The Eric Metaxas Show - #142 - Steave Deace

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Today On The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric talks with Steve Deace about his new children’s book Why Independence Day? America Is Great Because God Is Good. They discuss America’s Christian heritage, the biblical roots of the founding, the Sinai covenant, Deuteronomy, Providence, secular revisionism, the cultural hijacking of American history, anti-Semitism on the right, Christian Zionism, the UK, Islam, and why America’s future depends on recovering the truth about God and liberty.⭐ ORDER NOW:Revolution: The Birth of the Greatest Nation in the History of the World📕: https://a.co/d/0ir3NlapTODAY'S SPONSORS:⚖️ Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: https://www.legalhelpcenter.com/🛏️ MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://www.mypillow.com/☀️ Honest, fast, and free Medicare plan guidance: https://askchapter.com/metaxas/

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My guest is the host of the Steve Dase show And yes, his name is Steve Dase Coincidence, you tell me Steve Dase, welcome back It's good to see you brother And congrats, man. I'm ecstatic to see The success of your new book on the American Revolution

That's just a tremendous days So good news for the country, frankly, not just you It is good news for the country That's the real point, right? It's not about a book. This is the thing. And I think people who follow you and follow me understand, we do what we do because we care about what God cares about. We love America.

And we want to do what we can do to help. And that's why we write books. That's why we do our programs because we actually care about this stuff. We're in a war against evil by God's grace. He gives us the ability to fight. And I do feel that getting the story of America out in my own book is so important because how many people in America do not know it. People who would even agree with it.

You know, Christians, conservatives, who they bought this, you know, secularist nonsense that's been shoved at them forever. So I'm actually hopeful. Now, you, sir, have a book out, a children's book. I would never stoop to writing a children's book. I've only written 30 of them, and that's enough. But I, I, you have a children's book out

called Why Independence Day? America is great because God is good. First of all, congratulations on the book. I know it's doing very well. But, you know, what prompted you to write this book? You've written other children's books as well. Well, I had a publisher come to me right around the time that Faucien Bargain was number one on Amazon. And this was shortly after Rush passed away as well.

and this publisher said, hey, you know, Rush had a ton of success with those Rush Revere books, American History for Kids. Would you, you know, consider trying to, you know, fill those shoes? I'm like, no, because no one can, right? I mean, to quote the great Larry Holmes, can't carry my, I mean, I couldn't carry his jockstrap, okay? So that was never going to happen. But I thought about it for a day or two, and I came back and I said, what if we tried something a little more distinct from Rush? What if we did America's Christian or Christian heritage for kids? And I gave them a three book trilogy, starting with Y Thanksgiving, which was a national bestseller in 2022. And then Y Easter in 2024.

And then we always planned for Y Independence Day to come for the 500 or for the 250th here in 2026. And what I think is fascinating, though, when you go and look, and you know this from all the children's books you've written, Eric, these are huge undertakings, right? I mean, the time it takes to draw them and everything else. So this book's been done for a year. The text of it has been waiting for it to be drawn. When you read the book, and I point out that America's 250th birthday is an event

3,000 years in the making. And I answer the question as to why Moses is depicted throughout Washington, D.C., for example. Where did these laws of nature and nature's God come from? Well, they came from Mount Sinai. And I walk through all this history of why we use terms like Judeo-Christian, for example, I had no idea when this book's text was finished, that we would be sitting here in the moment on the American right that we currently are, entertaining the widespread mainstreaming of anti-Semitic tropes.

I just had no idea. And what's funny, though, when you read this book, you're going to think that I wrote this children's book directly to challenge those heterodoxies, and nothing could be further from the truth. They weren't really on the horizon yet. And so that's, you know, you never know God's providential timing. You never know. No, it's funny you say that because I feel the same way about my own book. I mean, here I am talking about the Sinai covenant, you know. And of course, I learned this from our dear friend

Oz Guinness, but the idea that all of the founders, every one of them, including the ones we say are not that religious like, oh, Jefferson and Franklin, they all got the narrative. We're going back to Sinai. We're going to look directly to God without an earthly King, that's the narrative. And that has been wiped away from American history books. And it is so, it's funny because it's not just important, it's central.

