The Eric Metaxas Show - #34- Larry Taunton⁠

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Today on the @EricMetaxasShow, I spoke with @LarryTaunton about the Venezuela operation story, why they frame it as America First, and how Venezuela, oil, and migration connect to China, Cuba, and U.S.... leverage. They also get into the Monroe Doctrine idea, the @WorlEconomicF, and a discussion of Smartmatic, voting machines, and the 2020 election debate. TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 2:58 What Happened In Venezuela, Exactly? 6:42 How Did China Profit From Venezuela? 11:06 Why Is Venezuela Called A Narco State? 14:46 Is The Monroe Doctrine Back Now? 21:44 What Is Smartmatic’s Venezuela Connection? 29:45 Is Cuba Near Total Collapse? 40:11 What Is Davos Really About?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey there, folks. Happy Supercentennial. In case you didn't know, in case you didn't get the memo, 250, America's 250th. We are in that year now. It's 250 years since 1776. I'm, as you know, writing a book on the American Revolution. I'm going to be talking about the events of 1776 all year long throughout this year. The 250th is our supercentennial as a nation. I'm excited. We've got a lot of stuff planned. A lot of stuff planned. President Trump is putting up a super centennial arch. Have you heard about this? The super centennial arch is happening. The super centennial ballroom is happening. This is an amazing moment to be alive. There's all kinds of stuff happening in the news. In a couple of minutes, we're going to bring on my friend Larry Taunton. Larry Taunton,
Starting point is 00:00:53 if you have followed this program, you know who he is. He's a hero. He's an American hero. He has traveled around the world and confronted the fraud going on with USAID. He has traveled with migrants through the Dary end gap. He goes even more dangerous. He goes to Davos every year. Kind of amazing stuff. We're going to be talking to him about everything in just a moment. I want to remind you before we start, we have a number of sponsors.
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Starting point is 00:01:56 it's been my name for most of my life, Eric Metaxus, the dot-com part I have learned to live with. Ericmataxis.com. Basically, you'll see it come up. I think it'll slide by. It's the second banner. You click on it. All the details are there. Please give generously. Also, support our sponsors, Mike Lindell, mystore.com, and MyPillow.com. Please use the code, Eric, when you do that. We have a lot of other great sponsors. You see them in the description. If you haven't subscribed to this channel, subscribe. If your friends haven't subscribed, tell them about it. There's a lot more to share, but I'll leave it there. We'll be right back with Larry Taunton. Ladies and gentlemen, you will remember from seconds ago, I told you that my guest would
Starting point is 00:02:47 be Larry Taunton. I don't know if I promised it, but if I did, let me just say promises made, promises kept. Larry Taunton, welcome to this program. How are you, brother? This is our, you and I have not seen each other since the beginning of America's super centennial year. This is the super centennial. We've got so much happening. I want to talk to you about what's already happened. It's hard to believe.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Now, people watching you are wondering, hey, where is that guy? It looks to me. I'm in a secret location on a beach in Venezuela. Yeah, I was going to say you, it looks to me like what is behind you. It looks awfully similar to what I like to call the Gulf of America. Would I be getting that wrong? You are getting it absolutely right. And now with the acquisition of Venezuela, making it the 51st state, it just reaffirms that.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And you know what? I just want to say to my audience, listen, everybody knows I was up to be viceroy of Venezuela and Greenland. And you know what? If it doesn't happen, that's okay with me. Whatever God wants. Can I get the one you don't get? What? Can I get the one you don't get?
