The Edge Breakfast - OVERTHINKERS LIVE!!! the HOOK pre show

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

We brought OVERTHINKERS live to the stage for an epic pre-show celebration of Dan's childhood masterpiece, HOOK, The Musical. What started as a hunt through Dan's mum Julie's attic turned into exposing his cringey diary which is 20 years old. We also do one of our most famous or infamous podcast segments live, this is one you don't want to miss!

This is a podcast from Rover. This is the Overtinkist podcast. Oh my God, look at you people. We've been here all day, practicing. Hello. Hello. Look, should we do a bit of a roll call? You know us, Meg, Clint, Dan.

Let's go along here. What's your name, sir? Jonathan. Jonathan. Hello, Jonathan. He was on the bachelor. Yeah, yeah. He was on the bachelor.

What's your name? Lisa. Lisa. Hello, Lisa. Claire. Claire. I don't think we're going to go through all of them. I actually had a question is that anybody here that doesn't know us

and it's just here broad and long as a friend and they have absolutely no idea what's happening tonight. Do I want to be here? Oh, you're in for a weird night, buddy. Have you ever been to, what's your name by the way? Eli, and have you ever been to theatre before? No. So this is a first.

Okay, and have you ever listened in the morning and know who we are before tonight? Only because I'm a partner. Otherwise, no. She's dragged. Do you even listen to us? No, not read. Do you even listen to the show? Who?

Yeah, no. Brilliant stuff. It's going to be a weird night. Yeah, that's going to be no one. That's going to be so weird for you. Wow. You look also incredible. There's a bit of space up there, didn't sell out, obviously.

It was a lie. Who's travelled the furthest? Really? We spoke to you the other day, didn't we? Yeah. How long did you come up this afternoon? Incredible. Wow. Oh, your mum, she had a hand out.

My mum's flown from Wellington, yes, thank you. Oh, but you don't count, Philippa. Yeah, you'd be here anyway. Yeah, you'd be here anyway. The rest of you were like, no, 30 minutes was far enough. Morimsville? Okay, God, thank you so much, everybody. Even if you've come from Auckland, we really, really appreciate it.

This is a show that I wrote when I was 15 years old, didn't think it would even be a thing. Meg's added her sexual stuff to it. But hoping most of it will go over the children's heads. Yes, yes. But I suppose if we look back at the journey that this has been, it actually really went back three months ago, and then we sat on Hook the Musical

as a bit of a secret for probably two of those months. Yeah, yeah. We went to my mum's attic, didn't we? Yeah. Oh, Julie, where are you, Jules? She's up there. There she is. Yeah.

There's the wonderful Julie. Have you guys heard of Dan's diary before? Yeah. You won't have. So we loved Dan's diary, and we'd done it probably for the first time three years ago, maybe. Showing here.

This is the diary. I know. Ah, ooh. When Dan's mum Julie said she was moving house, she had one of those boxes full of their kids' crap that they were like, okay, do you want this? Because I'm going to move house and I'm going to throw it all away. And Meg goes, what are the chances there might be a Dan's diary in one of Dan's boxes from high school? We need to go and at least look. Yeah. So we went and we did find that diary. We found just the one which, there's a lovely drawing in the front here. Yeah. It says here Nana's coming over and then there's a feces. Yeah. And the other great thing is obviously we found this diary, but what we didn't know that we were going to find was a whole musical that Dan had written

as part of a curriculum thing above and beyond what you were meant to be doing. It's backstage. Should I go get that? Have you got it? Yeah, I'll go get it. Yeah, go get it. Let's see how far the mic goes.

A lot of the times in radio... Can you still hear me? Can you still hear me now? What about now? Yeah. Now? No, now he's cut out. Thanks, Carl.

But they'll, in radio, you'll try and come up with ideas, or you'll be passionate about something again, we should do that one day. Yeah. We never had an idea to do a musical and had we not have found this musical, I don't think we would be here doing this. No. This is actually the one that's been adapted. It's got some AI stuff at the front. That wasn't available in 2005. But yeah, this was the script that Dan wrote, where we had to just do a few things to link it together the other than that.

