The Eric Metaxas Show - #112 - Glenn Beck

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

Today On The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric talks with Glenn Beck about America’s covenant with God, the Christian roots of the American Revolution, George Washington, George Whitefield, the Black Robe Regiment, and why America must remember the faith that made liberty possible. They also discuss Glenn’s upcoming speech in England with Tommy Robinson, the threat of Islamism in Europe, why the West cannot survive without God, and what Christians must recover if the republic is going to be kept. Subscribe for clips from The Eric Metaxas Show to hear politics and culture from a Christian perspective.⭐ FREE SLAVES with CSI: https://csi-usa.org/metaxas/⭐ PRE-ORDER TODAY:Revolution: The Birth of the Greatest Nation in the History of the World📕: https://a.co/d/0ir3NlapTODAY'S SPONSORS:📢 Don’t Let the Financial Storm Destroy Your Wealth and Future!https://www.metaxasgoldira.com/⚖️ Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: https://www.legalhelpcenter.com/🛏️ MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://www.mypillow.com/☀️ Honest, fast, and free Medicare plan guidance: https://askchapter.com/metaxas/💧 Sentry H2O: https://sentryh2o.com/

Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know if I've ever mentioned this before, but I like Glenn Beck a lot. And, you know, not everybody does, but people are wrong. And I just want to be all right, all right, I can already hear him laughing. Glenn Beck, I love you. I don't just like you. I love you. And it's a joy to talk to you. Anytime I get that privilege, welcome the program.

Yeah, it's great to be with you, Eric. I love you too. It is. Well, listen, you know, we're in the war together. And by the grace of God, we're, you know, we care about God's will. We care about the nation, about keeping the republic, preserving, saving the republic. And I want to talk to you about that because I'm excited. This year, of course, is the 250th anniversary of the birth of the greatest nation in the history of the world.

I call it the super centennial because when we were kids it was the bicentennial so it's America's bicentennial and we need a term that's better than semi-quincennial. So I'm calling it

the super centennial. President Trump is on board with that. But, you know, when I saw you a couple months ago I was telling you I've written a book on the subject,

I am dramatically excited about this. This is not just, oh, it's an anniversary. It seems to me like a special. moment in the history of our republic where we can go back to our roots, where we can restore the republic to its origins, without which it goes away. And I know that you know this, but I just wanted to talk to you about that. So it's funny that you would bring this up,

because I'm just sitting here waiting for this interview, and I was reading in Deuteronomy. And it's weird that you would say this because it was it was exactly what I was reading about, you know, how we kind of have a covenant. And if we don't, if we don't honor the covenant, we're in, really, we're in big trouble. Be careful and watch yourselves closely so you don't forget the things that your eyes have seen or let them fade in your heart as long as you live. Teach them to your children and the children after them. Assemble the people before me and hear my words so they may learn.

to revere me as long as they live in the land and may teach them to their children. And he goes on to say, you know, the minute you forget this, I'm going to, you're not going to get this land. And we are the only other covenant nation. I mean, Israel was a covenant nation and we made one. God made that one with Abraham. This one we made with God. We chose God. And if we don't turn back to God, we're in, you know, we're just, we're not going to make it. And, you know, there seems to be a revival and possibly an awakening that is beginning, which gives me great, great hope. Because what's coming is going to be really difficult, really difficult. Well, I don't think there's any doubt about that.

And, you know, if you have me on your program, I'll give you. the details, but I will just tell you the headline is that when I wrote my book on the Revolution, I did not. People kept saying, what's your angle? And I said, well, I don't have an angle. I just want to tell the story of the birth of the nation. Every American needs to know the story. Every American needs to know what the principles were and who the players were and the stories of heroism and the treachery of people like Benedict Arnold. And we just need to know it. But in the course of doing the research, I was truly, truly astonished. to see the biblical basis for everything,

that they all understood it that way. Samuel Adams gives a speech the day before they all sign the Declaration of Independence, August 1st of 1776. And in this speech, he uses the phrase, he says, we have this day restored the sovereign, capital S. We have gone back to the Sinai covenant where we look to God alone. I mean, it's an amazing thing. and it's our history,

and most Americans have never heard of this. This is the basis of the nation. And what's worse is there's so many Christians that dismiss it. You know, I don't think we believe in miracles anymore. I'm not sure. But I know, because I've read the founder's words myself as well.

