The Eric Metaxas Show - #32 - Sam and Kevin Sorbo

Episode Date: January 3, 2026

In this episode, I talk with @ksorbs and @thesamsorbo about the Sorbo Cruise, Greece, Kevin’s upcoming projects, and why parents are pushing back in schools.TODAY'S SPONSORS: Christian Solidarity International: https://csi-usa.org/metaxas/ Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: https://legalhelpcenter.com MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://mypillow.comten Boom Coffee— Save 10% with code ERIC: https://tenboom.coffeeHelp Save Lives in Israel TODAY: https://savinglifeisrael.org

Folks, today, I have a husband and wife team coming on the program. Perhaps you're aware of their work. I'm talking about Steve and Edie Gourmet are going to be my guests on this program. And you're going to love the... I'm sorry. We couldn't get Steve and Edie. So we're going to... All right, we're going to have to go with my friends, Kevin and Sam Sorbo.

They are going to be on the program. Kevin and Sam Sorbo, they're not singers, but they're actually. and they're involved in so much stuff. I won't even try because we're going to talk about five different things. Some of this is almost unbelievable. Be prepared to laugh. I challenge you not to laugh because I'm going to talk to them about some crazies. You're just, you're not going to believe it.

So the Sorbos are coming up. As you know, they're dear friends of mine. I'm sorry I couldn't get Stephen Eady, but we're working on it. But I also want to remind you before we get to the Sorboes, before we have all the fun with Kevin and Sam Sorbo, I want to remind you, we have a new sponsor on the podcast. program, Genesis Gold, to find out how to get your hands on real gold, we want you to go to Metaxusgold IRA.com. Do me the favor, support this new sponsor on the program.

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888-253-35-22. 8-88-253-35-22. That's a beautiful, beautiful way to celebrate Christmas. God bless you. Hey, there, folks. I warned you. I tried. I tried to warn you that we'd have some special guests on.

And if you didn't want that, you've been warned. But my guests are Kevin Sorbo and his current wife. What's her name, Kevin? Uh, Sandra. No, I mean, Sam. This is like, you're one of these Hollywood types. This is like wife number six, seven, whatever. I know this one is going to last.

I just have a sense. She's a solid woman. She's not the gold digger like your previous five wives. But you and Mickey Rooney, man, you've been through it. But Kevin, how are you? I'm pretty good. How are you doing? I'm obviously hopped up on something.

I don't know what drug, what drug they have me on. But this is not normal, you know. normally I'm very sober in the way I conduct my interviews. I want to talk to you guys about everything, but first, I want to talk to you about Greece. Yeah, so we led a tour in Greece this past year, and we had so much fun. We're doing it again. And so it'll be in September, October of next year, 2026, and it'll be a bit of a larger group. It's going to focus more on the cruise aspect of it.

but I know that you've led tours in Greece. I got to tell you, Eric, we had never really been to Greece. I mean, Kevin had visited me Kenos to shoot a movie and little side trips. It's not that's special, right? It's no big deal. The problem with me, you know, as a Greek American, is that people think my, you know, raving about Greece is just because, well, you know, I'm Greek. I have to say, I try to be objective.

And I love that country and I love those people. And when I go there, I feel, I don't know, I mean, because I've been all over Europe and I cannot, I'm not kidding. Like there is something really special about it. Whatever that is, I don't know what that is. The fact that that culture is so grounded, so rooted in its history and the history of the church there, the history of Paul, we walked in the footsteps of Paul. And we'll be doing that again. And it just was very exciting. And it's a very sad story, but Paul was not Greek.

It's kind of sad. But he had a good message, though. But he wrote everything in Greek, which is to start, folks. You start with the writing, some Greek recipes. You'll get there. You'll get there. No, seriously, though, the footsteps of Paul. I was, I did a Greek cruise, as you know, last, when was it, last June.