Oh, look at the Ash Linden Show! Oh, classic. That's our big boss. Classic, he's late. Annoying. It's been amazing. You've missed out really amazing stuff so far.

Yeah, we've done some really cool shit. Inspired stuff. Yeah, right. I actually have the literal final Dan's Diary to read because this is the last one we've ever found and I kept one entry that the boys haven't heard

so I thought I could read that one. Sit back and relax while we dive into Dan's Diary. Carl, everybody up on sound. Yeah. Thank you, Carl. So this is the last ever, like, new entry of Dan Starring ever. Stand here in the spotlight.

Thank you, Dan. Right. The woman with one leg was up singing again into 11 p.m. last night. All she does is make noise, playing bagpipes, singing, yelling at her husband, and sneezing loudly. She's as tone deaf as she is on the bagpipes. Mum, Julie. Mom says she's part of the Navy and performs in the Navy band. They must have been desperate.

Can I mention names, Chris? He's not here. Can we mention Chris? Too late, babe. Chris has to stay back at lunchtime because Mr. Gallia saw him runny's suck my balls on Eric's protractor and twink. Sounds like him. Apparently his protractor is unusable now.

Boo-hoo. Protractors are pointless anyway. I'm sure I have about three at home, and I've never used one of them. Mum and Simon are out tonight because she's taking him to the movies. House to myself. I'm going to make nachos and have a bath.

Wow. I mean, that's still my idea of a good night, night shows in the bath, sometimes at the same time. Do we want to chat to Julie? Because she's featured a lot in Dan's diary. She's going to hate this. Yeah, and I wonder if Julie's had as much fun hearing the trip back down memory lane as we have.

Do you want to come down here or do you want me to come to you? Come on, Jules. Go on. Come down here. Let's see here. Let's go. Julie! Julie!

Julie! Julie, Julie! Hannah's mortified, her worst nightmare. Julie, keep it going. She hasn't even got up yet. Hey, Jill. She's milking her. Sit next to me, Jones.

Oh, come on. Yeah. You want to give her the mic? Yeah, give her the mic. Yeah. Oh, God, these two floats. Honestly, Clint flirts with my mouth. I don't even think he's joking.

I'm liking that. She's saying that she likes the eyelage. She looks better than... Hey, Mike's technique. Oh, sorry. Yeah, Mom likes the island. I might keep it. Yeah.

Although she was telling my sword look very small, so I'm going to use a larger sword when the show starts. She's about the small. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but it's what I do with it. Now, Julie, when I normally read Dan Starries, he didn't do it for this one, but he normally wrote about your cooking, which was usually gluggy pasta bake,

and his words, not mine, and things like meat parcels. They mince parcels? No, yeah, there were pies, but it was just lazy. Now, it was like mince, mince in the middle of me. Solo mum of two, by the way. Yeah, she was a solo mum, but it was just mint and a piece of pastry and then she just folded over. Depressing.

And she put a bit of cheese in there. Now, what was he like, because he comes across as very grumpy in this, as you can see. Like he comes up with a grumpy young boy. Because I'm usually, I'm happy to go lucky. Was he like that to you in real life? Or was he a very different sort of to his diary? No, he wasn't. Yeah.

Yeah. Um, no, he wasn't grumpy. Not really. He was with his brother. Ah yes, but he stole his undies a lot. He used to wear my undies. Yeah, that's right. That's why there was skid marks in them that wasn't me.

He wasn't grumpy. Yuck, that's so disgusting. Oh, yeah. No, but I am concerned about my cooking in his diary. Yeah. It really is not that bad. Really? No.

There was a lot of cherios, Julie. There was a lot of sausage. Oh, rubbish. And a lot of fish pie. A lot of fish pie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I love fish pie. You know one time, this is a true story. My brother, we had fish pie for dinner. And my brother threw up on his plate and then mum went, eat it. Oh, yeah, you did not. And she signed it.

