The Eric Metaxas Show - #99 - Mike Lindell

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

Today On The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric talks with Mike Lindell about the lawfare campaign against MyPillow, the pressure campaign to destroy his company, the fraud scandal rocking Minnesota, and why he believes the state can still be flipped. They also discuss Tim Walz, Amy Klobuchar, election integrity, immigration, and why Lindell says this governor’s race could help change the course of the country. Subscribe for clips from The Eric Metaxas Show to hear politics and culture from a Christian perspective.

Folks, if you know me, you know that one of my favorite people is Mike Lindell. I love Mike Lindell. And every now and again, he comes on this program and gives us an update on his crazy, beautiful patriotic life. Today's one of those days. Mike Lindell, welcome back. Hey, thank for having me on, Eric. Mike, first of all, I don't know where to start, as usual. Number one, you're running for governor.

Okay, we're going to talk about that. Number two, you just said to me, you've been, you know, the most attacked man in the country in many ways because of your bold patriotic stand. And something just happened at my pillow. Tell me, you were just telling me off the air. And I thought, let's cover that first because I want to talk to you about everything. Yeah. Well, I'll take them back a little bit, everybody. You know, my pillow was obviously attacked by lawfare back in January of 21.

And then after two years of fighting machine companies, and then it was almost like a handoff of a baton for the United States government in a thing called Arctic Frost, Operation Arctic Frost, which everybody kind of knows about. They attack senators of people that had our president's back, but also one company, and that company was my pillow. We had to turn all this in. We were debanked four times. Now, and actually five, if you count, my charity. And we were the most attack company in history from the merchant server to American Express, Walmart.

It seemed like they were all in cahoots. It really does. And we think they might be, they reached out to our vendors to tell our vendors, especially our overseas, to not do business with my pillow, or they're going to be debaic. This was our own DOJ, our own FBI,

and our own IRS. Remember when my phone got taken to Hardee's, that was part of Arctic Frost. So we got all this from the government. There was 92,000 pages that wasn't public on myself and my bill, 2.3 million total. So, I mean, this was an all-out attack of biblical proportion. So I would shut up and quit talking about our elections, right?

But I didn't shut up. And man, they shut you up. You haven't been on a radio program since. You haven't done any podcasts. They got to you, Mike. They got to you. You had your price. And here it is.

No, it's just like what they did to you, honestly, I think I've said this before. If you're an American who is not angry about this kind of stuff, you're definitely part of the problem. If this stuff, if this kind of stuff doesn't make you angry. When I think about what the Biden administration did to you, whatever, the left despise you. But what my takeaway is, if you want to know how bad things are, and this is why folks, you've just got to be activated politically, imagine in the last election, Mike Pence and

George W. Bush did not endorse President Trump. In other words, for whatever reason, they were too proud, too peevish, whatever it was, to say, we cannot have Kamala Harris as president. they didn't care. They're part of the problem. When I hear about the level of wickedness, a raid against you, Mike Lindell, against the president,

and that you have Mike Pence, I just single them out because he was a vice president of the United States, and you have George W. Bush, two-time president, GOP president, did not endorse President Trump.

In other words, they don't care about any of this evil. Eric, it's like a uniparty that's out there. I've been blocked. in the last five years, more by Republicans, believe or not, states like Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, South Dakota. You wouldn't even, I can tell stories all day long, but I'm going to bring you up to date on what's happening right now, which I believe Arctic Frost's still going on. You guys, they bought a company bought our My Pillow building about a year, a little over a year and a

half ago, and at the last minute, they would not renew our lease. And there's nobody coming into the building. This is a 400,000 square foot building. We had to make a move in eight weeks. Do the impossible. My employees, we all built the, of course, they moved and we've expanded so many times that they're very good at what they do. But we, you know, we had to get this done to be out by the end of March, and we pulled it off. But here's one thing. This is your, you're, you're, audience to love this. We have about three semi-loads left a product that we didn't put in, that we have to discontinue forever because they were originally earmarked for the box stores.

One of them being our slippers, everybody, our famous, my slippers, 2998 is up here. Excuse me, so the wickedness of the left, we're trying to turn into a good thing for the people who listen to this show. Folks, this is not like some kind of a joke. No. Everything Mike is saying is true. They've done this to hurt him, but you've done this before, Mike, where they attack you and you go, okay, I have to get rid of this stuff. Yeah.

