The Edge Breakfast - OVERTHINKERS Dans absent dad

Episode Date: May 3, 2026

We’re going deep today, and honestly, things get heavy fast. Dan opens up about the one thing he wishes he could change—his relationship with his dad—and there wasn't a dry eye in the studio. But because we physically can’t stay serious for long, we’re also debating the physics of "Guess the Fart" and why Clint spent five years of his youth avoiding home base. It’s a lot, so buckle in 0:00 – Is Dan actually getting fired? 4:05 – The "rug pull" of maternity leave 8:20 – Meg’s YouTube fame & uni regrets 12:15 – Clint’s legendary five-year "streak" 15:40 – The dad Dan never had 21:50 – "Guess the Fart" drama

This is a podcast from Rover. This is the Overthinkers podcast. Welcome, good me and Dan. Did you get that on the mic? That's ironic. Now everyone's wondering why Dan's going to get fired. Oh, Lord. I don't want fire, Dan.

I say what I want, when I want. And I said something just then. You don't say it again then. I said if they want to fire me, they can. My contract's up at the end of the year. Well, then they're not really firing you. If your contract's up and then they don't hire you, there isn't a firing.

They just don't need your services anymore. Exactly. Yeah, but, oh, okay. So, yeah, that's just like a different thing. I guess they're letting you go. They're not retaining your services. But, yeah, that is radio. I mean, if you didn't know, you just sign one, two, three-year contracts.

I mean, some might even sign five years. Who knows? But it does mean at the end of the stint. That's it. If they don't want to rehire you, see you later. Yeah, but then you can do that with, Lots of jobs. I think there's like, I mean, my wife, Hannah, she signed once a year,

paternity or maternity leave contract where she was covering for someone for a year. And then at the end of it, they were like, we want to keep you. That happens often. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it can work both ways. A lot of the time, I suppose, the mum who's taken the time off is probably still deciding whether or not they do want to come back.

Yeah. And I think she did come back in the end, but then they needed more people. So they actually wanted to stay on. Oh, perfect. That was a years ago, though, now. Yeah, because there are some places where, you know, know, the person will go away on mat leave, and then the job will get sort of,

the rug will get pulled out from under their feet. Yeah, that has happened in instances where you, that's why women are so scared in maternity leave. Yeah. You know? It is, yeah. It's like amazing to have that holiday. Holiday.

Interesting word. Put your feet up for six months, eh? Yeah. But, you know, the flip side of that is maybe not coming back to a job that you legally are supposed to return. I find a way, though, return. I tell you what, though, when my wife. was breastfeeding. She did very little else.

Just sat there. Just making milk from her body. You got mail. To feed your child's milk. Right, male, yes. I was just trying to get her rise out of meg. She didn't buy it because she's a professional. Well, I'm so fucking over it. There's been a lot today.

It's been a lot. I was actually looking for something in the background that I had for prep, but actually we have a great mail bag. Were you looking at something, Clint? and I'm just trying to find something nice, like some storytelling music. Oh, I've got a little mailbag. Yeah, I'll just have a little look

while you have a little bit of dig. Dan, have you seen anything that fancies, tickles your fancy? Well, I have got a list in a document of all the different questions that have been asked, philosophical questions. But Meg, you said you've got something from mailbag.

Well, that's what Clint was in. Yeah, this one's about Hashimoto's disease. Oh, that's nice. A bit boring. Hi, team, this is from Georgina. Hi, Tim, listen to you guys. both podcasts religiously. However, I'm one of those people who hate guests the fart

and absolutely stop listening as soon as I hear the intro. I respect that a lot of people love it. It is just a struggle for me. That's so weird because you get the best part of it. You get the noise of a fart, which I think are always funny, but you don't get any of the smell, being a podcaster. Yeah. That's so funny, eh?

