The Eric Metaxas Show - #24- Pastor Andrew Sedra

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Pastor Andrew Sedra joins me after a shocking attack that has Australians shaken. We talk antisemitism, Israel, and why the West cannot survive without real Christian confidence.  CHAPTERS (0:00) I...ntro (4:25) Kevin McCullough Joins (15:19) Andrew Sedra Joins (17:40) Bondi Beach Attack (39:27) How Christians RespondSponsors: Secure Your Future with a Gold IRA: http://metaxasgoldira.comMyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: http://mypillow.com ten Boom Coffee— Save 10% with code ERIC: http://tenboom.coffee Christian Solidarity International: http://csi-usa.org/metaxas/ Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: http://legalhelpcenter.com Help Save Lives in Israel Today: http://savinglifeisrael.org

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey there, folks. It's a new week. Christmas is coming up. Oh, my goodness. Okay, first of all, I want to mention my guest today. This is a big deal. You heard about this absolutely horrifying killing of a number of Jews because they were Jews in Australia. I'm going to be talking to a friend, a pastor, an Australian pastor, Andrew Cedra in just a moment. He is a former Muslim. He knows this world. It's a big deal that we got him for today to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:00:41 There's a lot to talk about, but that's the main thing we're going to talk about today. So buckle up. He's an amazing pastor, Andrew Cedra. I want to remind you before we get to Pastor Andrew Cedra. Two things. We have a new sponsor on this program. It is Genesis Gold. Genesis gold, a lot of people are saying, I want gold, I want silver, I want to, okay, yes, and we are recommending you go to Genesis Gold. The website actually is metaxis gold IRA.com. And I'm asking you to do me a favor to support this program. This is a new sponsor. Please go to metaxis gold IRA.com. You sign up for a free gold guide there. If you do that, I'll be grateful to you.
Starting point is 00:01:30 We trust these folks. These are good folks, right? So they're a brand new sponsor. Metaxusgoldir.ira.com. You can trust them, right? I don't say that lightly. We're very careful who we partner with. Metaxusgoldir.com is the website.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Metaxusgoldir.org. These are good folks. They want to help you. They want to help all of us. We're on the same boat here. I also want to remind you, because of the time of year, it is you know we're doing this thing with CSI Christian Solidarity International we're making it possible for you to participate in actually freeing slaves in sedan we've told the story on this
Starting point is 00:02:12 program many times many of you know this is real we do this every year this is the time to do it this is the week to do it if you go to my website ericmataxis.com the banner will come up for CSI Christian Solidarity International to free a slave in sedan it's $250. If you can't do that, anything you can do. This is not about, you know, we want people only to give $250. Whatever you can do, some people can do $250. If you can do $250 or more, every $250, freeze a slave and sets them up in a life of freedom. It is a magnificent opportunity to live out your faith.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I don't really know what's the downside of doing something like this. This is a beautiful, beautiful thing. You're doing it to others as you would have others do unto you. You're literally freeing a slave. there are people depending on you. CSI can't do it without you. That's why they come to us every year and we come to you every year.
Starting point is 00:03:06 So please go to Metaxus. Ericmetaxis.com and the banner will come up. All the info is there. You can even, if you want to just give a little bit per month, also want to say, before we get to our guest, there's a phone number.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I always forget this. If you prefer to call, the phone number is 888-253-3522 to free a slave. 888-253-3-353-3-3-3-3-3-3. 3522, 888, 253, 3522. And I say this, if there's anybody out there that wants to give a gigantic gift of $15,000, I will spend an evening with you, have dinner with you, whether it's here in the city,
Starting point is 00:03:43 New York, or in your town, we'll work it out. We do that if anybody wants to do that. I just make myself available. It can be a group of couples, whatever you want, I just make myself available for the evening. If anybody can give $15,000. But we're looking for small gifts, $250. frees a slave and anything below that helps to free slaves. So please go to Eric Mataxis.com to do that.
