The Edge Breakfast - AMERICAN LAWYER SEAN KENT ON THE EPSTEIN FILES...

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

This is a podcast from Rover. And Sean Kent, our American lawyer who breaks down some of the most complex Hollywood stories, joins us on the show this morning because we keep hearing all about the Epstein files and what they are and who's going to go down for it and when they will come out. We have no idea. Sean hopefully does. Morning, Sean. Hey, how are you doing?

Doing great. So good. Did you hear your friendly voice on this? I can hear from you guys. I thought we broke up. I haven't heard from y'all in so long. Oh, we didn't want to pester you. I felt like we were becoming a bit too cling-onish.

We're waiting for the story worthy of the Sean Kent action, and I think we're well and truly there, my friend. Yeah. So the bloody Epstein files, it looks like the tides are turning. There was a bit of pressure on old mate Donald Trump, who went from saying, I'm going to release the files to. The files are a Democrat hoax to, yes, we should release the files. So in your opinion, why is the change of heart?

Why has Trump all of a sudden said we should release them? There's no doubt in my mind. It was the court of public opinion completely influenced him. And when you realize he was going to, what he had always hoped was at the House and the Senate and he had enough of his Republican colleagues that were going to make sure that they voted against them so he never had to vote. And if he was going to be seen as the person who was the only holdup, it would have destroyed him. reputational wise because people tend to forget when this election went down

he was the first one who brought up the Epstein piles he was bringing him up against Hillary Clinton that was his whole thing and so if he's now seen as the person who is trying to keep them out it would destroy him more than his reputation has already taken a hit over here if the rumors are true and he is

his names littered through the files what are the chances of old Trump wriggling out of this one again I think the rumors will be true. I think there will be a lot of individuals mentioned. The question will be how will they be mentioned? And President Trump is smart enough to understand that just being mentioned in the files are enough to ruin you politically. Because it doesn't matter what says.

Your name just being mentioned, people are going to draw whatever. The same thing we're all doing right now. And he's just mentioned in there and mentioned visiting Epstein Island, hanging out with Epstein. That's going to be enough, especially all the stuff that's going on with him and just Lane Maxwell. So I just don't know. That's a great phrase, will he be able to wriggle out of it? I doubt it because the best way to look at it is the people who hate him are still going to hate him. The people who like them are always going to defend him. But Sean Kent, what about the statute of limitations? Is there anything from these files that would go back

so far that even if it does come out, there's nothing that can be done from a law perspective? what a great question and it really and i hate to sound like the lawyer but it depends because generically there are no statute of limitations on crimes depending on what crime that you are dealing with like if you remember our ditty situation all of the things that he was accused of doing happened out in california and there were statute of limitations on that but the federal government was able to come up with creative ways to get things that he was accused of some 20 and 30 years which long and short means if the government wants to get you

they can come up with creative ways certain things are not immune from prosecution and I'm not don't catch me as I'm making any excuses but let's say there is something accusing him of doing something with some underage women

there's not going to be a statute of limitations on stuff like that wherever that occurs if that's an accusation something can always happen is there a world in which when these files are released we get it so heavily redacted or edited that maybe things are taken out? Or is the version of the files that

will be made public, is that going to be in its kind of original form? I think given what has happened and all of the eyes that are on it, I don't think we're going to get the redacted versions. I think we're going to get the unredacted, what the grand jury looked at. And from what I understand, what Congress has signed, that's what they have signed, unless it is the protected name of a victim or an underage victim, of course, that information always has to be redacted. But absent something specifically dealing with the victim, which the law requires it to be redacted, or the age of the victim, which the law requires it to be redacted, now we're going to get everything.

And so do you think, in your opinion, Sean, just lastly, if it's not redacted, are we seeing the demise of Donald Trump? Yeah. Oh, 1,000%. I think if you were over here, you would see just things that are happening, our latest. There was an indictment against the FBI, former FBI director, Comey, and an attorney general, Leticia James. We had a judge thrown that out. The power structure that he formerly had is eroding in front of us. And it's one more brick on the wall. I think if this happens anything bad, I think you've seen the end. And I think you've seen the end, not just of Donald Trump. but of the MAGA movement in general because he has lost so much power with everything that has gone wrong. In now, Sean, we are getting so many texts through from people here in New Zealand. And I think maybe we actually might need to just, I know we've got you for a short amount of time, but if it's possible, because people are some, we assume knowledge, right?

We assume that a lot of people are as invested in this as we are. Maybe there are some people listening live that actually don't have a very clear understanding of what the Epstein files are. So I'm so sorry to rewind, but I think you're the person to do this. if it's possible for the uninitiated, can you give maybe a one-minute explanation of what the Epstein files are? Sorry to kind of rewind on this. Yeah, no problem at all. And I think it's fascinating because we hear the Epstein files like they are the great harbinger of what's going on.

But generally what happens in America is when someone is accused of a crime and the government is trying to get them, they have to get all the information that they need. When they get the information that they need, it's usually secret information. And why? Anytime you've ever watched any television show, every cop show, they all say the same thing. We cannot comment on an ongoing investigation. Well, this ongoing investigation was the investigation into Epstein. When the federal government starts coming after you, they usually come after you for years and years and years. And they interview witnesses. They interview victims.

They go and visit these islands. And so what the Epstein files are are literally the cavalcade of that investigation. What made this even more interesting is other states had federal charges against him. Florida had federal charges against them. What makes Epstein's hot file also very interesting is he cooperated with the federal government and named names, gave information, gave statements, which he thought was giving him an immunity agreement. Well, another federal agency says, you're not getting any immunity, and they didn't give him the immunity so he would be free from prosecution, and he ended up being prosecuted. So the Epstein files are all of that investigation, the grand jury testimony, statements from Epstein, telling people that he had done stuff with. And that's the biggest thing of the Epstein file is once you are given immunity, the rule is you tell us everything and we won't use it against you.

So presumably there are statements from him himself from the grave telling every nasty, abhorrent thing he possibly could have done. And who we did it with? save himself and who he did it with. So realistically, when we say the Epstein files, it's everything that if he would have gone to trial, the federal government would have used against him. That's why people are so interested in it, because right now we're speculated. But it would be from the horse's mouth. I hung out with Bill Clinton.

I went with Donald Trump. I got donations, Jolaine Maxwell. And he did all of these things. And people are like, well, how do we know it's trustworthy? Well, it's trustworthy because he would have done it to make sure he wasn't getting prosecuted is why it would have been in there. And of course, another government agency said, sorry,

you did that to them, not us. And that's why what's in the Epstein pilot, everything the government would have used to convict him had he gone to drive. Oh, it's going to be, it's already going down as the biggest political story of our generation. I think this could be the finally, could be the thing that brings... Give it a quick Google. It's super

interesting. It really is. Sean, thank you so much for chatting with us. We'll chat to you again as it unfolds. I hope so I miss you guys. Like I said, I had little friends and all of a sudden he left me. How could we do that? We'll have you on again, I'm sure, about this. Yeah, at Kent Law Firm on TikTok if you want to follow Sean.

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