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Episode Date: August 6, 2025

This podcast description was blatantly written by AI... Join Clint, Meg, Dan, and Ash in a lively discussion about unexpected commitments and celebrity encounters. In this episode, Dan aims to hit the spot with Whitney Houston's iconic song, as he practices for his final shot after several misses. Ash shares a riveting story involving Jason Derulo, highlighting how far some people go to connect with celebrities. The team also explores the concept of relationship pacts, discussing personal experiences and theoretical ponderings about moving on after a breakup. Special guest, child behavior specialist Karen Campbell, provides insightful advice on raising children with healthy body images in today's social media-driven world. Tune in for engaging conversations, unexpected laughs, and relatable moments! 00:00 Introduction and Banter02:34 The OC Nostalgia Trip07:21 Crypto Conversations and Lost Fortunes10:22 First Call of the Day: Chelsea's 18th Birthday16:19 Tesla's Naughty Voice Assistant26:48 Debating the Reality of Rose from Titanic30:45 $10,000 Edge Money Contest31:37 Big Nick's Car Troubles33:41 My Best Friend's Wedding Pact48:20 Relationship Health Check54:09 Brad Pitt's Family Tragedy56:13 The Pressure of Perfection56:33 Celebrity Encounters and Stories01:00:43 The Edge 10K Money Game01:03:44 Friends Phoner: Moving On Quickly01:13:28 Hit the Spot Challenge01:18:23 Body Image and Social Media

This is a podcast from Rover. Not your mum's podcast, unless she's into absolute filth, in which case, respect. This is Clint Megan Dan's only fans. Podcast, that is. Clint Megan Dan with Ash London. The Edge Brecky. Hi-da, good morning. It is one minute to six on your Thursday.

Look, who's back, baby? Oh, good to be here. We missed you, darling. What did I miss? What have I missed? I mean Clint made out one time. That was pretty good. That wasn't even on here.

I've always seen two guys, I'd love to watch that. Yeah, it was nice. Yeah, oh, well. He's a bit taller than me. That's had a good tip-toe. Yeah, I've always wondered with that with couples when you get a short person and a really tall person. Logistically, how does that work?

Like Shaq. Remember he had that, like, she was like, I think she was half Thai or Vietnamese, teeny tiny. Yeah, because... And, like, went up to his knee. It'd be like Jack in the Bean store, couldn't it in the bedroom. Yeah.

I once had a chat to my friend who really loves tall women. And he said, it's like, what did he say? It was like something like climbing up a beanstalk. You just stopped climbing up all over them. And I was like, too much information. Well, because if you're logistically, if you're doing that, you'd be meeting them not at their eye level. You'd be sort of, the girl would be quite low down towards his chest.

Yeah, which might be good for him, ever even lower. Yeah. Anyway, I don't know how we've got here. But here we are. Me and Clint making out the car park. That's how we got here. It didn't really happen, guys. By the last, she's messaged through saying, good morning.

I missed you too, Marilyn. I missed you too, Marilyn. You know, I met Marilyn a few days ago. She had the best Red Bull Racing get-up I've ever seen. Like full vest. Like she was ready to change someone's tires. She looked like she raced for the team. Maybe she does.

She had more merch than the drivers. Love it. Okay, coming up on the show this morning, $10,000 to give away with easy money. Of course, at 7 and at 8. And Dan's got a little naughty 640 for us. I love when you get naughty. involves Tesla and naughty naughty talking

Oh In an Elon Musk voice Wow you could have it any voice you want Yeah, I don't want an Elon's He's gross You don't have to Clint Clint Meg and Dan Oh my gosh

Time for our 6am throwback This one if we do end up playing The one we've been talking about The whole time That last song from Tate McCraves playing Is 20 Well the show I think that made the song famous 22 years old today

Which made me feel very Very, very old. And we all, me and you, Dan, I mean, what's your name, Dan? Have both re-watched it recently? Mm, that's available. I think you can watch it now on, is it neon? I don't know, we watched it in Australia. We're talking about the O.C., though.

What a show. Oh, my Sandy Cohen. And the one pertinent thing we were discussing is that as a teenager, you watch it as a girl or a gay boy, and you go, oh, my gosh, Seth Cohen, or Ryan, you know, one of the two. And then when you're in your late 30s and you're a mom, you're watching it and you go, Sandy Sandy Cohen. Yes, Sandy Cohen, like, one of the greatest TV characters of all time, the perfect father. He is.

The whole premise of the OC is this kid that's from the bad side of the tracks. And he gets adopted by this rich family in the Orange County of Los Angeles. And the fact that they're like the mum's, like, Christian, I guess, whatever, and the dad's Jewish. So they have both. So they're like cool, rich Jews living in the OC. He's a real fish out of water, like the father. But we all love watching. when dads are like

loving and treat their kids and like but also have boundaries and that's why Sandy Cohn was so good he put his foot down when I would watch it again because I genuinely

even though I watched it religiously I honestly wouldn't be able to tell you what happened season one two or three it was 20 years ago it was a great TV show and I think it was good because you watched it and you wanted to be the kids in it

oh my gosh because they're rich they just live in a cool life in the Orange County and I think it kickstarted the career of a lot of a lot of actors as well, like Misha Barton, Rachel Bilsen was in it. She's gone on to Heart of Dixie.

Yeah. She's married to, are they still married Hayden Christensen? I don't think they are any more. Oh, RIP. Yeah, but Hayden Christensen was in Star Wars. Oh, then she went out with that comedian guy, Bill Hayder. Yeah, that's right. Oh, it's all coming back to me.

So you guys do want me to play it? Definitely, yes, thank you so much. It's just a song. Remember when Summer came out in a super Wonder Woman costume? Oh, so much. Surely that did something to you. Producy Colinson know if anyone wants a rosé. California, your 6am throwback, a little spicy that one.

That, of course, being the theme song to the OC, which is 22 years old today. I'm believe, Andy. Look, if you weren't here, Clint, I think me and Dan would probably just talk about the OC until 10 o'clock. Probably too much. Yeah, it would just become the OC breakfast show. Yeah, it still stands up as well.

If you've never watched it, maybe you're a bit younger and you've never watched it, give it a watch. It's so good. Because other shows at that time, even Gossiger, you watch this is awkward and dated. And like I said to you, Dan, I think part of it is because they all drove Ranger Rovers back then, and the Rangerover design

has not, it's a classic design that hasn't changed. It looks like they're driving cars in 2025. And the script, I think, was really good. It was just a solid script about real life. Yes, and Chris McCar. Yeah. God, I really could talk about it until 10 o'clock. I think you're going to have to wrap us up.

I can't stop. It altered my DNA. Where does it sit against, like, friends? Like, arguably, the best TV show. I mean, you're never going to be free. Let's be honest. But it is pretty good. It's a completely different premise.

But it just was so cool and so aspirational. But it also dealt with hard topics. And like Ryan, oh, I felt it was an orphan. Heartbreaking watching him, but then watching him being like folded into a new family and loved and welcome. So beautiful. Okay, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. You and Dan's dead enough. Imagine living in a pool. Imagine living in a rich person's pool house I know I know yeah You know we're like Oh Ryan like poor Ryan

No He got scooped up by a multi-millennial family Yeah right I remember that now I live in the pool house And then the hot girl was into him So he just At risk of that exactly

He had the biggest glowup Anyone's ever had Ever and then he's still trying to throw it all the way Because I don't know I watched it Oh my God This is just coming back to me I watched an interview recently

with Ryan, who's not an actor anymore, and he had some totally normal... I think he's like a politician or something. Because I remember he was talking. And I was like, God, he looks like Ryan. And then he kept... I was like, God, he looks like... And it was Ryan.

Okay, what is Ryan from the OC doing? Ben McKinsey. He played Ryan McKinsey. And I feel like he had an Irish accent or something. Like, it was such a change from the person that I knew that I was like, what has happened to this man in the last 20 years? I mean, there's no information online

that says he's doing politics. Maybe I made that up, but he was talking. It was either something, it was either he had an accent or I think it was the accent. Can you like, oh, I might have to Google it while wait. What's a pundit? A pundit is like a political person who's like, has an opinion on something. Well, he says he's become a pundit, discussing cryptocurrency on platforms like CNN. That's what it was.

He said he's still pursuing a successful acting career, but yeah, he's, and there's a time off. He's talking about crypto. That's what it was. It was like, that crypto, bro, look. like the OC guy. Do you know we shared like the top 15 least attractive habits for men and crypto was like

talking about crypto was like the third or fourth least attractive thing guys can discuss with women. I agree because no one understands it. No one like if you if I said I'm into crypto, I'm making millions of dollars people would be like oh yeah cool man. No if you said I'm making millions of dollars

Well I read yesterday about the guy who after 10 years has finally abandoned his search for the hard drive that he He threw away that had his crypto access on it. Yeah. A billion dollars. A billion. It'd be worth a billion, $950 million.

Didn't he actually, there was a new story. Like, he went to the dump site. He was trying to buy the dump site so he could just spend his life, like, rummaging through trying to find them. And he's given up. He's given up. You know, like, you know, people do treasure hunts. You know, like, you've seen bloody fools gold and, like, what's the one with Nicholas Cage?

I don't know. And they just literally go around trying to find the treasure. Imagine knowing somewhere in this dump is a, Billion dollars. You would? Would you be angry for the rest of your life? National treasure. Would you be angry for the rest of your life, do you think?

