The Eric Metaxas Show - #26 - Mel K

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

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Hey there, folks. Welcome. My guest today is Mel K. No one can pronounce her last name, including Mel K. And so we just go by Mel K. But she is, there's almost no way to describe her. She's an amazing journalist. She brings us information every time she's on her that you're not going to hear it anywhere else. She is really in the weeds doing amazing, amazing work. She knew all about the deep state before any of us did. And so we're going to be talking about everything that is going on. Before we bring on Mel Kay, I want to remind you we have a new sponsor on the program. It's Genesis Gold, and we're asking you, or I'm asking you, to do me a personal favor. Go to metaxis gold IRA.com, Metaxusgold IRA.com. And you get a free gold guide. If you don't mind, I would appreciate that. They're a new sponsor.

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I told you that we would have Mel K on the program. I believe I'm spelling that. I mean, I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly. Is K? Is that the right pronunciation Mel? Yes, yes, it is. Thank you, sir. I am excited to be here.

You're one of my favorite people. So thank you. Well, you are always like just, there's so much. So I don't even know where to start with you. It's like I'm already excited. I don't know what we're talking about. Where should we start? Wherever you want to start.

I mean, I think we have to start being very honest about that our country is under attack. And the longer that we pretend that it's not, the longer it will be till it's over. So anywhere you want to go, I'm in. Well, that statement right there are countries under attack. I agree with that. What do you mean by that? Well, you know, I have a new book coming out called Infiltration Instead of Invasion. America betrayed 1944 to 1954, where I trace exactly how our country got captured.

And it talks a lot about the Dulles brothers and what they were doing in Switzerland during World War II to set up the international infrastructure that is supranational. And what I believe at this point is that since John Foster Dolis, who was also running the Council of Foreign Relations, became the head of the State Department and his brother became the head of the CIA. Now, you have to know, first and foremost, because we have so much lawfare, that both Dolis brothers were Wall Street lawyers. And then they ended up taking over the State Department and international intelligence. And I'm at the point where I believe the CIA was created to protect the international superfluous. for a national network of international banks, international organizations, and NGOs, and had changed their entire dynamic, starting with the Secretary of State, John Foster Dolis, and the CIA being one in the same, essentially, to protect the international infrastructure that they clearly built, and I

prove in my book that they built it, and that we have an international intelligence problem with the CIA, particularly in all of our embassies. So, I mean, we really have to start to look at what really happened to America. And I believe that we are still dealing with this issue of the State Department, along with their money bags, black money budget out of USAID. Their black budget, this year the CIA has a $100 billion budget. And it's opaque. And on top of that, they're totally protected in the embassies. A lot of them even have titles in the embassies.

But they're actually CIA agents working with MIC. to protect the international infrastructure that most people don't even know exists. So we do have to be very honest that we were deceived after World War II on grand scale. And then we, the people of the United States, I fully believe, not only our taxpayer dollars paid for the entire Cold War and the entire war on terror, which was an undefined tactic turned on us, but the United States taxpayers, I believe, have fully and completely paid trillions of dollars into the climate and the globalist agenda to end in Agenda 2030. So it's time to be honest that our country has been captured by a supernational group

that does not have loyalty or allegiance to the people of this country. I think, I hope a lot of people listening to this program are tracking with this, that we have, we've seen this. You know, a lot of us woke up to this late. I didn't, I remember it, maybe it was November. of 2020, when I first heard the term deep state, and I thought, what? Like what? Is that a thing? What? And then you realize over time more and more and more that there has been this

entrenched bureaucracy working against we the people. And so the question is, where did it start? And you know, to me, I began to realize, okay, clearly they did kill Kennedy. Like, yes, we know back then they were already entrenched. You're tracing it back to the Dulles Brothers, OSS, before CIA. They were creating this thing. Now, you know, there are people for whom this just sounds like conspiracy theory.

But the problem, folks, is like, we now know we have the receipts. It's no longer like, well, who's to say? We have. And I know that in your new book, Mel Kay, you know, you bring the receipts. I do. This is real. So then the only, the first question I'll ask is, do you suppose President Trump is aware of this? And is he trying to dismantle this?

Yes, I do believe he's aware of it. And we have to also, as I said, the Dolos brothers were Wall Street lawyers. And we are not looking enough at the lawyers in this country, particularly the lawfare people and if they are actually CIA. Because don't forget, if you do even Google it about CIA in our embassies. and of course, Ram Emanuel was running the Japan embassy during the auto pen presidency, and Brzezinski's kid was running the Polish embassy during the auto pen presidency.