That's the whole idea. And they all understood it back then. And so many of us don't know it today. Even, you know, people who are Christians and conservatives are unaware of this stuff. So it's just so important. And obviously, I write about it to some extent,

but you really are speaking. it to kids and to the parents who read the kids' books, it's central that we know this stuff. Now, when did you learn all these things yourself? What is your story with regard to understanding this? Well, you know, I'm 52. I was the last generation. We Gen Xers were really the last ones that still had Christmas programs, Easter break. A lot of the, I lived all over the country, but my, you know, high school years were in West Michigan, which at the time was the most church, Kent and Ottawa County, Michigan's were at the time the most churched twin

counties in the United States of America. And so, you know, I grew up sort of in the final stages of America as it used to be before postmodernism and deconstructionism really went mainstream. And then a lot of it just came just

from my own study. I was always very fascinated with this kind of stuff. And it's funny, if you read a lot of history books written before 1960, it's amazing. what you're going to learn. American fact. And then, I mean, they all pretty much, regardless of which university you read them from, I mean, every American history book from 1960 is going to sound an awful lot like, you know, your book or mine. If you, you know, when I was a little kid, we used to run this, a second, it used to be the twin program with the Thanksgiving,

the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving special. And it was the story of the pilgrims that Charles Schultz did. And if you go back and watch that, that was on network television for 25 years. That reads a lot like the history that you see in the first book of this trilogy, Why Thanksgiving. So a lot of this was really just imbued as part of the overall history and understanding of the culture. And the last generation we've undergone really a cultural hijacking. And so in some respects, I kind of call what we're doing a little bit like we're historical reformers. you know, if you look at the Protestant Reformation,

there's a reason they called themselves the reformers, not the replacements. That a lot of what they wanted to do, what does it mean to reform, to form again? That a lot of what they wanted to do was to go back to an Augustinian understanding of Christianity prior to a lot of the mysticism and things that took over throughout the Middle Ages of Catholicism. I mean, if you look at Luther himself, I mean, the spark of the Reformation, he was an Augustinian monk. So if you look at a lot of the doctrines that the reformers wrote about, and extrapolated upon. A lot of it would just look like what post-Augustin Christian,

the understanding of Christianity looked like for like the next four or five hundred years before a lot of mysticism. And so I think a lot of what we are arguing here is, it was pretty commonly just taught in schools and discussed in mainstream culture of America really prior to the 1960s. When we look at the headlines coming out of Iran and Israel right now, the fog of war is real. It's hard to know whom to trust. That same feeling of confusion. often hits home when you're trying to navigate Medicare. There are so many bad actors in this space looking to capitalize on confusion rather than provide clarity.

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You realize like we are way off. And if we don't get back, we're dead. We've got to go back. We've got to figure out like where were we? What happened? You know, it's kind of like return to your first love. If you don't do that, it's over. And what amazes me is this happens over and over, right?

Because it's human nature to drift away from the truth. And when you think about, I mean, I always. I think I write about it in my book that in 1860, you have Henry Wadsworth Longfellow writing this spectacular poem, Paul Revere's ride, to look back to 1775. And he's doing that in 1860 as they're going into the second existential crisis in American history, that we have to know where we came from. We have to know what it's all about right now. We need to revisit that.

And I think we're in that moment now again, that if we don't, don't understand who we are, who were meant to be. And as you said, every American understood this stuff. If you put a microphone in somebody's face in 1960, hey, you know, who was Paul Revere and tell me the story of Lexington and Concord and tell me the story of the founders. Every American knew this. This was basic, basic stuff. It was all understood. This narrative was just part of who we were. When you talk about Thanksgiving, that was just understood until. fairly recently. Now, you know and I know that there've always been forces kind of infiltrating over the decades, but it doesn't really gain ground until recent years so that we actually

have to really explicitly explain what happened, where we've come from, how the founders thought of this. But I mean, the Sinai covenant, the fact that all of these men were looking back to the Israelites in the wilderness, you would think that every, you'd think that every American would know that, right? Like it says, it doesn't really even get more basic than that. That's about as basic as it gets. I mean, if you look at a lot of the language of our founding documents, Charlie used to point out that if you look at the collection of the founder's writings, no single work is quoted more than Deuteronomy. What's Deuteronomy mean? Giving of the law, the second giving of the law. What is the set, what is the scene of Deuteronomy?

