The Eric Metaxas Show - #143 - Mel K

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

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I have the host of the Mel K. show on the Eric Metaxus show. I am Eric Metaxis and the host of the Mel Kaye show is Mel Kay. Mel Kay, welcome back. Thank you for having me. Excited to be here. Well, I'm always excited to talk to you, but you have a book out called Infiltration instead of Invasion, Brand new.

I have a sense of where you're going with this book, But you, what I love about you is you, you bring the receipts to use the contemporary cliche. I don't know what we said 10 years ago or five years ago. And I don't know what we'll say in five years. But today we say she brings the receipts. So just to give my audience background on you, so they have a sense of how you get to know all this stuff. How did you get to know all this stuff? Well, first and foremost, I have a great father who's a huge historical.

historian and loves America. So I learned about history before I could probably even speak, essentially. And I spent my whole life kind of digging into history. I then went to NYU for journalism and then film. And I turned all of that into a 22-year career writing historical nonfiction for film and television. So turning history into digestible, entertainment to kind of like on the history channel or something to kind of bring to life different periods of time and the one that inspired me the most was a screenplay I wrote about Hannah Arendt and Eichmann in Jerusalem and during that time and this is 20 years ago I really dug into all of the 30s and 40s literature of Germany and elsewhere and particularly Hannah Arendt and that inspired me over the

years and I had always, you know, in the back of my head, looked to the 1961 speech of JFK, where he talks about infiltration instead of invasion. And it always struck me that people said that that was about Soviets. But from what I knew from World War I, World War I, World War II, and a lot of my research over the years, I just started to think, no, it's not about Soviets. He is warning us about something really, really important and dangerous inside our country. and that we already had been invaded, but not the way that we were used to. So over the years, I always thought about digging into that speech. And then I finally did.

So for me, it's all about correcting history that was purposely written to deceive the masses and the public to continue down a path where we were kind of blind to what had been created post-World War II. And right now, I believe we are dealing with that creation. I call it a supernational architecture that's, stole our birthright as citizens of the United States, and it's time to take it back. So I dug into every piece of what happened before JFK made that speech, and I lay it out in this book, and I prove, I believe, that we are still living under a system that has stolen our sovereignty and eroded the will of the people of the United States. Well, it's funny because, you know, now having written my own book on the American Revolution, it is so ghastly to think how we have

drifted away and how the men of the revolution were so genuinely principled in an era of corruption and cynicism that we live in. They were so principled and there's such beautiful human beings. And to think that over time, people that had effectively the same view as the British Parliament in 1776 have infiltrated. It's a fundamentally anti-American point of view. It's an anti-liberty point of view. So I think the question always that I have, and I'm sure that my audience has, is where did it start?

Because to me it is, I mean, I have to always frame it, or at least put my cards on the table and say that, I really believe that America is an example of God's hand in history, that the idea of people governing themselves, of being genuinely free, you know, there's a reason that didn't exist. before. It takes time. And after the Reformation, you see these things being possible. And so when America

comes into being, it's this beautiful thing. But there have always been forces that sneer at the idea of people governing themselves that say, we know better. And we're going to figure out a way to govern you, to enslave you. The British, we're trying to do it effectively. That's what the war, the revolution is about. But they try to do it afterward. And there've always been forces. I mean, because people, it's funny, you bring up Hannah Arendt. I mean, she sees the evil that's in everyone when she's talking about Eichmann. It's not just like, you know, five people in a bunker that there's, that we all long for power.

