The Eric Metaxas Show - #121 - Sean Feucht

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

Today On The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric reacts to the media meltdown over his White House ballroom joke at the Rededicate 250 event in Washington, D.C., and explains what actually happened as Americans gathered on the National Mall to humble themselves before God. Then Eric talks with Sean Feucht about the D.C. prayer gathering, the spiritual battle unfolding in America, the attacks on public Christian witness, Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, the war in the Middle East, and Sean’s new book No Turning Back. Subscribe for clips from The Eric Metaxas Show to hear politics and culture from a Christian perspective.⭐ PRE-ORDER TODAY:Revolution: The Birth of the Greatest Nation in the History of the World📕: https://a.co/d/0ir3NlapTODAY'S SPONSORS:⭐ FREE SLAVES with CSI: https://csi-usa.org/metaxas/📢 Don’t Let the Financial Storm Destroy Your Wealth and Future!https://www.metaxasgoldira.com/⭐️ BlockTrust IRA: https://www.metaxascrypto.com/⚖️ Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: https://www.legalhelpcenter.com/🛏️ MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://www.mypillow.com/☀️ Honest, fast, and free Medicare plan guidance: https://askchapter.com/metaxas/💧 Sentry H2O: https://sentryh2o.com/

Hey there, folks. I'm back in the saddle, as it were, back in the studio in New York City. I have been everywhere. It's that Johnny Cash song. I've been everywhere, man. I've been everywhere, man. I mean, I have been everywhere. I've been Boston, Lexington, conquered Philadelphia, Washington, D.C. At the second half of today's hour, I'm talking to Sean Foyt, who was with me in DC because I was two days ago on the mall in DC for the Rededicate 250. That was a that was a wonderful event. It was a it was a wonderful event. I'm sure many of you watched it. But I'm trying to think where I've been. I was in Boston. We did a Socrates in the city retreat.

I should say I love this. I get to meet so many. of you at these events. It was a Socrates in the city retreat in Lexington, Massachusetts, walking distance from the Lexington Green, where history happened in April of 1775. It's almost unbelievable to be there. It's very moving. And we were in Concord.

And we traveled in Boston, went to Paul Revere's house. But all of that was just extraordinary, really. sometimes hard, hard to take in. I've been doing many, we're doing many Socrates in the city. And by the way,

I'm going to be talking about the ballroom in just a minute. If you, if you can hold on. But I, I just want to go chronologically because I think I've been so many places. I, I don't normally travel this much,

as you know. I travel a lot and I'll be traveling a lot, but this is particularly crazy. But basically that started out, we went to Lexington and Concord and to Boston for this. Socrates and City retreat. And we've been interviewing people. I've been interviewing people for a special Socrates and the City Revolution series. So we're doing 13 interviews with

revolutionary scholars or with scholars of the revolution. People have written books, most of which I've used in writing my book, Revolution, in case I haven't mentioned it. my book on the American Revolution. I think a friend of mine just texted me that she just received a copy of this. So I don't know if they're shipping them early, but if you pre-order the book, well, I hope I've said it,

and I hope you've done it. I hope if you haven't pre-ordered the book, please pre-order the book. If you do it through my website, Ericmataxis.com, we can send you a PDF so you can read it that way immediately. but in writing this book,

I felt indebted to many scholars and some of them are no longer alive, but many of them are, and I've been interviewing them. So when I was in Washington, in Boston, I interviewed three men whose books were very valuable to me in writing this book. One of them is the great Nathaniel Philbrick.

What a dear man and what a great writer he is. And what a privilege. I've interviewed him on this show some years back, but to read his books on the American Revolution and to use them in writing my book, that was great. So to get to have a conversation with him, we focused around George Washington principally. All of this, if you were not

signed up for the Sokneys and the city emails, please, folks, because we're now doing one a week. We're doing one a week. I don't know how we're doing that, but I guess I've been busy. So I interviewed Nathaniel Phil Brick about George Washington, basically. We talked about Benedict Arnold.

I interviewed Iris Stahl, who has written an amazing biography of Samuel Adams. Samuel Adams is one of the heroes of the revolution. I won't spoil it for you now, but when you read my book Revolution, you will see Samuel Adams. He's the man, the man of the revolution. He made it all happen. So I interviewed Iris Stahl about his biography on Samuel Adams. and I interviewed, my first interview was with William Hazel Grove, who will have on this program to talk about other books he's written. Great writer wrote a book about Henry Knox.

