The Entrepreneur DNA - From Jail to Jesus: Hope, Fire, and Resilience | Travis Hearn | EP 47

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

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If you don't have hope, man, you don't have anything. Hope, I need hope. Hope for my marriage, hope for my child, hope for this sickness, man. Somebody's diagnosed with cancer. I need hope. Diagnosed with a life threatening, I need hope. My wife, I found out she cheated on me. I need some hope.

My husband, I need hope. My child, what like... So the book really is, my hope is that it provides hope. That's right. And it's real life stories that are absolutely insane and hard to believe because they're not normal. I mean, they are miraculous. What is up my entrepreneur DNA family?

I am here with a very, very special guest. His name is Travis Hearn. He goes by Pastor Trav. He runs an organization with tens of thousands of individuals. He is the key with tens of thousands of individuals. He is the key consigulary, if you will, to the athletes and the nine-figure entrepreneurs, the 10-figure entrepreneurs. This man is dynamic at every sense of the word.

Pastor Trav, what's up, bro? Hey, man, that's a great intro. Thank you for having me today. Well, you're a great human, so let's get into it. Listen, you are the go-to guy for a lot of athletes. I mean, the names you can drop and the teams that you can drop and what you've been able to accomplish at this phase of your life is incredible. But I know it wasn't always that way. Let's just get everyone to the point of you've been able to build something. You have an organization, Impact Church there in Scottsdale, Arizona, very familiar. Our close friend, Cody Sperber goes there.

But I wanna know about how you've been able to build this entire, what I would almost call like an empire, right? You are the go-to coach for entrepreneurs, you are the go-to coach for athletes, and then you make a massive impact on tens of thousands of individuals as a pastor. But let's start at the beginning. How did it all start for you?

Yeah, I think it's a great question to start with because I'm probably the black sheep of church and pastors. I'm not, I didn't grow up in church. I grew up around church and kind of like, I always say surrounded, but not really surrendered. My life was broken families, broken home. My mother never had a father, raised in Southern California. And then, you know, then her mother was raped and murdered

when my mom was 13 years old. Then three years later, that moved my mother to Arizona to live with her only, her grandmother, her only family member. Three years later, she's 16, she has me. So that's the start of me. Like it's rough before it's rough, right? And so for me, I grew up like with drug addicts and alcoholism and I didn't grow up in church.

And so the end of my senior year in high school, I all through high school partied and drank and smoked and basically tried to smoke whatever you could smoke. I smoke a banana peel, I think one time just to see if something would happen. Like that's my history. That's who I am. And I got a DUI. I was beyond drunk, got put in jail. And the same night, I say it like this, like I went from jail to Jesus. And so to answer the question, I never really thought about pastoring a church. I was an athlete, I played basketball, football, baseball,

quarterback, point guard, catcher, like kind of the leader of all the sports and excelled in sports as a child. And man, I needed something, man. I was that guy. Look like you got it together on the outside I just, I needed something, man. I was that guy. It looked like you got it together on the outside. Like, look at this dude, man. He's, you know, all state this and that and blah, blah, blah.

And then it was like inside, I'm like, dude, I'm broken. And I think the nature of the story, I mean, I ended up on the front page, you know, Hearn arrested for DUI, like that's who I am. Yeah, and so, so I just found something, man. I felt like I found something that meant so much to me. For me, it was God. And I just said, man, I want to give this to the world. And so that story, hey, you became a Christian, you're not weren't a Christian, like, like, DUI, you

know, you got arrested, jailed to Jesus, like, and then everybody would be like, hey, will you come share your story at youth group, at school, at churches, at camps, whatever. You gave me shivers thinking about how your mom's mom and then your mom having you at 16, you just go, I have a story. It's nothing like not as dark as that is, frankly, right? Everyone has a story. Yes.

But you know, one thing you said that actually triggers this next coming question, which is, do you see with all the counseling that you do for the high figure earners in entrepreneurship to the top tier professional sports, whether it's football and baseball and everyone that you counsel, do you see to some extent some of the highest level

performers have some level of a story underneath it? No question. I mean, absolutely no question. Yeah. And I think for me, so I started, I started working with pro athletes 23 years ago. Yeah. From the NFL to MLB to NBA still do.

