The Edge Breakfast - OVERTHINKERS Wearing your kids' teeth as earrings

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

We’re downing McDonald’s pickle juice for "medical reasons" and it’s every bit as chaotic as it sounds. Things take a real turn when Dan opens up about his solo mum, leading to a heartfelt moment that’ll actually make you tear up. We wrap it all up with a bizarre deep dive into what life would be like if we all had video-game stats floating above our heads. 01:30 – Tasting the McDonald’s Pickle Juice Relief Tonic 07:45 – Is pickle juice the secret to period pain relief? 07:45 – Dan’s "male equivalent" of a period: The first pube 10:00 – Would you keep your kid's teeth as jewellery? 12:30 – Clint’s emotional message and the power of a good dad 15:00 – Shout out to the solo parents (and the "effectively solo" ones) 18:15 – The Hypothetical: What life stat do you want to see above people's heads? 20:45 – Dan’s obsession with a "bathroom urgency" meter

This is a podcast from Rover. This is the Overthinkers podcast. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good night. Good, Megan Dan. If you can see us right now on the podcast, Dan on his phone. Always. What's this for? We're on the podcast.

Oh, is that a shit story about that? This job never stopped. God, I've always, people are pulling me everywhere. I'm constantly being pulled by someone. Oh, lucky you. Yeah. Shouldn't be doing anything. You guys always take it to the gutter, don't you?

Gosh, you better broadcasters than that, Clint. Can we make a pact? Can we be good enough today that we don't have to make any edits? Because I don't think we've had a video podcast the last two days, because when I have to edit the audio... When has he been an edit? I haven't asked for an edit lately? Yesterday, I think you did.

No, I didn't. I had to edit some stuff yesterday. Stop pulling me. And then, yeah, and then it's all out of sync with the video. So I know people like Liam, when they're supposed to be working, I sit in there watching the video feed, have been getting upset.

Well, this might be a good one to watch because we've actually been sent something this isn't paid even though I'm pretty sure it should be. Maccas have dropped... It's called Super Sub Relief Tonic. Apparently the Auckland FC have been having it for cramps. It's McDonald's pickle juice. I love pickles.

I love McDonald's pickles. Yeah, I love McDonald's pickles. I think I'm going to like this. Dan, not so sure you're going to. We've got a little bit of leech. I'm not doing it. If you guys like it, then drink it. It's not for me.

Give it a go. I'm sorry. I've come across very negative on this, but I just... Yeah. Wait, if anything, Dan's... Maybe, do you need another? Oh, yeah, yay! Do you want to...

Clint to pull you off? No, I just... I'd rather do. You guys love pickle juice, so drink it. Holy shit, Clint, it smells just like a McDonald's pickle. Oh, yum. Same time? Yeah.

Off you go. Hey, you fucking me. Holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy soul. Salty sour. What's it to do with? Like, why? I just said it. I just...

Literally just said, it's been used by Auckland FC for when the game is on the line and the league start to cramp. I've actually got very crampy carbs. Why? You don't play football? No, I did a lot of stairs on the weekend. Oh, God, imagine if she had to play a game of football. She'd be on the floor, wouldn't you? No, there's no scares. I used to, I wasn't sick and leaving at high school.

Well, yeah? Then I did my knee in. Can you please just have some? I just don't. I know I won't like it. I know, but that's why we want you to do it. Relief tonic. Is it just more like Pinklejuice or if they put anything else with it?

I quite like it. I wonder if I should be saving it for Saturday's game. I hate pickle. Pickles might like one of my things I don't like. Hmm. I'd say to go... Well, then you'll hate this. I'd say to go tuna, any type of like old canned fish, onion, and then pickle.

Okay, well it says, gick and water, vinegar, salt flavour, firming agent. Three, two, one, down the hatch. Oh, I get it in. Oh, the tiniest sip. Oh, it's actually not bad. It's quite healthy. Oh When you have a lot of it though

It's not like I wouldn't drink it as a refreshing You'd only drink it because it's stopped It doesn't do that you wouldn't bother We've got producer Brady Brady Do you want to come on I've got another little bottle Do you want to come and you can introduce The Brady Bunch

That's what we should call him the Brady Bunch Come on Come on Brady Now come and have a little sip You can have that fresh one I also hate pickles as well Okay so because you're the producer You have to scull it

No Yeah I've almost finished mine I love his no was like no question my god, it sounds so strong. Give it a good... I'll give it a good swag. Yeah, go on. Off you go. It's a good one.