They knew. If you look at the first line of George Washington's fair, his inaugural address, I'm going to butcher this, Eric, you might know this, but he says, there is no group of people that should know this more than us, that God is in our midst and, you know, we saw the miracles happen and we must remember and we must continue to praise him.

It's horribly but basically. But can you imagine that's George Washington, who is preposterously put forth as a deist? What a joke. What an insane. lie that it's pushed that ideas pushed and pushed and pushed and push and when I did the research I thought wait a second

that is completely ridiculously wrong it's madness but do you think Eric you would know better than I do is that because he used so many different names for God well no that's the excuse in other words people will say oh I mean

I mean that is that the excuse that they use is that of course yeah but again it's such a thin excuse because there's a hundred other examples of him talking about God acting in history miraculously. Deists don't talk like that. Deiast don't believe any of that stuff. You know, deist believes, if I'm not mistaken, that it's a clock. That God set the clock. He made the clock. And then he's walked away. He doesn't carry the way because he's busy. He's got other appointments. He's got other universes.

I got other things I'm doing in other places. Yeah. Yeah. And so that is definitely not George Washington, nor is it any of the founders. I mean, I don't know if you know this, Eric, but I have a letter from Thomas Payne. And I think it's to Adams, Sam Adams, I think, where he says, you know, he just gets out of prison. He's over, you know, and he's like, what are you guys doing to me? You guys are killing me. You're making me into the. this atheist. I'm not an atheist. I saw the miracles. I was there. It's an amazing letter. I saw the miracles. I know. I'm writing because I'm trying to explain to the French. I'm trying to the French have tied the king to the church and the church to God. So it's all one thing. I'm trying to say, I'm trying to say, forget about all of that. Forget about the church. Forget about even, you know, Jesus, just understand God. Just understand God. Just understand God.

He said, that's what I'm trying to do over here. And you guys are making me into this atheist. And that's not who I am. That's not what I'm doing. Glenn, I would do anything to see the text of that letter. I am not familiar with that. And I was under the impression, yeah, that Samuel Adams, I'm sorry, that Thomas Payne drifted off into French Enlightenment, rationalism at the end of his life.

Because we know that's what killed the French Revolution was their rejection of God. But they're a silly idea that we can have freedom and liberty and equality without God. No, no, no. You can't. He was not a, you know, he was not a Bible thumper. And he, you know, he wasn't what we would deem as a, as a Bible thumper. But in the letter, he says, I saw the miracles. I cannot deny what I saw.

I know. I'm trying to relate to them because he's starting to see the killing and everything else. And he's like, this is, he was, remember Jefferson and Payne were the ones who were arguing with Washington. We got to be involved over in France. And Washington said, it's not the American Revolution. Right. What they missed was the deep belief in God that was anchoring and that absence over in France. So when Thomas Payne finally saw it, he's like, okay, okay, I got to bring him back to God.

I got to show him God. And that's what he was doing. I'll share the letter with you, Eric. It's not in any textbook. And it's amazing. It's amazing. Well, this is the whole thing, Glenn, and this is, again, why I love you. Because ever since I've known you, you care about actual history.

And God wants us to restore the truth to the narrative. We've been living in our whole lifetimes with this silly, silly lies that it was French Enlightenment rationalism that led to America. No, ladies and gentlemen, that's a lie. And that's part of the reason I think that they push Jefferson so much. They see him as this iconic figure of French Enlightenment rationalism. They don't want to hear from, you know, Samuel Adams and John Adams. They're too Puritan, two Christian.

