The Edge Breakfast - OVERTHINKERS caught him doing what on camera?

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

I’m still shaking from this one, but mostly because Meg is currently spiralling over a listener’s text. We started off with some lovely feedback from Izzy, a long-time listener, but things took a turn when we started reimagining the office as a bedroom—mirror on the ceiling and all. We dive into why hallway cameras are a terrible idea and find out exactly how Dan would react if our producer Carl actually quit. We also address a mean text sent to the show - we see them all!! 0:00 – Moving the furniture and ceiling mirrors. 2:15 – The POV hallway camera scandal. 4:30 – Carl "quits" and Meg loses it. 6:10 – Meg’s secret life as a traveler... 8:45 – The Muffin Break text that ruined Meg’s day. 11:20 – Would you rather: Read minds or be rated 1–10?

This is a podcast from Rover. This is the Overtinkers podcast. Hiro and welcome to the podcast with your host Clint Meek and Dan. Yes, welcome. Good to have you here. We know there's a lot of podcasts out and you've chosen this one. Thank you. Indeed, actually, a lot of things to get through this morning.

There's quite a bit of listener feedback on Overthinkers' feedback Instagram page. You got mail. I haven't opened them all, but I need to get through them. Let's see, this one's from Izzy Hi, Meg Clinton, Dan Oh, I like that you put my name first, thanks Izzy That's nice Rolls off the tongue bedded, isn't it?

I'm a long-time listener, first-time texter I haven't called as of yet either So this is somebody we've never heard of Or heard from ever Which I think is always quite cool I just wanted to message and say hello And give some feedback Uh-oh

Okay, I haven't pre-read this By the voice So hold on, she's never, She's never reached out before But she feels so compelled to Yeah, okay I'm 24 and I've been avid listener for six years to both radio and the podcasts.

I work as a leading agent in the hut. Oh, yeah, the hut. So a lot of my time has spent either in the car or at empty properties for hours, so I always had the podcast on. I've been with my partner for 10 years, and I talked to him about you guys. Like you're all my good friends. Meg, it's so good to have you back. Thank you.

I said in the kiss, not her. Since you guys have come back this year, you guys have all been on fire. Oh, good. That's good. That's good. That is not what management is saying. I'm waiting for the butt. Me too.

Me too. I haven't read a head. I haven't read a head. Thank you for saying so I save me back. I have laughed out loud more than once every single day. Not sure yet about the changes on the Overtinkers podcast. There it is. But I'm sure it will grow on me. Anyway, I hope you have a great Tuesday. Hey.

I love you, Izzy. We call this a whip, don't we? Work and progress. Obviously there'll be changes. There'll always be changes. Like anything, you know. I wonder what it is. Maybe people could be specific about what they used to like that feels like it's missing.

because I'd love to find that if there is something missing, how we put it back. I feel like what we've actually done is just we've got all the same shit in the room. We've just moved the bed and the mirror is now on a different wall and stuff. Yeah, Clint put the mirror on the roof. But it's like it's the same bedroom. We just move some shit around. But maybe people feel like we've taken things out of the room. What do we do with that lovely coffee table I brought from Freedom Furniture?

Oh, God. I was so sick of that. I kept bumping my shin on it. Oh, is that why it's gone? Yeah. Produce Cal? Well, as well as Clint put it. the mirror on the ceiling. There's also cameras in here now that we're doing the video podcast.

It's kind of weird, bro. I put them in. My parents... My parents have cameras... I like to watch Ashland and do her show. They have cameras on the inside of their house. Oh yeah, the one that your mum's got on the headboard, eh? No. No, you fucking... That live streams to a website. I've watched it.

Yeah, and she makes your dad wear that headstrap one, the GoPro on his 40. They call that POV. They can't get the video off at those. They're just not very good with technology. No, they just send it me and I go. No, they'll have like cameras

in the hallway and in the lounge. Wow. And it's kind of, it's a, well, it's a place that they use probably 50% of the time

up north. They've sort of built it to retire. Listen to that. Imagine that. Imagine that spending 50% of the time at her house, Meg.