Our church started as a Bible study for the Arizona Cardinals. That was the beginning in a house, like a few athletes and then eventually open it up to the public. Our Bible study was called Impact Pro Athletes and eventually opened it to the world and its impact church. But yeah, I mean, you know, I'll say this,

23 years ago when I started, I probably like anybody else, I'm starstruck. Like 23 years ago, I'm walking down the hallway of the Phoenix Suns Arena, you know, we were playing the Lakers and I'm like dude, that's Kobe. That's Shaq Like those are some big names. Yeah, and Shaq's a big dude, you know And such a good dude, but and then within man Maybe the way it works in the NBA is we have chapel before every game. So both teams are invited One at one hour. Yeah, so say your sons like your sons, you'll stay

whatever. So the teams come together. There's a room every every team does it every league does it then FL does it NBA does it MLB does it. Which how about that? That's interesting. Because we think of NBA and MLB and NFL is like athletes, WNBA and they are. That's a business. Oh, it's a business. Church is a business. And church is a business, no doubt. I mean, there's a stewardship of money and finances and growth and things that

you have to employment. You have to pay people and you have to make money to pay people. Of course. I mean, you can't have the growth that you guys had without revenue, right? I mean, it just doesn't work. No doubt, no doubt. And being smart about it and being, you know, but going back to your question, you know, for me, the starstruck went away in a hurry because one day after

chapel this well-known athlete, you know, he stayed around and he started to cry. I mean, bro, we didn't play basketball in 45 minutes. It's almost game time and he, you know, big seven-footer, he's crying and he's like, bro, I need help. Yeah. And I'm like, what's going on? And he's like, hey man, man, I'm married, I got killed. I got another woman pregnant while I was on the road.

And I'm like, he's like, can you help? And I'm like, he said this, I don't know what to do. And I'm thinking, I know what you shouldn't have done. You already did. You shouldn't have done her. Yeah, that's right. But you know, that's the thing is like, whether it's celebrities, whether it's big earners, whatever, they're people man.

And you cut somebody, they bleed. They hurt. They make mistakes. We all do. We all make mistakes. And I mean I think that's where I come from is just like I'm still making mistakes every single day. But I feel like I've found some answers in life and so try to give them away. That's right. Well, speaking of a game in a way, let's get to what I'm excited about. You have a book coming out dude. Yeah. This is going to be fire. Yes. Pun intended. Let's talk about the book. Right. Well the book is titled The Fire is for You and it really comes from, I wasn't going to write a book but I went through hell and back. And so two years ago, November 14th of 2022, this is the craziest story. I'm in great health, this is two years ago.

I had a stroke, I had a brain aneurysm, a brain bleed. And to give you the background, our church had just, we started getting into the music space. So impact worship, impact music and releasing songs. And the first song we ever released to the world, it was called, He is the Miracle. That was on Friday, November 11th of 22. It's called, He is the Miracle.

This is crazy. I mean, this is crazy, crazy, next level crazy. Is we released this song, we've never done it before. First song we wrote, recorded, produced, goes onto all music platforms, right? So on Sunday, to theme with that, I preached a sermon titled, He Is The Miracle. And I opened my remarks with,

hey, I believe God still does modern day miracles. Like, he's still the God of the Bible. And on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, our song started to chart on the iTunes charts, which is crazy. We didn't expect that. And we've never done this before, right? So it charts and it gets into the top 100 and then it gets into the top 75, 50, 10.

Dude, it went all the way to number one. So on Sunday, it went all the way to number one. We screenshot it. I mean, we didn't win a Grammy or like a, you know. But that was pretty cool, man. First time we ever did something and then Monday I Needed the very miracle that I just preached about and that we sang about and so I was

