The Eric Metaxas Show - #115 - L.A. Marzulli

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

Today On The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric talks with L.A. Marzulli about UFO disclosure, alien abduction claims, Nephilim, demons, fallen angels, and why Christians need a biblical framework for understanding the supernatural realm. They discuss government reports about recovered craft and bodies, the days of Noah, the Book of Enoch, Genesis 6, Goliath, the seed war, spiritual deception, and why Jesus remains the answer in the face of fear and confusion. Subscribe for clips from The Eric Metaxas Show to hear politics and culture from a Christian perspective.⭐ PRE-ORDER TODAY:Revolution: The Birth of the Greatest Nation in the History of the World📕: https://a.co/d/0ir3NlapTODAY'S SPONSORS:⭐ FREE SLAVES with CSI: https://csi-usa.org/metaxas/📢 Don’t Let the Financial Storm Destroy Your Wealth and Future!https://www.metaxasgoldira.com/⚖️ Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: https://www.legalhelpcenter.com/🛏️ MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://www.mypillow.com/☀️ Honest, fast, and free Medicare plan guidance: https://askchapter.com/metaxas/💧 Sentry H2O: https://sentryh2o.com/

Folks, welcome to the show. If you're not excited, that's because you don't know who I have on as my guest right now. His name is L.A. Marzuli. I don't know how to sum him up. He has written many books, made many films on really kooky subjects, which unfortunately are true and real. We've talked in the past about Nephilim, about what people think are UFOs. and we're going to talk about some of that right now. L.A., welcome back.

Great to be here. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it. Where do we start? A friend of ours has a daughter who was interviewing RFK Jr. recently. Now, I've interviewed him at Socrates in the city. But this journalist, young woman,

in the conversation with him, he said he brought up some of the stuff that he had seen. So you have people in our government right now, I guess Thomas Massey and others or who, I don't even remember who, some congressmen, not Massey, somebody else.

Jim Burchett and Anna Polina Luna. Jim Perchette. Okay, they say they've seen this stuff or whatever. And I want to say, excuse me, whatever you've seen, I'm not saying it's not real, but it is not,

aliens from other galaxies that is absolutely not true. But then the question is what is it? So I do want to talk to you about that because it's not enough to say, oh, it's demonic. It is demonic. But specifically, I think people myself at the top of the list are challenged in trying to understand, you know, when the government says or when somebody says that the government has bodies of creatures that are not human. What the heck are they talking about?

I mean, it becomes really annoying to me when people throw this stuff around and you want to say, what are you talking about? And I guess the easy answer is, well, they're aliens. And you know, and I know they're not. So what are they? Okay. This is the deep end of the pool. So we're going to take your people.

We're going to put them right into the deep end of the pool because we don't have time to go through it line by line, precept by precept. So this is what we're looking at. According of the book of Enoch, which is not part of our canon, but Jude quotes it. All right. So fallen angels have a physicality to them, just like when Jesus shows up to Abraham with the two other angels, there's three of them. One of them is the son of man.

It's obviously Jesus. The two angels is physicality. They go into Sodom and Gomorrah. The men want to have sex with them. It's unbelievable, right? So there's physicality to this whole thing. Okay, pause. I'm going to interrupt.

But those are the good guys. Those are the good guys. People who are listening are going to, some people are going to get annoyed. I have to interrupt for clarity, right? Okay. I know, you know, the story you're talking about in Sodom. Right. That the angels have physicality,

but we do not have the bodies of angels, right? In other words, my guess would be that the bodies of angels are somehow, it's like when Jesus appears, yes,

he's in a body, but where is the body. We don't have the bodies of angels. There's not a crypt someplace and you go see there's a dead angel. So talk about this. Okay. And I was trying to set this up. So those are angels. They have immortal bodies. They cannot be destroyed. Can they be wounded? Conjecture on my part. When Michael fights with the devil and his angels and they're kicked out of heaven, second heaven and they come to earth. How does that work? Obviously, something is going on during that altercation between the good guys, Michael and his boys, and the bad guys.

The bad guys are pushed out of heaven in some ways. Daniel is another perfect example. Daniel prays. The angel takes 21 days to get to him. He's got to go back and get Michael. They fight with the Prince of Persia. How do they fight? We're not told.

