The Edge Breakfast - OVERTHINKERS reverse sh*t talking

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

We tried to do something genuinely nice for once by talking behind people's backs in the absolute best way possible, but of course, it completely devolved into chaos. Clint revealed a truly wild mental trick he uses to stop himself from finding hot people attractive, and things got incredibly real when Dan started rinsing the entire New Zealand media industry. Plus, we check in on our Canadian listeners, and Meg ends up in actual tears over a wholesome friendship story. You are not ready for how fast this rolls down the hill!  

This is a podcast from Rover. This is the Overthinkers podcast. That shouldn't be fucking insulting. That shouldn't be like, shock horror. Dan would rather have sex with a woman than Clint. Like, how I'm glad. But it's you though. I'd rather like I'd say I'd be a nightmare.

Honestly, I think we'd be God, like bum to go. So I only caught the end, the tail end of that conversation. We just finished our radio show. I'm not going to do the podcast. And Meg just, I was like, I feel like I'm being trolled or you're going to get me later on. Because we do. We set each other up and we lift them up. And then once we accept the combo, that's where we drop them.

Yeah. Meg just was like, you're so attractive, Clint. Just out of the blue. Yeah, yeah, he just took his cap off. Should have ugly hair. Doesn't pisses me off. Like I was waiting for him to have ugly hat here. I haven't had a hat on today.

My hair's worse off than his. It's just shocking. It's brilliant. Just what he needs. More fucking ego. Yeah. So then I said I'd rather, yeah, anyway. Anyway, actually it kind of leads into what I want to do today.

You guys might shit on this idea, but I thought it was quite cute. I did see it on a different podcast. Even if Clint was shitting on it, he'd look hot doing it probably. Oh, that helps. No, if I think about them shitting, it does help. I do that sometimes. Think about people shitting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, if someone's quite hot,

and then you're like, oh, I shouldn't be looking at them like that. I'm married, just picture them shitting, and you go, oh, that's gone. How often do you picture people shitting? That's hilarious, Chris. I have done that. That's so funny. The fact that you'd have to do that to stop yourself from, like, thinking about them.

I don't even ever have to do that But there are people that will go out of their way to think of someone sexually So surely there are people like me that go out of their way to think of someone non-sexual Who's the last person you looked at And had to do that Imagine them shitting

Oh gosh, so long ago Oh fuck off I reckon it was recently I reckon it could have been He went out to the kitchen before And he saw someone in there going home to the kitchen And if you see what I see like if you can see through my eyes

all the girls are all just taking shits in the work kitchen that'd be so funny coffee machine like in the movie episode we're like holy shit Daddy how all these women taking shits in the kitchen

he's like a really bad that you know that movie I see dead people but he's just like I see people shitting it's the only way in the five just really going about their business I see a woman shitting so funny

okay okay so the idea I had today was talking behind people's backs but it's talking nice behind people's backs. I thought we could talk about... Oh, I do this to my children. I thought we could talk about some people that we know in the industry, but we talk about nice things, so I'll bring up some names. No, because Dad hates it.

No, but just as a side, no, you should do this with your kids. When I know my daughter is in a air shop, which is fucking always, because she's always listening. You just go, oh, I was really proud of Cameron and what she did with blah, blah, blah the other day. My wife said, oh, did she? And I'm like, yeah. And I know my daughter's sitting there listening. and it's really great for them to hear people talk nicely about them behind their back, inverted commas.

So we're talking behind people's backs, but it's nice things. So people are there. Nothing nice to say. Well, then you can pass. So what? You were saying talking about other people in the industry? Like Rodge from the Rock. Yeah, it's people that we would know that maybe people would have interest in knowing that we like them or not.

Oh. Okay. Well, we'll leave it a go and see how it goes. I don't know anyone in the industry. Jono. Jono. Yeah, Johnno. Jono from Johno and Ben.

Johno. Okay, I... Go on. Well, I'll say this. Most of the stuff I know in radio I learnt from Johnna. Because I used to be producer. Oh, that's mean.

So most of the shit, the fucking mistakes you're making are blaming on Johnho. That can't be this fault. You've said to me before that he's almost like a father figure. He is a... Yeah, well...