And both of these people are Obama, acolytes, and frankly, globalists. So what we are dealing with is a fundamental need for the American people to just set aside what they believe to be true because they know something's been wrong and they're not sure what. They know money's disappearing in the trillions

and they're not sure where. And I actually track it to the Bank of International Settlements because during, and you're right, in my book, I put a lot of, I put all these documents that I read, including the Red House papers, which were released in the 60s, all the way through what's come out now. And it appears that during the last few years of World War II, particularly in 1944, there was a big meeting. in so in Switzerland the Bank of International Settlements was working with the Reich Bank which was Shreff running that and the Bank of England which was this guy Norman running that and for whatever reason Alan Dulles was involved in the Bank of International settlements and the Kittrick running the Bank of International settlements was an American lawyer banker as well So what we're dealing with is that they created in the end years, the fog of the end of the war, before Hitler surrendered, all of these people, the international organization creators, the international banking system, all of these people, they created a way to funnel the money that was looted and stolen from the 60 million people that had their lives destroyed in Europe during World War II through the Bank of International settlements, which then,

in 45, they gave the Bank of International Settlements total immunity and then extended that to 62 banks under the Bank of International Settlements, including the IMF and the World Bank. So to this day, they are protected. They are not allowed to be audited. They don't, Switzerland, where it is, doesn't even have jurisdiction over it. It is completely opaque. And frankly, it was at that time that they were creating this global infrastructure. So when H.W. Bush walked on the floor of the United Nations and told us that there was a new world order run by the UN. He left out financial world order. And I believe that this international order was based on that finance above nations could control nations. And of course, later on, they added the UN and then 76 international

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We know they're globalist forces. We know they're anti-freedom, anti-American, anti-we-the-people forces. We know that. The question is, what is the provenance of all of it? In other words, who are the Dulles brothers in 1944? Where does this come from ultimately? When did this begin?

I think it began before World War I, frankly. But when they proposed the Dawes plan and the Young plan that created the Bank of International settlements, they decided that somehow, first of all, we were told that Switzerland was neutral. That is not true. Switzerland was just where they were setting up the future after World War II. And it's my belief that these wars for profit, as Smedley Butler told us, after World War I, have always benefited at all the way going to the top. So it's always about transferring wealth to the top and reducing liberty and freedom for the people as they go, which is also why I believe that at the end of World War II at this Red House meeting where they were talking about getting all of the billions and trillions of dollars through out of Germany into the Bank of International settlements into Argentina. A lot of that came here.

Many of us know about Operation Paperclip, which is a very ugly and immoral situation in America that most people don't know about. But it turns out that there were tens of thousands of supposedly the best Nazis. And what we have to remember is that Nazis are socialist. So, you know, people think Nazi and they think Hitler and, you know, marching and all that. No, no. They are national socialist, which is the Democrat socialist of America, are an internationally funded globalist group that follow the same totalitarian ideology that they did. So at this point, what I'm saying is that I believe Trump is dismantling.

this from the top down, meaning the Bank of International Settlements, the International Banking System. That is who he's fighting with the tariffs and all of that and everything that he's doing, particularly right now the EU and the UK, I know people want to hold on to the Council of Foreign Relations and Brookings and Trilateral Commission idea that we are not an independent nation and that we are still somehow attached to, you know, Europe and the UK. It's not true. They are not, the EU is not free anymore. It is turning into what I call the Fourth Reich. I don't see how you don't see that if you really look at what they're doing to their own countries

that are stuck and captured inside there. But I also believe that they planned a World War III way back after the end of World War II to culminate in Agenda 2030. So where we are now is that Donald Trump knows that Russiagate was not just about overthrowing the democratically elected president of the. the United States of America. It was about stopping the change of direction in diplomacy with Russia and Europe. So Trump was not allowed to change course from the original documents of the project for

the new American sentence. He was not allowed to make nice, nice with Putin under any circumstances because that changes the narrative that they're trying to set up. Exactly. And frankly, if you listen to George Soros, you know, in 1993, George Soros wrote a document that's still on his website called the NATO World Order. Two years later, Brzezinski, one of the architects of all of this and technocracy, wrote a document at the Council of Foreign Relations also about the NATO World Order.