But I think they can be wounded. They can't be killed because they're immortal beings. They have physicality. They have bodies. Okay. Stop there. We know from Genesis 6 and the book of Enoch, when you take chapter section overlay it on the King James Version,

of Genesis 6, they read word for word, except the sons of God, the angels of heaven. The sons of God are in the book of Enoch said the angels of heaven. Came down, took women, that's wives, that's plural. They went into them in a sexual way. They created a hybrid being. Fallen angel, human women create a hybrid being known as the Nephilim. This is the reason for the flood. The disembodied, here's the payoff.

The disembodied spirits of the Nephilim are demons that wander the earth. Okay, slow down, slow down. I love you, because you really understand this stuff, but I want my audience to understand it as well. And this is the deep end of the pool. And to a lot of people, this just sounds like loony stuff. So I want to really break it down. Say it again slowly that who came down and impregnated human women?

In Genesis 6, the sons of God, the Benahah al-Heem, always refers to the angelicose. the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were beautiful and desired them. They took wives. I have a whole book on this countermoot, however nephalin return to the flood. Wives, plural.

They pollute the genome. Why? Because Genesis 315. Excuse me. Who? Fallen angels. Okay. Follen angels.

Sons of God, fallen angels, come down, take wives. They go into them, create a hybrid. No, no, no, no. I guess, but I want to, you got to forgive me and the people listening. You have to forgive me because I just want to, I wanted this to be crystal clear.

When you say the fallen angels, so the scripture uses the term the sons of God, but we know we're talking about fallen angels. Correct. Okay. So fallen angels are damned, correct? Well, yeah, but they're still roaming the earth. They're still doing.

I know that. I know that. Absolutely. So these are fallen angels. They have the ability to mate with human women, which again, about this on the program in the past. That's a stretch that you think, wait a minute, how can that be? But let's

just accept it. So if that is the case, fallen angels, which are, are they demons or are they just fallen angels? I'm trying to get to the payoff. You know, I know, but I just want to make sure that people get the joke, get the punchline when it comes out. These are fallen angels mating with human women creating a hybrid entity known as the Nephilim. When the flood comes and destroys the Nephilim, not the fallen angels because they're immortal beings.

Some of them are locked up. How do we know that from Jude? Because where does Jesus go after the crucifixion? He goes right, Peter goes right down to Chaturis. And who's there? The fallen angels who were chained. It says right in our Bibles, that's who's there. What were they chained from?

That's the first incursion. That's the first incursion. So those angels are rounded up. They're still immortal beings, but they're in dark gloomy dungeons. Jesus shows up and goes, checkmate, the cross, it's over, checkmate. But here's the payoff. So the fallen angels take human women, they create a hybrid being known as the Nephilim. The flood comes and wipes the Nephilim out.

Well, the bodies are not immortal, so they die in the flood. But the spirits of the Nephilim become the demons that wander the earth. Okay, now, again, this is important. because we're laying down a foundation for the further conversation, folks. That's why I'm interrupting so annoyingly, and I apologize again. So you shared this on the program in the past, and I just want to make sure that I get this. So fallen angels mate with women, forcibly, rape women. The offspring are Nephilim.

What are Nephilim? In other words, I'm not really clear on what is a Nephilim. So it's half human, half something else? Correct. Goliath is a perfect example of that. Everybody knows Goliath. Goliath is a Nephilim. He's a Nephilim.

He's a Nephilim. How can Goliath be a Nephilim if all the Nepheline were destroyed in the flood? No, that's what people don't get. I have a whole book on this. Counter move, how the Nephilim returned after the flood. There's a second incursion. There's a third incursion. There's a fourth incursion.

Today, in modernity, Daniel, the prophet says, their seed, you know, seal up the words in the book, Daniel, right? Their seed, whose seed? Their seed will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them. I got this from Chuck Messler. Their seed, whose seed, it's not the seed of men. So who is it? We're back at Genesis 315. It's the seed war. It's between the seed of the dragon, the offspring of the dragon, and the offspring of the woman. That is the entire biblical narrative. Okay, but again, you know this so well that I want to slow you down for people who don't understand this stuff at all. Because it's important. The Nephilim.

Okay. So Goliath is a nephalim. And so the nephalim are humanoid. They look like humans, but they're not. But they're not. They, why do we not have skeletons of nephalim of nine foot tall nephalim? Hey, y'all. Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair.