It's actually not too bad. It's not as bad as you think it would be. Much saltier than you would think, though. Is there a burger in the box? No. I was hoping there would be, but there's not. Cram recovery, although it isn't helping make cramps right now. Is it good for periods?

I think it's... Yep. I think it's definitely watered down pickle juice because I feel like... Whenever I take it, I never get period pay. Great. Yeah, that is good. Oh, there we go. She was asking a room of dudes

if it's good for her menstrual cycle. You should know you've got a daughter. Yeah. Yeah, but she's too young for that. Yeah, but you're going to have to start, there's going to be at some point. You're going to have to start having those conversations. Clintsey, may as well start now.

Yeah, Daisy knows all about my period already. Yeah, Cam, even at school, we'll give kids like a gift pack full of all the goodies and stuff. So Cam's really excited about getting hers. She should keep. the excitement because there's obviously a lot of shame around it. It's scared shame because it can

be painful. I'm already trying to tell Daisy that like she knows when I have my period. She sees it sometimes. We're in the bathroom. It sounds gross but it is actually a natural normal thing. I love to. I see some blood on me when we're like bathing together. And not in the bath. I don't share it with her.

I was going to say, oh, that's not a fun game. Oh, the water is going pink. I have a shower. We can see each other at the same time and she, anyway. She's curious. girl. I was like, well, I'm not going to hide what it is. She's going to get it one day. And I just say, when you get it one day, she's like, it's only for big mums, isn't it? I don't know what my way it's got to do with it, but

and I say, yes, it's something. You all couldn't get it. No, skinny mums get it too. And I just said, you know, maybe maybe the time, when you get it will go to a hotel and it's like a time to like really relax and look after yourself and pamper yourself and I'm just trying to like change that. You know what my daughter likes about it?

Is that she associates a period with not being a little girl anymore and being like a lady, like a woman. So I think she's really desperate to like grow up and be older. Which is, yeah. So then when she gets her, then she'd be like, I'm a lady, I'm a woman now.

Yeah. So that's the excitement. I guess the men's version of that is the only thing I can remember is to one of the day I got my first pub. And I remember that quite vividly. I remember. Did you get to go to a hotel?

What the fuck do you mean? The same equivalent of a girl getting her period That she will get... No, Dan, you've got... Until... Until... Pissy, it's until you go...

We have to bleed once a month until we're 60 and you're saying it's the same as getting your first pub. Well, that's the male equivalent, isn't it? Unfortunately, we don't have to deal with it. I don't stand by it. No.

I won't... Yeah, but if you're having to reach, I would say... I'd say puberty, bulls dropping wet dreams. There's lots of things boys go through. Oh, but you don't remember necessarily there. But you remember your office pub! I do.

I remember calling my mum and she came and looked at my first pub Well just one all by itself I can't remember Apparently you brought it up I can't remember the details of fucking how many strands it was Clint Well you said it was in the first pubs So it should be one strand

You're the shuddest person to have on a debate team Because damn forgets what he said to him Because damn forgets what he said to him I remember what I remember the detail of it I remember going oh fuck I'm a man And I remember How old?

Yeah Oh 14. I can't remember. I don't know. First pub at 14. No, he must have got in a pub earlier than 14. Surely, Jesus.

I was in that house on Wellington Street. And I remember, I lived in the garage. So, and I remember seeing it in the garage and then calling mum and she came down. Still attached to you? Yeah, I didn't pull it out and go here it is, no, that's the last. I nurtured that pub.

And then gone, that's my pub. And not necessarily. Yeah, normally it's between the 9th and 11th birthday. but 14 could be... Are you Meg was Googling it? Nine-in-a-le with your late bloomer. Got on your Meg laughing at a late pubescent boy. It's okay.

Okay, but you're... I'm not. I am sorry. Yeah, that is a shame. Someone else is a late bloomer. Yeah, you're right. And it's good on you. It's good on you. Did you frame it?

What'd your mum do with it? I think it's still on there. Oh, you did? Yeah, I think it's still there. They drop out. Do they? You've got the same puberty as since you're 14. It'd be great.