And as you know, just a year later, against the will of Reagan and Gorbachev and the decision made at the end of the USSR, Bill Clinton started expanding NATO. It ceased to be a defensive force. But what we also have to know is that many top-level Hitler generals and stuff were also top-level people at NATO because Operation Paperclip and Dulles and McCloy bought a lot of the Nazis into West Germany and put them in the intelligent international intelligence loop. So a lot of what we've been told about that is false. NATO is not a defensive force. And frankly, George Soros says that he was in Ukraine before the fall of the USSR, setting up what he calls civil civil. society, which is really NGOs, to make sure that Ukraine would be the bull worth, whatever it's

called, of World War III. So it was set up in the 90s. And then when Trump got in there, Victoria Newland in 2015 gave a speech in front of Congress where she said that after we, Obama overthrew the duly elected president and regime change with USAID and CIA in Ukraine, that Victoria Newman said that the United States, States took over Ukraine's entire judicial system, their entire military, their entire civil service, their entire energy sector. So everything that we've been told was about that. But Russiagate was also about that. And trillions of dollars had already been invested. And don't forget, Sam Bankman freed somehow had ties to Ukraine. They have the full digital public

infrastructure in Ukraine. By the time Trump takes office. And then West Exec Advisors, where all of Obama's people went with Anthony Blinken continued Obama's and Brzezinski's foreign policy while Trump was in office under the guise of being consultants. But no, they were in bed with the military industrial complex, arming and training Ukraine for the inevitable push to take down Russia. Next time you come on this program, have a cup of coffee because I need a little more energy,

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In other words, where do you think we are right now? Do you think General Flynn will be called into the administration? Where do you think we are? Well, frankly, something is going on terribly wrong, in my opinion, highest level because the money isn't being stopped. And if the globalist money that is funding the controlled demolition of America is not stopped, I've identified many people. And, you know, I was on tour with cash and a lot of people, they know this, but they are having a tremendous pushback. I also think that when Holder came in, don't forget, he purged basically the entire DOJ civil rights division and National Security Division and replaced it with all NAACP, Southern Poverty Law Center. So the rod underneath the top level of what Trump's brought in is very deep, very compromised.

Frankly, it is my belief that the American people have to realize that not only have we even lied and looted and everything else for decades, but I believe that every single congressperson and senator from January 1st, 2020 to date should have a full doge audit because multiple things happened under the Autopenn President and either they were complicit, they were compromised or frankly, they don't know. But whatever the case may be, it has been a crime scene in Washington, D.C., well, we know for a very long time,

but certainly since January 1st of 2020. So to me, you have to go after the lawyers. Again, the Dulles Brothers were Wall Street lawyers. The lawyers right now are the problem. There are 300 globalist-funded, billionaire globalist-funded organizations that are funding Normizing and Mark Elias and everything.

They plan to file a lawsuit against every single thing Trump does. They've been planning it since April of 2024. Mary McCord, Andrew Weissman, all these people that we know, all of them are involved in all of this still. And they're under investigation while they're preparing impeachment for Trump in 2026. They believe that they will steal the election because Mark Elias and all of them are fighting to keep COVID measures in place for voting in 26. they won't turn over the voter rolls. So obviously that all means they're cheating. And then at the same time, apparently,

Elias has already lawsuits and everything ready to go and impeachment against Trump the minute that they take back the House and Senate. And of course, we're allowing the Democrat Socialist of America to run the Democratic Party. They're anti-America, anti-constitution bill of rights. They want one-party rule. And yet these weak Republicans who must be compromised, which is why I think everyone should be audited from January 1st, 2020, are not ending the filibuster.

When they know full well, the minute AOC and Jasmine Crockett take over, there's one party rule no matter what filibuster's gone. So again, we the people of the United States are the only answer. And everything I'm talking about is local. It is local. It is understanding where we are and realizing that the NGOs that are subverting the will of the people under the, the guise of being civil society, are there to make sure the people do not have a voice or a vote.

And that is where we are right now. And people that are still sitting on the sidelines and think, you know, somebody else is going to do it. Well, that's somebody else will be picked to destroy your community and to destroy this nation. We have 22 attorney generals that have coordinated with Norm Eisen and state democracy defenders to back every lawsuit that comes out of the woodwork. no matter how much it's going to help us. They're going after and not allowing tax on tips right now. I mean, they're going after not allowing the executive. So where is Trump on this?

I don't understand. It would seem to me that he would understand this, that he would be going after it. Or are there people preventing him from doing that? I mean, there's no other explanation than that because I know that they have the evidence. I know Cash Patel knows. I don't know how much cash can get done because I think the FBI is rotten to the core. I mean, you can't go from Mueller to Comey to Ray, who ends up being the worst in terms of violating our rights and the Constitution.

But how deep is that core? We're talking 20 years of subversion in both the CIA from the beginning. But the FBI has been subverted for decades. And a lot of these people have backgrounds in communism, if not their parents were Bolsheviks that fled here. So, I mean, where are we? Trump knows. I don't know why they're not going after the money. Bassett must know the easiest way to stop this in its tracks is to put sanctions and pause all of the external globalist money going into think tanks that we know are subversive like Brookings and stopping the money from Act Blue.