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L.A. Marzuli wrote a book called On the Trail of the Nephilim. I don't doubt that the answer is in that book, but since I can't read the book now and you're on the program... You want me to look at the picture. Look at the picture. That's a nine-fielder, but I discovered out on Catalina Island. You discovered. I discovered the photograph, correct. Oh, you discovered the photograph? I did, yeah, this is from 1921. That's right. That's right. That's... That's Roth Glyden who you're looking at. And that is basically a nine-foot skeleton in front of him. I'll show it to you again.

And where do you think that nine-foot skeleton is? Do you think that we have any of this stuff? Oh, we have it. We definitely have it. But it's hidden away. And why is you hidden away? See, the problem with this is, you know, we only have a certain amount of time. And we keep bouncing around.

And that opens up a whole other can of words. So where are they? and some people will save a Smithsonian. I have pictures. I have artifacts. All right, listen, we're going to go to a break. Folks, we got plenty more with L.A. Marzuli. Don't go away.

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I don't want them just to say, oh, they talked about a lot of stuff. I didn't get it. I want people to get it. And this is tough stuff. What you're saying is not common knowledge. No, it's not. So, but so you were talking earlier about in the flood, the Nephilim were destroyed. And you said their spirits live on.

And those are demons. Correct. Those are the demons that wander the earth. Now, to your original question about the bodies that we hear about from people in Congress, I have seen with my own eyes, you know, retrieve bodies from the crash. So what are they? They're bodies. They're not fallen angels. So what are they? And this took me years to figure out, years to figure out. And I talked to the late David Flynn about this. I said, David, I keep coming up to this one line, and it's so bizarre. are, I can't get my head around it. And he said, so we talked and he agreed with me. He said, yeah, I get it. I did the same thing, but I agree with what you're saying. And what I was saying to him was this, you have demons that wander the earth. When Jesus casts out the demons from the man of the tomb, who are you? Legion, many. So more than one demon can inhabit a person. But in order for a demon to manifest in our reality, in this three-dimensional space-time continuum, they have to either possess a body, a human being, or an animal, which we see sometimes, or sometimes

they'll attach to an object. So it can be one of the three things. So the dragon, Satan, knows all this. He knows he's got a force that could be reckoned with. But alas, they don't have bodies. They don't have bodies. So what does he do? And this is where it can go right off the rails for many people. But you see, because we have this very truncated view of the supernatural, we don't understand what the enemy can do and what dot can do. I mean, we also have, we have a lot of people maybe listening who have zero view of the supernatural. They don't even believe in the supernatural. The supernatural is real, folks. And what we're trying to do, at least what I'm trying to do, is understand it to the best of our ability. We've heard about angels. We've heard about

demons. Jesus acknowledges angels and demons. This is as basic as it gets. What we're talking about now is more complicated and a little bit challenging. So bear with us. So LA, let me ask you, you said that when an Ephelim is killed, his spirit goes someplace. So I have to ask the question, when Goliath is killed, does his spirit go someplace? Absolutely. The spirits are earthbound. They are earthbound. They don't go to the second heaven, or maybe they do, but they're basically earthbound, and they can't just materialize because they're incorpical. They have no bodies. So the enemy, this is where it gets very deep and very dark. The enemy knows this. And before I give you that information, let me back up. Are we the people that believe in the virgin birth,

floating ax-heads, talking donkeys, men that walk on water, water that's changed into wine, water that stands up on a heap and allows a couple of million people to walk through? Are we the people that really believe that? Or is that just, well, that just happened then. It doesn't, no, whatever. The Bible tells us that the dragon, Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders. So what are we looking at? So the dragon knows this. The dragon knows he's got a force of demons, but they can't materialize. So what does he do? He creates avatars. He creates an avatar body for them. How do I know this? I've talked to too many abductees who have seen them. Whitley Streber, who was not a Christian, as far as I know, in his book talks about being on ship, opening up a drawer,

and there are the grays, as we know them, just like they're stacked up. Karen Wilkinson. This is such freaky stuff. And again, I want to say to my audience, folks, I apologize if this is too wacky. It sounds wacky, but, well, it definitely sounds wacky. But I want people to track. The book that came out, Whitley, Striber wrote a book, Streber wrote a book, came out in the and what was it called?