That's so nice. He's not very absent father because we've very rarely talk. Not another one. Yeah, another one. I've already got two of them. No, no. I think, yeah, that's what I'd say about him.

And you know what, Jono, he's a lovely man. He is lovely, isn't he? Lovely man. Every family orientator, you never see him very much on social media because he's just a normal guy that likes to hang out with his family. He's always very lovely. It always has time for me. You know, there's not one of those guys that,

you know if you saw someone a supermarket or somewhere, and then you kind of pretend you don't see them. And you know that are pretending they don't see you, and then inevitably you have to bump into each other. And you're like, oh, hey man, like, and you're like, yeah, you fucking saw me. John would never do that. would always straight away, just come straight up,

be like, hey man, how's it going? Very, very, very talented man, too. I'd say he's salt to the earth to me. He is, salt to the earth. And very good at radio. Like I'd say, there'd be a lot of broadcasters in New Zealand that say they're radio, you know, good at radio. He'd be up there with Hosking in terms of talent for radio.

I agree. I agree. And I have never actually heard, hand on heart, a single bad word said about him. He's the hard thing, though. I mean, if you're an overseas listener, and you're not sure who John was. You might know John and Ben.

They had a TV show together. They do a radio show now with Megan. Imagine what we've done here is we've blown smoke up John O's ass, and then we've left Ben and Megan, potentially. I'm not sure we've mixed on this and moved on. You imagine if we heard another radio show talking about how fucking amazing Dan was and then moved on when we thought it was going to be able to. Okay, well, let's set the rule.

There's only one person we could talk about from each show. Okay, that's good because I've got nice things to say about Ben, but I can't. And same with Megan as well. Because you just made a rule. Yeah. No, I see what you mean. Damn, you just try to do one fucking nice thing. And it turns into...

This is not many people that I'd speak bad about. There is a few. I'd say, I would speak bad about. Okay, well, let's open it up. There's not that many. Five. You have reminded me that we do have overseas listeners, which, by the way, I will announce the winner of the country's competition as well. Oh, yeah, I'll know. Let's do some people that we have met.

Dua Leap, we talked about her this morning. I found her very vanilla and boring. I don't know you have to say nice things. Oh, sorry, yes. Can you not be honest? Yeah, you can be honest. I thought she seemed very down to earth for somebody who was such a superstar. I've had about three or four interviews with her, and every single time she seemed very herself, very chill.

Yeah, and I remember we'd learnt, Meg and I had learnt new rules on a fucking kazoo. Why, God knows. Anyway, we probably didn't have any musical ability, and we'd learn the song. Anyway, the PR or the publicist or whatever, people were like, she's not singing. Don't ask you to sing. Dillieper is not singing so we're like, fine, whatever. Because we was hoping that she might join in. Anyway, when we started doing

the song, all of a sudden, Dill was just buying right into it. She started singing in a way she went. We didn't ask you to. She just did it. I don't know if the publicist got annoyed or whatever, but it was like, yeah, she was just a good sport. She was a good sort. Okay. Ed Sharon. Can't say I know much of. I've only interviewed him

once or twice, but he seemed lovely. And we did a game with him called shocking questions, where you guys hook me up to a machine that would electrocute me if Ed Sharon chose not to answer a question. We asked him the most evasive questions invasive questions ever,

thinking that he's not going to answer at least half of them. Ha ha, Clint gets electrocuted. He literally threw the last question just to shock me because he answered everything. He said he was an open book and nothing was off limits. He seems like a nice guy, doesn't he? But you would be nice if you're that rich. Really? No, no. Because look at

other people. Look at Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. They are the most, the just people who would. They're not nice. Well, then they're assholes. Imagine what they'd be like if they were poor. Maybe, Dan, maybe there's a threshold. It's like, as you get richer, you get nicer, nicer, and then it keeps going

and as you continue to get richer, you become an asshole because everything you want, you can have. God, it'd be lovely. I'd be lovely. Part of the main reason I'm usually grumpy is because I'm pissed off that I don't have much money. Really? Yeah, I'll be like, oh, fuck. You've got tons of money. You just don't get to spend it.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you have to get rich. You don't spend money. It's sort of a... I just want enough money that I don't have to work. Like that much money.

