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This is a podcast from Rover.
This is the OnlyFans podcast with Clint Meg and Dan.
It's not meant to be as explicit as the actual Onlyfans, but most of the time it is.
Welcome to The Only Fans, everybody, with Clint Dan and Ash London.
We have a special Onlyfans edition.
Oh, special guest.
Special episode for you.
Do you know why I love this?
Why?
Because it's already done.
Yeah.
Oh, get us relax.
Actually, this will probably end up being an AMA on the.
the show, but it was just such a great
raw chat that we were like,
oh my God, we just need to upload the whole thing as an only
fan's podcast. You love this person.
Her name's Emma. Yep. And she's a
virgin. Yep. But she's...
Which you would be like, why is that important?
But it is. Yeah, because she's been on a show called
Virgin Island. Why are all these dating shows on
islands? Who started that? I think it is a
play on the fact of the Virgin Islands.
The place in the world.
It's like I had a lull about that.
But they put all these virgins on an island
and do therapy with them to just
trying to, like, get over whatever he's stopping them from being physically intimate.
And I think you were the same, Clint,
it was going to be one of those shows where they kind of take the piss out of them.
But I don't think it is after she explained it.
Yeah, it's definitely one of those shows that you want to go and watch
after hearing her talk about it.
And it's only like six episodes on TVNZ Plus,
so you can get amongst it and check it out for sure.
But she's a 23-year-old virgin.
Not sure how old the other guys and girls are.
Which is not old.
I wouldn't say that's old enough.
to be like, I'm still a virgin.
No, Dan, actually, you could have been captain of the island.
You were much later than that.
Yeah, I could have been, yeah.
I could have been the mere.
She did say that they were like, she knew that there was something within her that was
stopping her.
So she knew that if she hadn't gotten some therapy, she probably, who knows how long it would
have, you know.
I'll say this as well when I was looking at the photos that she's, because she's been
on a few daily mail and the Sun articles and stuff.
And there's photos from her Instagram.
She looks very confident.
She's a beautiful girl.
And then I was going in my head.
Is she just trying to get on a reality TV show?
Because we know those people that are just desperate to be on any show.
And then as you start talking to her, you realize how genuine she is.
And I felt awful for even thinking it when reading articles.
You're a horrible guy.
God, he's a horrible guy.
It thinks the worst of everyone.
Mother Teresa could walk into the room and he'd go, oh, ugly.
God, look at her bare feet.
Maybe I should keep my inner thoughts inside sometimes.
Don't do that because then you won't say anything and would just be mean down.
and talking or down the radio.
That's true.
All right, well, what is it like going on?
On a reality TV show
with the whole reason that you're on there
is because you're a virgin.
We'll take a listen.
Hello, guys.
Thank you for having me.
I can't believe I'm here.
I can't believe you're here.
It's fantastic.
I'm loving my life here in New Zealand so far.
So I'm really glad that you guys
able to reach out to me.
And to be fair, I never knew
that it was going to come to TVNZ.
So, yeah, it was such a fix of emotions at once
because I'm getting recognised in the street
and I'm like, what's going on?
So, it's so it's Virgin Island.
I'm imagining there's 12 virgins, go on to the island.
And how do you leave?
Yeah, can you only leave the island?
Yes, no spoilers.
No, so basically, yeah, 12 virgin, six boys, six girls,
none of us knew each other.
We get sent to this island in Croatia,
and we get put there with a group of therapists
to where we're going to learn about intimacy
and they're going to guide us through the process
of just becoming more comfortable with our natural selves
and being more open to the world of sex
and getting to know other people.
Yeah, I think it's a really incredible concept
which hasn't been brought to tell you before.
So I love that they've brought this in
because it's very controversial
but I think that's good because people aren't used to seeing it
And I do think there is a big problem around online dating
and people are using Tinder and Hinge
and they're all these apps nowadays
and it's very like, I never likes that
because it's kind of like you swipe.
It's like you build a bear, right?
Yes, 100%.
And I find with online dating, it can be very difficult
and that really added to the block
with my fear of intimacy.
So, yeah.
We explained that beautifully.
You were only, you were 23 when you went onto the island.
Now, full disclosure, Dan and I were both virgins at 23.
Yeah, we were like, oh, wow.
Yeah, absolutely.
So was it just that you hadn't met the right person or did you really have blockages in the way
and actual fear of being intimate?
Yeah, I had a lot of blockages.
And there were so many times where I would go to house parties, there'll be other boys there.
And I would be like, and maybe some.
something would happen. They would take me up to a bedroom, but then I would just get the fear.
And this thing inside me would be like, no, you can't do it. And I would just have to leave.
But there was a lot of things which came up like that. And then a couple, I think it was maybe just before Virgin Island was even like they were looking for people.
I remember I came to this sort of like conclusion in my head that I'd been through a lot of childhood trauma.