This is the end of Moses's life, the end of his ministry. All right, they're on the, they're on the banks of the promised land. It concludes with Moses's farewell address, right? And he is laying out now that we are a covenant people of God. Here is what the character of the people is expected to be under that covenant, right? And he closes with the famous words. I've said before you, you know, blessing and cursing, life and death, choose life so that you may live in the land. Our founders were trying to emulate this as best as they could in a civic sense, understanding, and they understood better than any previous generation of humans post-Reformation. This is really the first era, post-reformation. They truly understand the limitations of human nature. And so they understand that there's a bit

of a there's a bit of a paradox here. On one hand, they are saying that no power should not be concentrated in the hands of a select magistrate or even an oligarchy because we're all sinners. But at the same time, then, therefore, saying, but we're going to create a system where the wider populace governs themselves, even they're all sinners too, right? And so there's a balance here, right? That's why they use, they're arguing for limited government. What is limited to what? What's the limiting principle? Limiting to what the laws of nature and nature's God said is the role of government. in our lives. Where do they get this from biblical teaching? Why did they emulate the Old Testament? Because it's the one and only time that we see God choose a nation into himself, form a nation

unto himself, and therefore put creeds and customs and laws into the code to give us an idea, therefore, of what is to be good, true, and beautiful to be conserved and preserved all throughout the course of history. And so that's what they were trying to emulate. I take it to the last paragraph of the Declaration. Thomas Jefferson writes, we now, then we appeal to the Supreme ruler or the supreme judge of the universe for the rectitude of our actions. Now, why do they conclude it that way? What's the word rectitude mean? Well, it's a fancy word for motivations. All right, fealty is what we're doing the right thing here. And so they're doing this because they understand that there's a tension even within them. You have certain Anabaptist sects like the Quakers and

others that are saying, hey, Romans 13 means we can't ever rebel against any human authority whatsoever. So they're debating this amongst themselves. That's why they list all these charges. against the king. They're saying, hey, he is urging us to live contrary to what God, the state that God calls us to live in. But then they conclude by saying, if we're wrong, if this revolution is setting a terrible example for the world, and this is not the path forward, if we have not rightly divided your word here, if we're on the wrong side of history, which is really your story and not ours, then judge this. Don't let it be successful. That's the closing argument of the declaration very emblematic of what Moses is saying hey this is what is expected of you for this

to work and god will judge you if you do not live up to those expectations they are writing with an expectation that that will happen right there with an assumption that that will happen and and think of the humility involved in this they are humbling themselves before god and saying lord if we're getting it wrong don't let us win that's unbelievable i mean that is so magnificent and again Anybody who wants to pretend like Thomas Jefferson is not on board with this stuff, it's just, it's absolutely amazing to me how clearly biblical this is. I have some lines in my book, I should memorize them, but where Samuel Adams calls what they're doing is this is the Protestantism of government, like the reformation continues now

in how we are trying to order our liberties and create a nation based on God's idea of what nation should be, it's everywhere you look. And it has been pushed out and out and out. And it falls to such as you and me to do what we can, you know, to kind of correct the record and say, hey, folks, we've, we've been drifting. We need to, we need to get this. And boy, do we need to get it. Now we need to get it because so many of the elites are openly hostile to these ideas. I'm glad you used the word elites there, because I wanted to point back to this as well. The men who signed that document, this isn't a credence clearwater revival song, fortunate son.

Okay. Hey, yeah, we're, we, the rich kids get to stay behind with deferments while the poor kids go off to Vietnam, right? That's the story of that protest song.

The, the men who signed that doc, that document, those 56, I mean, John Hancock might have been the wealthiest man in the 13 colonies. He's the first guy to sign it. He's the first guy to sign it.

The, when they, so they knew that it was going to be their farms, their plantations, right? These were, this is where these battles, were going to take place.