Called Communion. Immunion. Famous book. Huge seller about alien abductions, alien stories. It was a huge, huge thing. And I remember even at the time thinking, what is this? I don't think these people are just making it up.

No, they're not. What is this? What are we to make of this? And L.A. Marzuli is attempting to help us begin to understand it. But it is challenging stuff. If you don't believe in God and you don't believe in the Bible,

you're never going to believe this stuff. No, because this is just too kooky. But many people who believe in the Bible are not going to go here either. But I just want to be as rational and as logical as possible and just to follow the dots,

you know, and that's why I keep interrupting you because I just want to make sure we're getting it. But keep going. Okay. So the disembody spirits of an Nephilim are the demons that we're, one to the earth. The dragon knows that they can't manifest. So what does he do? He creates an avatar.

Why should that be so, see, again, the church has such a truncated view of the supernatural. So let me ask him this, who's building a new Jerusalem? That's the thing's 1,500 miles wide, 1,500 miles high. Who is building? Oh, this is so in like, who is building the new Jerusalem? Now, God could go like that. I get that, but I don't believe that. And you're looking at structural things, structural integrity that just blow your mind. Fifteen hundred miles wide. How is that possible? Where's the flaming sword that goes in between the two cherubim that are guarding the Garden of Eden? What's the flaming sword? What is that? Voo, woo, woo. It's a one. You're leaping around a little bit. Go back. I'm pleased to who builds the new Jerusalem.

In the heavenly realm, there is technology. There is absolutely technology. Book of Ezekiel. The angels show up with two slaughter weapons. What are the slaughter weapons? So, again, we have this, we think we see a picture that's this big, you know, the little tiny part where the picture is huge. The dragon, Satan knows he's got demons. He knows he's got a workforce, an army, but he needs to have the manifest. What does he do?

He creates avatars. Whitley Streber talked about it. Karen Wilkinson talked about it. And the book that we published, Stolen Seat Evil Harvest, that's right there. A lot, but a lot of the folks listening to us right now, they're not familiar with these names or any of this stuff. And that's why I want to keep pulling you back. So, on the one hand, there's a disconnect here because of where I'm getting confused. You said that the Nephilim are human beings mating with fallen angels.

And you said that Nephilim have existed in the past. Correct. Do they exist today? Absolutely. Where are they? Well, people have encountered them. We have this in our film where we talk about this man's encounter, Alan Matthews, with this man's encounter, with what can only be called a hybrid entity. There's a whole film on this that we did.

Whole film on this. Where can people find all your stuff? It's la-a-marzuli.com. Everything is there. Okay. So, okay, let me back up. So we have whistleblowers in our government that say we have the bodies of the pilots that piloted these crafts. David Gras stands up in commerce and says, we have the bodies. Other people have said the same thing.

Photographs of them. So the question is, if these are avatars, then who cares? Right? But they're there. And the avatars, the demon goes into the avatar and all of a sudden the thing moves. and it's very robotic like, and this is what people talk about. When you use the word avatar, again, what do you mean? You mean a body without a spirit in it.

Correct. It's a meat suit. It's a meat suit. So the demon inhabits the meat suit, and now it can manifest in our dimension. And you're saying that Satan created these bodies to be inhabited by. Now, I don't think of Satan as being able to create in that way. Well, that's because people have a truncated view of a supernatural. He's not being anything new.

He's using pieces from other things and creating something. So he's not... That's an important point. Only God can create ex nihilo. But Satan can use the building blocks that God has created. Correct. Look, this is the deep end of the pool and it's bizarre. And I've been in this for over 30 years.

So for me, it's like I've written books. We've produced films on this. We've talked to numerous. abductees. There's a physicality. Satan's out number. I remember asking Chuck Messler. Chuck, what about, what about the breeding program? Without blinking an eye, Chuck DeSetto, Satan's out number two to one. He's building an army. Right there. He's building an army. Highbrads, the work of Dr. David Jacobs, secular historian, okay, secular historian, worked at Temple University. When he got into the abduction phenomenon, he learned this

from John Mack and others who would plow the way for him. And so he's interviewing these. abductees from all different walks of life, different racial profiles, the whole nine yards. And he thinks it's all delusional. And then the light bulb goes off after about six months. And he realizes that there's no collusion between these people that come into my office and tell me exactly the same story.

