The Eric Metaxas Show - #153 - The Real America

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

Today On The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric and Chris Himes talk about the World Cup, America’s Christian culture, why visitors from around the world are seeing the real America, George W. Bush, PragerU, t...he Museum of the Bible, the July 4th events in Washington, D.C., Eric’s Revolution book tour, bookstore issues, the Bonhoeffer film relaunch, upcoming events, and why America’s story still matters.⭐ ORDER NOW:Revolution: The Birth of the Greatest Nation in the History of the World📕: https://a.co/d/0ir3NlapTODAY'S SPONSORS:🛏️ MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://www.mypillow.com/☀️ Honest, fast, and free Medicare plan guidance: https://askchapter.com/metaxas/- - -LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@ericmetaxas

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Hey there, folks. Happy Super Centennial. Today is Tuesday, July, 7th. I'm always amazed when we're into July. It's July. Chris Heimes, it's July. Yeah, I don't know how it's happened. It happens every year.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Every single year, it happens. Listen, I'm tired. I'm very tired. Folks, the journey that I have been on, and I say journey, you know, metaphorically, literally. It's been a journey, but it's also been a crazy road trip, nonstop. I guess the last we spoke, I got back from someplace and then jet it off with you, Chris, we went to Nashville. So this is before July 4th, before the D.C. stuff. We were in Nashville. Yeah, we did a honky tonk tour.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We decided, you know what? We've been doing this podcast for so long. We haven't really done the honky tonk tour in Nashville and we really need to treat ourselves to that. bottles at us and be unable to hit us because there's chicken wire in front of the stage. No, the only reason we went to the Nashville area was Jeremy Boring had me on his podcast, which is evidently an extremely popular podcast. I'd never met Jeremy Boring before. And I was very happy to find out that he has been viciously attacked by Candice Owens, which means he's a hero.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But I was on with him. Rick Green, the wonderful Rick Green, John West, who I've had on many times for Socrates in the studio. Anyway, we did a podcast together. From there, I flew from Nashville to D.C. And I've basically been in D.C. until yesterday. Yesterday, our flights were canceled. This is yesterday, Monday. So we had to take the train.
Starting point is 00:02:35 We took the train up. And as soon as I got to New York, I drove to Connecticut where I am now. so I could see my mom last night. I'll see her again tonight. I was so exhausted last night that I did not go to see Young Washington. I had no plans and I said, Mom, we'll go to a movie. I was too exhausted to go to a movie. So I did not see Young Washington last night.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Everybody's raving about it. But there's so much I want to share. I want to share everything that I did on this trip to Washington, D.C. and I guess, but maybe before that, I'm going to mention two things. Trump and the World Cup. I really couldn't care less about the World Cup until, because I'm not a soccer guy. Suzanne was telling me that the USA team, they're praying. And I thought, well, that's amazing and interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And they beat Bosnia-Herzegovina, who saw that coming? So I kind of got interested. And then, of course, the star player, you know, he gets the red card. And suddenly there's always controversy. And I hate controversy. And then, of course, Trump makes a phone call. Trump gets him reinstated. The liberal media loses their minds.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And he plays last night. And they lose four to one to Belgium. I use Belgium as like a punchline. Whenever I'm giving my speech, I say, you know, the title of my book is Revolution, the Birth of Grace Nation, history of the world, and I want to be clear, not talking about Belgium. Anyway, is there anything to say except there's poetic justice in the fact that the guy gets in and we still lose? And can we move on now? Do we have to talk about the World Cup?
Starting point is 00:04:21 The best part for me about the World Cup, before I talk about my time in Washington, D.C., and I have mentioned this in some of my speeches and sermons that there is something beautiful about all of these people from around the world coming to the United States of America and actually seeing this nation and experiencing the people of this great, great, great, great, nation, the greatest nation in the history of the world. Because we are fundamentally a Christian nation, even people who do not, you know, have a view of the atonement or understand eschatology or do not walk around with Jesus T-shirts, even those people behave often in a Christian way, being friendly and outgoing and kind.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And people from around the world come here and they go, wow, what is this? We really like this. Who are these people? We're Americans. And we are Christian culture, again, even if the individual people don't have the theology, we've always been the good guys. They're always exceptions, but we're the good guys. And I talk about this a lot in my Revolution book.