We stopped by the church Man, I don't know if you're ready for this because this is this is wild this this already getting shivers Like stories while I tell people there's people that you meet that give you that feeling, right? Whether it's you're dating someone or whatever the case. But like right now, Pastor Trav, like I've known him all of 30 minutes. Yeah. Bro, he's already giving like this is the real dude. If you don't know, get his book when this drops because I'm getting shivers already

from all this stuff that's going on. Go ahead. Yeah, this is crazy. I take no credit. This is just, this is whether you believe in God or don't believe in God, I'm not here to talk about that other than I do. And I believe this was a God thing. So we go from, we pick up my daughter, my wife and I at school

at 3 p.m. from school. We go to the church office and church, it's a big place. We're in my office and me and my daughter, Jazzy, she's 12 at the time, we're gonna go to the grocery store, to Target actually, and Natalie's gonna stay, my wife, and do some work. And I had a handful of grapes and I started dropping like a grape every now and then. I'm like, that's weird, I'm dropping grapes. But that morning we did cold plunges and I thought maybe you were ice., I'm dropping grapes. But that morning we did cold plunges. And I saw, so I just thought something residual from that. I'm like, that's weird.

So dude, we drive, I'm having a stroke. I have no idea. We drive to Target and I text my wife when we get there and I said, hey, I've dropped like five grapes. That's weird. She calls me, dude, in an absolute panic. Travis, please stay in your car. I'm coming to get you.

I'm coming to get you. And I'm like, babe, I'm dropping grapes. Like I'm good. My head didn't hurt. My vision was good. My face wasn't droopy, my speech. And she goes, read back what you sent me. Cause I said, I'm dropping grapes.

She goes, read back what you sent me. And it was more like I'm draping crops. But I didn't know that, right? So I'm reading back and she's like, I'm coming to get you. So she comes and picks me up, she takes me to the house and she's begging me to call 911. And I'm like, babe, like we're men. Like I'm not calling 911.

Like I'm not like, I dropped some grapes, man. Yeah, and then I dropped my cell phone a few times and So she's in a panic. I said babe, I'm asleep for an hour. That's it. And if I still feel weird Maybe I'll go. Yeah, she's like, please don't go to bed. Please, please, please I laid down man for five minutes and I'm like, nah, nah, something's not something's definitely not right Yeah, so right at that same time she came in and she's like, I said, okay, let's call. Bro, we called 911.

I'm not thinking stroke. This isn't in my head at all. Natalie goes around the hallway and she goes, I think my husband's having a stroke. And then I'm like, yo, what? Like in my head, I'm like, this woman, she's crazy. Like, so the paramedics go, well, if, if you think that lay them down on his back, when I tell you they arrived at my

house in three minutes, they arrived at my house in three, which is great to hear, right? Three minutes. That's all three minutes. Yeah. So I got four paramedics, I'm laying on my back and I checked out, they do a stroke test. They, they, you know, they, they do every time they have an

actual stroke test. They did a stroke test. I passed everything time. They have an actual stroke test. They did a stroke test. I passed, everything's fine. Natalie's still begging me to go. Now she's begging them, please tell him to go. So I'm laying on my back and I looked up at one of the firefighters. His name was Ryan.

And I go, bro, what do you think I should do? And he goes, pastor, as a member of your congregation, I think you should go. Bro, I had no idea who this guy was. I'd never seen him in my life. He got the call. He didn't know he was coming into his pastor's house. He didn't know until he saw me.

He walked in, saw the beard, and I had a Phoenix Suns hoodie on. And he was like, whoa, that's my pat. We'd never even met before. And so I'm getting stretcher. I said, okay, let's go. I get stretchered out. I wave to Natalie and Jazzy and I go, it's okay. I'll be right back. Dad's gonna get you know, checked out. Yeah. The hospital's four minute drive. Okay. They do a brain scan and my brain's

bleeding badly, like aggressively. Yeah. And and they call my wife and then they had to helicopter me to a different level one trauma center. Yeah, because they don't have it. That specialize in neurology and hemorrhagic strokes. And the thing about mine is, so your brain can, you know, it could bleed from anywhere, right?

And certain things affect, if it bleeds here, it might affect your speech. If it bleeds here, it might affect your memory or whatever it bleeds here, it might affect your memory or whatever. Mine was in the brainstem, so it'd affect everything. They said it's the worst stroke you could have. It's the worst imaginable. When I went from, guys, I'll be okay. I'm gonna go get checked to load it onto the ambulance.

