The Edge Breakfast - OVERTHINKERS maths class

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

Welcome to maths class where the logic is completely made up and our calculator apps are clearly broken. We tackle a brutal listener hypothetical: you get $200,000 for every 5kg you instantly put on. Sounds like an easy win, but it took us five solid minutes of screaming, wild recalculations, and total brain meltdowns just to figure out the math. If you want to feel incredibly smart about your own basic arithmetic, you're going to love this absolute trainwreck of an episode.   00:00 – The World Cup of Countries: Down to the final two! 01:03 – Radio's biggest backstage legal battle. 02:02 – Meg’s "suggested" anger management class. 04:05 – Mailbox: A shoutout from Switzerland. 05:01 – Clint maps out his future geriatric soccer career. 07:44 – Maths Class: The weight-gain hypothetical that broke our brains.

This is a podcast from Rover. This is the Overthinkers podcast. Kilda, Kimmer, I'm with you. Let's just see you and hear you. We have quite a bit of mail to get through if you'd like to. Oh, first off, actually, the countries, because we're whittling down. Australia was officially kicked out yesterday. I've had a few people message saying they'd been waiting because Australia I hadn't done already,

but I had forgotten that we hadn't done it. So it is out officially now. I pulled out yesterday. Ecuador, Fiji and Canada left. Who's next to go? It's going to be Canada. Canada. No, Ecuador.

Ecuador. Oh, thank God. That's 18 people in Ecuador. That is not happening. Bots? They're all bots. Not bot. No.

We just did a quick scan. That means if you are in Fiji or Canada and you listen to this podcast, the way to win will be whoever wins on Friday. Well, I guess we'll have to win tomorrow because... Yeah, one's going on. The other one wins a vote of fault. The thing is Fiji, there's a lot of New Zealand tourists

that would just go there and probably be listening to our podcast next to a pool and dinner out. Yeah, I need proof that you are where you are. So you must send a photo to our Overtinkers podcast Instagram page. The first one from that country proving they're there, like with a newspaper or like a photo. Fuck, in the hoops of this. Oh, yeah, it's so he'll have to go out and buy a newspaper.

No, they don't buy newspaper. Just take a photo of where you are right now to prove that you're in Canada. So I'm, well, I guess your address will be. be Canada because I'd have to send the prize. Yeah, we're not sending it to a New Zealand address. Absolutely not. No, fuck no. You can't be here listening from Canada. No, you have to be there.

And then I am in the background working to figure out what that price is. Oh, good on you, me. What's the mail? What's the mail? Here we go. Got to address. You got mail. Kewa team, absolutely love the show. Thank you for always bringing the vibes, but also keeping it real. Niche topic, but we'd love to hear your thoughts

to the whole Kyle and Jackie O fallout and legal battle. I've been keeping up with it as I used to live in Sydney and find it all very interesting but I'd love to hear your thoughts as radio professionals and Dan.

She hasn't said that. In brackets. Because she said as radio professionals. Oh and Dan. Oh fuck you know what I don't want to give you an opinion then. I love hearing whatever you talked that's good, isn't it? I loved hearing whatever you talked about

behind the scenes and back-end production side of things. Anyway, just the thought. Keep on being amazing. That's Alex. I think about more back-end stuff about it. I think the only... Oh, come on, sorry, man. I'm just going to glaze over it and pretend I didn't hear it.

Glaze over the back end. You, bloody wood, you dirty bus. The only different, all the similarities that lie between us and the Kyle and Jackie our show is Meg is quite a bully and we don't talk about it. Behind the scenes, I think she can be quite a horrible person. In fact, she's the only one on the show. Correct me if I'm wrong, Meg, that has had to apologise to people. Oh, yeah, no, this was many years ago.

I did get old boss suggest an anger management course. Clint, have you ever had to do that? No, Daniel. And did you do the anger management course? No, I didn't in the end. I actually can't go into that because it includes names and stuff, but that really was truly a really bizarre situation. And you know what?

It did work that course because she hasn't had better to produce a sentence. Can you tell us true without doing the names? Not really. I don't think so. I feel like if you don't do the story, it makes you look worse. I would rather do that. I don't want to put anybody in it that would make them uncomfortable. I would rather be people sitting there thinking I'm a bitch.

I know what I did and who I am. But I would much rather than bring out dirty stuff that from years ago that they were listening, they'd be... I know, do you know what I mean? I would... Oh, yeah. But it was, it was... Yeah, it was something that was said in a private chat

was shown to that person. And so that was, yeah, not very nice of me, but it was a private conversation that was shared to that person. and then that got escalated quite quickly. They were all bitched, don't we? Oh, at a little bitching private. And do you know what?