We'll go to the people that love me and we'll offer them some insane deal. Right to the people out there. Okay. So what you're talking about right now, I didn't know we were going to go. I want to talk to you more about running for governor and all the stuff that's going on, but you're referring now to what you're referring now to what you, just sent me, which is an exclusive special as a result of what you just said, what they just did to you by shutting down this 400,000. We don't want to bring them right into our shipping and ship them right to you guys out there. We have a lot of things.

We have kitchen towelsets we're never carrying again. This stuff, once they're gone, they're gone for good. But the biggest thing, you've got Mother's Day coming up with these slippers, 2998, originally 149. 98. That's almost our cost. And, and, uh, what we've got to, uh, we, you know, it's, it's giving back. I'll tell you, we wouldn't be here by the grace of God, the most attack company ever. And with everybody helping us out and, um, with, um, okay. So specifically, uh, folks, before we kind of carry on here with the news, you're talking about if people use my promo code Eric. Yes. Uh, right now. Is it just the one deal, the original my slippers for 2998? No, no, you got the slippers. You guys.

for 2998. You got the My Towel sets, are your sandals, 2998, we're closing them out. My towels, there's comforters, there's a couch pillows. There's over 100 products. Some of them we have very little left,

but we're clearing them out with these emptying, these three semi-trucks full. And so you guys, you go there, use that promo- Maybe somebody has three empty semi-trucks and they want to furnish those semi-trucks. You've got exactly the right amount of stuff.

You're just going to transfer it right to their semis. So folks, whatever you're looking for, and that, you know, this sounds like a made up thing. This is true, right? So what you just said, Mike, about they tried to harm you. They tried to say, how can we screw Mike Lindell? Let's buy a building that he has all this stuff. And then at the last minute, we'll pull the rug out. And then he's stuck and it'll hurt him.

So that's exactly what happened. But the fact is that you're saying, because you have the ability to come on shows like this, we don't need to like pay to store this stuff. We can go right to our shipping facility and ship it to you at home and everybody saves money. So obviously the code is Eric, but Mike, I have said this so many times. And again, people always think I'm joking. When you, it's about five or six years ago when we did our Christmas special, which people can still find online. And you came on there.

And you explained what everybody, I think in America kind of was wondering about this, about towels. why don't towels work the way they used to, which is the weirdest, stupidest question because you think there's nothing more basic than the job. What is the job of a towel? And you explained the whole story how you kind of got to the bottom of it. So towels, they feel great in the story. Then you get them home and they kind of don't do their job. They squeegee the water. They don't absorb the water.

And so you created my pillow towels. That actually absorb. And what you refer into it. What you refer into, Eric, is you guys, this. was from 2006. It was a GATT program. They did with other countries. They let everybody, everything be imported here with towels from India, China, and pack this now. And when it became so competitive in the stores that they added stuff to ours towels, they added fabric softens and oils, and all these things. So they felt almost like pre-snotted, like those one Kleenex used to buy

or those tissues, you know. I mean, they had this softness to them, but almost like a slimy. You got home and they didn't dry you. A slimy softness. It is really creepy. And every single day, Mike, when I use my, my pillow towel, I think of you and I think son of a gun, Mike Lindell has done it. He has given us back towels that actually do their job. It sounds so crazy to bring something like this up because there's nothing, there's nothing less complicated than what a towel is supposed to do. But the fact is that when I use other towels, Just the other day, you know, I reached a linen closet and I got some expensive towel that we got 10 years ago. And it doesn't work. Right.

And I just said, here we go again. Another of one of these beautiful. What a beautiful looking towel. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. They don't absorb. I did my commercial. I said, look, you could light a swimming pool with these things.

Okay. And they're on sale, you guys, as long as 39. 98, a six pack. So check those. out to with that promo code Eric. So we've got everything. And you guys, and don't forget everybody, our made-in-the-USA mattresses and mattress-hoppers,

they're on sale and they ship free right to your front door. That's what keeps my employees going to. And also, the Made in America, our world-famous My Pillow, the standard 1498 promo code Eric. And I want to say some there. Eric, we recently, we're up to 84 million My Pillow. sold in spite of being the most attack company in history. That's more burgers than McDonald's.

Okay, folks, so here's the headline. We're going to go to a break. We'll be right back. But the headline, please, you will also support this program. Use the code Eric, promo code Eric. But there's just tons of stuff right now. Go to Mypillar.com. Hey there, folks.