I don't remember anything. Nothing, yeah. I don't remember the ambulance ride over, the scan, the health. I mean, I remember like, you know, like that's probably the power of being a dad though. Yeah. You won't let yourself go until finally you get in the ambulance and you can surrender. You go, oh yeah. And then your body shuts down.

I mean, it happens. So like my example would be my mom. He literally stayed alive until I could say goodbye. Yeah. Right. Bro. But that's's the power what a body can do. So you probably finally surrendered and then you blacked out or whatever you may have done. Yeah. Yeah and so I lost my speech, I lost my memory, I lost my cognition, I lost my motor skills. I'm hospitalized and laid up in a hospital bed and you know, they come, the way they do a stroke, the way they manage your progress or not is they come in every hour on the hour and they do this

series of tests and hey what's your name, what's your date of birth, what year is it, what day is it, who's your wife, who's your kids, it's that over and over, touch your nose and I mean I'm like gibberish and I'm you know trying to touch my nose and I can't and lift your nose and I mean I'm like gibberish yeah and I'm you know trying to touch my nose and I can't and lift your leg and I can't lift my leg and and while I was hospitalized I don't know the second day maybe third day the the doctor told my wife hey we want to prepare you because the effects of this particular stroke they're irreversible. So they're telling her this is, this is your husband.

This is your new husband. Yeah. Like he's a vegetable. Right. And so my wife is a woman of faith and she, she's not going to buy that. She, I mean, we love doctors and believe in doctors and science and medicine, but she went straight to the Bible and, and she didn't know what she was looking for, but she needed something to hold onto.

And she went to this verse in the book of Acts chapter 316. And I'm just gonna summarize it because I don't actually know it by heart. It was like, by faith, this man whom you see is completely healed in Jesus' name. So she just grabbed that, of course. I mean, like it's the first thing you see after the doctor says this, like that's like,

okay, man, I'm holding onto this. And dude, the miracle of the story is, the miracle is because we, you know, he is the miracle. What we've been singing about, preaching about, teaching about, believing about, is that God began to rapidly heal me, rapidly, so rapid, that it went from the effects are irreversible to I got out on Friday. So I was hospitalized Monday, I got out Friday evening.

And so, yeah, so man, I, you know, I then went into rehab. I mean, it's also it's a combination of like, I believe divinity, but also like putting the work in. So rehab and therapy, I was doing six therapy sessions, six days a week, I mean, all day. It was a full-time job. I'm not leading my church, preaching at my church. I've got other people coming in and doing it

and managing it and holding it down. And man, it changed my life. And so I wrote a book, there's an entire book about it, The Fire is for You. And I think that's a great title because one of the chapters is called The Fire is for You. And I think that's a great title because one of the chapters is called The Fire is for You, right? But if you think about, we all go through fires in life, man. Sometimes it might be in your business, like man, it feels like we're putting out fires all the time, employment issues, putting out fires all the time. Yeah. You know, all those different fires in

life, your marriage, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your child, like there's just like life is full of fires, man. Totally. Fires and the Bible uses three metaphors for trial, okay? And it uses storms. I'm going through a storm, man. Like life is raining down on me. It uses valleys.

That's a famous one, like Psalm 23. It's in valleys. Yeah, and we walked through the valley of the shadow of death, right? And that's like the low place, the low places in life. And then the fire, you know, is another metaphor. And the fires are like, man, dude, there's this pressure, I'm gonna get burned up, man, like I'm gonna be left in the ashes. And I think so many times in life, we try to curse the fire, right? And so the idea is that like with God, there are never any wildfires, only controlled fires. And certain scriptures talk about, you know, and I know a lot of your listeners, they might even be in the God or, it doesn't matter because it still relates.

Sure. We can still feel this. This has fire. Like certain, you know, the Bible talks about how the fire is there to purify you, right? It's there to refine you. And so the fire is for you and trials, and I'll end this little story with this, this part of the story is when it was Wednesday,

I was hospitalized, you know, Monday, when it was Wednesday, I was hospitalized, you know, Monday. When it was Wednesday, they're doing that test on me. You know, what's your, you know, what day is it? What's your name? You know, I can't talk. Right. And then they said, what's your children's names? You knew them? No, no. I said 40. I have three kids, Kylie, Josiah, and Jaslyn. I said 40. I have three kids, Kylie Josiah and Jazlyn. After, I said 40. And then I knew, bro, something, I knew. It was like, it's like right before blackout drunk. That's what it felt like.