Starting point is 00:03:58 I was going to say, I want to both of them. You're allowed to have, you know, two viceroy or two, there's a word for this. What is the noun to be the vice roy? There's a term for this. I ought to know it. Of course I don't. Royal Order of the Water Buffalo. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:04:17 But so much is happening. I think I don't know where to start, Larry, because it is what we are talking today. this will air in a couple of days so things may change. I believe Mamdani is in custody, federal custody, in a courthouse in Brooklyn or in a detention center. I may be confusing Mamdani with the other communist thug, Maduro. I get them confused. No say, depends, as we say, in Guatemala and in Venezuela and those places.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I don't know. But the fact that so much is happening, I don't know where to start. I mean, Cuba, Greenland, Iran. Why don't we start with Iran? I mean, what do you suppose is happening? You know, I am probably not your best expert on Iran. I haven't followed that as closely.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But I do want to say this as it relates to Venezuela. I keep seeing a lot of people saying, you know, look, we have tried nation building before. you know, look at Afghanistan, look at Iraq, you know, look at what we, it seems like we're on the verge of doing in Iran. And I just want to say this, Venezuela is an entirely different situation. What we're talking about in Venezuela, we're talking about liberating, you know, a country. We're talking about a country with a culture that's not, you know, wholly dissimilar from our own. Hold on a second. This is a very important point, folks, and we haven't made this on the show.
Starting point is 00:05:52 when you go to a place like Venezuela, the structure is there. And I don't mean the infrastructure and the industry. I mean in the people. The people in Venezuela, many of them 15 years ago, were governing themselves. They were part of a free nation. Communists took over and all that changes. When you go to a place like Iraq or Afghanistan, you might as well be going to Somalia. there has been anarchy, there has been slavery through dictatorship for so long that they do not have the civic muscles to use an ugly term to govern themselves.
Starting point is 00:06:33 But in Venezuela, what you just said, Larry, is that we can, by the grace of God, we hope, free them once again to govern themselves. Well, exactly. In the countries you were just mentioning, there's also the biggest player in our failure. and nation-building is Islam. You know, they're operating from a wholly different, a worldview than what we're talking about in Venezuela. Venezuela was once a very successful, the wealthiest country in South America. And, of course, Marxism, socialism absolutely destroyed the economy,
Starting point is 00:07:14 destroyed families. I've spent an awful lot of time, as you well know, traveling all over South America. And if not the majority of the illegal aliens that I was encountering it, some people take it, you know, issue with that term. They are illegal aliens. And they're not just illegal aliens in the United States. They're illegal aliens in every country they pass through. So, you know, here I am maybe 10, 15 times down to Colombia and Brazil and Panama and Mexico and Daria.
Starting point is 00:07:50 in and on and on. What I was seeing particularly in Colombia is people pouring out of Venezuela because they could no longer feed their families. People who wanted to go home, people who wanted to stay in Venezuela, but simply didn't have that opportunity. And all because of socialism, you only need mention that word to them. And you see them roll their eyes at Chrome because they would know what that meant for them, all the promises of, you know, a better life and these kinds of things that never came about. And yet Chavez and Maduro back to back, who just utterly obliterated the economy of that country and the effects on the lives of millions of people, but also indirectly upon the United States, has been huge. And that's why I say that what's happening in
Starting point is 00:08:40 Venezuela, as you know, Eric, I'm not in favor of what has gone on in Ukraine. It's not America first. Ukraine and Russia are both equally corrupt of backward countries. Venezuela is America first, and that's because it affects us in a huge way. I mean, millions of Venezuelans have poured into our country, destabilizing South America, destabilizing Central America, and say nothing of drugs, of oil. All these things constitute America first. 70% of Venezuela's oil was going to China.
Starting point is 00:09:16 China was raping Venezuela. And now Trump is, Trump is playing a game of chess here. And Trump has now has the whip hand, as they say, because he has a card he did not have. He has leverage that he didn't have against China until now. And now that we are going to be controlling for the, you know, for the short term, certainly, Venezuela oil. This gives us a huge, huge bit of leverage against the Chinese. Hey there, folks.