So, like, you can go, oh, I might just travel. I'll go do this. Or I just stay at home or go catch up with a mate. And it's like, you don't have to be like crazy rich. Just rich enough that you're never going, shit, how am I going to pay for this next thing? That's never in stream, right? But we have an easy job.

We do, like, this job is piss easy, really, at the end of the day. We're really just ourselves. And we just come in here and sort of talk shit. The stuff that stresses me, out is the outside stuff. If we just had to do the radio show, it would be the best show in the world. It's the other shit that, you know, like,

oh, you've got to do this, you got to do that. Piss off, let me do the fucking radio show. It's the content creation that's exhausting as well, like finding four hours of stuff every day. You finish a show and you go, cool, what's next? And you're like, I don't know, we just finished this show. I wish I did radio in the 90s when radio was like, there was no social media aspect to it.

It was just, you just turned out and did the radio show and it was, you know, that's all you needed to do. almost, I was going to say the 2000s because that's when there were influences so radio people got sent everything I don't care of that, but it was also the peak height of nudity on the radio. Yeah, I've never been more naked in a job

than those first few years. Yeah, so no, thank you. I've never received a PR pack that I've gone, oh, love this. Really? No. Oh no, Dan, you're lying. No, like we got a really good one recently for a movie I won't name, but it had like a projector in it like a pair of shoes, all this, like on paper, great. I've never used any of it.

What? It's all sitting in the cupboard. Didn't you get a free remote control car? Yeah, but that's because they reached out and asked if I wanted it. It wasn't like a one where we were just given it. Gotcha. You know, like sometimes we'll just get given stuff. I'm like, I don't need any of the shit.

Well, you just crushed your name off the PR list. Good, I don't want it. If I receive another fucking Acoyer candle, genuinely, I will throw it through the window. I've got so many Acoya candles Send it my way Can I have that cool projector Because I was about to buy one

And I'd if you're just sitting in a coming Thanks bro It's made from like It's made in China but you can have it That's all good Got any candles left No My husband won a raffle on the weekend

It's got a projector in it Oh really Yeah honestly if I had a dollar For every time I received a projector From a movie company How much money would you have Probably four bucks Wow that's a lot though

What you think about it That's a lot Okay let's get into the winner Oh yes You got mail. Is that all the bitching we're going to do? I thought we're going to get into, like, radio people. Circle drink for Jono.

I feel like you didn't want to. Did you guys want to? No, I thought we just did a circle drink for Jono and moved on. I can go back then. I think we need to a couple more. Hey, do it. Hey, Jono. See you guys.

Okay, okay. Susie Cato. Let's talk behind her back. Okay, Susie Cato. I mean, I only met her a couple of times. But from what I've seen, lovely. She is the person. She's like, she is.

She's exactly what. you think she is. But then she wouldn't be a potty, like, I almost want her to be a bit of a bit behind the scenes. I'd love to drink with her. I'd love to drink with her, and after she puts away, like, a bottle of wine and then see how she goes. Because you're right.

I don't know if it's because she has to put on this, like, I don't know this, like image all the time, because that's how we know her and that's how we grew up knowing her, but she is just always that person. It must be exhausting to be that all the time, but she's always lovely. But then maybe she's not putting on a character. Maybe that literally is her.

Because it would be exhausting if you were having to play this character but no one's happy all the time. She's always happy. She seems that way. Yeah, she's only, I've done some events with her, and she seems to genuinely love people and love kids. And I, I, there's, she's a light. She's a light in children's lives.

Anyone who's dedicated their life to, like, making children laugh and smiles. You couldn't, you couldn't hate kids doing that. All right, let's talk about Bree's behind Bree's back. Bree Toma. Yeah. Can't stand the woman. Again, Don, Freudian's lip. Dan, you.

used me to be saying nice things. Oh shit. Okay. They say when you can't say anything nice, don't say anything nice. No, she's lovely. Again, I don't really know her. You don't know very very well. The times that we've met, she's unbelievably lovely. And very kind and very funny.