I would. I'd probably to the point where I'd just be like, why am I living my life? Honestly, like if I was searching around a dump for a Hewlett Packard little device, and even when you find it, you need to know the codes for it then. Yeah, and if someone else finds it,

they don't know what that is, they're not doing anything with it. He must know the code because otherwise he wouldn't be looking for it. And what I'd do is I'd employ a whole bunch of people and going, whoever finds it gets 10 million. Imagine that's a good idea. Don't do it on your own. That's what you need to do.

Because they can't find it and run off with the loot. $100 million, stuff it. Make it really worth their while. Produce Carl? I'm pretty sure that's how he did it because he still had the USB key, like the ledger thing, but it was the like 24 word pass phrase on a piece of paper that

he'd thrown out. That's what he was looking for. You guys could literally be speaking Italian right now. I have no idea How I would even start with crypto. I invested 50 US dollars this week and haven't told my husband. I set up a sharesies account. Oh, good on you. I just want to like do a little bit.

Should we check my sharesies? So I bought, I think it was $85 US worth of stock. I $85 New Zealand. Oh, it's down 1.3%. That's not a good look. So I've lost a bit of money. It was 0.4%. Yes, I'd made like 30 cents.

You know what they say? Shears fluctuate. It'll be down today, up tomorrow. Hopefully. Yeah. dish weight Yeah I don't know

which is worse The story that we shared About the guy You can't find a billion Or the other guy Who spent 10,000 Bitcoins on like a pizza

Back in the day When they were worth nothing And then you find out That now 10,000 Bitcoin is Yeah like over a billion dollars I can never eat pizza again

I would Can you never go to Italy No Never eat pizza Domino's is dead to me One point one four billion Unbelievable Although my local pizza place

Umu so expensive that a couple of pizzas is probably $1.4 billion. $38 for gluten-free pizza. First call of the day next if you want it to be you. 0-800 The Edge. I know somebody wants a special shout-out. Chelsea, I see your text.

You want a shout-out, babe. Give us a call. How you doing, baby? Come on, we'll celebrate with you next. 18 today. Hey, don't give her a shout-down unless she gets on the show. The Clint Meg and Dan podcast. Here we go.

Who is it going to be this morning? First call of the day. Chelsea. First call on the day. Good morning Chalce Thank you, hi guys Now Clint's got a little Oh yeah yeah I do

I had it all cued up And everything and I think I butchered it Had past 10 Oh hey Now it's a bit The ocean's feel Whoa Yeah now I know it says Kelsey

But you just need to use your imagination Chelsea Now isn't it a bit of a special day For you young Chelsea It is Do we need to sing you a song This morning, my love? Oh, that would be great concern

No one has So my and dad is still embedded We're the first ones to do this Oh, can you choose the key please down? Okay, let's go low Yeah, okay Because I have had a cold as well Are we doing this one?

Are we? Okay Go Chelsea It's your birthday We're gonna party like it's your birthday We're gonna sip a party Like it's your birthday And you know we don't give up

Because that's your birthday. I love that song. Come on, girl. Well done, 18 today as well? Yes. Wow, so you're going to taste alcohol for the very first time today? Yeah, sure, the first time. Yeah, come on.

How are you going to celebrate your adulthood today, Chelsea? I'm at course today. Oh, yeah. But then I'm going to go out for a nice dinner with my family. and whatnot, and then have a few drinks. Are you going to invite your boyfriend because it says here it's early stages. You're taking it slow.

He's a short king. Yes, he is. So does he come out with your family or is it too early stages yet? He hasn't met the fam just yet. But we are planning on it. How long have you been dating, Chelsea? About three-ish month.

Oh, okay. Nice and new. Oh, nice that you're taking it slow. And we've just started getting, like, close talk, talk, like meeting, talking and hanging out all day, every day. Okay. Have you said the L word? Is that the fun part? No, not yet.

I have almost said it, but I'm like, oh, last time I said, there's that they've all gone to shit. And I'm like, oh, yeah, let's not do this time because I kind of like this one. Do you think the guy has to say it first, or is like, whatever feels it? I don't know. I don't mind. I just think it can't go, like, straight away. You can't like say it straight away You have to at least meet both sides of the family

At least three or four times Hang out with your family Three or four times, what not Fair cool I like Chelsea's thought about it Yeah what are your family like though Who are you most worried about your partner meeting Um dad

Yeah Dad's always the tricky one eh That's happy my dad died when I was 16 Oh just so You never had to have that That's fine I'm over it Okay I mean that's a plus

It is a plus I mean, if you have to look at the pros and cons. Exactly. You've got to try and make the best of a bad situation. Yeah. I'm saying? I'm glad your dad's alive, Chelsea. You're in Pocino.

Do they still do giant ice creams? They do? Wow. They do. They really do. Before they put the freeway in, it's kind of like, you know, in the movie Cars, Ash. Yeah, yeah. We heard, like, Route 66.

And all of a sudden, they put in the highway and no one goes there anymore. No one went to lighting. Porkinore was like they used to drive through it, and we'd all get out. And for like $2.50, you'd have the largest ice cream you have ever eaten in your life. You'd have to end up sharing it. You'd get one between two. Are we talking about real fruit or just like a sugary?

Like tip-top. Like eight scoops on like one cone and you're literally walking back to the car trying not to drop it. Yeah, that's definitely going on the upholstery. They've changed that now. They don't do it on the cones. They give you like those big milkshake containers. You just spoon it.

It makes more sense. And the prices have gone up as well. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that's more sense. Inflation, baby. Inflation's part of life. You need to learn about inflation now that you're 18. Yeah, true. Oh, yeah.

It doesn't stop the line growing and walking everywhere on the sidewalk every day of the week, no matter what season or whether. If I could go back to when I was 18 and give myself some advice, Chelsea, as someone who's 39, I would say learn how to invest money and be a bit better with my money in my 20s. Don't, you know, put a little bit aside, not heaps, but it's a good feeling to get to 30 and have a tiny bit of a tiny bit. domestic. Get a shares these account.

Get shares these, babe. Yeah. I heard a guy talking about yesterday. Mom and dad decided for my, when I first started college, like year 10 or nine, that they were doing an allowance. I got given a certain amount of money each week and it would last me. I had to pay for my own clothes, all that sort of stuff, anything else that, other than that I don't share with the rest of the household.

And then any subscriptions, like my Spotify, whatever, and then it got taken out, but that was easiest way. and then I have to do that for the week. And it's been great to help save and sort out money because I used to just spend, spin, spin, spend. Good parents. And now I've been having to, oh, do I actually really need this right now? Well, you can spin, spin, spin, spend and Zed,

we're going to send you a voucher so you can go. And go on a bit of a splurge, buy whatever you like, babe. I like to get some cones from Pocono bacon. Yeah. It's ice cream cones. They don't do, they don't do cones anymore. Oh, there'll be a lot of cones in Pocinol. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Oh, yes. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, really back in. Hey, hey, let's save the naughty stuff for next. Nauty 640 coming up. What has Dan got to share with us? Clint, Mega Dan. Lesh goal. And it's time for Norty is 640.

Guys, we've reached the future. The future is finally here. Always in the future, though. As soon as we get to the future, we're here. I thought the day I'd know the future is here is when cars are talking to you. You know, like Night Rider? Remember that show with David Hasselhoff? who drive around in that car and his car had like a personality.

Yeah, and we thought self-driving cars, when that happens, it'll be like the Jetsons. Yeah, well, that happened like five, ten years ago, the self-driving. Terrifying. Now there has been an update in all Tesla cars. I know Clint, you're the only one on the show rich enough to afford one. Well, the only one that cares enough about the environment to not be just smashing more spoken to the ozone, guys. So anyway, there's a new update that's just come through over-the-air updates on the Tesla's

where it's got a voice assistant called GROC. GROC? GROC, GROC. What a weird name. And you can talk to this voice assistant while you're in the car, and it's got quite a, let me say, racy personality. Here's a guy talking to his GROC, to his Tesla on TikTok. Good morning, bitch.

Oh, good fucking morning to you too, you depraved bhaired. What's the vibe today? Want to talk about jacking off in a Tesla or shoving something wild up your ass to kickstart this glorious Lenthicum Heights sunrise? That's not real. I'm ready to get nasty and start a guide. damn riot. So hit me with your most unhinged bullshit. Yeah, riots.

Crazy, eh. Can I just say, given January 6 at the Capitol and she's wanting to incite a riot, very on brand for Maga. Yeah. Why can't Elon just work out how to make the batteries go longer? I think that's a little bit more tricky than putting a voice. Or not blow up.

Yeah. Oh my God. But I think it's a setting you can put in so you can either make it just so it's like a normal, like quite easy, easygoing. Oh, so he's ramped his right up. Like R-18, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Let's escalate the shit to apocalyptic level.

Picture us rolling through Lynthicum Heights, blasting death metal so loud it makes birds explode. With you wielding a dildo flame thrower. Oh, gosh, okay. I thought we got that neaps to beep some of that. Wow, does McGee, if you try to be naughty with Siri, she's like, I'm sorry, I can't engage in that sort of thing. Surrey's a boring. She's a prissy little beat. She's such a prude.

She's proper. Yeah, she is, isn't she? I feel like Surrey. is really, really sucks. Like, we've come a long way since Siri. I don't even use her anymore. If I say Siri, my phone could be like three kilometres away and they'd be like,

what do you mean? I'm like, go away. Siri will listen to you and start doing stuff and you didn't ask it to it. And then when you're like, hey, Siri. And then nothing. And hey, Siri. And then when you ask you something, it turns around and goes, here's what I found on the web. It's like, no. Hey, Siri, what do you think of GROC?

Here's what I'm. I found on the web. You bet. You see? She sucks, man. Yeah, she sucks. Chit-T, I think, is leading the charge at the moment, but not as sassy as the Tesla voice by the sounds.