Starting point is 00:04:07 The number 8882533522. When we come back, I'm talking to Pastor Andrew Sedra. Kind of a big deal, kind of a big subject. We'll be right back. Hey there, folks. Welcome back. As you know, every year at this time, we try to get you excited. about what we're excited about. What are we excited about? We're excited about literally freeing slaves in Sudan. This is almost unbelievable. I wanted to bring our friend Kevin McCullough on the program. He's been involved with CSI forever. Kevin, welcome back. Hey, Eric, good to see you. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. This, I keep saying this is like the greatest way to express your faith is to do this, you know, or to do this for your family members and to say that we've decided as a family we want to do this, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:06 grandpa in your name we freed a slave whatever but i i sometimes think people don't even believe this is real like it's so amazing to me that that we get to do this it's it seems hard to believe well we kind of think because of somebody who wrote a great book about wilberforce and um the general abolitionist movement as a whole we tend to think in 2025 that slavery doesn't exist anymore and the sad reality is is that there is more slavery on planet earth now than there has ever been been in human history. And so when we're talking about wanting to do something tangibly to end that practice, to bring it to an end, this is one of the few options out there that people have the chance to, you know, actually get their arms around and say, yeah, we're going to do something about this.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Well, folks, if you want to do something about this, let me just tell you real quick before we get into more details. If you go to my website, it's my name, Ericmataxis.com. If you go to Ericmataxis.com, the banner will come by. You can click on it. And all the information that we're going to talk about is there. Ericmetaxis.com. I'll give you a phone number in a moment. But Kevin, what are the details of this for people that haven't heard this before? So how does this happen? You know, it sounds so theoretical. The ask for the person that you're talking to today is $250. And I usually want to know what that is for. And I will just say that for $250, you can basically take someone who's living a living death and bring them to life again.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And here's what that looks like. Most of these slaves were taken 15, 20, 25 years ago at the height of the Sudanese Civil War. The powers of planet Earth come in and solve the war, but care nothing about the slaves that had been taken during the war. And these are largely women that were stolen as children, taken to the north, made slaves. They've been forced to do manual labor. They've been forced to sexually serve their slave masters. They've been forced to in every way basically be exposed to humiliation, abuse. And by the way, I just want to be real clear. This comes to you, folks, courtesy of the religion of peace, Islam. Thank you very much. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. And these are observers of Jesus and the people that have taken them captive
Starting point is 00:07:24 are Islamists. And what has happened is that over, you know, ending the war, war was great, but people went, wait a minute, you've got 185,000 people in captivity that you didn't free. And so Christian Solidary International, our very good partner in this work, went to work many years ago and said, we're going to try to free as many of them as we can. Now, to date, more than 135,000 have been in fact liberated, which is great. But that leaves about, we believe, 35 to 45,000 that may still be in captivity. And some of them have had children while in captivity and so there's the exact number is not known. But the way it works is very simple. For those of you watching or listening, you give a gift. That gift is turned into not just a
Starting point is 00:08:07 negotiation that achieves the freedom of the slave, but then more importantly, gives the slave all of the resources they need to establish a life back home in South Sudan where they are from, including things like a year's worth of food, a year's worth of seed to plant the next year's worth of food, utensils to cook and clean and garden and fish with, things to keep them insulated from the weather like blankets in the winter and tarps in the summer. And then a small little sheet goat that will allow them to produce milk, cheese, and other goats that they can use a micro-winterprice. Are you saying a he goat can't? Nope. Yeah, we're saying it. Unlike, unlike Democratic women in America, goats know what their sex is. Isn't that interesting?
Starting point is 00:08:51 Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. This is. crazy stuff. Okay, so seriously, though, so we set these folks up, we free them, we bring them into freedom, that's a whole story, and then we set them up in a life of freedom, which includes giving them a she goat, which will give them milk. It's amazing. They'll give them some micro-enterprice, and basically that little what's called bad hope, which for $250 is way more than just a bag. I mean, the two bags of seed and sorghum alone are way, way bigger than that, but that gives them everything they need to start their life over. And then the best part, Eric, is that once they're free, they get to go back and live with family that they
Starting point is 00:09:27 may have lost complete track with, or if there are no family members surviving, CSI has done an amazing job of developing these communities where former slaves can have a community with each other and basically as Christian sisters in Jesus be able to be to one another, what nobody's been able to be to them to this point in time in their life, because they've never had friends. some of the slave masters disallowed their slaves to speak the entire time they were in captivity or at the very minimum not around the family at all. And if they defied that, there were beatings. There was one slave who had her tongue nailed to a tree. There's all kinds of horrific things that they've experienced. So the pain is great, but the healing is greater. And Jesus is at the core of it.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And for $250, an Eric Metaxus listener or viewer can literally set someone free for life. and give them a brand new life here. Folks, you got to do this. You got to do this in one way or the other. Whatever you can do. Some of you can do 250 or multiples of 250. Some of you can do $50. Some of you want to just give a little bit per month, which adds up.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Whatever you can do, please, folks, join us in this. I can't think of any more clear expression of your Christian faith than this. for many reasons. The phone number is 888-253-3522. 888-253-3522. Or just go to Ericmetaxis.com. When you go to Ericmetaxis.com, you'll see the banner. You click on it. All the information comes up. Kevin, this is a big deal. I'm just amazed that we get to do this. And I just, any, final thoughts before we go. I just think that if you want to celebrate Christmas in a way that really magnifies what it's all about, you know, Jesus came as a baby in that manger and he had these little tiny shoulders and yet on those shoulders lay the weights of the whole world, including slavery,
Starting point is 00:11:35 including sin. And today we get to enter into that and help set those people free and say, because of Jesus, you will have a new life and a new life forever. Very beautifully put. Ericmetaxis.com is the way you can do this, folks. Ericmataxis.com. You'll see the band will come up for CSI or the phone number 888-253-3522, 888-253-3522. Please jump on this. This is a great thing. Kevin McCullough, God bless you, my friend.