She's not listening. She's doing. What are you doing? No, 50% of the... 50% of the time in the house that I grew up in and the other 50% in the one that built up north

is their retirement spot. I think they'll end up being there full time. Oh, really? I actually thought it was going to be a bat. that we could use that it'd be empty most weekends. No, it's not. But when you do it go up there,

it means my brother has the app, so my brother and my parents can jump in and see what we're doing inside the house. No, I couldn't do that. I'd turn the cameras around, like I'd face them, make them face the wall or something. Yeah, but then everyone would suspect what are you doing? Do you know what I mean?

I'd rather that suspecting them than actually seeing me masturbating in the hallway, you know? Better to think you're doing it and not know. then definitely he's doing it again Not on the rug Daniel Jesus

The whole way You literally couldn't get to a room Soon as he walked in Sometimes the moment It just takes you On his way to the bedroom I'm not gonna make it I'm not gonna make it

I'm not gonna make it I would not at Clint's mum's house Anyway Is there any more mail There's more mails But do you want me to leave it for another day Leave it for another day And we'll move on

There's more mail Yeah But do let us know Hey, my kids are doing a, effectively it's a cross-country. But you know what they've done to make cross-country's way more woke? Oh, God. To make it more fun for everyone and so they all participate? Yeah.

It's a colour run. Okay, but that's fine. You run round and round and round. At the end, all the teachers throw colour dust all over the kids. Oh, that's fine. I thought you meant it was not a cross-country anymore. They just had to, like, crawl or do anything. No, they don't do these big, like, they don't do these big,

runs all around the street. They'd just go round and around the school field like two or three times and get colour thrown on them and they try and get money out of parents to raise money. I'm like, no, make them do all the shit that we had to do. To be what? I've always thought that doing a cross country with kids on main public highways

is dangerous. I remember when I was doing it, we used to run around the roads you know. Yeah, exactly. We lost a lot of good kids. Oh no, cross countries. We did. We did a lot of good kids. And so I think it's probably better to keep them in controlled situations on the field. No, because then when you go to watch

and then the kids go and hug you and they get shit all over your clothes. Oh, Clint, you've never got sleeves on anyway, so it'd just be the man. They get shown in my singlets. Yeah, there you go. On your arms, on your up, biceps. Quite often Clint's not wearing a shirt at all. It is funny when you see the parents, when they show up and they might go to support if they knock off work early.

You know, the different ones that are like the real estate agents. Yeah. And they're like suit and shirts and stuff. Well, the thing is with the real estate agent, you have to look the part. You're not necessarily successful, but you have to drive around in a nice car. in a nice suit. Otherwise, people will never sell their house, if you know what I mean. True.

It's all about dressing for the job you want. Yeah, like if I was going to be a real estate agent, I'd go and buy a BMW in a nice suit. And it would probably be a shitty BMW, like a secondhand one, but at least I've got a BMW, you know? That's what I'd do. You'd do real estate agenting if you weren't in this, eh? Well, it's one of the things, you know, once this dries up, you know, maybe I could move into that. I think a lot of radio announcers do because they're charismatic.

and gift of the gab sort of thing I'd be awful at it and it's an excuse to buy a BMW I think the natural progression is to move into like management because you've done so many years in radio but do you know the bit that skews me the most of it's so dumb

people coming to me wanting annual leave and me having to say no because I either don't have cover or I can't and I'd be like I'm pissed I get pissed off when I'm not allowed to take my legal annual leave that I have accrued now so imagine if I'm the boss

having to do that. I reckon I couldn't do that. I'd have to outsource that. You'd be such a shit boss as well. You'd be too late, nice. No, but that's... You'd be the cool boss, eh? He'd be like, broying down with all his announcers and shit. And everyone would be on holiday at the same time, no one to run the station, because they all just wanted the same... The stations all collapsed. And then Clinton'd just put himself on here. He'd be like, I'm back on air again for a week in a row.

