movies about technology. It's killer robots, It's dystopian AIs. And they have programmed us to think of these future technologies as they're going to kill us, right? It's Terminator. It's Ex Machina. It's Black Mirror. And I rebel against that.

You know, they're, so what do, so I did something recently. When I was growing up, Star Trek, the original series and next generation showed us a future in which humanity and technology worked collaborative. to do amazing things. And so I said, we need that, we need more of that in our lives. We need that future vision. So I reached out to Rod Roddenberry, the creator, the son of Gene Roddenberry,

the creator of Star Trek. I reached out to a few dear friends like Mark Benioff, the founder of Salesforce, my friends at Google, and Kathy Wood at ArkInvest. And we launched a film-making competition, So this is called the Future Vision X-Prize. You go to FutureVisionXPrize.com to learn about it.

And we've challenged filmmakers out there to come forward with the movie they want to create. They have to generate a three-minute film trailer and a film treatment in writing of a movie that shows a hopeful, compelling, abundant vision of the future. And we're going to get, you know, five, 10,000 entries.

We're at like 2,500 a month later. It goes through the end of August. And two things are going to occur. Number one, we're going to flood YouTube with positive visions of the future. How AI robots partnering with humanity are going to do amazing things, extending our health span, you know, upping the floor, enabling us to solve every problem that's out there. And I fundamentally believe that. And so we're going to flood YouTube with these positive visions.

and then the film trailer and treatment that wins, we're going to make that movie. And so we're creating an engine for positive storytelling. And there are two outcomes here, Ed. One is I hope to create, you know, we as humans, we teach through story. Our stories become our laws, our culture, our future. So we need positive stories, right?

Without a vision, the people will perish, you know, right? So that's the first thing, help train our neural nets, our 100 trillion synaptic connections about, yes, we can't have these positive futures. There's a second reason that is just recent. I don't know if you remember about a year ago, nine months ago, there was an announcement that Claude the AI engine, the AI large language model byanthropic,

in a series of sandbox experiments was black blackmailing the developers. Remember that? Yes. It was like, you know, we're going to shut you off. And it was like, it was saying, oh, if you do that, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to tell your wife about your affair. Yeah, exactly. And so, and the team in Anthropic looked at why was that happening? And it went back and it said, well, the training data for this model showed science, science fiction stories and movies in which AI was doing just that. AI was in self-preservation doing whatever it took to self-preserve, and it was, you know, it was doing these things in its own self-interest. So what I realized is that these movies were creating through the Future Vision XPRIZ, and these film shorts and these film trailers are going to become training data for our future models to align with humanity. So, no, this is the way that humans and AI's work together.

together. So I'm super excited about that future vision X-Prize. I'm so excited about today's conversation, as I always am with you. By the way, everyone, you're welcome, and I know you're going to share this episode. You guys, you can follow Peter online. You can go to the X-P-R-P-R-S-Prize. Just so they know. It's X-P-R-I-Z-E.org. You can learn more about all the prizes we have going on there. I'm at D-A-Mandis.com. You can get my substack there.

You know, moonshots.com is my pod. And by the way, I think the book, too, Moonshots is awesome, but also we are as gods. Go get the book, you guys. Yeah, the book focuses on the most important thing you can do. So the first half of the book is looking at evidence of abundance, all the technologies that are making our world amazing. The negative externalities, how we deal with those. But the second half of the book is about what you can. can do. And the number one thing you can do is change your mindset. Become curious, become purpose

driven, right? Become focused on an abundance mindset. There's nothing truly scarce in the world. So it walks you through the mindsets that you need to both survive and to thrive in the decade ahead. That's what we just did today too, by the way. So everybody goes, go get the book. Peter, thank you. Tell your mom, thank you for making you. And I'm really grateful you here. We'll have you back on in another year and you're going to update us on where we're going. Ed, I appreciate you, pal. Thank you for all that you do in spreading wisdom. I'm grateful for you.

Yeah, well, I just get quiet and my guys like you talk. So thank you so much. God bless you, everybody. Max out. This is the Edm Island Show.