But there are these elites that have the ability to take this longing for power and to do something about it. So that's, I know what you've been writing about. and forgive the long preamble, but that's all to say, where do you see this beginning? At what point do you see this beginning and who are the players? Okay, I believe that the crown never saw the American Revolution as what we saw it as, as independence or revolution. I firmly believe that they assessed where they were at the end of the Revolutionary War, and they decided to find a different way to infiltrate America and destroy. this country, and that would be through the treasonous Wilson administration that I believe

always worked for the Crown as well. And the whole international, like America is never separate from Europe. But I mean, that's 150 years after the revolution. So they had to wait. Wilson, you're saying it really begins with Wilson, where they get the ability to do something. Openly, the Federal Reserve. I mean, they had, I don't believe they ever accepted that America was no long, was independent from Europe, from any of them. But I do believe that it took a long time. And then finally they got their guy in there who would pass the Federal Reserve Act. And that, again, in my opinion, is the first infiltration of America through the banking system.

And then that spread to the railroads from the same group of people. And then that expanded to academia. And it expanded. And so when Wilson was there who also brought, in my opinion, progressivism, the disease that we have been dealing with all these years into the country as well. I believe also at that time that we have to remember the Civil War itself was not what we were taught either. The Civil War was essentially the Crown and France trying to destroy America by supporting and funding the South. A lot of people don't even know that that was a second attempt to try to delegitimize and break up America and take power. Now, where I see the country completely and totally being usurped, and as JFK says, infiltrated instead of invaded, would be in the last years of World War II over in Switzerland.

We were told always Switzerland was neutral. Well, Switzerland was not neutral in any way, shape, or form. Switzerland was running the international financial system through the entire World War II. I mean, they started after World War I building this, but doing it. During the entire World War II in Switzerland at the Bank of International settlements, they were clearing money for the Nazis. At the same time, they were clearing money for the city of London. At the same time, they were clearing money for Wall Street. And none of it was as if there was a war going on.

These guys during World War II, and I'll tell you in a minute who the guys are, at least from America, were creating a supranational architecture for the future financial system. and I think the endless war for profit machine that they had realized was a significant way to capture money, power, and also governance over all nations above any president, above any sovereign nation. And they built it and then they gave it immunity. And the Americans involved at that time were two Wall Street bankers from Sullivan and Cromwell, known as the Dollis Brothers. John Foster Dulles was basically the law guy creating multinational corporations between Germany and America and all over, but also doing a lot of the legal work to give them immunity and supranational status without anyone really understanding what was going on. And of course, his brother, Alan Dulles, was the OSS head in Bern, Switzerland and spent much of his time at the Bank of International settlements with the Nazi banker Shreff and the city of London.

banker, Montague Norman. And what they were doing, essentially, was they were creating a financial system that was completely opaque from the people of nations. So there were multiple things passed between 44 and 49 that essentially made sure that not only would they put this architecture above nations in place, but that it could not be destroyed. And even when they died, they planned for it to continue on. So we are many, many years later and we are still living in the same architecture. And remember JFK said secrecy is repugnant.

Well, a lot of what they did required a lot of secrecy that is still in place to this day. And that's what I try to show. And I just want to be just to be clear, folks, we're talking about the bankers who weren't all Jews. Mel Kay, you're a Jew. The Dulles, the Dulles brothers were not Jews. I don't believe Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a Jew. Wilson was not a Jew. So, you know,

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blessing of FDR. Was he aware? Do you think of what they were doing? Or, I mean, he's the one that gave them the ability. But do you think that he understood what he was allowing? No, not at all. Not in any way. And I still think FDR's death is suspect.

But his death is suspect. I think so. I mean. What about the crutches? Are those suspects? No, I just mean that the timing of his death, if you really looked at it, was essentially when the Dolis brothers were ready for prime time. And frankly, what we have to understand is that in 1950,

when the Dolis brothers walked into the two highest positions in America that are unelected, the State Department, the Secretary of State became Alan Dolis, I mean John Foster Dolis, and the head of the CIA became Alan Dolis. I firmly believe from that point on the international architecture above nations, the global public-private partnership I talk about, the State Department became a tentacle of that. And I don't believe from that. Just to inform anybody who's not clear, the OSS is the precursor. cert to the CIA.