And, you know, we went to Ephesus. And you think, wow, like, this is where it all happened. When we did our tour, I read the entire book of Ephesus, sorry, the book of Ephesians out loud, all six chapters to the tour group. And I thought, what a cool thing that we could be in the very place where he wrote this. But I didn't know that you guys were now doing Greek tours. I didn't know about that. Well, we've done to Israel a few times. And we decided we want to do this.

A pastor friend of mine out of Tennessee had done it. He sent me information. I thought, this looks pretty cool. So I believe it starts September 23rd, Sam. I think we sent you the information. We are definitely going to start on land in Athens and see some obviously amazing things right around there. But we're also going to jump on a boat for about seven or eight days as well. We're doing Ephesus.

We're doing Mekinoos, Crete. We're going to be hitting it all. So people can go to sorbochruise.com. Sorbochruise.com. The great thing about Greece is there's just so much. So it's not just about the Bible, which it is. but it's also about the food and the scenery. And, I mean, we visited a winery on this past trip that was amazing.

The culture over there is just amazing. We just absolutely loved Greece. And our thought as we left Greece was when can we come back? Yeah. Yeah. That's the problem. Yeah. I'd like to spend about four months a year there if I could.

I can't. but maybe in the future, I would just, I just love it there. I just absolutely love it there. Well, we drove such a big part of the country, and I'll tell you, it was just beautiful. And we went to this area where there's monks and nuns, and they built these things on top. I don't know how they even built them because they're these monasteries. These monasteries, these skinny little mountains. And you go, they had to pull everything up.

They had to climb this mountain and one piece at a time and just built it. We visited there as well. And of course, the name is now slipping my mind, how pathetic. But anyway, if you look it up, folks, it's famous. And there are innumerable monasteries built way, way up on these cliffs. It's crazy. And we visited several of them. And one of them, well, actually, you know what's interesting, guys, if you think about it,

is that we have a very American evangelical view. of Christian faith. And it's interesting for us to broaden our view of the historical Christian faith and understand that even though I might have some criticisms, or I might say, well, they could have changed this or do that, but just to see that history, how people gave their lives over to serving Jesus in these monasteries, it's pretty amazing, actually. It's very moving. And it's a broadening experience.

It helps you have a different appreciation of the Christian faith. At least that's what it did for me. Sure. Yeah. It was incredible. As Sam said, we're excited to go back and do it again. And I hope people join us. By land and sea, that's what we're doing this time.

So if people want to hang out with you guys in Greece, they can go to sorbochruise.com. Yes. The only thing I could possibly think of that would be better than hanging out with you guys in Greece, Greece would be hanging out with me in Greece, but I'm not doing a Greek trip next year. So, folks, you got to go, look, they're non-Greek. I know, I know. They're not me, but can you imagine how much, honestly, to me, the best part is the fellowship. I'm so sorry to point out that my husband is Hercules.

Well, yes. Sorbo the Greek. Come on. I forgot about that one. I forgot about it. You know, if you play a Greek on TV, like a famous Greek demigod, that's close enough. That's close enough. That's close enough.

That's close enough. Well, that is so exciting. People can go to sorbochruise.com. Sorbochruise.com. If you want to find out about your own cruise, go to Sorbo cruise. I know all about it already, and I am so excited. The thing that I find so fun, and I'm sure you have this on your trips also, Eric, is we coalesce almost like a family. We get to know each other. We form lifelong friendships. I'm still in group chats with the people that I've taken to Israel and to Greece this last trip. I mean, it's just an amazing, amazing way to spend your vacation among believers and family. So I really encourage people, sorboe cruz.com. Sam Sorbo, we love you.