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Starting point is 00:10:55 Or go to ericmetaxis.com and click on the banner. You'll see it. Ericmataxis.com. Click on the banner. Please give someone the gift of getting their life back. Provide life and freedom for someone right now. God bless you. There's so many things to say. I mean, when this was happening the other day, I was just staggered to think of the levels of this play. In other words, Venezuela basically,
Starting point is 00:11:24 and again, folks, it's a simple thing. If you're a corrupt pig and you worship the devil, you have no principles except, can you help me? Can you give me money and power? So Venezuela, basically it says to China, to Russia, to Cuba, to anybody, Hezbollah, Hamas, who are, who, if we can help you, if you can help us, we have no principles. So this becomes a launching pad for evil in the Western Hemisphere. That's what it has been forever. The drugs, so one level is drugs. You have drugs being pumped into United States of America. Can any of us doubt that China is behind that, they want to destabilize America and the West so they can have power. So guess what? We'll work with Venezuela. It's just a couple of hours away by plane from the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:12:18 We can pump drugs into the United States of America, devastate working class communities across America. We'll do that. Meanwhile, you have the issue of the instability that they have pushed millions of people across our borders, which has further destabilized. us and caused all kinds of problems. Venezuela's been the launching pad for all of this. And then we get to the voting machines. Our CIA, again, unprincipled, wicked power players have said, who can we work with to do what we want to do? It looks like Venezuela will play ball with us. So why don't we work with them? And they have destabilized the very foundation of our nation, self-rule. We the people elect people to represent us. They've destabilized that. Trump,
Starting point is 00:13:14 in one fell swoop, has attacked all of this. So what happens? I don't know. But it's just an astonishing layered play. Yeah, I agree with that completely. And just speaking from personal experience in South America, you know, I was increasingly noticing, Eric, that the Chinese were were everywhere, you know, that they were getting an increasing foothold, not just in Venezuela, but throughout South America. You know, we know that when Trump was elected, that one of his first acts was to begin to reassert control over the Panama Canal. Why? Because the Chinese were essentially controlling it. So in a lot of ways, this is a reassertion of the old Monroe doctrine. And when the Monroe Doctrine was first issued in the early, you know, 19th century, the United States had no
Starting point is 00:14:14 ability whatsoever to enforce it. The Royal Navy enforced it by de facto because it just, it just so happened that our interests and their interests aligned in terms of, you know, wanting, you know, European powers meddling in the Western Hemisphere. But now we're not just talking European powers. We're talking Asian, you know, powers when we're speaking of China. And so now, you know, you might call this Monroe Doctrine 2.0 or Trump doctrine. And all of this relates. Yeah, Donro. It's the Donro doctrine.
Starting point is 00:14:49 The Donro doctrine, which makes good sense. But again, for America to be safe, I think of it like this. And, you know, maybe this analogy isn't perfect. I guess none are. But if your home is continually being assailed by people, coming out of a crack house, you know, just down the street. And that you're seeing that increasingly people are taking residence in that crack house who have a malevolent bent towards you, towards your family. It makes sense to go down and clear that thing out because it affects you. And see,
Starting point is 00:15:29 a lot of Americans, there is this mindset that somehow anything that happens beyond our borders is irrelevant to us. And I understand that people have become very upset by things like Ukraine, like Afghanistan. This is America first. This is what I voted for. And this has been something that I think even on your show, I have said on and off for years that this is what had to happen because, you know, drugs and China aside, if nothing else for the safety of America, for the protection of our own borders, South America, the countries from which these people are originating or pouring into our country, their countries have to become livable, that they can stay home. And so what Trump is doing here, I think is incredibly important. We're not dealing with people
Starting point is 00:16:22 of an alien mindset. I do believe that we will see a Venezuela emerge from this that is stronger, that is better, that is prosperous, that good things begin to happen. And by the way, I don't know if you picked, if you were able to listen to the entire, what was it on Saturday, I think, the entire, or maybe it was Friday. Every word. Yes, I did too. Did you pick up on the fact that Rubio was hinting that Cuba might be next? Oh, he was barely hinting.
Starting point is 00:16:54 He was barely hinting. He was like, if I lived in a event, I was part of the government, I'd be worried. That is exactly what he said. I mean, listen, what's interesting here, and I don't think I have said it, there is a right way to exercise power. America has had tremendous power, and we have exercised it largely for good, but in recent years we have largely not exercised it. we have allowed evil, evil actors to do things that have gone unanswered. Absolutely. We have not fought back.