It's like weird that they listen to this podcast, so you think they're your people, but then they can be so opposite to you on something like the topic of farts. It's funny, I Farts just are Even though I don't want them to be They are funny

Aren't they? They are I mean there is And I think Finding Farts funny There is a time and place Yeah right And I think it is

Guess the farts probably the time Well I would argue that no Well why would we haven't Well if I play a guess the fart And no one farts It feels like Missed Because you're just literally farting into a mic

So I feel like There's not much funny about that Whereas if there's like a situation Where you're walking in there's a fart slips out or whatever, then I find it funny. That's when I find fart's funny. When the person that's done it. When an accidental fart, so it embarrasses them.

Yeah, when there's persons embarrassed or it's like, we've recorded those videos where I walk around and pretend to fart. Yeah, so you're deliberately doing it, though. Yeah, but I'm not doing it really. So I think that's why I find it funny because it's not a real fart. I think the fact that you're literally putting your anus up to a microphone and then fucking fluffing into it. Okay, wait, so the reason why it's funny when you're pretending to do it is either because

you're doing it. it or because there is no smell, right? It's still the noise, but without the smell. The smell does ruin it for me. So then therefore, I understand why you would hate it, but I don't understand why a podcaster would hate it because you get the noise. Anyway, Sophie has also messaged us and said,

guys, I'm just catching up on this week's show. I can't tell you how pumped I am for the new Dan's Diary, which we'll have on here for the next couple of weeks. Yeah, we have done a lot about it on the other podcast. We don't really do much Dan's diary in this over thing. us do we? No, but you are going to get an episode once I've run through all of the

Dan Starry of I'm going to read them start to finish. Yeah, in one go. Yeah, so it also goes on to saying this time last year I binged all the previous episodes because I think our old producer Brock put them back to back to back. She said these have been taken off Spotify. Yeah, they might still be on Apple Podcasts but she said they're not there on Spotify anymore. So thanks for bringing the laughs as always. I have got a question that was asked.

on this page that I'm a member of on Facebook and it's philosophical thinkers. Oh, wow. Now this one I think would work. I had to answer questions, actually. I genuinely did. Like what I'd studied at, you know, they only let people in that have been to university.

And so I had to say what I'd studied and said I did communications and they'd let me in. That's the thing. There was a couple of other questions, but I can't remember. Okay. Today on the Overtinkers podcast. We're overthinking. regrets and high points in life.

So this one, I guess I can ask both of you guys, but then we could open it up to the listeners as well if you could get in touch on the podcast fam or on the Overthinkers page on Instagram. Meg, I'll ask you first, and we'll move on to Clint. And you have to answer because there will be a lot of people that go, I don't have any regrets. Okay, well, like, kind of...

What is your biggest regret in life, and what would you say is your best achievement? So basically what's the biggest regret and what's the opposite of that? What's your biggest achievement? Biggest achievement's always an easy one though. Yeah, it's giving birth. You've got to go outside of kids. If you've got three kids, you're like, they're going to be your leisure.

You can't take that away from me. It's not the fact that I've had my children and raised them. It's the fact that I got through my birth and, like, you did it. The reason why you take it away is because I think people should say that or at least 90% of people would say that. So then it's not interesting because we're all going to say our children are the thing we're most proud of. You didn't push your kid out? No, but my kids are.

of my grace achievement. Let's say kids are out of the equation. My grace achievement is giving birth. Yeah, okay, so that's number one. Let's take that out of the equation because that is a boring answer. It's boring, so who cares? You get birth.

Fucking men, honestly. Fuck me, right. No, because no, I know, and not taking anything away from you, I think it is an incredible achievement. It is. But it is also, for this podcast, fucking boring. What? Although I do love hearing people's birth stories,

because they're always different. No, no, no. But I think it is a great achievement. So let's take that out. I think we want to hear other stuff. And that goes for you as well, Colin. Don't see your bloody kids. It's like saying, what's the thing you like about yourself, Meg?

It's like, well, obviously your looks is number one. And so then we are what on achievement? It is not my looks. My favorite thing. Okay. Okay. Biggest achievement. I hate that I'm going first because I want time to think.