And he walked around and it days for months trying to get his head around this thing. Oh my gosh. There's a breeding program. This is all real. Well, this is, look, this is again, I'm repeating myself, but this is challenging stuff, and that's why I want to take the time to walk through it. We'll be right back, folks. I'm talking to L.A. Marzuli. You can find out everything at L.A. Marzuli.com. Don't go away.

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you know, if I were a demon or an angel or whatever, theoretically I can go anywhere I want at the speed of thought. Why do I need a craft? What the heck is that about? Well, let me ask you this. And you should go there. Your people should go there. Read Second Kings chapter, chapter six.

Read Second King's chapter six. So Elijah is there with a servant, Kahazi. They're surrounded by the Syrian army. And Ghazi thinks we're toast. So Elisha kicks him out of a tent, Lord open his eyes, what does he see? The chariots of fire all around Elisha. What is a chariot of fire?

What is a chariot of fire? So thousands of years ago, the apex mode of transportation is a chariot. The apex form of illumination at night is a fire. So you look up and you see a chariot of fire because this thing is zipping around like this all around. It's not that I don't doubt that it's possible. I still don't get it, though.

Why would, and maybe the answer is we don't know, but I'm saying that I don't, you know, I think that a lot of people would wonder why would these demonic powers need vehicles that doesn't really make easy sense to me. I would just think that they can zip around in the heavenlies, you know, as disembodied spirits. I just don't get that

why they would need vehicles why we would discover the vehicles I don't get any of that okay Eric and here's something you think about and I'll throw you a story most of us know it Daniel is praying 21 days

for the angel to get through we all know the story but no one ever asked a question why can't he just do an Ennon so the Prince of Persia is here why can't you just go around the Prince of Persia he can't do that he's got to get Michael and the boys

they fight with the Prince of Persia then it can get through so the Prince of Persia is taken out the way, can he be wounded? Conjecture on my part, you bet your boots he can be wounded. Can't be killed, can't be destroyed as an immortal being, but he can be wounded. That's why the fighting. They're not at the thumb wrestling. So the angel gets through to Daniel, then he comes back out. He can't do an end run, can he? He can't just pop in? Because somehow, dimensionally, it's protected. And the fallen guys, the bad guys, have it. So we see, we see this much of the

picture. And that's why that scripture in Daniels, so telling, because finally we get a little taste of what's really going on. And we don't understand it. Why can't the angel just do an end run around the Prince of Persia? He can't because there's a gateway there. There's a portal that's there. And that portal is run and guarded and owned by the Prince of Persian. By the way, that gateway has never been deposed.

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Other things 100 years later are going to say, you got that wrong. You can't turn lead into gold. You didn't understand. But that's kind of where we are with this stuff, is that we have anecdotal evidence. People telling us stories that you just say, doesn't seem like they're lying. And then you get the same story a hundred times. And you get so you're building a picture and you're building a case. That's what you've been doing for years.

And it's important that we take this seriously because we have enough evidence. You can't just wipe it away. Most people want to. They just want to go, you know what? I don't believe in a spiritual realm. That's just, that's dumb. That's like saying I don't believe in Adams, you know, because I can't see them. But again, right now we are at this tipping point because people in our government are talking about this.

And I see, and you've written this in your book, people are ripe for. for deception because we have all been catechized over and over and over. Yes, the book is rungs of disclosure. We've been catechized over and over and over that there's intelligent life all to the galaxies, which is complete baloney. We've all been told that angels and demons don't exist, which is complete baloney. And so everybody sort of thinks that they know stuff and then they don't. So when we come back, we'll continue the conversation with L.A. Marzili.

Folks, you can find them at L.A.Marzuli.com. Well, let's kind of walk through it, because Jesus himself warns us, it'll be like the days of Noah. Remember, 2,000 years ago, everybody knows what the days of Noah are, and no one's questioning it. Why? Because we know from the first century historian, Josephus, that the bones of the Nephalene, there's that pesky word again, are openly on display in Jerusalem, and they have

countenances that are so unlike normal human beings. So we're not part of it. Hold on. Hold on. You're telling me Joseph, Josephus. The Roman historian Josephus in the first century writes about the Nephilim. Yeah, absolutely. I didn't know that.