Starting point is 00:17:35 We have not swatted them. We have tremendous power. We have not used it. And so here you have a president who is not afraid to use American power because he knows he's not racist. He's not colonialist. He's not what he knows he's not. He knows that what he's trying to do is going to. to bless the whole world. He knows that. And it's mostly going to bless America. He knows that. So he's not afraid of what the UN Security Council, who, what they're going to say or what, you know, Mom Donnie is going to say or what President Xi is going to say. Okay. Are you going to say he, are you going to say he didn't send these guys into Venezuela? Are you saying that this isn't our special forces that went in and pulled this off? You, you are showing on your phone. I don't know. It is.
Starting point is 00:18:25 That's the meter made. What is what is his name? Sam Brinton, Sam Brinton, the nuclear engineer. Rachel Levine. Rachel Levine. Yeah, these are these are. His real name is Dick Levine, by the way, which I find quite ironic. Oh, the irony.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So, so think about it, folks. We have a president willing to assert power legitimately. And it's no different really than, you know, to use your analogy. It's like you're living in a house down the street. is a crack house. Now imagine who's living in your house. Is it your stepfather who you don't like very much and you wonder if he's messing around with your teenage sister? Or is the man of the house your father whom you love and who loves you and you know that anything goes on, he's on it. He's on top of it. I mean, when you think about the Biden administration or you think about
Starting point is 00:19:21 the Obama administration, it's like there was nobody really home. It was like an absentee stepdad. Sometimes he's drunk. We don't know what is really going on. There was nobody home. There was nobody to make sure that there's nothing bad going on in the neighborhood. Or if you hear somebody in the backyard, he's going to go after him. He knows how to deal with the bad guys.
Starting point is 00:19:46 That's suddenly what we have in America. And when you have that, the liberals who are basically feminized, they're uncomfortable with all, they think all power is bad power. They think all, they think that every man is a toxic male. They're fundamentally uncomfortable with power because they're unfamiliar with the idea of goodness. They don't know what it is to have a good, loving, self-sacrificial father. So when you have a president who's behaving in the way that I assume our best president,
Starting point is 00:20:19 whether Lincoln or Washington, would have behaved, they don't even know what that is. They can't imagine that it's anything good, but it is. Most Americans see it as good. Yeah, I agree with that. And I am hoping and have good reason to hope and believe that all of this has a righteous. And I use that word very deliberately a righteous ending. But it's good to see the president of the United States wielding a male. American military might for a just cause, not for some sordid globalist cause, which is what Ukraine is all about.
Starting point is 00:21:02 That's part of the globalist agenda. It's not America first. This is America first. This is cleaning out the crack house down the street that has been sending out people who are killing the people in our own house, who are sailing our own house, and who are aiding others and doing it. from that crackout. So to me, this makes, this makes perfect sense. I applaud the, the President of the United States, the Secretary of War, the Secretary of State. It remains to be seen what the Justice Department does here. I'm sure hoping they do not fumble the ball in all this. what do you think when when we think about Venezuela and Smartmatic and Dominion in these machines and how our deep state has been working with them. And again, ladies and gentlemen, the deep state, they have no principles. They are scum.