That's still not been stopped. Stop. This is so much easier. The whole Epstein case is not that way. In other words, it seems to me that you have to have the ear of some people in the administration. You know Cash Patel. How is it, I understand how this is possible. I don't either.

All I know is that there should be no court in D.C. They have already violated any idea that they are unbiased or on the side of the people or justice. The Congress could suspend that entire court, which would take out a lot of the worst judges, including Boseberg. That is their, the Congress can do that in D.C. But if you're going to try cases in Northern Virginia or in Washington, D.C. or Maryland, the surrounding, the surrounding counties, you're going to lose. Chuck Schumer put in 235 judges over the last four years to prepare for the inevitable of either the 2020 election being proved stolen or Trump coming back.

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on the 2020 election being stolen? I always say, like, I knew instantly that it was stolen and I was just enraged that people didn't seem to care or get it. They were just kind of like, well, just keep moving. I thought, do you understand?

Well, like, scandal is this a very nice word for it? I mean, it's absolutely staggering. It's the death of America. And people were like, well, we don't want to talk about it. Trump said we've got truckloads of information. What do you think is going to happen with that? What do you think is going to happen with the evidence on the stolen election and what happens when that evidence comes out? What do we do with that? Well, I think we have to, Eric, and this is the people like you and me that, you know, we're not doing this for any other

reason except for that we believe that God has driven us to protect this country and the people of this nation and the world from this totalitarian ugliness. And what I think we really need to pay attention to is that Trump can't do it. And his tweets and stuff, I know it's charming, I guess, but it's not helping because it's hurting and it's giving them more power. But frankly, we have to move some of these grand juries into different places. I know the grand jury for the grand conspiracy of Russiagate is happening, I believe, right now in Florida, which is great.

But every time that they file a lawsuit in D.C. or Northern Virginia, they're going to lose. and by design. And then you have to also identify the 235 judges that Schumer claimed they put in to stop Trump's agenda in 2025. So again, then you shouldn't be a judge. As for the theft of the 2020 election, not only is, do I believe that we're going to be proving that it was international and that that was a point venture

and that a lot of this goes back to Hugo Chavez and the CIA, helping Hugo Chavez do a lot of manipulation in his own country that was exported. We have a lot, I believe, a bunch of Smartmatic guys have been indicted. Most people know that Smartmatic was originally or formerly run by this guy, Lord Mollick Brown, who is George Soros as number two. And our election was stolen, but frankly, hundreds of elections around the world have been stolen by the same model, same mechanism, same people.

and I hope that Trump puts it out. But Trump putting it out is not going to indict these people. The DOJ has to indict them. And there is a problem in that inner circle that is surrounding the indictments because even Comer listed 10 names of people from the Autopenn presidency that should have been criminally indicted a month ago. We've seen no indictments. And I'll tell you what, Eric, I think the easiest indictment is the 51 intelligence agents

that committed, that defrauded the American people and committed a conspiracy to defraud the American people before a federal election when they all knew in emails that were recently released that that laptop was Hunter Biden since 2019. It was confirmed. And there was plenty of what would you do? Yeah. What would you do? I mean, if you could speak to President Trump and say, do this, this and this, fire Pam Bondi. What does he do? Well, I mean, I've never been a fan, but what I would like to see in there is a war-hardened, you know, battle acts, like high level, fought the Supreme Court in one attorneys being pulled out. We got people out there like Sydney Powell, like Victoria Tuncing and her husband.

We got people out there, good people that, and honestly, the lawyers they went after are the lawyers they fear. So like John Eastman, Clark, all these people are great lawyers. Look at who they what, the 65 Project went after to take their bar licenses. You know. Would you think the president could put in Sidney Powell? I would love if he put in Sydney Powell. Don't forget she's also a military lawyer.

And again, I don't know where the military lawyers are. They brought up 600 JAG lawyers, they said. Well, what are those JAG lawyers doing exactly? That's my hope because a lot of this is sedition and treason on the highest scale. And it was coordinated with foreign governments. So when you realize that Obama and his friends Brennan and them, coordinated with the UK and Gina Haspel and MI6 to take down Donald Trump, Well, hello, that is so much bigger than just a domestic issue.

That is a global crime. Oh, no, definitely. Military, in my estimation. I think, unfortunately, we're at a time. But the good news is if neither of us is killed, we can do this again. Yeah. And I just want to continue the conversation with you because it's so, there's nothing more important. Let's be honest.

So, Mel, God bless you. Thanks for coming on here. And people can find you where? I am at the Mel Kay Show. I have a morning show every single day live, 12 to 130 on Rumble and X. And my main hubs rumble, but I'm a lot of places. And I also want people to know that they have so much more power than they think they do. And their power is local.

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