The Eric Metaxas Show - Alex Berenson

Episode Date: December 2, 2021

Alex Berenson has been all over the Coronavirus shenanigans soon after its inception and talks specifics from his just-released book, "Pandemia"; plus, Alex dives into the media's role in squashing free speech.

to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks, Alvin, Chris, James, the engineer hiding. Today is Wednesday, the 1st of December. Did you think we would finally get to December? I know, theoretically, every year we get to December, but this year I was having my doubts. I was really praying for the rapture. Yeah, so was I.

By the way, you didn't even mention I've got a different hat on today. That's because I'm a man. have many hats, you see. Well, I didn't mention it because it's a radio program and nobody believes you, Albin. Unless they're watching it, why would they even think that, you know, we're wearing clothes? It's radio. Okay, but you've got to tune in the Rumble or Frank speech at 3 o'clock. You've got to do it.

Okay, let's hit the highlights and then we'll move backwards. Okay, number one today. In our next segment, we're going to be talking to Alex Berenson. Some of you know that name. He's a big deal. He was a New York Times reporter for 10 years. And then, and this is kind of the larger narrative of our, of the time in which we live in America, something happened.

And straight on reporting was no longer acceptable. So he has found himself kind of doing his own thing. He's been on Tucker Carlson quite a bit. He's got a new book out called Pandemia, where he's, he's talking about what most people on this program know that whatever is going on with this so-called pandemic, the powers that be the government, they have overreach. They've used this as an opportunity that has really turned things upside down. And that's why we find ourselves in this very strange place.

So in a couple of minutes, Alex Berenson, brand new book. It came out literally yesterday, Pandemia. We're going to be talking to him. We also will be talking to Kevin McCullough, right? Oh, yeah. But he's not going to be wearing his turban today. We got a lot of information to cover. We need to talk about the Roe v. Wade thing at the Supreme Court.

We need to talk about Chris Cuomo leaving CNN indefinitely because he was caught doing something with Jeffrey Tubin. At least that's the report I'm getting on Kansas. camera. We're going to be talking about that. But before we get into anything really substantive like that, I want to mention, I'm going to be in San Diego this weekend preaching. It's the Balboa campus of Awaken Church. Evidently, I've been moved to the Balboa campus. It's their big campus. I'm preaching three services on Sunday. And I hope I will have my nasal issues cleaned up by then. I know. There's something going on with your nose, I think. No, people can tell that I'm still stuffy or whatever because I'm recovering from various things.

But I want to say I'll be in San Diego. I'm going to be in Billings, Montana next Tuesday night, speaking at an event. So I want to mention that. And I also want to mention before we get into the news of the day, because we've got time today. We rarely have time, but we have time to get into the news of the day just amongst ourselves. And then later on with Kevin McCullough. But before we get into that, I want to remind folks of two things. We're doing a fundraiser for CSI.

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McCullough, just you, Chris and Albin. Today is a big day in in America because the Supreme Court, I believe now, while we're taping this, is hearing the oral arguments in a Mississippi case that could end up being what overturns Roe v. Wade. And I just want to be on the record and say, there's a lot of false information out there, okay? When people who are pro-abortion say that overturning Roe v.A. will be some dramatic horror. I just want to say to those people, there are plenty states in America where if Roe v. Wade went away yesterday, you can still get your late-term abortion. So you're hearing a lot of fearmongering from people who act as though, you know, we're going to go back to the 1820s. And I just want to be clear that even if Roe v. Wade ends up being overturned, in the scheme of things, it's nothing.

We're still going to have plenty abortion in America. The only thing that will change is that we are not going to have. a preposterous federal law that says every person in America is somehow entitled by the Constitution to an abortion, which is ridiculous. Even if you are pro-abortion, the idea that our Constitution somehow guarantees abortion into the last months, it is preposterous, it's bad law. And I, on this program, I always just want to be clear about what we're dealing with. So abortion doesn't get wiped out if the Supreme Court undoes Roe v. Wade. So this is a lot of fear mongering you're hearing on the other side and you're going to get a lot of, we're just going to have a lot of that.