No, mom hasn't got to run next. in a little locket I imagine I was that in there she's like I just my son's first pew Now mum would get like flowers though and dry them

and then press them them into a frame I thought maybe your mum might have done so yeah she's teeth I think I'm going to keep my kids' teeth have you got your kids' teeth that looks crazy

have you got a tooth around your neck that you look clinically insane I'll make little earrings and come to work honestly if you have two little teeth earrings I'm not being your friend anymore oh bugger I won't then

She's like, oh, I bet not there. Yeah, mum kept our first hair cut in our, like, photo album. Yeah, first hair cuts there and like a little bag attached and whatever. Me too. It would be funny if I was like, Dan's first pew. Just this little brown curie here. Imagine if we found that, it was mum's addict. I'm fucking I wouldn't, I wouldn't recover.

I would have it away. I actually think that you would wear that around your neck. I would have a little lock at me. Yeah, you'd have to have it in a little. viral and he's put mine in there as well. So it's just guy, guy, new two boys. Guy and dad's his pubs. And we just need one from you, Clint.

Problem is he's had as all is removed. Yeah, true, lays it off. Yeah, you put it with water so it magnifies the... Yeah, like they do when you go panning for gold. Right. Yeah, and they put in a little canister and fill up water. We eat at this one. We can't.

We can't hear about that. I sort of regret what I've said. I just say, thank you. for all the messages that I got yesterday after we talked about, Meg and I sort of opened up a little bit about our parents growing up. And there was a lot of lovely messages

that I got privately on my Instagram and a couple of people that reached out on the show Instagram as well. I didn't do it as like a poor me type situation. We were just talking about it and I probably shouldn't have said as much as I did, to be honest. Man, you really don't know what you're going to get with this podcast. I forgot that was what we talked about yesterday.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So thank you for the love. And you know what? Clint sent me a lovely message last night as well. Very kind message Which I won't read out on here But he was a very lovely message That made me get a little tear in my eye

When he said it I just thought more about like What Dan had said And I was thinking Obviously like you said your mum Played the role of both And that was amazing And I guess she had to

And she did that very very well But I started thinking about How different my life would be If my dad wasn't in it And it's just And I don't want to focus on it Too much Because I don't want you to feel even worse

About growing up without one But it's just, it was such a huge part of my life and has shaped me massively into the person I am. So I was like, if that wasn't present in my life, I just don't know the type of person that I would be now. Did you send one to your dad too then? No, I haven't. Yeah, I said it to Clint yesterday,

and I said it. I don't think I thought about it at all when I was out. I wasn't like, oh, God, I wish my dad was around. It's only when you become an adult and you see great dads. Clint's dad, Clint himself, you know, like many of the dads that we know on the people that have called the show. There's a real powerful thing. And it's same, I guess, if you don't have a mother growing up, it's the same situation, you know. You miss out on that half of a parent.

And, yeah, I'm not the only one that's that. And I know that I just feel seen if you are one of those people. Yeah, my dad's having a sense, actually, in July. So we're going through, like, trying to organise bits and pieces. because I know he won't want to do anything otherwise. So hopefully I'll hang on to and remember this feeling and sort of craft something into words to share maybe it is. Hopefully.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just given me a very different perspective in terms of how blessed and lucky I was to have that when I just thought that was what everyone really, or most people had. And you know what else it makes you realize? On the flip side, it also makes you realize, and this is a shout out to all the single parents out there that are doing it alone.

You know, whether it be a dad that the mum's not, around or vice versa, like my mum that was a solo mum growing up. It is a bloody hard job raising kids by yourself. We have to sometimes do it for like a day. Yeah. And we always talk about how hard it is.

It is really, really hard. And like, I just don't know how my mum did it. I don't know. And let alone make us kids feel comfortable that we didn't even want for anything. You know? Like not once did I ever go, oh shit, we're stuffed here. When I was doing Dancing with the Stars, my charity was refresh, which was, and they still do like a Saturday meetup, but it's a single parent family community group.

I think it was just when we, my wife and I were raising our two kids and I just thought, imagine how, because it's very difficult raising like two young kids. And I'm like, imagine doing this on your own. How like unbelievably hard that would be. So I got really like passionate about trying to do stuff to support like solo moms or solo dads. you're trying to do the role of two when you naturally will be a better dad than you're ever going to be a mum or you're going to be a better mum

if you're a mum then you are going to be trying to be a dad to your kids as well you know it's really hard to be both here's a little story my mum told me once about being a solo mum she said that because when I was at school my brother was still at home so she was like looking after him and she took her, she did a nanny job

where she would like have kids at her house at our house and she'd look after them for the day as well as my brother. And one day she was driving to pick me up from school and she had an old car because we didn't have any money and her car broke down. This was before mobile phones. She was like 20, 30 minutes walk from my school.

