The Eric Metaxas Show - #29 - Sidney Powell

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

This week Sidney Powell joined me for a sobering conversation on faith, courage, and the unfinished story of 2020.What happens if corruption is never confronted?What happens if it is?⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Why Sidney Powell is a hero & what she endured03:30 – Faith, family, and how courage is formed10:33 – Where we are now on the 2020 election16:27 – Will DOJ & FBI corruption be held accountable?25:53 – America’s third existential crisis29:39 – Revival, hope, and what must happen nextSponsors: Christian Solidarity International: http://csi-usa.org/metaxas/ Help Save Lives in Israel Today:http://savinglifeisrael.orgMyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: http://mypillow.com Trusted Partners: ten Boom Coffee— Save 10% with code ERIC: http://tenboom.coffeeLegal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: http://legalhelpcenter.com- - -⭐️ SECURE YOUR FUTURE WITH A GOLD IRA: https://www.metaxasgoldira.com/✡️ Help Save Lives in Israel TODAY: https://www.savinglifeisrael.org/Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: https://www.legalhelpcenter.com/MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://www.mypillow.com/Christian Solidarity International: https://csi-usa.org/metaxas/ten Boom Coffee— Save 10% with code ERIC: https://tenboom.coffee/- - -

Merry Christmas, kids. Yes, yes. I think yesterday was Christmas. So we're going to say Merry Christmas for the next 12 days or 11 days starting yesterday. The 12 days of Christmas, we're not going to get into that. I believe Bill Federer has already explained that on a previous program. By the way, if you want to watch our programs, go to the YouTube channel. Go to my YouTube channel. Please, because we've got, there's so many great folks that I have interviewed. And I know I'm not able to. You know, I can't get it all in in one show. So if you're missing stuff, sign up for the for the YouTube channel, Eric McTaxus YouTube channel. Before we go to Sydney Powell, my guest today, Sydney Powell, Sydney Powell is a true American hero. She has really gone through hell. She's a deeply good woman, a woman of great Christian faith. She's a hero. She's brave and she's been put through it.

As many of you know, she was. was clear that the election was stolen when it was stolen. She tried to speak out about it. They put her through hell. Many of us knew the election was stolen when it was stolen. And we were told, oh, shut up, you can't talk about that, which is the biggest clue like, oh, maybe I should talk about it. Nobody's going to tell me to shut up. This is a free country. People have died. Patriots have died so that we can speak truth in America. And we will not be censored by people who tell us we have no right to speak. We're Americans. We have rights, inalienable rights given to us by the one who created us. And so many of us spoke about the stolen election when it

happened and we thought, surely this has to get out. And we went through hell, four plus years of hell. But it's now getting out. Thank God. It has to get out. Most Americans simply need to know the truth. Not everybody's going to be exercised toward doing anything about it. A lot of people are lazy or indifferent or selfish. They don't care. But a lot of people are wise enough to care and to understand this affects you and your children. And so a lot of the stuff is coming out. The last time I had Sidney Powell on this program, she really couldn't talk about some of the stuff because it was ongoing, as they say. And so now today we're going to talk to her about it. So by the way, if you still are looking for Christmas gifts, even though Christmas sort of has passed,

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I get cheered up, just looking at you here, you've been such a hero. I don't even know where to start. How about Merry Christmas? Merry Christmas to you, Eric, and I hope everyone that watches and listens has had a wonderful Christmas also. I just going to say

and Christmas doesn't stop. They're 12 days of Christmas, folks. And I guess well, you're wearing like a Christmas outfit. I guess I sort of am, not quite, but you look, you look really festive. Thank you for for dressing the place up. I'm encouraged just by that, just by that. I have a collection of Christmas sweaters, Christmas purses, pretty much Christmas everything. Really? Yes. Are you sure you

want to share that publicly? And I think that's, that's just, that's between you and your God. People don't need to know it. No, you really do. You're not making this up. You really do. No, I'm not making this up. Okay. So here is. You just showed me something. I showed, Go the audio. Yeah, there we go. There we go. Here is one of four wooden, unique Santa Claus purses that I have found different places. Card by Santa Claus himself, folks. Yes. Yeah, that's amazing because usually the elves do a lot of the carving, but in this case, Santa himself carved that person.