The bitching, can I also say? The amount of times I'm bitching was actually me sticking up for somebody else because something had happened and I said I didn't like what they had done and I was sticking up for somebody else and unfortunately it was showed to that person and that person complained. Still we do the anger management course. So I stand by that I was trying to stick up for somebody else in a convoy saying that, yeah, they should have been looked after more. That's crazy. Do people get made to do anger management stuff at work?

I don't know. I mean, I didn't. Was it suggested you should go? It was suggested that it was something that they could look into providing for me. And I remember just being like, I just remember being like, I just think the whole thing came out of a place because I was trying to have somebody, provide something for somebody that I think they had been hard done by. So I was a bit pissed off that I, because I was angry for somebody else, I was the person that was, it doesn't matter. them was a bit far. Yeah, it was a bit far.

Okay, Kyle and Jackie O, look, it's, we don't know any ins. We don't have any, like, secret knowledge of what actually went down. It confuses me as much as anybody else. I still don't understand how they're both saying they didn't get fired or didn't want to be fired, but Jackie doesn't want to talk to him anymore.

But I do know what it feels like to have a relationship with somebody who you put on positivity on ear and offier you can feel quite differently about things. And she kind of said that was what it was like in the end with him, I think. I think it's like bands. You hear it a lot with bands, right? They stay together because it's a gravy train. And it makes a lot of money.

Like the Beatles, I think, with the last few years of there being a band. There was lots of tensions going on, but you stay together for the... Everyone's got a price? Yeah, of course. You can tolerate things if the price is right. And I think Port Jackie was probably maybe, I don't know, from what it sounds like, she was having to put up with a lot of mean stuff being said. Smile and wave, boys.

They made it seem like despite that that they wanted to keep the show going, but it looked like the company saw it as an opportunity to save themselves $20 million a year. Because the people that made those decisions weren't necessarily. They're people who were then being left to operate things. And a lot of people lost their jobs because when you have to find that kind of money, you have to make cuts. It was ridiculous. It was drowning.

It was drowning. It was ridiculous. There's nothing you can do on radio that should earn you that money. No, it's stupid, stupid money. But also, like, fuck, good on them for being able to negotiate a deal like that. Yeah, crazy. To go in and have the balls to ask for it. And then also have the balls to walk away when they didn't get it.

And then they went to kiss where they've been for the last hour we've long. And all of a sudden just took their entire audience with them. And I think people thought that they weren't bigger than the station, but they were. I think radio relationships can be really complicated. and I don't just mean with us, I think in any radio station around the world and around New Zealand, I think it's very complicated because on the front, on the outside, everybody's friends and friendly, because that's your job. That's literally your job is to create chemistry with somebody.

And then behind the scenes, you'd be really surprised at how many shows actually hang out outside of it. We're very lucky. I think we're one of the rare groups, like the three of us, that are genuinely like each other. We can't say that. No. What do you mean? that somebody else is slugin no but they took it from us

well yeah genuine friends yeah we are I think we're genuine friends and I think you know what genuinely I've been where you guys have been in radio shows before where I think you just put it on for the thing and you kind of you have to fake it

yeah and you get to a point you get pretty good at it you like you find the places I'm too old to do that shit now you find the places that you agree on you find the spots it's your job to find the spots that you actually do connect with and then you kind of have to ignore the bits you don't until it's over.

It's tricky to avoid the Trump stuff with Meg but I mean you're sort of... You just put it to a side of the anger. We've learned to sort of look at. And the anger, of course, yes, of course. And you got mail. Another one? Oh, okay, yeah, sure.

Oh, you said you're plenty of mail. I do it. I wanted to move on from the cut stuff. Yeah, clearly, right? Smoke screen it. Well, I just sort of people don't even know Carl and Jack or they're not radio nerds, they're going to be like, what are you guys talking about?

Sorry about that. That's all right. I know so it was important to somebody. Oh, God. Yeah, well, fucking hell. Poor Alex. Yeah, Alex, you got your time, mate. We all waited.

Lucy said, hey guys, just want to say how much I love you. You're mostly Meg. Number one, fan. Podcast is far better, far, the best part of my day. Keep it coming. Anyway, love you Meg. Plus. Did you just want to read that out because of the mostly Meg?

I literally just opened it. Here we go. Here's another one. I've just over. I haven't pre-read it. Hey, team. Hope you're good. Thanks for laughs from Switzerland.