Starting point is 00:22:02 They do not believe in American principles, in biblical principles. They are arrogant. They just want to run the world. They think they know what's best. I would like to think that most of these deep state actors, whether Comey, Brennan, Clapper, the whole gang, that they are deeply worried that Maduro is going to flip, if somebody can't get to him the way they maybe got to Epstein, that he is going to spill the beans, make a good deal for himself, and explain how the 2020 election was stolen. Yeah, I've seen people theorizing that. that would be fascinating to see that happening. I don't know what is going to happen here.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Maduro, listen, this is kind of like that movie trope. I mean, we've seen a million times where the good guy catches the bad guy and he's holding a gun on him and he says, you won't kill me, you can't. You have to abide by the wall. You know, we've all seen that scene and countless TV shows and in countless movies. Maduro is behaving like that. You see him giving the thumbs up and, you know, acting very arrogantly because he knows that the United States, we are, or at least have traditionally been, until very recently, Democrat shenanigans, have been a country of law
Starting point is 00:23:33 that we observe a due process. So we'll have to wait and see how all of this plays out. For me, rather than comparing this to Afghanistan or, you know, Iraq or, you know, Kuwait or Vietnam or something like that, to me, this most closely resembles the police action against suddenly his name, Manuel Noriega in Panama in 1989. And I've been to Panama many times in recent years. Is it that long ago? It's 1989? 1989. Isn't that incredible? Wow. And so what I'm wondering, if you'll recall this, he was brought to the United States for trial,
Starting point is 00:24:18 but then he was sent back to Panama to face a trial in front of his home people, where he was tried and he eventually died in prison. We also have, you know, during the Nuremberg trials, things like this that happened, where they were tried, you know, at Nuremberg, but then let's say, Rudolph Hess, the camp commandant of Auschwitz, he was then sent to Poland where he was tried by Polish courts
Starting point is 00:24:47 and hanged in Auschwitz. You don't mean Rudolph Hess. You mean someone else, but I don't know. Well, his, I don't know the, his, it's H-O-E-S-S, as Rudolph Hoyce is the way No. Oh, so no, you're, okay, then you're,
Starting point is 00:25:03 then it would be pronounced, Hus, his. Yes. But that's different. I can't help an Americanized. No, no, no, no, you're not, well, there's several, there's several figures. You're thinking of the, you're thinking of the, the, uh, the, uh, uh, rice minister who flew to Scotland in, uh, in 1940. Yeah. H-E-S-S, but they're both Rudolph Hoise Hess.
Starting point is 00:25:23 That's amazing. So they're, you're, that you're, that you're, uh, that you're bringing that level of specificity to the Nazi thugs to the, no, but that's, well, that's, yeah, that's what happened in, in that case. And I am guessing that the plan here, is going to be to try him in U.S. courts because he was a fugitive, as Trump pointed out, of American justice. But then they, once Venezuela is, you know, is trustworthy with their own courts, my guess is they will want to send him back in Manuel Noriega style to Venezuela to face justice there. I bet you that that's what they have in mind. And by the way, having been in Panama many times in recent years,
Starting point is 00:26:08 Panama is, you know, is, it's not corruption-free, but Panama is light years ahead of where they were in the 1980s. And it is one of the most stable democracies in Central America. And so, you know, so we have been successful in nation building in modern times. And again, and that's because there is some element of shared culture, shared worldview here. And Venezuelans are generally very, very, pro-American. Hey there, folks. Quick word from today's sponsor. When you hear about rockets, drones, missiles, or a terror attack in Israel, somebody has to rush in after the sirens. That is Magin David Adom, Israel's National Emergency Medical Service, basically Israel's 911. They dispatch every ambulance in the country, take thousands of emergency calls every day, and they also collect, process, and distribute the nation's blood supply for civilians and the IDF. Since October 7th, Magen Davita Dome says they've lost 40 of their people, medical professionals, and 17 ambulances have been destroyed or disabled.