Where in the world, and I have to ask you, where in the world did you find a carved Santa Claus purse? Well, my mother gave me one of them like 30 years ago. my husband gave me two of them and I found one, the largest one that I probably should have brought today because he has the fur and everything on the wooden purse and jewels along the edge of his hat. I found him at a heritage auction about 10 Christmases ago. 10 Christmases ago, that sounds like a Christmas Carol.

Seven Christmases ago this very night. So, Sydney, oftentimes I forget to, for me, it's more fun than talking about current events to ask people about themselves. Where did you grow up? Where did you celebrate your first Christmases as a kid? I grew up in Raleigh, North Carolina in a pretty much old-fashioned 50s, I would say, home where my mother stayed home and took care of me and my little brother. and my dad went to work. For a long time, we only had one car. She would drive him to work and bring the car back on days she needed to run errands

or go to the grocery store or whatever. And he was a World War II veteran who had so much integrity. I mean, he just had the greatest sense of integrity of any person I've ever known. He literally would not take a personal phone call at his work because his time belonged to his boss. and he would not bring a pencil home from work because it wasn't his. He had, he wanted to distinguish flying cross during World War II. He was among the only 10% of the Eighth Army Air Corps that survived all the flights they took over Germany. I think he did 26 bombing missions over Germany.

And the last one, the plane was so shot up. He literally had to hold the fuel line together with his bare hands to get the crew back across the the English channel. Holy guacamole. Oh my God. I didn't expect to hear something like that. That is, you see, now, this is interesting. Part of the reason I asked these questions about, you know, you and your background is, because it gives us an insight into how do you get to be Sidney Powell? How do you get to be the woman that you are who has stood so bravely and heroically? And part of the answer, folks, is you get to have a dad like the one that you just described. And I know I've said this many times myself that who I am, largely I owe to my father, Nick Metaxus, who went to be with Jesus a year and a half ago.

But I mean, the more time passes, the more I realize his sacrifice, his integrity made me who I am. And so each of us has a job because how you behave affects those around you. What a privilege each of us has. but it's just so good to know a little bit about you, Sydney, because you and I were always talking about the current events and what's going on, which I want to do now, but I'm happy to hear about that because I think sometimes people do want to know.

How did you get to be that person who stands up when everybody else is like, you know, running, you know, for cover? And so you have really been through it. Where, I mean, where? Faith played. a very important role too in our household. Both my parents were active in the Presbyterian Church, and my mother was a very strong woman of great faith, as were my grandmothers and my grandfathers as well.

In fact, one grandfather started a Presbyterian church in Durham, North Carolina. And mom and dad were both very active in our church in Raleigh. Dad was an elder, and mom was a church secretary. He's a volunteer for a while. And, you know, God was just part of my life. from the second, actually before I was born, I'm sure. Well, that's another part of the story. I mean, my dad dragged us to church every Sunday. You know, I usually didn't want to go. But there's something that happens, folks.

There's something that happens. And that's the backbone of this country. If you want to know how America came into being, I'm writing a book now on the American Revolution called Revolution. And this story, it's a story of faith. It's utterly inescapable. You can never get the United States of America without profound Christians living out their Christian faith.

John Adams, Samuel Adams, at the top of the list. It's just, it's amazing. Patrick Henry and on and on and on. It's beautiful. We get to be a part of this great country, but Christian faith is at the heart of it. And so I'm glad, Sidney, to know that about you as well. I would have guessed it, I think, just from knowing you a little

bit. But I could not have withstood everything I have withstood in the last five years in particular had I not known Emmanuel. I mean, God is with us. And all you have to do is pay attention to it and accept it. And God will walk with you through anything you have to go through and give you the strength to do it. I can relate to that, not nearly on the level that you've been through. But there's no doubt about it, that when you walk through it with with with with the Lord, it's different. You can walk you, you can walk through it when you, when you walk with him and he walks with you. And I'm glad you shared that as well. Where, where are we now with regard to the 2020 election? Recently, President Trump said we've got truckloads of information. He seems

clearly to know that the 2020 election was stolen. I mean, it, you know, because there, because in the last four, five years, we've watched as some people completely denied it. And if you said it, oh, you're a lunatic. And, and that has shifted and shifted and shifted where I think, um, we're beginning to get more and more and more clarity and proof where, where do you think we are right now with it. I think they have all the evidence they need to, prosecute criminally for many offenses if they have the courage and whatever fortitude it takes to do that. As I understand it, there are witnesses in the country who were part of it who are ready to testify. And I don't know if anybody has secured their testimony in front of a grand jury or not.

