The Eric Metaxas Show - #81 - Isabel Brown

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

Today on The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric talks with Isabel Brown about Charlie Kirk’s legacy, the spiritual battle shaping this cultural moment, Gen Z’s hunger for faith, the war on family, and why marriage, motherhood, and children have become radical again. Later, Eric speaks with Boca Raton mayor Scott Singer about the America First Mayors Council, New York’s decline, and why people and businesses are fleeing blue city chaos. Subscribe for clips from The Eric Metaxas Show to hear politics and culture from a Christian perspective.

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That's her job. Isabel Brown, she's the host of the Isabel Brown show. I don't know how she got that gig, probably because of her name. Isabel Brown, I don't know how to sum you up. I'm just going to say, welcome to the program. Thank you, Eric. It's a pleasure to be here. Last time I saw you, we were running through a busy airport.

So it's exciting to sit down and have some time to chat this morning. I know. Well, listen, you, you know, you're one of the few people. This sounds like such a cliche, but I don't care. You put a smile on my face. You make me happy because of your attitude. You have a great attitude. And actually, speaking as Christians, that's very important, you know,

because you can get all the facts, but you can project doom and gloom, and that's not good, because that's working against the facts. And so I just appreciate that about you, that you have kind of a happy, giggly, smirky view of the world. So thank you for that,

Isabel. Thank you. That is about the best compliment you could have given me. And, you know, it's something I have to check every single day, I think especially in the last six months or so. It's been so obvious how loud the demons

are getting in our society. but I've had to remind myself that despair itself is a sin, right? Faith is what we're supposed to cling to, and we have to remain joyful in the face of all of the evil going around in the world because we're fighters. We don't give up. That's crazy, talk, Isabel. I'm a scientist, materialist.

I don't believe any of that stuff, angels, demons. I just care about what is. No, honestly, if you are paying attention, what you just said is it's the most important thing. And it just is. And you're quite right. and I do want to talk to you about this. It has astonished me, actually.

The darkness, the satanic activity. And that's, you know, for those of us who are aware that there is an invisible realm, that's very real and it's very clear that, I mean, this is just kind of like, it's like the physics. When the Holy Spirit comes in, the demons kick up a fuss. And we've seen the power of God come in. Kirk's memorial, it was one of the most glorious things I have ever seen in my life. I almost can't think of anything that the power of God, the words of God were broadcast to the whole world. It was so

powerful. And it kicked up a lot of vicious, nasty interference in the demonic realm. And we're sort of, we've been trying to process that. I guess there's a way to put it. We're trying to process it. Yeah, you know, Eric, I share your same mentality there. I don't think I've ever experienced anything in my life quite as poignantly obvious that the tangible nature of the Holy Spirit was so clear in that room at Charlie's Memorial in the midst of evil and darkness that so many of us who knew and loved Charlie had been dealing with that previous week, that was such a light moment for us to realize that Charlie is still working just in a different zip code and God is obviously still working in our society. And that's why we have to continue fighting with our hands. in the midst of this often upside down broken culture that we live in, of course, that's really going to upset the forces of evil, too. And the forces of evil are raging a war now that they have seen young people overwhelmingly leading this religious revival that we're seeing in our culture. But that's why we can't lose hope, because it is young people who are going to church

and reading the Bible more than their grandparents are, who are doing these mass baptism events on their college campuses, who are converting to Christianity at record rates across the entirety of the Western world. Again, this isn't even just happening in America, but look at what happened right after Charlie Dag. You saw these huge prayer vigils happen in Seoul, South Korea, and Johannesburg, South Africa, and London, England by the millions. And that gives me such a reason to jump out of bed every morning, even when the easy thing would be to turn off the internet to stay away from a microphone, to start ignoring our responsibility to act. We need to make this world a little bit more

like the next one. And to see the impact that one young man was able to make Charlie Kirk and his ability to bring so many people to Christ should be a call to action for us all. Well, thank you. And I know you identify publicly as a young person. So you kind of tell me, I can't imagine you have much of a story because you're too young to have any story. But like, how did you get to be doing what you're doing? How were you raised? What is the story of Isabel Brown? Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that about being identifying as a young person. Most of the Gen Zers out there call me a geriatric Gen Zer now because I had the audacity. to be born in the 1990s. There's a great meme template floating around on TikTok about people asking