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Starting point is 00:15:49 Eric Matakas, thank you for the honor. We're here in what I call the gay communist state of Australia, and we're watching the rise of Islam happening in real time, just like what's happening with you guys in New York, but finally we're seeing the full manifestation of Islam, which is literally killing Jews, and next will be the Christians. Well, I have no doubt about that, And I think that there are many people who over the decades, I think, you know, you don't want to believe it.
Starting point is 00:16:22 You want to believe that it's something that, well, it waxes and wanes, but come on. Well, it seems clear that their plan really is to take over. It's not just theoretical sometime in the future, but they're enacting it right now. What happened yesterday in Australia? Help us understand, for those of us who didn't get the new. news or whatever. Most, if not all Australians at the moment, are in shock. They are in big, massive shock. It's literally our 9-11 moment or October 7th, simply because we don't actually have guns here. So this is literally the biggest massacre since they took the guns away from
Starting point is 00:17:04 Australia. So I want you to understand from an Australian context, having 16 people die called blood of citizens, that is equivalent to us to 9-11 or some crazy things. So people are freaked out, people are very scared, people are very shocked of what is happening
Starting point is 00:17:22 and what is taking place and finally they're coming into contact with reality that Islam was not really here to immigrate but Islam was actually here to invade that Islam wasn't here to live and let live but Islam was here to conquer and take up.
Starting point is 00:17:39 and Islam is not here to play religious karaoke and coexist, but it's here to dominate. You got us seeing that in New York, but now finally people are coming into contact with reality that October 7th wasn't just something in the Middle East. It now has been transferred thousands of kilometers away all the way from Israel to Australia. How many, give us the background on this. How many Jewish people were killed? Because I think you said it, but it sounds updated from what I read earlier today. We have at least 16 people that died.
Starting point is 00:18:18 A young girl that was 10 years old. We had two Jewish rabbis. And we also had at least one young adult. And there was also one Holocaust survivor. But you're looking at at least 16 people. I want to be on San Bondi. Bondar is pretty much like our Jewish area here. So it's pretty much 80 to 90% Jews.
Starting point is 00:18:43 So that attack was particularly targeted towards a Jewish area and a Jewish community. What's crazy about that too is that it's not really new. We literally had in Australia and Sydney two days after October 7th, if you have came across a very famous video where you had hundreds of Muslims screaming on the streets of Sydney, but particularly on our iconic venue, Sydney Opera House, they were screaming, gasser Jews, gasser Jews. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:19:13 They were not joking about it. Just two years later, we eventually saw the literal manifestation where at least 16 people, most of them were Jewish, died and called blood on the street. Who perpetrated this? It's a father and son who did this? It's a father and the son. they are Pakistani slash Lebanese slash Iraqi, but mostly Pakistani.
Starting point is 00:19:39 They were inspired by ISIS and the son went to Islamic theological school. So the whole attack is Islamic jihad in action. It's a father and a son. It's a very unique situation. It's the whole family involved. There was also two bombs that were about to explode that by the grace of God, the police were actually able to stop it. So you were supposed to really have around the fact that we had 16 people died, that was a miracle.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I think it was supposed to be 50 to 100 people. You had two people who were shooting on thousands of people that were at least 2,000 Jews celebrating Hanukkah. And on top of that, we got no guns here. So you were looking at around 50 to 100 people killed, not including the bond. But by the grace of God, the attack was stopped. And also by the grace of God, the two bombs were stopped. Well, I have to ask you, I mean, were there not police nearby? I'm just amazed that 16 people can.