Grand jury proceedings are secret and can be kept that way for a long time. but if they haven't been, they need to be. And I hope our Department of Justice will get after that because the American people are entitled to know that we really probably have not had a completely honest election in 24 years. Well, what always bothers me is when people are not scandalized. I mean, when I remember in, you know, the day after the election in 2020,

thinking, wait a minute. wait a minute something's wrong and being shocked at how few people cared how few people were willing to ask questions I thought

you don't deserve to live in the United States of America if you don't care about this you don't deserve to live here Patriots have died bled and died you just mentioned your father going through hell

for his country so many people have suffered and so many people have died for this country that we could be free And to just think, oh, I just got a free ride and I get to live here and I don't really care and I don't feel like I have to do anything about it. Shame on you if you have that attitude. We've all got to put our shoulders to the wheel in this. And you, Sidney, I mean, you have really been through it.

There are so many pieces to this, too. I mean, the level of corruption to live in a culture where there is that much corruption, where there's corruption in the media that they're not willing to talk about this kind of stuff or they just thought. well, I know which side, you know, my bread is buttered on and I'm not going to, I don't want to tell that story. And I thought, wow, that is the beginning of the end. You can't have a country if you don't have enough people that care about this stuff. Our mainstream media seems to have completely sold out and it did it a long time ago, at least 10 years, if not 20 years ago. I think the big change happened in 2000. And then with the passage of the Patriot Act after that, and then Obama took that surveillance state that was created to protect us from foreign enemies and turned it against what he perceived to be domestic enemies, which is anyone who believes the United States should protect itself and put America first and not hemorrhage for every other country in the world while we just dwindle.

Well, do you think, I mean, I guess to me, there are signs of great hope. I mean, CBS putting Barry Weiss at the head of its news division, I thought, that's amazing. In other words, there are enough folks out there, not many, but a few who seem to care about what we would call reality and truth. And if you care about that, I mean, for CBS to have the wisdom to say, maybe we need to attack. toward the center and to actually do that, not to double down on the woke lunacy, but to say that maybe we need to take a different path. I mean, that gives me hope. I mean, they're not going to be newsmax tomorrow, but the point is that we need a lot more of this, but that alone, there seem to be signs of hope. Hey there, folks, quick word from today's sponsor. When you hear about rockets, drones,

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if they're not, you really can't have a country if people are allowed to get away with what they've done. I mean, they've done unbelievably wicked things. I agree. There must be accountability for that and not simply by telling us what they did. Those people have committed. serious crimes by all the evidence any of us have seen. And I can't believe there isn't a lot more. And that needs to be handled appropriately in the Department of Justice with likely prosecutions. Do you have any sense of the culture of the DOJ, of the culture of the FBI? In other words, I know that you can't change it overnight.

I just don't know. I don't have any sense of how these bureaucracies work or, or, or what's going on. Do you have a sense that it's being dealt with? I mean, I get the impression the president understands that this needs to be dealt with. So I can't, it would be very hard for me to think that he's going to let this stuff slide. I'm concerned about people that he has put in certain positions. I was appalled at the Vanity Fair articles that Susie Wiles did.

Absolutely appalled. And I think she probably had a significant role in choosing Pam Bondi. to lead the Department of Justice. I am not looking for that job, by the way. I have a job and am not seeking to be the Attorney General, but someone needs to be the Attorney General who knows how to prosecute federal cases. And I don't think Pam ever did that.

And the Department of Justice needs a massive culture change, as does the FBI. They've been allowed to deteriorate for so long. It's going to take, I mean, it's like Hercules, cleaning out the Argyan stables to fix both places. And by the way, folks, if you don't get that reference, you need to look that up. It's, we know we're in a fallen world, and we know that great people are not perfect. And I think a lot of people wonder what's going on with Pam Bondi.