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It's fantastic. I spent three weeks in Oxford, England, with John Lennox, the world's famous apologist, retired math, professor from Oxford University in two weeks in Israel. with him. It's called Against the World Proving God in a World of Science. And I know you know who John Lennox is, but for those who don't, he's debated all the great atheists

the world like Singer and Dawkins and Hitchens. And he just destroys them with love and humor and kindness. And he sounds like Winnie the Pooh when he talks. He's just an amazing guy against the world. Check it out right now. Now against the world, you know, you should reference where we get that

term from. Athanasius contramundum Contra against Mundum, Mundo, World, mundane of the world. Athanasius Contra Mundum, that's where you guys came up with the title against the world. And John Lennox, actually in July, I am doing a Socrates and the city retreat, like a four-day thing in Oxford, England, with John Lennox, folks. So if you're bored, you got nothing to do at the end of July. You can come to Oxford. Go to Socrates and the city.com.

But John Lennox, there is nobody like him. He's absolutely amazing. And I knew that you had done that with him. And I saw parts of it. But what led to that, Kevin? Because he really is, I mean, there is nobody like John Lennox. He is a gift to the world. He's just a gift.

Well, it was financed by Stephen Hoff, self-made billionaire guy out of brands of Missouri area. And they called John and they wanted to do this. And he mentioned my name. because he saw my movie, What If? And what if is the same writers that did the movie, God's Not Dead? In my book, What If is Better? But in God's Not Dead, I'm sorry, he mentioned God's Not Dead.

God's Not Dead. I play an atheist college professor who torments one of my college students in my philosophy class. And we have a debate over proving the God does exist. And I mentioned John Lennox a number of times in the movie. And that's what actually brought me in to be the guy that was going to be on the documentary with him. So I was lucky and blessed to be at the right time, in a right place, the right time. And John and I've been friends ever since. And his health isn't so good right now.

So, you know, let's all pray for John. He's an amazing man. But you get to see him again. So I say hello when you see him for me. Well, I was thrilled that he agreed to do this with us in Oxford. As I said, it's next July will be there because, of course, he is in Oxford. But there is nobody like him. I've interviewed him, I think, for Socrates in the city about four.

time. So if people want to see my interviews with him, they can go to Socrates in the city.com. But if you know anybody that is asking the big questions, they're saying, well, I don't know, I'm interested in Christianity, but I've got all these questions. It doesn't get better than John Lennox. I mean, the man is super genius. And he answers the questions with this kind of Irish wit. You know, it's not, it's not dry. But he is just so brilliant. And we have some of our, One of the things that we did with him in Socrates and City, it has so many views. I can't even, I don't even remember now what the number was, but there's something about him. He's so just tremendously compelling.

So the documentary you did with him, it's called Against the World. And where can people most easily find against the world with you? Amazon right now, streaming on Amazon. So I hope people will take the time to check it up. I call it apologetics for dummies like me. It's a great way to learn how to offend your faith. And he's just a class act. and I hope people check it out.

I did send Chris, though, a couple of things. I don't know if you got to be able to cue my overall, but Sam and I are going to start in a movie in January, and it's called The Flood. And I'm playing Noah, and she's playing my wife, Merriam, and we already have an action video that's out there right now. So, Sam, you have to be like 640 years old. How old are you in the film?

Yeah, I'm just a little bit older than that, so they're going to age me down to look a little bit younger. I was going to say, you know, I'll be, I'll be what, and you can pass for 600 any day. any day, no problem. That is so funny. So wait, you're going to start filming in January? Our parts start in January.

They're already filming right now, but we go on in January 6th. They got a lot of action scenes, a lot of stuff they're doing right now. But that movie will come out November of 2026 is what they're shooting for right now. You know I read for the roll of ham and they turned me down.

Really? Yeah, and I killed it in that, you know, reading. Like I knew I nailed ham like, he's never been nailed. Well, you would have had scenes with me. I would have brought you in, but I had nothing to do with the casting. I apologize. Yeah.

I've always wanted to be him. Well, you are a ham. I am a ham. I am a ham. No, okay. Kevin, you got to talk about liberal tears before you go. Oh, I got a bourbon that's coming out. Rob Schneider and I.

But wait a minute. So you are producing bourbon? You got like a still? What is going on? Is this legal? No, it's a company that hired us. And it's called Tears of the Left. And Tears for the Left, I mean, it's a bourbon.

