The Edge Breakfast - EXCLUSIVE: Yas & Hot Cait chat to Jamie from MAFs!

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

This is a podcast from Rover. Very excitedly. It's Katie and Yaz, by the way, and we are joined by Jamie from Maths. Hello! Welcome to The Edge. We are such big fans. Now, I'm going to premise, I actually haven't watched Maths, so this is kind of awkward, but I have seen so many videos on TikTok and all the videos are of you. So I'm very obsessed. Katie is the and all the videos are of you. So I'm like very obsessed. Katie is like the biggest maths fan in the office. So we're excited.

We're ready. My first question and, you know, Elliot, is he good or bad? Do we hate him? Do we love him? What's the vibe? I actually love Elliot. So do we. So do I.

Love Elliot. I love Elliot. So do I. Love Elliot. I love him. Honestly, like I remember when it was airing and people, like my family would be like, do you speak to Elliot? I'm like, yeah, I do. And they're like, you speak to that guy? Because he was like public enemy number one at the start. But you

gotta give it to him. This man came in with every single person having a problem with him because of how he treated Lauren and yet he left with pretty much everyone except his ex-wives, friends with him. That is very impressive. And I guess that was all based off Lauren's opinion, right? Like you guys only knew how he treated her based off what she was saying. And now we understand Lauren's perception of events are very distorted.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. And kind of similar, well, I guess this is a whole other thing, but Dave, your partner, how are we feeling about him now? Well, I will talk about how I was feeling in the moment, which I believe you guys are up to. Yeah, true. Partner swap.

Partner swap. Yeah, yeah. No spoilers, no spoilers. So during partner swap, obviously that was our first time uh with a bit of separation so that was different um I guess like at that point in time I just dropped the l-bomb so I was in a pretty good spot I was pretty happy um by the way I thought was so awesome because I feel like so often with like girls and guys it's always like okay well like the guy has to say it first or like the guy has to ask, you know,

the person at first. But like I said, I love you first to my boyfriend. Like, I think we should normalize that. I love that. So all props to you. I love that. I mean, I didn't want to gatekeep and I've got, you know, some people online like, oh my gosh, it's only six weeks.

It was actually eight. I just want to clarify. Right. It was actually eight. And it's only six weeks. It was actually eight. I just want to clarify. Right. It was actually eight. And it's intense. I have no day job but to live with this man and literally, like, hyper-focus on my feelings. And then it was like, you know, bloody trauma bonding every day.

And, you know, Dave's been so lovely showing up in ways I've never had someone show up before, like, which is really sad on my end. No, but he was. He was. From what I saw, like, he really was. Yeah, like, he had my back. No, but he was. He was. From what I saw, like he really was. Yeah, like he had my back and everything which was amazing. Like my dating history is more like an Adrian's.

So like by comparison, I was like, yes, I've got a Dave. This is amazing. And so like in that place, honestly, it's dog years. Like weeks, a month. Yeah. It's very fast-tracked and I was like I'm not going to gatekeep. I'm going to be completely transparent with how I'm feeling. At that moment, yeah, I just wanted to be like, I love you.

I love that. Now, there are so many situations I feel like where you were so strong in yourself. You stood up for everyone and he really was really supportive. Do you think that because he was so supportive that made you more confident to go and

say all these things and be really strong in yourself or are you just like that more confident to go and say all these things and, like, be really strong in yourself? Or are you just like that all the time? I am definitely just like that. Like, I'm someone who I think in past relationships I was shut down quite a bit and I was, like, tended to always be, like, the villain in their story and, like, no-one could ever see my intentions. But then, like, dating someone like Dave who always knew where my intentions

were coming from a good place and that is exactly how I am. I'm not just like I'm just going to destroy this person's life because I feel like it, always for a good reason. And then, yeah, having his support definitely gave me confidence because I think if every week he was raising an issue like, Jamie, you go too hard, it would start to impact me. But he was right there behind me just cheering me on. I love that.