Like you're about to be blacked out, but you can still kind of- I didn't know that feeling. Me too, I'd be lying. Me too, yeah, me too. I'd be lying as well. And, but it's right, it's like you can kind of, and like I knew this isn't good.

This isn't good. This isn't good. I looked at my wife after I said 40, I looked at her. She's standing by my hospital bed. And I said, and I was crying and I said, I said, count it all joy, plain as day, count it all joy. And the doctor goes, what did he just say? And Natalie said, he said, count it all joy, which is a Bible verse from the

book of James chapter one that says, count it all joy when you fall into various trials. Knowing that your faith and your perseverance, it's tested, but it's making you mature and complete, like the fire is for you. That's incredible. Dude, I can't remember what day, I can't remember my own name, my kids' names, Natalie's names. I don't know anything, but something deep down inside, I was able to like pull out a part of a scripture in context of what was happening. Yeah. Count it all joy. So chapter one's counted all joy. That was almost a book title, but it ended up being the fire is for you.

It's still been a good book title, but I would tell you this is super relatable everyone. Like this is a lot of entrepreneurs listening to this, but everything you're talking about is relatable. Whether it's a medical actual situation, but even if you brought it over to business, there's no business in this planet that is puppy dogs and rainbows and everyone prints money and they shit gold all the time.

It doesn't happen. Right. Right. Right. And so if you're out there listening to this or watching this, I want you to be very clear we're here talking about this man's life's work, but it's relatable to you because of what you're saying. There will be fire, there will be storm, there will be valleys. Yes. And it is the people that persist through that. Yes. Just like you did with your medical scenario, that actually come out on top over time. Yes.

Myself, I know our friend Sperber talks about this all the time, the longevity is because we keep going in spite of the failures. Yes. Same idea. Yes. Whether it's medical, whether it's a family scenario, whether it's a husband and wife, whether it's fucking fire. Yes.

And it's hot. And you get to make a choice. Yes. Yeah. But it is a genuine choice. You get to look in the mirror and, yeah. But it is a genuine choice. You get to look in the mirror and say, am I gonna fight the fight?

Or do I give up and passively live the rest of my life? Right. And it's worth the fight. Every time. Outlive the fire, outlive the trial, outlive the problem, outlive the critic, outlive the naysayers, like, I love that. Keep freaking going.

Every time. Go, yeah. And this is, you know know there's so many angles you and I could go in that right yeah but I think what is really important for the people to know is the word of what you're able to give to so many people not just within your church but think about the impact you're making with all the athletes yeah the high level entrepreneurs that you make such a massive impact on right I mean you are are a highly sought after individual in a general sense.

But one thing I want to get your take on, I'm a firm believer, I just had the blessing to speak at a clever summit. And because of the timing, what I was going to talk about did not happen. But what I was going to talk about is the power of people. Talk about the power of people in your life because I firmly believe you will be richer emotionally, psychologically, financially and go bigger, higher and better if you understand the power of the people that you're surrounded by, who you can network with. Yeah.

Talk a little bit about that. Great. Okay. So think about this. The book of Proverbs is 31 chapters, okay? Proverbs is, it's called a wisdom book, one of the wisdom books. 31 chapters written by King Solomon. King Solomon is considered the wisest person who's ever lived. Okay, so in Proverbs it talks about 16 types of friends, associations that you should not be around. Now church people are like, I thought you're supposed to love everybody, and you are. But think about it like this,

for every one of us, we have two types of friends, two types of business colleagues, two types of business partners or whatever, associations. Okay, one type is, there's casual friends and there's close friends. There's casual business connections and there's close ones, right?

So the casual ones are a result of circumstance. You're on my football team. You're on my sports team. You're on my gym bros. Gym bro, you happen to work out at the same gym that I do. So like you're a casual friend. Casual friends are a result of circumstance, Okay. Okay. And then we all have close friends and close friends are a result of choice. Mm hmm.