Yes. Okay. And let me ask you, why do you think the Dulles brothers were the Dulles brothers? Why do you think what, and I don't mean, please explain the concept of brotherhood. I mean, we know that they were brothers, but why were they, why did they want to do this? What's their background that would make them want to do this? Who were they? Where do they come from?

Well, they come from at the time, you know, they come from. from the upper class of America, well-educated in the Ivy Leagues, the whole thing. But they really, honestly, their impetus, I believe, came out of their work at Sullivan and Cromwell, which at the time, it still is one of the biggest international law firms on planet Earth. And Alan Dolis was number two, but John Foster Dolis was essentially the partner in that firm. And what they were creating, which I'm sure, this is not a conspiracy book. I'm sure that they were excited about the prospect of multinational corporations. And, you know, they represented Standard Oil of New Jersey, which is the Rockefeller Oil dynasty.

But they also were representing IG Farben in Germany. And then they were doing deals between Rockefeller Standard Oil and IG Farben before World War II. And they were coordinating how international finance would move. And they, I, okay, so just to be clear, again, we're talking about globalists and we're talking about people who think nationalism and nations and sovereignty is for suckers. Right. That's basically what they think. It's like, yeah, you're an American. You like to live in American.

You're a sucker and an idiot. Right. And we can control the whole world. And we think borders are stupid and you're stupid and we have the power. That's basically their worldview. It's a very cynical worldview. and I want to be clear, antithetical to the worldview

of all of the American founders. And they realize, we don't even need to, we don't need to sell this. We just have the power to do it from behind the scenes, and we're going to do it, and we're going to make a lot of money doing it.

And we don't have, and again, I think it has to be said, you know, they work with IG Farben. I mean, they have no morals. They have no standards. If Jews get murdered on mass by the millions and we can make money, if there's a war and people get enslaved. It really, it's so dark. And that's what's so hard about this is to realize that there are people who genuinely don't care about anything.

They think that standards or morals or ideals or ideals are for suckers. and they're going to make money, you know, in the meantime. And so it's just ugly to look at. But so keep going. Yeah. And I think we have to also go back to how this happened. World War I also suspect of beginning of World War I. But I believe Smedley Butler wrote a book after about basically all wars or bankers wars.

And War as a racket was the book. And he explained how he was. beside himself because of the amount of money that was generated, not just during and for the war, but in the reconstruction after the war, because that's when they realized the financial model of never-ending war for profit is not in the war. It's in the reconstruction and the treaties, like the fraudulent Marshall Fund after World War II. It's after the war in the reconstruction when they can consolidate money and power up. So the Bank of International Settlements was created after World War, were one for reparations from Germany.

But that's not what happened. What happened was that Bank of International settlements gathered the German bankers, the English bankers, the American bankers, the Wall Street people, and put them all in essentially a room to figure out, you know, how to de-nazify or de-industrialize Germany. We're in the real situation, they were funding it. So, you know, people have put hundreds of millions of dollars in today. money was being put in through the multinational corporation model, through the idea that

all that they needed reparations, but they were rebuilding Germany's industrial base during that time. And so the Bank of International Settlements became kind of this hub that did not, no matter, remember, we have to remember, the international financial structure that came later, Bretton Woods was created in New Hampshire, in America, before the end of the war, right around D-Day. So these same guys that were meeting in Switzerland, Basel, Switzerland and Bern, Switzerland, they were meeting to create something that they already knew was going to be the outcome of World War II that had nothing to do with victory over the Nazis. It had to do with a continuity of power above nations. And that's the deception because in those years. So was there