Don't worry, team. Yeah, it got me. He'd be on here more than the announcers that they hired. And it'd be like, actually, the problem is, I have 48 weeks of leave. So, um... Yeah. I'm never going to be here. Yeah. go. What would you do, Meg?

As I did this job. Yeah. Stuffed. I got no other skills. We always thought about this. No, you must have thought about it. Like if radio just fell over. You said something, got you cancelled, all of a sudden, and the week it's gone.

What are you doing? I don't have a backup plan. I know. I know. And I don't have a backup plan. What if they say, Meg, you're done. You'd go on. I'd lose my house.

No, you wouldn't. Only fans is at least a backstop. That you could, you wouldn't lose your house. You'd do only fans before you lost your house. I reckon Meg, you'd, you'd, You could do some sort of organisation behind the scenes for like a little sort of craft fair or something. You could be like the admin woman. Well, that's going to make me 50 bucks a month.

Yeah, and then you'd have to do only fans at night. Or you and you know what you and Guy would suit gypsies. You could be travelling gypsies. You could sell your house up and buy one of those caravit, those like house buses with a chimney. You know, house buses with a chimney. And you could go around you, Nala, your kids. Your kids could become two little like singing gypsies. Is gypsy like a...

It's a, yeah, bad word. Derogatory term. Oh, bugger. Can I get this. It's the video podcast. Hold on, I went to a gypsy fear last year, and it was called the gypsy fair. Was it called the gypsy fare? In Topol. Are you sure?

I don't know. I'm going to take it. I called it a gypsy fair and one of them hit me. You thought it was fun. Yeah, they tried to strangle me with a dream catcher. No. Yes, Nipia. Can't hear you, Nipia?

No, can't hear you still. Last chance. It's called the Topo Gypsy Fair on Facebook. Oh, well, there we go. Oh, no, sorry, I was pressing the wrong button. My mum is a rural lawyer And so their big day of the year Is used to be called Gypsy Day

They've changed it to moving day Because that's when they move all the cows A bit of information for you there Funnily enough, though The Gypsy Fair New Zealand Yeah there is, I'm sure it said the Gypsy Fair And they all travel around New Zealand You know, in their buses

They convoy and they stop And they sell dream, literally dream catches And there's a goat there And they sell incense, crystals Meke had a dream the other day I wasn't even in it Everyone was in it, but me Yeah, yeah

Poor producer Carl killed in an airstrike We did a team trip I think to some sort of war zone And producer Carl Producer Sam Sharon and Steph who used to work At the edge

Everyone They all died Clint was off at the hiding bar drinking I think And me and Dan had to do the show And our boss was like Guys the show must go on And I was like crying for Carl

And Dan was like Meg, pull it together. It's hardly fun. It's very far-fetched, though, isn't it, that dream? Meg would never cry for Carl if he'd go. It's like the time you came second in a Taekwondo contest. I was like, it's your dream. Why wouldn't you win?

It'd be the first one to say, all right, well, here's Deb. Show must go on. We have to keep doing the show. Carl would have wanted it to. Yeah, you know, me and the show. Yeah, just keep going. It's probably a stunt, wasn't it? It's probably our center to the war zone as a stunt.

See if you can catch one of those bombs. Do you know what was really telling yesterday? because just in thinking about Meg being sad if you died, Carl. The boss and our two I see, he ended up coming in yesterday. Jack. And I weren't really sure what was going on. And then Carl said, hey, can you just put the mics in to record? We just want to record something.

I thought, okay. It was very ominous. And then it went silent. So, guys, I'm going to be leaving the show. I burst into tears. I just filled the silence because that's what I have to do because it was awkward. And then Meg started crying within literally half a second. Dan, zero fucks.

No reaction. Like, where are you going? No reaction. I sort of, for a split second, I went, oh, go on, really? And then I was like, yeah, but where's he going? Dan, I think he even smiled a bit. I want to see the tape. I think he smiled.