You're going to have a lot of people freaking out. And I just want to say, I don't even know what you're freaking out about because abortion will still be legal in America, unfortunately. Right. In some states, it'll be legal and some states it'll be illegal. You know how they talk about carrying firearms across state lines. Well, this will be, you would be carrying your unborn child across state lines, you know, for an abortion. Was there a joke in there? Let's backtrack. It's not a joke. It's a sad fact. Well, no, but I mean, the fact is, yes, you'll be able to get on a bus or get in a car and

drive someplace and have a late-term abortion. So I just want to be clear because people never talk about this. At least I find that. Let's be realistic here, folks. Before 1973, there were plenty states in the union, like New York, where I live, where you could get a late-term abortion legally. So to go back before Roe v. Wade, it's not going to change that much. So when people, I mean, first of all, I think it's fantastic nonetheless, because it sends a signal and it's very, very important. I think it has spiritual significance. But I just want to be clear about that, that when you hear people talk as a were, we're setting back the clock, I wish we were sitting back the clock, but we're not going to be sitting back the clock.

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I have the privilege of speaking with Alex Berenson. Some of you know him. Some of you don't. I think that covers everybody. He is not so diverse. to sum up. He's a journalist. He has written a book called Pandemia, How Coronavirus Hysteria took over our government rights and lives. Alex, you were a reporter for the New York Times for quite a while. Are you no longer with the Times? I'm no longer with the Times.

As we sort of said to each other, we're both class traders, I think. I went to Yale. I went to Yale. I worked for the Times for 10 years. I left in 2010. I became a novelist. I wrote a series of spy novels that did pretty well. But in the last few years, I've gotten pulled back into journalism, mainly because I feel there are huge stories out there that my old friends at the Times and elsewhere are just either covering terribly or not covering at all. But what's a little cowardice among journalists? So listen, you have bravely been covering what's going to?

going on out there. And for folks like me, it's a very difficult thing to get one's head around the idea that things we took for granted, even though they were flawed, institutions like the New York Times and the so-called mainstream media, that they would get the basics, just like the military basically would defend the country. There might be scandals, but basically they understood what their job was. That has gone away. And the coronavirus, coronavirus madness has exacerbated that and accelerated that. And you've been covering that. A lot of us have seen you on Tucker Carlson.

What is in the book Pandemia for folks who are utterly unaware of you and what you've been doing? I mean, I think that's a really good way you put it. You know, you expected that the military, you know, can defend the country. Maybe they spend too much on a plane or whatever, but they can do their job. When I worked at the times, and I was there, not for a cup of coffee, for 10 years. I believed our job was to report the facts. And of course, every human being has bias, and there's going to be bias in story selection and stuff, but that my job was to get to the facts of a particular story as best I could.

And I do think that that's gone. And in writing pandemic, you know, which, you know, it's only been two years, but to see mistake after mistake that the public health authorities and governments made and the way that reporters didn't just, you know, not question what was going on, but really abetted what was going on. I mean, those are some of the themes in the book. I think people have sort of lived through this, we've all lived through this maelstrom in the last two years, but when you step back and you see how, for example, you know, school closures, I've talked a lot about school closures, and I talk about them in the book, they were a terrible idea. Okay. And it was clear,

almost from the beginning that they were a terrible idea. I am on record on Twitter before Twitter banned me saying they're a terrible idea in March, not March, in April and May, not of this year, in April and May of 2020. Okay, so that happened. And we all sort of agree that school closures now took a year of schooling away from kids, did no, did nothing for them, Zoom schooling is terrible. And yet the media basically doesn't acknowledge its own role in that. doesn't acknowledge the public health authorities gave terrible advice, doesn't really question how this happened, has just moved on to the next, you know, orders given by whether it's, you know, the Biden administration or Fauci. They are all cheerleaders. And that, to me, is one of the central lessons in the book, is that you just, you can't trust, you know, even after a mistake has been made and it's obvious, you can't trust these people to go back and acknowledge that at all. But what happened? You know, I've written a book on Germany in the 30s

and trying to understand what happened there. Now, if you're a racist German hater, it's very simple. They're uniquely evil, and we don't even have to worry about that. But if you have what I call a biblical view of reality, you realize we are all messed up and we're all susceptible to certain kinds of mistakes and sins. And sometimes history has a feeling. day with that, as we saw in Germany in the 30s. What I see happening now is at least similar. In other words, it's an unprecedented level of people covering their rear ends, looking the other way,

afraid of losing cultural capital. In other words, doing whatever it takes, short of saying Heil Hitler, which Judy you want me to kill today. In other words, we're not there, but it's the same kind of dynamic where you need everyone to do his job, but most people are just thinking, I don't want to lose my job, I don't want to lose credibility. And so it falls to just the tiniest handful of people like you to do what was once considered basic five minutes ago. That's my summation of it. What do you think?