anybody pushing against this at the time? You mentioned FDR. You don't think FDR was on board with this. Not at all. No, I don't. And I don't. I think a lot was hidden from him because the OSS, like it's later, you know, CIA gave itself a lot of power of secrecy, is the truth. And, you know, we have to remember that. The other thing that I want people to know is, and here's the thing, you can't because you love America, allow yourself to continue down a path where you don't understand what happened to this country because you don't want America to look bad. What I believe is that, and remember, the head of the Bank of International, settlements was Rick Kittrick, another Wall Street lawyer. Well, when they were looting and laundering and killing 60 million people in Europe, where was the gold and money going? It was going to the Bank of International Settlements, which was supposed to be a reparations bank. And again, it never was that. It was really where the Germany and the Nazis were still continuing to do business with every country, including America, financially, without a hitch, as if the war wasn't going. going on. And what I really believe, and you said earlier, and Rockefeller says it in his autobiography,

he says, surely a world ruled by intellectual elite and international bankers is preferable to that of earlier generations of self-determination. That was their belief. Rockefeller actually said that, which Rockefeller said that? David Rockefeller said it in the 70s, but I mean, long after, but he said it. But no, but it's just amazing because the Rockefellers seem uniquely dirty somehow or at least they're close to the top of the filth. It's so dark. It is.

They are so cynical. It's a level of cynicism. There really is evil. There's no other word. It's evil in the way, the contempt that they have for their fellow human beings. Yeah, for humanity. Yeah.

Because a lot of people think that eugenics and the cleansing, ethnic cleansing started there? No, it started at the Rockefeller Institute in America. You know, the Nazis inherited that. The other part that I have to make clear is it appears to me that the Dulles brothers were very close with very high-level Nazis. And I don't mean like close, like they tolerated them. I mean, they were friends. They were planning together. And in 1944, before the end, and I have the documents in the book, everything that I got, I dug in, got some archives, got some people to send me stuff. Everything in the book is true. And in 1940,

44, these what they called themselves internationalists, but those are what we now call the multinational, international corporations. But internationalists, Himmler and the top bankers of Hitler, the representatives from the city of London, representatives from Wall Street, representatives from a lot of the same people that would meet in Switzerland at the bank of international settlements met in France to figure out how to get the approximately, and this is crazy at the time, but the billions of and billions of dollars that Germany was making during the war by looting and laundering and stealing the money of nations and gold of nations and all of what they did in the Holocaust,

out of Germany before Hitler surrendered. This was a meeting with people sitting there and saying, we can let Germany fall, but we're not going to let the Reich or people, they've redefined Nazis as something else. We're not going to let the totalitarian control that we created fall. We're not going to let the dream of a unified Europe with. Russia running the world from Brussels and Geneva fall. And we are going to get all our money out of Germany that we can. We're going to get it to different places, particularly the United States, through subsidiaries of international corporations and shell companies and offshore banking. And we are going to rebuild after a little while underground. And that is what I believe happened.

And I believe that right now we were, I think where we are now is that Donald Trump, Trump interfered in the very long planned World War III when he won in 2016. And when you look at the money lines, and I said this on your show before, Chuck Grassley, when Trump got back into office, he went with Malay and requested the UBS that took over the Swiss banks not too long ago to open their files on the Nazi rat lines. The rat lines are financial. and what they got so far, Malay has found and released 100,000 more documents beyond Operation Paperclip. So when I say, I believe that the Dulles brothers were friends with the Nazis, I believe that they were aligned with them ideologically.

And that when they came back, well, a lot of people know about Operation Paperclip. But there's another guy, McCloy. He was the American that went into D-Nazify, you know, Germany after World War II. but really what they did was they tried to get as many Nazi scientists and researchers and behavioral health people and professors and bring them to America under the guys. Well, if we don't do it, the Soviets will. But worse than that, and this is where we get to today. Alan Dolis was very good friends with the highest level intelligence officers of Nazi Germany. And instead of putting them in Nuremberg and having a thing, he brought them in.