Again, hard for me not to be excited about all this stuff, about people getting to know what I have gotten to know. I'm so excited about sharing it. So those are the interviews that I did in Boston. Then I flew from Boston to Philadelphia. and in Philadelphia interviewed two other scholars who've written books on the American Revolution

and I interviewed them in Carpenter's Hall which is the building where the first Continental Congress met. Again, almost unbelievable to be in the building, to be in the room where Benjamin Franklin is hanging out

with, I didn't realize initially that Franklin had been there, but Franklin was there, in 1775 meeting with Silas Dean, I guess, and others sort of secret French envoys before the French went public about supporting us. So incredible history. And in that room, I interviewed Christian de Spina, Spina, Christian de Spina, who has written a seminal book, a great biography of the great Dr. Joseph Warren. So all this will be available on some.

Lockerty's in the city, and I really exhort you. These are great interviews. I mean, these are great scholars talking about these heroes of the revolution. Again, I write about them in my book, but that can't compare to an hour conversation where I get to ask all kinds of questions. And then I interviewed Mark Scousen about Benjamin Franklin. Mark Scousen, who he's been on this show before, I talked about the book, but he is a direct descendant of Benjamin Franklin.

It's just incredible. So we did all those interviews. Then I came home briefly and then blasted off to Washington, D.C., where I interviewed yesterday, Oz Guinness, about his book called The Magna Carta of Humanity, where he talks about what I talk about, and I talk about it endlessly, and I write about it in my book, The Sinai Covenant, the idea that the founders got to the book. their idea of looking directly to God with no king. They got that idea from Sinai, from Exodus, Deuteronomy, the Israelites in the wilderness,

looking directly to God, making a covenant with God. And Osgenus, in his book, explains that in my conversation with him. He explains that. And if you want to know, where did Eric get that from? I got it from Os Guinness. Just like I got the Golden Triangle of Freedom idea from Oz Guinness. Ginnis. I started Socrates in the city 26 years ago because of Oz Guinness. He's a dear, dear friend and brother in Christ, and I love him. So we've been doing all these Socrates and

city interviews. And then last night in Washington, D.C., we had our first Washington, D.C., Socrates book club. And I read, I've never done this before, I read the introduction and the first chapter of my book on The Revolution allowed to a room of, I guess there were 30-something people in the room. Kind of a funny thing to read your book aloud to a group of people kind of put you out there because, you know, you're wondering what they, what are they thinking?

And fortunately, it went well. But if you're interested in starting a Socrates and City Book Club anywhere, anywhere. I want to make clear, folks, if you do this, you get the books for free. We got a grant from the Grace and Mercy Foundation. You get the books for free. You get a stipend for, you know, some food.

It's kind of an amazing thing, but it's about building community and Socrates and City is launching this now. We're doing book clubs all across the country. So we had one just last night in Washington, D.C. saw some old friends there, some new friends. But anybody who wants to do one of these, if you want to do one of these,

or you know somebody wants to do one of these. You want to do them in a beautiful home or you want to do them in an office or you want to do wherever you want to. You do what you want to do. But go to the Socrates City website, contact us. And no kidding. You know, there's a number of books that you can choose from,

but you get the books for free. What's not to love about that? I don't know. I'm kind of amazed that we get to do this, but they're launching all over the country. And so go to Socratesinth city.com. When I come back, I want to tell you about my,

comments on the mall in Washington. It was kind of crazy. Tomorrow we've got John Zmirak on the program. We've got Sean Foyt coming up today later this week. I don't even remember who I have coming up this week. Anyway, and I have to say just so sad that my friend Joni Lamb passed away and my friend James Robeson passed away. It's and my friend Greg Locke lost his 20-year-old son.

A lot of people going to glory, but that's what it's all about. We'll be talking tomorrow with John Smirak about James Robison, whom he knew very, very well. And when we come back, I will explain to you my comments on the mall in D.C. What happened? It really was very hot. but it was very joyous to see so many people committing themselves, humbling themselves publicly before God for the sake of the nation. The president read from the scriptures, the whole thing.