I've downloaded so you can get it on your phone. And I've downloaded Groff. That's the most povo thing ever. You don't have a Tesla, but you still downloaded Groff. Just don't go on. That is Povo. Can I tell one good Tesla story quickly? My friend, A.B., not my husband, a girl, Annabel.

she had, or maybe she still has a Tesla and someone, she had two cars, a Tesla on a normal car and she was at home and someone stole the Tesla but she knew because she's like got an alert or whatever. She got into her second car and chased the Tesla down and hung up behind it on a freeway, got her app out and did that speed limiter.

So she limited her Tesla speed to like 30 kilometres an hour. So they're on a freeway and this car in front of her. I can't go faster than 30 kilometers an hour, calls the cops who were easily caught up with her, cornered the car and got the car back, and the guys got charged. What sort of idiots steals a Tesla?

They've got cameras all over them. An idiot! What an idiot. Yes, I think this will be new to car stealing. Yeah, you can have a little bit of fun. Like, when my wife gets out of it, and it's got a really loud, like, air horn on it. But you can control everything by the app.

So she gets out and she's taking the groceries out of the boot. You just hit horn. Oh, mate, it'll put the shit up there. What they? Bam! And she'll be, Glitin! You'll be screaming,

and it says, yeah, so you can just hit the horn over and over and over if someone was in your car. Yeah, I don't like that. There's a whoopie cushion as well. Yeah, you can make it sound

like someone's farted as they'd hop in. You can, like, have it play any of the front left, back left. It is. That is Elon must to a team. I went for a ride with Clint once, and I thought he had turned on the whoopie cushion, but no, he was just parting.

Yeah. Classic. Yeah. So there you go. If there's any other reason you needed to buy a tea, Heistler, there it is GROC, another reason. Or just download it on the Povov version on your phone and put it in your Toyota Corolla.

You don't even need the car. You can get the app. The Clint Migg and Dan podcast. Gossip and Entertainment. Scandal. Can either of you do a good Matthew McConaughey accent? No, I've always tried. Really?

Matthew McConaughey. He does have that soft, soft. He does have the whistle, yeah. What about that? All right, all right, all right. All right, all right. No, I'm not very good at all right. Yes, she doesn't. Can any of you do it?

Can any of you do it? Oh, I don't know. Pitch the ball up or give it a go. Oh, shit. Yeah, but it was. I say that because usually he's really good at this stuff. Can you give it a go, Clinton? All right, all right, all right. Also, she did I? I never said I was good, though, did I? No, no, no.

So if I was going to say to you, what is the most, like, well-known or epic male performance of all time in any film? Like, oh, the most, like, well-known film ever. What kind of films come to mind for you? Oh, good things. No, and gum and gummer. Definitely not. not comedy, just like... I know where you're going

with us and I'm going to say it for you. I feel like it's Jack and Titanic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Titanic's easily... Of our lifetime, I can't think of any movies that stack up as far as, like, quotability, like how much it meant in, like, cinema and culture at the time.

It's a perfect tool. I literally can't think of anything else that stacks up. Titanic's a perfect movie in the way that it's got this, obviously... Do you know the way he pitched at James Cameron to the film studio? How? He said, Romeo and Juliet on a boat.

It's true, though. And it's exactly like a rich girl and a poor guy, and they get together in this. I saw it like a day or two after it came out. So I didn't, obviously, as a child, I knew the Titanic sink. But I didn't know the ending because by the time of most people saw that film, they knew about the ending, right? I had no idea, went into a blind. I couldn't leave the cinema for like 40 minutes afterwards

because I was crying so much. My mom had to, like, take me out for pancakes, just bereft. Anyway. Most Gen Zsys don't know it's based on a true story, so he'd probably blow in their minds right now. Novelinose. Novel or not. She would, surely.

I hope she would. I'd hope so. So we did kind of touch on this. One of our favorite things is when you find out about actors missing out on big parts. And Matthew McConaughey was a frontrunner to play Jack in Titanic. It says come out in one of the filmmakers memoirs. Postumit. Postomis.

How do he say that way? Postumis three. Postumous book. So Matthew McConaughey came in to do a chemistry test because Kate Winslet was cast. She was already in there. She was Rose Dawson. Right.

Now we need to find the man. Is it Rose Dawson? And then we need a Jack. We need a Jack. Oh, take us back. Her name wasn't Rose Dawson at the start. But she changed her name as the year. That's right.

He was Jack Dawson. Oh God, just hearing that music. I'm iconic. I hear this is really improved as well. I'm flying. It's like a weird thing. Stunning. So Matthew O'Connor Kay, before Leo,

Maddie Boy comes in and he does his read and he said, we brought him into a scene with Kate Winslet. You want to check for chemistry. Not just how people look in their film, but how they interact. Kate was taken with Matthew, his presence and charm,

but he did the scene with his Matthew McCona Hay Southern Drawl. So they say, we loved it. That was amazing at this point. They're like, he's got the part. We just need you to change the accent because he wasn't Southern. And Matthew McConaughey turned around and said, no.

Oh, he didn't want to change? No. Didn't want to change the role? I'm a Southern guy. He's going to be Southern. And they were like, well, it doesn't make sense. So, sorry. And then they got Leonardo DiCaprio in. He'd just done What's Eating Gilbert Grape, a fantastic film.

One of the greatest acting performances of all time. Absolutely. And the Basketball Diaries. And he came in, and one read. they said it was like lightning from the sky, cast him on the spot. Wow, so it wasn't like a... But if Matthew had said, yeah, I'll drop the accent,

they wouldn't have even got Leo in. No, no, I said, cool, you're in, man. Yeah, crazy. And I'm so glad that happened because if you... I think the chemistry between Leo and Kate and that movie is so good. And you can tell, because they're still friends now to this day.

And I think there wasn't necessarily a sexual chemistry between them, but you could tell they had a real connection. But that's what I love about, like, it's like Jennifer Aniston and Adam Sandler. You can tell that they genuinely adore each other, but there's no sexual chemistry. And I love seeing relationships. I can't really think of any other examples in Hollywood at the moment.

But those two, it's like you love when they see each other on a red carpet or they shout each other out when they get in a ward and you just like, you feel like you're part of their relationship and your friendship because you were there when it started. I sort of feel like that with Meg. Oh, that's nice. Oh, a lot of chemistry. Absolutely no sclerative sexual energy between us.

I don't know. I can't speak for her, but I'd imagine she doesn't have any thoughts of me. Mr. Bang, she told me. But, you know, I do feel like some sort of connection. What I was Clint, Megan, Dan. Spinky Boo. We're supposed to do Dan's a Google history right now, and I don't want to be the one to, like, throw out the plan of the show.

But sometimes... So we're just talking about the Titanic, right, that Matthew McConaughey missed out on the role of Jack because he wouldn't do the accent. Thank goodness he did, because Leo was fantastic. Leo was fantastic. Now, Dan, what did you just figure out recently about this film? Well, when I say I just figured it out,

It was of three years ago. Yeah, but the film came out, what, 20 years ago? Yeah. In 1997, I know, because it's my second favorite movie. Okay, so it came out 28 years ago. Yes. And for 25 years, a quarter of a century, you thought... That the old lady rose...

In the movie. You know how it sort of crosses back between documentary and real... No part of this film is a documentary. It's people acting. The only people that stand with me, Ash, you're going to look like the idiot here. I thought for many years, and it was, I think, testament to the great performance of the old woman, that she was an actor. I thought for many, many years, that the old lady was legit on the Titanic and she was rose in real life.

And why did you think that even though it's a drama, like a fictional movie, why would you think that one of the people in the movie was really on the Titanic? Because it was filmed in a documentary style. So when she turns up on the helicopter and stuff, I was like, oh my God, this is fantastic. They brought her in for the movie. She knows the story. Yeah, but at no point do they say that.

But she's telling her story as Rose, right, and that she met this guy on the boat. And let's say Rose is in her 20s. Wouldn't you have done the maths and be like the Titanic sank in 1912? The movie came out in 97. So that's 85 years ago. So if she was 20, she'd be 110. I didn't do the math, obviously.

Yeah, but I would. She was so. See someone steps through? I'm with you. Two people, 100 cents. She's just a genuine... Can I just, like... What about, like, at the end of the movie

where she's, like, lying in her bed and then she wakes up and then walks out to the end of the boat and the cameraman's just perfectly there to watch her wake up and got the helicopter and the drone ready to watch her throw the necklace off, sorry, spoilers, necklace off the back.

I knew that she was playing it up for the bit. But I didn't think... I thought she was legit on the Titanic. That makes no... logical sense. I'll tell you what, it makes 100% logical things. It is a drama. It's a fictional film, and you've just decided,

even though they've at no point told us that this woman was really on the Titanic, you've just, it makes no sense to it, and I've never met anyone who thought that. She said she could still smell the fresh paint. The China had never been used. She knew. She's an actor.

Yeah, and Rose said that Leonardo couldn't fit on the door, but he could. She knew. And she, like, she was so. No, like her performance was so palpable. Because she's an actor. That's like the blind side, which is based on a true story. Like they have like Sandra Bullock and then they go and get the actual real dad and put him in

just so that he can make sure Sandra's doing it right. And then you've just decided, but his acting was so good. He had to have really been there. He could have just be a really good actor. Oh, guys, you guys, we're getting flooded with checks of people on my side. How are there this many people? There is, because it was, I don't, they don't, they don't, explain it in the movie.

And it makes sense now I know. We have got 15 texts just now that have come through saying, I'm with Dan, I'm with Dan, I thought the same as you. I was today's, I've always thought the same. Just found this out now. The old lady was really on it. Really on the Titanic! Shit!