And he gave Galen, which is the Galen organization, the power over he and McCloy over West Germany. But worse than that, he swallowed in much of Nazi's intelligence and clandestine operations, their CIA, into ours. I mean, this makes perfect sense, right? Because you get the impression that the higher levels, places like the CIA, their values, their values, are evil. They do not believe what all of us suckers who love America and God and they don't believe that stuff. So the idea that, I mean, it's one thing to say, hey, Rer von Brown is a genius in rocketry. We want him to help us. That makes sense. But you're saying they're taking in people who are, it would be like taking in the KGB. These are people whose values are deeply wicked.

And we're going to use them. We're going to work with them in the CIA with taxpayer funds from all the suckers in America who pay taxes. Right. And we're going to take over the world and they're going to help us. Right. That is exactly what happened. And that is what we are living under.

And, you know, like you say that, the thing I say, and I still say this about the lawfare lawyers now that should all be indicted for running a color revolution. The revolutions that these people started with the Dulles brothers, the regime change, color revolution model, all of that started when the Dulles Brothers. others went in there in 53. But before that even happened, they did multiple things in international treaties and international law, which was kind of new at the time, so they got away with a lot. But I want to remind people, they gave the Bank of International settlements and 63 banks connected to it, including the IMF and World Bank, complete and total immunity from any kind of

investigation, any kind of audit, any kind of all their files, their archives are inviable, still to this day, and at the same time they were building the NGO complex with the United Nations, we already had hearings in the 30s about the Rockefeller, Carnegie and Ford foundations all being subversive to the will and the voters of America and that they had, were usurping the voice and the desires of we the people of the United States, but nothing ever happened to them. So while they were creating the financial architecture, they were creating the ideological and academic and institution architecture through the United Nations, which they also gave immunity to. So the International Organization Immunity Act of 1945 essentially

put the Bank of International Settlements, which is the Bank of Central Banks, and it's 63 connected banks, including American banks, and then also the United Nations, and the 76 tentacles of the United Nations, immunity from investigation, from audit, from even their people, at immunity, a lot of tax exemptions. And that is still in place to this day. And I've even said to people that are very close to Donald Trump, does Donald Trump know that this international organization immunity act is still in place and that they all, the IMF and World Bank are on the ground in Washington, D.C. They, we have, the United States has no jurisdiction over those buildings or what goes on in them at all on our soil. And there's a hundred of these international

organizations of which are on U.S. soil and the United States of America has zero ability to oversee them, to investigate them, or anything. It is still in place and they are still functioning supernational powers on our soil. And then because they live here, they're influencing our, culture. They're influencing our academia. And that's, well, that's, and that's a whole other conversation. But, but, well, let me, let me just ask you, Trump is a wrecking ball. And he is their worst nightmare, it seems to me. Right. And the question is, what does he know and what is he doing? What is your sense of what is going on? Because he is the ultimate disruptor. Yeah. Well, I think he knows a lot of this because another thing that I am sure about, the first hit was to USAID.

USAID was never aid. That is a lie that the Democrats say. USAID was started by, again, during the post-World War to denotification era, a man named Draper went to kind of look at the finances and what was going on for the government here. There's a book written about it. It is called All the Honorable Men, all the honorable men. And this is about going in and looking at the finances and everything after the Nazi surrendered, Hitler surrendered. And really, what happened was this Draper guy came back with the Draper report. And he said in this, you know, what, if we're going to keep power over there and keep this continuity above nations, we have to have a mechanism for soft power, meaning infiltration, what we know now is a color revolution and what

National Endowment for Democracy does on the ground, which is create factions of disruption, essentially, and in the end, to overthrow regimes and put in people that are okay with the lack of national sovereignty and the goal of global governance. And that has happened over 60 times. And And the CIA and USAID National Endowment for Democracy and our rogue state department since the 50s have been driving that. And the other thing I want people to know, too, is that I don't believe that the CIA, MI6, and the Five Eyes nations are different things. I think that they all evolved together as an international intelligence organization that never worked for the United States or any people of the countries that they are in. I believe that the OSS turned into a, with Dulles and his lawyer friends, turned into a protection racket for the international banking cartel. And that always, since the 50s, when the State Department turned away from America and towards this international architecture, that they have been protecting the international banking system and global public private partnership from the American people, from us finding out, not protecting us for the future.