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Starting point is 00:27:45 Hi, everyone. If you were injured in an accident, listen up. We have legal professionals standing by to answer your questions. You can find out if you have a case and how much it's potentially worth. I'm Gina Bellich, along with Super Bowl champ and two-time pro bowler Vernon Davis. So Vernon, tell everyone watching who should call right now. Well, Gina, if you are someone, you're going to be able to be. you know were injured in an accident that was not your fault. Give us a call right now. You can find
Starting point is 00:28:14 out if you have a case and how much money is potentially worth. Thanks, Vernon. You know, the phones have really been busy. So what kind of calls have we been getting? We're getting calls about all types of accidents from car accidents to slipping falls and so many others. So if you were injured in an accident, don't go at it alone. Call for a free case review and find out how much your case is potentially worth. Thanks, Vernon. You heard the man call now to find out how much money you qualify for. I mean, we have to go back to World War II. I mean, and again, what's interesting to me, Larry, is how people get stuck on things, right?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Like, it's stuck on, it's nation building. It's a forever war. You want to say, excuse me, shut up. Please shut up. And, like, try to bring a little context here, okay? Because we all know the kind of nation building, you know, if you're going to be to Afghanistan, it's like going to Somalia. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:29:08 There's no bone structure. there's nothing there. And so just because you can get some people wearing the Khador's, you know, to take the purple ink and to vote, whatever. That's not, you know, a reprisal of 1776. But there are countries, Japan, Germany, where we have gone in and we have rebuilt them. You know, once when the Germany's, when Germany was defeated in World War II, obviously, we went in there and we helped them to create a stable nation. We did it in Japan.
Starting point is 00:29:46 We could have done a lot more of it, but there's a way to do it that is not nation building in the pejorative sense. And so the question is what we might do in a place like Venezuela. Again, when you bring up Cuba, I don't know what happens there. I mean, I really don't, I can't even imagine what, what. You know, I was, and this is just the nature of my life. life, Eric, as you know. I was smoking cigars in Havana at Coheba three years ago with a Cuban military colonel. So Coheba is, you know, one of the most famous cigars in the world.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And I'm sitting and chatting with this guy who just handed me all these free cohebas. Cohebas are crazy expensive cigars. You're hanging out with a Marxist military figure. And Marxist military figure, who I suspected was being very. careful in what he had to say, but who very much gave me the impression, A, that he was very pro-American, and B, the liberation of Cuba was something that just wasn't off the table for him. I think Cubans, like Venezuelans, they would be celebrating in the streets. We would be liberating the country, rather than, you know, the fear that we would be facing an Okinawa or an Iwojima-type bloodbath.
Starting point is 00:31:09 and trying to reclaim that island, I think we would get something very different there. And that's because my experience in Cuba suggests they're also very pro-American. And by the way, I want to tell this little story. There's all kinds of statistics and things that we can share about, you know, how many people, you know, Marxists, you know, socialists have killed just in the previous century alone to say nothing of this one. But this is just a little story to indicate what socialism does. I recall when I was there, my translator, she's probably 40, and we've just left a meeting. And I look at my watch and I think, you know, it's lunchtime.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And I said to her, you know, it's the Cuban sandwich. Is that an American thing? Like, did we invent that and just label it the Cuban sandwich? Or is it actually Cuban? And she goes, no, it's Cuban. It originated here. And I said, are they any good? I've never had one.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And she said, I've never had one either. And I said, what? You've never had a Cuban sandwich in your Cuban? And she said, Eric, she said without any sense of irony, she wasn't joking. She said, no, she said, we can't afford the meat. And I said, are you kidding? She said, no, no. She said, never, I've never had one.
Starting point is 00:32:27 We can't afford meat. And I said, well, today, I'm changing your life. We are going to find a restaurant where we can have Cuban. in sandwiches. But, I mean, think of that. It'd be like me asking you if you've ever had, you know, if you've, you've ever had a meat lover's pizza and you say, you know, I can't afford me to put on a pizza. I've never had a sandwich. You're, you're bringing up something which is close to my heart because my mother and father suffered growing up. And I think most Americans are so spoiled, especially liberals. They have no idea. They have no idea. All the idiots that voted
Starting point is 00:33:03 from Mom Dani have no idea of the suffering in the world that there are people who, because of their governments, do not have the ability to buy food. The kind of thing that we take for granted on such a level that we can't even comprehend that, well, what do you mean you can't buy a what are you talking about? Most of the world suffers. And we in America have been so spoiled. We in the West have been so spoiled. And we need to deal with this, that there's evil in the world. They're evil regimes in the world. And when you go to places like Cuba, these people, there is suffering. There's no matter how you slice it, they're suffering.