And it's simply not true. You do not get America without those, you know, Reformation, Puritan, Christian faith. There's a reason why we are the only revolutionaries that started a war that were the ones left standing to start the country afterwards. Every other revolution, it might start with one group, but it ends with another group. And the difference is we were based in deep principles. You know, I'm going over to England next week, Eric, and I'm going to speak at a big rally put on by Tommy Robinson's. They say it's for you. God bless you. That is fantastic. They say it's going to be the biggest freedom rally or biggest actual rally in England ever.

But I want to be encouraging, but I also really feel like I need to say, you know, don't forget the American principles that it is about the individual and it is about God. And it's the individual being endowed with certain inalienable rights. Glenn, you have to, you have an obligation to say to share that with them. They may never hear it again. We're going to go to a break. When we come back, I'm going to tell you a story along these lines. Very exciting.

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At least I think I am. Glenn, is that you? Yeah, yeah, it's me. Okay. Well, listen, you just shared something. I had no idea that you're going to be in England and that you're with Tommy Robinson. and praise the Lord for this. This is a big deal.

Because the hell they're going through over there right now, Europe obviously lost the thread. America, we, by the grace of God, understood this stuff in the 18th century. It had supposedly been established, you know, in the 17th century, but, you know, the English, most of parliament

and the king forgot about this, and they drifted off. But there was a battle, and I write about this in my book. I didn't, again, I didn't know this. There was a battle in England in the seven. 1760s, precisely along the same lines of the battle over here.

So the Sons of Liberty in the 13 colonies looked across the Atlantic. There was a figure, kind of like a Tommy Robinson of his day named John Wilkes. And John Wilkes was kind of a crazy guy, but he was a champion of liberty. And there was a moment in the 1760s and just after where I think a lot of the people who loved these ideas of liberty that our rights come from God, John Locke, all this stuff, there was a hope that that idea wouldn't just burst into flame in a good way in America, but also in England. And people like John Adams and others, I think Thomas Payne says it, that, you know, we may be the ones to save England from going down the wrong path. Obviously,

it didn't work out that way, but I sometimes wonder if in God's economy, if we're not in a moment now where England can be saved and brought into the same thing that we have here. I mean, I think that that's God's will, but that's, you know, hearing that you're going to be speaking at a rally with Tommy Robinson gives me real hope along those lines. Well, it gives me clarity that I now I know exactly. I have to say those things. So I've been going back and forth. I wrote something and I don't want to seem like I'm preaching to them about, you know,

what you have to do now. But I just am very concerned that unless you restore God into this, unless you understand the, you know, George Whitfield was English. It was George Whitfield that came here that actually planted all of these seeds in us. And it is the difference between the French Revolution and the American Revolution. It has to be centered on inalienable rights that come from God. And we're the only nation that has that. It's the reason why we're, you know, we're the least damaged out of the West, you know, but we have forgotten them too. We have to

restore them ourselves. That's right. That's right. Well, I mean, it wouldn't surprise you that my book is all about this without intending to be. Without George Whitfield, there's no America. John Locke is an Englishman. You can reference John Locke. You can reference John Wilkes. You can reference Whitfield that movement. I mean, John Locke, you know, he popularizes the idea that our natural rights come from God. All of this stuff is, where did we get it from? We got it from, you know, Tyndale. And it's like it comes from through the Reformation.

And they lost the thread. But I really believe there's a chapter in my book. There's a whole essay that John Adams writes in 17, He's 30 years old. He writes this big essay, and it's like he's speaking prophetically about these kinds of things. I mean, I've never seen that side of John Adams, but I feel like there were people back then who had a sense that England wants this too. And, you know, what happened over there is another story, but I am really excited that you're going over there. Because I've been thinking this a lot about this a lot recently that, you know, we need to restore this for

public. We need this. But I think we will. I think we're in the process of that. I think May 17th, when we rededicate the nation to God on the mall, I'll be there. But I believe that I will be there for sure. I'm still going to be overseas and I was there. I mean, you know, you and I have talked about this. Eric, forever that we have to renew the covenant. That has to be done. Are we? Are we? And I don't, I don't know enough about this. The people I'm assuming that, that are putting this all together. They understand the covenant, and that is the object of this, right?