But I was really proud when me and my husband got to 30,000 followers on YouTube, which sounds silly, but that was big for me at the time when I was 25 and just kind of built it from nothing. getting this job. Meg was like a real big star. Like you were sort of before YouTube really had it stride. Imagine if you kept going. If you'd keep going, like you could probably be like a

Mrs. Beast. I think we actually I think we actually missed it by a little while. I think if we had gone six months earlier, it's amazing how YouTube was that way. You were one of the early New Zealand early adopters. So that

was pretty cool. Outside of that fuck, a biggest achievement, not my kids. Maybe I mean, I was very proud of getting this job. I'm really proud of, like, working on my painting. I'm really proud of things when I try really harder, and I become better at them because I tried hard. As I've told you guys before,

I don't think I'm naturally talented at anything. You are, but... But I'm not. I try hard at everything I do. You're naturally talented at being a beautiful human being and very kind and supportive to your friends. I fucking try hard at that. Oh, that doesn't come naturally good. No, what's my regret?

What have I done that? I regret. Yeah, there'll be definitely things. Okay. I regret. A few people I've slept with. Oh. I regret. I wish when I lived in Christchurch, I was more mature, and I actually, like, enjoyed my time there, like, went for walks, enjoyed Hague Park, like, we had for coffees.

I feel like I drank, and I went to uni, and I drank. and I drank and I went to uni and I didn't really leave my area and I think it would have been really cool if I actually experience the city. Yeah. I know that sounds probably lame. No, I think that's a really...

Yeah, I just... I mean, I guess that's what you're meant to do when you're 21 though, but I look at it now and I'm like, what a waste of... You could have just really had a great sort of time there. What else if I regreted? I regret not sticking out for myself more.

You only need one. Okay. Okay. The problem with regret is when I think of something I regret, I think then if I had a chance to go back and change it, it would land me somewhere else, so then I can't regret it.

That's why I can't do it. That's exactly what I hear that. Don't think of this butterfly effect situation. Just take it out. Just take it at face value. And you still end up here. Yeah. Like I still end up here regardless.

Because initially I was like, oh, I regret not flatting and not like getting out of home earlier and living with some of the mates. You would still to meet Jamie and have your kids. Yeah. But then I also maybe, I remember my wife talked about this one time

and she got all upset about it where I was like we got together when I was 19 and maybe one of my greatest achievements is somehow going five years together including our engagement where we didn't sleep together looking back I'm not sure I mean I could never do that again so five years

so then do you regret not sleeping around a bit well I regret maybe when I look back and I feel these people when they're younger and they're like 19, 20, 21 you're out flat-ed and getting to know different people and maybe traveling and going on an OE. And I didn't do all that.

I did the sensible thing. I got a girlfriend at 19. We got five years and we got married. Then five years later we had our two kids, bought our house as quickly as we could, mortgaged ourselves and did all the things. So that now I have the things that make my life very comfortable. And I love where I'm at.

And I know if I change it, then you can't have both. But I do look back sometimes and wish that I'd thrown a little more caution to the wind when I was younger. And I don't know who I was trying to impress. But I was like in the church and I was trying to be a good boy and doing all the things I thought I was supposed to do. But you did things, you named all those things there

are things that I'd say most people strive to do. But you just did them a few years younger than most. So I wouldn't have any regrets there. And apart from, like you say, maybe not living your youth and making some mistakes. Yeah. I wish I'd traveled. I'm in the same way as you of like,

I don't want to change it because then I wouldn't be in the job and I wouldn't have my kids. But I never, me and guy, I've never traveled together really. have not done anything of that. Yeah, wife and I, before kids showed up, we did two months. We did a month in Canada and a month in the States. So two months and it was, honestly,

I look back as like one of the real highlights of our life. And it was only two months where his friends of mine had gone overseas and lived in Dubai and been there for a year, two years. Oh, well, I love sleeping with other people. Okay, Dan, what's yours? No. Have we done Clint's highlights? Oh, yeah, highlights.

Well, my greatest achievement, probably going five years without six as a 19 year old. That's how many can do that. Yeah. Okay, yeah. I mean, that is pretty incredible, to be honest. I've been taking kids away from that. And I broke my collarbone during that. And so my wife was like, my wife was showering me.