The blood was going to flow on the land that they owned. This was not them signing up the lessors or the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, this is not a, this is not a guns of August World War I scenario where a bunch of wings of the same family, Habsburg dynasty, are having a urination match over literally nothing. And we're going to kill 90 million people for like, pretty much nothing, pretty much for nothing. We're just over a family squabble for a few years.

This is not like that at all. were the elites. These were the highest educated men, the wealthiest, most successful. When they pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honors, they knew that they were going to be the ones that were going to be on the front lines paying the price, and many of them did. I think it's important to understand that not always are elites the same, not in every era. Well, I was going to say that's, you know, when I say elites, usually I mean corrupt, hideous monsters who are elites. but you're quite right that these were, you know, it's like talking about Donald Trump. Donald Trump, you know, he's Wharton school.

He's one of the elites, but he's against the corrupt elites. He was maybe the most famous and popular celebrity in the world before he became president. That's an elite. Right. Yes, exactly. Before he became a racist xenophobic monster, as we were reminded by, hopefully, by Robert De Niro. Thank you. Thank you, Bobby De Niro for helping us understand that, yeah, he's a racist.

I forgot. I forgot. It's just amazing. It's so amazing. You say more about, you know, America is great because God is good. I think most people would say America is great because America is good or we need to be good. But you say because God is good. Talk about that. One of the words you see the founders use a lot in their writings. And I cited a lot in the book is Providence. And it was a term in their era that essentially meant the sovereign hand of God exerting its will into history. wait, Steve, I thought these guys were all deist. Some of them were, but a lot of our understanding of deism, we have to understand, we're living in a pre-Darwinian world. 1859 is a long way off, the publishing of the origin of species. And notice we always forget the subtitle of that momentous work, the struggle for survival of favored races.

I wonder what that was I could allude to later on. But we're still ways off from that. And so in the post-Darwinian world, we have been arguing how good is human nature on its own. and can it therefore be perfected? That's the progressive case and that's the argument we've been having in the West since 1859. We're not there yet.

And so we're having post, when you talk about we're bringing the reformation to government as Samuel Adam cited, we're having Protestant era disagreements and discussions. The argument of their time would have been how directly involved in creation is a sovereign God, totally opposite premise of an argument. And so

all their arguments is got kind of the deist argument is God kind of a kid with an ant hill, all right, um, and just kind of watches and observes, does God get directly involved? Do we invoke gods to get involved? Is it our faith that they would have, they would have had very common arguments that are kind of nerdy to us today, would have been common to them. Like, the argument of does faith proceed regeneration or regeneration precede faith? They would have argued about that or over pints at pubs.

That's kind of nerdy, won't have, frankly, even our evangelical audience, right? Okay. And a lot of, frankly, even our evangelical audiences won't even know what that argument even is, sadly, because of what's happened to the church in our era. And so the framework of their culture, the epistemology, the epistemological understanding or how we know what we know is true was just completely inverted paradigm from where we were today. And yet they, but they all came to this one agreement. There's no way, no chance. We are going to be the empire. The sun never sets upon the British Empire without the direct invoking of the will of God. We're outnumbered. We're

are gunned. It can't possibly win. There's no natural explanation for us to win this. So it's going to require the hand of God at work. The hand of God that you see when the Puritans land in this, across the channel, a place they've never been. And what are the odds they're going to run into a native who understands their language? Because he was taught the Bible by those who freed him from slavery named Squanto. The odds of that are literally odds of you and I getting struck by lightning about 10 times here during the middle of this conversation. You can't do that. That's cosmic level math is what that is. This is what's so funny to me is that, again, I don't claim to have known this much of this before I did my research in my book, but it's so clear that the men involved

in the revolution, they had this covenant theology that if we do right by God, he may bless us. And if we don't do right by him, he will definitely not bless us. And the British were exactly the opposite. They couldn't care less about God. It just wasn't even on their radar. They were cynical, secular elites who mocked the faith of the Americans. And that I had never really seen that so clearly in the barbarism of the British and the immorality of the British elites contrasted with our quote unquote elites who were just dedicated to virtue.