Oh, stop it. Oh, God, that's good. Yeah, so you had no idea Hook the Musical was sitting up in your attic for two. No, no, sorry, for, was it, 20 years? Two decades. That's how I did it. seen it when he was doing it at school?

No, I actually didn't because I've, you know, I knew most of the stuff that was up there, but not that. And when was the last time you saw Dan perform on stage? Because he has, back in the day, but in his words, he was really struggling to be a triple threat. So he could sing and he could act, but he couldn't dance, and that's what held him back. And so unfortunately his career never took off the way he would have liked it to on Broadway. Well, you did say you were doing the moonwalk for us to know. Well, that's not happening.

Oh, the moonwalk! Yeah, it's not happening. It's not happening. I was never very good at dancing, was I? So like Clint says, I can sort of sing, sort of act, but I cannot dance. I remember I had a school teacher who thought I was so uncoordinated that I had a motor neurone disorder. And she sent me to get a cat scan because she thought I had literally had mental illness. Turns out I was fine, I'm just uncoordinated.

I'm diagnosed ADHD. But yeah, it was bad, really bad. I've got two left feet. How many years since you've seen your son on the? stage? A few years, I think the last time was in Le Miz. Yeah, 2020. Very similar, I think, from tonight,

isn't they? Very similar. 2020 lead? Yeah, yeah, very similar. It was in a much bigger theatre than this, so I'm sort of easing back into it. No, like, TAPAC theatre, fantastic. It's this happy place, isn't it? It is, it is. It is. It thrives. All right, let's hear it from our mother, Jules.

Thank you. A wonderful one. Julie, Julie, Julie, Julie. Julie, Julie, Julie, Julie! She's milking it again. Hey, okay. Right. And then our mums are also in the audience.

Hey, mum. And also Meg's mum, who I think was pretty invested in Meg's costume, which... Yes, handmade by my mum. Nobody has seen the costume yet, actually. I haven't even wanted it in for myself, so we don't know what that's going to look like. Here's the thing. The first time Dan will see it is when you guys see it on stage. I have no idea what Meg's going to look like.

So I'm going to have to be so in character, like so in side hook, to be able to, like, keep her straight face when she walks out with sideburns, yeah, bushy eyebrows, I've heard, a bald cap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got a limp, I've seen the limp she does, she looks like she's got gout. I'm working on the lip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So once that's paired with a costume, nightmare. Yeah.

Your mum's hair, Meg, so is your husband and your daughter. How's the merch going, by the way? How'd that sell? Guy? Nobody likes toad bag. Really? Who got a tote bag out of interest? I have you sold some.

How much? Are you going to sell? Are you going to sell half time? Yes. Okay. Back to selling half time if you need any more, if anybody wants merch. Yeah. Okay, so we held auditions.

I'm not sure how many of you were punished on air with those. Dan and I both were forced to audition for Hook, even though secretly I didn't want the role of Peter Pan. But that was before I thought he actually flew. Yeah. So we'll see. if he flies. There is a part in the show where he flies, but it's fucking pathetic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It really is. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you'll see. Yeah, yeah. And obviously, if you didn't hear Meg initially auditioned for the role of Tinkerbell, which her mum made an entire costume for.

Yeah, never got to wear that, unfortunately. But have kept it. And you've landed in a beautiful place with me. Thank you so much. Meg is really the jewel in the hook crown. Right. Yes. Yes.

A bald jewel. Yeah. Who you always meant to play a gay man. Who know? Who knew? And by the way, there is a little bit of that in their homosexuality. I don't think I really wrote, that's a Meg edition. Oh, that's absolutely not true.