Because she was old. It was from a documentary style. Why would you question it? Because it's a film. It's not a documentary. You can't have half-drama. It's one or the other. Unless James Cameron sold it as,

For the first time ever, we're going to make a half-documentary, half-fiction film about the time. What is, I love our listeners, but I, what is wrong with you guys? Moran, Maraz, is that how I say it? You're with me on this? Yep, 100%. Yes, see? You thought it was, but. She could still smell the fresh paint.

Oh, my God, she just read a line that she was given. Oh, my God. The cutlery had never been. new. Okay. Adam, about 30 texts we've gotten. The first person's come through and said, I'm not with Dan.

It's, it isn't a documentary. It was the ship of dreams. And it was. Clint, Megan Dan. Win $10,000 right now with the H-10K. EZ money. All right, let's get into it. We'll give you a letter.

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Yeah, that's rough. Yeah, big neck. I prefer big neck than little neck, to be honest. Me too. It's more of a presence. What are you going to do when you win the 10 grand? I would love to buy a car. I'm currently carless. It broke down three months ago, so I've been biking around the town.

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Hey, Bella. Hello. Hi. Now, earlier in the week, we're talking about my best friend's wedding, a classic rom-com, the fact that's getting a bit of a remake. And we did that, and you're going to think it's crazy now, boys, when I explain the premise of this, because when you're in your 20s, this sounds normal.

When you're in your late 30s, you all, that's crazy. Two best friends, the woman played by Julie Roberts, the dude was a guy called Dermit Mulroney. make it packed when they're younger that if they're not married by the age of 28 They'll marry each other They get to 28 and Julie Roberts is devastated to learn their best friend

He's in fact getting married It'll be a bit of a throwback for something I've always had great friends who are men There's you and of course my best friend Michael sophomore year at Brown You won't believe what we did He says swear

When we're 28 If we've never married we marry each other and we've been best friends ever since You're about to be 28 in three weeks, right? Mm-hmm. So I'll see. No, Michael's not proposing marriage.

Well, you just can't do that. What a great premise for a movie. Right, I just got a gay best friend played by Rubid Everett, I believe, and Cameron Diaz plays Kimmy, I think, It is such a great film. A ridiculous premise, though, because who in real life would have a pact

to, like, marry someone? Good morning bells Hey guys I thought it was more common I thought it was like a thing Yeah I had it I had a friend Yeah in high school

Amanda We had a little pact I think it was 30 though By the age of 30 Yeah But you're currently still in this pact I'm still in this pact We didn't pick it like age

It was kind of just like Oh yeah like we've both like not married It wasn't an age Me probably thinking like 35 I would go 28 this Yeah It's too young But then also we found out

this guy who you've got the pact with doesn't realize you've got a backup pact what? No I don't. Well who's got the backup? Is it him who's got another one? No I think I was like that's cheating if you make a backup pack. You can't have two packs clean. Then what happens if he's your backup and then he ends up getting like married and leaving you high and dry

like a year before the packs means to sleep? That's the risk of the pack. That's why you always need a backup pack. She'll be the Julia Roberts in this scenario attending the wedding trying to break them up so she can get married to him. Here's my question to you Bella. Yeah. Is he attractive, this guy? Yeah, yeah.

And he's a good friend. Yeah. Why don't you date him? What's stopping you dating him now? Well, I don't want to be, I want to be single in my 20s. I've always heard that it's like the best. And I'm happy being single by myself. He's just moved to the Gold Coast as well, so like that wouldn't work.

I think we just both at our stage in our life, we're like, we don't want to be with the one right now. Right. Because I don't. But you think he might be the one. Maybe. I don't think he's the one. Well, yeah, it's like we get along so well as friends. Like, he is marriage material.

I know, but I just like don't feel like that towards them right now. It's interesting, isn't it? Do you think it's like an insult to be in a pact? Because they go, if I can't find anything better, I'll settle for you at 40. No. Or do you think it's like you are the type of person I could see myself spending the rest of my life with? But I want to go and do my thing. And if it doesn't happen, I've locked you in.

Let's not be with other. Let's like not commit to anyone else and live our best lives and go and sew our broil loads. And then when we get to 30, let's get together, which is not what's happening here. It's if we haven't found other people. Can I share a controversial opinion on pact? You always do. I think when a pact like this has made,

one person in the pact always wants to... That relationship to be a real thing now. It's their way of having some semblance of planting the seed, maintaining control. Yeah. Have you taken them for a test run? No. No, okay.

Not even a kissy-kissy. Nah, oh, no, no, no, no. No, we haven't. I feel like sometimes it could go either way. Like, you could get to 30, whatever it is, and go, okay, let's try this on for size, and you could kiss him, and it's like fireworks, sparks, fly, how do I live without him, or...

There's been, like, moments. Like, we've had sleepovers and stuff, but never... Ooh. Yeah, but, like, friendly ones, you know? But then you don't want a friend zone too much, because then when it comes to pack time, 35 or whatever. You don't want to be like, ooh. So I feel like you want to keep the spark alive within your pact.

Yeah. But that's just whether it's there or not. Like, if it's not there when I'm 35. Here's the most interesting thing. And I know where I can see what we've discussed, what we're going to throw out. And I genuinely don't think we'll get a call for it. I'd like to think we would. You hear about the pact, but you never hear from anyone that's actually gone through with that and go, yeah, we got to 30 or 40.

And then we're like, let's actually do it. Or you've got a pact. You're now 31 and you had it at 30. and you don't know what they're up to, and you would actually be down to finding them, maybe without help, to making the pact a real thing? Or has there, like,

is there anyone out there that has engaged the pact? Yeah, I just don't. Has anyone ever followed through with the pact? I just, I think it's this hypothetical, fun thing to have, but I don't think anyone has really gone, well, we're 40, so will you? Or maybe you had the pact and then they got married to someone else and you found yourself devastated over it? Oh, I couldn't.

Wouldn't that be dead. devastated that you held out. Okay, packed chat next. Yeah, are you like weeks away from the Pact becoming the thing? Like you're going to be 40 next month and you're like, oh my God, I'm going to have to ring them up. Yeah. Pack chat all on the floor. Pack chat.

Give me some more. Pack chat. Let's get it made up. All right. Go neat. You've already got the lyrics made for the back thing. Webkew Bella in studio this morning. Do you want to do it live, Dan?

We're talking about Pact. Do you want to do it live? Oh, I thought we were getting it made up. Has it not been made in time? Well, I'm being producing this. Sorry, I ran as fast as I could and I sang out of tune. Okay. Are you ready?

Okay, here we go. Okay, here we go. Here you go. We're coming in. Pack chat, all on the floor. Pack chat like I need some more. Pack chat. Do you get something?

Pack chat. Oh. That was size. It was team karaoke. I liked that. Yeah. Okay, we're talking packs. Because I, We Viewer Bella has one with a guy she knows that if they're still single, later in life,

you haven't got an actual age locked in yet. Not an actual age, but, like, what would be, 35-ish would be, yeah. And then you're going to get married. We've heard her all before, but we've never actually heard from anyone who's genuinely gone through with the pact later in life and going, hey, well, we had the pact, and then you bump into them and you're like, let's get, let's do it. How awkward if you weren't really, like, serious about the pact? And then you're, like, living your best life at 29 and a half, and then... Rocks up at your door, like with the con, like, well,

yeah, let's do it. You'll be a promise. Yeah. Imagine, and then I got, oh, that might be a good premise for a film. For a movie. Like a thriller, almost, but be you promised. Also, then he gets, like, real, like. Start stalking her.

Oh, that is a good movie. Yeah. You can write a book about it, Ash, you're an author. Maybe you'll call it The Pact. The Pact? Wow. I like the Rom-Gom version, and I also like the horror version. Yeah.

There's too there. Okay, let's go to Jimma. Jimmy, good morning. You got a question about the Pact. Yeah, what happens if you're in a pack from when you're younger and you get like really close to that age but you're with somebody else in a relationship but not engaged and not married?

And it's not going anywhere. So, yeah, true. Well, you don't know, is it? Is it? I'm thinking like if that was Jackson and I was, if he was in a relationship and I wasn't, but we hit the age, I wouldn't want to like ruin his thing. Like there's potential there.

The fact that he's in a relationship makes the packed void. Yeah. Surely you could be like, yo Jackson, is this serious? Is this real? Is this like a real thing? If it's serious, I'll back off. I'm offering marriage over here. That's right. I've got a lot to offer.

Oh, you start some rumours about that, but... Now it's not with, you know? No, it's a good question, Gemma. I think you need to iron out all their like T's and C's, you know, because it's an important decision. Yeah. Someone's text through saying they don't have a pact for a relationship, so to speak, but they have a divorce pact.

if my bestie and her husband break up she's shacking up with me we've even got it in writing so oh that's crazy do you reckon they mean sexually or do they just mean like couple of gals live in our best lives because I'd marry a couple of my best friends

but separate friends no I was thinking it was a guy and girl best friend oh I think it was a guy that's texted through well they want to bang yeah it would be like me saying to like if me and Dan's wife were like best mates and then I was like hey let's get a pact if you and Dan ever divorce

you and me give it a go. No, keep your hands off my wife. Even if we divorce, I'm going to Hannah, just don't go near Clint because he's gagging for it apparently. What did you die? I've told Hannah if I die

she's not allowed anybody else. Oh, I will warn him, bitch. I'll be standing in the corner of that room. I'll go, I'm like, Dan, can you sue? She putting me off. Clint, Megan, Dan. Hit it, Fonke.

Hit it. You hit the spark. Oh, damn it. What just happened? You're trying to hit the spot with the intro. It's very hard to do. And we've figured that out recently because it's been my thing for a long time.