And Karen talked about it, talked about Republican virtues. and it's such a fascinating concept to me. Now, your book says why Independence Day, that's, of course, the title. What is, I mean, if somebody just says, you know, what is your book about? Is your book a story or is it a series of vignettes? What is why Independence Day?

It's the story of how we came to be. And most importantly, why, why? That there is a purpose and a destiny for this nation in particular because of that covenantal language. And there's a reason why there's been a certain amount of favor granted to this nation that no other nation post 110 AD in the end of the original Jewish system has ever been granted. There's a reason why, therefore, it's been the most gracious and benevolent nation that's ever lived. There's a reason why it's inspired freedom in so many other nations.

There's a reason why also, though, that its national sins have also been so calamitous at the exact same time, because God does walk and shoot. gum at the same time. He will hold us accountable for our sins at the same time that he will use sinful people and sinful vessels for greatness. You'll often hear people say, well, God uses troubled and problematic people. That's because there's only problematic and troubled people. We're all sinners. There's no other kind of person for God to use, right? And so God will hold us accountable for our sins, while also at the same time using sinful people to accomplish great things and his goals and and his purposes for his creation. And the beauty, you see that, you see that, work itself out in our country. They argued vehemently about the question of slavery.

You know, I work here at the Blaze with Glenn Beck. He has one of the original drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the vote was 10 to two to leave slavery in the original draft. I think it was South Carolina and I want to say Georgia, maybe was the other colony. Probably. That's right. That demanded to be taken out and they had all agreed at the beginning that it had to be unanimous or they weren't going to go forth, right? But then you can see in their wisdom, they planted the very mechanisms within their own, the constant. they would ratify later, that would then end up being how this national sin would be,

would be able to be confronted and corrected by future generations. And see, I'm not one who thinks we have to romanticize our history at all. I think, and maybe it's because I'm born to a 15-year-old mom, and I grew up in the white trash part of town, and I didn't get converted until I was 30, and I've got a, I had a long list of sins, therefore, that the Lord had to forgive me of, that I understand maybe that the realities of our history actually add to the great of it. We don't have to overly romanticize it. We don't have to pretend like we're a sinless people that we did make a bunch of mistakes. Nothing could be further from the truth because I think you actually see the providence of God that he's worked so great, so many great things through

this country in spite of those things. Just as he's worked so many great things through so many sinful people in spite of these things, I invoked Martin Luther earlier. If you looked at some of the things Luther wrote at the end of his life, if I did a bit, Martin Luther or Candice Owens, who said this. You'd be like, I don't know. Okay. But yet, you cannot also deny that what Luther did. There's a reason why the history channel made him the number two person of the millennium in 1999, right? There was still a great amount. The same kind of pugnaciousness that left uncontrolled led Luther down some of the dark holes of anti-Semitism he went to in the end of his life. That same pugnaciousness is what the Lord utilized for him to stand up to Rome. And I think this is, again, our history and the reality of it, the truth of it, doesn't have to be romanticized because you see God at work in us in spite of our imperfections.

Right. Well, it's funny. At the end of Luther's life, obviously I wrote a big biography of Luther. And I didn't put it in the book, but at the end of his life, he went on Megan Kelly's podcast and on Tucker's podcast. A lot of people don't know that, but it makes perfect sense. Where else was he going to go to spew this hate? and you know what? We can't talk about that. Earlier, you said that God can walk and chew gum at the same time. I want to be clear to my audience, ladies and gentlemen, we are not speaking literally. We don't believe that God chews gum, and we don't know whether he approves of your chewing it. We're not going to get into that here. I'm talking to Steve Days about much more important stuff. The book is why Independence Day, America is great because God is good. And I really do believe that we have to, just, get Americans to understand this stuff again.

Because as I said, and you've said, we all used to know this. And it's the only way forward. We cannot be America if we don't have a consensus on what we're talking about here. It's why I wrote my book. It's why you wrote your book, your several books. This is mandatory. It's all going to be on the test. This is not like, oh, for history buffs.