This is why have you on the show. Thank you. Go ahead. Well, don't. So when Jesus said, it'll be like a days of nowhere, everybody goes, oh, he's talking about the bones that we saw on the way up to the temple melt. Hey, Abraham Jr., look over there. Your great, great, great, great grandfather cleared out these giants.

They were here. Oh, and by the way, that's Goliath's head over there. I mean, that's conjecture. I'm having fun with it. But the bones of Nephileum were openly on display. So when Jesus warns us, when He returns, which immediately begs the question, where are you going? 2,000 years ago.

So when he returns, it would be like a days of Noah. What differentiates the days of Noah are the presence of the fallen angels mating with human women, creating a hybrid being known as a Nepalim? That's what differentiates it. And that was the standard, the status quo. Everyone knew exactly what he's talking about until the 4th century, where Julius Afrika shows upon the scene and invents what's known as the Sephi, theory, which is now sacrosanth in our seminaries and theological, you know, pundits and everything

else that's what they go with. He just invented this. So the sons of God become the godly line of Seth and the women of earth become a hoochie mama's a cane, but that's completely torturing the text. When did that theory come? Fourth century. Fourth century. In the fourth century. So that interpretation has a lot of people just, they go to that, and that's why they don't listen to any of this stuff we're talking about here because they go, no, no, no, we've settled. Eric, if you were going to take one event out of the Bible, you take out the co-mingling of the seeds, Genesis 315. Genesis 315, the seed of the dragon will be at war with the seed of the woman, the one coming from the woman, the seed, the predole evangelium,

crush the dragon's head, dragon will bruises go. It's the whole Bible. It's the whole Bible. And it's not taught them. The churches for the people perish for lack of knowledge, but that's it. It is a seed war. The Antichrist is literally the seed. of the dragon. It is Rosemary's baby. Is he walking around more of unlikely, but who knows?

We don't know that. And I'm not going to wait into that deep end of the pool. But the seed war is real. The seed of a dragon, the offspring of the dragon. Look it up for yourself. The offspring of a dragon will be at war with the offspring of the woman. Three chapters later, Genesis 6, we get the Nephilim walk in the earth, which results in the flood. Then you get the Tower of Babel. What happens there? Nimrod becomes Gaborum through ritualistic sex magic. This is very intense. off. Excuse me. You're kind of leaping ahead. I know. I know. What did you just say? Say that again at the Tower of Babel. Because I actually want to understand this. At the Tower of Babel. When you look it up, I wrote about this in the Cosmic Chess Match. Nimrod. Nimrod. Nimrod opens himself up to the

demonic, to the demonic realm. He becomes Giboral. He changed. His DNA is changed. Where's that? Where's that? I'm lost. Where's that? It's right in there. I, I, I, I, I, I forget the exact chapter, but it's only a few chapters after Genesis 6. But it says, I want to find a Bible. Let me find it. Near me right now. All on. Nimrod became a great warrior.

Nimrod became Giborum. Because I'm, you know, again, you're making these leaps. It's like, wait, I want to hear that. Genesis 10. Geborah. Okay. And it says what? Genesis 10, 8 and 9.

And it says what? It says Nimrod is described as the first on earth to be a Gabor, a mighty one, warrior, often interpreted as a giant, tyrant, a warlord. So the late Tom Horne wrote about this, I wrote about it in Cosmach. It's once again, he's taking on the persona, which is not human. Let me just jump ahead, okay? Why is it that if you take the mark of the beast, you wind up the molyka fire? Is there grace and mercy there?

Why is it? You take the mark of the beast, Revelation. So we've gone from Genesis. Now we're at the end of the book. You take the mark of the beast and it's literal. So you wind up in the lake of fire. There is no grace and mercy because your genetics are somehow changed. Same thing happened way back then with Nimrod. Somehow Nimrod's genetics are changed. So he becomes a gibor. A mind. Is this why people were freaking out about the MRNA injections? Look, I stay clear of that stuff. And I'm not going to, I'm not even going to wait into that. That's a lot. another three-hour conversation we don't have time for. But the short answer to that is absolutely yes. Absolutely. I mean, that's what people were saying. They were saying, oh, I'm not saying I agree with it. I don't know anything about it, but I remember hearing people talking about that. All right, we're going to go to another break. Well, folks, go to L.A. Marzuli.com. I think we need to be educating ourselves here a little bit. We'll be right back. I don't like alarmism. I don't like fearmongering. I especially don't like people.