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So I was privileged, before we get to the Silly, I was privileged to speak on the mall in Washington, D.C. This was on Sunday. I spoke at 1230. It was very hot, and there were many august persons there. So I felt very privileged to be included. and I was asked to speak on the history of the American Revolution, of course, because of my book.

I was asked to speak about the miracle of the escape across the East River, the retreat. I was asked to speak about the crossing of the Delaware because these are instances where people where George Washington,

where Congress, they humble themselves before God. They knew without God, this isn't going to work. And that's all through my book. And it's not Christian. history that's american history it's just true that these men uh you know whom we tend to think well of they were men of faith and that we don't just say that they really were and that's i put it in the book

because i feel like we need to know this you don't need to be person of faith yourself but you need to acknowledge that they were and that they knew that they could not succeed um in the war in the revolution or in gaining independence if they didn't turn to god so they called for a day of prayer and fasting on May 17th, 1776. And exactly 250 years later, which was two days ago, we had the same thing to humble ourselves before God. So it was beautiful and it was real. And we'll talk more about that.

But I have to say that, you know me, I have to joke around. So at the end of my remarks, I had to introduce Laura Osniz, who's going to sing the Star-Spangled Band. So I had to pivot away from the Revolution to the War of 1812. And I mentioned that, oh, yes, in the War of 1812, you know, Francis Scott Key wrote the Star Spangled Banner, and in the War of 1812, they burned parts of Washington, including the White House. And then I had to say my goofy joke. What was my goofy joke?

I go, and can you believe that in those days, the White House had no ballroom? The crowd erupted in laughter because the crowd understood, this is a joke. And I said, and we had to wait 200 years for God to raise up a man to build the ballroom. Obviously, I'm joking. the crowd gets the joke. The liberal media and the TDS host to trial, David French and others, thought I was serious.

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Please go to ericmetaxis.com. Click on the banner. Very important. Welcome back. So yes, so I cracked my joke and I'm glad that I was able to crack a joke because everybody's so serious and it's serious and that's good, but we should be able to have joy and fun. And so I cracked my joke that, you know, in 1812, it's hard to believe the White House didn't have a ballroom. Can you imagine, you know, I'm being fake, fake outrage and finally got raised up a man, 200 years later to build a ballroom as this is like a, as though this were some kind of like important thing biblically that we'd build a ballroom. I'm I mean, I am all for the ballroom and I love this president. But so I joke about this. And next thing I know, David French, who's, he's a columnist for the New York Times, very strongly anti-Trump. I've met him a few times.

He's outraged at my comment. And I thought, wait a minute, he didn't know it was a joke. Then I read another comment, outraged that Eric is saying that God ordained Donald Trump to build the ballroom. I thought, wait a minute, folks, yeah, I was joking. And the crowd knew I was joking. Like, no kidding. About, I don't know, 15 articles that I've counted as of now have been written about this Maga Pastor. Evidently, I'm a Maga Pastor. I didn't know that. My wife doesn't know that. But that's what they call me. Maga Pastor calls, says it's God's will that. that Donald Trump built the ballroom.

I still can't believe that they didn't understand it was a goofy joke. But the audience understood it. And if you look at it in context, and if you know me, I mean, I have written humor for the New York Times, The Atlantic,

the New Yorker. I was the editor of the humor magazine at Yale. If you know me, you know that I always joke around. But when it comes to Donald Trump and things like the ballroom, People have no sense of humor. It's absolutely mind-blowing as a result of this, I mean, many articles, People magazine wrote an article, CNN wrote about it, just everywhere.

As a result of that, I guess it drew more attention to the event on the mall, I hope. I think it drew attention to my book because the book broke into the top 100 on Amazon. on. So I guess that's good. But it's been a little surreal reading articles that didn't understand that this was a joke. Ann Coulter on Twitter said, you know, you ninnies, it's a joke. Eric's very funny. I know Eric. Anybody who knows me knows that I crack jokes. And the crowd got it immediately. But David French, Alex Jones did a segment on this. I don't know how do you, how do you make any sense of this? I can't make any sense of it.