Well, that's my understanding. There's also an event the night before where maybe that will be more explicit. It does seem to me that that's what this is all about. And by the way, when they picked May 17th, they didn't know. When they picked that date for the mall to rededicate the nation to God,

they didn't know that May 17th, 2026 is the exact 250th anniversary to the day of when Congress issued a, a proclamation of a day of prayer and fasting, May 17th, precisely 250 years to the day. I believe this is God speaking in history prophetically. We're going to go to another break. Folks, I'm talking to Glenn Beck. Don't go away. Folks, do not forget if you have questions about gold or silver, we recommend, highly recommend, Genesis gold. They'll answer your questions. We trust them. We believe in them.

And you can find them at Metaxusgoldir.com. Metaxusgoldirra.com. Welcome back, folks. I'm talking to Glenn back and we're getting excited. Glenn, you know, your heart for this kind of stuff. It moves me. The rally is the 16th.

So the messes that the serious stuff that you just said was happening that's when I'll be at the rally in England. I mean... Well, I want to tell you there was... And again, I don't see anybody who has seen this until I saw it. So when I saw it, I thought, is this just me? This happens to me every time I write a book,

it happened with Bonhooper. I kind of read stuff and I go, wait a minute. Is anybody seeing this? This is... And I realize in a way nobody has. And so it's a gift from the Lord that I get to kind of notice something. And so what I noticed was this link

between the sons of liberty in the colonies. Now imagine 1760s, nobody's thinking about independence. They're all thinking about restoring the rights of all Englishmen that our rights come from God. So you have people like William Pitt, he gets it. Edmund Burke, he gets it.

There are many who get it, but as we know, King George III doesn't get it, Lord North doesn't get it. And so they go a different path, which leads to tragedy. I mean, I just saw, I don't recommend it,

but there's a movie, Mike Lee made a movie called Peter Liu about, kind of about these issues, about the oppression of the working classes in England in the early part of the 19th century. And you realize they didn't have what we have here. They didn't have everybody gets to vote, representational government. They didn't believe in these ideas. And it was really, it was a beastly world, basically, for the common man. And so I have this crazy idea that it's God's will now to bring these ideas to the people in England. And I think they're hungry for it, Glenn.

I think if you talk about God, I think your average Englishman who loves England knows, just as they did in World War II. They're not, you know, this is not like you're speaking to, I don't know, people in Sweden or, You're talking to people who I think they have this in their DNA, in their culture. You know, they had it in World War II. You know this at Dunkirk people were praying. It is a big part of their history, their national history. You know, I might want to call you when I'm over there because I think I'm going to be speaking at the, is it the Oxford Club or Cambridge? I can't remember.

Oxford Union, yeah. That's what it is, the Oxford Union. And again, I was thinking, they said, you know, even picked the topic and I was thinking Declaration of Independence. So maybe I could talk to you before I go in there because that's just a lion's den. But I think God and the Declaration of Independence is what I was supposed to talk about there as well. Well, I mean, look, I spoke at the Oxford Union. I debated there about 20 years ago and it's really, it's become worse and worse.

But, but I mean, listen, what we all need to be clear on, every America needs to know, you know, Thomas Jefferson didn't come up with the idea that all men are created equal. He just wrote some sentences in a beautiful way, but we act like these are his ideas. They're not his ideas. They're the ideas of everyone who preceded him. These are the ideas of Samuel Adams and John Adams and down the line. They all understood this. and it was the heart of everything. And so it's important.

Have you gone through any of the the sermons that we have at our museum? We have thousands of sermons from the founding era and all of this stuff that you're talking about, all of this, it's all was on being preached from the pulpit. You would not. That's the point.