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like almost a year ago about your book, The Rungs of Deception. Rungs of Disclosure. I'm sorry, rungs of disclosure, which you're holding in your hand right there. You, do you have a sense we're at some tipping point here? Because it is a weird thing to have members of Congress actually talking about this, to have Robert of Kennedy Jr. talking about it to a journalist friend of my families. That's interesting to me. Well, we are. We are definitely at a tipping point.

I mean, Trump's already announced that they're going to start showing. us things. Anapolino Luna has hinted at it. Timberchek has said it. Okay, and what's the point of them showing us things? First of all, I would guarantee you that none of the people you've mentioned, including the president, really understands this in the way that we're discussing. No, they don't, most people don't frame it in a theological way. Some people do. Billy Hollowell has got a new film coming out, which sort of, you know, pushes back against the prevailing narrative. but we have 10 films on this, everything from close encounters

of the first, second, third, and fourth kind. And by the way, that's called the Combergas UFO. That's real. It's the best UFO footage I've ever seen. It went on for hours, and we've got the original footage of it. You can see the entities inside the craft. So we broke the story on that.

So, you know, cattle mutilations, crop circles, abductions, it's all part of the same thing. It's all cooked up in Hell's Kitchen. We are close to some sort of a tipping point where they will, And let me just jump over to Stevens Billbrook's film. It is absolutely crafted in ways that are just mind-boggling.

Which film? The new one, Disclosure Day. You thought I knew about that? You thought my audience knew about that? No, it hasn't been released yet, but I've commented scene-by-seen all the trailers. And at one point, in E.T, he had the finger of God, except it's E.T. going like this, right?

Yeah. So he's using iconic images from, Michelangelo is Sistine Chappel. I'm his deliberate. Same thing in this new film. He's got the little girl's hand like this, and the other hand, they're like this. But so the point is,

I always remember there is one episode of The Simpsons where Mr. Burns, my favorite character, something happens to him, and they think that he's been abducted by aliens or something, and he comes back and he's glowing,

and he says, I come to bring peace, Peace, you know, it's the thing that we all have heard a billion times. These aliens are coming with this advanced civilization and they come to bring peace and wonderful technology and we should trust them. And we should not trust them. They are not well-meaning aliens from another galaxy. They're demonic entities.

But I guess, you know, it's a little confusing to think how close we are to hearing about this stuff. I never thought in my lifetime I would hear members of Congress talking about this. Well, they are, and they've got the bodies, and they've got the craft, and they back-engineered it. All this is a matter of a public record. I mean, it's there. What do you mean they've back-engineered it? You think they've made sense of how these craft are propelling themselves?

Absolutely. Absolutely, they have. Absolutely. Look at the work of Babazar, and that's decades ago. Yeah, there's stuff flying around. That's some of back-engineering stuff that we have, but then there's the stuff that's not back-enderinger stuff. engineered. So it's very, look, it's very complex. And I don't have all the answers. I'm claiming I do. But I've been in this for decades, and this is it. And the last rung on the

ladder of disclosure, and I talk about this in the book. So they can roll this thing out. Our government can roll this thing out. Witnesses can come forward. We can see film and pictures of all the craft and all the stuff, the bodies. See all that. But that's not disclosure. That's disclosure on one level. Disclosure will happen. This is conjecture. You're going to have a nuclear event, Eric, that happens somewhere on the planet. There's going to be a nuclear event, which creates the greatest climate of fear that humanity has ever experienced collectively. That's when they show up, because every eye will be looking at the internet. Every eye will be going, what are we going to do? Are we all going to die and they're going to blow us all up?

That's when they jump on. Folks, in case you're just tuning in, Jesus is the answer. We'll be right back. Folks, this is important. If Medicare has you confused, if you've got questions, we understand, and this is why we recommend our friends at Chapter, they're there to help you to kind of talk you through what might work best for you. This is very important that you get it right. You can call them at 571-421-1253. These are our friends at Chapter 571-4-7-1-4-2-1-2-3. These are our friends at Chapter 571, 421, 1253. Welcome back. I'm talking to L.A. Marzuli.