when you were born. And if it starts with 1990, they immediately throw you on like a gravestone or with the dinosaurs or the cavemen. So I like to think I'm still pretty young. I have a Gen Zier. But I really got into this industry in a totally unexpected roundabout way. My dream in life was to become a physician. And I went to college and graduate school to get degrees in biomedical sciences. is. The very long story short, and I wrote a book about this, and I've talked about it many times publicly, but for the sake of time, is that I fell in love with activism along the way on my college campus, feeling incredibly isolated and alone as a young Christian and conservative. And I became friends with an amazing young man named Charlie Kirk, who encouraged me to

abandon my plans for life and instead start thinking about how God wanted to use me instead with the gifts and talents that he had given me. So ended up becoming a content creator right at the beginning of the whole make videos on Instagram for a living thing, which was very fun to tell my lawyer parents that I didn't want to go to medical school. I want to make Instagram videos for a living, but they've been incredibly supportive. And along the way, since I really started this in 2019, have worked with almost every pro-life and Christian and conservative media company in the space these days hosting a daily show over at the Daily Wire bearing my name, which is a huge responsibility, but incredible honor. Well, I didn't know. I'm

I'm always shocked at what I didn't know because I think I know everything, but it turns out I don't. So where were you in college when you bumped into Charlie Kirk? And how did that happen? I went to college at the pretty traditionally conservative agricultural school in my home state of Colorado at Colorado State. And I avoided Boulder at all costs because the big rumor was you were going to be turned into a Marxist involuntarily if you went to school there. Lo and behold, my friends who were at Boulder never had an issue with being an outspoken conservative. and CSU in Fort Collins, Colorado, almost to Wyoming, was secretly on a mission really to become the next Mizoo at the time. They wanted to be the social justice university of the entire country, and they really have succeeded in doing that, unfortunately. But I found myself sitting in classes like biomedical sciences, physiology and anatomy, eukaryotic cell biology.

And instead of the— Excuse me. Yeah, go for it. Yeah, go for it. Cell biology, ladies and gentlemen, EU, that's the Greek prefix for good. Cariotic, I'll leave that to Isabel. Yes, indeed. Well, it was interesting, Eric, because you think all these classes are about the pursuit of

objective truth, what science is supposed to be about, and why I fell in love with science in the first place. But in that class, eukaryotic cellular biology, I had to take a test where the wrong answer choice about the origins of the universe was that God created the universe. You would be marked off if you

answered that on your exam. This is still happening, and it's not the plot of God's Not Dead movies that you see in the movie theater. This is happening on college campuses every single day. So naturally felt very disenfranchised by my experience. And I've never been one to sit down quietly and keep my head down and shut up. Right around that time, I got a targeted Facebook ad for Turning Point USA, this teeny tiny activism organization at the time for their annual women's conference. I think it was the second year that they had put it on in 2017.

And something in my soul, I think now it was the Holy Spirit, told me I had to go to this event with a few hundred other girls from across the country in Dallas, Texas, where I met a young man named Charlie Kirk. And incidentally, he ended up doing one of his first major speaking events on a college campus to my TPSA chapter that I started that fall in Fort Collins, Colorado, which started up quite a bit. That was right around the beginning of the rise of Antifa. The radical left was becoming extremely, extremely loud. The National Guard for the state of Colorado had to be deployed to our college campus because they were worried Antifa was going to drive cars through. crowds of protesters that had been bust in from all over the West.

But Charlie really got the itch for campus events after that. And lo and behold, look at what happened the next several years. I had, I'm so glad I asked this. That's extraordinary. Now, Isabel, growing up, were you raised in a traditional Christian home, conservative? How did that happen for you? Sounds like it. I was, thank goodness.

And I attribute so much of what I do today, thanks to the constant involvement of my parents in my life still to this day, which is incredible. I was raised by two Catholic lawyers. So we talked about politics and religion around the family dinner table all the time. And I'm so grateful for that because in retrospect as a kid, when your mom says that there's a rule in our house, there's no such thing as a kid's table. And you have to sit with the adults and talk about everything going on in the world. Or every year, you have to watch the state of the union and understand what's happening in our country. Or, hey, we're going to force you to join the competitive speech and debate team, which I was terrified by.

It was social suicide. I ended up loving it. It was my favorite thing I did in high school. These seem like annoyances along the way throughout childhood and adolescence of parents who want way too much involvement in your life and want to dictate the trajectory of your life and your values. But without that solid foundation from my parents,

truly like most people in my generation, I think I would have been dropped off on a college campus knowing nothing about the things that I believe in, not knowing how to discern the difference between fact and fiction, between reality, truth, and everything that's politically convenient at the time. And I love sharing that now with young parents. And especially as a young parent myself, I have an almost one-year-old. These are the values I'm taking forward with me so that I can make sure to pass them down to the next generation, too.