I mean, I think that's very true. Look, I think in the United States, there clearly was a recognition in the media that the pandemic was terrible for Trump, that he'd mishandled it, that his, you know, he's clearly not the most empathetic guy in the world and that that did not serve him well in this setting. That, but you're right. That doesn't explain why the rest of the world did exactly the same thing, why it shut down exactly the same way. And I think, look, I think there was a lot of fear very early on. There was fear based on, you know, some of the videos that came out of China, some of the data where in the data, you know, I think we now know we can't trust the data from

China at all. But nonetheless, that set government policy and public health policy. And really, only Sweden stood up in Europe and said, no, this shouldn't happen. We're going to take a less restrictive approach. And in the U.S., there were a few southern states, a few red states that stood up. Their governors faced tremendous blowback. I mean, I think Ron DeSantis, if I could write another book kind of just about him and how he played this, because I think he's a genuine hero. in this for, you know, even if you think he was wrong on certain details, just having the stones to stand up to the media and what he was getting from the public health establishment, I think, you know, he's somebody who was courageous and believed he understood what was going

on and was going to stand for that. But as you say, there are very, very few people in the media, in politics or any, in science, unfortunately, who are willing to do that. So are you, because I haven't really followed your question. career. Have you been vilified as somebody who is now what, a conservative? I mean, who, how are you treated today? Because if somebody said to you, who are you 15 years ago, what do your friends think of you 15 years ago, would they have described you as, you know, particularly conservative or particularly anti-establishment? What do they say now? A little bit anti-establishment, even though I worked for the time, it was obviously an establishment place. Most of my reporting was,

if you had to classify, you'd say it was sort of corporate investigative reporting. It was anti-corporate. It was, you know, here's what this company did that they don't want to tell you about. And so now, no, I think, I mean, I've lost a lot of friends. I mean, I have very few friends left from my days at the times. Yeah, they call me a conservative. They think I'm a conspiracy theorist. What's interesting to me is I have lots and lots of quiet support in the scientific and medical

communities. There are a lot of those people who reach out to me. They read what I've written. They read my substack. They're going to read Pandemia. They reach out to me. In the media, they don't read me. They just smear me. And so it's really, it's upsetting to me because I, not only, not only that my friends, I stood and believed in the New York Times. I put my life on the line to be a reporter in Iraq for the New York Times. And now, you know, my joke is it's not just that the ship has sailed, it's that it's been shot into space. You know, I will not be working for the New York Times again. Right. Well, you know, there are worse things. Let me just say, Alex, that it's good to know that there are folks like you out there. I'm sorry that there's so few of you. But the book is

brand new. It's called Pandemia, how coronavirus hysteria took over our government rights and lives. Clearly, we've just got a minute or so left, so I hope we can get you back to continue the conversation. But clearly to me, there's a kind of a cultural Marxist element here. In other words, there's something that has infected American life. It was there, but it had, it never took root in the way that it has in the last couple of years. That's what's frightening to me, that the fundamentals about freedom, about who we are as a people, those things have been shoved away. Yeah, I mean, I agree. What's happening with big tech and with censorship of technology. Unfortunately, it seems to be getting worse, not better.

You know, if you believe, I mean, Jack Dorsey and Twitter, you know, I think Dorsey actually believed in free speech at one point. And now he's leaving Twitter. And I think Twitter is going to become more suppressive in just the way that YouTube and Facebook are. And I think that's a very dangerous thing for all of us. Whatever your politics, you should want speech. Speech is one of the foundations of the United States, free speech. But let's face it, even to understand what that means, you have to have some semblance of an understanding of truth. Is there such a thing as truth? If you don't believe that, what is free speech?

It's all about power. It's all about, you know, critical theory. And that's kind of where we are right now. And it's why we find ourselves having this conversation. I'm sorry you have to go, but it's a joy at least to be introduced to you. I hope we can continue the conversation. I can't think of anything much more important to talk about. So Alex Berenson, thanks for Pandemia and thanks for your time today.

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How about that Alex Berenson? Pretty good, huh? Oh, yeah. It was short, though. We have to get him back. We have to get him back. Now, our two today we're talking to our buddy, Kevin McCullough. I don't know if we can get him in for hour one. But we've got so much stuff to communicate now that we might as well just let's let's just try to communicate it. First of all, I have to say, really heartbreaking, really heartbreaking. I heard yesterday I was shocked that Marcus Lamb has passed away. A lot of people listening wouldn't know who he is, but he was someone, he and his wife, Joni Lamb, run day star TV. I've been on their programs many times.

they're in the Dallas area. He was relatively young. I really was amazed to hear that at age 64, he passed away from COVID. I guess he had diabetic issues, but just heartbreaking. So if you know who that is, you share my grief and the grief of the Lamb family. Just had to mention that. Absolutely amazing to hear that tough news. But let's be positive for a second.

We're supposed to believe if you're any kind of a Christian, you believe Jesus defeated death. And I always want to say this because I think I was just reading yesterday where the story of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead, he asks Lazarus's sisters. He says, I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will never die. And then he says to them, do you believe this? And I thought, that is this Sunday when I preach in San Diego, I'm going to use that as my text, because that's the question. Life is hard. There's death all around us that do we believe that Jesus defeated death?

Do we believe that if we believe in him, we will never die? That's really the only question that matters in life, if you really think about it. And when I read that, it just pierced my heart when I read that line where Jesus is asking his sweet friends, Mary and Martha, do you believe this? Anyway, it's got me choked up. And so I want to say that when you hear about somebody like Marcus Lamb passing at age 64, on the one hand, it's heartbreaking and it's shocking. On the other hand, you say, wait a minute, we, those of us who believe in the God of the Bible, we believe that Jesus, Jesus actually defeated death. It's not a metaphor. It's not a nice idea. And I think we have to ask ourselves, do we really believe it? Or do we say we believe it? Or do we hope we believe it? We need to

believe it. And I think that I've been doing all these interviews around my, the new book is atheism dead. This morning I was on with Governor Huckabee. And I think this is ultimately the question. Do you believe that the Bible is true? Do you believe God is real? Do you be, you have have to really, I think that when things aren't tough, we are all able to kind of kick the can down the road on whether we really, really, really believe these things. But when things get tough, when you're facing death, when you're facing utter chaos as we are in the United States and on every level, you're forced to think, do I really believe this? And I want to encourage people that it's not an issue of whether you believe it. The issue is it is true. So,

then the question is, do you know it's true? So I didn't mean to go there. But just when I think about Joni Lamb losing Marcus at such a young age, I mean, the older you get, the more you realize, like 64, that's not the age you're supposed to die. What's going on there? So I just thought, I wanted to mention that they're just the sweetest people, privileged to know them. I was going to segue. You mentioned truth. You know, preaching on truth, do you believe? I know we're not really a news show. We're sort of a hybrid, but we don't often do news retractions.

And I wanted to bring up a totally unrelated off-topic news retraction. We got a list or email from a Tina, who's the last name I won't mention. But she wanted to know about, I guess I wasn't on the show, but you mentioned that I was off on a bike trip, Lake County. Oh, I was left all alone. This is, I don't know, a month ago, what was this? I was left all alone. you were gone. Albin was gone. Usually if Albin has has to go, you can fill in. I was all alone. And so I made up, I guess you could call it a lie, a white lie, a fib. And I said that the two of you were taking a, you were on a tandem bicycle going through the Lake District or the Cotswolds or something.

Oh, that's right. You were on a special bike tour, just the two of you working on your relationship. Now, to be clear, the Lake District, that's in United Kingdom. Is that? Yeah, England. Of course. Yeah, England. Of course. You need to take a bike trip around Massachusetts?

No, no, no. You want to go to England. Yeah. I was actually in New Jersey doing no such thing at the time, I believe. So we need to retract that because that wasn't true. Yeah, because I had made the sardine sandwiches or something that they like over there for the trip. I think you mentioned I had a parasol or something in the basket. Maybe not.

I don't remember anything. Anyway, I guess this is our confused way of telling people that we actually got a letter from a woman who believed my silly story and who really did think that the two of you were on a bike journey together working on your relationship in the Lake District in England. And, yeah, I said something that Albin had packed a picnic lunch and there were scones. and clotted cream and it was really beautiful and stuff. And of course, I was joking, but we have people who write us letters. And some of these people, they're either not listening carefully

or they don't know my sense of humor. So they really believed that the two of you, a couple of married men, on a tando bike. On a tann bike. That's the key to do, tandem bike. So you're telling me we got a letter.

Do you want to read the letter? I mean, I don't know. Well, we don't need to read it. I just want to say that I felt bad about it. And then I sent her some actual bike recommendations for the area. We're going to be right back to continue the inanity. We have real substance. Don't go away.