Do you think that, like, your past relationships and people not supporting you in, like, the way you are? Because it literally is just, like, the person that you are, which is so amazing. Like, what did those relationships teach you and then you went into a different situation with Dave or like you went into the relationship in a different way because of your past relationships? I think this is why I don't hold back and I put every part

of me out there straight away. Like day one of the honeymoon, I'm freaking out about my tan, exploding and crying because there's a bird in the lobby. And I remember Dave was like, I just love how she's just being herself. She's not trying to pretend that she's having a good time here. She's not trying to pretend that she's fearless. Like, no, she's got vulnerability. And I put it all out there.

And that's the thing I've learnt because I felt like in past relationships, it was always like, oh, you're not funny, Jamie. You're not this. Like, always trying to. It's always that. It's always you're not funny. No, you're not funny. You aren't laughing

at me I'm hilarious yeah like what do you mean so I yeah that's why I'm so bloody funny

I'm like now the whole internet I hope my ex is reading all those comments literally like Dave saying that and being like

I love that you're yourself the internet is like that like everyone watching is just like like you're awesome you're so yourself

and it show it so shows through the television as well which is so cool yeah I think that it is like that like everyone watching is just like like you're awesome you're so yourself and it show it so shows through the television as well which is so cool yeah I think that was my like yeah the biggest value of mine is authenticity and I completely let the audience into a really authentic version of myself like I went bare you know, I looked like homeless chic most of the time. I talked about my nipples. Like I did it all. And like, yeah, I had meltdowns because I was pale. Like that's just me. That's just being a girl. That's a universal experience, I think. Was there any moments where you're like, oh, I've taken it too far now? Or like you've done, you're like, oh, this was, maybe I shouldn't have said that or something like that.

Look, I think, I think the dinner party post-retreat was like pretty full on. But you know what? At the moment, I felt bad. But now watching back, I'm like, shit, I'm pretty iconic, aren't I? So iconic. Walking the mall. Left and right. It was like bang, bang, bang, bang.

Well, the thing is someone has to say it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And like the fact that you were the person, I think everyone was just like, bang, bang, bang, bang. Well, the thing is someone has to say it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And, like, the fact that you were the person, I think everyone was just like, yeah, yeah, amazing. You know, everyone watching, who cares what the others thought. Yeah, honestly, like, I remember I was really worried about the backlash because I did cop it from the experts and it really made me think, am I in the wrong here?

Am I the bad person? But they obviously didn't have the context. And so the viewers obviously see the context. But I remember like saying to my sister, I feel like I'm going to cop backlash. And she was like, Jamie, anyone that wants to give you backlash, your room is full. Tell them to go to like, you know, we don't need these people.

They can exit, trim the fat. And I'm like, yeah, we don't need you, Karen. Get out. Get out of here, Karen. What are you doing? Okay. I need to now look at the sheet. I feel like I'm getting so into it and I'm not even looking at what.

These are the questions from all the girls in the office. Okay. Okay, Lauren, is she really that bad? Because we seem like what we've seen, awful. Was she cut? Were the things that were cut to make her seem worse than what she was? Was she actually that bad? No, she was actually that awful.

Yeah. Like imagine having like a decade on someone and like, you know, resorting to name calling. Yeah. Like she came in with everyone championing her, including myself, which is like highly embarrassing now. And she was just had an issue with most of us from the start, especially me and Athena. I think people that tend to be like fake and mean don't tend to like me

and Athena because we're quite real and nice. Are you going to say how it is? Yeah. 100%. Call it out when you can. But also like with the edit, it's like you can't edit someone saying that someone else is boganic. Like what does that even mean?

I've never heard that before. You know what I mean? I mean pretty iconic kind of thing to create your own word. Yeah. I will give it to her. Like that's pretty cool. And I've, you know, I think I put one of my Instagram captions, like the Boganic bride. I was like, fair enough. I'll run with that. But yeah, like for me, I'm such a like to your face person.

If you had an issue, say it. I mean, I guess it's, it's really hard for her to be like, hey, I have an issue. You're being really nice to me. And I just think you're a Bogan. So I think she had to say it like, you know, to her talking to camera because, like, she has no legs to stand on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what are you actually angry about? What are you actually angry about? Like, what the heck?

I think they call this projection. Yes, I think I've seen this before. Have you guys seen each other post-show or, like, where does Karina sit amongst you three too? I don't see Lauren and, like, I don't really have a relationship with Karina sit amongst you three too? I don't see Lauren and like I don't really have a relationship with Karina like I guess I'm a couple you know we kind of obviously like moved forward but at the same time like the values I have in a friendship are very different to her values and that's fine not everyone's going to be best friends. 100%. Okay, we have to talk about this.