And as you know, the CIA after Donald Trump won said, forget it, we're going to get involved on U.S. soil starting the steady state, which is a group of CIA guys, 400 of them, that did all the regime changes over the last 30 years in Europe. Yeah. To be clear, they're going to take what they do around the world, which most Americans would be like, well, yeah, that's a good thing. They're going to take that and turn it inward. And they have been doing it at least since 2016. Yes. Do you think we're going to get to the bottom of this? Do you think that this is going to be, I mean, a lot of it has been exposed, but do you think there's going to be justice? Do you think people are going to be held to account any of them?

Well, like you brought up in the beginning about the revolutionary war and those who fought in it, and for me, I think the best hope for America was in George Washington's farewell address. And I believe that that is what also Donald Trump believes that America should return to. In 1913, our entire constitutional republic started to be reworked into something at this point that the people, the president, these people are above the president. Don't forget, in 1949, after the CIA was created, they gave themselves total immunity. And the only person that has control over the CIA is the head of the CIA. And they don't have to tell you how much money. Their money is totally black.

So we see trillions going out from USAID to fund regime change CIA. operations around the world. But there's a whole other budget that the CIA doesn't have to show anyone, not even the president in the United States. So they have, that's why I'm saying, I don't think the CIA has ever been an American institution. I think it has always been a banking, global banking protection racket. So Donald Trump right now, if you look at some of the places he's gone into, okay, so Venezuela, he's dealing with Cuba, Iran, some of their places. These are also places where the Dolis Brothers model did major infiltration. and regime change with the CIA and all of their things.

And the very first regime change that was obviously a model that became what we deal with today was the Dolos brothers going into Iran in 1953 with Operation Ajax. And they went into Iran because, I mean, whatever they said on the surface is BS. Because Sullivan and Cromwell represented BP oil. And Iran wanted to nationalize their oil reserves. And next thing you know, there's a regime change there. And then the second regime change operation was in Guatemala. And this was because the Sullivan and Cromwell client, United Fruit, of whom Alan Dolis was on the board, the Guatemalans wanted to take over their farming and everything and change it for the better for the country.

And no, no, no. So they then overthrew Guatemala. And every time that they overthrow, like I was talking about USAID and soft power, they put in a pre-chosen person. that is going to go along with. Well, you're saying that the Shah of Iran was on board with this stuff. You know, it's hard to say on board. What does that mean? Do you have a choice when you have this kind of evil around you?

I mean, the CIA gave themselves license to lie, cheat, steal, assassinate. They assassinated. I mean, whatever people want to say, this group, and I'm not saying, this is the hard part about the idea, the CIA kill JFK. I will say the architecture that they created did. You know, I mean, can you point? He was getting in the way, anyone that has gotten in the way. And it's my belief when I talk about the Red House papers and anyone can look it up,

it's in D-Class CIA, when they were getting the billions of dollars out of Germany before Hitler surrendered as a group. You know, this wasn't just the Germans. This was the bankers in America helping and everything. They were sending money through Italy, then to Argentina. Peron was on the side of the Nazis in Argentina at the time, which is why Malay is important now, and then into America. So what we have to realize, too, is that they fortified all of this.