Starting point is 00:33:42 So I guess the question is whether we will be able to go in there and help them. I mean, I don't know, you know, when Khrushchev was in power, when Castro took over, it's not clear to me what America did at the time. I mean, I guess Kennedy made some effort, but when you've got the Soviet Union pointing nukes, it becomes a little complicated. Yeah, for sure. The Cuba Missile Crisis, the Bay of Pigs, and I think also the regime, the Batista regime that preceded a Castro's 59 revolution overtaking, you know, the country was also very corrupt. It was pro-American, but it was a banana, it was a banana republic. So it was very hard to find a moral high ground in supporting
Starting point is 00:34:32 Batisa. But, you know, now we're sideways with Russia already. So why not take Cuba and liberate those people? Again, this comes back to a just and proper use, a moral use of American military might, not just rushing off into, you know, into a Vietnam or, you know, into an Afghanistan or, you know, what things that became, you know, a quagmire, and where nation building or, you know, establishing some form of democracy is virtually impossible because you're dealing with people of an alien, of an alien mindset, of an alien ideology. That is not the case in Venezuela. It's not the case of South America. It doesn't mean it won't be a uphill battle. I mean, there's tremendous corruption in South American governments, which leads me to this, by the way.
Starting point is 00:35:30 The importance of this has very broad implications for South America in general. And that is because Venezuela was the first of several, you know, countries that were toppled. You know, I fell to Marxists. And more recently, you know, we think that we think of the dubious selection in 2020 here. But you see, you know, there were several South American, in Central American countries that fell in dubious elections where these types of voting methods were used. Honduras fell. This just in recent years. Honduras, Peru, Brazil, which Americans are quite familiar with what happened there, a Columbia, Chile, the most stable democracy in
Starting point is 00:36:20 America, South America, all fell to Marxists at dubious elections. And where, by the way, CIA was said to have been involved. So now we might be seeing, you know, the process a changing. And Columbia, which is a country that's very dear and near and dear to my heart because I know so many people in that country and it spent so much time in that country, Petro, who is the current president of that country, took office in what, 2024, I think. Petro is an out-and-out terrorist. And by that I mean a literal. He is a literal terrorist who captured the presidency. And now he's been, you know, saber-rattling.
Starting point is 00:37:05 He was very tight with Maduro. You know, so the previous president distanced himself from Maduro, closed the border. Well, Petro, as soon as he took office, he opened the border. And now, Colombia, which is a country that has been slowly climbing out of its melee economic. and in terms of corruption since the days of Pablo Escobar in the 1990s, it has become, in some case, like Medellin, which in the 1990s had the highest per capita murder rate in the world. Medellin had become a lovely city. So now it was starting to go in the other direction with Petro becoming president.
Starting point is 00:37:48 So I think it's going to be very interesting because Petro, has just lost one of his key supporters. And that is Maduro. And I think you're also going to see the Russians and the Chinese trying to move from Venezuela over to Colombia. Wait and see. Well, actually, it's interesting because I believe in the comments made Saturday morning at the press conference, I believe either Trump or Secretary of State Rubio mentioned Colombia. that they should be, you know, watching it.
Starting point is 00:38:26 So it is, all these folks have been put on notice. I think the awesome power of the United States military, the frightening power of the United States military, the whole world noticed that we can do just what we did in Iran a few months ago, that there is no other nation on earth that has the power to do this kind of thing. And so I guess we'll see. Yep, I'm in a complete agreement with that, Eric. What else should we talk about with regard to?