Starting point is 00:05:31 We are the good guys. We stake out the moral high. ground. That's what Washington and John Adams and others insisted on during the revolution. It's, I believe, why the Lord smiled on our efforts and why we won independence. And it's amazing to see 250 years later people coming from around the world and seeing what Tocqueville saw 200 years ago, seeing what people have seen for generations and generations. And it harkens back to 1630 when John Winthrop up on the Arbella gave his sermon, saying that we're supposed to be like a shining city on a hill. That's Jesus' idea, of course, right?
Starting point is 00:06:11 The people will look at us and say, what is that? That's beautiful. How can we get that? How can we get there? What is that? Well, it's Jesus. It's Jesus. Even for those who aren't aware of what it is, it's Jesus.
Starting point is 00:06:24 We've been a Christian nation. We've been shining. We've been shining love and liberty for 250 years. And I just think that that's important. to say that the World Cup, it's an opportunity for evangelism. Evangelism, obviously, ultimately, and mostly toward accepting Jesus, but also evangelism for the ideas that flow from those who walk with Jesus. Freedom. And again, wanting to be the good guy. I always talk about in World War II, my mom, who I talk to every day, I'll see her again today. She always talks about the Americans
Starting point is 00:07:03 were the good guys. When Germany was defeated in 1945, she's, you know, 12 years old, or 11 years old, she remembers that everybody knew when the American soldiers came, they're the good guys. Think about this. Germany's just been defeated, but they know when the American soldiers come, they're not going to rape us. They're the good guys. The Russian soldiers, not the good guys. The culture of Russia, not good. The culture of America good. Why is that? That's the difference between a Christian culture and a culture that is not Christian. At least that's supposed to be the difference. So got to mention that.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That's to me the upside of the world. Eric, it's interesting. You mentioned Germany. There was a viral clip of one of these, you know, visitors for the World Cup here in the United States. And it was a German man who was just blown away by the hospitality and the charity that he experienced in America. He was very, you know, kind of choked up and weepy just, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:00 and it was a simple thing, basically. he and a friend were kind of stuck after a match with no way to kind of get to, I think, their hotel. And so someone just offered them a ride. And he couldn't get over how hospitable the Americans were. And it was a simple act of, you know, you're at the game. You see somebody who seems a little lost and you help out. This is generally what Americans do. And again, even those Americans that are not walking with Jesus, it's part of our culture. And this is an important thing to say that it matters that it's a part of our culture. Because there are lots of very theologically fussy people online on X, that when you post anything, they've got to get
Starting point is 00:08:42 in their little theological point about, well, was Ben Franklin Soliscriptora? Otherwise, if he's not Soliscriptora, then he's going to hell. Or just fatiguing theological fuss budgets, It's not that theology doesn't matter, but that kind of pious, phariseical spirit that we've got to nip it. The bottom line is there are people who know the difference between good and evil. They know the difference between being helpful to a stranger and not caring about the stranger. And in America, we're full of those kind of people, and it's part of our Christian culture, even if many would not label it that way.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I do label it that way. Yeah, it's the spirit of the parable of the Good Samaritan that Jesus taught. Like who was his brother? It wasn't the guy who had the theology. What was the Good Samaritan's view of the atonement, Chris? Otherwise, he's going to be in hell forever if we don't get his view on the atonement written down for everybody. What about the tribulation?
Starting point is 00:09:38 Was that? What about that? Okay. So I want to say, there's a lot of stuff I want to say. Another thing I have to clarify, yesterday I saw a photograph of George Bush, because George W. Bush yesterday was his 80th birthday. and I was fond of him. I met him and spent time with him. But the photo was of him yucking it up with Bill Clinton. And on X, I posted, you know, another reason to hate W or something like that,
Starting point is 00:10:09 whatever. And I never should have used the word hate as a Christian. We do not hate people. So I was wrong. I deleted that. But what I meant to say was George W. Bush would not be seen paling around with Donald Trump. But he would be happy to be seen palling around and yucking it up with Bill Clinton and far worse than that with Barack Obama. And so I've lost respect for George Bush and for Mike Pence, but I certainly do not hate them. Forgive me for using that word. But I want to say that I've lost respect for them. They have sided with the enemy. And this is probably mostly out of ignorance. There's some people that think that, oh, they're part of some cabal of a Pato Satanist or something. I just think that they're foolish or they're ignorant or they care more about, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:59 being buddy buddy with Barack Obama for a photo op than they do about standing bravely with President Trump. So I just wanted to say that. We shouldn't say hate because these are human beings. But boy, are they lost. George W. Bush. Breaks my heart, really. That's what I should say. He breaks my heart.