Oh, you're already out of the running, unfortunately. Just listen to podcast number 14. May 14. You mentioned the country still in the competition. You didn't mention Switzerland, but you never mentioned. I was out of the competition. Have I done... Oh, Switzerland got out. Yeah, Switzerland was out. After Belgium before Vietnam. Many things again. By the way, I'd love if you bring back segments you used to do such as the sound effects game.

We've done that already. Oh, and we might have done it off. Like, after they sent that message. Possibly. You might have thought that was... For you? Yeah, the sound effects game was a fun one. Okay. And the last one with mail. Hey, guys, I've been a listener for a long. time. I'm still catching up on last week's podcast, so I'm a little bit late to the party with

the chat about guess the fart. But I genuinely don't know how people could hate it because every time I think it gets funnier, especially when Clint gets camera shy. He does. It's like watching like a doll that's been embarrassed when people are watching and poo. Now you get to see it live as well because obviously it's on the videos. Well, it's like sometimes we have interviews after the podcast recording and it's like, well, can I do that? P.S. I work in an office and every day I listen and watch the podcast or the radio show and I crack up laughing. Half the time I laugh so hard I have tears. Everyone thinks I'm crazy.

PPP, P, P, yes, I've had a really hard time with my mental health recently and every day. I know I can rely on you guys for a laugh. Thank you so much. It really means a lot when people message through like that. That's why we come to work really at the end of the day, isn't it, to take a load off for people? Hell yeah. It's disgusting, mate.

Don't take loads off at work, you sick. God, is that what it took to call me a 6C? You can't even say the word. I know, I think the C word is a bit naughty. Yeah, I want a show. Have you seen the TikTok trend where people are doing that where they're filming the reactions to see if every parent in the world hates that word? Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Yeah, my mom, I could never say that word around my mom. Really? No way, no way. Do we want to talk about life expectancy? We talked about a little bit on the radio show today. But I thought it was really, really interesting. Did you? in terms of how long you can expect to live in New Zealand. And I guess we could do some stats for other places around the world.

Yeah, I wonder what the longest life expectancy is in the world. Pick a country, I'll find out. Mexico. Yeah, Mexico. No way, Mexico. Yeah, I think that. In Mexico, Italy. So just while you're searching that, you have a 70 to 80% chance in New Zealand,

according to the stats website I've found. of living to 80 in New Zealand. Isn't that really incredible? It's a little bit high for women. I think the life expectancy for women is 92 average in New Zealand and men it's 90 on average, but a 70 to 80% chance of reaching the age of 80, which is really good odds.

And we got talking about this because of the Kiwi Sabre and what are the chances you actually being able to use your Kiwi Saver. Very high. I wonder if that number would go down for men if you told me if it was a single man or somebody that didn't have a wife. Like, how much is the wife looking after his diet and exercise? Don't you think?

Like, well, how much is wife going, right? Get out for a walk, John. Honestly, you're not having baked beans on toast again. Get out for a walk. You know, like, I wonder how much of it is that their wives are keeping them alive. How, Meg, in your opinion, pick an age where you think Clinton and I will pass. You, I think you're going to get real old and grumpy. 96.

Jesus. Jesus, mate. And actually, Clint, I think you're going to get to fucking 100 and you're still going to look hot somehow. Don't you think he'd make it to 100? Of course he does. And he'd be walking around. He's beautiful. Nah, I reckon he'll go to like

79. No bullshit. He'll be robbed. And he'll just have some, like people go, God, he have a heart attack. I thought he was fit as anything. Live fast, I young. Yeah, and he'll just sort of drop dead

on a ball or something. On a ball? You'll be kicking it around with your grandkids or something. Just take it too far and just head butt a ball or something. Or try and do, he'll be like, I'm still young and do a bungee jump. Yeah, I think that's what he'll do. Because he's so, he thinks he's doing 20-year-old things now and he's in his 40s.

Yeah, yeah. You know, I think he'll be doing 30-year-old things when he's in the 70s. Yeah, yeah. And so I think that'll be the downfall. I don't think my health will get better of me in my mid-70s. You're healthy. My old man's 70 next month. And he's still water skis.

He's still single. I know, I've seen him do it. My mom's fit as a fiddle too. Yeah, so is my mum. Although, Dad, if you keep any of those. What's wrong with you? Stop fucking hanging on my mum. You were using your mum's fit?

And I was like, yeah. We have spoken about your mom having quite a bit of sexual energy. Can we please change the subject? She is genuinely one of the most sexual. By the way, Mexico, not on the top 10. Monaco, number one. Oh, wow. San Marino, two, Hong Kong, Japan, Macau, Switzerland.