And we got, Rob Schneider and myself, and they're going to introduce a couple of other people down the road. I think one is going to be Dean Kane. But I've already shot my five or six commercials for them, and they're airing right now. So we've gotten to a point we've got Hercules doing a booze commercial on the Eric McAxis podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, this is just my life. This is my life.

Hey, we had ale. Hercules had ale back in the day. I don't have a problem with people drinking bourbon. I'm just teasing you. And there are people in my audience. They will have a problem with this. They have a big problem with this. I'm so high right now.

I was doing lines before. You know what I mean? I have no problem with the drugs and stuff. You guys, it's show business. No, seriously, what's the name of the bourbon? Just to get serious, what's the name of the bourbon? Say it again? Tears for the left.

Tears of the left. Tobel, tears of the left, yes. That's a brilliant marketing campaign. I like that. And it comes with an amazing cookbook. Can I hold on. Stay there. With a cookbook.

So, so folks, it's not all about books. We're using it for recipes. Don't get excited. That's right. We're using it for recipes. This is not about getting blasted. You know, for being the tears of the left, it's amazingly smooth. Tears of the left.

It looks like a mouthwash, but I know it's much higher quality. And it comes with this amazing, amazing recipe book. You can get all kinds of great, wonderful recipes in here. Oh, it's all about the recipes, folks. Read the names. A new scum fashioned. It goes after. all the wonderful hardcore lefties out there that just want to be upset about something every day.

You know that. I love it. The world is changing. It's becoming more vulgar and booze oriented. No, seriously, this is funny. This is too funny. I'm just so glad that, that, that, patriarchy punch. Patriarchy punch.

I love, actually, yeah, I was just going to say that the cookbook, like just that, I'm sure it's loaded with, with hilarious stuff. So where can people find whatever booze you're pitching? What is it? Where can they find it? Just go to the, just go to the. Tears of the left.com. Ladies and gentlemen, tiersof the left.com.

If you're going to get hammered, choose Tears of the Left. I'm not a bourbon guy. I'm more of a vodka guy. But, okay, so you guys are just like, you're pitching all kinds of stuff. You must be rolling in it. Congratulations. You know, I want my team to be.

to be succeeding. It is so funny to me. Tears of the Left, this is too great. And Eric, I know I've got to come back in next year, but I've got four of the movies in the can, and I've got two of the documentaries. One, I'm very excited about. Deals with the Last Supper,

and it's called Eating with the Enemy, and that'll be out next year. Eating with the Enemy, and I know there's probably already a sequel called Boozing with the Enemy, featuring sponsored by Tearsof the Left.com. Incredible. Incredible.

Oh my gosh. Well, we were going to talk about so many different things. I don't know. What should we switch to next? Should we talk about homeschooling? Should we talk about? Well, you know what? You have to because she's got to take over. I've got to leave. I've got 1140 appointment and I have to leave drive to it right now. So you gave me all the time. I needed. It's a commercial for Tears of the Left.com. Hey there, folks. Quick word from today's sponsor. When you hear about rockets, drones, missiles, or a terror attack in Israel, Somebody has to rush in after the sirens. That is Magan David Adom, Israel's National Emergency Medical Service, basically Israel's 911. They dispatch every ambulance in the country, take thousands of emergency calls every day,

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Home schooling, it's kind of funny because the mainstream media is unaware of the homeschooling boom. I mean, the whole country knows about homeschooling, but there's still people either on the left or in the middle that they're just, they're not aware of what a phenomenon it is and how many people have woken up

to the idea that homeschooling is the way to go or in most cases, It's the way to go. So what can we talk about there? Well, of course, I have my book, Parents Guide to Homestchool, which walks you through why you should homeschool, how easy it is, and the great outcome that you can expect when you homeschool that we've really lost sight of in our culture today.