Well, my girlfriend at the time was showering me because I had my arm in a sling. And it's really hard to reach all the places with just your left hand. Yeah. Obviously, the longer together when you start pushing those boundaries. but I would say we got to if we're doing baseball terms Base 2 Max

I tried to steal base 3 once or twice and I got out before I got there The fact that you got to base 2 and didn't get to base 3 That is one of the most biggest teasers of life And obviously home base is home Home is sex Yeah we know Yeah well you don't need to make man's playing the bases

To you like I don't know Dan's not real sports guys Yeah I don't know Yeah It's it's then first, second bass is hand stuff. Hand stuff. Thirds, face is mouth stuff. Fourth base is six.

Fourth base, yeah. Okay, dad. Yeah, home. I don't think I'd get to me because I thought it would just do you guys. I think for me... Do you want it a different career, you said? Yeah, I think...

No, I think one of my greatest achievements I think would be really giving drama a go. I think I really did give drama a go. I did lots of musicals and stuff. I think part of my regret is not following that further and going overseas and doing it, but I just didn't have the means to do it, so I couldn't.

So I think I really gave it a good crack and didn't quite get there. So that I think would be one of my greatest achievements, take kids out of it. I also think my greatest achievement is meeting my wife Hannah, and I know that that's a bit of a cop-out one. That's a cop-out. No, I don't know, but I'll say this.

I was terrible with dating, and I was very bad at, like, talking to girls and just like, you know, I had no game. And so the fact that I managed to find Hannah and she's the most amazing woman and like in every way, I am very lucky in that regard. And I'd say that's probably my best achievement. My biggest regret, I would say, is completely out of my control. But it's, and this is going to sound really fucking downbuzz.

But it's not having a relationship with my dad that I wish I had growing up. I feel like I just didn't have a. dad when I was a kid. I obviously had a relationship with him but I fucking wish I wish that I had a dad that was there and present and there to support my mum and that I just could look up to and I just never had that. I tried even when I was like 10 years old I'd you know you'd look up to him because he's your dad and but really it was like disappointment after disappointment after disappointment and I think it was that's that's the biggest regret of my life that and I probably couldn't have changed it but I quite often think about it and go,

shit, it would have been nice to have a dad, you know, to there for me. And that's why I think I'm trying really hard with George to do that. Sorry, that's really down with. No, but no, I'm really sorry, Dan, that has been your reality. Is it kind of like the movie, Liar, Liar, where Jim Carrey wants to be... Trust him to bring it back to Jim Carrey. No, but I'm trying to understand it. Is it like Jim Carrey in that movie, he's trying to be a great dad and whatever,

and he keeps promising stuff, but he doesn't. just never delivers or was he not even promising to try and catch up with you in the weekend and scratch the surface you know like it wasn't and and understood at all the reason i think it's front of mind at the moment because he's not well and i'm going through all these things in my head of like what could i have done better is it you know was it my fault not my fault but you know like is there stuff that i did but you then you forget you're a 10 year old you're a kid you're like yeah and that's good you as a parent you've got to take all the responsibility and my beautiful mom did everything on her own.

He did very little towards support her. She made every opportunity for him to be part of our lives. And, you know, she was just just as disappointed when he wouldn't show up or do things, you know. Like, there was this one occasion where he said he was going to take us to Australia. And then the week before he called and said he wasn't doing it. And that, like, literally, like, as a 10-year-old, that was my first overseas trip, it literally was, I still remember it to this day. And so, like, there's just stuff like that where you're just like,

I just wish I had a dad You know Like a supportive dad That would come to like games And you know Why wasn't he there Like have you ever asked him And going

Yo dad What the fuck To be on No And that's again I think another regret Which I have And maybe that's just because

I'm a little bit of a pushover And or maybe it's because I Haven't got the guts to do it But I've never I would love to just have it out with him But also he's in a very frail state now That I don't I couldn't do it

Feels like mean now And so yeah That's kind of my regrets. Yeah. But it's how to, like, yeah, what can you do? Can I add to mine just before we end it? Because I want to, like, if my, you're, the, yeah, that,

fuck, it's so shit about your dad, man. Like, that's so shit hearing that. But it's, but so many people, it's like, unfortunately, there's a lot of people. It doesn't make it easier for you know. To know other people doing it. The most amazing thing is that you, it ends with you. The cycle ends with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does.