And then you got Italy, Iceland. Australia is actually number 10 for the highest life expectancy of the world. So higher than us. Yeah. So, yeah, there's... Monaco, what are they doing in Monaco? They've just been rich, aren't they? Monaco is very rich.

You have to be very rich to live in Monaco. That's where all the Formula One drivers live because there's no tax. So you can have millions of dollars and they're not taking a cent of it. How does the government make money? It's a principality. So it just means that they don't run on the tax system, on a tax system. It's a very wealthy place. So people spend money through the casinos there.

And so that's where they make a lot of the money. So you could go through the, I mean, he has to be very rich to live there because the apartment's like you can get a one-bedroom apartment for like $3 million, $3 million, euros. But like, you just have to be rich to live. Wow, okay, so Monaco boasted the highest life expectancy, roughly 89.5 years because they have

a potent mix of immense wealth, premier medical systems, and a heart-healthy Mediterranean diet. Wow. And low stress, low-stress, because they've got so much money. True, New Zealand ranks between 15th and 20th. Oh, it's pretty good, though. Yeah, it is pretty good. And I think we have a lot of, sadly, in New Zealand, a lot of lower socio-economic groups

a lot of Fijian Samo and people that come here that don't have a high life expectancy sadly for different reasons and so maybe that brings the life expectancy down. Very multi-cultural New Zealand day. We are very multicultural and I think that's a good thing. But maybe that's the reason why it brings us down a little bit. But yeah, so I just thought that was very, very interesting. Oh, fuck, was it?

He's in a move. Why, if you want to break something? Meg and I brought shit. I'm agreeing with you. No, you're not. You're being seetious. I say, yeah, I'm in trouble. You say what you thought was interesting.

I said, yeah, what's? You said he was a sick cunt. Oh, yeah, all you've done is sit there with your legs up on the desk. That's what he's doing, just fucking firing little shots across it us, you little wanker. You know what? You are a cunt.

Now, we've all said it. We've done three. Yeah, yeah, what a show? That's gone. I have one more question for us. Do we all show us tomorrow? No, no. Leave it to Clinton.

He should have a question. Today on the Overtinkers podcast. Why Dan's a little bitch? How long you got? We've already been doing this for 16 minutes. All right, we'll do you all, which is me? My question. All right, I'm going to end up now.

I believe it was. Okay, you get, oh, I just have a remember it. My husband sent it to me. You get $200,000 for every five KGs that you put on. How much money you take it and how much weighting you get it. wouldn't do it, I reckon. Yeah, you could just put it on, then take it off. You don't have to, like...

How much you put it on me? It's not getting off, boy. How much you're putting on then? $200,000 for 5Ks. I thought it was per kilo. No, for 5Ks, $200,000. So, 5Ks is a lot to put on. Yeah, because that's...

400,000... Unless you put it on, you... Putting it on a muscle would even be hard. So it'd have to be like... Now, the thing is, then, I'm trying to work out how much I could get... No, no, no, it's... It's fat. How much I could get.

You're not putting on my job. You're not putting on myself. I actually genuinely think I couldn't do it. You couldn't put on 5Ks? Like it's real, I eat, like, honestly, like a fat pig. Like, you say I had a pie and a donut and a hot, like a maca. That pisses me off. On the way home.

I eat beans for breakfast and I can look at something and put on weight. I think I might take 800 grand. So it's 20 kilos. 20 kilos you'd put on. So I'd be almost 110. And then. I could quit my job and I'd just spend all year trying to work it off. You could do.

You might mess with your metabolism a little bit. True. Does your metabolism get affected when you put on weight? Well, if you put on weight and lose it again, it's just that your body restabilizes apparently at a new weight. So it's just harder to stay at that weight once you lose it. Because you're at this weight now and you're kind of sitting there. I wouldn't want to do it in the football season because it would slow me down.

And I'm trying to lose weight to get quicker, not slower. You're still doing football even when you've quit your job and you're rich? Also, yeah, oh yeah, still play football. It's like one of my top three things. Don't. Don't. He would. He would be heavy, wouldn't he?

110 KGs is quite heavy. Maybe I'd just be, if I still had some pace, if you got on my way, just drop the shoulder. Or I could start playing league. I think, yeah, $200,000 is not enough for me. You could take $200,000 for five kilos. $200,000 for five kilos. But I don't even think I could put. I can put it on. I genuinely don't think I could put it on.

I feel like a pig eating all that stuff. No, you don't have to eat it all. You just instantly become five kilos heavier, don't you? Actually, putting it on would be the fun part. Oh, okay, okay. If it's just instantly put it on then it's different. Yeah, okay, let's say that. Let's say you don't have to be able to 150 then. So how much money are you taking?