It was just so crazy and funny. But the time in D.C. was wonderful. I was privileged to spend time with Lou Engel and Dutch Sheets. These are the grandfathers of the movement to pray for revival. And so to see them there, Lou Engel got on his knees and called us all to get on our knees to bow, to humble ourselves before God. that's what it was all about, folks. It wasn't about building a ballroom. How much as the unhinged leftists seem to think I was saying. It's about humbling yourself before God. And Washington did that. And he knew that if you didn't do that, he wouldn't succeed. And we're doing that in our

nation. And it's right that we do that because we're in an existential crisis as we were during the revolution. There are dark forces. I don't really need to tell you, you know. There are dark forces out there that are, they're certainly at war with the biblical view of America, this idea that this country is set apart for God's purposes, meant to be a blessing to the world. They're not on board with that. And I want to say that it was a beautiful thing to see the president read scripture, a long passage of scripture.

It was a beautiful thing to see Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, officially say we hereby rededicate this nation to God. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. And I think that we, you know, because we're in this existential crisis, we're in this war with dark forces, whether it's Islam, fascism, or Marxist, maniacs, globalists, leftists who, who, don't love this country, we need to humble ourselves and we need to praise God and humble ourselves and thank God that we get to pray for his blessing on the nation and do so. And that's what that was about. And so it was wonderful.

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As I promised or threatened, Sean Foyt is my guest. Sean, welcome back. Good to be with you, Eric. You and I were together on the mall in D.C. And it's just so, I don't know where to start. I never know where to start. It's so crazy.

I will have shared, you know, I've shared a lot of the stuff. But first of all, I want to say, on Saturday night, you had an event on the mall, obviously smaller than the monster event the next day, but still a lot of people. And what I find funny is that we were just there

to worship Jesus, and we got a picture of you, me, Greg Locke, and Mark Griskel. And the haters came out of the woodwork. And honestly, people don't know this about me. This is true. I am often just ignorant of stuff. Like I don't know like why are people so angry at you? Why are people so angry at Greg Locke?

Why are so people angry at Mark Driscoll? I genuinely don't know. And I know there are people that are even angry at me for not knowing. I guess I know why people are annoyed at me, I can guess. But it's just so funny to me. Greg Locke just lost his 20-year-old son. I just cannot imagine that he would be willing. to minister to do ministry

a week after, less than a week after, he lost his 20-year-old son. Just unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, and Eric, he was attacked viciously and blamed viciously for his own son's death. This is how sick these people are.

You know, the, you know, outrage, I call him the TMZ. Christian culture guys. You know, they, they want scandal. They want cliques. They're the Candices of the Christian culture. Candice Owens of the Christian world. Yeah.

And they have no mercy. They have no compassion, even in the midst of Greg losing his son. What a horrific thing. I mean, I was even just with him yesterday at Joni Lamb's memorial service. He just turned 50 years old yesterday. He was there at Joni's memorial service. We were talking about this season of loss that a lot. that a lot of people are going through.

A lot of people have graduated to heaven, a lot of untimely deaths. And yet in the midst of all this, God's doing a lot. So how do you, man, it's just, it's a very unique season. But I was honored to be with you, Mark, Greg, other people. There's a commonality on why so many people in this, you know, critical group. want to attack guys like us because we've been very consistent and bold from the get-go,

you know, from 2020 onwards. And we're brothers together. We got each other's backs. We got loyalty, which is something really hard to find these days. And so, yeah, I thought it was really funny in the comments and stuff. It just made me laugh. But the event, the turnout, the presence of God, the anointing, the authority that was released in the messages, like it was all so incredible.

and I was just very, very encouraged. Well, listen, when people pray, God hears the prayers. And I think that what happened on the mall the next day, that was big. There's all these people humbling themselves before God. You have the president of the United States, ladies and gentlemen, reading long passage from scripture, he didn't need to do that. That's moving to me. and I think that it is significant. I mean, when you think about

how many presidents would never have done such a thing, the fact that Trump would do that, that Trump would have Pete Hegzeth and others proclaiming their faith in Jesus, it's a wonderful, wonderful thing, I have to say. And I just, when Speaker Johnson came out, and then he says, and we hereby, it's like a legal thing, he's a member of the government, he says, we hereby

rededicate the nation to God. That's significant in the heavenlies. I believe that. Genuinely, that is significant. When Lou Engel gets down on his knees and says we humble ourselves and everybody, myself included backstage, get on our knees, humble ourselves before God. God sees that and that touches God. And so I expect things to happen as a result of, of what we did. Staples Preferred Business Membership, built for busy business owners, because you've got bigger things to think about.