We really trust our schools. We trust that they know what they're doing, even though all evidence to the contrary, right? But you're being polite. It's not that they don't know what they're doing. what they're doing is indoctrinating our children, and it is not wrong to use the word evil. They are not teaching the basics. What they're doing is they're propagandizing our kids against us,

against American values, against Christian biblical values. That's a fact. Against truth. To put it really succinctly, it is against the truth. Actually, that's much more a much better way to put it. Right. And when you lie to a child, they know that they're being. lied to and they get frustrated and that's why we have such an anger, depression, suicidality problem

in our youth today. But I want to pivot to something that's very serious. It's very, very close to my heart right now. It's an organization that I helped found called Parents Demanding Justice Alliance and we are working on behalf of parents who were then targeted by their school boards after they spoke just open their mouths at school board meetings saying that the policies regarding the the masks were unfair and unkind, or saying that the books that show pornography to little children really should be removed from the schools, that they don't want their children to have to undergo sex surveys in the classroom that are administered by third parties that aren't even part of the school system. And these people who spoke at school board meetings were then targeted by their

local school boards and by the local law enforcement based on a memo from Merrick Garland if you recall, about four years ago last October, he issued a memo that called these parents domestic terrorists and enlisted the FBI in putting them on a list to be watched. And when you're categorizing American families in that way, now, Merrick Garland tried to hide behind the fact, or tried to hide behind the idea that these parents were violent, but there was absolutely no incidents of violence.

None. Sam, listen, this is so despicable, folks. You just can't understand there's a time to be outraged. This is so outrageous that it's almost impossible to believe that we live in a country where the secular left elites want to crush dissent. They have removed the basics, the basic idea that a parent has every right to demand that their child be educated as they choose. not as the elites who say we know better about this than you did it's like no no no no no we we have the right

parents have that right and so what you're saying sam i know there are a lot of people maybe not a lot of people who listen to this program but there are a lot of people in america completely unaware of this they completely buy the the mainstream narrative they totally buy it they don't they have no idea that this is actually happening and that merrick garland who's a wicked figure actually it does it doesn't seem possible. It's true. They, they, they are unaware of that, but also true is that Pam Bondi testified before Congress that this was not happening anymore. And she's wrong. She is mistaken. And she should know better because we have cases that are sitting in the Department of Justice that are not seeing the light of day because the people at the Department of Justice are not working on behalf of

these American families and parents. And so we have asked for an executive order. We, We have talked to Department of Justice. We've talked to the Department of Education. We've spoken with the Department of Domestic Policy and many others. And unfortunately, they are sitting on their hands. And I do not understand why. We elected this president to work on behalf of American citizens. And he's done some great things with the border.

And he's done some great things with the economy. And I don't take any of that away from him. However, when you have people that are actively targeting these parents and destroying their lives, going after their businesses, trying to destroy their businesses, trying to take their jobs away from them. And we have parents who have lost their jobs because of the actions of the school boards. This has to stop. And the administration has to step in.

It's a federal issue. It began at the federal level with Merrick Garland and the FBI. And it is time for the federal government to step in on behalf of American families. And Eric, here's the crux of the issue. is it wasn't just these families. Because these families were then positioned in this manner, other families said, oh, I'm not going to speak at a school board meeting.

Who wants to speak at a school board meeting today? Because we all saw what they did to these parents, the father in Virginia, who spoke at the school board meeting on behalf of his daughter who was raped. And instead of going after the rapist, because he was transgender, they just quietly transferred the boy to another school

so he could rape another girl. And that father was thrown to the ground in front of everybody, in front of the nation, as a way of having a chilling effect on the parents who want to speak out on behalf of their children. I cannot remember what is the name of the current governor in Virginia? I can't think of who it is. Norwood.