Starting point is 00:39:02 I mean, there's so many pieces of this. Mamdani making a deal potentially and spilling the beans on what happened in the 2020 election. Give me a Maduro. What did I say, Mamdani? Yeah. Yeah, you'll notice how I get my communist thugs confused. I find it funny that Mom Dani, like a squeaking mouse, said something the day after or the day that, you know, we captured Maduro. And he said something.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I thought to myself, why would anyone in the world care? This is a 33-year-old child. He's a spoiled child. He's never held a job. He's a sock puppet. He's, I don't know what he is. It's so pathetic. He didn't write that. He didn't write that. Someone else wrote that for him. He is a globalist. He's a globalist sock puppet. And I'm sure that that was a statement prepared for him and said, we want you to put this out on social media. We want you to say this. We want you to have this kind of bearing and act as though you're ahead of state. And that's what's going on with that. But I think, you know, Eric, in a couple of weeks, let me see. What is the date today? Yeah, in a couple of weeks, I will. be at the World Economic Forum. It starts on the 19th. And it's going to be very interesting this
Starting point is 00:40:27 year because Klaus Schwab is no longer, he's been removed. Listen, this is, we've all lived in a time, you know, as we've been saying, where America has not been exercising its power well or appropriately. And we now have a president who is doing that. And people are freaking out. The whole world is freaking out. It's kind of like daddy's home and he's taking his belt off. You get better watch yourself. Did you say you can take the garbage out? I'd do it if I were you. Um, you know, and that's kind of what's happening right now and people don't know how to deal with it. And part of that has to do with with a feminized culture that sees all masculinity as toxic. They don't understand that power can be used for good to bless people. Um, and, and so, you mean, you mean,
Starting point is 00:41:18 You mean like this? Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to see, but I think some people were able to see. But, I mean, when we think of the, the cavalcade of DEI trans freaks given to us by the Biden administration, it is, it's just, it, you know, we knew it couldn't last. But I have to say, it's, it's jarring to go from that to, you know, Pete Hegseth and, and Marco Rubio, people that you just say that they actually, they actually, they actually. care and they're actually willing to stick their necks out for what's right. And obviously, the head of that, President Trump. Yeah, well, when the Disney movie about this operation comes out,
Starting point is 00:42:01 Rachel Levine, Dick Levine, and Sam Brinton will be the heroes of that. And they will have gone down and single-handedly captured a white, a fascist dictator by the name of L-12. Trumpo. Yeah. That will be the Disney version. That's the Disney version. Well, listen, something, something has happened. And ladies and gentlemen, I don't say it enough. It's by the grace of God. It's the answer to prayers that the saints have prayed and prayed and prayed. We have prayed and interceded for this nation. And God has blessed us mightily. And I really do believe he intends to bless us this year, our super centennial year, I think this is going to be year of Jubilee and Blessing.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I hope that's the case. I believe that is the case, but we need to pray. Larry, before we go, any final thoughts? So much happening. Well, I can only just underscore what you've just said, that we really need to be praying for our nation. Frankly, I'm waiting for our special forces to go into Minneapolis. I'm waiting for them to depot.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I mean, there is a measure of irony. that Maduro went from a socialist Marxist hellhole and was flown into another socialist Marxist hellhole called New York. There is irony, you know, in that. I guess he decided that his punishment should be that he should have to live in the kind of place that he's created. You know, I don't know. But I'm very hopeful. And I have nothing but good things to say for Pete Hager's Seth, for Mark, Marka Rubio, for President Trump, everything they've done here, I just think was just really professional and outstanding. Well, I agree.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I think what is happening in the world right now, this is an answer to prayer, folks, what's happening in Iran, pray for Iran, pray for the people of Iran, the Christians in Iran, the Christians in Nigeria. We haven't talked about that. There is so much happening. And America is under this president a force for good. Praise the Lord. Larry Taunton, thanks for being my guest. Always a joy to see you. A terrific. See him, by the way, if things go as planned, I will not just be at the Weft, but I'll also be in Nigeria in about a month's time. But listen, you take care, brother, and just know that this awaits you. That is beautiful. The Gulf of America, ladies and gentlemen. All right. God bless you. Thank you, Larry. During the hars of the Holocaust, Corey Ten Boom and her Dutch family, as told in her classic book, The Hiding Place, risked everything to shelter Jewish neighbors in their home. They were betrayed and sent to concentration camps, yet Corey survived and went on to preach forgiveness and hope around the world. That same redemptive spirit lives on in Ten Boom Coffee, working with Agro Cafe and Israeli AgTech.
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