Oh, you're supposed to do the math to me? I don't know what he weighs. Oh, you know, that's true. Well, I weigh like late 80s, so let's say 90. Okay, so that's 60 kilos at $5. sorry, five kilos every 200,000. Go. Go, me? Go on, Dan.

No, you go. No, you go. I want you to try it. Okay, so that's 10 kilos. And you want to get to 150? Okay, so 60 kilos and then times 200,000 is 1.2 million. What am I doing? You just put a number out of thin air then, didn't you?

To make you, and hope, she was just hoping that it would be the right one. It would be a Hail Mary. No, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. No, because we're just making a little down. You told me, I told you guys I want to stop looking dumb. And you said, they don't say dumb things. So I'm steppied out.

I've got the answer, so I know. Good. I'll whisper it in your edge as her, just to double check. No, you've got it wrong. Go ahead. What did you say? I'm not telling. You're stupid.

You're stupid. Oh, bugger. Come on. Okay, let's use her both our brains. Now, me remember this dog. Honestly, Clint, I'm confused about the question is. So you said... So I'm putting on 60 KGs.

Yeah, but you said five kilos is 200,000. So how much money is 60 kilos? Come on. 400. No. So, okay. Five kilos is... Okay, so if I'm getting five kilos.

So it's double. So 12 times 5. 1.2. Isn't it? What? 120,000. No, 12 times 5. 120.

1 million 200. 2.2. 2 times 5 is 50. 60,000. No, I'm confused. Wait, but when you're trying to work out, 60,000. He's got less. This is shocking me, bad.

Me, 5. kilos is 200,000. Okay. So we need 60. No, we need 60 times 200, okay. Yeah. Is that what we need? Yeah, 60 times 200.

Okay, so 60. Six times two is what? Six times two. Six times two. I genuinely think this is fucking so bad. It's 12. This is my favorite part in the pond so far. Six times two is 12.

120. That's why I said, doesn't. No, you're taking this way. 200,000. Per 5KGs. So it's going to be at least a million. I don't know what the question is. I said 1.2 million.

Apparently that's wrong. Okay. So how much would it take for us to get to a million? Five KGs? Producer Carl. Can I just say in the time that you guys would be trying to work this out, producer Brady is gone, take a piss and come back and he walk. Are they still fucking going?

What you have not done there is help us in any way except give us some stupid information about our fucking producer Brady. So fight in his bowel movements. Shut the fuck up. We're trying to do some maths here. Okay. And you would have put on, wait, I've got, honestly, I'm... Okay, so let's take it back to grassroots.

I still don't know the question. So, it's five KGs you get 200. Yes. Yes. 10 KGs is 400. I don't know what the question. So 400, and then we just need to add $500,000 to that. I still don't even...

Wait, wait, why is it 400? You almost had $1,000. Okay, so we got... And then we just add up in the room. No, no, shush me, shut up. Because you're not stressing me out and not doing me. You're doing me. You're doing it.

So, let me. just think for a minute, just let me fucking think. Okay. So I've got $400,000 and that gets me to 100 KGs. I said I could get to 150. Oh! Shut up!

Shut up! 600,000? No! 800,000? Times five. Okay, hold on, I'm going to get a calculator out. No! No! Okay, I'm going to use a pen. So, 400,

100, 100, 100. 8 million. 8 million? 6 million. No, no. 8 times 5. 8.000 times 5. I don't know what the question is.

Guys, we're not, I was going to give you the answer. We're not going until you work it out. So I've got... It's like you're in prison. And the only way you get lit it out is when you work out this math's equation. 800,000. I still don't know what the question. 1.2 million.

1.6 million. 1. No, 2 million. 2.4 million. Final answer? Yeah. Yeah, me. Yeah, man.

Wow. Do you know how I got here? No. Yeah, that was honestly, we need to edit that out. That was shocking. No, God. I'm so sorry to anybody that had to listen to that. So for anyone else still working out, and I think there should be no one,

if it's five kilos for 200,000, you're just got to work out how many lots of five kilos fit into 60 kilos? How many is that? It's like, 60 divided... Huh? 12. There's 12 lots of 5. Yeah, 12 lots of 5. So then you times 12 by 200,000.

Right. Because every lot of 5 is 12. Which is 2.4. Yeah, you go. You know what? Honestly, I genuinely think we've lost listeners there. There's no one that's listening to that going,

fucking hell. These are people I want to listen to. This podcast is making people feel smarter. People like that. We've got doctors and, like, physiotherapists. Oh, I don't think they listen to this podcast. There's no way. That's a shocker, man.

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