He's just like, huh. Yeah, well, Meg, like, instant, like, I reckon you'd said, I'm leaving the show, and you went to the W and show, and Meg already had a tear coming out. Yeah. Of her, like, it's the most instant cry I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, it was very nice, actually. Even though it was mean to Meg, I felt special.

Yeah, Clint even Texas said, thanks for crying for me later. And I said, oh, yeah, you'd have to set up a six-step plan if you guys ever actually wanted to leave me because I don't think you realize how much I love both of you. And then Dan left me on scene, and Clint said, that's nice. Oh, it's busy. So. Also, I said it's a bit scary.

So we need a six-step plan because I don't even know what the five steps are. It was a bit of a stage five-clinger energy, wasn't it? The last step is obviously me saying, I'm leaving. I don't know what the other five previous steps to that. He's got a contract for the next three. You're stuck with him for the next three years. That makes me happy.

Dan, he'll be licking his lips, eh? Gets to be the top dog. No, I wouldn't want to do your position. He gets to be the top dog. I'd be the top dog if you left. Guys. That's who I see. What am I the Prince William here, am I?

He's Charles. Or are you fucking Camilla or something? Like am I? Are you Harry? Apparently? Yeah. Just like the, yeah, okay. Interesting.

Okay, what's the question? Come on. Oh my God, yeah, I've got my question. I've been around the bush. Guys, in all seriousness, I'm a bit thrown and pissed off by a text that came in, and it's like really shaking me. Just read it out. Come on.

Somebody said, I think Meg's favorite thing is her mobile phone, watched her at Northwest, sit down for coffee, and ignored Guy and her daughter. And it's actually going to make me cry. I'm so mad because it's so untrue. It's, like, unbelievably untrue. Yeah, I'm sure, I would have gone on my phone, checked an email, probably a work thing that we were doing.

Genuinely, like, I'm not going to sit there. I'm... Like, I don't even know when it happened. But that just pisses me off that I can't even go and, like, have a coffee without somebody looking at me and judging me and thinking a bad mom for looking at my phone for whatever amount of time, which wouldn't have been long. I remember that day. And I was absolutely holding my baby for most of that time during that coffee.

And talking to Guy the whole time, I just, it just makes me so angry in this job sometimes that, oh, I don't even want to be in it. That pisses me off that they have judged me and will. hold on to that interaction that wasn't even with me and if I, if they like, do you know what I mean? I know you've done sad music there for them, but that like that really pisses me off that like I'm judged from

like looking at my phone for what would have been a flashing, somebody just walked past me in the mall and they've now like, well, he's a bad wife and mum. But why are you and that bother you? Because she's just some random woman. I know, but I think it just annoys, the hardest thing about the job is that you have to apparently be the best version of yourself at all times. I've got so much going on

behind the scenes as well. And now, like, one person looks at me... No, no. You know, the only other text they've ever done is asking people to denote to the Hap Foundation Street Collection. So this is a person who's like, you know, morally great as well. Isn't that such a fucking horrible thing to say to me?

If you text our show, we can actually click on your name and then click history and we'll show us every single text you've ever sent us. So we get a vibe as to whether you're a bit of a bully, you like just throwing shade, you're angry at the world. I bet that person has it never been on their phone around their family, right? Like, it's just like, it's just a horrible thing. Because the thing is why it upsets me, Dan,

is because it hits right where I don't want to be. My worst nightmare is to be a bad mum. I do everything to my kids. You're far from it. You're far from a bad mum, me. Oh, God, people are so mean. It's so mean. If I tried to have a conversation with an eight-month-old, they don't give a lot of that.