I have over and over again on X or whatever said that I wish they would, forced you to take that job, hire General Flynn. You know, there are people that are not part of the administration that I wish were part of the administration. I do trust the president, but I sometimes wonder, I think most Americans wonder what's going on. The time is short. We don't have a lot of time.

We've got to get serious. And I think that if a tenth of what these folks have done is brought to and prosecuted, it's going to be monumental. I mean, we're talking about scandals that are unlike anything in the history of the nation. There's nothing to compare. Watergate is not 10% of what we're talking about. Watergate was a setup. Watergate was a setup to take down Nixon. I was going to say Watergate, but I'm saying even if it weren't a setup, when you talk

about what happened and it was a setup, but I'm saying that when people say, Watergate, Watergate is nothing, ladies and gentlemen, if you have any sense of his, You understand that what we're talking about now is just there is absolutely nothing to compare with it. Nothing. There's nothing to compare with it. This was a coup of the United States of America and the trillions of dollars of wealth and business transactions and all kinds of things that go with that. And I think I said that back on November 19 of 2020. Well, where, I mean, what can you do about it, I guess?

So let me put it on you, Sidney Powell. You're an amazing woman. What can you do about this? What are you doing about this? Well, other than raising my voice at every opportunity, I don't know of a lot I can do about it. I mean, I certainly write about it. We put out a lot of information at defending therepublic.org,

and everyone can sign up for our newsletters. Say it again? Defending the republic.org. And we write about these topics and keep people advised of what's going on in the real media, not the fake media. And we're just fighting every way we can to show the corruption and encourage people that do have the power to prosecute it, to do something about it. What is your sense of this, you know, the conspiracy thing, that the statute of limitations,

if the conspiracy goes up into the present or whatever, isn't there something happening in the, is it the Southern District of Florida right now? I'm not clear on the details. But isn't there something along these lines that I've heard about that is happening? I believe there is. I've heard Mike Davis from the Article III project speak about it. And he's probably the most informed on it. It's, and yes, there has been a continuing conspiracy that would,

if indicted properly, certainly takes it outside any statute of limitations issue that might have been alleged. I guess when I think of folks like you and General Flynn, I think I just I wonder if there is a fear that some people have that it would be too traumatic for the country to have Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama hailed in front of Congress to answer for what they've done. because if they have done anything close to what we think they've done, what happens? I mean, how do you deal with something of that level? We've never seen anything like that in America. They should be treated just like any other person. That's what the rule of law is all about. I mean, our country is founded on the rule of law.

That's one of the things that most importantly distinguishes us from other countries. And that means everyone is equal in the eyes of the law without regard to their political station or anything else. We cannot let people who have committed gross crimes be absolved of them simply because they were presidents or secretaries of state or anything like that. And lots of people in government try to protect the institutions of government when the institutions of government are supposed to protect the people of the United States. And the Constitution itself was written to protect the people of the United States

from the government. So our problem has always been the government. It has far too much power, and people in the government are not held to account like they should be. So if anybody wants to fix it, they're going to have to prosecute some of the people that have been in government.

The real criminals that have been in government, not making up anything against them at all, not making up any facts, not making up any legal charges like they did against President Trump and frankly me at every turn. that's not appropriate. But if the facts indicate real crimes, regardless of who that person is, Brennan, Clapper,

or any of them, they should be prosecuted. Well, I completely agree. But the reason I ask the question is because I wonder if there are people who shrink from that. There are people say, well, definitely. Definitely. There are gutless wonders everywhere out there. I mean, there are U.S. attorneys now that should be prosecuting some of these things. If I remember correctly, Pam Bondi sort of weakened the public integrity section in D.C., which I think was a mistake, but did give U.S. attorneys the authority to prosecute those.