I would say, and I don't know if we have any young female listeners and I don't know if we probably shouldn't. So I don't know why are you listening to this, if you are a young female listener. I wish I was less male-focused, male-centric in my life. I very much felt like women were my competition growing up and girls with my competition, even my friends with my competition, and that the best thing I could do was to impress a man

and get their validation. So I would say if I could do anything different, it would back your girls, be with your girls, male-centric, like don't care about putting boys before your friendships and stuff, which I don't think I did, but I think my brain I did. I think I always found their views on me to be more important than a woman's view.

And I've changed so completely. I feel like, I mean, we are, don't we become new humans every seven years, like officially with, like, our bones and ourselves have all renewed by a certain one of the... It's really minor on the way. It must be six and a half years, because I need some new bones. Couldn't get a new bone every show, doesn't it?

But I'm going to do. raised my girls to be less like their validation does not weigh any more heavily than a woman's validation. I think that's not your fault at all. I think that would have just been society. And the pressure. And I think there'll probably be a lot of millennial women

listening to that right now. Probably going, fuck, I was the same. The same, right? God, I just look back and go, Meg, just, yeah. Yeah, and I appreciate. You two actually have given me a, I mean, I know I've always been thankful, but not to the same level as I have been lately with my upbringing

in terms of I just thought, oh yeah, like mom and dad are still together and they work really hard to have what they have and they gave us whatever they could and all the rest of it. But I just thought, oh, that was the norm. And you always look at what other people are doing, whatever. And then when you guys talked about your... Divorced parents. Yeah, and like you're saying, Dan, your relationship with your dad,

and I'm like, oh man, like I just cannot relate to that at all. Like even... Dad sometimes will find out where my football games are. and will come and watch me at 40. Still watch me play. And I think I used to take that until probably about a year ago when we had these conversations.

I used to take that for granted a lot, being like, I thought it was cool, my dad did it, but I didn't think it was overly rare that a dad would do that because that's just what I thought a dad does and should do. But I think I, like, Meg, you're probably the same, but I was like, when I was a cat I didn't want for anything else. Like, yes, maybe I was a bit disappointed

every now and then that dad didn't come to staff or, you know, but my mum more than made up for that. It's more when I become an adult that I've seen people like Clint or people that have got present fathers and gone, fuck, it's such a, you know, like, that is an amazing thing to have a dad that's there for you and that's, you know. My dad was there. There was just the, like, nasty divorce that went down in between it all.

And, you know, you grow up, you're right, Dan, you grow up as an adult and you sit there. And I have a lot of empathy for the situation because they go, I know what it's like when. to me they're just my parents and they've always just been my parents and their job is to be my parents and now as an adult I realize that humans and they've all got their own

micro things going underneath and their own micro traumas or like things that are happening or they're stressed because of this and I know all this now because I've snapped at my own daughter and gone what the fuck like why do you do that and then I go well my parents were just going through it themselves

so there's a lot of empathy for that and I'm yeah I'm not excusing any behaviours but I do sit there and go, interesting. I always thought they were just built for me. You either are a product of what you know, and you become just like them, or you go, I'm going to be nothing like them,

and you do a full 180, and George, your son ends up benefiting from the change. Yeah, he'll probably be sick of me turning up to every, I literally turn up to the opening of a door for him. Isn't that funny? But isn't that funny? I'm sure he won't, but if he does go, fucking hell, dad, you're like, geez, you don't know.

It's amazing that. Yeah, because I know one time my daughter said to me, like, you know, don't yell at me. And I thought, and I, guys, there is no way yelled at her. Like there was, it was a tone. It was like, Daisy, it was like that. She goes, don't yell at me. And I was like, you don't fucking know what yelling at it. Which is so great.

It's like, it's so, it's obviously we're doing something great that she doesn't understand what yelling is. But my God. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, I get sassed out all the time. I know. It's, uh, but, sorry, this has probably been a real downbuzz fucking podcast. Say something funny. Can we get the fart? Come on, Clint.

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