Yeah. And that had added to my reasons for intimacy. Yeah. So Virgin Island really helped me to
break that down and the therapist like speaking all three through each step and with the sessions
I had with them they just made it like really easy and that's awesome that's incredible yeah
because you look at the thing you hear the premise and you think oh it's a sex show it's it's just
cheap entertainment but what you're saying is that it really did change your life for the better
100% yeah I don't know where I'd be without it oh that's so cool I wish I had it as well because
I was 26 when I lost my virginity see this is really crazy to me but I like that because so when I
actually applied for the show the advert was
are you over 21 and still a virgin
and I was like what the hell like yeah
that's me yeah but I also
thought oh okay well this can't be normal for them to make a TV
show about it but then I thought the same
as you I was like what are the levels like
how many people have stopped having sex
and how many like it's very interesting
so 26 that's crazy to me
and I think a lot of people maybe
maybe they don't go to that age but where you sort of get
to a point where you've left it so long
that then it becomes a thing
and then you're kind of like, oh my God.
His first time can't be shitty
because I've waited so long,
even though most people's first times are pretty shitty.
Yeah, but I wish I kind of had this,
I guess, vehicle where you could kind of get that monkey off your back
with no pressure, you know,
and it was done in a good kind of environment like this.
Yes, because that was the thing as well for me.
I was like, if I ever do lose my virginity,
I can't go on a one-night stand or I can't go home with some bloke
because he might expect me to know everything in the bedroom.
And I know some people,
People don't like it if you're a virgin, but also some men really like it if you're a virgin.
Exactly. If you feel like you're this shiny thing, then they're upset.
Of course, and I wouldn't want to be used as like a ploy.
No, right.
It does feel like the whole premise of the show is very different from what I thought in the outset.
When it says producers hope the virginal participants will pop each other's cherries.
However, if that fails, then they will turn to help from specialists known as sex surrogates.
What is a sex surrogate on the show, and do we see them on the show?
Yes, we see.
So there is two sex surrogates
And I think there is seven therapists
So there's three males and three females
One of the therapies is like a psychological person
So she'll speak to us through the mental side of things
But three of the women will
Like they can kiss the boys
Or they will touch the boys and they will touch them back
But then only one female and one woman
Was there to have sex with us
But yeah so if you
When you watch the show
we have therapy sessions
so we have workshops in the morning
which is all of the contributors and all of the
therapists and then in the
throughout the day
we have one on one therapy sessions
and then that's where we would all go in with our therapist
and it would help us through
because I know Dave he got quite far in his sessions
he got quite intimate quite quickly
but yeah people would be
yeah people would be listening and that thinking
that is very weird
I watched a movie years ago with Helen Hunt
and she plays a sex surrogate to someone with a disability.
And it opened my eyes completely to the fact that there are a lot of people in the world
for whom having a relationship is impossible or there's whatever, physical mental barriers, whatever it is.
And there are men and women who will come in and say, okay, let's work at this together.
And it is a means of therapy.
Like a personal trainer, just without your clothes on, I guess.
It's just like it's seeing it not as something to be ashamed of, but a normal bodily need.
that another person can help you in.
Okay, but then what happens if, like, you say, Dave, move quite quickly.
Once you're no longer a virgin on Virgin Island, is it like, pack your bags?
See you later, mate.
Or do you get to still keep working on yourself?
Yeah, so we all stay to the end because we had like a graduation ceremony.
But I think, yeah, I don't know.
So once he lost his virginity, I do think that was it.
But if it happened quite early on into the program, that's an interesting concept.
Would he try different physicians?
Yeah.
Oh, this is what I like, this is what I don't like.
I don't know.
Strutton his stuff on the island?
Yeah, like he's dogs, boy.
Yeah, fuck you all peasants.
A bunch of virgins.
Yeah.
He goes from being one of you to just like throwing shade
at the buffet during breakfast.
I love this though.
Because it means that you can talk,
I think there's this real taboo around virginity and stuff.
And like if you haven't lost your virginity by the time,
you're 21, you're like weird.
That is so wrong, I think.
And I think we need to talk about it more.
You need to, like, lose it when you're ready to.
You should not be ashamed.
And it's not really a thing.
It's not.
Like, I couldn't give two craps about when I lost my virginity.
It wasn't a big deal when it happened.
Afterwards, I was like, that's it.
Like, you know.
And the real amazing sex came from me when I found someone I really loved
and it became something intimate.
But we make it what we want to make it.
And I think if there is anyone listening who feels an one iota of shame,
about the fact that they are or are not a virgin,
you've got to get rid of that.
And good on you for going on the show.
I reckon it would have taken a lot of guts to go on it as well.
I always wonder what your family and friends think.
I mean, on any reality dating show,
but probably this one in particular.
Yeah, so when I applied for it,
obviously I sent a little video of myself in,
didn't think anything would come of it,
and then I get contacted by production
and they want pictures of me and my friends.