And just like, I'm almost like, why would you even want to talk to me, Bree? You know, you're cool. You're too cool. I can't say enough nice things about breathing would actually do justice to how I feel about it. So I feel like if I do, I'll cheapen it. He's almost getting choked up about it. Yeah, he's like, you look like you were teary-eyed.

Even though, you know, when she was looking for a sperm donor, she didn't ask me. Have you hit her up about that? Yeah. Who did they get? They must do it. They must do it. They must be like... Well, she wrote about it in a book, which is probably the only reason why I would ever speak about it publicly.

But they went to... As far as the book goes... went to like an awfully dog park and there was another couple there and they were asking if when they got to know them if they would ever consider being a sperm donor and they came back and said

would you ever consider being an egg donor for us so they ended up helping them have a child and the gay couple helped Bree end up having a child I feel like Bree and I have quite a bit in common I got talking to her once at a thing at Clint's house and her dad is into motorsport my dad was into motorsport

I love motorsport she like we just had like a lot of things in common I was like oh my God we're like quite similar in our upbringings but yeah that's all she's Are you just trying to get compliments from Clint because he said he can't say enough nice words about well I feel like he went in

You're quite similar you're like well I'm quite similar to work I like him all I'm actually I would say I'm a clone I am the male version of her Yeah I think of any it's me anyway Maybe that's why we get along so well too, Dan.

Yeah, it's probably it, right? Okay, let's do one more person in the industry. Let's do... Vaughn. Vaughn. I don't know Vaughn. Unfortunately, they left the same time that I arrived at the edge. Yeah, actually, same.

They ended up... I think they left a year before I started on breakfast at the edge. And the only time I really spent some proper time with Vaughn... You're at the cruise. Yeah, I was on the Disney cruise. That's right. Yeah. And then we like hit it off and we're hanging out.

And Shadei, his wife was catching up with my wife. And we were all like, let's all like hang out. And we should go on to each other's houses. You know, sometimes. I never do you the invite, but. Oh, did you guys not? I mean, he will always stop and like, make time and have a conversation in chat. And I guess we've got kids kind of around similar ages.

So we're in that similar life stage. She seemed to have a lot more in common. He seems like a great dad from, you know, again. I'm like who I don't really know for it. But I had more dealings with Fletch and Haley because they used to go to the gym that I was at. Sometimes we'd be pumping a bit of tin next to which I'm. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think I've spoken more than three words to any of them, unfortunately. They don't like you, apparently, I've heard. Oh, fuck up. They wouldn't know me enough to like me or not, surely. No, she wouldn't. When I were pushing some tin together, and I said, you like me? She's like, nah, I'm standing out. I said, same. I remember drinking whiskey with one and he goes, thank, fuck.

You know what? It's not here, right? You know what? I don't know. He didn't say your name, but I kind of picked up that to what he was talking about. I went into similar conversation. Anyway. Okay, great.

This is the Overfings podcast. Right, I thought it was going to. Right, okay, let's go to a winner. I thought Meg was going to throw her own name out last, and that was the point of the game. Oh, no, it was actually genuinely just to talk behind people's backs. Oh, well. All the things that we had ready to go, wasted? I've got to, can we do like a negative one tomorrow?

because I've got some bitching to do about some people there's at least two or three people that are very well known in the media industry that I could fucking go to town on because I've had dealings with that I can't fucking stand because they're selfish fucking narcissistic pricks fucking some of the biggest scum of the earth

people I've ever met work in this industry when Dan gets angry about something you don't even need to say anything to antagonise him just leaving him in his own thoughts and he gets going I'd love to just blow wide open I don't even think it's public knowledge, but I would fucking bring them down. Would you?

Oh, gorgeous. Can I quickly ask, when would be the situation that that would happen? Is there ever a day that you would just be like, fuck it, I'm going to blow this case? Well, I don't think there is. No, to be honest, there's only... None of them are related to me in any way. So, like, it'd be like, why the fuck is he bringing that out about that? Right.