And so she had to get out of the car with two toddlers and one pram and walk all the way from the broken down car to the school to get me. And I was standing outside the school, bawling my eyes out because mum hadn't turned up. There was no phones. And so just like simple things that you don't think about is just ten times.

when you're doing it by yourself. And so I think that's just one little thing, like one little story that I'd imagine there'd be solo moms and dads out there that have to deal with that every day. And it's moms that are, maybe are still married, but that maybe the husband is way for work or whatever.

Or even, can I, can I, yeah, shout at the ones that are like solo moms even though you're not? Like, the husband's still there. You guys are still married, he's not a way for work, but you do all of it. I think you also, oh God, it must be,

It's so hard because you don't get to almost have that. You don't get to be like, and not that it's something you want to have, but you don't get to be like, I'm not doing it on my own because everyone's like, well, you've got Rob. It's like, no, Rob's fucking useless. Rob doesn't do anything. Fucking Rob. You know what I mean?

No, there must be many relationships out there like that. People are solo parents even though they're not. And there may be a situation where Rob's the one doing all the work. Exactly. Yeah. And Sarah's the fucking useless, bitch. Oh, no, don't tell you. Did you ever do like the Big Brother program?

Did your mum ever put you in one of those? No, no, no. You'd have like a male figure in your life there. But the thing is I don't think I ever, you know, like I had enough men in my life, like my uncle and like all that sort of stuff that were there. So I'd, but nothing beats just having your dad there, you know? Yeah, of course. And I think, yeah, that's kind of the, but again, I'd never wanted for anything back then.

It was more perspective. What's the worry when you said at the start of this chat where you were like, uh, probably said too much of I'm being honest? I would think, and I know you've got to come to kind of peace with where you're at in your life, you can't be resenting things all the time. But I think I'd be like, no, fair enough. If I called you on being a shitty dad because you were being a shitty dad, then I'm not going to apologize for that.

Yeah, that was my reality because you didn't muck in and do the work. Yeah. So then what's the feeling when you go, I probably shouldn't have said, I'm going to hurt feelings or whatever. Like, is that it? Well, no, I think it's just, I don't want to. I mean, there's things that happen in life and people make bad decisions. And I think, you know, a lot of dads that have not been there for their kids, they've also got a life, you know.

And I think my dad's had a life. He's made some really bad decisions. And there's a reason while we're here, but I don't want to go into details. Yeah, and you don't want to kick somebody when they're down. Yeah, true. They've already got nothing. Yeah. You know, I have.

something that we could if you wanted to pivot. This is going to be an interesting look I've been waiting for a pivot for ten minutes. Well I didn't know yet. Do we want to pit the fucking music off so we can Okay, let's pivot. Move on, pivot.

We've got a question. Okay, go, hit it. Thank God for that, me. Jesus. Jesus, wow. What's you're going to say? No, it's an idea that if you were in a world and there was a stat above everybody's head And it was always the same statistic.

What would you want the statistic to be? So it could be how many times they've cheated on somebody or I guess the empathy level or what they're like. Yeah, they've got one step. What would you want to know about every single person in the world walking around what would be easier for you? Can't be different for different people. No, no.

It has to be the same statistic for everybody. If I have it for you, I have to have it for me? Yes. Everybody is the same statistic. I think it would be for me as easy. answer if they like you or not. Right, so just a yes or no. Yeah, so it's like 100% like, so it looks like house, but it could say me,

70%. So I go, oh shit, so there's 30% of her that doesn't like me. I would be so, I wouldn't want to leave the house. Yeah, that's what I mean. No, I'd love it. Even when you're hanging out, even at like a football game with your teammates. You see, going down, because you're conversations too long. Or you're like hanging out with people, you turn around, you go, he only likes me 56, that guy likes me 65.

And you start getting in your head going, I thought we got along great. Like, why doesn't he like me? and I think you would start just, oh, the anxiety I think that would give someone who doesn't even suffer from anxiety would be crazy. You'd like it then? Yeah, I think I'd like it.