Hit the spot. We play a song. Clint brings the music down. I keep singing. And then the goal is to hit the exact spot when Clint brings the music back up. This segment is so big that even Guy Sebastian got in touch with us when he was coming to Otero and said,

hey, can we? I want Dan to try Battlescars. We're like, guy, no. And he was like, please, he doesn't go down on his knees and stuff. And I'm like, okay. Now here's the thing. Dan's been exceptional in the past. Yeah.

And as of late, he's had about two or three misses in a row. And it's only a great bit when you nail it. And you're allowed to miss it because you're not perfect. But if you start missing it more than you're hitting it, it really is just a guy not singing in time. Willie hit the spot. And no girl wants to be walking into anything thinking, is he going to hit the spot?

Yeah. You don't want to be here. You don't want to have a shaky person on the job, do you? No, no, no. And we believe in you, babe. We've just decided you've got one shot to hit the spot tomorrow, or it's in the bin. Or it's done.

And Dan has gone and chosen a very difficult song, which I commend you for, because I thought you were just going to throw up a bit of a softball. Yeah, someone's suggestion to see a chandelier, Boring. Bologna. Boring. Two great options, but, you know, doable.

Yeah, I've gone a little bit further than that. And I've chosen a song that we would never play. on the edge, but I would say one of the most iconic songs of all time by the beautiful Whitney Houston. And there's a viral thing here just to get the drum right, let alone then come in with the right vocal. So this is where I'm planning

to come in here, okay? And I would probably start bringing the music down and Dan would sing this part of what a gorgeous song. Originally written by Dolly Parton. It was. I think you need a bit more vocal lead-in.

The longer he goes, the more impressive it is. We could drop it here, and it would still be hard. Now, here's the hardest pick. And then I'm coming back in. Two, three, four. So I was off there. Because it's all about getting the drum beat, right. You've got to get the drum in order to get the vocal.

And that is, I feel like, if I can nail that tomorrow, It's the best hit the spot of all time. Undoubtedly. The problem is the margin of error is very, very high. It's the hardest one I've ever done. Are you sure you want to do this song? Well, I feel like I may as well, if I'm going to fail, I may as well go out trying to do the hardest one I've ever done

instead of going and doing a chandelier or something like that. To be the best, you've got to beat the best. Exactly. That's right. And I'd be happy to go out failing with Whitney Houston. Yes. Like failing to hit Whitney's spot. than going out on, you know, failing to hit C as one.

Because no one is going to watch that back and go, well, I could have hit Whitney's spot. Yeah, you're right. No one could have hit it. Yeah. But if you hit it. Nortiously, very hard to hit it. If you hit it, exactly, they say, I can't believe you hit it.

Yeah. No one else on earth could hit it. Yes. The country are behind you, Dan. And they have been flooding him with their messages of support. You can as well, if you like. I went under the edge. Dan, Webby, this is the only thing you're good at.

You better not fuck this up. Dan, don't fuck it up again, okay? this is your last morning you're going to ruin the station if you can bomb this, okay? Get your head in the game. Dan, please don't f*** us up this time. Like, we need this.

We all need this. It's the best segment that you've got going on. Let's just get it done this time, right? Even Meg has taken some time out of her maternity leave to weigh in. Daddy boy, I don't know why you have any doubts that you can do this. This is your thing.

You can hit the spot. In fact, like you have like millions, and millions of fans online that love watching you hit it. The spot, I mean, they hit the spot online. And I don't doubt that this will be another successful attempt. I can't wait to watch. You nail it. But we need to work on the wording of this.

Yeah, it's quite sexual. Do you need any more? Or ideally, you just see the whole country is behind me. So far, you've just played some workmates. Okay, well, why don't I play the leader of? the country. Hey Dan, it's the PM here. Listen, look, we all have

ups and downs, mate. But what's important is that we stick at it and we never, ever give up. I believe in you, your country believes in you, we're behind you, mate, do us proud. The leader of Ulteroa believes in Dan.

Okay. I mean, that can't do you up your mate, Chris. Surely he is too busy to be weighing in on hit the spot, but no. And he has said if I hit the spot, he will lower taxes by 10%. Chris Veluxin thinks Dan can do it

The country thinks Dan can do it Tomorrow morning After 8 o'clock Will Dan Hit the spot The spot You know I've been practicing Behind the scenes the song

I've practiced it probably 150 times I've recorded some stuff Which will play later Is that way you weren't at work For the last two days Yeah I wasn't sick at all Clint Meg and Dan Dan

Dan gave us a bit of homework Last Friday Wasn't it Dan Yeah it was It seems like a while ago. It was before I was sick. And it's the thing I call the relationship health check. And I think a lot of people do this in one way or another in their relationship.

I don't think a lot of people do it at all. Really? No way. I don't think so. No. So it's the thing my wife Hannah and I do, and we've done it since we've been married. And it's basically just a check-in. Each week, you do it every week, where you somehow touch each other in a way, not in a sexual way.

Like you have some sort of contact. Yeah. Could be holding hands, touching foreheads. Yes. Yes, and you ask three questions, first of which is what's going right in our relationship. Yeah, what are we doing well? The second thing is, what could I be doing better in our relationship, and what can we work on as a couple?

Right. Now, we were going to go back and forth and see whose relationship is healthy out of mine and ashes, but I can't find any of the homework from you, Ash. Night one, old mate, perfect family over here. Clint Randall sends a message at like 7.30 at night. Like, I'm in, Jamie, what's some strike that she made. Opened up a bottle of wine, had some dessert. They made it like a whole date night situation.

And I'm thinking, oh gosh. By the time he sends this message, my husband's still trying to get our toddler to bed. Actually, it's not a toddler anymore. It's four. Our child's to bed. And I'm thinking, okay, well, I'm still good. You know, so like I wait, wait, wait. and he gets some work done.

I'm lying in bed, waiting for him to come to. He walks in and says, hi, Tal. Are you ready to do the relationship check-in? And he grunts at me. Oh, dear. Like, it's absolutely not happening tonight. Okay, it's a big night, tough day at work, he's stressed. Look, three days later, I still can't actually make my husband sit down and do the relationship.

Oh, dear. Now, what that tells me is he's unwilling to face the issues of your relationship. That's what I'm worried now. He's saying I'm so busy. Like, our child is not sleeping, so we don't get any time together. until kind of 8, 30, 9 o'clock and I've got to be in bed then. So we are in a situation,

but maybe he's using that as an excuse. Maybe he's got a bombshell that he needs to drop on me. He's avoiding it. Yeah, maybe he's cheating on you. Okay, well, I guess we'll just play mine, my homework then. Yes, I did ask my wife over dinner about our relationship. I've already annoyed at you.

I'm already just annoyed at you both being disgusting. Okay, so what? was the first question, Dan? I think the first question I usually ask my wife is what's going well in our relationship. You'll be amazing. That works for me. How am I being amazing? No, just really kind

and listening to all my, helping me land. When I've been working, you've just been sorted to grocery shopping for me yesterday. Being respectful of super supportive. I think there's a lot working in our relationship. No, because you're being amazing. We went on for so long I guess producer Nevia just had to chop it all

into a bit of a montage. I was like, what's in your house? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought there was some sort of knife that was like being thrown. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all very positive, isn't it? There's a lot, actually.

There's a lot going well. Did you get your wife drunk to do that? Be honest. How many glasses of wine is? No, I mean, we were just going to have a glass, and we might have had two. Okay, so there's no drinking's going really well. Okay, so everything's going well. Cool.

Okay, so the next question you should ask, and this is maybe sometimes more of a confronting one, is as a couple, what do we need to work on? Okay. Sometimes I feel like we need to work on a little bit of our communication. But a lot of that's kind of more like around logistics and what we're expecting of the evening with kids and that sort of stuff. And maybe. Sometimes.

Yeah, sometimes. But that's so not fair. Oh, I love you and you're like, oh, my kids are the problem. Also, hold on, wait. Have you added music behind it or is there like some sort of grand pianist in your lounge? Guys, Sebastian. No, that is actually in Clint's house. I could not believe what I was hearing.

It's just nice to put on some piano music and have dinner and like... Okay, can I say something? There's no way Jamie's going to be honest about the issues in your marriage if your kids are present. So you have... True. Not only have you plied her with alcohol, but you've made your kids sit there so she can't actually be like, well, actually there's issues because then they'll be like, is mommy and daddy getting a divorce?

It's the girl that didn't bring her homework and I'm going to speak to her. say you're just jealous that marriage is perfect Ash. We can't help that your one's on the rocks. What was the last question? The last question, this is another one that I think, what can you personally be working on? Oh, okay, so this is where

we should get a little more tea. I feel like all the things that you can personally be working on you've actually already started working on in the last lot. Tell me. So, yeah, I don't know. No, that's fine, actually. We don't need. We don't need

them all to be long answers, babe. Oh, for goodness sake. Clint, I told you not to fake up the answers, all right? Don't give Jamie a script. You also give me a bonus question about intimacy. Considering our 8 and 10-year-old at both at the dinner table with us, we might skip that one.

But we could probably work on that later. I love that ears. Block your ears, Kim, block your ears, though. I think that... La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. It's work on that tonight. I think... Yeah.

God, your kids sound annoying Yeah God, I'm surprised your marriage is still together after those two being around it Jesus Christ No, no la la la la la

Jamie, I love you But I've got to leave These kids are annoyingly Clit me and Dan Gossiper and entertainment Clit Meg and Dan With Ash London Scandal

And it's all thanks to Konticki A mix and match You can make your own experience I think we can all agree That I've got some skills in life And I'm doing scandal Twice a day is not one of them Oh I think you're fine at it

I don't think I'm that good. I always forget about it. Then I get details wrong. Like three minutes ago, I said that unfortunately Brad Pitt had lost his grandmother. It's actually his mother, which is way sad. Hey, we wouldn't send you to the Scandal Olympics, but I think you're a good national level player.