So Proverbs talks about 16 types of friends to not be close friends with lazy people. That's what I said. I mean, one of the one of the first like, well, lazy people, you know. Because who gravitates to lazy people? Like I don't want to belabor the point, but like you will not see you and by the way your pastor so respected. No, you won't see me with lazy people. You won't see Sperber with lazy people. Like she said, we don't know what to say. People getting after it, lighting the world on fire, like minded and you want people if you can that can pull you up.

Not that where you're pulling everybody else up. If you can get a seat at the table, if you can get a seat at the table, whatever table, even if you gotta buy the seat at the table for a while. Facts. Dude, buy it, get in the room. I gotta check every year.

Yeah, every year to be at tables that are way larger than I could ever get just shaking hands. On your own, no doubt, no doubt. And there's value in that. And I think there's so much, you're talking about people, right? And the power of people. Man, people can make you or break you.

They can pull you up, they can pull you down. They can make you better, they can make you worse. They can make you lazy, or they can make you work hard. People are contagious. And so, and not only about the people that were around, but the person that you are, like who are you? Like you become the person that you wanna be around. And then the people you wanna be around,

they wanna- Magically appear. They wanna be around you. That's right. Exactly. Dude, this has been, I mean, just because we have a short amount of time, I wanna get to the meat and potatoes. This book is gonna change hundreds of thousands of people's lives,

if not millions. Yeah. Let's, the fastest we can, describe really the entirety of this book as best you probably can. So one thing I've noticed about humanity in life, it doesn't matter if you make a lot, make a little. If you have a business or you don't have a business or you have 50 businesses, whether you're a high school athlete or a pro athlete, whether you're a pro athlete or you're, you know, a Hall of Famer, is that life is hard. Life is hard, man. Life is really, really hard. And it keeps coming at you. It keeps coming. It never stops throwing blows. And I was interviewed by the LA Tribune about the book a few

weeks back and they said if there's one one thing you would want people to get out of this book what would it be and I said hope. I love that. Because if you don't have hope man you don't have anything. Hope. I need hope. Hope for my marriage. Hope for my child. Hope for this sickness. Man somebody's diagnosed with cancer. I need hope. Diagnosed with a life-threatening, I need hope. My wife, I found out she cheated on me. I need some hope. My husband cheated on me. I need hope. My child, what like, so the book really is, my hope is that it provides hope. That's right. And it's real-life stories that are absolutely insane and hard to believe

because they're not normal. I mean, they are miraculous. So the book is really chopped up. You're not normal, dude. Yeah. And I say that in the very best way, think about your childhood. Think about how you were raised. Think about what you've overcome.

Think about you are the go-to guy for how many athletes? You're the go-to guy for tens of thousands of people in the Phoenix area. You're not normal. Yeah, yeah. To the best're not normal. Yeah, yeah. To the best of the degree. Yeah. Right? Man, I'm privileged.

And I'm, you know, I'm fortunate, I'm blessed. I take it serious. I try to honor God and honor people as the best I can. But you know, the reality is, is that I'm trying to do my part in a really big world. And hopefully this book, The Fire is for You, will really make an impact on people's lives. is is that I'm trying to do my part in a really big world and hopefully hopefully this book the fire is for you what we're really making an impact on people's lives because that's the whole point and it's gonna be everywhere right anywhere

that it'll be a museum obviously but every hour else fire is for you coming out November yeah the pre sale drops November 17th let's go and that's that's the big day it'll be on Amazon barns and it'll be everywhere it'll be everywhere you can buy a book it'll be there. It'll be everywhere. You can buy a book. It'll be there. I love that. Everyone, this is Travis Hearn, Pastor Trav, and now a good friend of mine. Make sure you follow him. Make sure you grab that book and make sure you stay tuned to everything he does on social media because he makes a massive impact. Pun intended.

Pun intended. That was a good one. Alright, y'all. That is the end of the Entrepreneur DNA. Stay tuned for the next episode. And if you like this like this just a little bit and you like Travis Hearn, make sure you share it with two people. Peace.