So L.A., I said at the end of the last segment, just in case anybody's heart fails for fear. Ladies and gentlemen, Jesus is the answer. Okay? That's a fact. That is a fact. So the tendency to be fearful, whatever, it's natural tendency, but Jesus wants us to put our trust in him. not to be afraid, not to believe demonic lies either, even though they may be temporarily comforting, they're going to be very uncomforting in the long run.

But this is, it's undeniably difficult dark stuff, L.A., and you've been in this for years. Have you ever seen physical evidence of Nephilim? Yeah, I was at a, I was at an undisclosed location, and I had been tipped off that there was a secret room with a long table at this well-known restaurant.

So I got into the secret room at the well-known restaurant. Yeah, I knew there was a secret room in the restaurant and there were artifacts in the restaurant. So I've discovered, I've found, the artifact I was looking for. It's like a 28-pound axe head. A stone.

It's huge. It's like, well, it's huge. It's like, I can't even show you because of the, you know, the film was cropped here. 28 pounds. I held it in my hand. I did a whole report on it.

Large lances. We actually had one in our possession. We call it the Nephilim lance, which was found up in Lake Michigan area. It weighs 28 pounds, roughly. It's about three feet long, and it's a lance. And the Native Americans talk about these giants, the Nephalem, red-haired six-finger giants,

coming in and running the lance through the Braves. So we have two artifacts that I can I can talk about, you know, for sure. But then you go to other sites, like places like Soxie Waman down in Peru. And we're told, well, you know, the Inca were a master stonebuilders. There's a problem with that. The stone we show us in one of our films. The stone is Andesite.

And the Inca have a copper chisel. When you take a copper chisel and hit it one time, one time, it immediately dulls the edge. So it's no longer sharp. So if you can't cut amicite stone, then quit lying to us and tell us that the Inca didness, because obviously they didn't. And we are surrounded, Eric, we are surrounded, like with this stuff. I mean, surrounded with it. Do you think, I wasn't prepared to go here, but do you think that the pyramids or things like

that have been built by, let me guess, you've got a book on the subject? No, go ahead. Okay. This is what's underneath the pyramid. So this is what the pyramids look like, right? That's the Coffrey period pyramid, but underneath it, these go down 2,100 feet underneath the earth. I've heard about this. How do we know this?

Well, because I've interviewed the scientists who did it. They had multiple satellites traveling over the Giza Plateau, and it's like ground penetrating radar, except it's much, much better. Okay, so two minutes left. Yeah. What is that for? Who built that and what is the point of that pyramid? What is going on? Okay.

In my opinion, it's Nephilim architecture, Fallen Angel technology. There was a grid system that covered the earth before the flood, which is why the flood came and wiped everything away. The pyramids go back to the flood of Noah. They are not built by the Egyptians, in my opinion. They are Nephilim technology, fallen angel, you know, fallen angel building techniques. That's what we're looking at. There was a grid that covered the planet and enslaved the planet and enslaved it. It was before the flood. Before the flood. And guess what? The grid is back, except we help build it. And what do you mean by that, sir? Well, we're on the grid right now, aren't we? And when

you have a nuclear event that goes off anywhere on the planet, it creates the greatest climate of fear, collectively we all see it. Why? Because we're all on the grid. Right, because we have the technology to be connected, interconnected, globally. I know I've hopped around a bit. I mean, that's why

we've got 34 films and 15 books. I mean, we've scratched the surface. I would, you know, there's so much information. And we jumped over to the pyramid, but there you go. Well, I had to ask that. I'm sure people are wondering that when you talk about, you know, this kind of stuff. Fallen angel technology.

Fallen angel technology. We need to get you back soon because this is a kind of a big conversation. And I want to have it, you know, slowly and logically. I understand this is very challenging for people. And I don't just want to leap around and accept stuff. I want to, you know, be thoughtful about it. It is challenging. but you how did you we just got 30 seconds left but when did you start what kicked you off into

this whole world 1988 dr id e thomas's book the omega conspiracy changed my life and is that a good book fantastic book it's a the omega conspiracy by who dr id e thomas by i d thomas by i d the omega conspiracy unbelievable well la is always wonderful talking to you very grateful for you and we'll have you back soon. We've got to keep going. Sounds good. So thank you so much. God bless you.

Look up. You're coming back. Thank you.