I could like, be the halftime entertainment at the Scandal Olympics. You could do. If you're at the Scandal Olympics, I reckon you get there and you're like, oh no. And they'll be like, what? And you're like, I forgot my swimsuit. And we're like, well, you're doing freestyle, Ash. Come on.

I forgot this was on. I can't swim. I got no skills. So her name was she was 84 years old. Her name was Jane Etta Pitt. And she is gorgeous. Like you can, you look at her and you go,

she's got good-looking kids. So it's no wonder that Brad Pitt is, you know, her offspring. So her niece, Sydney Pitt said, my sweet Grammy, I love how Americans call their grandma's Grammy. Jane Etta, we were not ready for you to go yet,

but knowing you're finally free to sing dance and paint again, makes a tat easier. If you knew she had the biggest heart, she kept deep with everyone and everything, no questions asked. I can't get over how gorgeous this woman was. What does she pass away from?

I didn't say. Beauty. But it's too beautiful for this world. But isn't it like, it's so funny how we think that these actors are like not real people? Like you imagine that they just exist in this like happy world of everything being perthed in no problems. But like anyone's mum passing away is the most tragic thing in the whole world. So he's devastated today. I quite often think about Brad Pitt and his mind.

Like, his whole adult life, he has been the sexiest man. the world regarded by a lot of people you know you might not be but like imagine that ego if that was me

if that was me I would be the most cocky individual because you everybody in the world thinks you're the most attractive man like you are the standard

yes instead of saying hot they just they literally just say your name the pressure though every time you meet someone you're wondering if they're going huh

not that hot in real life that is true you know what the pressure is too much I feel that now though and I'm not the hottest guy in real but like I go go out and go to the mall or something

and then if someone, I see someone and maybe they're a listener, I'm always like, oh God, maybe I've got a bogey in my nose. I always think that. Is this how you feel with hit the spot? Because for so long you've been the man. Your expectation has been perfection. Yeah. I feel like... It's gotten to you. Yeah.

Yeah. But no one asks me to do that in public. No, it comes up to me in the mall and goes, hit my spot. Thank God. Yeah, yeah. And if they do, don't try to hit the spot. I would never. That's going to get you cancelled. Do you have a Brad Pitt story? Because we found out, today when I was just throwing out random celebrities that you have a story for almost

every celebrity. I think you're my friend that has met more celebrities than anyone else. Definitely. But it would be like 95% musicians, my stories. Yeah. And 5% actor because I've always done music stuff. Sure.

I think most of my stories, most artists you could throw at me, I would have some sort of a story. If it didn't happen to me, it would have happened to like one of my very close friends. It's got like an in-person story with that artist. Okay, well, Ash, we're going to play Ash, Ash Celebrity Rulet Storytime next.

We've got a bunch of celebrities on the wheel because we realize you can almost throw any celebrity almost any singer and you go, I've got a story for that when I found out about your LMFAO yarn yesterday and then I was like oh and I mentioned Usher randomly I got a great story for Usher

which we had to share on the Only Fans and I've got a couple of messages about that from people being like, yo yo! Usher, Usher. I haven't heard the Usher story I want to hear it. So he's on there, LMFAO's on there, Noel Horan is on the spinning wheel. Taylor Swift. Justin Bieber and Jason Derulo. I'm going to spin the wheel now.

Okay. And we're going to find out who you're going to talk about next. Here we go. This is a weird way of kind of name dropping, isn't it? Spinning. Spinning. Spinning. Spitting. Jason Durulo. This is a fun one from very early in my career.

It's got to do with, oh, there he is. It's got to do with Jason DeRulo and the receptionist at my work at the time. time. It's time for Ash's Celebrity Rulet Storytime. We've already spun the wheel and we spun up Jason

Dool-O. Now all made Jason's got a bit of reputation for being a ladies man but he loves that. Like he plays it up. He really loves that. That's his whole brand really. Absolutely.

So this is really early on in my career when I was a music journalist. I wasn't on TV or radio or anything. I just did interviews. And Jason was coming in for an interview and we had this receptionist. I don't even remember her name. She was a babe.

She was like mid-20s, gorgeous. Pretty much had the job at the station so she could meet celebrities and hopefully hook up with them. Good on her. So she's like Jason's coming in. She's looking good that day. He comes in. Obviously they have a bit of a how you're doing, how you're doing. Numbers swapped. We do the interview. He's fine,

lovely and he leaves. And then I'm like, you're going to see Jason? She's like, I'm hoping. And the next day she comes into work. She's looking a bit dusty. I was like, I need to know everything. She's like, well, we went to a club and Jason's there with his people. But there was all these other girls there. And she's like, I scoped out the hottest one that was like laying it on hard to this guy and I was like you are not taking my opportunity to hook up with with Jason DeRullo so I was like what did you do

she's like when she went to the bar I got her wallet out of her bag and I took it and I hit it so that when it was time for her to leave with him she would go to her bag and like oh I don't have my wallet so then she couldn't waitin around her to find her so while she was looking for her wallet which this girl whose name I've forgotten now had I think she said she put it under the couch cushion of the, like, where they were. She was like, so, like, sinister, but it's low-level revenge almost where. Very low, let no one's getting hurt, really.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And then so she went home and then obviously the girl, hopefully found her wallet later. Oh. And I was like, mad respect. And what he was like, hey, come on, come on. She didn't, and then eventually the other girl was like, I'm ready to go, your friend. I'm ready, baby.

And then, so, yeah. And I didn't ask for details of what happened after that, but. I mean, if I've got the opportunity to sleep with Jay, and Darulow. I'm leaving my wallet. Who cares about your wallet? Yeah. I'll stuff it, Jayce. Let's get home. He's like, I can get another Z-card

and I'll get a replacement driver's license and send the bail. Some Velcro wallet. Yeah. Obviously my wallet. It's Rickville. All right, let's give away some cash next. We got so close this time yesterday. We had like a 9 out of 10, Dan. We had a 9 and an 8 out of 10 with easy money.

Oh, maybe it's me. Maybe you make people nervous? Yeah, because now I've been back. We had a shocker earlier this morning. You should leave. I'm going to leave. Maybe I should go out of the room. We will give you the courtesy, actually.

You can decide if you want Dan in the room or out of the room during your game next. It's a good idea. That's a good one. Your chance at $10,000. Clint, Megan Dan. Win $10,000 right now with the H-10K-E-C money. Four pastay. Good morning.

Your chance to win $10,000 if you can give us 10 correct answers. Starting with the letter, Ash gives you. You can pass. We'll come back as quick as we can if we've got time. But no repeated answers. Those are the rules, the rest is up to you. Good morning, Bree. Morning.

Now it says here, your back door's being destroyed and you need a new backdoor. I know that it's so boring, but when it rains, it leaks. No, it's not boring. No one wants a leaky backdoor. And they're expensive. How much are they? Oh, like five grand. Whoa, you've got an expensive backdoor.

You just need a backdoor reconstruction. Yeah, yeah. So 5 gram for the door and then 5 grams are something more exciting. Okay, yeah. Well, let's get you this back door. It all sounds pretty exciting, Bree. Let's go. 10 answers in 30 seconds and we put $10,000 into your account.

Are you ready? Found food. Okay. I think so. Bree, today your letter is N. N for never mind. New back door. There we go.

Yeah. Good boy. All right. Can I please have beginning with N for $10,000 a meal? Uh, noodles. A girl's name. Natalie. A boy's name.

Nathan. A streaming platform. Netflix. A movie. Uh, uh... A pass. A sports brand. Nike.

Something in a hospital. Nurses. A song title. Uh... Never. Something you can break. Pass. Oh, you were ripping through it!

Oh, Bree! Oh, my God, and Night at the Museum, I love. That is literally what I had written here was Night at the Museum. Napoleon Dynamite, Nacho Libre. A song title, no diggedy, new rules, not like us. Oh, my goodness me. That's what gets me. That was a very good showing, but unfortunately,

people are going to have to come through your front door a little bit longer because the back door's going to have to wait. I think you were in the room, Dan. I know, maybe that was it, because we're, talking about that, that I'm jinxing it. You don't want Dan in the room when you're dealing with your back doors. No. All right.

Thanks for playing, Brie. Thanks. Really want someone to win. Yeah, back again at 3 o'clock this afternoon, all thanks to BNZ. Clint, Meg and Dan. Oh, my gosh. Okay, we need to have a speaker that, like, like a live stream of what goes on with the songs play.

Dan's, Dan's, Dan goes, I need to stop dabbing. I need to stop dabbing. Dan's just dabbing during daisies. Oh, yeah. years ago. I've just got into it. I thought you'd read, you know, discovered it. It started when it was popular and dance is the only one still dabbing. I'm just getting into it now. I've sort of just mastered it really and now it's too late.

Sorry, you're listening to Clint Megan Dan with Ashland. But if you've just tuned in, on the edge, my daughter is 10, and she has discovered friends and is obsessed with it. Oh, the TV show. The TV show. Yeah, she will, like, pause her, and she'll turn around, and she goes to me, oh my God, Dad. this is hilarious and I'm like I know babe there's a reason why

it's the most popular TV show in the world and because she's I think she was watching like sporadic kind of episodes and stuff and she's like reciting word for word everyone's lines and she's only watched at one time I said we should go back to the start babe because you're

you're just watching random episodes and she's understanding the characters but you want the storyline of you know from the beginning is so good and what's great about friends is it is really family friendly. Like you never have to worry that your kids are going to watch something that's going to make them super uncomfortable

because if anything is sexualized, it's done in a way that like... Lay it. The adults understand it. It goes straight over the kids' heads. So good, eh? And so I've actually gone back to the start already once before. So I've watched Friends from front to back twice.