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Yeah. No, I agree. I mean, I think that, you know, the media is going to spin at whatever they want. Mega gathering of whatever. You know, it's funny is that they were trying to hit on what was happening on Sunday and they kept showing pictures of us on Saturday next to the Washington Monument. They're confused between the two events. But, you know, they're going to talk about the ballroom joke, that they're going to hit on all

these, whatever. But we know in the spirit we didn't come there for anything else than to spiritually commit our nation to God. And so in the spirit, what took place was so powerful and so profound. And that cannot be undone. Yes. And so let them spin out, let them freak out and write their hit articles and do their

thing and rile everybody up. But what was done was done. And I believe it was really powerful. I agree with you. Obviously what the president said, what Speaker Johnson said, third in line to the presidency stands there and says, we dedicate America to God. It's never happened.

And so I just, what an honor to be a part of that moment. I mean, it really was. It was wonderful. When he said, we hear by, it's like a legal thing. We are officially doing this now. Yeah. And that's significant. And I think I mentioned it, but May 17th, I mean, it's funny because, you know,

my book on the Revolution, of course, is just coming out. And without intending to, when I did this story, this history of the Revolution, everywhere you turn Congress, George Washington are publicly turning to God, publicly turning to God, making proclamations that the nation has to fast and pray. And I thought to myself, because they knew that in fact they cannot succeed without God. They didn't think, well, let's just give an add on or just they knew we can't succeed without God. So they officially proclaim this is going to be a day of fasting and prayer for

the nation. That's George Washington, folks. That's the Congress, the entire Congress doing that. And so this was a reprise of that. This was 250 years after there was a day on May 17th, 1776 of fasting and prayer proclaimed. It was proclaimed in March of 1776 that on May 17th were going to do this. 250 years later, the same thing. But the leftists and the secularists, they can't bear this idea. They act like, well, we're a secular nation now. And you think, well, when did, when did that happen? How did, how did we become a secular nation? How did all of that stuff that made us who we were 250 years ago suddenly just, just evaporate? I mean, why? They really don't, they just don't like it, but they don't have an argument against it. Yeah. Well, I mean, I just, I think that God is, he's so faithful and

he's so kind. And, you know, I think back to, you know, because this was our seventh year in a row of being on the National Mall worshipping at a large event. You know, we've, I don't know that anyone, I mean, Lou Engel came up to me. He's like, no one does this more than you, you know. And so, and some of those years were very rough, pandemic years, Biden years. It wasn't necessarily the, the national temperature to have appropriate to have these kind of events, now they seem more commonplace, but there was a season there where it was like, which way is this going to go in America? Yeah.

And I mean, I am just so grateful. I mean, I think that's to me, like I just had waves of gratitude washing over me as I was standing there just thinking, man, this could have gone a totally different way. And thank God for those that dug in. Thank God for those that voted. Thank God for those that campaign. Thank God for all of you out there that are watching that should. that shared on social media that prayed

that stood in the gap on behalf of your country because God used your prayers and he's moving in the midst of them. So I'm incredibly happy coming off this weekend. And that's real. That's the thing. Is there some people that they just can't? And we just want to thank God publicly

that he has finally raised up a man to build the ballroom on the White House. That ladies and gentlemen, this is the final piece in the eschatology. Once that ballroom is built, then the end will come. It's very clear. It's in revelation. It's in revelation.

It's so funny. Sean, the thing is you and I joke a lot. Some people just don't do humor. No, it's still can't get over the fact that people took me seriously. It's ballroom theology. I don't understand what the big deal is. It's pretty common. I mean, yeah, I mean, people are ridiculous.

But the funny thing is, is they needed something to, latch on to, uh, in order to get, to get some juice going. So the, the awesome part is, is that it's, it's proliferating further clips. And so people like, oh, really? There's a crazy ballroom thing. Now people are actually looking, well, what did happen there? What happened? You know, this happened to us in COVID. It was like, oh, this guy's super spreading. This guy's getting grandmas killed. Like, who is this guy? And all of a sudden, next thing, you know, they would show up to our events. So I don't actually mind it that much. Yeah. Like, I kind of think it's cool. Like, I kind of I'm like, the more that they can talk about a worship and prayer event in the daily beast,

the more happy I am. And I'm glad to know that I am a maga pastor who made a bonkers claim about it's being God's will that the ballroom. I mean, I'm reading this. I'm thinking, so when did I become a maga, am I a pastor? I don't, I didn't know that I was a pastor. Maybe check with my wife, because maybe some papers came in and I didn't realize that I've been ordained as a pastor.