God, it's so mean. I just give everything to my kids. And obviously, I am so close to my husband. Everyone knows how much, well, anyone that knows our background, how much I, like, do for a guy and love guy. Were you at Muffin'ry? Yeah, we were. I could have told you that

I could have told you that. I think for me it's the it's the like you say not been able to just have some time to yourself to, I don't know it could have even

Could have been texting my mum Could have been texting my mum which by the way is going through health trouble so fuck you It won't be this but let's say Meg was organising a surprise for her husband right

and she got a text and she said oh shit like we don't know it could be anything but it is interesting that we just see being on your phone as a complete, not a waste of time. And ignoring your

kidding your husband. Yeah, my thing is though, don't give this person any like she's just, she's just some it's exactly where I feel like I can't even go out without apparently. I don't remember seeing this person, if I ever see somebody, I'm always happy to talk to them or smile or hang out

or whatever they want to do, but they've judged me on walking past me. But okay, but this is, okay, maybe this is the underlying thing, and you can tell us to back off, if you're don't want to talk about it, Meg, but the difference between, I guess, Dan and I having a similar thing going, cool, whatever, I know deep down on my great mum,

like, if I'm you. You're referring to self as a mum. So that means nothing, because it would be like someone arguing with me that the sky is purple. And I'm like, well, it's fucking blue, and I'm not going to get into it because I know you're wrong. Whereas when you give it emotion, it's...

You're right. And it's because it's my worst nightmare. It's my worst thing to be seen or to be a bad mother. So that person has had at my absolute, like, core what I get scared of. Like, am I good enough for my kids? Am I a good enough wife? Like speaking into an insecurity?

Yes. Yeah, of like... Yeah, okay. Like, my whole being of here is to, like, be a good wife and mum, and, like, my family has everything to me, so they've just had it at something that I go, oh shit, you're right, maybe I shouldn't ever be on my phone, ever, and, like, in front of my husband, like, it's just, yeah,

sorry, it's so frustrating, and it's just really shit that now I'm like, okay, I can't go to them all and be on my phone now, ever, because people might look at me and go, she's a bad mom. Like, she's a bad wife. She's a bad person. And it shouldn't bother me. But that's just, I think it's because at the moment, yeah, I'm giving everything I can

outside of this. And I've been told, because I've got some health stuff going behind the scenes, that I need to look after myself more. And then that just tells me, no, be more selfless. Like, don't ever have any break. Right, I get it. Sorry. Let's do the fucking stupid question that I wrote on Saturday.

You want to hear how fucking dumb it is? Okay, let's... All right, it's time for the Overtinkers' dumb fucking questions. Today on the Overtinkers podcast. We're overthinking. Actually, quite timely. Would you rather, I wrote this one said they know. You can read minds.

You can read minds. Okay, read minds. But only when people think bad thoughts about you. Oh, yuck. Ignorance is bliss, though, right? Well, that's what, I guess, what we're talking about here, that you guys can switch it off.

This is like almost... I... Just before we quickly move on, this is the difference between Meg and I, and I don't know if it's Clint as well. And Meg wears her heart on her sleeve. And there are pros and cons for that. Yeah, yeah, there is.

Whereas if someone takes anything negative about me, that, like, excites me. I don't know why. Really? It, like, makes me all, like, oh, fuck you. You know? I want to prove you wrong. Whereas it sucks that you'd think negatively

of this person, because there are nobody. Like, and look at you What you're doing right now You're a successful Professional broadcaster At the top of your game And this person's just like Sensitive fucking text

And don't they say Don't take criticism from someone You never take advice from? Like you don't know this person You're right You're right It's so crazy to think That that that has thrown you that much

Also how dare they like tarnish My favourite place In the world muffin break Yeah So were they just sitting in there watching me The whole time Getting a coffee as well Focus on your own life

Stuff in your face with a muffin You know, like, do you just check if you can get shares in muffin break me because you should. You love it. It's just be a real fun thing for you. You just shouldn't let those people, that sort of person, like, get in the way of you being happy. Don't let them. Don't let them. Why are you even listening to us if you hate me that much?

Well, maybe she does as well. That's the other thing. Maybe she's just text that thinking she was funny. And really, she's, you know, got you. Maybe she's not a horrible person. Okay, let me see, well, we can just move on. I was going to try and see if I could read it in a fun way. See, you know, maybe we've been reading it wrong.