Yeah. They didn't come up with this in 1776. Thomas Jefferson didn't come up with this. this had been preached from pulpits for decades and decades. You've talked about the Black Rope Regiment. And I was recently with Tim Barton and saying to him, like, it just kills me that I didn't get over to the museum and that I didn't have time before I wrote my book. But so much of this is, you know, this is our history. In fact, there was John Adams references a sermon that was preached by a Jonathan Mayhew in Boston in 1750, where Jonathan Mayhew,

basically says that, you know, the interpretation of Romans 13, that we're supposed to do whatever the government says that that's wrong. No, we have a duty to stand up against tyrannist government. And John Adams says that that sermon preached in 1750. Everybody knew the sermon. It had been printed. Everybody was aware of it. So this was part of the culture, the Christian culture, absolutely of Puritan, Massachusetts.

but this is what led to the American Revolution. And there's no other way to get there. We have to go to another break, forgive me, but there's no other way to get there. And most Americans don't know this. Most Americans don't know that it was George Whitfield and others. It was his preaching that that stirred this up so that the Black Royal Regiment is preaching this stuff.

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Welcome back, folks. I'm talking to Glenn Beck. We're talking about our roots. We're talking about our founding. And Glenn, you know, you're one of the few people. You know this about the Black Royal Regiment, that this stuff was preached from pulpits. For decades, it comes out of George Whitfield's preaching,

which is really a rekindling of the Reformation, Puritan, theology of the previous century, which had kind of waned a little bit, but it got stirred up in the 18th century, and it leads directly to the American Revolution. Did you know, I don't know if you know the story of when Benedict Darnold, before he becomes a bad guy, George Washington sends him to march through the wilds of Maine to try to take Canada. And at the beginning of that trip, he makes a detour. He's going up the coast, and he's in Newburyport, Massachusetts. and they go his thousand men, 1100 men, go into a church, which was one of the flagship church of the Great Awakening.

Whitfield had preached there many, many times, and there's a big sermon. And when it's over, the officers with Arnold go into the crypt. They ask, can we see the grave of George Whitfield? Do you know the story? Yeah, I do. Isn't it unbelievable? It's like George Whitfield was the patron saint of America.

You have to tell the rest of this. For those who don't, you have to tell the rest of the story. Well, I mean, it's obviously it's in my book, but I mean, I think I wrote about it in my previous book. It's crazy. They decide to go into the, they say, they know that George Whitfield died in 1770. So this is five years earlier he died. He was buried in the crypt. He preached his last sermon and he's now buried under the pulpit in the crypt.

So the officers go down and they ask the sexton or whoever it is, can we remove the lid of this, you know, hoffin? They remove it. They see the moldered remains of Woodfield. He's turned to dust. But his clothing, the cuffs of his, of his gown and the collar are still existing. And they cut strips of it to take with them as like holy relics on their expedition. And you think. And they put it, don't they put it on their uniforms?

Probably. You always know a little bit more than I do. I could be making it up too. But what is, but what is this? tell us about the nature of this effort. That they look to George Whitfield. That's like looking to Billy Graham. They look to the evangelist of that century as he was their patron saint.

They wanted the blessing of him. This is not a French Enlightenment project. No, not at all. And we have to, I have feeling that we have more humbling that has to happen. to us before we can get back to those kinds of things, because that's what it's going to require. I, you know, Eric, I'm, you know, with seeing what's happening in the rest of the world,

and especially over Europe and here in America, what's happening, I mean, we are, we are going to be battling an ancient evil. I mean, we're battling evil right now, but we're going to actually, I think, be fighting physically against. an army of Sharia law and Islamists. I mean, they are very clear.

That's what they're doing to Europe. And, you know, you never, I would never bet against somebody who has religious fervor. They do. Nobody in Europe does. Nobody in Europe does. Isn't that the point?

I mean, if you want to know why the West is falling, I mean, certainly why Western Europe is falling is because they're no longer Christians. They're post-Christian. They're secular. And if you're secular, forget it. You know, radical Muslims, they know, it's kind of like, you know, the vandals, the visigoths, you know, taking over decadent Roman Empire. I mean, they are, they're wild men going against soft, decadent, a soft decadent culture in decline. Yeah. I mean, you look at the Knights of Malta. That turned that thing around. And how many of them were there? There was barely any.

of them. And it was their dedication to God that made the Islamic horde go, okay, we're, let's turn around. Let's get back on the boat and turn around here. This is not the way. And, and that's, they've learned their lesson and now they've waited for us to be, uh, ripe for the picking. And we don't believe in anything anymore. They do. They do. They believe in something. Well, you know and I know that there are many, many, many Americans who believe fervently, who are very strong, dedicated Christians. It's just that our voices have largely been silenced. The mainstream media, the New York Times, the elite universities, they don't even acknowledge the existence except to mock the existence of people of sincere faith. But there are so many that do have that faith. And we know that.