That was totally inspired by the songs. All of the songs, none of the lyrics have been changed in the songs. All we've done is like link it together with the narrator and added a few things. But in the songs, there was a lot of love between hook and smith. So I just took it further. Yeah. And so it really felt when we were rehearsing that, all this sexual tension

that was created throughout that it really needed to finish with some sort of crescendo moment that I thought the audience would be begging to see and let's be honest like everybody's here a listener of the show

put your hand up if you do listen on a daily basis so quite a few of you here like most of New Zealand yeah you must have noticed the sexual tension between Meg and I

no offense guy because I can see you there and I know he's going to be jealous me but there is like a tension and obviously we won't act on and my wife's here as well Sorry, Hannah. But there is, I forgot about her.

She's up there. Right there she is. I love you. But there is a certain thing, isn't there? There's nothing. It's something you can't explain. The amount of times Dan has wanted to rehearse the kissing scene is out for game. Because do you think DiCaprio just goes in first take and kisses?

They practice. Now Meg has been playing very hard to get and never once have these two actually kissed in rehearsal. So we're unsure whether the moment will take them And it will happen Don't we just say it's not looking good at To be honest we go for the cheek Yeah, I'll be happy with the cheek kiss Right, let's just vibe it

We will go on the vibes of the audience It's an ad-lib scene anyway, it's an ad-lip scene Who would like to see the kiss? That's not, she was going, yeah! Okay, who doesn't want to see the kiss? Fuck Shit, we'll see, okay But it's not, it has never happened

I just think if you're going to commit, commit. Like a good proper high school 10 second kiss. Well, that's the thing. What you don't know, if you're on the front row, I see there are three seats missing here, but Daniel's a spitter. So to get into character, these are the kind of wet...

His character actually has evolved, and over the four weeks he's gotten spittier and spittier. There's a little bit of it that I'm trying to do. So my son, Tai, if you would like to go grab some ponchos, we'll offer them to the first two rows. To the front row. Yeah.

I love how there's strategically no one here. That's probably wise because I stand right here and sing. Yeah. And there's a lot of spit. A lot of spit. You'll just see it in the spotlight. I'll aim it there. We've realized he runs a pretty wet setup just all the time.

And so he can just spit on demand. So, yeah, Ty, if you'd like to bring those out. And if he'd like a poncho, he'll offer them, I think, to the splash zone. Let's hear it for Ty, everybody. All right. Isn't he fantastic? He purchased some brand new jeans for the night. Alright, and this is, I think we've got to probably get backstage and get ready.

We'll get done. Well, funny you say that. What did you say it? One more time? One more time? What did you just say up the back? Give me the mic. Oh.

I don't have that in my notes. Who said that put their hand up? Oh, it's fucking Ash London. What's your name? Hey, buddy. Can't you come? I'm swearing so much. Guess the fight, what's that smell?

A stinky mystery for us to unveil. Guess the fart. Okay, raise your hand if you want to guess. We should probably explain this a little bit. Look, he has no idea what's going on. Look, we found out of it's a special talent. He can fart on cue. It's been amazing.

It's a very well-loved and well-hated segment that we do. If anybody would like to do a live guess. Yeah. So essentially Clint's going to fart out of his bottom and but you need to guess what the sound, fuck it's so bad sorry, I need to guess

what the sound that his bottom's going to make so put your hand up if you want to have a guess and the winner will be able to win a prize. No one wants to do it. The new guy, okay. The new guy. The new guy.

He's never going to listen to us ever. Okay, give us a fart noise with your mouth. There we go. It's pretty bang on to be honest. Anyone else want to go? Hannah. Just do it.

Geez, loose. Anyone else? Okay, here we go. Do it right into the mic. Oh, he's going to have to change his undies if it goes that way. Okay. Clint. Clint. I can't believe we're doing this.

Can all the pretty girls look away? Hannah, turn around. This is so degrading. Yeah, it is. Now, just keep in mind that he's going to fart into this mic. The narrator called Richie has to talk into it after it. Sorry, Rich. Maybe I'll take the mic sock off.

There we go. Then we can get it right in there, Rich. Okay. Sorry. Hold on. Do you want me to hold it and I'll just... Sorry, Mum. What's happening?

I'm going to get out the photos. Okay, hold on. I might get stayed. We need everybody quiet.