And I've never worked with any of them, but the stuff I've seen and heard. Oh, there's some fucking... scum, there's some rot. There's some deep rot. Yeah, deep rot in the industry. Yeah, but then it's kind of like... Not just this industry, I'm just talking about the media in general. There's some stuff you hear, you know.

I like about... Not so much the radio, I think they're... But then it's kind of like, then for what? Like, I don't know if it does. It makes you feel better. True. Then you're just... Again, like, yeah, you just, you know...

But there's some people that you see you know, there's some people we have not... Would, like, you'd see and go, oh, you're still walking free. You are walking free? Your mum would have taught you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. All our mum's taught us that. Yeah, unfortunately.

No, my mum said, no, say it. Just not on a podcast. So we had Canada drawn out of our competition of countries, which I am still get the T-shirt, still getting made, by the way. But the first person from Canada to contact us was, can I even really play celebration music and stuff I can't even really play Max

Max Now that seems like a name that wouldn't be in Switzerland This is Max's message Well he's not, he's in Canada He's in Canada Hello I'm reaching out for the chance to win a prize The prize package I live in Quebec City Canada

And to prove it I've included a beautiful photo Of the Plains of Abram With Celine Dion performed an incredible show in 2008 Yeah well Selina's from Quebec You can also spot the iconic a Chateau Trontera in the background. Thank you for your podcast.

It has been great. Helping me practice my English. Oh, my God. Max, Max, Max. Well, English is Meg's second language as well. It's my second language. So if you, yeah, I'm not very good at it. Wait, so what was his first, what was his first language?

French, I'm guessing. French, Quebec, yeah, he's a French, French Canada. Huh. So, so Max, I will, actually, I'm going to message you right now, Max, I think you know. You are. Isn't that crazy? So you're like Canadian, speaking French. Mm.

listening to a New Zealand podcast. Yeah, but Canadian, a lot of people in Canada speak French. French Canadian, yeah. But I find that's just such a strange thing because I just completely like forget about it. Kind of like French Polynesia. Yes, New Caledonia. Yeah. But I do have some, it's amazing how many people in Canada listen.

So I'm going to shout out your messages. Thank you so much for entering. What makes look like? Max looks like a white man. Does he? Short here? Longish brown here. Oh, longish brown I haven't pictured to be short.

Okay, Rebecca. She said, hi, Clemette. I didn't realize it to me to send the message here. I hope they still counts. It did count, but Max got on first. Thank you for lots of love from Canada. Love listening to you. This is a great one. I live in Canada. Caps? Yep. Photos of all of her details on.

I'm guessing quite private information. And then she said, here's my mail today. And then hours later, you haven't replied. They were drunk messages. I'm too scared to read them. Oh no, that was from 2003, so I think he deleted them. So there's some messages from 2003. We haven't been able to see, Brooke. Don't worry about it.

2003? Instagram wasn't even a thing. It might have said them. He said 2003, but it might mean to edge breakfast. But no, sorry, you didn't win, but yes, you have sent me all your details in your mail. Thank you for that. Brooke. I love you listening.

Cassandra, I live in Canada. I'm probably too late, but I do live in Point Claire, Quebec. Lance, do I win? He's in Canada, and he sent a beautiful photo as well. Leslie, hi guys, Canadian here. Who won the contest? Can't wait to hear about Hook. Jenna lives in Chiliwack, Canada.

Chiliwack! Oh, yes, the famous city. Thank you. And Renee, I believe... Oh no, Renee just had a question. What's her question? Just wondering, when do the Oversinkers podcast start? I've noticed that it seems to start with episodes

with Ash taking place of Meg when I discovered it. Are there earlier ones? I think she wants to see more of Ash. You can listen to the... I should pre-read that one. You should go listen to the... Where can I get the podcast with Ash and them, not me? Actually, that's another name we didn't discuss.

What do you think about Ash? Fuck! Meg. I love her. Everyone knows I love Ash. Look, I fucking fought and fought for that, for her to come and sit in the seat when I was on Matleave. You guys know I did. There was another name that was up that you guys know of better, and you were quite keen for that person.