We're going to be right back. I'm talking to Sean Foyd. Sean, what's the name of your new book? It's called No Turning Back. Okay. When we come back, we're going to talk about the new book, No Turning Back. Sean Floyd, if you can't spell his name, join the club.

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Sean, can we talk about you ran for Congress in California some years back. You're very involved politically. while we were at dinner the other day, you're like, you're texting with your buddy, the speaker of the house, and you get Lauren Bobart on FaceTime, and I confronted her very boldly, and she wept. That's not true.

She defended her decision to back Thomas Massey. Do you have any, can you help my audience? I'm so lost. I'm hopeless on this stuff. Yeah, it's convenient to be hopeless on that issue, isn't it, Eric? I am totally. I'm not hopeless.

I am so ignorant. I don't know. I am very simple. I've said it before. I think you should stand with the president. And I don't like it when people don't. I just think unless you have a very, very good reason, you know. I think that, you know, there's, you know, there's obviously this, this concept of Israel buying out American politicians.

And, you know, there's only there's, there's so few that are willing to stand up against the machine and whatever. And I get like having, you know, being independently minded and and and being willing to to push against the grain i think that that's that's that's that's an amazing thing i don't what i don't understand is always always always always always always going against your own party i think that that repeated nature of that gets him into the position that he's in right now and then other pulls in others along with that you know where do you stand with him and it kind of just fractures things. I mean, you saw, you see that with, um, not just with, you know, Massey and his race. You see that with Corny and Paxton and

Trump obviously just endorsed Paxton, who's a friend of mine as well. And then, yeah, that's, that's, that's, it's really, it's really big news. And then you have Cassidy. And Paxton. Big deal. Big deal. Yeah. You have Cassidy that was just kicked out, you know, because he voted to impeach the president. So, you know, and, in, and a lot of ways, these are, these are kind of big tests. It'll be interesting to see what happens today. And I think either way, sadly, I want to say either way, it feels like the left kind of wins a little bit in each situation. Because, you know, if he loses, you know, they win because, you know, the people win against the president. If he wins, the left wins because it shows a further fracturing of the coalition.

So I don't know if either is good. and I know that there's good people, you know, there's people caught up in it. And it's just politics, man. Well, I really am ignorant of some of this stuff. I'm a simple man. I think that, you know, I trust President Trump's instinct. And it feels very strongly about something.

It's hard for me to understand why Lauren Bobert, whom we know, would take a stand against him in that way. I'm just not sure what she sees at stake. Yeah, I mean, you have to have her come on that for the show for that. But, you know, she's a loyal friend. And I think that that's probably part of where she's torn, you know. And, you know, I guess you got to know, I guess you got to know to pick and choose your battles. And this is one that she felt like she needed to choose.

So as long as she is willing to agree with my exegesis that. scripture is clear the ballroom needs to happen. That's very clear. I think we could get her. I think we could get her on the record to discuss that for sure. We're in the season of the ballroom. I think that's just clear. There are different epics.

And we've entered that season. It's not just the ballroom either. You need to talk about the, you know, the military bunker installation thing, all the stuff they're putting below it too. Underneath the ballroom. Yes. That's right. And I believe Melkitt.

Zizadek is going to live down there, according to what I've been reading. They got the heifers down there. The heifers, and there's a lot of UFO technology. They've reverse engineered some stuff. They're going to build some pyramids on the National Mall. It's very exciting and insane. And could we get serious for a second? Okay, you're holding a book.

You have a book out. What's your book about? So it's called No Turning Back. And basically, I felt like the Lord, I don't write, I'm not, It's this crazy prolific author like you that just has books coming out of your whatever. I only write them when I really feel like, okay, there's a word that I feel like I'm carrying, that I need to release. And that word for me, about a year and a half ago, was on spiritual warfare.

And I was realizing that people were facing things. And all of a sudden there was this, it's kind of this realization that's coming up. And I think we saw it when, you know, we saw the president's head tilt at the last second, you know, the millimeter miracle. We were like, oh, my gosh, there's places. There's forces at work here. People are coming awake to the understanding of powers and principalities. We're in a spiritual battle. I mean, even Elon Musk commented on something where I was talking about, on my tweet, when I was talking about, you know, that this is a propaganda war.