I'm like, part of me wants to call them, but we won't. Okay. No, no. I think Meg's favorite thing is a mobile phone. No, I don't think it works for. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

What's the question? Okay. Okay, would you rather you can read minds by only when people think bad thoughts about you, or anytime somebody meets you for the first time, and that could be like you're at the grocery store and they go, oh, good morning, you know, and they're serving you. Not somebody just walking past you, but you've, like, had a conversation with them you're talking to them.

They have to rate you out of 10 out loud when they meet you. Of looks or just personality or everything? They just meet you. They just meet you. So they go six. Out loud. I think I'd prefer that.

At least they're just shouting a number. Rather me hearing... Remember that movie? It was with Mel Gibson. It was what women want. Yeah. And he started hearing all women's thoughts good and bad.

And it was not fun for him. I don't remember. I kind of like the thoughts thing, though, because then I could call them out about it. Really? So I go, if you're going to be like, what an ugly can, I'll be like, what did you just think? And you'd be like, what did you just think?

Yeah, and I feel like I'd use it to my advantage. Or if they go, well, he's fucking rude. And then you go, and then you can, I guess, stop and go, hey, I'm really sorry, I felt like I kind of rushed our interaction there. I apologize for that. I've just had a bit of a lot on. Then they go, oh, no, you're right? And then they're like, oh, my God, I absolutely got him wrong.

So you could correct people's opinion, but again, it just feels like a lot of admin. I'd be so, I'd absolutely do the second one, and I'd be, it would become, so mind, I mean. Oh yeah, because of course you just want to hear, 10, 10, 10. No, then go four, and I go, cool, all right, move on.

You're like, is there a golf range around here? Scam my avocados, all right, yeah. I'd use it to get a pay rise. I go to my boss and go, if you don't give me a pay rise, I'll go and tell Ashley, what are your thing about her tits the other day. No, you only hear what, the bad thoughts about you. Oh, fuck. But now we know.

And he's like, I'm doing you at HR. You think I've got a small dick. That's more like it. Thanks, because. I don't know why our boss is thinking that. Just because I thought that doesn't mean I'm fine. I'm like, fuck, okay. See you later.

So you think I've got a small dick, though? Yep, see you later. You're right, but that annoys me. Go ahead and get the boss five for that one. No. Oh, well, back to the drawing board. Should we dry that when we're around each other? Obviously not in front of them, but we see someone walk past and they go past and we shut a number out.

See how it goes. We'll trial it. We'll try it. Why don't you go trial it now? Go on. I mean, it's very visual. You're just going to hear me yell out on those. It was your idea.

No, but I mean when we are just hanging out as friends. So we'd see someone, wait for them to be out of airshot, and then we go now and just shout the number. What number would you yell out for Meg and I? If we walk past, you've never met us with us. Dress like your dress now? Yeah, both of us. I'm just being bored.

Just remember Meg's been crying. You've never met her before. Yeah, hi. 8.8. Fucking out. Oh, I hate it because he's only doing it to try to cheer me up. And he still went low. And he still went low.

Yeah. Oh, fuck. He could have done 10. Oh yeah, but he's doing it to cheer me up. He said he and he going, what can I do to make her think that I'm not just saying a number? Because I can't do it too high because then she knows I'm just saying it to cheer her up,

but I can't go too low. What is it your honest number? Can you do points? Dan. Yeah, no one's a 10. I mean, Megan Fox is a 10. Megan's a 10. And that's why you've always got to save that sort of upper echelon for that sort of thing.

I'm happy. Dan. Oh, wow. Well, this is ended. No. Should we do it at the same time? No, you're not involved. We're just medium?

Oh, we're not just... You can't talk, old bloody puffin eyes, bloody crying woman. What? Oh, okay, now he looks uglier to me now. Three! Yeah, for you, we're going to get a 6.3, but now you're getting a 4.8. 6.3? I haven't even fucking cried. This is being at my best.

Get you next time. Jesus Christ. Thanks for listening. Okay.