When I went to Iran, we were getting people out of Iran, Christians out of Iran. And I went and I get on the plane in New York and my security said, I don't know if this is going to happen tonight because they've targeted the church where we were supposed to meet at 7 o'clock that night. They've targeted the church. ISIS had. And they said they're going to blow it up. They're going to kill everybody inside. Did you say Iraq or Iran? It was Iraq.

Sorry, Iraq. Iraq. Okay. And I said, wow, that's probably not going to happen. And so we land and I said, where are we meeting? He said at the church. I said the same church. And he said, yeah, I go to the church.

They're already there at 6 o'clock at night. ISIS has targeted this church at 7 p.m. And I walk in and I expected to see these people kind of, they're in full-fledged celebration and there is nothing going to stop them. And I talked to them and it said, you know, to some of the leadership. I said, you know, ISIS and they said, yeah. And they kind of laughed. And they said, do you know what a relief it would be for us to die for the Lord?

tonight. We would be going to heaven tonight. We will be with the Lord in an hour. We welcome that. And I'm like, well, I don't really welcome. And they were like, look, we don't want to die. We don't want to die. But we're not going to cower in front of these people. And I saw faith, Eric, that I've never seen before in America, because we've never had to exercise it. But there are Christians that we should look to and learn from. They've lived it. And they're in China and they're in the Middle East. They've lived it. They're in Africa. That's the point, isn't it? We forgot that if we actually believe what we claim to believe, we're not supposed to fear death. We're supposed to rejoice because, by the way, when you kill me, oh, I don't die. I think there are a lot of Christians that maybe they're

not so sure about that, or they need a reminder that, oh, excuse me, it's actually true. And I know that there are Christians in America that have that kind of faith. I do too. But I do wonder what it will take to wake up the rest. Many that are still not awake. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. Are you in New York? I'm in New York. Yeah. I can tell. Can you hear a siren? The siren capital of the world. Yes.

I'm sorry you could hear it. But no, I think, Glenn, you're right. And that there are many, I mean, even in places like, Texas, that they're just asleep to the threat of Sharia. Or I guess a lot of these folks. They're asleep in their arrogance. They think it will never happen here. You know, and the arrogance of people who are calling for revolution and, you know,

all these people who are saying, you know, get on the streets and no king and all that. And now some on the right as well. Do you know what that means? Do you have any idea? People just think it will always. be relatively good. It'll be better than this. No, no, when you look into the void, the void looks into you. It doesn't just, it just doesn't get magically better. It, it magically gets better when you live a life that is worthy of blessings. And then it may not get better

for you, but maybe get better for the next generation of the generation after. I think that's one of the things that moves me in my research on the revolution that how they suffered, how Washington suffered and endured, and how many, how many sacrificed and how many Americans died and suffered and I think, you know, folks, if you're not willing to do that, why do you get to be free? Why should why should we be free if we're not willing to pay the price for freedom? Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. We live in a time where sacred honor,

I don't think people even know what that is. Our fortunes, oh, I mean, I'll lose some, but how much am I going to lose? And of course, our lives, well, I mean, I'm willing to get involved, but, I mean, wait, I have to go to prison for it. These guys wrote these words knowing they were going to be hung. At best, they'd be hung. And their families would be killed. I mean, that's a different kind of society than one we're living in. And it was, you know, it's my conclusion really that it was

dramatically Christian. I just, everywhere you look, their references just as they speak, the most dramatic example is Abigail Adams's letters are just, every other phrase is from scripture. Right. And they wrote it in such a way you don't know, if you don't know scripture, you don't know it. It was just their language. That's, that's exactly correct. If you don't know scripture, you're going to miss it all. I'm just, there's a book, a memoir by Joseph Plum Martin. I'm doing an addition of it with our publishing imprint. And I said, I'm going to have to annotate this because people aren't going to get most of the references. When he says it was as dark as Egypt, they're not going to understand he's referring to the

in Egypt where it's as dark as night in the middle of the day. People just aren't going to get that because it's gone out. Well, I believe it's Lord's will that have come back. And I know that we will be right back talking to Glenn Beck. Hi, everyone. If you were injured in an accident, listen up. We have legal professionals standing by to answer your questions. You can find out if you have a case and how much it's potentially worth.