Starting point is 00:11:19 to see that photo of him. It breaks my heart. Anyway, okay, so got to talk about my time in D.C. Suzanne and I met in D.C. on the second. So I left you, Chris, you were in Nashville, and we were Nashville, and we go. I go to D.C. So, first of all, the headline, the last time Suzanne and I were in D.C. together was for the inauguration 18 months ago.
Starting point is 00:11:42 During the inauguration, it was the bitterest cold of our lives. It was so cold, you couldn't walk. outside for very long you your legs my legs through the pants were freezing horrible now I was there as well and with my wife and if anybody has wives out there they know that they are the ultimate barometer or or I should say thermometer when it comes to life events and my wife finally refers to that weather that evening as the time that she almost just decided to stop moving and die that's how cold it was okay so So the reason I say how cold it was, because it was just unbelievably cold, like where you don't want to go out to get coffee, you can't leave the building.
Starting point is 00:12:29 This time, it was exactly the same with heat. It was unbelievably. When I say unbelievably, people usually use that word hyperbolicly. I'm using it mostly truthfully. It was almost unbelievable. You'd go out of the building and, ba-bang. it hit you like with weight. The heat was so hot.
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Starting point is 00:14:03 That's Chapter at 571-4-1-2-5-3. Talk to a real person and get the honest answers you deserve. So in the shade, it was bearable. And a lot of people, yeah, and a lot of people know it, but the Washington monument, the obelisk, that famous needle is also a thermometer. Correct. Correct. Correct. So it was, first of all, it was unbelievably hot. So we arrived. So on the second, this is July 2nd, that evening, we went to what used to be the wonderful Trump Hotel. Now it's the Waldorf Astoria. But we went there. It seems like, you know, the MAGA gang still gathers there. So we went there. So a lot of friends. There was a T.P. USA, like, welcoming reception on the night of July 2nd.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So my pastor and dear friend David Englehart was there with his beautiful wife, Bethany, and we, and they're kids. And we saw so many friends, including the sweet Erica Kirk. And I got to tell you, because Charlie was my friend, I feel very, very protective. of Erica and the people who've been attacking her, I am going to defend her. When you know people, it's different, you know? You can't speculate and you can't. I mean, if you don't know these people, I mean, Rob McCoy is my friend and his son, Mikey McCoy.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And when you know the people and then you read stuff about them, you think, well, look, I guess if I didn't know them, I might believe this stuff. but because I actually know these people and because I love Charlie so much. And I'm so defensive and protective of his widow and little children. And so I have no patience for the people that are attacking. Erica, I guess I could understand, you know, you're living in whatever bubble, but I know too much. And so I ask you in your prayer times, pray for Erica.
Starting point is 00:16:07 This is brutal stuff, what's happening this week with the trial. whatever. That's enough said about that. So we were at the TPSA thing July 2nd that evening. And again, so many friends, such a wonderful experience. Now, July 3rd, I had to speak at the Museum of the Bible. They had a big gala event. Now, TPSA had their own gala event. Museum of the Bible had a gala event. Everybody from Prager U, all of the big givers to Prager U were gathered, they had their events. So a lot of people and friends in Washington, D.C. But at the Museum of the Bible Gala, they had so many speakers that I was the last speaker. So that's good and bad.