So it doesn't have to be out of Washington. The U.S. attorneys need to get active in their own districts. There certainly needs to be a criminal investigation of the fraud that all the Somalians have committed. I think the president put Scott Besant or Bessent on that. that? Good. Well, there are multiple U.S. attorneys that probably should have cases going on that now, because I believe it happened in multiple states. And then there are the probable offenses of Governor Tim Waltz that the U.S. attorney in Minnesota could be looking into and should be looking into. It's everywhere, everywhere. All of it needs to be investigated thoroughly, and then the chart is broad if appropriate. Well, this is some of the most wicked stuff, folks. Again, I think that almost

we don't have anything to compare it to. I mean, this is, I say over and over, it's the third existential crisis of our history as a nation, that we had the revolution, we had a civil war. This is the third existential crisis. You lose the nation or you save the nation, but this is not just some small crisis or something we're working out. We've come to a, a, a point. We've come to a point where either we deal with this evil, the subversion of the will of we the people, that's as wicked as it gets. That's putting a bullet in the head of Lady Liberty and Uncle Sam. And if you don't care about it, folks, you don't deserve to live in this country. But we'll say it again. Patriots have died, have suffered so that we could have these freedoms

so we could have the rule of law. And so I think my guess, Sidney, is that this stuff is being dealt with. It is frustrating. The pace and I don't know whether. I thought President Trump put out a post on Truth Social maybe three weeks ago pushing Pam Bondi to get serious. I was kind of shocked by that.

That's how you communicate with your attorney general to go to her to action. as though you need to do that. I mean, when you get to that point, I think it's the only thing to do is say, next, thank you for your service. I don't know, I really don't know what to say. And then he walked it back in another post the next day

talking about how great she was. I don't, I really don't get it. I really, really don't get it. I, uh, look, I don't, I don't know enough. I'm happy to be ignorant of, you know, the details of, of Susie Wiles and on and on. I mean, look, I think that there are a lot of people that, you know, maybe they're not where we are, but whether they're more forced for good,

I don't know. I do trust the president. But I think he has a sense that he can be, he can go down in history as practically our greatest president ever if he deals with this now. And if he doesn't deal with this now, it will be the greatest missed opportunity in the history of the nation. That may cause the failure of the republic. Nothing less, nothing less than that. And so I hope he's aware of it. I know that there are, you know, scores of thousands of people praying for this president every day. And that he's being led by God as a result of that.

And I just hope that God steers him. And folks, pray for this country and this president. Pray. God hears your prayers. We're at that moment. I mean, next year is the 250th anniversary of the birth of this nation. I don't know if you got the memo, Sidney Powell, but it's called the supercentennial. Have you heard that? No, I hadn't heard that.

Of course not. Of course not. It's the super centennial. I shared that with the president. He loved the idea. He announced it. They haven't done anything official about it yet. But it's going to be called the super centennial because the official term is the semi-quincentennial,

which nobody's going to remember. Nobody knows it. But we need to have a big. So the arch needs to be called the supercentennial arch, you know, this gigantic arch that we're putting up. It's just a celebratory term. And I think by Fiat, just as, you know, president said, this is now going to be called the Gulf of America. I think by Fiat, you say, this is our supercentennial. It's a magnificent, magical moment in our history. And I really think next year is going to be a genuinely great year, a year of revolution. if I may say that

and that something is happening that is far beyond us that is God's hand in history but I am sanguine about where we are and what lies ahead. I know that it's a battle, it is a war,

but I really believe God has called us to the war. I do too. And now? It's, we're pretty much out of time. Anything before we go, anything in the news,

news that you want to comment on? Any thoughts on recent developments? I want people to take this time over Christmas and New Year's to reflect on the things that are most important to them, their faith, their family, and their friends, and think about ways they can carry the gift of the newborn Christ into the new year and practice it and let the light shine every. day through the new year, not just Christmas Day, not just Christmas Eve, not just New Year's or New Year's Eve, but carry that spirit with us through the New Year and let it increase our generosity and kindness to others. And I want to reiterate, I mean, I want to agree with that and say, there is no doubt that the only way forward is revival. Revival in faith of the God of the Bible. It's how we started as an age.

It is the only way we can go forward. It's the only way we can undo the evil that has been done, that we can redeem the evil is by turning our hearts and souls and everything we have to Jesus, folks, in case you want to know what I think. That is the only way forward. I believe that is God's will. I believe that will happen. Well, Sidney Powell, just wonderful to have you.

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