And they want to, I think they want to see that you're a real person.
and they like to have quite a few Zoom meetings
and then I went up to London
and then before I know I was casted
but before I was actually
had been told that I had mentioned it to my mother
and she was very
she was like oh my God this is incredible
this is brilliant
and she actually thought it was quite good
but then she spoke to my stepdad
and that's when it all switched
and then she became very quite panicky
I think they were both very nervous for me to go on
And I understand completely
because it is a guinea pig show
It's never been on tell you before
Things like love is blind or Love Island
You can watch that and be like
Oh okay I'm getting myself in for that
But with Virgin Ireland we were going in really blind
And I was like I don't know what I'm getting myself into for
But my dad I didn't actually tell him to after filming
Because I thought he was going to try to put me off it
And I really and my mum tried to put me off it
And the production
They actually did say to me like
Oh if you want to withdraw you can
And I was like, no, I really don't want to.
Good on you.
Just because family members are holding me back doesn't mean I should stop doing something
which has been like breaking me off and causing this block on my life for these years.
And has it changed your life?
Like, do you feel and, yeah, has it changed your life?
And have they now come on board and said, oh, this is actually a good thing for you?
Yes.
Yes, I think they have, definitely.
I mean, obviously there's some scenes in the show.
Like, I go to a tent and I have it.
I masturbate for the first time.
Right.
My dad, I had to say, oh, yeah, don't watch that soon.
My dad and my brother.
I was like, yeah, skip this part.
Yes.
And so you have done that before going on there as well?
No, yeah, had done nothing like that.
Oh my gosh, glorious.
I'm so happy for you.
That would have been, wow, just a whole game changer for you.
No, 100%.
And like we say with people feeling guilt with virginity and like their maybe from 16 or even
up until early 20s, what the kicker was for me is I would go out drinking with my friends.
And they would be like, oh, Ted.
Like, never have I ever had sex in a bush?
Never have I ever done things outside.
And I'm like, oh, just sat back, I can't say anything.
Yes, exactly.
Poor Emma's, like, sloshed after the first round.
Too fucking right.
And that's it.
I feel like there is a social expectation just from friends.
Oh, like, oh, like, oh, when are you going to have sex?
Or, like, you go to the clubs and they go home with someone.
And then it's like, oh, I can't do that.
Or some of my friends are, like, in relationships, they're getting engaged and they have kids.
And I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh.
I'm still single and ever had sex
So, yeah, it was an incredible journey
I can ask because I'm a girl, less awkward
I know what you're nice, have you had sex now?
Spoil.
Is that a spoiler?
Is that a spoiler?
Yeah.
I guess you can be, you can say you have to watch the show and see.
You want to.
Only on the age exclusive, I guess.
There we go.
Yeah, so no, I'm no longer a virgin.
I was staying at a hostel in Sydney
and some guys, oh, don't, it's so tragic, it's awful.
It's not, no, it's a ride of passage that a girl from England would lose her virginity in a hostel in Bondi Beach.
Oh, exactly.
Was it in Bondi?
No, it wasn't gleam.
Okay, so it's just a thing.
And so when you build it up in your head for 23, 24 years, out of 10, what did it actually end up being?
Oh, God, maybe like a three.
Yeah, it was the guy.
That is the correct experience, so it's a rite of passage.
You know, he said to me, do you want to come to my hostel room for us?
for a cuddle, I was like, yeah, fuck it.
It wasn't a cuddle.
And then, do you know what?
Yeah, that was it.
Fine, easy. But then he actually, so
that was it. Like, I've lost my virginity,
but I haven't had, like, enjoyable sex since.
So I kind of, like, am on the fence still.
But then, after that, I remember a couple days later,
I was actually walking out of reception.
He sat there with all his mates, and they're like,
what, she's a virgin? And they're all talking about it.
But this was, like, before,
Virgin Island came out. This was like before anything. So I was like, oh my God, why are they
talking about me like that? So that's interesting. So you told the person that you slept with
for the very first time before sleeping with them that you're a virgin. No, I didn't tell them.
So they knew. So I said to them, they said how many people you slept with? I just said two, right?
Because I was always like, I feel like we say, if someone knows you're a virgin, it can be very
hit and this how they take it. And I didn't want someone to take advantage of it. Good on you.
So I was just like, oh yeah, I slept with two people.
And then he was like, no, you're a virgin.
I was like, what? How do you know?
He was like, oh, I can tell.
I was like, fuck.
These men are smarter than I thought, clearly.
No, no.
Okay, so.
Now with all this newfound confidence that you have,
you're sitting your sights on any more reality TV, you know, Love Island.
You're very funny.
You would be great.
In the business that we say, she's great talent.
Oh, my gosh, yes.
I would love to do Love Island or something like that.
I know you guys have like Fuck Boy Island.
That's a thing like that, right?
Maybe do Love Island first, then go.
to fuck boy island.
They're all in the same person of area.
That's a hell of elite, babe, if I'm honest.
Too right, you're right, it is.
They go to Love Island and swim to fuck boy island.
Too right, too right.
Well, good laugh.
You've got so much ahead of you.
So much wonderful enjoyment of sex to come.
It sounds like you're a smart girl.
You know what you want
and you're in control of your own destiny now,
which I think is so powerful.
So we're cheering you on, pain.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
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