Starting point is 00:16:56 But before me, they had, I mean, it was one speaker after another. I couldn't even count. I mean, of course, the Greens, you know, Jackie Green, they, they, they, They were, you know, it was a gala for the Museum of the Bible to raise money for the Museum of the Bible. It was so wonderful to be in a room with so many friends, most of them speaking at the event. Askinah spoke at the event. Ben Carson spoke at the event. Lee Greenwood sang three songs, so I got to meet the Great Lee Greenwood. Danny Goki sang three songs.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Rick Santorum, whom I love. He gave a speech. Brooke Rollins, the Secretary of Agriculture, she gave a speech. Our dear friend Shannon Breen, the suite, Shannon Bream was the MC. She spoke a little bit. Like, it was a long evening. And then it was the prophet Habakkuk there or Herbac, however you say? I mean, it's almost like at the Museum of the Bible, they were inspired by the Bible so much.
Starting point is 00:18:01 They wanted to have many speakers that are named in the Bible. canceled because of brother in Houston. So unfortunately, he cannot be there. But, yeah. But no, it was just so, you know, it's such a, it's such a delightful. Steve and Jackie Green are delightful home. They are wonderful. Yeah, wonderful people.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You know, brother and sister in Christ. And so just to see them and so many other wonderful, wonderful friends were there. So that was just a glorious, glorious event. But the heat folks, getting home, it was like 11, 15. night and you're trying to get an Uber and it was like 100 degrees at 1115 at night. It was unbelievable. Unbelievable. So, okay, the next day was July 4th. So you wake up, it is the supercentennial, it's the day of days. And I think there are a lot of people out there who would assume, oh, Eric Metaxus, he's getting some kind of VIP treatment or something like that. Think again,
Starting point is 00:18:57 I had no plans on July 4th. We, I tried to get, you know, something to be on the mall that night or whatever. Actually, on the third, we tried to get to the mall just to see, you know, the great American State Fair, whatever. There was no way to get in. It was by the time we actually got to the entrance, and again, have I mentioned, it was hot, insanely hot. By the time we got to the entrance, somebody made the decision.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I think it was the World Health Organization and Anthony Fauci, made a decision we're shutting down the Great American Mall, everyone has to leave because of the heat because people are fainting. So just as we get to the entrance, people are pouring out and you have like the National Guard in Camo telling us get out, get out, it's shut down because of the heat. And my attitude is like, in a free country, I'm allowed to faint from the heat. Like if I'm dumb enough to wander around and faint, like, sorry, but, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of. It's kind of kind of like shutting down the highway because somebody might crash. Like, yeah, people are free to speed and crash. We're not going to shut down the highway for those loony people or whatever. It's just
Starting point is 00:20:14 kind of a crazy, crazy thing. So anyway, so we couldn't get into the mall. So the next day, we decide, let's go to the mall. It's July 4th. So we go with a friend again down to the mall because I just want to get in, it is July 4th, 2026. I want to see everything. I want to be there. The lines, I mean, I don't know if I will ever understand this, but there were very, very, very, very, very long lines that were not moving one millimeter. So there are people just standing there in what looked like lines. The only reason it's a line is because eventually, I guess theoretically it's going to move, but they were not moving. They never moved. while we were there, and we were there for a while.
Starting point is 00:21:03 So we couldn't get in again. And then that night, I could not score any VIP tickets. So in case anybody thinks like I'm some big shot, I texted a few people, hey, nothing. Yeah, I remember you texted me and I reached out to my friend Nicholas Cage to see if you had any, you know, access to underground tunnels under the, you know, under the Constitution of the United States or the Declaration, whatever he ended up stealing in the first movie. He didn't have any. He said even those had lines.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So I got nothing. Like I was not, you know, I don't know. I know there are people out there who think like I'm a VIP or something, but evidently not, not according to the people that I texted asking to help me. So, so Suzanne and I, I mean, to be fair, once you hear about what's involved, if you got a VIP ticket, it would mean waiting in line for two hours. getting in there and sitting in this heat for hours and hours. And then what?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Then evidently, now I got to say the things that Trump does that I don't love, like deciding to speak at 9.30 p.m. Now, that's before the rain delay that chased everybody out. He's going to speak at like 930 or some insane thing. You know, why? I don't know why. There's people with kids there. you would think that he would speak at 7 or 7.30.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And then as soon as it gets dark at 9 o'clock, there's the fireworks. And everybody goes home. No, he decides he's going to speak at 930, which, again, I don't get. I find it insane. So we just realized, like, we don't want to be there anyway. And this is the same thing that happened during the inauguration. We got some tickets to one of these balls. Like, again, that's the best we could do.