Starting point is 00:20:46 You need to understand, Australia is a socialist gay utopia. We don't have this stuff happening. So you've got to understand the police is dealing with a case that is very new and very unique. They're dealing with war with Australia is theoretical. is at peace 24-7. So there was literally a girl police that were there staring and froze for like 10 to 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:21:10 simply because the police was very shocked at the experience to see two middle, to see two brown slash middle eastern Pakistani Muslim men firing gun. The police was in shock of what is going on. They kind of probably didn't even know what to do.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Do they not have guns themselves, the police? They do have guns, but again, you're dealing with a population that has zero level of violence. So the police will be dealing with that circumstance and it's like, what is going on? So it was a very, very, very challenging thing for the police to deal with. We're not like New York and America, with a lot of guns everywhere. So for us here in Australia, that is a very weird experience. Hey there, folks. Quick word from today's sponsor. When you hear about rockets, drones, missiles, or a terror attack in Israel, somebody has to rush in after the sirens. That is Magin David Adon, Israel's National Emergency Medical Service, basically Israel's 911. They dispatch every ambulance in the country, take thousands of emergency calls every day, and they also collect, process, and distribute the nation's blood supply for civilians and the IDF. Since October 7th, Magin Davita Dome says they've lost 40 of their people.
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Starting point is 00:23:04 What is your background? Because I mentioned earlier that you grew up in Egypt, in a Muslim home. Tell us your background, Andrew. So my name is Andrew. I came to Australia as a religious refugee in 2007. We were the initial Coptics or the pagans that when Mark came to Egypt in 5018, all of Egypt became Christian, so my family were part of the family that became Christian long, long time ago.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But what happened in Egypt in the 600s, Islam took over by force. It took over by Egypt when the false, evil, demonic prophet Muhammad came and sent that message to the Christian nation to the Byzantine Empire at the time. And they told Egypt, if you surrender, you will have peace. The church at the time, the Coptic church was very weak, woke. It was literally gay and liberal, so they didn't end up fighting with him. They ended up sending to Muhammad a Coptic woman. Her name was Mary the Coptic to negotiate with him.
Starting point is 00:24:07 So Islam ended up leaving Egypt for a few years to come back again in 632 to take over Egypt backfalls. So across the last 1500 years, Egypt where I was born, went from 90% Christian to 10% Christian from 0% Muslim to 90% Muslim. So we were the initial Coptic population that was literally killed, butchered, genocided,
Starting point is 00:24:38 they had the land stolen and the woman raped. So that's kind of my backgrounds. And then finally in 2007, my dad ended up escaping. I didn't know you would go back 2,000 years, but please continue you. Sorry, yeah. It's good to get the history, honestly, of course it is.
Starting point is 00:24:54 But your own story as well. So we ended up as Coptic Christians coming to Australia as religious refugees in 2007. My dad was saved as part of the revival or the Great Awakening that is happening to the West. And a part of it reached Egypt. So my dad was very, very passionate about preaching the gospel, which is illegal in the Middle East. I know Qatar has been. What year your father was a Muslim in Egypt who became a Christian? No, he was a Coptic who became more of a Pentecostal, charismatic Christian.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Okay, so I misspoke then saying that you come from a Muslim background. You come from Egypt, but so your father was a Coptic Christian, but obviously he becomes evangelical Pentecostal, and is very bold about preaching and had to leave Egypt because of the boldness of his preaching. Yes. I know I've been listening to crazy Tucker Carlson a few moments ago declaring that it is more peaceful and nicer for a Christian to live in Qatar than to live in Israel. That's a very, very big law.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Across all the Islamic world in Egypt and Qatar, we had what you call blasphemy laws, which means if you ever dare to proclaim the name of Jesus in the public square, if you preach the Bible in the streets of the nation, if you dare to critique Islam. Islam on Muhammad, you will go to jail at least for five years and get tortured or die or you will get killed on the streets of Egypt by Muslim Brotherhood. Do you think Tucker doesn't know this? I mean, I'm absolutely fascinated because until recently I thought well of Tucker and now I'm so confused by the things that he's been saying. I'm absolutely baffled. It is heartbreaking watching what's happening to Tucker because I grew up in the area.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I grew up in that region. And it does not make sense. He's a very, very smart guy. I don't want to give reasonable intention to his heart, but nothing that he's doing makes sense at all. The reality is across the Middle East, the Great Commission is a criminal offense, and having a revival is illegal.
