The Eric Metaxas Show - Albin and Anthony Sadar

Episode Date: January 11, 2025

Eric is seeing double when Albin and his twin brother Anthony join the program 

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I wub, vanilla. I wopanella. Here comes Eric Metaxis. Hey there, folks. Welcome to January 10th, 2025. Unbelievable. Today is a big date in my life because it was literally,

not literally. Yes, literally. It was exactly a year ago today that my sweet dad passed away, 96 and a half years. old exactly a year ago today. Chris, you and I were at this kind of retreat thing in Dallas with our friend Simone Alex and it was like a media summit. You obviously, you remember that. I do. Yeah, we were at Liberty Ranch and Liberty Ranch. That's what it was in Dallas. And I remember going to bed talking with a woman at the hospital and she was like, your dad's not doing very well, you know,

whatever. And at that point, I was praying the Lord would take him because it was so hard to watch the whole thing. It didn't, it didn't look like he could conceivably pull out of it or that if he did pull out of it, it would just be bad for a much longer time or whatever. So I was praying that the Lord would take him. And the next morning, I was on the phone with my brother and my brother told me that he was there and my dad had just passed. That was January 10th a year ago. So it's interesting. Since then, if you follow me on X, the photo that I have at the top of the page on X is the first photo.

of me and my dad together. I was, I guess, it looks like I'm about three months old and I'm in the carriage. And so that photo has been up and my dad is looking down at me. It's such a beautiful, I can't even believe the photo exists,

but it's on X. And I decided I would leave it there for a year. And so probably, today at some point I'll take it down. But I felt to honor my father's memory, I would do that. And it's an interesting thing because I remember when my grandmother passed away, when my father's mother died of cancer in Greece in 1970, or was it 71, I have to remember exactly, I believe it was 1970.

for a year my father wore a black tie. That's what they do in Europe. And my father honored his mother for a year to be in mourning, publicly in mourning, for a year. And he wore a black tie, which was not as odd in 1970 as it would be today because, you know, usually men going to the office would wear a white shirt and a dark tie. but my father wore a black tie for a year. And, you know, in Europe years ago, people would wear an armband for a year to show that they're in mourning. But there were interesting rules about it and traditions. And I think we've lost a lot of that.

And anyway, my very simple way of honoring my father publicly has just been to keep this photo on my ex account at the top of my profile page for a year. So today, since it's a year, probably tomorrow, I will take it down and I'll put something more goofy up or whatever. But it's interesting to me. It's been a strange year because my dad was 96 and a half and it was the Lord's time that he go. But my mom is 90 and it's been tough. It's been tough for all of us because suddenly you're in this strange new reality, which is hard to process. How does, and many of you listening, maybe most of you have been through stuff like this,

I really never had. And, you know, my mother was married to my dad for 64 years. And suddenly he's gone. And it really changes things. And so I've been spending a lot of time in Danbury, Connecticut with my mom. And just trying to process this.

How do you process this? When you know that someone you love is with Jesus, first of all, that's kind of key. If you don't know that, it becomes really strange and painful. But it's just been a, it's been a strange year. And there's so much about me. I've said this many times on the program that I would not be who I am without my dad. My dad showed us love as a father ought to show his family love. But my father did. He was faithful, faithful as a father, faithful as a husband, faithful as a provider, a deeply good man, that will change you.

That will affect you. You cannot escape that. And so I say bluntly, everything I am is because of my dad. And any good anywhere ultimately is because of the Lord, is because of God. And so even if there are people like my dad who didn't have that personal relationship for most of his life with Jesus, sometimes it doesn't matter, folks. you can still be good because God is still working in you. I'm glad my father eventually did have a personal relationship with Jesus. But the goodness that came out of him all of his life and as a father,

that Jesus is the source of that. God is the source of all that goodness. And we need to be clear about that stuff. So I wanted to say that in a few minutes. Oh, and by the way, my love of Greece and all things Greek, that's because of my father. And it's a good opportunity for me to mention our cruise to Greece. I still can't believe we're doing this January, June 6th through 16th.

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We want to get a lot of people there. Before we go, now I mentioned that in a few minutes, we have Albin and Tony Seder coming up. We haven't had Albin on in a while. So it's always a joy to speak to him and his brother. It's hilarious. So stay tuned for hilarity any second. And in hour two, we're going to hear from our friends at CSI briefly because we are not done with CSI. Very, very important that anybody who is not yet, this is it, folks.

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Welcome back. I told you that we wanted an update from our friend Albin SADAR, but we got a big bonus for you. We got not just one, but two Albans, although the other guy has a different name. Albin Seder and his identical twin brother, Anthony, Aalbiz. Ilya Tony Seder. Guys, welcome to the program. I'm seeing double. Oh, we've never heard that one before.

That's great. Wow. You're funny. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. You know what's weird, though? I say this about you guys.

It's like Tony looks unbelievably like Albin. I guess that's a standard identical twin thing. Tony, you look unbelievably like Alvin. But here's the weird thing. Albin, you don't look that much like Tony. Nope. Nope. It's just weird. It's just weird. If people are watching this video, they know exactly what I'm talking about. And if you're not watching this video, folks, and you're on radio, you just can have to take my word for it.

But Tony looks nothing like Albin, but Albin looks exactly like Tony. It makes no sense. So Tony and Albin, welcome to the program. Happy New Year to you guys. Yeah, happy, happy New Year. And by the way, we are the poor man's Benham Brothers. So if you're out there, we're like the Benham Brothers like 40 years later or something. the poor man's benham i haven't had the benham brothers on here uh for a while actually they're yeah they're fantastic you have the sadar twins for the i got the next i got the next best thing um no but honestly uh it's great to see you a happy new year what i'm i mean i still feel like i'm in a festive mood and i want to talk about you know what you do for christmas now you guys spent a lot of time

together to the chagrin of your wives who hate you um so were you together in houston over the holidays. Oh, no, no, no. Anthony was, you were in Pittsburgh, weren't you, for Christmas? Well, no, we went to Rochester, Rochester, where his, one of his daughters, his middle daughter is. But now, I want to mention this, because of course we get your newsletter, we love the newsletter, et cetera. And you mentioned what you did on Christmas Eve, which was you went to a church service, there were the carols, and there was the Bible readings. And then you came home and watched, It's a Wonderful Life. And I read that, I said, I can't believe in. This is, this is true. That's what we did in Houston with the, with the family. and my father-in-law is 91 years old. He actually turned that the day after Christmas, right?

And we took them to the service and it was wonderful. And at the Christmas dinner table, that day, I, you know, Christmas Day, I said, Dad, you know, you really are like George Bailey because you were faithful to God. You were faithful to mom. And if it wasn't for all of that, you know, your grandchildren wouldn't be here. Your children and I wouldn't be here. And by the way, Dad, I stole $8,000 from you. Yep.

You stole $8,000. So you finally came clean, Albin. Good for you. Good for you, man. That's cool. I know you're not going to pay it back, but cool that you admitted it because it's all about grace, bro. It's all about grace.

It is. And oh, by the way, we haven't taught. Well, maybe we did talk since the election, but, you know, January 6th, of course, he's officially, he's officially back. Trump won? Yeah. Oh, whoa, all right. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he pulled it out. It's great. Even with the cheating. Even with the grotesque. But I wanted to tell your audience this that I haven't worn my, I've had patriotic socks. I've not worn for four years because of the stolen election in the whole nine yards. But today, today, hold on a second. Hold on.

It's a good thing. It's a radio program so people can't see your patriotic socks. I'm wearing, I just took them off, but I'm wearing my patriotic socks. Yeah. How lame is that? But congratulations. God bless America. Wow.

Wow. Okay. So, guys, I want to, I want to say, I want to put. Tony on the spot. Now, Tony and I, we were hanging out. I don't know, it's over a year ago. How long goes this? Two years ago? Two years ago. Two years ago in Pittsburgh. It was a mid- And I love Pittsburgh. I got to say, I love Pittsburgh. But I only learned recently, because you live in Pittsburgh, I only learned recently, no kidding. And I feel stupid about this. I probably learned this like in junior high and forgot. But that Pittsburgh is named for William Pitt,

the elder. Yeah. Well, you go, oh, yeah. Yeah, you live there. But I'm just saying it's such a funny thing because we're thinking about the mid-18th century, William Pitt the Elder, the father of William Pitt the Younger, who if people have read my Wilberforce book, they know about William Pitt the Younger, the Prime Minister. But William Pitt the Elder, you know, was prime minister during the French and Indian War, I guess. And somehow what had been named, was it Fort Duquesne that became? Tell us about this, because my audience is dying to know more about Pittsburgh.

Well, I don't know all the history of Pittsburgh. People should know that was always a key city because it was the confluence of the Allegheny, what's called the Allegheny and Mon Rivers confluence to the Ohio River. So they had... Wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry. It was the confluence of which rivers, the Monongahela? Yeah, the Allegheny and Monongahela River form at the point in the... Pittsburgh where they used to have Fort Pitt, you know, to defend the early nation at Fort Pitt

because the two rivers meet and they form what we call the Ohio River today. Right, right. It's heads on into the Mississippi River down to the Gulf of Mexico. But they had that, they always had a fort there. And today you can get down and historically see the outline of the fort, which is amazing in a way, because it's really a relatively small blockhouse type of. Did you say you can historically see? see it? You can see the footprint. Yeah, they left the footprint of the fort. But when you see it,

you're seeing it historically. You're not just seeing it like normally. Oh, yeah. No, the actual fort's not there anymore. They have a nice gift shop there, which they had back in whatever it was, 1760. They had a great. Same gift shop. I know. The gift shop, man, before the revolution, that was the best gift shop. Yeah. A lot of sticks and stones and things. But man, but the history, I mean, I look, you guys know I love history. And recently I was reading about this. And And it's such a fascinating thing because I think a lot of us, we learned about this in grade school. And then everybody forgets about it. But the whole idea of the French and Indian War and how the French basically, you know, they had control from, I mean, because we don't think of waterways anymore because now we have trains and airplanes.

But the whole world traveled on water. So you think of the St. Lawrence Seaway going into what? I can't remember how it. But the bottom line is they would navigate all. all the way down the Ohio. Right. And the French wanted control. But of course, the British colonists were bumping up against that.

And they sent George Washington and some bad stuff happened. And anyway, never mind. Right. But it's fascinating. To me, it's fascinating history. No, it is. And Pittsburgh really is a beautiful city. It's certainly one of my case.

It's like I explained to my wife to just today. I said, you know, the reason why it's the packers, right, is because they pack cheese. They pack things. the reason why it's the Steelers is because they made steel. It was all about the city. You identify with those things. It's not because they stole stuff.

No. It's because Steelers, they made steel. S-T-E-E-L. So, ladies and gentlemen, get that right. They might steal. They might steal. They might steal. Yeah.

But it was, of course, the steel capital, I think, of the world. We used to have steel mills up and down. They morn, the Allegheny, and Ohio rivers. There used to be steel mills all over Pittsburgh. Now the major steel concern is, is U.S. Steel, which has been in the news, of course, because U.S. Steel and what's the other steel company from Japan, one to merge, as one steel company. And, but anyway, it's U.S. Steel Clarton Coke Works, which I did a lot because I'm retired meteorologist. I was the air quality meteorologist for all game. Yeah, you should hold up your book, Anthony. You should show your book.

Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. By environmental risk communication book. Environmental risk communication. Man, that's got to be flying off the shelves. Yeah, get it out of the way, because my book is here too, obvious. So obvious is, it's a much more obvious title. Yeah, well, it's funny. The book is literally titled obvious. I have literally been for decades reading another book, and I realize it's the original

obvious book, and that's the Bible, especially in these times. Everything that's going on, it's right there in the Bible. It's obvious. It's right there. And if you can't read the Bible, pick up Albin's book obvious. It's kind of like a sequel, I guess. I don't know. But, you know, it's interesting as I talk to you guys together,

I realize that it's like, it's kind of like Tony is the slightly more serious intellectual version of Albin. It's, it's, you know, because usually with siblings, the differences are so dramatic. But you guys are so similar. But it's just fascinating because I spent some time with Tony two years ago, whatever. and it's just like, it's just like being with Albin, but a little bit more serious, or maybe a lot more serious, I don't know.

This happened for the first time, too. We were at the dinner together, my twin brother and I and my wife, and my twin brother is sitting across the table from us, and she started to talk to him, and she actually confused us for the first time. She's like, hey, Elbin, I want to tell you, it's like, oh.

Oh, yeah. Even weirder, I started to look at Elbin and say, hey, Anthony, and I confused him with me. That was a wow. I confused the Ann. with the waiter. That is incredible. I don't know what they're serving over there.

Those drinks, they should cut back on this. That is unbelievable. Yeah. The Bridgefield Tavern, by the way. My favorite restaurant. Chris knows all about it, right? So you guys are now in the Terrytown, New York area, obviously. You're together in Albans Studio.

Yeah. And Tony, how long are you hanging out for? Well, I'm going to be leaving to go back to join my wife and other set of grandkids, which are in West Hartford, Connecticut. it, yes. But I'll be doing that tomorrow morning. So I've been here for just a few days. Went to Jonathan Kahn's church. And we introduced. Yeah, Jonathan Kahn, I got him to, you know, to give a special blessing or whatever. Actually, he didn't. I should have. A special twins blessing. Yeah. A special double blessing. A double abortion for the twins. All right, folks,

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It's Albin Seder and his identical twin. Tony, now listen, Tony, we joke around a lot, but you, Tony, Sadar, you spent, you had a whole decade as a meteorologist. You're an expert on this kind of stuff. And you know, and I know that the whole global warming thing, it's like this insane religion that's kind of weirdly. anti-science and they keep saying that if you don't believe in it, you're anti-science. Can you give us a meteorologist perspective? Yeah, let me give you just real quick my background because I retired meteorologist. I actually retired on January 19, 2021, one day, the day before the new administration took in. But I've been in the atmospheric science business for over 40 years,

you know, in academia for 10 years and in consulting for 12 and government work, basically. basically for 20 years. And one reason why I didn't want any part in a new administration is because their focus was like almost completely on environmental, on global warming. And you meant, you mean the, the fake stolen Biden administration. You knew that they were so focused on that and you didn't want to be involved. Yeah, no, because the Environmental Protection Agency, even though I worked for, worked for a local health department, they influence all the way down into the local level, even smaller, and Iris is one of the largest health departments in the United States, and I was the air pollution meteorologist.

And as I mentioned before, one of our biggest concerns, of course, is pollution emissions from the Clareton Coke Works and the U.S. Clarton Steel Mills. Clarton Coke Works was the, and I think it still is, the largest coking operation where they take coal and conversion. Whoa, whoa, it's a family show, pal. Back it up. Whoa. We can't talk about Coke on this program like that. But wait a minute, you're talking about Coke as a, what is, give us a lesson in the manufacturing

of steel. I don't remember what is Coke, the Coke that is a, it's a byproduct. It comes from the slag. What is it? No, no, no. What happens is you bring in raw coal, which is coal is, you know, throughout Western Pennsylvania and such. And you cook it in coking ovens, which are told.

Okay, wait a minute. I just want to get this straight. If I'm going to make steel, I bring in. coal. Yes. And then I cook it in coking ovens. Right, right. It's like 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit or so. So you're burning, you're fuming off all the nasty stuff that's in the coal itself. So when you see coal, it looks like a rock. So the coking oven is designed to turn coal into what's the next step? Yeah. Well, it turns it immediately into a product called Coke. And Coke, if you look at it, is a lot lighter because all the impurities were burned off in these ovens, and it becomes just pure carbon

essentially that's used in carbon steel making. I can't believe I'm learning something valuable. So you take coal, raw coal, you mine coal. So let's say I mine some coal. I got the coal. I bring it to a cooking oven. The point of the cooking oven is at 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit or something equally scary. We're burning off the impurities and we're turning the coal into what's called.

called Coke. Okay, then what? And then the actual Coke then is used, is sent on in these, you know, rail cars and such, but it's sent on to, to be added into the steelmaking process, which includes things like, I guess, lime and such. These are things I learned many years ago. Hey, look, I need to get this recipe because I like to make some steel. Oh, yeah. I'd like to make some beer, but go on. You can make beer. No, it's, but the Coke itself is the key. It's, but the Coke itself is the key. ingredient in making carbon steel because Coke is carbon. But in the making of steel, you need to get out all the impurities. But this is where the air pollution part comes in is you're baking off anything that was in essentially a rock called coal, right? And you're baking it all off. And so

all that nasty gas, whatever, has to go somewhere. So it has to go into purification systems to keep it from going straight out into the environment. But you can't control all of it. But it's some of the nastiest stuff. Anything you can mention, arsenic, lead, mercury, whatever, will be in those gases to some degree. My job was to evaluate the emissions that finally did make it out of the smokestacks and determine whether the concentration of those emissions downwind into the community

would be a problem, obviously, to the rest. residence. So this was your job, and you were on the take. People bribed. You'd keep your mouth shut. So what if people die, right? I'm glad I'm downwind of this discussion, by the way. Oh, that's very good. That's good, that's good. Tony, seriously, this is very, it's so interesting to me because I, you know, I'm learning here, right? So obviously in the cooking process, really, really nasty stuff is it's being released. And I guess up to a certain, no, I guess up to a certain point, we did not have these standards so that this stuff really was getting into the atmosphere. At what point historically, what decade did the government say we need to do something about this?

Well, actually, about 75 years ago in southwestern Pennsylvania and De Nora, Pennsylvania, and I wrote an article about this, DeNora, 1948 in the wintertime, December, when did it occur, October, 1948, is when, there is a huge temperature inversion, which just means a stagnation condition where pollution that came out of the local steel mills, actually south of Pittsburgh, just started building up in the city of De Nora and surrounding communities, and caused almost immediately the deaths of about 20, 21 people, but it also sickened the entire community. But back then, they really didn't have much control. So if you look at pictures back in the late 40s, early 50s, like of Pittsburgh, They show these famous pictures that at noon in downtown Pittsburgh, you can only see about a block because there is so much smoke in the atmosphere.

So it's like you want to talk about pollution, ladies and gentlemen. This is pollution. When we come back, we're going to hear more about the coking process. And we're going to bring the Coke brothers. I mean, the SADAR brothers back to the program. Don't go away. Folks, welcome back. I'm not talking to the Coke brothers because one of them is dead.

but I am talking to Albin and Tony S-A-D-A-R and Albin, you don't know nothing about meteorology, but your brother, holy cow, we're learning so much here. So Tony, this is actually to me fascinating, learning about the making of steel and what happened. And so you said in 1948 there was this huge disaster, so it forced people to say we need to do something about this. Yeah, in fact, that really was the beginning of the environmental regulations. and the concern for the environment in the United States. Now, in the early 1950s, there were more serious incidents that occurred in London, with a famous London smog where thousands of people would die under these kind of incidents.

And that was one of my specialty is observing what they call temperature inversions, where the atmosphere becomes very stagnant. The air doesn't move. And if it doesn't move very much for several days on end, pollution just keeps building up and up and up. but the stagnation is not a result of the cooking process. It's just a natural meteorological situation, but that exacerbates the deaths of the, yeah. Can you say that word on radio?

Exacerbates. Yeah, okay. All right. So, good, good. And that's correct. In fact, I did one of the only peer-reviewed papers ever published on the climatology of temperature inversions in the Pittsburgh area, both morning. Anyway, we won't get into all the details, but it's just fascinating.

Albin has always says what a dummy you are. You're not a dummy. You know a lot of stuff. I'm really, Albin, he's not the dummy that you have said he is over the years on this program publicly to millions of people. He's really, you know, he knows what he's talking about. No, you got it wrong. I was talking about I did ventriloquism as a kid and that was the dummy.

It wasn't like when you were up on my lap. afford a dummy at the time. So at first, I was his dummy. I got it. I got it. All right, never mind. So keep going Tony. This is fascinating. Keep going. So I did this 30-year study. Actually, me and I had some student interns

typically helped me. How long did it take you to do the 30-year study? Well, I was doing the evaluations daily, but finally I was a trick question. The answer is 30 years. Oh, yeah. Well, there's several years worth of data, but it didn't take me

do 30 years. But okay, that's, I guess it's humor, attempted humor. If you do a 30 year study in 20 years, something's wrong, but please continue. I collected 30. I was going to say that's 20, something like 21,400 data sets that we had to look at. We had to evaluate the data from 21,000, something like 400. And I had, you know, I had interns help me and other professionals help put together the data analysis. And again, I put together a study of the trends of temperature inversions in the Pittsburgh area. And like anything else, because people are trying to claim,

you know, climate change is affecting all that. And it does. I mean, climate does change, and it is affecting things like temperature inversions. But as usual, they're positive and negative to the changes that are occurring.

And so we found that the frequency of temperature inversions and the strength of temperature inversions were going down in the morning time, which is most critical time. But they were kind of level and going up slightly in the evening temperature inversions.

Could you try to make this slightly more fascinating? Well, the overall trend is to say, and this is what I've always said even in other radio interviews, is that science is nuanced, okay, when someone tells you the science is settled or that we know this absolutely about this,

it's very nuanced. You don't say carbon dioxide is going up, temperatures are going up, we're all going to die. That's, no, that's not true. So you're not a devotee of the climate change cult. Can we sum it up there? Yeah. And I think a lot of people, because I'm in, you know, I'm in the know on this with other professionals, it's like any other, you know, there's a popular narrative that's given. And it's, you have to be very cautious if you go against the popular narrative. But if you're in the, in the profession and you talk to other

professionals like myself, who have many, you know, decades, as I had, like I said, over 40 years, you understand how the how the trend in thinking is going and what people are allowed to say and not allow to say. I experienced it firsthand where I even worked. When I was to report on the kind of information I just told you about because my bosses were concerned about what I would say, news at the National Weather Service had directed a local television station to me to talk about temperature inversions because the National Weather Service relied on my so-called expertise in this area. area. But I wasn't allowed to talk to the, because they were concerned, I wasn't going to hype up the climate change, was causing worse conditions in the Pittsburgh area. So two of my bosses. And so that was coming down from the federal government, from the environmental.

No, no. My local supervisors, they got on and they told the story. So why were they so concerned about this? Are these just people hoaring after their careers? Isn't that it? Like they want to say this so they can move along in the food chain and they'll just, you know, worship the devil so they can get $10 more in their bonus. What is going on? No, I think it's people that are honestly doing a good job, but they think they're going to go with the consensus on things. And even though I was, you know, I was a specialist in our particular area and can address the concerns of climate change.

And again, climate is changing. There are some good and their bad things related to that. and human beings are without a doubt, they're contributing. There's a thing called the urban heat island. If human beings do contribute to climate change, there's no doubt about it. But to what degree? And in the long run, is it bad?

And certainly in the long run, is it disastrous. I don't believe it's disastrous at all. Not in the long run, certainly. There are some things that, bad things that go up and some things are better because of climate change. A lot of things can be better because of climate change. In any case, you know, I just expect. Let me just put this.

I just experienced myself that the narrative is oftentimes given, even though the nuance or the exact information is not. And I think it's because people have a story to tell, and they tell their story, whether it's absolutely accurate or not. Well, I know, but it tends to be that people push the narrative that selfishly will help them. They don't care about the truth enough to trust a free, population with the nuance.

They feel like they've got to hammer this narrative and they've been hammering this this climate change narrative for decades. Most of it is nonsense. John Kerry the other day out of his skull, out of his skull. He came up with he was just talking

about, you know, oh, we need to have, I mean, look, I've already been ranting and raving too much. We'll be right back, folks. Final segment, I'm talking to the twins, the SADAR brothers, at least they claim to be twins. They do look pretty similar. We'll be right back. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to one retired meteorologist and one non-retired non-meteorologist. It's Albin Seder and his brother Tony. I don't know which is which, but it doesn't matter.

Albin, you had some thoughts before we go about praying and the election. Yeah, exactly, because we're all wondering what's going to happen in 2025, and especially all those of us who prayed fervently for Donald Trump to not just to win, but to get a sense of history and how we can change things that have gone astray, not just these last four years. I think they began 16 years ago with Barack Obama, but that's another story. But of course, I was praying about it. And I think when I learned at roughly 2.15 in the morning of November 6 that Donald Trump had definitely once,

I also had a spirit, in a sense, come over me that the rest of the country was going to be okay. There wasn't going to be rioting. There wasn't going to be burning and looting that even the people that didn't vote for him thought, you know what, I kind of think he deserves it. And, you know, it's almost like, yeah, I'm kind of glad he did beat him. I can't say it out loud. but I'm kind of glad that maybe this country is going to get back on track. And I remember specifically praying for miracles, you know, things that could be attributed,

not to coincidence, but the actual miracles. And after Donald Trump had had dodged that bullet, you know, and just missed his ear. And it was, and I knew it was a miracle. I said, thank you, God, thank you. And I am not kidding. About a second later, I heard a voice behind me after I said, thank you, said, no problem. I thought. Yeah, that was, that was funny to a minority of the.

audience that knows how much I hate when people, everywhere I go, I say thank you. And usually it's the young person goes, no problem. Actually, you should say, you're welcome. Not, no problem. So that was very funny. That was funny to me and the handful of people that find that funny. One thing I also want to point out is the toxic male was back. When Donald Trump leaped up, he didn't crawl off the stage, he stood up and said, fight, fight, fight, fight, like Tim Walts. Yeah. That's the toxic male response, right? And so now it's... Well, look, there's nothing toxic about it. That's the whole point. Well, I guess it's proper warrior masculinity. And it was beautiful to see him leap up and say fight, fight, fight. It was amazing a gift. I'm putting toxic in quotes, right? Well, of course. Yeah. And also he looked for, I don't know if he lost one or both of his shoes, but he also wanted his shoes back. He wanted he's a dignified guy. You know what he paid for those shoes? Oh, yeah. You don't want to know. I think a secret service person in trying to protect them stepped on the back of his shoe, and that's how it came off.

Who knows? Who knows? We'll never know, but I want the new administration to find out about those shoes. We need to get to the bottom of the shoe thing. So we've only got a minute left. Let me put Tony on the spot. Tony, Albin and Ann have signed up for the cruise to the Greek islands 10 days, June 6th to the 16th. It's going to be insane.

There's a three-level go-car track on the top of the boat. I was sure that you and your wife would be along for this trip. And I'm just curious, is there any chance that you might come? No. Do you hate the Greeks? Be honest. Well, besides hating the Greeks. No.

No, tell them about your wife, right? Well, I mean, my wife is not, she doesn't like big boats. Let's put it that way. She's afraid of flying? No, no, I'm not afraid of flying. she's afraid of boats. Well, she's not afraid of boats. It's not her thing. Let's put it that way. If you had a little river cruise thing, she'd be on it in a moment.

Wait a second. We're not going across the Atlantic Ocean. This is the Mediterranean. There's like no waves in the Mediterranean. This is like this is a hundred times safer than going across Lake Erie. Are you kidding me? As a meteorologist, you should be ashamed of not knowing about these the currents and the tides and things like that. Even Ben Franklin when he discovered the Gulf Stream. This is, you know, 200 plus years ago. He knew the relative safety of the Mediterranean.

All right. Luckily for you, Tony, we're at a time. Tony and Albin, God bless you guys. Thank you for being twins because I know it takes work. It's not a normal thing. Most people can't achieve it. You guys have achieved it. You've stuck to it all these decades.

So God bless you. And thanks for being on. Thank you. I bless you too, Eric. Bye. Bye. Bye.