Starting point is 00:22:56 But we got some ticket to something. the lines were so long it was so cold and insane we said we're we're going to watch it on tv we're not we're not we're not doing this this is not vip enough for us to to be willing to go through this hell so we we we just uh you know we watched the inauguration all this stuff from our or the ball or whatever from our hotel room where it was not it was above zero uh so similarly we just decided oh But then we got an invitation. Our friends at Prager You were in D.C. I mentioned this, right?
Starting point is 00:23:32 And we love Prager You more than anybody. They're just the best. We just absolutely, I mentioned that we were with Dennis Prager and Sue Prager a number of weeks ago in their home in Florida, visiting with Dennis. I just love him. I love the people around him, Alan Estrin and Marissa Strite. And these are just such deep. such deeply good people. And so we went to, they were meeting at a club. It's a private club in D.C. called the Ned. And so we went there around dinner time on the fourth. And I spoke about my book
Starting point is 00:24:11 Revolution. In case you haven't heard, I wrote a book called Revolution, the birth of the greatest nation, the history of the world. And I spoke about it there with some Jewish humor, you know, inserted in my comments. It was just a blessing to be with those people. And Chris Himes, I don't know if I think I told you this, this woman when it was all over came up to me because I had this kind of like a noise of comedy when I was at the podium.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I don't know why. I think just because the joy in the room, the Prager, you folks are such wonderful people. This spring, denim gets a softer, lighter update. Introducing Old Navy's drapey denim wide leg, a new fit that moves with you. It's everything you want denim to feel like for summer. easy, breathable, and effortlessly cool.
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Starting point is 00:25:19 And this woman, when it was all over, said, that I reminded her very, very much of Carl Reiner. I thought that is the greatest compliment anyone can give me. That's fantastic. And then I said, well, you marry me. And I was very embarrassed because it dawned on me. She's in. And I've already been married at least once for 30 years.
Starting point is 00:25:40 So I could not. But when the woman compliment he said, I remind her of Carl Ryan, I was like, that's like the greatest, that's the nicest thing anybody could say to me. And I was. That is high praise. Very high praise. I've never been compared to Carl Reiner before. But I thought, she whiz.
Starting point is 00:25:52 That was, so I have to find that woman and tell her, I cannot actually marry her. But it was so, it was just a joy. And there's so many people there, wonderful people. So again, I'm the biggest fan of Prager You. And Shabbas Kestenbaum was there. I'm pretty sure he's Jewish talking to him, talking to just all kinds of wonderful people that are standing strong. So really cool, really cool. And anyway, but Suzanne and I said, we're going to go to bed early.
Starting point is 00:26:25 We don't care to the Trump speech. We don't care about the stupid fireworks. Now, listen, folks, I'm not against fireworks, but neither am I a child. So I can live without fireworks. So I said, where is the metaxus that got excited about the quarter sticks in the M80s? That's totally different. That's like hands-on fireworks. That's like cherry bombs at the neighbors.
Starting point is 00:26:49 That's cool fireworks. No, but I was just like, you know what? I mean, I actually haven't mentioned this. On July 5th, the next day. Well, this, yeah, this is kind of the, this is, this is not you being ba humbug. You actually had some things happening. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, wait till you hear this. So July 5th, so this is two days ago.