You didn't know Ash very well at the time. That's why it's not like you knew Ash and didn't want to. You just neither of you knew her. And I was like, boys, you have to trust me, because I think you thought. was because I was a little bit self-conscious of like who was going to take my seat and I was worried about it. I was like, no, I'm fucking putting the best person in

to the point that it's going to make me look bad. Because Ash worked here and the other person didn't. So we were like, there's less chance of somebody snaking your job if they work here. Because it's happened in the industry where some women have gone away on maternity leave and they've come back not to their job. Yeah, so it does happen.

So the anxiety is real. And I knew having to sit in the seat was to me not dangerous in the way that I thought she would snake me but dangerous in the way that I thought people would fall in love with her, which they did. That's why she's now on the drive show. Yeah, well she can't.

Yeah, true. Yeah. Are we going to have a bitch about other people? Who do you want to bitch about? Are you mean next episode? No, he's opening his notes. No, no, no, no. Does Meg have to throw out the name?

You just do it. Do quickfire and I'll say one word. Okay, let's do that. Let's do that. Quick fire and we can only say one word and then we'll finish. Really? Yeah.

Okay, okay, okay. But it could be negative or positive. Oh, look at this. It's getting much more exciting. Okay, I'm going to get some names up. Let's start off with... Carl Thompson. Rodge.

Okay. He's our producer. Rudge from the Rock. Um... Come on, quick fire you see it. Oh, okay, okay. I was trying to think of the word that means... Lovely.

That means you've just been locked in and being great for ages. It's not stoic, not... Like, what's their word? One word. Yeah. Stoic. Sure. He's lovely. PJ.

Fabulous Funny I was gonna I'll do fun Polyglesby Legend Yeah iconic Kind

Kee Lee Kind Oh wow That woman is Torreo Beautiful Sam Wallace Muscular

Muscular Muscular Rich Yeah He must be I can I say Sponsored Post for him

two words, because everything he does seems to get to be sponsored. Actually, if I could do it again, I would go bare ass. That's two words, I guess. Oh, do you know who's the good one, Tony Street? Legend. Ike. Sam just put up a video today of his day in the life, but as part of his day in the life, he put showering in there,

which most of us do, so I wasn't shocked by that, but being part of it. And he does his ass shot as he gets out, but he doesn't reference it. Tony Street, can I say the word gossip? Gossip. Yeah, because I feel like she's like you, Meg. She loves a good goss. Like me and her... Tony's tree. I've only met her a couple of times,

and every time we've got on like a house on fire. So she's a laugh, eh? Little goss. Yeah, she's funny. She's a great laugh. She's a great laugh. Okay, that's Tony. Let's do Hillary Barry. I can't use iconic every time, but Queen,

love Hillary. I could take a leave, Hillary Barry. That's good. She said this to you. I don't know you, Dan. I've just never had a deal with Hillary Barry that's been a positive one. No, I don't know really well enough to. be able to say on either side. Well, yeah, I can say enough for both of us.

It'd be like asking me what fucking Dwayne the Rock Johnson's like. She's an incredible broadcaster, but I've never, yeah, I've never sort of... Yeah, I adore that woman. Okay, let's go to... Oh, what about Okay, Chris Key? From Horaki.

Funny. Yeah, to be honest, again, don't know I'm very well, but I want to be his friend. He seems like a funny guy. Yeah, I've been, I've known Chris for many, many, many years now. I go genuine. When I've caught up with him, he seems quite genuine and, you know, Can I say moustache? Mustache. He's very funny.

Funny is a good one. And can I say a very loyal friend. I will love that man forever. If you're going to maybe crong for what he did for Guy when Guy was sick. Oh, I was sorry. Was Guy sick? When Guy had his mental health stuff. Chrisky was the most amazing friend to him.

So I love that man forever for that. It's so emotional. God, you cry at the drop of a hair. I know. I just think. What if he cheated on his missus? Oh no. Fuck him.

Okay, but you just need to love him forever. Oh man, one cheat, you're dead. Yeah, Lucy, we all know Lucy. Overtinkers. Rover, music, radio, podcasts.