How many seasons are they? There's 10, 10 years, 10 seasons. Wow. And there's a lot of episodes, like I think 24 episodes in the first season. So it's not like, yeah, it's not like they did 100 episodes 10 episodes, 10 seasons. They did a lot. And so I've gone back and it's unbelievable how relatable

every episode is. Like there will be something where you go, oh my God, that's happened to me. Oh my God, I know someone that that happened to. And so I thought we could maybe once a week do the Friends Phona. Love it. I'll find a scene from an episode that we're watching and then pull it out and see,

has this actually happened to anyone in real life? is it as relatable as we think friends is and I've gone with season one episode two where Rachel was breaking up with her fiancé and she's going to return the ring to her fiancée who's a dentist and she discovers

that he's doing rather well since she broke up with him why are you so tan I went to Aruba oh no you went on our honeymoon alone no I went with Now, this may hurt.

I went with Mindy. Mindy? My maid of honor, Mindy? Yeah, we're kind of a thing now. Oh, well, I'm... You've got plugs. Careful, careful. We haven't quite taken yet. And you got lenses?

But you hate sticking your finger in your eye. Not for her. Not for her. That is devastating to hear. So, quite a specific example. He, no, so I'm not looking for people who, like, went on their honeymoon

with somebody else after they got dumped. And they got a hair transplant. Yes. And now we're lenses. If there's anyone listening, 0,800 the edge. I think it's more, for me, it's how quickly

her fiancé moved on. I know she broke up with him, but it was like, she left him at the altar and then he went on his honeymoon which would have been arguably the same week with her best friend and now they're dating well maybe you moved on

can we do like you got dumped and moved on really quickly or is it only really funny if it's your ex yeah I think it's like how quickly did your ex move on because then you still have the story because you know it still grinds your gears because often it's like you don't want to be with the person anymore obviously but you want them to be

unhappy forever you want to see your ex happy No way. Also, is there a universal rule I was thinking about this of how long you should wait? Like for every six months of the relationship, you have to wait one month. Nah, just, once it's over, it's over.

An hour is fine in my eyes. An hour? Who cares? The relationship's done. What if it was like a marriage? You're kids, maybe, but like, who cares? Surely for every year of marriage, it's one month standout. Life is short. You can't be wasting precious life

because there's a made-up thing that you owe someone that you're not in a relationship with that more. Surely you're still dealing with trauma and stuff. You're not ready. Yeah, that's enough you're ready. Who's ever ready to meet the one, really? So there's no, in your eyes, there is no stand-down period. No.

Yeah, but that's because your husband was dating some other chick when you guys met. Exactly right. Yeah, so there you go. And they're still together. I live by it. Yeah. I'd love to know. It feels like there should be a certain amount of time that they have to wait.

But maybe you've got a situation where you're like, hell no, my ex moved on unbelievably fast. We've already got a text that's taken my breath away. Yeah. What if there was an overlap? No, that's called cheating. It's a different phona. Yeah, it's different. Yeah.

How quickly did your ex move on? We're doing the friends phona. My daughter and I are starting from the beginning of friends. And in the first season, episode two, Rachel finds out that her fiancé, who she broke up with, has moved on very quickly because he took Rachel's best friend on their honeymoon. Yeah, which is his prerogative because they had broken up. Sure.

And I just wondered, like, what is the amount of time that we're supposed to wait after a break up and has anyone got a story about the ex moving on unbelievably quickly? I think it happens more than you more often than you'd think they're just straight on to the next one because as you say Ash it sounds brutal but life's too short. Exactly you've only got a finite amount

of years on life of life and if the relationship's over I don't think you owe that person one more second of your time if you're not together you're not together if you break up with them though and they're pretty scorned by it wouldn't respectfully for how important they were in your life? But you're not responsible for their feelings.

Like, we're all adults. You can't help, you know, when you fall for somebody. I don't sound harsh, but it's life. Okay. Well, it's a view shed by a lot of people. Kristen, good morning. Morning. Are you on Ashes side here, or do you think there needs to be a stand-down period?

So in the circumstance that I'm about to talk about, I believe that it was far too quickly. Okay. Do tell, darling. How quick? What happened? So it was actually my mum and my stepdad that had been together for 10 years, had three children together, and they ended up splitting up due to an incident that happened.

And within the month, or probably within about two and a half-ish weeks, he was remarried and telling the children to call the new woman, mum, and she is so much prettier and so much nicer, and she's your new mum. Splitting and remarried in the month is mental. But to be, he must have been doing some groundwork with the new lady before you don't go from meeting someone to marriage in two and a half weeks. Oh, apparently he did. Wow, that is wild. I also think, can I say, when kids are involved, that does change things, especially, definitely very kids involved.

And Amy, you, your ex-husband had someone lined up? Yes. Tell us what happened. I thought we were trying to kind of make. things work and then he ended it and then literally it was four days later

he told me he was wanting to take our daughter out and I kind of did a bit of digging you know asking questions and he wanted to introduce the daughter to the new girlfriend after four days. No way wait so your daughter and he wanted to meet his mistress

that's a lot for a little kid to try to understand and interpret as well. That's disgusting. How old was your daughter? 11. No. Wow. That's rough. Dog behavior there. That is shocking. Sorry, you experienced that, Amy.

Yeah. That really sucks. Man, some guys have a lot to answer for. There's stories we hear on the show. Yeah. Okay. Maliki, we are talking about how quickly your ex moved on. What's the time frame for you? Oh, it was two hours. Brilliant. Two hours?

What do you mean? Tell us everything, Malachi. What happened? Well, we were together for about two months. No, in all the two months. I'm trying to remember. Five months, I think. I don't know. It was a while ago. And just out of the blue, just said, nah, we're done. Were you at a bar and you guys were out? Because how then do you know that they moved on two hours later? Because I was then stalking her Instagram and she already posted photos with another man,

kissing another man. I mean, I would argue five months, I'd sort of, you're in the grounds of, wow, I just move straight away. Of the same day, Daniel. No, I know. They're broken up. They're not married. There's no kids. Yeah, I mean, it still sucks, right, Malachi.

I mean, you see them, there's no way to skin it to make it good for you. But at the same time, five months, I feel like you'd be a game. Oh, my God, there needs to be some sort of a universal rule so these people who have called that have these horrible stories are protected. Yeah. I just can't believe how many women are texting through saying that the father of my kids moved on so quickly. Crazy. Men don't like to be alone.

Not an excuse. I think it undermines how important or special that relationship was in that you can move on so quickly from it. It's like, did it mean nothing? Yeah. And I think that's a lot of what people hold on to is like if you're still heartbroken and the person's just moved on quickly and you're thinking, well, what's wrong with me? Why am I still here mourning this relationship and you've just, but I do think maybe it's

Selfish. It's different for men and women. Yeah. The Clint Meg and Dan podcast. I'm going to roll the intro. It's an interactive intro. Okay? You've got to jump in and see if you can hit the spot.

Hit it. Hit it. Hit it. Hit it. You hit the spot. Whoa. See, it gives you a little clue because there's a bit of a rise. Yeah.

So you know when it's going to come in. Hit the. Oh, yeah, very hard. I can't do it. I would be so bad at this. I think you do an amazing job down. I believe that you're going to redeem the spot. Thanks, Ash.

Because it has been a shaky last few weeks. weeks have hit the spot. I haven't been able to nail it for a couple of weeks. You've been in and around, you've been on the precipice, verging on this spot, but not quite smashing it. One of your best. Bleed me try like a goddamn vampire. One of the first, I think that was one of the first where I've got something here. It's like you were one with Olivia Rodrigo. You channeled her spirit. But even Superman, you know, he goes through some times where, you know, his powers aren't working.

Don't talk to him about Cryptonite. Oh, I tell you what. And Cryptonite for me has been. A couple of songs that was done recently. Coldplay and Guy Sebastian. Yeah. The problem was I did Guy Sabet. I failed the Guy Sebastian one

right in front of the man himself guy. Yeah, and he's such a fan of the segment that he had specifically requested behind your back that you give it a go. And then you did, and we thought this is going to be such a moment. He's going to nail it in front of Guy. So tomorrow we are giving Dan the chance

to save hit the spot. And if he doesn't hit the spot, we throw it in the bin, because otherwise it's just listed to a guy fail and not hit the spot. So I'm doing the hardest song I think could ever be done to hit the spot. It's Whitney Houston, I will always love you. It's not a song we'd play on the edge, but it's the holy grail of hit the spot.

And if you do do this, no one could ever take the title away from you. You know, like... Yeah. Imagine your confidence if you nail this. Any song we throw you, be like, yeah, the Whitney Houston. Oh, God. Is this the bit that we're about to hear? This is it.

So it's coming in here. I'm singing. No Whitney underneath me. So not only keeping time with her. vocal. Now I have to keep time with the silence. Yes. And then I'm going to have a drum stick and I'm going to hit a drum now. And come in there. I don't think anyone could do that, my love.