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But it was not developed, really. And so, you know, my parents who never went to college, you know, think, oh, I'm going to learn everything. Our son got into Yale. It's going to be great. And I thought I'm going to learn it. And the moment I got there, you realized, oh, I have to now drink this Kool-Aid. All the cultural elites believe there's no God, America's bad. Those are the two basic narratives, right?

Like, no God and America bad. And it's related because we're talking about, you know, cultural Marxism. This is, of course, in the 80s of another century. And I just drank that Kool-Aid enough that I was thoroughly confused. And it's only by the grace of God miraculously. by the Holy Spirit grabbing me in my 20s and delivering me from that meaninglessness and confusion. And it is an amazing thing, isn't it?

Because we know not only is there truth, not only does God love us, but there's joy in the middle of it. Even in the midst of the battle, there's joy and laughter. And it's so beautiful and important. Now, did you spend some time at Georgetown? I did. I got my master's degree at Georgetown. And I'm actually back in school.

I know I'm such an evil, bad concern. conservative for feeding back into higher education, but I'm back in school right now getting my master's in theology at Notre Dame. Wow. Now, Notre Dame is one of those places. If you know what you're doing, you'll be fine. If you don't know what you're doing, you know, it's kind of like Georgetown. It's like, quote unquote, Catholic, not so much. Georgetown is very spiritually dark, I would say. So it's kind of amazing that you were there. But if you know what you're about, it's okay to go to these places. If I'd known what I've, what I've, was about at Yale, I would have been fine. But if you don't know what you're about, they're happy

to tell you, you know, how to become a Marxist atheist. You know, the other interesting thing about that, Eric, that I've discovered along the way is most of this really targeted indoctrination is not happening to graduate students. I received zero pushback whatsoever, even in pretty controversial classes related to public health, right as COVID was coming on to the scene and the role of the World Health Organization and all of these taboo topics you're not supposed to talk about. I never received any sort of backlash or punishment from my professors at Georgetown, and I certainly have it now pursuing theological studies at Notre Dame in graduate school. All of this indoctrination I'm finding is happening to undergraduates. And I think it's because of this reality that so many 18-year-olds don't know what they believe.

And so they will blindly accept anything their professor says, the expert in the room, as objective truth, even when it is not. and it has a fundamentally terrifying implication and reality on the next generation of culture. But to give some people some hope, even in the midst of all of the spiritual darkness that's being waged by these administrations, there's a perfect example of how young people are fighting back. Just a few weeks ago, Notre Dame announced

that they were going to be appointing a rabidly pro-abortion professor to a position of senior leadership on campus. There's a lot of nuance with all of this. But it was very controversial and instantaneously received a lot of backlash from priests, all over the country who went to Notre Dame, lots of alumni, and the students in particular who were outraged about this idea, the undergraduate students banded together

and had a massive walkout protest on Notre Dame's campus, and the school ended up rescinding the decision. So I love pointing this out as a perfect example of what happens when young people who are courageously running after truth, both from a secular and religious perspective, can really effectuate change in our own communities. And Notre Dame responded perfectly to all of that. to their credit. That's amazingly great news. That is so wonderful. Well, I mean, I guess that's kind of the

theme, right, is that something has happened recently where young people are turning toward God. You know, I think one of the greatest things that the great Charlie Kirk ever did was to tell people, get married, have kids. It's as countercultural and radical an idea. It's the antithesis of what the secular elites have been pushing since forever, since. I was a kid, basically, that they're pushing that women, if you want to be empowered, don't get married, that's patriarchal. And you'll be, you know, like this nonsense has been shoved at us throughout the media in every film and TV program and every talking head.