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But wait, there's more. To make the mega sale even more special when you order right now, your order's going to ship absolutely free. Welcome back, folks. I am talking to Mike Lindell. Remember Mike Lindell? Remember he was running for governor?

Well, he's running for governor right now. Mike, I want to talk to you about that. We just talked about your store and how you've been attacked and how there's this big sale you're doing. You explained in the last segment why, so we don't go into that. But folks, please, please.

Please support Mike and his campaign for governor by going to mypillow.com. Please support this program by using the promo code Eric. There's such great stuff there. The towels are the greatest, but it's all great. But Mike, the fact that you are actually running for governor in Minnesota, help us. Because, you know, most people who live in this program don't live in Minnesota. We're trying to understand what's going on in Minnesota. What is your sense of what is possible as you're running for governor?

I mean, because most of us think of it as a as a loony blue woke state. Right. Is it even possible for somebody like Mike Lindell to win? What is going on? Well, it is. And there's a lot of reasons, you guys, that I would have said if you maybe went back five, six years, I would have said probably not. But now with all the things that have happened, the biggest blessing Minnesota has right now,

which, by the way, we've been blue since 1972 in the presidential races. So, and, but with the biggest blessing we have is what? The fraud. You guys, you know, Eric, I always look at the, God uses all things for good for those who believe. This fraud has opened up the door for so many things where now we can say things like, hey, let's ban Sharia law. And you're not a racist by saying that. We have the Minnesota I have said for years now with a Trojan horse for Surreal law. I've had to deal with it. Businesses of Minnesota have had to deal with this. Now things are all changing. And one of the things, when we running for governor, I'm also getting kind of, I would say, blocked by, you've got to get the GOP endorsement.

Well, in Minnesota, the media, the media doesn't want Mike Lindell. So what do they do? They go silent on me. They don't even attack me. This is how I used to get the word out. Come on, attack me so I can tell people, and I'm running for governor. You know, the rest of the country knows I'm running, but Minnesota, those, the horrible stuff, Star and Tribune and our local media, they don't. So about four weeks ago, everybody, I switched. And what I did is I'm going to do this kind of what I did for five years, helping the president with his rallies. I'm going to do rallies. And I start them rallies and town halls all over Minnesota. We separated into 67 Senate districts. And I'm setting up teams all over, just like I did for

Cosm America, for the elections, where I had 300,000 people strong. And I'm doing a media Blitz, I'm going to have, you ready, the second biggest campaign in history. By it's second, because when I tell the president, sir, I'm going to have the second biggest campaign in history. You know, I don't think you can get bigger than what he did. But, you know, I'm going to sure go for that. Well, it's certainly not because it's, you know, and you're only running for governor. Right, right.

What do you mean by biggest when you say biggest campaign? What is that? In Minnesota, I'm going to have 26,000 signs. We have that plan. We have, like I say, there's 67 Senate districts. I've already probably done 12 events to do an event in every single district and rallies and town halls. There are people are coming from everywhere. And when I just did one last week.

And I invited people on the left that I knew. And I was able to tell them in two hours or an hour to two hours, what I'm going to do to change all this to give people hope. And they all flipped. They all flipped. I'm not kidding. They said, we're going to vote for you, Mike, after they heard this. And they came, they were not voting for me. They said, you know, what do you know about being a governor and all these different things?

Well, I've spent the last year with solutions to each problem that we face in Minnesota. So, wait, so who is governor today? Right now it is Tim Walts. Everybody knows him very well. No, but I mean, but Tim Walts, I mean, I thought I knew that, but he has vanished. Yeah, yeah. What is going on right now? He's going to be charged.

He's probably going to be charged with the fraud, and he is now not running, and it's Amy Klobuchar, everybody. But let me tell you, so like Amy Klobuchar, which has been around for almost two decades now as our senator in Minnesota. But here's two,

hey, think of these ads, Eric. I'm going to put an ad up. If you've seen this yourself, Amy Klobuchar and Mike Lindell come to a historical agreement. Well, you're going to click on that, right? Yeah. You're going to open it up and it's going to say, Amy and Mike agreed in 2018 and 19 to go to paper ballots hand counting.

Amy was the biggest voice in the country to do that, to get rid of the machines and go to paper ballots, hand county. And then what did Mike do since then? And what did Amy do? Mike Lindell spent $80 million fighting fraud for five years, okay, the election fraud. What did Amy do? Amy just ignored that. And she went to the federal government and got $30 billion to bring into Minnesota for these Medicaid, Medicare programs and only to be stalled by Somali and fraud.

So it wasn't a very good story. The headline, ladies and gentlemen, is there's nothing new under the sun. We'll be right back, Dr. Michael Lindell. Hi, everyone. If you were injured in an accident, listen up. We have legal professionals standing by to answer your questions. You can find out if you have a case. how much it's potentially worth.

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What you just said, the fraud, I mean, any fraud is despicable. And folks, if you, don't understand it's your money, it's your parents' money, it's your kids' money, being stolen by corrupt people, by thieves, by thieves and robbers taking your money and using it for their nefarious purposes. This is a reality. And if you're not part of trying to fix it, you're part of the problem. We have to elect people like Mike Lindell who understand this is wicked. This is not just that, oh, they disagree with us politically. They are corrupt. They're stealing your

money. So Mike, the fraud in Minnesota, that's gotten the headlines. We know there's tremendous fraud in blue states all over and probably read as well, all over the country. But do you think that Tim Walz will be forced to pay a price for this? I mean, I guess he's already been forced to pay a price because he's not running for governor and he seems to have some sense that he's in big trouble. But, you know,

Ilhan Omar, all of these figures we know they're corrupt, but will they pay a price? I don't know. You got Keith Ellis and our Attorney General. I hope they do. I pray they do. But for me, I mean, that's someone else that's going to go prosecute all them, and I hope they're doing their job right now to do that.

I want to, as governor, let's solve the big picture. And I can solve, I'll tell you one thing right now, that the illegals, that's one that I brought to Minnesota, and I can tell this should be done. were nationwide. You know, when they came in, when you just had the two tragedies with ICE in Minnesota,

and then they pulled out, they go, oh, if you protests, you can get your way and get rid of ice. Well, if you hadn't pulled out, they were going to use these protests to bury the fraud for all the way through the election.

And by the way, Minneapolis has the strictest protest laws in the nation, but they're never enforced everybody. But here I'm going to tell you something that will solve the illegal problem. In Minnesota, illegals, we have about 1,300 in our prisons.

Those are the rapist murders. And we house them for $85,000 a year, which is $110 million, just in Minnesota. Now you call up by, say, here, come and get these, get them back to their own nation to finish their sentence. Once and for all, they're gone. Now you have another segment of the illegals. Most illegals will commit a crime within 90 days. It's usually a misdemeanor or gross misdemeanor, stealing something. or driving.

So now you have them in the county jails, which I know a little bit about them back in the day. You have them in the county jails, and then you sweep them and arrest them and get rid of them. Now you're left with one segment of the illegals, and this is where you have to go after the employers that are, and prosecute them, put them in jail for 90 days,

the owners, the managers, the, of these businesses that are paying these illegals cash. They're hurting, all of us for not paying taxes, the employers, they're hurting other businesses that are doing it right, and they're underpaying the illegals anyway. Here's cash you can't tell us. Eric, this is the biggest problem we face because no illegals would come here if they didn't have the opportunity

to be paid illegally by employers that are, and they're not doing it everybody to be, you know, a bleeding heart label going, oh, we got to help these illegals. No, they're doing it for their own agreed to stick money in their pocket with other businesses trying to do it right. If you do that, the illegal short themselves because they get here, they get here and now they have to steal it. They have to do something illegal and they're going to get caught and then you'd get rid of them. You get them out of it. Okay.

So anybody listening or anybody who knows you knows, you understand this stuff and you actually do things about this. You don't just talk. You understand it and you actually do things about it. So I don't know who in America wouldn't want you to be governor and more than governor because you actually care about this, Mike. And so I want to say again to my audience, one thing you can do. And again, you know, if you know I'm not just saying this, right, because, you know, we want to sell towels. This is what you can do to help.

You can go to mypillow.com. You can buy anything there. Please use the code, Eric. but this is not why I'm having you on Mike, but I just actually, you know, there's so many people in America whose heart is in the right place and they say, what can I do?

And so I thought, well, at least they can help you and your campaign, this program, by going to MyPillow.com or MyStore.com and use the code, Eric, because so many Americans are behind you. So many Americans are behind you. And I think that it's refreshing to hear you talk about this stuff that you know about this stuff. And I think maybe the headline here,

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Well, here's what? Right now in May, the GOP is going to give their endorsement. I'm not honoring that endorsement because they're trying to get me to. And when we did a poll just a month ago, I'm the favorite with the Republicans. And I said it. They keep asking me, well, Mike, why won't you honor that? Because the primary is in August. And I said, just like that movie, Arm again, when they asked Bruce Willis,

why are you going to help to do this? And he said, because quite frankly, I don't trust anyone else to do it right. And that's the way I'm at right now. I have all the... I'm not tracking. Okay. They want, if you don't, in Minnesota, the GLP endorsement is in May. And if there are all these candidates running and they want whoever they endorse with their 2400 delegates, they want all the other can say, oh, yes, we'll go with him and we won't even run in the primary.

So what you're saying is you don't trust them in May to endorse you. Is that right? No, no, no. I would, I won't get them. I hope I get their endorsement. I don't trust anyone that if they got the, someone got the endorsement beside me, I want the people to decide in August.

I want the people out there. Like when I ran for R&C chair, remember that? Yeah. I doubled Harmeet and Ron of the night before, but then the politicians didn't pick me. The people wanted me. Okay. So this is, and then they even said,

well, Mike, if you lose the primary, of course, if I lose the primary, I'm going to give everyone, I'll give the other candidates, even all my plans that will solve all the problems we have, whether it be the farmers, the teachers, and to win the election. One of the things, Eric, in Minnesota, 250,000 people voted for Donald Trump in 2020 that didn't even bother to get out in 2022.

I'm going to, when I'm doing all these rallies and events, I'm going to, if I have to go door to door myself and tell them this is the most critical midterm election in history, nationwide, not just Minnesota. We have to win. If we lose in Minnesota now, we're going to have a mass exodus of people, people, businesses. We have the highest corporate tax in the nation, highest income tax, third in regulations. It just goes on and on. And so I'm not, I can't trust the same input.

And to me, will end up being the same output. I have to trust what I know the pathway to victory. And I know that it's going to take a lot of marketing and a lot of money. I'm the only one that can raise a lot of money, which I have been nationally, to bring into Minnesota, because everyone knows this is critical. If we can get Minnesota in the public eye, we get one shot at this because of the fraud and stuff and all these corrupt politicians, it's, you're got, I can get a lot of people from middle left and a lot of people over here to get out and vote. Let's not forget, I spent a lot of time in Minneapolis and St. Paul in the streets. And when I came out of that, I put millions of dollars into helping people that. homeless and in addiction and all this.

So those people haven't forgot, Eric, and we're going to get them out to vote. And everything I'm going to do to flip these, I'm going to be flipping Democrats because they've had it. They've had it downtown with the, with the, our Somalian population that sold all their money, 80% of them still on these. Now, why do you think, why would, why would leftist lunatics like Tim Walz or Ellison, the AG in Minnesota? why would they be looking the other way with this kind of fraud?

What's in it for them? I never understand why they wouldn't care about fraud. Well, look at Elon Omar. We still don't know how her net worth went from, I believe it was either negative $65,000 or plus $65,000. I can't remember, to $36 million in four years. I know why mine went from $100 million down to minus 10. I know why that happened.

Everybody knows what I did. But here's Elon Omar. How do you go off $36 million? dollars. I mean, this is, and we don't know with Keith Ellison, and you either have to be, especially with Tim Wolfe, that at very least, you're the most, if you're not complacent and in on it, you've got to be the worst governing history to turn the other way and say, I don't see nothing, I see nothing, you know.

Well, Ilhan Omar, I mean, look, these are wicked people, but what amazes me is how they're able to fool voters or how many people don't vote and they are destroying the nation. Folks, they're destroying the nation and they've been getting away with it. And I think that there's hope now that they won't get away with it. But I still don't understand how they could have gotten away with it to this point. I can explain that very easily, you guys. They have all the media. If we go back five years, there wasn't much.

of a chance. On January 7th and 8th of 2021, 1.2 million Americans were deplatharm a deep platform of Suckabuckabuck's Facebook, Jack Dorsey's Crook and Twitter, YouTube, Vimeo. If you talked about Jesus, if you talked against the vaccine, or you talked against the election, you were all put in one bucket. Now, what's happened since then? Our voice never went out, everybody. And now we have all these podcasts, including your own, Eric, podcasts everywhere. We have getter, gab, true social, vocal, Elon Musk, X. Even Zuckerbuck's Facebook isn't covering things up anymore. He's still terrible, but at least he's not covering up false information.

So our voice is the biggest it's ever been. And now when the mainstream media has a harder time covering up things, and they can ignore things, but the word gets up. I'll give me a good example. Everybody knows the election stuff that came out that came out of Georgia, and everyone knows about that. All the stuff that I had for five years, all this stuff's coming out when you talk about election.

And they can't hold it down. What happened, Eric, is we listen very closely. We broke through the biggest cover-up of the biggest crime in history, which is the blessing of the 2020 election. We broke through that. No, all the media, we have broke. through our voices out to now we broke through now we have to um call everything out this is a very important one of the most important years in history because we we gives us one opportunity to to um

to get the um to get our elections secure to get our everybody changed to this new party of common you know did you hear what happened in texas with uh uh colonel allen west uh i i guess he's somebody I've always thought of as a hero, but I guess he decided not to go with the paper ballots or something. I could never. Yeah, that was, I think that was Dallas County. That was a very big disappointment. And we don't, this is you guys, we just keep moving forward everywhere. I'm just telling you.

And they say, well, Mike, you know, this election, there's still machines and stuff. You guys, we have, I'm telling you right now, we're going to have the most secure elections based on the footprint we have right now. now that we're going to do every power in every state and everywhere to get the most secure. Now, Eric, what I believe is, that's why this Save America Act is so important. You got, as we have it squished down, ways they can steal, ways they can manipulate, the deviations are going to show up like, look at that deviations. And because our voices are bigger, we're going to be able to call it out. It might take this election to be able to call it out.

if they, you know, when they do go to steal, because they have to. This is critical that they're trying. One question that I was asking days after the stolen 2020 election, I want to know, and I want to know if you have a guess, who was coordinating this? Who said to those six states, stop counting in the middle of the night, and then they're going to reemerge and we're going to have all the votes we need. Right. Who was behind this?

Do we know who was behind this? Eric, that's one at the devil. quite frankly the devil I mean I don't know look we know that no no no I already know Eric I have been trying to say to get to who is the one that ordered the code red

who's the one that really ordered it I you know because you had a mix you had the CCP the uniparty the deep state and the globalist you can say we know that everybody was aligned but my question is who was coordinating that that's the part we don't know

or I don't know anyway I can't pin it down because I'm going how horizontal does this go the evil? It goes huge horizontal. But I'm going, how does it go all the way up? And who's the person that said, all right, everybody stop counting? That's the point. It's like it's really fascinating.

It is fascinating. But we don't know the answer to that. No, it seems so obvious that somebody did it. We know, we, you know, it seems pretty clear. But we don't know who and we don't know. I mean, look, this is dark stuff. Folks, ladies and gentlemen, this is dark, wicked, wicked stuff. We're getting to the bottom of a lot of it.

I want to say, again, to my audience, folks, we need your help. We need your help in every way. Please share this program. Please share the programs that we do here. Please go to mypillow.com. Use the code, Eric, buy stuff you don't need. Do your Christmas shopping. Mother's Day, those slippers, you guys, once they're gone,

gone 2998, 2998, the best slippers in history. Now, this is, this is, and this has been proven by historical experts. All the academics agree, these are the best slippers in history. Best there? Not just in American history, in the history of slippery. Yeah, made with patented impact show. It's like walking on something.

You never, it's amazing. They're amazing. I mean, if, if the Troops in Valley Forge had had these slippers, we would have wrapped it up in 178. in the spring. We wouldn't have needed Baron von Steuben. If only we'd had these slippers, now we have the slippers. So folks, please go to mypillow.com. Please use the code, Eric. You will be helping this program. We need the help, but you will be helping Mike Lindell, who's an American hero. Mike, we are so grateful for you. I am so thrilled you're running for governor. I know you're busy.

I know you got to go. God bless you, my friend. Thanks for all you do. And I want to say, everybody, if you want to see where the events are to help out, it's Mikelindelgov.com. I want to get the address up. Mikelindelgov.com, everybody. See how we're going to win Minnesota and help out. And God willing, we will win it and it'll change the course for on, Eric. Amen. Bless you, my friend.

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