I think I would, it would obviously be a shock of say, for instance, I came to work and it was the first day of me having it and then it said Meg 40% above her. And I'd go, fuck, I thought it would be a little bit higher than that. It'd be really hard to do a show if you did a break it. I obviously knew I fucked up and I saw her I just go,

ding, ding, ding. What about? What about? The challenge. of you being able to get with that person? That would be cleansed, surely. But the thing is that, that would be useless because I'm married now? Or is that when I...

It's so nice to know that people are into you? I think I can tell, usually. Oh, you reckon? Yeah. It'd be interesting, do you know, what would be interesting, though? If you were walking around, you're like, huh, 1% of that person wants to fuck me. Like, that would be, you know, that would be interesting. I think I'd constantly be walking around and say that.

You were about one of the dudes in the office, and you're like, 96. Yes, that's what I mean, it would be like, what's it's married with a wife. Whoa. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I think probably I would choose some, I don't know how you could describe it, but empathy of some sorts or like. Maybe it's just a nice person meter.

So if they're a really nice person, they're at 100%. And if they're at 20, then you just don't waste your time with people like that. So it's not anything about you. The number is more about the individual. And if you're going to pitch an idea to somebody at work and you realize a non-ice pitch,

you just, I'll find somebody else. Yeah, it would just cut through a lot of red tape, I think of people that are like trying to figure out I feel I would just cut time for trying to figure out who is actually nice and who's not. Or even if it was like your compatibility as friends. Oh, that's a good one.

That's a really good one, Clint. Because then you go, if you're at a bar and they go, oh, this is my mate, blah, blah, blah, and it's come up 16%. Dad and I have zero percent for everyone, but Clint is 100 for everyone out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then you know if you should invest more time

and energy into somebody knowing that you are compatible and would get along. Because you've got to say morals and stuff. Yeah, true. You're not going to hang out And then a month later you find out they're a huge Trump supporter. Yeah, I love that. That could be a good idea.

I'm just trying to think of other stuff that you could use. Could it be a lie of me to where whenever you're talking to someone, it's above them and you can tell them how truthful they're being? Yep. Because that could be really useless in certain situations. Like, say, for instance, you were a detective or something, that's like gold. Or if you're a boss. Yeah.

And like you were trying to, you know. Having an argument with your partner, anything like that. You can tell how truthful they're being. I like that. nervous? What if it's a nervousness meter? So you're a detective and if you start questioning and they start getting nervous, you know they're guilty. So that's kind of like your true false thing.

But also if you're chatting to girls and they start getting really nervous, then you know that they're into you. Or they're just really repulsed by you. And they're like, you make it as nervous. You don't get nervous around people that you don't like. Clipwood misconstru it. They're like really nervous. And they're like really creeped out by them and he just keep pushing.

Women get nervous around me and they're scared of, yes. Oh. Okay. So they make. Maybe that doesn't. I'm trying to think of one thing you can get where it will benefit you in multiple situations. I still think compatibility is good because you want a compatible boss,

you want a compatible partner, a compatible friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I guess if you are single, then you don't waste your time going up to buy a drink for somebody. Just because she's hot, you're not compatible at all. 18%. What about how busting they are to go to the toilet? So you go out to them and be like,

Jesus, who's harder? There's like a real power play. And then I'd be like, fuck, maybe that was me. Oh, my God. Dan just goes and says watering plants and stuff in front of them all if they're at 98%. It's such a useless, but of course you'd choose that.

I'd go up to visit your world and be like, Dad, really? You chose the urine one? Like if I went out there and Meg's at 90% and it's a bow, I'd go, Jesus, someone's farted out here. Who's cropped us? And then I'd watch Meg's face, and she'd be like guilty because you wouldn't know. That is crazy.

That is such a waste. It's such a great skill that we've all been given in Dan's cake. That's good. You can discuss it more. maybe you can message us one. We've obviously forgotten. Yeah.

Yeah. Overthink is feedback on Instagram and then we can read some of them out because we'll be like, oh my God, that is way better. Yeah. Cool. I'm going to overthink that for the rest of today now. Yeah. I don't think I've nailed a perfect one.

But I know we're ending the podcast, but my God, did I overthink the thing that I was most proud of and the thing that I regretted? I had such different answers by the end of the day. Oh, you're still thinking. Good to know that I make you think. You do? Yeah, yeah. I was thinking about that the rest of the day.

Oh, good on you. And Clint. Anyway, see you about.