Starting point is 00:27:09 That is just a fact. You've got apostasy laws, which means if any Muslim become the Christian, they can get killed on the street or go to jail. So I'm very confused by the crowd that he's saying. It's very confusing. I'm guessing. I'm guessing. But I think the reason he says this is that he's completely unfamiliar with evangelical Christian faith. And when he says Christian, he's thinking an Episcopalian who maybe actually believes the Nicene Creed, that's a Christian. But the problem is that
Starting point is 00:27:40 Christians like you and me who believe in preaching the good news of Jesus Christ, they will not tolerate that in places like Qatar, and he doesn't seem to be aware of that. So he thinks that, well, they let you live there. So, you know, that's tolerance. But obviously they don't believe in freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or any of those things that we believe in in the West. Hey there, folks. As hard as it may be for us to believe, especially for in America, there are people in other parts of the world who have literally been enslaved because of their faith in Jesus Christ, some of them for decades. Hundreds of thousands of them have been persecuted and enslaved in the Sudan.
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Starting point is 00:29:08 888-253-3522. Or go to Ericmataksis.com and click on the banner. You'll see it, Ericmataksis.com. Click on the banner. Please give someone the gift of getting their life back. Provide life and freedom for someone right now. God bless you. And that is why I started the whole thing with the history of Egypt, because across the Middle East, all you need to do is to check the history of the region. Christianity was literally genocided. Libya used to be Christian now Muslim. Algeria used to be Christian now, smoothed in Turkey, the great Constantable Empire, the capital of Christendom, used to be Christian now, Muslim, Israel,
Starting point is 00:29:50 used to be Christian until Omar bin al-Az took over 637. You look across all of the Middle East, you got Assyria, Assyrians got genocided, you got the Armenian genocide. I'm very confused by Thaka, because if you study any history before 1950, Christian were literally genocided by the millions from the whole region. In fact, the only place where the Christian population is growing is actually in Israel. And that is just a fact. There is no Zionist dispensationalist, whatever world you.
Starting point is 00:30:29 This is just fun facts. So it's a very, very dark time I feel like for the conservative movement in America because I'm watching them turn toward Islam and I'm like, dude, you have no idea what you're dealing with because firstly they're going to go for the Zionism. then they're going to go for the Jews, then they're going to go over the Christians, then they're going to go for the gays, then they're going to go over the communists, then they're going to come for you. It's only a matter of time before the Muslims come after you. What do you think will happen in Australia? In other words, my guess, because Australia is,
Starting point is 00:31:03 however you described it, as sort of a communist gay utopia, that they will do what is typically done. They will say, well, this is a one-off. We don't want to attack our Muslim brothers and sisters. And it's just a strange crime and it won't happen again. And, you know, I would like to believe that's true. There's a couple of maniacs. But I guess you have to wonder, why would a father and son try to murder scores of Jews? Why would a, it's one thing for one person. For two people, they've clearly thought this through and they think that they're glorifying Allah by murdering Jews.
Starting point is 00:31:45 So I guess I'm curious what you think most Australians will make of this. I am hopeful in the people. I'm not hopeful in the government. The reason I'm hopeful with the people, Australians are very fragile and weak and not very strong people.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So I can only imagine if they were very, very scared of COVID, when there was like zero upon zero one, that's right. I can only imagine they're going to be very scared with the scene that they just saw. What I would love them to do, I would love for them to be actually taking the prophetic warning from the Lord that there is an evil demonic scheme across Australia to take over. You guys, Eric, had had it in New York for some reason in 1993. You got to had the explosion next to the Twin Tower and New York didn't listen.
Starting point is 00:32:36 you had 2001, where you literally had 3,000 Americans die when that violent, evil, demonic, Muslim man crashed into the World Trade Center and he screamed, victory to Allah, death to America, Allahabad. Like, it's very common sense. And then, just a few months ago, they literally elected a Muslim mayor. My prayer and hope that Australia was heed
Starting point is 00:33:02 to the prophetic warning from the Lord, God is so kind to give Australia a warning of what is yet to take place if genuine repentance doesn't happen. Well, I guess this is the question, Andrew. You know, when we talk about, I put this on X this morning, but it's one thing to say, oh, radical Islam is murderous and bad and the Muslims are taking over and you say, okay, the question is, do the Christians believe their faith enough to fight against it? And I don't mean fight with guns. But the point is, are you the kind of Christian that is at war with evil?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Or are you the kind of Christian that says, well, I don't want to create any trouble. And I don't really feel like I want to push my Christianity on anybody. I mean, if that's the kind of Christianity you have, there's no doubt that Islam is going to take over. It was if you don't have a cultural confidence to say, this is who we are. We're a Christian nation. Maybe we're not officially a Christian nation, but we're a nation of mostly Christians. We celebrate Christmas. We have religious liberty.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So if you want to be a Muslim or an agnostic or an atheist or whatever, you're free to come here. But we are going to celebrate our faith. We're going to live out our faith. If Christians are not living out their faith, the tepid, secular West is dead. There's no way for the tepid secular rift. of the West to stand against the radical Islamists. There's just no way. And so it seems to me that they really believe in what they believe,
Starting point is 00:34:41 but many people on our side who maybe say, well, I'm a Christian, but they're basically almost nothing. They're not willing to stand up for what they believe, and they're not willing to die for what they believe. Eric, I'm often trying to communicate a worldview to Americans. It's very hard. I have a lot of hope in America. I'm fighting here in Australia.