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whether we can keep the Republic. I believe the Lord has ordained that we are to keep the Republic, that in spite of the madness and that the madness that we're seeing the anti-Semitism on the course, quote unquote, woke right, heartbreaking to see what's happened to Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, people that we thought were allies.

Some, I don't know what has happened, but I believe that God has simply ordained, just as he did in the revolution and in the civil war, that his will would prevail. But it doesn't mean that we don't suffer and take casualties, that when you're in a war, you may win, but you have to fight and pray and suffer. And it also, I mean, I want to just, we have to remain humble. You know, Lincoln really struggled with this. I mean, everybody's praying to the same God. They're saying the same thing, my side, my side.

You know, and I can only do right as God gives me the ability to see the right. You know, it's for us to be able to be humble enough to ask to be on his, side, not ask him to be on our side. We have to ask to be on his side. Lord, what would you have me do today? Show me what you want me to do, and I'll do it. And I won't do more and I won't do less. I'll do just what you ask me to do. And that's hard. You know, that takes faith and it takes a lack of ego. Lack of ego. Lack of ego. Well, I mean, I think if you have real faith, you have a lack of ego because you're wise enough by God's grace to know you don't have it figured out and you actually need God. That's not just an idea. Yeah. Billy Graham said to me,

he said, probably about five years before he died, he said, and I am not afraid of death. I'm just not afraid of death. He said everything I've done in my life that worked out and was good was him. Everything that I did that didn't work out was me. And he said, I know the difference between him and me. And I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid of death.

The whole dying part of it makes me a little concerned. But death I'm not afraid of. I just love that. Well, I mean, I have to say that that kind of, you know, submission to Providence, you see that in George Washington over and over again. And if it's not, and if God's not in the middle of it, it's just fatalism. But it's not. It's not fatalism. In his, you see that Washington genuinely trusted Providence. And, you know, we need to remember that, that this great man who was so. And he genuinely prayed all the time. Now, whatever it is do you have of that? Because there's so many.

people say like, oh, really? What do you mean? What do you mean? I mean, the biggest, the biggest piece of evidence is the prayer at Valley Forge. That famous painting. That didn't come out of nowhere. We know about that because of, oh, shoot, what's his name? Now I'm going to forget his name. But he was actually on the other side. He was on the king's side. He was a loyalist. And he kept his eye in Valley Forge on George Washington. and he sees him go into the woods. So he takes his horse and he ties him off. And he snakes around in the woods trying to find Washington.

And he sees him there praying. And George Washington didn't pray with his head down like this. He opened up his arms like this and he spoke to the Lord. And gosh, what is his name? He saw it and listened to it, gets on his horse. He rides home and he goes to his house and he said, honey, we have to switch sides. we are on the wrong side.

Any man who speaks to the Lord like that, the Lord will listen to. I don't know that account, so I'm glad to hear you tell it. I found something, I didn't put it in my book, but I found a thing where somebody at Valley Forge saw him praying in his office

or in his back office or something, I guess. I'm on his knees praying. And there's so much evidence along these lines. And I think he prayed before every meal and after every meal. preachers would get up after the meal and he'd look at them like what are you doing and then they sit back down and he'd give thanks after the meal as well i mean lots of evidence he prayed a lot

well but i know but can you believe that people are still pushing the idea that he was a deist like it's so silly that i just have to laugh like it's just wishful thinking people who would prefer you know the uh the the the the Howard zin version of our history than the actual version Well, that's what people believe, and that's our job to change that. Yeah. Well, Glenn, you've done a lot along those lines. I'm just grateful for you. Thanks for coming on today.