Starting point is 00:27:08 If you wonder why I'm signing tired now, because I'm still tired. On July 5th, Sunday, July 5th, so the day after the 4th, I had to get up at 5 a.m. had it take a car to Leesburg, Virginia. So it's an hour away, Virginia, from where we're staying in D.C. to preach three, count them three times at Cornerstone Chapel in Leesburg, Virginia. Pastor Gary Hamrick, he's the pastor. He is a hero, one of my friends and an American hero. but I was preaching three services, and I had to be up at five to get the car, the 8 a.m. service to be there early for the 8 a.m. service. So I said, I'm going to skip the fireworks, going to skip the Trump speech, and I'm going to try to get some sleep so I can actually preach the word of God, which I take seriously. So thank God I fell asleep before the fireworks.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Suzanne said the fireworks woke her up, and she peeked through the window to watch some of them. Because even as far away as we were, you could still see the fireworks. But I slept through the whole thing, thank the Lord, woke up on the fifth, and we took the car out to Leesburg, Virginia. And I preached three services. And I want to say this. The church ordered 450 copies of my book, right? after the first service, which starts at 815, I went to the book line to sign books for people buying books until it was my time to speak in the second service, which began at 10.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Between when I started signing books and when it was time to go, they sold 390 books, and I signed most of those books. It was insane. Basically, they sold out the books after the first service. After the second service, I guess there were 60 books left. I signed those books, and it was done. I was done. I don't know what happened, but you can imagine the 8 a.m. service is the least well attended. Who's going to the 8 a.m. service when there's a 10 and a 12.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And it was like, you know, maybe a little more than half full. I mean, it was not, it was fairly full, but it was not as full as the 10 and the 12. So the 10 of the 12, tons of people, but there were basically no books left. So I assume most of those people bought it online or whatever, because the rank on Amazon yesterday hit number seven over all the books on Amazon, which is truly insane. Jill Biden's book is now over a thousand in the ranking, which tells you how these things work, right, that even though people don't want to buy her book, the New York Times shoved it to the front of the list when it came out, even though my book outsold her book. If you go to a bookstore, her book is front and center in the bookstore. You can't find my book. J.D. Vance's book is there, of course. But it's just interesting that my book is not in bookstores yet. I don't know what it's going to take. If you go to a Barnes & Noble or to another bookstore, and you feel able up to it, would you politely ask somebody in charge, not the clerk who's at the cashier,
Starting point is 00:30:47 but would you ask somebody, do you have revolution? It's, it's been on all the bestseller lists. If you ask them politely, just to mention it, I think it's a weird thing because I think I, maybe I've said this before, but Barnes & Noble, and I hate when people, people say this stuff and it's not true, but I think it's true this time. Barnes & Noble is shadow banning my book. If you go to the Barnes & Noble website and you type in the search bar under books, Revolution, my book doesn't come up. Think about that. The title is Revolution. It's one of the bestselling books in the country at the top of the best sellers in the country. It doesn't come up at Barnes & Noble. You have to scroll down to find it like it's number four.
Starting point is 00:31:40 or something under revolution. Like bizarre, bizarre. If you go to the bestsellers, it's not there. It's very weird. It's very weird. So I think somebody told me that someone at Barnes & Noble has something against my publisher. Now, I've got an imprint called Odysseus Books under Skyhorse. But I think because Skyhorse published Melania's book, somebody at Barnes & Noble has it out for Skyhur.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I have no idea. but can you imagine we're living at a time where they are trying to suppress my book. Now, my book, folks, it's not some maga book. It's a good book. Anybody, you know, who knows about the revolution who reads my book knows. I've done the scholarship, the research. It's a good book. You know, Eric, I'm on the website now for Barnes & Noble because I like to trust but verify.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And, yeah, the top suggestions that come up for books. It's like five at the bottom right away that have the pictures of five different books. But the dynamic search in the search bar when it comes up, I do see that they have suggestions. Yours shows up eventually down. But that's the bottom. Actually, my book is one of the best selling books in the country. Oh, no. It's just in the dynamic search bar.
Starting point is 00:32:59 But it's funny, the first one that pops up, and I think this will color sort of this conversation a little bit, is they're suggesting you want to order. just after putting the word revolution in, the book, Revolution in Our Time, The Black Panther Party's Promise to the People by Kecla Magoon, which is clearly a made-up name. Can't get enough of Magoon. Yeah, I need some Magoon. So if you want to order some Magoon...