Starting point is 00:35:01 but we don't have guns. So people here have kind of been dematuralized, not practically but spiritually. But I do have hope in America land of the free home of the brave that they're going to be able to look at what's happening in Australia, what's happening in UK, what's happening in France, what's happening in Israel,
Starting point is 00:35:21 and what's happening across Europe, and actually get the wisdom and discernment to realize what you're dealing with. Because again, I'm trying to download to you. a worldview. You have never lived in the Middle East. So a Muslim views the whole world through two lenses. Every single area, every single nation, every single civilization, every single place, space and culture, it's either Dar al-Harb, which means it's a place of war or a house of war, or it's either Dar al-Salaam, which means it's a house of peace and a house of Islam.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So every single Muslim, radical or not radical? And there is no really big. different between radical Muslim and not radical Muslim because Islam is radical. The problem is a Muslim, the problem in Islam, and Islam by nature is very, very, very radical. If you didn't know, Egypt is not like an ISIS country. It's a moderate Muslim country. So when people say moderate Islam, Islam is very radical
Starting point is 00:36:23 in every way, shape and form. So Islam used every single nation and every single civilization every single piece of land, it's either where they are, it's a house of peace or a house of war. So right now, Egypt is a house of peace. The way a house of war becomes a house of peace is through three things have to happen.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Number one, the nation has to become majority Muslim. Right now in New York, you have seen the rise of Islam. I was there a few months ago, and I couldn't walk more than 300 meters without seeing someone praying literally every 200 meters. Literally. I saw literally every 200 to 300 meters, speakers blasting from Manhattan to Times Square with the Quran playing literally on the street. So you're looking at least at one out of 10 people in New York City, there are Muslim.
Starting point is 00:37:18 So the way you transform a city from a house of war to house of peace, number one, they need to become majority Muslim. That is already happening across the West. The second thing, you need to infiltrate and conquer every single institutional and cultural influence. And number three, you have to establish some form of Sharia law. So right now, America is literally a house of war. I want to make you understand, Islam is at war 24-7. The no peace. That is the reason in the mind of the jihadist,
Starting point is 00:38:00 and in the mind of the average Muslim, they are not at home. They are at war. They didn't come here for a better life and for better money and to enjoy land of the free and home of the brave. That's not what they came for. They came here to conquer. And this is a problem, Eric. We have so many peace leaders and peacetime gospel,
Starting point is 00:38:24 but we cannot fathom the wartime gospel. It's literally like when you preach about, the Detrick Bonhoffer and the natification of the church era, most churches and most Americas and most Westerns, they cannot comprehend how do you live when your enemy is at war 24-7? So while you're singing kumbaya songs on Sunday and practicing religious ritualism and singing spiritual karaoke, you had a very militant religion that is,
Starting point is 00:38:59 here to conquer. Well, this is the reality. And I guess the question is how many people will wake up to this? I think that we need revival. I think we have the beginnings of revival happening. And there are people waking up to this. But just hearing you, Andrew, I'm just grateful that you would come on today, especially with what's happened in Australia to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:39:27 We are waking up in case folks want to know what to do. folks, look at Jesus, keep your eyes on Jesus, ask him to lead you and to guide you so that you can be fully Christian, not just sort of Christian, but fully Christian, living out your faith, because that's really the only answer to everything we have here. Pastor Andrew Cedra, God bless you. Thank you, my friend, for coming on the program. Thank you for the honor, I have met Texas. We love you guys. May God bless America and God bless you all. Folks, listen, if you've been injured in an accident or someone you love has been, this is something you really need to hear. I've been talking with the team over at Legal Help Center, and they're absolutely committed to helping people just like you understand your rights and figure out what your case may truly be worth.
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