That is changing. You're one of the voices that's speaking out against it. Talk about this idea of, you know, this cultural change that women, well, women are still being conditioned to hate motherhood, which is insane. sane. But talk about that. We sure are. And I think for most people who are my parents or grandparents age, they see these headlines or influencer videos or TV shows condemning motherhood as this horrifying evil practice. And they have no idea how we got here and why it is happening right now. But in reality, this is the result of decades-long programming that was very intentionally

put in place by the powers that be trying to change culture from the inside out. Most people don't know that this happened, and I learned about it for the first time a few years ago at a Prager You fundraiser. But if you Google this, you can find it for yourself that 60 years ago, the American Communist Party, the political party, actually read into the congressional record, into open public government record, their goals to take over and destroy Western society in the United States. And these are very painfully obvious things that have now come to fruition 60 years later, things like destroying the education system to promote Marxism, fomenting student protests around the country, but also some things that may surprise you when it comes to normalizing

collectivism, Marxism, and destroying the units that build up the foundation of the West, destroying the family, making it easier for people to get divorced, to stop promoting motherhood and marriage, to discredit the Bible as an outdated piece of literature that doesn't have any sort of relevance to modern society, certainly to take over the church as a vehicle for Marxism. But what these communist activists saw 60 years ago was family and faith as the cornerstone of Western civilization. And if they could break those ideas, then they could effectively take over and destroy the United States from the inside out. That is exactly what has been the driving factor, those seeds planted along the way, for what we now see as these radically crazy attacks

on the family, including people just straight up calling to abolish the idea of the family in culture. A very famous British feminist author literally wrote a manifesto called Abolish the Family a few years ago from the lens of feminism. And now just in the last few weeks, you've seen headlines come out across mainstream media about women who regret having children and they wish they could go back and not have their children. New York Magazine's story about this that interviewed several people this last week, featured a 27-year-old mom of a one-year-old. very similar to me at 28 years old of a mom of a one year old. And she's abandoning her family one year in saying that this is the best thing for her because she gets to put her life first again. This malignant narcissism is the only thing that is presented as virtuous to young women, while simultaneously you are being told, if you want anything else, you are a bad person.

The Los Angeles Times last November ran a headline. It is almost shameful to want to have children. Like that is insane, genuinely, but where we are at in culture. And so I think for most people, they think, wow, getting married and having a baby, that's radically countercultural, that's activism. That's so punk rock for our society today. Who knew? Yes, it is. And it is what it's going to take for this next generation to save culture.

But as a mom myself this last year, and I'm celebrating my second anniversary of my marriage in June, it has been so profoundly humbling to see this generation. put themselves out there, have the courage to really fall in love, to delete our dating apps, to quit our birth control pills, to welcome new life into the world, because these are the things ultimately that outlast anyone who's sitting in the Oval Office or some crazy media headline or who your favorite influencer is on social media. It's this timeless mechanism of the family to transform society that ultimately is going to save our country. And Charlie understood that better than anybody. Well, I mean, again, it's so countercultural. It's so radical. It's hilarious.

to me that he's saying to young people, young men, you know, uh, get a job. You know, it's kind of, it's almost funny, right? Like, get a job, get a haircut, you know, like, yeah, try to try to, try to be worthy of some wonderful woman and then pray that God will lead you to the woman that you're going to spend the rest of your life with. This is the greatest thing imaginable because this used to be basic, basically until I came into the world in the 60s, right? This was normative. Everybody's like, what are you going to do? Well, you know, I know it's kind of like saying, what are you going to do tonight? You didn't mention like, I'm going to eat dinner because, well, of course, I'm going to eat dinner, but what else are you going to do? When people say, what are you going to do with your life?

You're like, well, obviously, I'm going to try to get married and raise a family. Look, I'm not going to mention that because that's what everybody does, what every normal person would want to do. That went away in the 60s and there was this absolute push everywhere to undermine the family. And it's been very, very effective. And, you know, we've been talking about that. that. I was just thinking about this yesterday. My wife and I spent a lot of time in Connecticut where I grew up in the house where I grew up. My mom is in her 90s now. And I realized there used to be a lot of kids in this neighborhood. And anytime you see any kids or any family, something brightens, it gives you hope. It does something. There's something about family.

And you Catholics get this way better than the evangelicals. But that, but the, image of the family, the Imago Day of family. There's something about it that speaks of other things. It speaks of hope. It speaks of future. It speaks of I need to put myself second because I care about my kids. It speaks about self-sacrifice just by dint of existing. So when you see kids, something is projected. And so we've had a whole culture that's been talking about, you know, these preposterous ideas that like you don't want to have kids and so and so forth. And honestly, Isabel, the worst thing really is that it lies to women. It's denying women the greatest joy they could ever have. And now you've experienced that yourself. But you know, listen, I'm old enough to, I spent a lot of