Starting point is 00:33:26 Anything Magoon writes, you want to get your hands on it. So, but I'm saying like, when you experience this yourself, as I'm experiencing it, when you go into bookstores and it's nowhere to be found, you think, man, we're living in. weird times, and it has to be said, we're living in weird times. And there's a reason some people have gone half crazy and they think the earth is flat, because when you're lied to that much, it'll mess you up. It'll mess you up. And so, Prince of the Earth is actually a sphere. And also, the ancient Greeks knew that the Earth was a sphere. Aristotophanes figured this out
Starting point is 00:34:03 in the 5th century or the 4th century BC, in case you, you know. didn't know that. Anyway, it is kind of amazing that we're living at a time in America where this stuff is going on. I think it's important to share this kind of stuff. Now, I should say that we're going to be having a contest with my book. I think it went out to my email list today. If you're not getting my email list, folks, please go to Ericmataxis.com, sign up. Once or twice a week, we send an email with all kinds of stuff where I'm going to be speaking. and whenever the worst thing is when somebody says to me, I didn't know you were going to be in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Why didn't you tell me? Well, it's in every email, right? This Sunday I'm preaching at Prestonwood Baptist in Dallas, folks. So if you're not there, you want a sign book. You can't get a signed book unless you stand in line after one of the services of of Prestonwood Baptist. I will be there standing there waiting to meet you. I'm looking forward to meeting you.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Prestonwood Baptist this weekend in Dallas. please come. I, oh, but... It's a great church, by the way. Prestonwood Baptist in Dallas. It's a terrific church. A lot of my wife's family in Dallas goes there.
Starting point is 00:35:19 So I've been there many times and I will... I think I'll see some of your wife's family there. Speaking of which, when I was in line signing books at Cornerstallin, Chaplain Leesburg, Virginia, a man who looked amazingly like you, a little bit heavier, not much, but a little bit heavier.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Approached me in line, claimed to be your father. Yeah. And if I didn't know better, I would say this man is a charlatan and call security, but I happen to know it was your father. Well, in a lot of ways, he was wearing a disguise. It was an older Chris Himes man disguise that fits him to a T. So you aren't wrong. No, he, you aren't wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I love your father so much. And so to see him in line just make, just make him to be a T's, me so happy. It made me so. Any time, this is the funny thing is like I travel around the country and I always see people in line that are old friends that I haven't seen or whatever. There's a bunch that I'm even forgetting now that I've seen. Just they show up and kind of freak you out. Yeah. Nothing makes me happier. Yeah. It's a tricky thing and I've been with you when this happens. It's like I feel bad for you because there's so many people that you genuinely care about. But when you're traveling and you're not expecting to see them. Oh, I can't remember their names.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Yeah, no, yeah. I mean, you're brand. And it's very natural. I mean, these are good friends that I have, you know, well, actually yesterday, I was here in Connecticut with my mom, right? I drove up here yesterday. And I said, let's go to Stu Leonard's. We need to get a couple things at Stu Leonard's.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I love Stu Leonard's. Yeah. Like looking at the, at the cottage cheese or something. And I see a friend. Yeah. And I just freaked out. It was my friend Tim Washer. He was a comedian.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Oh. Oh, Tim. Yeah, he's great. I love Tim. Yeah, very funny guy. What the heck is going on around here, Tim? So, I mean, when I see old friends, I just get flooded with joy. I'm so happy. So Tim Washer, I'll probably have dinner with him here next. I didn't even know he was living around here. You know, it just makes me happy. Seeing your dad made me happy. And I forgot to say that on the night of the fifth, after I preached three times at Cornerstone Chapel in Virginia. I rested and then I had to go back to the Museum of the Bible to speak at a TPP USA Faith event, a make-heaven-crowded tour event. Steve Dase was there. We love Steve Dase. Obviously, Lucas Miles was there. And that was another fun, wonderful event.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And everybody who was there was supposed to get a free copy of Revolution. But the church that was affiliated, they had some hiccup. and they could not, I guess they left the books at the UPS, some weird thing. So people, I guess they're going to get mailed copies of Revolution. But the whole thing was. It got ugly, though. It was like I saw the footage. It was like a late night waffle house scrum, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:23 It was exactly like that. Yeah, everyone started throwing fist because, you know, the Revolution book wasn't there. And they said, we'll start a new revolution. People were climbing over the counter. And there was. And that's how freaky it got. There was no... Yeah, I think Candice had some theories about why the books weren't delivered, too.