And a lot of that money that came into America then went to write the history books and to write everything. So all of this is going on in plain sight, while they are also taking Himmler-level propaganda and people that created the entire sociology, you know, sector that they teach in colleges, behavioral health, all of this. This is all coming out of Nazi Germany. And it's very hard to know that. But what I believe is that there have been true particularly, because you got to look at

this bigger picture because, you know, also the Epstein releases is part of this too. Who did Epstein work for? He worked for the international banking cartel and the global public-private partnership that has been in existence since back then. So when you're trying to pinpoint anything, if you don't know what was built above nations and then solidified with immunity and with all kinds of different mechanisms with Bretton Woods and everything else, then you don't really understand that the war for profit model was legitimately set up right after Hitler surrendered for a World War III. and then in comes one of the players, I think, in this global architecture, George Soros, 1993, he champions Bill Clinton, and then he writes the NATO world order. We all know NATO was supposed to end, and it's the same architecture that has allowed this to happen

that has not been broken. And what we need to understand is NATO itself is one of those pieces of this puzzle. It is endless war for profit from people that believe that where they sit, above nations is where power should lie, does lie. And they continue to gaslight the people of nations to think that. But they're nationalists now, you know, rising up. Thank God. In countries all around the world.

Do you have a sense? Because I have a sense that we are in a revolution. We do. That we are now in this war, that Trump is on the right side of this. And there are others fighting. You wonder whether the people of England have finally had enough, the people in Belfast, what happened recently. Do you have a sense that we may make progress, that we can break the back of this evil? Yeah, that's why, frankly, I wrote the book because I wrote it for a 17-year-old, honestly, to like as old as you want to get.

I want people to understand that this was coordinated. It was not an accident. And Donald Trump, I think, more than anything, understands that in the, that architecture that they put together, they had it essentially, the Third Reich, going to the Fourth Reich, would be, again, destroying Russia, dispersing its natural resources, running the world, global governance through Geneva and Brussels, but to have the money center be the city of London and essentially Wall Street, but to pay for it all and to die on the battlefields and all of that, the United States was targeted. We paid for the entire Cold War.

which was a war on a tactic that changed often. We paid for the entire reconstruction and the creation of the EU after World War II. We paid for the entire war on terror that was a war on a tactic that changed often. And I firmly believe we paid for the entire global warming nonsense, which was all about capturing natural resources. All of that was possible because this architecture is still in place above our nations. And it continues to run. And it did not care that Donald Trump won the first time

because it was going to stop him from doing anything. It does care now. And that is where I see the real issues. And again, I believe that there is a bigger picture here. This is sovereign nations. Take away who are allies and enemies by, you know, what people think. We are dealing with sovereign nations that will not give up their sovereignty under any circumstances, including the United States, Russia, China, India.

They will not give up their sovereignty for an international global order. But I believe that the EU and many of the countries that they are aligned with are done with nation states. They have already gone full agenda 2030. And I believe that that war that, I believe Clinton kicked off this phase for World War III when he bombed Yugoslavia. And I believe that that was a George Soros operation because George Soros already had the open society all over Europe. And when he wrote the NATO world order, wouldn't you know it? shortly after, you know, Bill Clinton betrays the agreement between Gorbachev and Reagan to end the USSR and bombs Yugoslavia. And they haven't stopped since.

There's essentially been a color revolution. You can go to Serbia. You can go to Libya. You can go anywhere. And that same model of creating total chaos on the ground to overthrow a regime, which we did in, obviously, in the open in 2014, the CIA and the State Department took over Ukraine in 20. And this whole war, there is no enemy because Ukraine has not been free and it has never been free, but it certainly has been captured by the international intelligence and endless war for profit machine since 2014. So then you keep going forward. The biggest looting that has happened to the people of the United States, and I'm talking trillions of dollars.

We are $39 trillion in debt because of the endless war for profit model was to extract all of the wealth from the United States of America while also using our Chile. to fight their battles on their soil. What do you think can happen in the next two years with President Trump? Well, the first thing that has to happen is he has to rescind some of these old things that he can do himself. And I mean, the International Organization Immunity Act should be rescinded. He can do that himself. I believe that he should pull out of NATO.