Jackie, so you were saying off-air that you aren't allowed your social media, right? Mm-hmm. But Jackie, I've seen so much of her posting about how she's taking Channel 9 to court and all that kind of stuff. What's going on there? We're a little bit confused. She's spilling the tea.

Yeah. Look, Jackie can do whatever Jackie wants to do. You know, if she wants to go rogue, go rogue. That's a Jackie problem. Everything she's saying, I can't really comment on, nor do I really care to keep up. Like she posts a million things a day and I'm honestly, I've got that many things to be focused on. I just let Jackie do Jackie. Yeah. I love that. Fair enough. Okay. Oh, we kind of talked about this, but I think I'll ask it because the girls definitely want to know. Seeing Girls' Night back when it aired, on reflection, would you have done any, well,

yeah, we kind of said no, you wouldn't have done anything differently. It was like, you stand in that. I wouldn't have done a single thing differently. Now knowing what I know, I honestly wish I went harder. And I literally, I would have just clocked every month. Honestly, I wish though in certain things I articulated myself a little bit better because a common theme in this group is you can talk really quietly and say awful things and that's okay. But if you raise your voice, that's when it's all an issue. So maybe if I was just calling her like, you know,

just awful, just awful, awful, awful creative things at a lower decibel, maybe I should have done that instead and I could have gotten really spicy. But it's interesting though because like I always think that reality TV is such a reflection of what it's like in real life as well. And I think it's like that in real life. Like, as a woman, you raise your voice and all of a sudden, she's crazy.

Like, no, I've just got a strong opinion and you can't take it. Like, that's actually kind of what's going on here. Yeah. I love that you're being like, nah, I should have gone harder. I don't, honestly, I don't regret it. I don't regret it. In the moment, I was made to feel really bad about it and I did really question myself.

But I guess seeing online, it's like online feedback's been very validating. Even like Abby Chatfield entering the chat and she made a whole TikTok on this and it's true there's such a misconception with being loud as aggressive or if you're loud, you don't have feelings. I'm actually highly sensitive. That's why I care so much. I get so involved and passionate because I'm very empathetic and I'm highly sensitive.

So it's just like, yeah, that was a tough watch, I reckon. Yeah, the amount of times I feel like I've, like, had an argument with, like, some of my boyfriend's friends and then gone back and cried about it and I'm sitting there like, they don't even care but they're just thinking I'm crazy or something. Yeah. But you know what? You waste too much time trying to prove

you're a good person to the wrong people and that's, you know, it's not my problem anymore. Put that on a t-shirt. Seriously. One final question. When deciding to go on MEFS or

thinking about what you want to do what made you go, yeah, I'm doing this, I to go on MEFs or thinking about, you know, what you want to do, what made you go, yeah, I'm doing this. I'm going on MEFs. I'm okay. I'm like a bit of a, like, I'm a bit of a spiritual girl. I remember, I don't know. I just had this feeling of needing to change up my life dramatically. I felt like I've done so much work on myself where I'm like, where is he?

First of all, where is the man? And then I'm like, there's a shift coming. I can feel it intuitively. And I remember like, I'm like a bit of a prayer and I'm like, God, what am I supposed to be doing? There's something that feels like I can feel something. And I remember getting this random thought about maths and I was like, um, maths, I wonder if they're even taking applications. Like I had no idea how casting worked, nothing, and I Googled it and I actually filled in my application on the way back from work. I'm like, yeah, I'm over this place. And then it just moved so quick.

I'm like, oh, my God, that means I can leave this job and get a husband. I was like, oh, my God, this is like I can have it all. And that's, yeah, I feel like I love unique experiences. I love doing something that feels like above an average life, I suppose, like something really cool that you can talk about. And so I thought, yeah, why not? Oh, my gosh. Well, thank God for that moment because we have loved seeing you.

You're amazing. You're pretty much all the girls here, their favourite character. Yeah. So thank God for that moment and thank you so much for coming in, Jamie. We love you. Thank you. Woo!