It's vital that we get this. And I would go farther and say that for us to be the shining city on a hill, you know, that Jesus talks about, that Winthrop talks about, that Reagan quotes, we have to understand this stuff so that when people look at us, whether people in England today, they say, I want what they have. What they have, where do they get that? Where do those ideas come from? And I have this view. I hope that in England, they're coming to terms, people like Tommy Robinson, that we're a Christian nation. If we do not adhere to those principles, who are we? How can we go?

How can we be free? Because you know and I know, you cannot be free apart from these biblical views, apart from understanding that we're under God and that we're in a covenantal relationship. If we honor him, he will honor us. If we don't honor him, total chaos, like they had in the French Revolution, obviously. Can I talk about some of the history that kind of led us to this moment? It's more contemporary, for example. Please, please. So there's a reason why the so-called left behind or dispensational view has been the dominant eschatological view within the American church for the last, say, 75 years. Because post-modernism, not post-modernism, but post-modernism, what you saw is a lot of the old covenantal reformed churches, which we now call mainline heretical churches, a lot of them, particularly post-scopes monkey trial and all the confrontation.

of modernism post-World War I that they weren't ready for. A lot of them adapted to the culture and began to mainstream into the culture and they lost the fundamentals of the faith. It was the churches that came out of the Moody, the Moody wing, the Pentecostal wings of the early 20th century, the Southern Baptist Convention wings. It was those churches, like Billy Graham, for example, it was those churches that held on to what were known back then as the fundamentals of the faith. And that was the eschatological tradition that they taught. And so what a lot of people, young men are, for example, tuning into Tucker, well, I don't know where this view came from on this prophetic Israel

and these Christian Zionists are ruining America. Listen, their eschatology may be proven to be wrong. There will be figures throughout the history of the church. They'll have different eschatological views on whether this is a prophetic Israel or there would ever be another prophetic Israel again. But what I can tell you is this, because I brought the, I'm bringing this up because you invoked the UK. The only reason we're not where the UK and France and all those other Western countries are right now

is there was a critical mass of voters that came out of the original religious right and they were almost all people that believed in a prophetic Israel, that voting block in the last generation, that voting block of boomers, they countered the counterculture. They went against the grain of their own boomer era

and they gave us the Reagan Revolution and then they gave us MAGA. Without that critical mass of voters that some like Tucker are now trying to retcon and castigate and condemn on their platforms. Without that, without that block of voters, we're France and England right now because that's the difference.

That's the difference is there was a wing of orthodoxy that still produced a critical mass of voters in this country that could hold off the postmodern revolution coming out of the counterculture of the boomer era. That critical mass of voters is nowhere to be found in any other Western country. And that's why they're way further down the rabbit hole, Alice, than we are. And I think that that just needed to be said.

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We're going to cut that out. No, that was so great. That was so important because you're exactly right. They don't have that. I mean, where is the conservative Christian movement in England? Very little. Now, the question is whether that can emerge because, you know, there is revival, there are things happening.

People who are pro-reality who understand that Islamist fascism is not good for England, Those people, I think, are drifting toward having this biblical view. And I believe that, you know, that would be God's will. We don't know where it's going to go. But there's just no doubt that we have remained a free people because of what you just said. It's extraordinary. I know we just have a minute left. The book is Why Independence Day by Steve Day's spelled D-E-A-C-E-A-C.

I want to be clear. You know how to spell Steve, but the book is why Independence Day America is great because God is good. What can we say in our final minute or so, Steve Deis? I would just cite the Prophet Josea. My people perish for a lack of knowledge. And what's undergone the last generation is, you know, secular humanism is always a temporary staging area for a culture. It always is. The point is to set the stage for what the new meta-existential truth will be that replaced the old one.

And what happened with postmodernism is it was sent in like the Navy Seals of the Culture War for the enemy to deconstruct Christianity to make a way for what the new worldview is. And you're seeing it in the West for the last generation. It's been Islam. You're seeing it happen now in America with Islam. And so that's where we are right now. And the only way that we're going the answers that we're looking for in the future, they lie in the past. Boy, kind of important folks. In other words, we need to understand these things. This is going to be on the test. This is not extra credit. This is vital that we all get this. Steve, just a joy to know that you're out there doing what you do. People can find you every day on Blaze Media, Steve Day's show. And the book is Why Independence Day. America is great because God is good.

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