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If you want to send in questions, we're going to be doing more of this now, okay, now that I'm done writing the Revolution book. And if you want to reach me or, you know, send us questions, go to my website, Ericmetaxis.com. Please send in your questions where it says, you know, comment or reach Eric or whatever. Just say, you know, I watch the podcast or listen to the podcast and here's a question. just do that if you would. So here's a couple.

Ready? First one says, I'm so interested in understanding our history. Can I read the names? Tracy Beach. Tracy, come on down. Tracy Beach says, I'm so interested in understanding our history, but I often hesitate because I only want the truth. Can you recommend a few authors besides myself?

No. Actually, there are so many authors I could recommend. But where would I start? my friend Mike Wilkerson has written some great books on American history. Mike Wilkerson, he's bought on the program many times. He's written two great books. David Barton and Wall Builders, you should know about Wall Builders. Let me just say Wall Builders is super solid, fantastic.

I can't rattle off a lot of authors right in history authors right now, but wall builders, I would start there. Mike Wilkeson. Okay, second question. Mark Branton writes, Eric, how do you decide who to interview and when? He meant to say, how do you decide whom to interview and when, but we're going to let it go. What current events happen? When current events happen and there are experts in that field, when somebody's book you like is coming out or maybe you just like talking to them and haven't in a while.

there's no real answer to this. I think, you know, out of laziness or efficiency, you go to the people that you trust. And so there's just a handful of people that I have come to know and love and trust, whether it's Johns Merak at the top of the list, Naomi Wolf. There are just a handful of people, Rod Martin, that I go to, Larry Taunton, that you've seen on this program. Roger Stone, Victor Davis Hansen. We try Ali Beth Stuckey, Megan Basham.

You know, there's a few that you'll see on this program regularly, whom I trust, that they're not going to go off on their thing. So that tends to be the way we do it. Sometimes if somebody has a book coming out and they reach out to us and say, I'd like to talk about my book. If it's a book that I think would interest you, I will have them on. So it's kind of like that.

It's kind of, there's no real, you know. Okay, final question. This one's a crazy one. You ready? This is Samuel Harmon writing. Eric, hello. I was listening to your show with Ali Beth Stucky, where you mentioned that you were disappointed or frustrated with Christians

who had bad theology, in quotes, that led them to not believe that anything mattered, including politics. The sentiment is that it does not matter who is in office because Christ will win in the end. I have plenty of people in my life who fall in this camp, and I was wondering what your scriptural and theological argument would be to convince someone that these things did matter.

Thanks, Samuel Harmon. Samuel Harmon, let me just tell you something. People who say this are idiots. Now, are they total idiots? No, but what they're saying is so sloppy and so unbiblical. How do you convince anybody who says something completely out of whack with Scripture? many times you can't because they love the idea that they can sit on their hands and do nothing while evil runs rampant. So I can't help speak strongly, forgive me, but it's so upsetting to me because these people have existed since the beginning of the time.

The real word is they're fools. They're foolish. They have allowed satanic evil to harm those whom God loves based on horrible theology. I talk about this in my revolution book that in 1750, there was a pastor in Boston named Jonathan Mayhew who preached a famous sermon debunking the standard version of Romans 131 that just, you know, a lot of people think, oh, that means I don't have to do anything that the government could, I'm just going to go along with the government. No, no, no, no, no. That's complete nonsense. If you read all of scripture, there's plenty examples, you know, whether you're looking at, you know, the book of Esther, or Daniel on and on and on of how we're supposed to stand up to wicked rulers. So there are a lot of people that are just sloppy and lazy

and they don't care. And so I don't know what you say to people like that, but it's like I'm tempted to just want to scream at them and say, shame on you. Shame on you. I mean, read my book, Letter to the American Church. There's a start, letter to the American Church, because I try politely to get into this

for people who have hung on to this horrible theology. which was a horrible theology of those who allowed the Nazis to murder millions. So yeah, the church should be involved. That's just a great question. God bless you.