NATO is not a defensive force. They are the war. Well, the NATO thing, I've never understood NATO. It's like a joke. I think he's on to that. But does he, do you think he will do these? things? I think he has to. I mean, the bottom line is, can we push the UN into the East River with bulldozers? We have to. It's always been a fraud. It has always been a fraud. It is, and listen,

the guys that I'm talking about, the Americans, particularly the Dolis brothers, McCloy, all these people, don't forget that they went in and got Nazis that were supposed to be hung or killed in Nuremberg and brought them here and gave them new names and new identities. And that wasn't just 1800 scientists. We're talking about tens of thousands of people that brought that ideology into this country and then continued that ideology to date. So progressiveism as we see it now, the color revolution that started in 2016 with the Brookings people and Obama's people. And don't forget, Brennan was the, Brennan was the station chief in Saudi Arabia for 12 years. He gave at least 13 of the hijackers from 9-11 their visas. Then he's the only person that supported Barack Obama, who I think is

a creation of the CIA from birth. And then when he got in there, Brennan and Holder and all of these people, they are the iteration. They are the, I think, outcome of the infiltration into this country. Do you think they will be held to account any of them? I don't see how we cannot have John Brennan be tried for treason. I just, there is no way that I can see that happening. And I want to be very clear. And this is about the Five Eyes nations and where everyone's talking about the 702 again, which we don't need.

We frankly don't, we could, I think Trump should rescind the 1947 Truman document, one page document created. You think that's on his list of things to do? I mean, you say that. Do you think he's aware of this and his people are aware of this? Yeah, I think he knows the CIA is dirty to the core. I know RFK Jr. knows it. And I think that the places he's going into are strongholds that the CIA corrupted and turned

into the tentacles of the global governance model that usurp nations. Yeah, I believe Trump knows all of this. But what I think is the hardest is first he's trying to reverse all of the damage from the setup to loot and launder all of the money for all of these wars from the American people and from our tax base, and he is trying to rebuild our financial strength at the same time as the military. But I do think, I haven't seen Ratcliffe, but I do think Tulsi Gabbert is still, her goal is to dismantle the CIA and all of the tentacles that are connected to it. It has to be done.

And that 1947, I don't know if you know, Truman on his deathbed essentially wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post saying that if he ever- He died in 1973. or two or four. Somewhere around there, but he wrote an op-ed, I believe, in 71, okay? And it says, he says that if he ever imagined that the CIA would become as sinister as it had and what it became, he never would have created it. And I think that we've allowed that to go on.

And, you know, Eisenhower also, the endless war for profit with the bankers and the military industrial complex is going to be a problem. Reagan, we don't know, because after they shot Reagan, you know, you know, You know, a guy who's, and this is the craziest part of it all when you think about the Nazi connection, Prescott Bush was charged with banking with Nazis openly and his assets and everything were seized. And somehow his son goes on to be the head of the CIA and then president. If that's not infiltration of some sort, I don't know what is. You know, yeah.

This is, we have less than a minute left. I'm just amazed, Mel, at all of this. The work that you do is so valuable. The book is infiltration instead of invasion. I always want to talk to you for another hour at least, and we can. So we'll have to have you back because it's just, this is about everything. This is as important as it gets what we're talking about, folks. We're talking about the future of freedom in the world.

And how can people find you at the Melkayshow.com? Is that the best website? Yeah, the Melkayshow.com. And I also want to say, Eric, for your audience, because you have such a great audience that loves this country so much, I want to say, as long as we open everything and we're transparent about how we got here, we can win. As long as we have our head in the sand thinking somebody else is going to fix it, we can't. That's why I wrote the book, and it's at the Melkayshow.com.

Or you can check me out every day 12 to 1.30 p.m. on Rumble and X Live. unbelievable well i just uh i i thank god that you're doing what you're doing it is so important i know there are tons of people that follow you uh we're just grateful for you god bless america you know if everybody uh does what they can do uh and trust god we can win so melkay god bless you thank you so much thank you sir appreciate it i just decided i want to write a book on the american revolution because this is extremely important. Unless Americans know our story, we cannot possibly continue to keep the republic. Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if?

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