This is a war of the mind. a battle for the mind. We're going to be right back talking to Sean Foyt. Welcome back talking to Sean Foyt. Sean, you're saying that what I think a lot of people are seeing, things are particularly crazy. It seems like the spiritual warfare has ramped up and people need to be awake.

Yeah. We're in a spiritual war. They're crazy things happening. We're seeing insane things. I mean, what happened to Tucker and Candice going nuts. Well, what happened in the wake of the most viewed assassination, probably in all of human history that went around the world and back.

And in the wake of that, we saw this incredible moment of unity. Churches coming together. People were turning back to faith. And then the devil came in with controversy and division and suspicion. And this is spiritual people. This is what I'm trying to tell you. It's all spiritual. And so anyway, all that to say,

I wrote about this from a personal context, from personal context, theological context, revival history context, about how to navigate this world that we're living in right now as people of God in the spiritual realm. And so anyway, I just really believe this is going to carry a lot of tools to help people. In the end, you could call it the end times. Joel, the prophet Joel called it the great and dreadful day of the Lord. Obviously, I'm an optimist. I focus on the great part.

But it's insane. Wars, rumors of wars, false prophets, you know, slandering, unparalleled amounts of persecution. I was with the church in Nigeria, you know, a month ago, 45,000 Christians martyred this year alone in that nation. I talk about all that, assassinations, everything. And how in the midst of that do we become the people living as a faith, witness until the last day, you know, that's the subtitle. How do we live faithfully and serve God

and not lose our minds, basically? So anyway, that's the heart of the book. It's out today. I'm honored that you would let me come and share about it. Well, yeah, I mean, it's what you're talking about. I think one of the things is that, I mean, look, we're all flawed. None of us has everything perfect. But I feel like we are at a time where if you don't recognize, recognize the gravity of what's going on. Things are, have been difficult. And you need to have courage. And there are a lot of people, they're not up for the courage thing. They kind of, they believe what they believe, but they're sort of, you know, they want to be sort of nice Christians or something like that. And I, and I think that if you're in a war with the devil, you have to

be realistic and understand that you're in a war with the devil and he wants to attack us. And the level of division and viciousness. I've never seen anything like the division. People attacking, people, friends attacking friends, viciously. I don't know what to make of it. I mean, I genuinely don't know what to make it. I know it's not nice.

I don't like it. It's all Matthew 24. I mean, it's all in this book, but it's all in the book. You know, I mean, this is the context of the rolling out of the last days that Jesus tells us. There is going to be all of this and more. And I tell people like, buckle up Buttercup.

I mean, you pick a war with Iran. This is biblical proportion stuff. Yeah. This is matters of this is the prince of Persia. This is the power and principality. This is an ideology. This is not like an easy thing. So we're in it now.

Well, see, this gets back to, I didn't share with you. I don't think that I had a, I keep saying a vision. It's not a vision. It actually happened where I saw a hawk with a dove and its talons. This is a couple months ago. And it was a chilling thing. I thought, is that a sign? It was like, it really seemed like a sign from the Lord.

And then the next day, I mentioned it to my wife, Suzanne, the exact, she saw the exact same thing in New York City. And you think, what is God saying? And, you know, you want to be humble and you must say, Lord, you have to guide me. but I think we could settle on this. God wants us to depend on him. He wants us to look to him. What that was about on the mall, when they were May 17th, 1776,

they humbly bowed before God and said, we know without you, we cannot succeed. We humble ourselves. We ask you to help us, Lord. Show us how to fight, to fight your way to honor you because this is your back. And I think that that's what a lot of Christians need to hear is that this is God's battle.

And our job is to humble ourselves before him, rejoice in him, trust in him. If you don't do that, you're going to lose or you're certainly not going to win. Sean, we just got seconds left. Final thoughts. Final thoughts, man. You got to stay ready. Stay prayed up. Grab the book, Amazon, wherever my website.

But get in the book. What's your website? You can go to let usworship.us.usworship.us.us. But get in the book, not just our books. Get in the book. Get in the word. Return back. These are amazing days.

These are amazing days of revival, intense days of darkness. God wins in the end. God bless you, my friend. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks.