The Eric Metaxas Show - Adam Carolla

Episode Date: August 13, 2020

It's the show you can listen to any way you like. You can wear what you like or you can wear nothing at all. And you can sit or stand or even squat. Go ahead. Squat a little. You've earned it. I'm squatting. And now your host, Eric Mattaxas.

Hey, folks, welcome to the Airman show. This is what we call Hour 1. Albin, Chris? Yeah. Hour 1. Hour 1. You have your game face on. Hour 2, I believe, is coming up in the next hour.

We'll try. In a couple of seconds, we're talking to Adam Carolla. The comedian, Adam Carolla. He's an atheist. He's funny. And he's got a new book out. And I, look, you'll see. You'll see.

Adam Carolla coming up. We are, I have a book coming out very soon called Donald and the fake news. Let me just show you that book. Look at that. And it is by far the funniest of the three. And I think the other two are funny, just in case you're wondering. But actually very, very funny. And maybe I'll do a reading of that later in the week or something because it is, it's funny.

I mean, it speaks right to what's going on now in the headlines eerily. And it's, you know, it's an adult humor book. I keep saying this. But these books also work for kids because they're not, you know, there's no F bombs or anything. It's not like a nasty thing. They won't get the political jokes, but the adults will get the political jokes. Wow. We should also say that Vice President Biden yesterday picked someone to be his vice presidential candidate.

And we're going to talk to Adam Carolla about that. My big question is, do you pronounce it Kamala, Kamala or Kamala? I don't know. The last name is Harris. It's much easier to go by. she identifies as a black woman. It's important to respect that. But we're going to talk to Adam Crowell about that.

The news cycle is just so kooky. Yesterday we had Sean Hannity on here. And he was so gracious and sweet to me that I was hornswoggled. I don't know him well, but he was just very kind. and I find him to have been prescient and tremendously courageous in saying some of the things that he said over the last few years, which have unfortunately been right on. So, but anyway, if you didn't watch that, we've got it up on video. We've got everything up on video, don't we? I want to say good news for food for the poor.

Many of you have given, or food for the poor campaign, some of you have given, or food for the poor campaign. some of you have not given, and I'm talking to you now. Are you listening? Are you listening? Don't make me come in there, out there. Hold on. I'm still looking appreciate. I'm still looking appreciant in the diction. B-R-E-S-C-I-E-N-T. The root is from science, right? It means knowledge. C-N-S, you know, it's...

Thank you. For knowledge. And Precient means to have, like, for knowledge, almost to be prophetic. But, okay, so, in any, any event, let me, let me read, there's a Greek name in what I want to read. Food for the Poor, we're asking folks to give what they can. I'll just, I'll read this and then I'll tell you. But there's a Greek name in here. I was just blown away when I read this. I said, I've got to read this on the air. It says, okay, our campaign for Food for the Poor, as I just mentioned, has, you know, tapped into the generosity of this audience. So I want to first say, thank you, thank you, thank you,

thank you to those of you who have given so generously, anyone who has given, it just means everything, folks. I've said it on this program many times that very little money goes a very long way in a place like Guatemala or Haiti where kids are literally starving. And because of the COVID and the food supply chains being broken, it's a bad time. So now is the time to do what we can. So we've discussed this crisis. but this is this Greek thing. Retired Admiral James Stavridis. Now the guy who printed this for me, our friend Tom Trattop,

explains how to pronounce Stavrides. Like I wouldn't know that. So I want to say to Tom Troutab, shame on you. I'm Greek. I know how to pronounce Stavrides. Do you know how to pronounce Stavrides? Retired Admiral James Stavrides, who's the former head of our military's southern command,

has been to this area where food for the poor is doing their work. And he recorded something on the impact this is having on kids and how it breaks his heart. So this is Admiral James Stavridis. It is terrible to see. And as it hits, God forbid, the truly poor countries, even worse, say Haiti, for example, it's just devastating to watch. And people are starving. The medical care is simply not available. So try and help others. if you can, particularly here in our home in the Americas. Well, see, that's the thing. The thing that shocks me is this is happening, you know,

not far from our shores in Central America. So metaxus talk.com is the banner. You know most of what you need to know. So I will stop. I'll just give you the phone number here in case anybody can call today. It's 844-863, Hope. 844-863 Hope. They need our help.

844-863 hope. Albin and Chris, what should we talk about before Adam Carolla? We get to say about Adam Carolla before he comes out. I mentioned he's an atheist. I did a think of him and Dennis Prager. Yes. And I was teasing him about being an atheist. And I realized, darn it, I don't have the time to kind of like, you know, have this fun argument with him.

because I now have such confidence in the veracity of the Bible and of the faith that it's actually fun for me to kind of debate with people if they can have fun because I don't like to argue because you don't, you know, you don't argue people into the kingdom of heaven. But it's fun to talk about it. But I don't know if I'll have the guts to do that today probably. I reviewed one of his books, not Taco Bell material for the Washington Times. He's such a funny guy.

He's so delightful. I can't wait for your interview with him. It's going to be great. Well, he's politically conservative, which is kind of shocking in the comedy world. I think he may be the only person in the comedy world to admit to being politically conservative and still have a career. I don't know how that works.

Now, I want to, Chris, Chris, can you say what you think about the VP pick? Everybody wants to know. Well, yeah, I mean, I think it's interesting. I mean, we'll see if, you know, we'll just see how it goes. I found her not to be a very likable candidate. I didn't want to not like a person just based on, you know, they pop up and I hear him talking. But there's something about her that is so unlikable compared to Stacey Adams, who would be, you know, I would love to have Stacey Adams over for dinner, but Kamala Harris, you know.

No, that's funny because actually that's exactly my takeaway. I heard Stacey Adams. She's the one that didn't become governor of Georgia. Yes, yes. But neither did I. Except in her mind, right. But in our mind, you know. Very close.

It's very close. But when she gave the rebuttal to the state of the union, I guess it was, I disagree with her policies and everything she said. She was tremendously likable. Yeah, absolutely. I found it. I thought, wow. And that's not something you can put your finger on like what that is.

But I think that's the, that's the, take on Kamala Harris is that she comes across as phony or inauthentic or somehow unlikable. I don't know what that is, but people keep saying that. So that's going to be tough. But again, we can talk to our friend, Del about it, because he's just come into the room. Hello, Mike. How are you? Oh, wow. He gave me an earful. He's here to remind us that he just said something so creepy. You got to stop. up that, Mike, because he knows he's trying to, like, get me to laugh. But we've got a serious issue. Pillows are for sale. Do you understand me, okay? Cities are burning, but pillows are for sale.

Sheets are for sale. We've talked about the mind-blowing ancient Egyptian technology. This led to UFOs, to all kinds of stuff that the government doesn't want you to know about. But now, Mike has gotten the ability to make geese a sheet that you'll feel like you're sleeping on one of these pyramids. It's just an amazing experience. But when you go to Mypillow.com, keep in mind, this is high-level technology. You're going to sleep better, whether you like it or not. And if you don't use the code, Eric, we are coming after you. And by we, I mean, Mikey, myself, and anybody else who wants to join. We'll be right back with the comedian Adam Carolla.

The Georgie girl swinging down the street so fancy free. Nobody you make. Hey there, folks. Promise is made. Promises kept. The comedian, the comedian. Adam Carolla is my guest. Adam, welcome.

Thanks for having me. Well, it's fun to talk to you because you're a comedian and usually comedians are funny. And I actually enjoy that. I don't know about your audiences, but I enjoy your comedy. And I first of all, I want to announce you have a comedian. You have a book out. Already the title is hilarious. I'm your emotional support animal.

That's the title of your new book. I'm your emotional support animal. Navigating our no joke, all woke culture. I talked to you with our mutual friend, Dennis Prager recently. And I was so giddy in the moment that I teased Dennis. you know, probably too hard. Like he makes me feel so comfortable.

I'll just joke with him and stuff. But I'm going to blame it on you because you're a funny guy and you bring that out in me. I want to hear first of all, my audience is dying to know, speaking of the all-woke, no-joke, culture. Can we just talk politics for a minute

and can you give me your take on Biden's pick of Kamala Harris? What are your thoughts? It just happened. I mean, what do you think? Kamala Harris is, seems to be kind of an empty vessel to me. In a good way?

Sorry? In a good way? Well, not really. Not intellectually. So I was saying on my podcast the other day, whether you couldn't get further apart than Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. Right.

Politically. Right. But I felt like I knew who both those guys were. You know what I'm saying? I know. That's very interesting. That's exactly right. That is interesting, yeah.

I don't feel I know a thing about Kamala Harris. And I don't know if she knows a thing about Kamala Harris. I was just going to say, isn't that the point that she has given people the impression, at least she's given me the impression, but I've heard many other people say that she doesn't have any core values, that she'll say whatever she needs to get elected, that her core value is power and ambition. She just wants to get where she needs to go. And she has contradicted herself dramatically, you know,

just in the campaign, I mean, she basically said she believed Joe Biden's accusers that, you know, that he was sexually inappropriate. She totally believed them. You know, she said a number of things that were really startling and harsh. And now, you know, she's going to be his VP pick. She is his VP pick. She doesn't give the impression that she herself knows what she believes. But to your point, you get, you pick that up. I think that's why everybody kind of says that about her. They just don't have a clue because there's nothing to have a clue about. And, you know, I think, and I feel the same way about Biden.

And I think people do this thing where they try to make it a partisan thing. It's really not a partisan thing. It's like I didn't think Jimmy Carter was a good president, but I felt I knew exactly who he was. And I knew what his values were. And I feel the same way about Clinton. and although Clinton had a little, you know, obviously some more smoke and hoagham there than Jimmy Carter did. But Reagan, I felt like I knew who that guy was. I felt like I traditionally know who these people are. Like you may disagree with Mike Pence, but you feel like you know

who Mike Pence is. And my problem with Kamala Harris is, I don't feel like I know who she is. And I don't think she wants me to know who she is. And I don't think she cares who. who she is. I think she wants to get elected. Okay, but that's kind of bringing up the major point. That's a, that's a creepy, scary thing. In other words, somebody is basically saying, just give me power. And, you know, your book, I'm your emotional support animal, which, you know, it's funny, but it also is about navigating this woke culture. I believe that whoever is elected, certainly Biden is, in a way, I keep calling him Joe Biden in quotes. is no Joe Biden. He's just this, this manufactured, you know, he's like a Trojan horse,

and they're going to load it up with moke, you know, whatever it is, mobs inside the Trojan horse, and he's going to go in there with his plastered smile. But the reality is that the Democratic Party has been taken over. It is not, you know, the Joe Biden of 20 years ago or any of that stuff. That's, to me, that's what I see happen. Yeah, he's kind of the step. president. And yeah, I don't know what his values are either. I don't know that he has them either. Or if he does, he has to tamp them down because he has to stay in step with the party. So this is the, but this may be the new world order. This may not be that as scary, as you say, this may just be where we're going as this may be where politics is going. We're going.

you just take these people and they just sort of parrot these phrases and talking points and they say, you know, Black Lives Matter and no child left behind and blah, blah, blah, nothing. You know, they don't feel it. They don't know it. There's never a plan attached to it. And I don't know why it's satiating or satisfying to a large group. And I don't like all the identity politics, obviously, you know, everyone.

But you say obviously that's, you talk about that in your book. How is it for you as a comedian to have to deal with the no joke all woke culture? I mean, it's difficult for liberal comedians. Are you able to be a comedian? I mean, it just seems to me that when you have folks like Jerry Seinfeld and tons of other mainstream comedians who we would never consider conservative or anything like that, but they are, they're just sick and tired of having to put up with that. Yeah. Well, you know, it's weird. There's sort of, there's a couple answers to that. One is there's kind of two groups of Hollywood types. There are the group that disagree with you, but can still be friends with you and still work with you and still participate with you. And then there's the group that disagrees with you or better yet, you disagree with them. So they can, you're, you are, you are, you are, you are, you.

you know, wished out into the cornfield. They can never speak to you again. So there's a lot of that. In Hollywood, there's a lot of that in comedy. And, you know, I always say it when people say, you know, you go on Fox News and, you know, you're going on Tucker Carlson and you're chasing a dollar going on Fox News or whatever it is, echoing their talking points, which I always love the idea that there's talking points. You know, I mean, I've been on Tucker Carlson 10 times.

I've never had a discussion with him about what I was going to talk about. So I don't know how these magical talking points are communicated to me, maybe the way whales or dolphins communicate or something. So then they go, oh, you're just going on Fox News chasing a dollar. And I go, listen, I would go on Don Lemon show. I'd go on Rachel Maddow show. I'd go on any of the late night shows. I'd go on every show all the time.

They won't have me on. You're banished. once you go on Tucker Carlson or Fox News, then you're not allowed on the other shows. So because of this sort of self-fulfilling prophecy where they're like, all you do is Fox News. No, I will do any show at any time. I have.

I've never turned a show down. I don't get invited on other shows. Would you do this show if I could get you an invitation because I know the producer? Just theoretically. Your show? Yeah. No.

I mean, I was going to say, I don't think you're going to go that far. You don't need to get tagged with that because I'm a hiter. I'm a big time hater. I'm loaded with hate. Let me ask you about what's going on in the country right now because it's all tied in. We have, to me, the big headline is that the elders of the Democratic Party are unable to muster a sentence criticizing the incredible violence that is happening with these mobs threatening people all around the country and so on and so

forth. That to me, that's the headline because in the past, anybody would have been looking for a sister soldier moment where they could be the one to say something and then suddenly, you know, half of America goes for them because they said what everybody's thinking. It's kind of wild to me that the Democratic leadership can't do that. Yeah, it's an interesting phenomenon. which is there are there's a small group of people doing bad very bad things and we have kind of associated them with your side with the democratic side it's sort of like hydrochloroquine or something the president said it might be it might it might it might show some promise and and the in the entire news media turned on hydrochloric way and my feeling is is is

hydrochloroquine can be effective and uh riders and mob you know mobs in the streets of Seattle and Portland whatever can be bad and you can still be a Democrat you know what I mean like a broken clock is right twice a day right like you can say I'm a good Democrat I'm against this violence in Portland and the streets and looters and bombs and all that And yeah, we'll see if hydrochloroquine is effective. It's okay to do it. But now what Trump has done is he's forced everyone just to say never, ever. Like what it is?

We're going to go to a break. I'm talking to the author of I'm Your Emotional Support Animal. Adam Carolla. We'll be right back. Folks, I'm talking to Adam Carolla. You know him as a comedian. I know him as a comedian and the author of a new book called I'm Your Emotional. support animal navigating our all woke, no joke culture.

We're just talking about these woke mobs and how the party leaders, Democratic Party leaders, don't seem to be able to say anything against them. I think it's really telling. It's like they're scared that they will be canceled, that the mob will go after them if they don't say everything they need to say. It's like the Chinese cultural revolution or the French revolution. It's like everybody's scared that they're not. next. I got to tell you, there are certain sort of watershed moments you think about on your point,

which is like, I was watching a Bill Maher show a couple of weeks back, and they had a longtime writer, a journalist for like the New York Times. And he was sort of saying to her, should they be taking op-eds from senators? I think it was a Tom Cotton thing. Should we be taking that stuff down? and she's like, I'm all for free speech, but I do agree that we should have, I do agree with taking that one down. And it's like, you're a 55-year-old journalist and you're agreeing with taking op-eds down. And she was like, well, you know, the reason is the op-ed wasn't too bad, but it didn't comport with his tweets. He had tweets that were negative that were different than the op-ed. I'm like, well, so how's that an argument for taking down the op-ed?

You're a journalist that's insane that you're agreeing with taking down op-eds from senators and always listen to the verbiage. You know, she's also a journalist who was saying, well, because he wanted to call in the National Guard to arrest some of the protesters. And it's like, he didn't say some of the protesters. He said violent protesters. You know what I mean? Like he didn't say some. Didn't say come in and arrest some.

There's a group of 500 peaceful protesters. You should arrest 50 of them. He said, the violent ones. And you're a journalist and you know it. And you're misrepresenting it. Like, this is scary to me. You're literally a 30-year journalist and you're siding with the group who's taking down the op-ed. But that's where we are.

In other words, that's to me where it's a new world. You used to be able to say that the New York Times, they lean left. There's a lot I don't like, but they're basically doing journalism. That is over. And to my mind, it's why people like you and me, we have to speak loudly what we know is right because there's so many people afraid in this new climate. to do that. I think that the New York Times and many things like that, they're gone. Like they're basically, you know, might as well be the inquirer. I don't know what will become of them,

but you can't really, you can't function that way. And not enough people are interested in that. I agree. I also think there's a little bit of a phenomenon that's going on that's probably not going to last that much longer, which is, and I'll be curious what you think of this theory. I feel like when most people, and I work with a lot of people who just sort of, they're younger, they just get their information from CNN or the New York Times. When the people who watch Fox know they're watching Fox. And even though they agree with most of what Tucker Carlson is saying or Sean Hannity is saying, they still know what they're watching.

when people watch CNN, they think they're watching the news, just generic news. You know what I mean? So I talked to a lot of people that are like, they, first of off, they've never heard of half the stuff that Fox is reporting. It doesn't even make the round. They literally don't know what's going on. When you talk about, you know, you hear about this whole Nick Sandman lawsuit and blah, blah, blah.

They're like, what, what, what happened? You know, they're like, Nick Sandman. Oh, yeah, the mega-hand. kid who blocked the elder from the Cherokee tribe. Yeah, what about it? That guy's suing everyone and winning. Why? What happened?

Like, they watch CNN like you're at the airport. You know what I mean? Like you're just sitting at a bar in the airport, drinking a beer and just reading the scroll. Like, that's the news. And then when you watch Fox, people go, all right, you watch Fox, your brain watched by Fox. You watch Fox, you know you're watching Fox.

you know what you're getting. You agree or oftentimes agree, but you still know you're doing it. And that's kind of the difference to me, that people who are watching CNN don't know they're watching CNN. They think they're watching the news. When you wrote this book, I'm your emotional support animal. That's basically just a jokey conceit, right? Now, there's nothing deeper about you just thought of a funny title, but the book is really about, navigating our all-woke, no-joke culture, just so people know what they're getting. Yes, it is that. Although, if you'd listen to me, you know, if you travel with my words versus your dog, you'd probably be better off. Exactly. Well, I want to know more about you and my audience to know more about you. Where did you grow up and how did you evolve into who you are? I grew up in North Hollywood, California. North Hollywood, California.

Were you folks in show business? What are you doing up there? Now, North Hollywood just had the word Hollywood, and it really wasn't Hollywood. It just kind of blue-collar working class, you know, sort of poor-known white people. So you grew up blue-collar work. Actually, they're giving me the signal.

We're going to be right back, folks. I'm talking to Adam Carolla, the new, because I'm your emotional support. animal we'll be right back alman i would like to talk about relief factor sure but you know what even better than than my talking about it what about if we hear from julia can we hear from julia is she here let's go let's go i had pain in my hands that kept me from work and doing projects around the home i heard about relief factor on the radio and began taking it and it left me with pain free hands again i was able to do the things around the house that i enjoy doing i'm so glad i

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It's Relieffactor.com, highly recommended folks. Relieffactor.com. Folks, I'm talking to the comedian, Adam Carolla, the Adam Carolla. Adam, when Toyota came out with a car named the Corolla, were you embarrassed? God, the Corolla must have hit the U.S. in the early 70s. Oh, that early? Yeah, it was, it was been around since the 70s. I was probably too young or whatever.

I was fine. All it did was replace Crayola crayons that my Pop Warner football teammates were calling me Crayal. So it wasn't a big thing for you to process. I'm just one to checking it out. So you grew up, roughly speaking, working class, you said. I would say a little below working class. My mom was a welfare food stamp person. We lived in a crap, a kind of.

a broken down house that my grandparents had bought a second fixer-upper kind of rental house property like literally just for $10,000 in the San Fernando Valley in North Hollywood area for like, you know, like 1952 was like $10,000 or whatever. My mom is pretty depressed and pretty dysfunctional and pretty unable to work. So we just lived in this kind of broken down house and just got welfare. And how did you, you know, at what point did you say, I want to be a comedian? Like, was that something that was early or later? How did you?

I had a sense of humor, but I didn't come from a world where you got to do what you wanted to do for a living. You know, I came from a place where you got a job and you, like, fought to keep it, you know. And everything was about getting six bucks an hour, then seeing if you could get 10 bucks an hour. It's all about how much you got an hour. And your job, a job wasn't supposed to be fulfilling. It wasn't supposed to be interesting. It wasn't supposed to be stimulating. It was supposed to be a job. You worked. And I was a very bad student. So all my work was just kind of physical work. I just clean carpets. And when I got out of high school, I walked onto a construction site, picked up

garbage, dug ditches, moved drywall. I was a laborer. And, and, I was a laborer. And, you know, And I just, that was, those were the kind of jobs I had. I became a carpenter. And, you know, then I got to kind of a crossroads. I was like 21, 22. I was just kind of living in my one-bedroom apartment with my two roommates. And, you know, it was like a drove a truck, a beat-up old truck, and I didn't have any insurance, and I didn't have any cash. And I worked hourly and daily, you know, in construction, the kind of work I did, you didn't

get paid for Christmas. You didn't get, yeah, no medical, no dental. Right, right. No, no, nothing. There's just nothing. You got paid, you know, nine bucks an hour. That was your job. And it was like dirty and dangerous and I didn't like it.

And I just sort of, I had a conversation with myself that more people should realistically have, which is I was just sitting in my apartment. I was like, you know, you're 21 and a half. This sucks. your life is going to be a life filled with sort of no air conditioning, a lot of poverty, no travel, no sports cars, no anything, just work on construction sites. And I thought, I don't want that big picture.

Like, what could I think about doing? And, yeah, I knew I was a very bad student. I wasn't really capable of filing or filling things out or getting my whatever degree. becoming an attorney or something like that. So I just thought, well, what else do you do? Like what is your other quality beside your hard worker and you're good with your hands? Yeah.

What is your other quality? What can you do? And I thought, I have a sense of humor. That's all I thought. So I thought, okay, you're 21, 22. How about we just give it until you're 30 and see if you can make some kind of a career, not as a stand-up comedian or in front of the camera or anything, just something out off the construction site into something that would be more creative. Maybe you could write

jingles or slogan for a greeting card company or join a writer's room for a bad sitcom or anything, but, or maybe you would be the one on camera or behind the microphone. I don't know. I didn't plan it out. I was just like, what you're doing now sucks, and you could do it until you're 30, but you don't want to do it when you're 40. And then like, what is the first thing you did? I mean, where do you go from that thought? I had a friend who was, I knew a young woman

whose family lived up in the hills, and I knew that her dad and her mom were like creatives. Like the dad was a musician. and worked in the industry, and the mom did something with acting or something. And I said to her, Danielle, I said, can I talk to your mom? Because all my dude friends from the Valley, they didn't know anything. And the mom said, yeah, I know what you should do. You should take a groundlings class.

And I said, well, what is that? It's an improv troupe, you know, it's on the west side. You go down there, you sign up. They take an improv class. And I said, okay. And I went down. I saw a Groundling show on a Friday night. And I signed up the next day for a set of Groundlings classes with, by the way, it was like $300 that I didn't have.

You know, I didn't have car insurance back then. And I said, fine, I'll sign up. And I just kept signing up for Groundling classes. And if there was an open mic, I'd do stand up. I'd talk to anybody about. Right there. That's so amazing to me that you go from none. You're just thinking.

And then you think, who do I know, who do I know? Next thing, you know, you're in the world of comedy. Because if you're taking groundlings classes, obviously, you're just in that world where people that are thinking that way and you just proceed. But until that moment, you don't even know that world existed. No, not really. I knew what sitcoms were and I knew what the cinema was, you know, but that was about it. And there wasn't a whole lot of channels or outlets.

or anything. So I didn't know what was going on. But I never put the pressure on myself. I just showed up. And I said, I don't know anything, but I'm going to learn. Well, I want to remind people that you have a bookout. It's called I'm Your Emotional Support Animal. When we come back, I want to ask you, you know, how that went for you. We're actually just got a couple seconds, what will the next step, just briefly? And then I want to keep, keep going. I slowly kind of immersed myself into that world of sketch and improv. By day, of course, I was working full-time as a carpenter, but by night. Hang on, we're going to put a pin in it. We'll be right back talking to Adam Carolla.

We'll make the film about a man that's sad and lonely. And all I got a... Folks, I'm talking to Adam Carolla. In our two, we have Ali Beth Stucky. Adam, so I'm just fascinated by this. So what are the steps that lead you to The Man show? I mean, you're a carpenter, and you're doing this comedy on the side. At what point do you break through somehow?

I was, you know, coming up on my 30th birthday, I wasn't... I didn't have any success. I still was driving a truck and living with roommates. And I was working at the time as a carpenter, but I was also working as a boxing trainer because that was always a passion of mine as well. And it was just, you know, it was one of those white-collar fitness places like from the 90s.

And I heard listening to the local radio in Los Angeles that there was a morning zoo type boxing match was going to take place. And in that boxing match, it was Michael the maintenance man from the Kevin and Bean morning show on K Rock in Los Angeles, going to fight Jimmy the sports guy. Jimmy the sports guy turned out to be Jimmy Kimmel. And I just vowed to train one of them just so I could see the inside of the studio. Unbelievable.

I just love these stories. I mean, you really can't make it up. How bizarre. How absolutely bizarre. We just got a couple of minutes left. I mean, how did you, because we're talking about what's going on in the country, which you can't avoid, unfortunately, but how did you end up having a basically conservative sensibility? Because my guess is that if you grow up in a working class universe, you just see reality in a way that you're not forced to see if you go to some four-year college and hang out with those kinds of. You're just not forced to see the reality of life the way you were forced to see it and working those jobs.

Yeah, I have a very strong mechanical building background. And when you live in a very tangible world where you have to, you talk to any builder, I know what their politics are. You know, you can't be AOC and build, you know, commercial office real estate. You just can't be it. You can't be pine the sky. I'm not even, you know, it's not even really a critique, good or bad. It's just, I think very mechanically. And when you think mechanically, it's just nuts and bolts, straight ahead, what's going to work, how's this going to work? You don't really have any proclamations of like, you know, you know, no child left behind or something like that. Or, you know, there are no illegal aliens or illegal people. Nothing makes sense other than just engineering.

and I come from that world. And so for me, that's my politics. It's just very nuts and bolts what's going to work. It's like, does school choice work or not? If it works, then we're doing school choice. That's all. I don't need to go. I don't need more of the politics attached to it.

Well, you pretend you don't, but the fact of the matter is it's there. It's just that you don't need to go there because you can see past those principles to what works. works. But if you if you work it backwards, there are principles. There's reasons that things work. But I'm just fascinated because I think that people that live in the quote unquote real world, usually they understand that, you know, you can't just print money and make the problem go away

that way or whatever. They have a more practical sense of things. Unfortunately, we're out of time. Adam Carolla, I could talk to you forever, which I would take as a compliment. You really are a pal to come on the program. Thank you. Good luck with the book and everything you do. I'm your emotional support. Animal is available everywhere by Adam Carolla. Adam again, thank you so much. Thanks for having me.