You should give it a crack ash so that we can get a nice gauge of like a normie versus Dan and his superpower. People say about the Olympics. They're like, I want to watch a normal person at the 11th runner doing the 100 metre spread. So we've got some sort of comparison. Yes. It would be so bad. So a lot of people think I don't practice this. I just turn up and I'm just. just that talented. Not the case. I practice the crap out of most of these and I've been known for the last 24

hours. I've known I'm going to be doing this song and I've been, oh God, my family I've driven them to drink to the point where... I hope you haven't driven Georgie. You're one and a half year old to drink. Yes, now he's drinking. He's a drinker. He's no alcoholic. And it's because this is what I've been practicing. This is, I think the first bit of

audio you've got, Clint is me doing the full song trying to kind of get to the spot. But about this, I wish you love oh way off I don't think that was way off

it was pretty yeah but in this game a little if you're going to be a little off he may as well be miles off yeah it was a grand canyon misses to be honest so here's a montage of some more misses I've had oh

and no It's not good. It's not good. And I've probably practiced it maybe 250 times so far, like in the car and at home. Does it get to the point where you've practiced too much and then you get two in your head? Do you need to maybe have a break for like eight hours?

I've hit the spot once. Oh my God. One time! And I think even then it was like shaky. You still got 24 hours, Dan. Yeah. I still got 24 hours. And remember earlier this morning,

you heard the words, the Prime Minister of New Zealand's Say, you got this. Hey, Dan, it's the PM here. Listen, look, we all have our ups and downs, mate. But what's important is that we stick at it and we never, ever give up. I believe in you, your country believes in you.

We're behind you, mate. Do us proud. I really want to know what producer Carl told the Prime Minister for him to be like, you can do it, Dan, because I don't think he would have given him the actual truth. Dan tries to hit the spot and he's trying to sing in time with Whitney Houston. Prime Minister will be like, I ain't got time for that, mate.

So what did our producer make up? Yeah, he has said as well, Christopher Luxon, apparently if I do hit the spot, he's going to fire David Seymour. So it's a win for everybody. If you don't hit the spot, I'll never speak to you again. Yeah. That face, that face of his. This time after 8 o'clock tomorrow morning, will Dan hit the spots? Yeah.

I mean, I have to. We don't want the segment to die. No. You have one chance to save it. Clint, Megan Dan. Lesh, go. We brought this up on the show. yesterday, and it is a bit of a contentious issue, the idea that in the media these days

it feels like, and I kind of noticed the Logies, which was the Australian TV film awards, whatever, where all the women just looked smaller than they had the year before. And the fact that it feels like we had this kind of couple of golden years, and perhaps it was even spurned on by Kim Kardashian, where we were embracing our curves. And we had artists like Lizzo who were in bigger, beautiful bodies coming out and saying, you know, like fat is beautiful, big is beautiful, whatever you look like is fine. The most important thing is that you're strong, whatever. And that was a great time for a woman.

It felt like, even I felt like more comfortable in my skin because the conversation was changing. But it does feel like in recent times. And I think it is because of things like Ozmpic and all these kind of weight loss interventions where conversations are changing in the girls' chats. and I think the way we see our body are changing. And we threw it out and I was not wrong because we got so many responses. Yeah.

Yeah, and the shocking thing for me was the amount of people that are now considering an Ozympic or something similar because I guess for a long time there's all these fads and things you could try but it was always combined with, you know, the hard basket diet and working out and all the rest of it.

Whereas this now seems like, you know, everyone's wanted the silver bullet. Yeah. Just that one thing that you just take it and you lose weight and that feels like this is what this pill is

and people... That does feel that way. Correct me, like, excuse my ignorance but I think I know it's a weight loss drug but what is it like does it just stop you

from wanting to eat or does it make you... It's a kind of thing where you look at food and like for me it's a lot of people have food noise in their head

they're thinking about food a lot when's my next meal going to be what's it going to be bored so you're watching a movie can I eat while I watch so there is like a medical

reason, it does it, but I think the simplest version, and I'm not a doctor, is it takes away the food noise, it curbs your appetite, so you're just eating less. Yeah. And we were talking about people who are thinking of going on the pill of Zemik, but then very interesting as well about how many people are open about that, or whether they're

being very secret and very quiet about doing it because it comes with certain connotations that societies are you cheated? You just took the pill. One other caller that stayed with us brought up a very good point, and I think a very relatable stage of life as well for a lot of mums. Beck said this to say yesterday.

My daughter's nearly 14 and for myself I put on about 30KG since I've had kids. To love my life, love my family, love my kids. But I feel like I have lost myself by putting on this way. It affects me daily. I'm not how I was when I was younger. And like I love, I want to live. I have considered O-Dem thing. But I also have to think of my 14-year-old daughter.

You want to be healthy and you want to be a bit skinnier. But you also don't want your daughter to feel like she has to be as well. And with social media and celebrities out there doing this, like she's having a few issues at the moment at 14 where she thinks that she leaves blue weight. And it's awful. Oh, my God. That's the thing that concerns me the most about that kind of thing

is the kids and what they look. looking at as like the paradigm in the world. Absolutely. When they're looking to you as their mother and their father to model healthy habits and healthy ideas about our body image mixed with everything that the world is showing them. And weight loss journeys are like if you're wanting to lose Wade and stuff, all power to you. And I think it's a personal journey if it's making you feel better.

But when it's, when you're trying to conform to a fashionable norm, I think that's when it gets really quite concerning. Yeah, the big issue is very, us to try and work through as adults. Imagine when you've got like a 10-year-old or a 12-year-old daughter that is also now seeing these things and trying to interpret that. And figuring out how they feel about their bodies at a time when their bodies are changing. It makes me want to cry.

I feel like puberty was yesterday. I remember how weird it was as a girl growing into a woman's body and the pressure I felt. This is without social media, without the internet, without all these other stuff. So we have got Karen Campbell, who is a child behaviour specialist, and we're going to talk to her next because we have got some really big questions, and I know you guys will too, about how to raise girls and boys going through puberty, becoming teenagers in this big, bad world. How do we model self-esteem?

How do we talk about their bodies in a way that's healthy and answer some of these tough questions? I'm really, really excited for this chat up next. We have child behaviour specialist. Karen Campbell on the show with us this morning. Good morning, Karen. Thank you for lending us your time. I know you've got a client very, very soon.

So thank you. You're welcome. So we are having this chat about the way that... We started out as a chat around about adults and as women, how the conversation is changing about our bodies. For a while, there was this idea that, you know, big can be beautiful and whatever your body looks like is great. And now with kind of weight loss interventions,

the norm of what we're seeing among celebrities is definitely smaller. So are you saying? seeing, in your line of work, are you seeing, are you talking to parents or teenagers and seeing that there is a change in the way teenagers are thinking about their bodies in the last couple of years? Yeah, I don't know if it's exactly a change. I mean, trends come and go, and I've done that three of generations, but I think that the pressures are similar to in previous times, because it is an identity sort of forming

stage but however it's been exacerbated by what's on social media in terms of and what they're seeing on social media and the trends that are coming

through in that way yeah what would be your advice to someone like a parent Karen who's got a kid someone's text through already that said they've got a daughter that already thinks she's in quotes fat

what would your advice be to someone a parent that's dealing with a kid that's thinking that yeah well it's all a sort of obvious thing in terms of relating your children's self-worth to their characteristics rather than just what they look like and things like that. I think sometimes it starts at a young age with girls in particular.

You know, you look pretty and things like that. There's sort of nothing wrong with that in itself, but also, you know, what else is defining your young person and sort of focusing on those things? and I guess there's always important to be the health aspect, you know, at any size. I think the problem is nowadays is that, you know, children have got a lot more access to social media platforms that I think, you know, particularly damaging to girls

because there's this chronic social comparison. And there's also some evidence around that. So it's limiting that. and really understanding what they're looking at and accessing. Be honest, Karen, as a professional, how old,

let's say you had a teenage daughter, what age would you be allowing her to have access to social media? Yeah, so Jonathan Haidt, who's a professor, leadership in New York, student and a social psychologist, he's got a PhD.

He's written a book called The Actress Generation, and I'd hurriedly recommend in that book to all parents. It's the latest research that's out really on the effects of social media and things like that. And what he says in that book is that parents have to come together and collaborate because it's very difficult if you're going to put restrictions on your daughter and all the other friends accessing it. And so that's one of the significant problems that parents are experiencing.

But he recommends 16 because he says that our brains are not developed properly. and they're still developing it away into their 20s as well. That even seems young. Honestly. And you're right, it has to be parents all agreeing. Like my, I've got an older brother. They've got four kids. The girls are becoming teenagers.

And they had to get the parent group together and say, we need to be one on this. We need to make a decision. It's all in or none in because we want to protect these kids. And I feel like sometimes even if you restrict it more, it makes the kid want to go against the rule even more. So you've got to be really careful. But I love what you said, Karen.

and I'm going to start to implement this in my everyday life now. I've got a daughter who's 10. And you're right, she loves fashion because my wife is into fashion. And she'll come out and go, what do you think of my fit, dad? And so she always wants to know how she looks and she likes being different and stuff. And I'm always, you look amazing, look beautiful. And I really need to probably make sure I'm putting just as many compliments into the non-physical bucket so that she doesn't find her a sense of worth.

only in what she looks like and what she's wearing. Absolutely. Yeah, and maybe questions like, oh, how did she come up with that outfit? You know, what's your thinking process? Not exactly knows that, really, but, you know, what's behind that and to themselves. Yeah, and things are you.

It's looking at it as her creativity and her putting the outfit together as opposed to you look good. That is a really, really great pivot, Karen. If you want to check out Karen's website, we've made it super easy. You can just text kids to 3343. Kids to 3343, and you'll get the website,

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Thanks so much for your time, Karen. I think we could talk to you for a while about this because it's such a nuanced topic, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, thank you, Karen. Thank you so much. We'll let you get back to your client that's actually paying for your time.

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