time with the women in their 40s and 50s who bought that lie. And it hurts me, you know, as someone who loves these people that they bought that lie long enough and that they don't get, they don't have that. And that's the culture's not talking about that. Oprah was never talking about that demographic or talking about the demographic of the women who had an abortion and it, how it hurt them for decades and decades. It wasn't the greatest thing they ever did. Those lies have been projected into the culture and it's only because of, you know, folks like you out there that were getting the other side of this story. You know, I think the reframing around this is so important that you just mentioned that it is the greatest joy you will ever experience in your

life. If people were presenting motherhood that way to an entire generation, of course it would be an unspoken again. Everybody wants to feel joyful and have purpose and meaning, especially when we are in this crisis of identity. We are dealing with so many mental health conditions in our generation to have a North Star and a central compass that is pointing your direction every day, even if, and maybe because of, involves some level of self-sacrifice. That is hugely important when we are searching for meaning and purpose every day. Someone put it to me really beautifully the other day that to experience pregnancy and childbirth and to raise a baby, men do not have the invitation to do. Women have a unique invitation to do all these things, but it is the only time in the entire human experience that you

are invited into what God does every day with the creation of new life to actually create something, not just art or some political speech or a contribution to your job, but to create from scratch human life. That is God's job that he so lovingly invites us into because he wants us to experience the majesty and the joy that comes out of that. And that was incredibly humbling for me to think about, but certainly for those who might be listening to this that have never gotten to experience that up to this point, it is so worth every second, every backache, every middle of the night wake up to run to the bathroom, every sleepless night with your baby at 3 a.m. That is a central compass that has forever changed my life and forever will. And I love sharing the more.

positive aspect of all of this with our generation because that reframe really can, I think, shape our generation's perspective of parenthood while everybody is screaming at us that it is so miserable and horrible all the time. And the mainstream media doesn't report on this. I mean, it kind of reminds me of I speak all over the country and wherever I go, I bump into, for example, homeschooled kids. They are the brightest, most normal, grounded, you know, and I thought to myself, there's an army of them, most of whom will get married young, will have big families.

The mainstream media does not acknowledge their existence is frankly probably unaware of the existence of this army of normal, healthy, forward-looking, happy people. And I really think, I mean, just meeting them gives me huge hope for the future because they're going to run for Congress. they're going to be everywhere and it's happening.

But again, the secular elites, they're unaware. As far as they're concerned, that demographic doesn't exist. You don't exist. They can't handle it. No, they can't. And I actually think it's not even so much a malignant perspective on this or some sort of malicious intent. I actually think people are just completely unaware that that type of culture is out there. Living in Washington, D.C. right now, I make a big point of trying to bring my baby pretty much everywhere.

We go to museums. We go right on the train. We go to the airport all the time. We're just constantly in restaurants and at the White House and doing all these really fun things. And it is always shocking to people that I have a baby everywhere. In the best way, people light up and they say, a baby. No, actually, to the contrary, they're excited about this. People go, a baby, a baby, oh my gosh, your baby's so cute.

I'm so excited to see a baby. I haven't seen a baby in forever. And I've now realized that there is an intentional lack, for lack of a better term, there's a lack of baby fever in society because nobody is seeing. kids out and about at restaurants, on airplanes. That's a contentious debate happening on X this morning. If babies even belong on planes, of course they do on the train and the workplace. And so seeing this revival of family led by mostly these homeschooling families that do bring their kids out and about to work to museums out on public transportation in the middle of the day,

I think it's causing people to rethink the order of priorities in their life again, regardless of where you fall in the political spectrum or what your zip code happens to be, to realize that, Of course, that should be the driving factor behind everything you do, even if it means your job might have to sacrifice a little bit because of that. Unbelievable. Isabel Brown? Is that your real name? It sure is. Yes, indeed. I knew it was.

It's just such a happy name. You know, if you weren't Isabel Brown, I would want to name you, Isabel Brown. But I don't have to do that because you already got that name. It's a happy name. You've given me not just a lot to think about, but you give me joy, Isabelle. I'm not blown smoke. Just glad to know you're out there. God bless you to be continued.

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Who believes that? Actually, it's true. His name is Scott Singer. Scott Singer, welcome with this program. Thank you so much, I'm having me, Eric. I want to talk to you about this initiative. You're the new chair of America First Policy Institute's mayor's council. What is that? What are you doing?