Starting point is 00:38:42 So that was interesting. She said something about, I don't know, the Belgian soccer team. Yes, yes. Don't forget. Okay, so, but what I was, I think I was going to say was so the... Yeah, they didn't have the books. Oh, so they didn't have the... Anyway, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:00 So, but what I was going to say was at the end, of the TPSA faith thing. I can't really tell the story right now, but this is like when you make up a story, right? Like it was this long line of people who wanted pictures, but there was no books. So people coming up to me, they're talking to me, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:20 One of them works in DOJ, a young woman who works in DOJ and said stuff is coming out this week. Stay tuned. She couldn't tell me what it was, but like some of this, there's stuff happening, folks. This is a reminder. If you are not following two accounts on X,
Starting point is 00:39:36 Jim Cuncelor, who's on the show, James Howard Cuncelor, and coffee and COVID. I think the name is Jeff Childers. I don't know if he's related to Alyssa Chilers, I assume not. But Jeff Childers, you need to be reading people who, A, know what they're talking about, and B, because they really know what they're talking about, are encouraging. They're not just making happy talk, but they're encouraging. You need to hear their voices. So that's Jeff Childers. Coffee and COVID is his account.
Starting point is 00:40:12 And I subscribe to his substack now, but you need to check it out. And Jim Kuntler, obviously John Smirak fits in that group. There are just a few people who are worth listening to. But I just had to mention that. Okay, so a guy comes up to me in the line. He's the last guy. I was walking out because I was exhausted. after preaching three services and then now speaking to you.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I was like dead. I'm still dead. I'm exhausted. But it was a guy came up to me. He had a prophetic word for me. And all I can tell you is it was real. It was a real. One of those prophetic words, you go, that was God.
Starting point is 00:40:51 That was God. God actually speaks. It's kind of weird, but it's kind of true. It is true. And I think as a result of that prophetic word, I'm going to be going to Israel in October. I can't get into the details right now. but I think I would be going to Israel in October. I think I've mentioned we're relaunching the Bonhoeffer film October 7th.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Please write this down. It's going to be in theaters across the country. It's important that your church buy out the theater. It is very important to relaunch this film. The satanic left attacked it when it came out a year and a half ago. This is very important, especially during the times in which we live, the way Jews are being attacked. Very important.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Please mark this down, October 7th, that your church would buy out theaters, that you take this seriously in advance. We'll get information out that to you soon, but very important. I think I'm going to be on Flashpoint tonight. I'm not sure. Do they air tonight or would it be tomorrow? I think it's tonight, but I think I'm going to be. I think it's live. They go live quite often.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I think it could be live. sure, but I believe I'm going to be on Flashpoint tonight. Yeah. So if you watch Flashpoint, tune in. But, Chris, the one thing I wanted to say, and this concerns you, you already know this. I'm, I mentioned that I'm going to be at Prestonwood Baptist this weekend, right? In a week, so Saturday, the 18th of July, I'm going to be. I'm going to be at an event called Pray for Maine.
Starting point is 00:42:38 This is Maine, the state of Maine. I'm going to be up there. It's, I think, University of Maine. I think it's an Augusta, Maine or Orono, Maine. But if you go to my website, Ericmataxis.com, I'm going to be at a big event in Maine. That's Saturday, the 18th. The next day, I'm pretty sure I'm speaking at Ken Graves' Church in Bangor, Maine.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Ladies and gentlemen, Bangor, Maine. If you live in that area or if you have friends who live in that area, You got to tell them. You got to tell them. I also want to tell you that I'm going to be in Los Angeles, speaking on the night of July 22nd at an event, the American Freedom Alliance. Again, this is on my website, Los Angeles. I'm going to fly to Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:43:19 one of my favorite churches in the world. It is in Murphy'sboro World Outreach Church. I'll be speaking there the night of July 25th and the morning of July 26th. I think you need to be there if you're in the air. area that's not too far from Nashville. Then I go to London for the Socrates and the city, Oxford retreat. We're going to be in Oxford, actually, flying to London, but it's going to be in Oxford.
Starting point is 00:43:43 A lot of great interviews there. I fly from there back to Dallas. I'm going to be speaking in Dallas in Grapevine, actually, at the Elevate Life Church. It's getting crazy. I'm going to be there in Dallas speaking at that. I just decided I want to write a book on the American Revolution because this is extremely important. Unless Americans know our story, we cannot possibly continue to keep the Republic.

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