Norwood? I don't think so, is it? Well, in any event, the person who was running for governor, when this went down, stupidly made some statement basically siding with, you know, the evil people who say parents have no role in their children's education. And he pretty much lost the election as a result of that. I can't think of his name as a big Clinton crony. But the fact of the matter is, folks, this does not end.

this keeps going. And it's a good question, Sam. Unless we do something. Unless the administration steps in and says, oh, we're going to investigate this. We are issuing a preservation of documents order. How is it possible that Attorney General Bondi has not done that or has she done that? She has not done that. The people that I represent are very frustrated because they have gotten almost no traction. They've gotten some words. We had a hearing that was scheduled for Pam Bondi. It was derailed because of the shutdown, which frankly, as far as I'm concerned, the Democrats won the shutdown because they stopped our government from working on behalf of American citizens for 40 days or whatever it was. We had a hearing. It was postponed.

It's been postponed. It hasn't been rescheduled. We have nothing on the books. We have absolutely no traction. It's an outrage. And I'm working on behalf of those parents because those are at least the parents. who stood in the gap on behalf of their children. Well, you see, this is the thing.

What you just said here on the worst we have these parents that are heroes that are willing to stick their necks out and go through this hell. And then you have all kinds of people that say, well, I don't want any trouble. Folks, shame on you. Shame on you for allowing these parents to be singled out because if there were an army of parents standing up for what is right, none of this could happen.

And this is always the case. Eric, The end game, the end game is child human trafficking, sex trafficking of children. That is the end game. And we better, we better wise up and understand that. Now, I know that that seems like a leap to many people, but the first way to groom a child is to put pornography in front of them. That is exactly what they're doing in our schools.

They are fighting to have pornographic books that show two boys having sex together, or two girls, or beastially. And this is a level of wickedness that's inconceivable. It is absolutely stunning that we are having this conversation. So, folks, you need to understand what's going on in public schools in most cases is horrifying. So if you can either fight, you need to fight hard, or you need to get your kids out of these schools and homeschool them. But what is going on? I think what's interesting, Sam, and this goes on.

You know, it's a perpetual thing. As time passes, it's hard for me at my age to conceive of this because I think, well, I know things are not great. But when I grew up in the 70s, as bad as things were, they weren't beginning to begin to approach what we're talking about. Now, this has been incremental over the years. And a lot of leftist lunatics have taken over. It's the long marks through the institutions. They have taken over. and they are now ostensibly in charge of our kids' educations. It's absolute madness. They have an agenda. It's not about educating kids.

It's about indoctrinating kids. And I used to think that this kind of talk was just, oh, you know, you don't have to be so radical. Take it easy. It's unfortunately far worse than we're saying. When you look at this, you cannot believe. What could be more wicked than exposing innocent children to sexual images to sexual ideas before they're ready for that? What could be more wicked than that? That is wicked. You're doing permanent harm to these children. This is permanent harm. That's right. By exposing a kid, I thank God

that I never saw stuff that I shouldn't see when I was young. What does that do to you? It just messes you up forever. You know, you need healing. You need prayers to be healed from this kind of violation. And that is what is happening right now. So if you're not in the fight, folks, you need to at least be aware of the fight and you need to do what you can. You mentioned parents demanding justice alliance. Is there a website where folks can... You can go to Sam Sorba.com. All the links are there.

I've made it very easy for people. We are accepting... Sam Sorbo.com. We're accepting donations. We're fighting on behalf of these parents that is not easy to do, especially with the lack of... I mean, look, we've gotten in the Department of Justice. We've talked to Ed Martin.

We've talked to others there, right? Right. But for some reason, Ed Martin was taken off of the weaponization working group and put on mortgage fraud with James Comey. And I'm going, but literally him, he was implanted in order to do things on behalf of people like the parents I represent, the weaponization of government. And instead, they pivoted him into a different direction. And I don't understand it. And honestly, I'm asking people, write your congresspeople, write your senators and ask them, What is the government doing on behalf of American families? Because the American family is the bedrock of our culture. It is the fabric of our civilization. Once we destroy the American family, which is what the schools are in the process of doing right now, we won't have a culture.