Sure. We started this last July, and we've already grown to more than 50 mayors nationwide who are trying to advance the America First Agenda in our cities. It's a contrast to a lot of the larger cities where you're seeing cities overrun by crime, by fighting with the federal government over immigration. Instead, we're focused on common sense solutions that are going to advance in America First agenda. And very pleased with how just starting in July, we're already at 50-plus mayors and working our way to 100. We've coordinated with the White House and tried to try to.

bring better policy ideas to root on Main Street. Sounds like a great idea to me. Of course, you're in Florida, which, you know, you've got the unfair advantage of Mayor Ron DeSantis. And I just heard Mayor DeSantis, I keep saying, forgive me, governor, ladies and gentlemen, I knew that Ron DeSantis was the governor. But he is such a great governor. That has to inspire you as a mayor. Well, yes, we've seen tremendous gains at all levels.

of government in Florida. I'm proud to be mayor of the second largest city in Palm Beach County, home of President Trump. But what we've seen under Governor DeSantis and the president are just common sense solutions. President Trump has secured the border, brought tax relief. Governor DeSantis has had a strong stance against immigration that mirrors that. We've had great tax policy here in Florida. We've welcomed more businesses and high-net-worth individuals who've come to Florida because they're fleeing high-text jurisdictions. And we've seen this in Bocca Raton, and we're seeing this in other cities. There's a growing divide between cities and states that govern blue and govern red,

and people are voting with their feet and their pocketbooks. There was an article in the New York Post that you, as the head of this initiative, are wooing New York City capitalists to try to get them to go to Florida. Obviously, with Mayor Mamdani, nobody knows what the future holds for New York. I mean, I thought things were bad under Eric Adams. and under Mayor de Blasio, you know, I'm a lifelong New Yorker. I'm astonished that somebody who's like about 14 years old, who's an outspoken communist Jew hater,

although he phrases it more delicately, could have been elected mayor. I don't doubt that there was a lot of fraud in the election, but what do you see happening with him? I see bad things happening for New York, which gives other cities like Boca Raton and other states' opportunities. I mean, it's ludicrous when you have a mayor come in with all these promises and think that you're not going to drive away capital. A 9.5% proposed

increase in property taxes affects everyone from businesses to property owners to renters, and it's not sustainable. And the latest proposals last week about an enhanced wealth tax are just going to fall flat. It's shameful that a city, even with a snowstorm, has to rely on resident volunteers to come forward to go shovel snow, you know, even if they're getting paid. And the irony of that is that you needed two forms of ID and a printed photograph, and you don't need that to vote. I think more and more people are going to be seeing why that sort of policy, from the economic policy to the stance on public safety, is not workable. And that's what other cities are providing.

And frankly, now I'm running for U.S. Congress because I want to ensure that we're going to have that same sensible policy at our federal level, what President Trump has done. Again, on securing the border, strong on defense, relief for businesses, and tax reform. Well, one thing that I have to say, and I know we don't have a lot of time today, but communism can be made to work for a short period of time if the people cannot escape. So in the Soviet Union, you know, they were able to beat that dead horse for decades and decades because they wouldn't let the people leave. But when the people can leave, you have effectively a free market, which goes to war with these ridiculous ideas of communism. And people simply leave. So in a place like New York or California, people can say, you know what, I don't like this.

I'm out. And they leave. And that, of course, is exactly what is going to happen. And folks are going to want to flee to places like Boko Raton and other cities in Florida. How do you suppose somebody like Mayor Mamdani doesn't get that? that we're not, this is not North Korea. People can leave. I think we have decades of indoctrination at some of our educational, many of our educational institutions, and this increasing influence of the far left in transforming what was our

parents' Democratic Party into something that's unrecognizable for most Americans. That's why I'm seeing more and more people locally and in the state turning from Democratic to Republican. We gained 1.7 million Republican voters since 2018, which is a tremendous increase. the people fleeing New York and other jurisdictions, they're not only bringing businesses here, they're voting more conservatively. And in South Florida, we understand communism doesn't work. We have so many people who fled brutal dictatorships, Cuba, Venezuela, and what President Trump is doing to actually bring them to call them accountable, hold them accountable, and perhaps bring relief to tyrannical regimes to the people who live there, I think is remarkable. And I think people are going to be standing up in November voting that way,

understanding that the President Trump is on the right track there. Well, Scott Singer, thank you for being my guest. I'm glad you're the mayor of Boca Raton. I'm glad you're the new chair of America First Policy Institute's mayor's council. Great things are happening in this country. If we had more time, I'd like to talk to you about your appearance on Jeopardy. I'm a fan of trivia. And we'll do that another time.

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