We won't have a nation. We need our families. And we need parents who will stand in the gap on behalf of their children because the evildoers, they want to have sex with your kids. And I'm sorry to put it so bluntly. But they really, really do. Can we just talk about something light, like boozing it up with Kevin, with leftists, tears of the left? Well, you know, it's funny because if you want me to bring this full circle, God destroyed the world because humans had become so evil in the time of Noah.

And you go, how could they become that evil? Like, how evil must that have been? I'll tell you, some of that evil is present in our schools today. I'm sorry to say. I just we just got a couple of seconds left before that, Sam, I want to do a commercial. I want just to remind people,

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meaningful. So please check it out at ericmetaxis.com. And don't forget my store.com and my pillow. com, please use the code Eric. I'm talking to Sam Sorbo. Sam, you know, it is always a challenge for me when you hear about the wickedness that's going on out there. And you were just referencing, you know, the film that you and Kevin are in about Noah. And I think we've all been living in a bubble because America in our lifetimes, like, you know, things have been generally good. We can't fathom the evilness of evil, but we're seeing it. We're seeing it. When we talk about trafficking children, when we talk about grooming children, exposing children to sexual images and ideas, you can't think of anything more sick than that, that that's happening with your tax payer dollars, folks. If you're not in the fight against this one way or the other,

you're part of the problem, folks. We've got to be all hands. on deck. Sam, I'll just give you the last comment, just a couple of minutes left. Yeah, I just you know, I'm fighting on behalf of these parents. I'm hoping that we will get some traction in the new, you know, early in the new year

because something has to give. These parents are still undergoing attacks. This is what people don't understand is when a leftist, when an ideologue who believes in Marxism, believes in communism, believes in pornography, believes that there is no God, right? When they get, be in their body,

when they start moving, okay? They don't stop unless you stop them. And that's where we are today. So this movement has been coming through our schools. You mentioned Long March through the institutions. It's been coming through our schools for quite a while, and no one has stopped it. We've allowed it to just proceed,

even though we've sort of said, hey, I don't think that's right. Or maybe the division. Look, a lot of so-called Christians, evangelical Christians, couldn't care less. They just want their little happy life and their little seeker-friendly church. They don't want to get in the fight. They don't want to be called names. They're afraid of being called names.

So they don't want to be in. Well, that's the conclusion I've come to. If you're not in the fight against evil, when kids are involved, I don't want to hear about your Jesus. Don't talk to me about your faith. Who cares? I don't care. I don't want that faith. It's fake faith.

It's meaningless. But that works is dead. It's dead. And so if people claim, you know, to care about the good, the true, and the beautiful, if you're not in this fight, if you're saying, well, I'll let somebody else fight that. We're not a call to fight in the same way. But you better care about it. You better do what you can.

If you're not doing what you can, you are complicit with evil. And there are a lot of folks. We could not have all this wickedness happening if it weren't for people doing nothing. It's people that are sitting on the fence and what I say over and over, the devil only. the devil owns the fence. You think you're on the fence. The devil owns the fence. You're working with him. Eric, I just adore you. I love talking to you. And thank you so much for having me on. This is, it's so great to check in with you like this and know that you're, you've got my back. I've got your back. And yeah, I'd like to encourage people to get in the fight. And by the way, you can go to sorbustodios.com.

Sign up for a newsletter. We do have some Christmas specials going. So if you're looking for Christmas gifts, go to sorbillostudios.com. and help support parents demanding justice alliance also. I will ask that for this Christmas. That's my Christmas wish. I'm hoping that we get some good news before Christmas and get some justice for these parents. And for all of the parents out there, because these parents stood in the gap for the rest of us.

As David Putty said on Seinfeld, you've got to support the team. We've got to support the team folks. Sam's on the team. I'm on the team. Michael Dendell is on the team. Like, got to support the team. We're in a war.

But the Lord is with us. He's called us to the war. He's prepared us. He's created us for this. This is not a mistake. This is like, we're here for such a time as this. Sam Sorbo, we love you. God bless you.

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