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In hour two, we're talking to our friend Kevin McCullough. Right now, we're talking about all kinds of stuff just amongst ourselves. Number one, we want to reiterate our, uh, our sadness at the passing of Marcus Lamb, who was the head of Daystar TV, sad news. But at the same time, I want to reiterate that we believe that Jesus defeated death on the cross. Now, if you don't believe that, that's fine. You can believe whatever you want. But I'm here to tell you it's real and why not believe it?

so because it is real. But I also want to say that we had the privilege yesterday in the studio of interviewing Kathy Lee Gifford. She has a new book out. I've known her for many years. It was a very moving, beautiful interview. And we're going to air that tomorrow, Albin. Yeah, yeah.

We're going to air it tomorrow. And by the way, folks, it's two hours. It's so great. She talks about her, the dust up that she had with Howard Stern. actually he had a problem with her. She didn't have a problem with him. And when he finally came and apologized to her in tears, you have got to hear that part. It's an amazing, beautiful story. It's a kind of thing you'd make up, except it's real. And she tells the story, it's beautiful. It's really beautiful. So that's tomorrow on this program. I also don't want to forget to mention that we're doing a fundraiser with Christian Solidarity International. Now, folks, we always. think how can we sweeten the pot? We know that you don't give to get, but we want to encourage you. There are people, all kinds of people out there with disposable income. And you're thinking, hey, what am I going to do for Christmas? Well, here's, can I give you an idea? Guys, you ready for this?

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And in the dark times in which we're living right now, to do a beautiful thing like that with an organization as reputable as it gets, CSI, metaxisstalk.com, go to the banner. That's an amazing Christmas gift to give somebody. But I want to say that we have literally two of these hats and I will sign with this pen. I will write, you know, Merry Christmas or God bless you,

Eric Metaxus with the Trump pen, okay, and two of these hats. If there's anybody out there who wants to give $2,500, you are freeing 10 slaves. Can you get this through your head, folks? That this is not a metaphor. This is real. That CSI has boots on the ground, relationships in that part of the world. They're able to really do this. So a lot of times we say, what can I do? This is so huge. You can do this? Yeah. Can I tap in here? That's the first two. people that give $2,500 because there are only two hats. So you have to be the first two. You can also call a number. If you're not online, you can call a number 888-253-352. Call it right now with

$2,500. The first two people get the hat signed by Eric with Donald, the President Donald Trump's pen on President Trump's MAGA hat. Two people right away. Yeah, I mean, I've only got the two. These, I can buy these hats, but these are the hats that President Trump gave to me when I was at the Bedminster Country Club with our friend, Sean Foyt, and we videotaped the president. The president gave me these two hats. So these are from his hand to my hands, to your hands. He also let me keep the pen that he used to sign the other hats. So I will sign these hats. I will sign my own name just to keep things legal. But I really want to say, folks, that this is an amazing opportunity to be able to do something,

super positive, super, super positive. There are people in Sudan whose lives depend on us, and you can do that. So go to metaxis talk.com. Alvin, do you want to read the number again? I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. The number is 888-253. 3522. You know, it's a big topic in this country about slavery. That was 150 years ago here in this

country. It was abolished. But it's still going on today. So if you really want to do something, really, not just signal. If you're into the Black Lives Matter movement, this is like, hey, this is reality. This is not just Marxist fake talk. This is reality. So we want you to go to CSI, go to the banner, metaxis talk.com. Honestly, I want to say it again, this is an outrageous Christmas gift to give somebody. You say, what can I give so-and-so? They don't need anything. If you tell them that I've given $250 and we have freed a slave in your name and we've set them up in a life,

I mean, folks, if you think about this, you get very choked up. This is real. So I want to encourage you to do something really beautiful. And I want to say it again that we have literally two hats given to me by the president. I have the pen given to me by the president. and I will sign these two hats, $2,500 if you give your freeing 10 people, which is infinitely more significant than anything else, plus you'll get, but you'll get these hats. Okay, we're going to be right back.

Lots more to cover. We'll have Kevin McCullough coming up any minute. Don't go away. Oh, wow. What's going on? Yeah, man. Can you guys see behind me? That's Mike Lindell.

That's not really Mike Lindell. No, he's behind me. That's the real Mike Lindell behind me. It's since we've been knocked off of YouTube, nobody can see us anyway. But we are on TV every day. Hey, Eric, I was just going to mention something. I was sorry to cut you off. In the last segment, you mentioned we're living in Dark Times.

I took my kid to the Macy's Meet Santa thing here in the city, Harold Square. I didn't read the fine print, but apparently it's sponsored by Pfizer this year. and the Santa at the end, he vaccinated my child against his will. It was very surprising, pulled out of a shot. Wow. Instead of a lot. Instead of a lollipop, right? Yeah, so just make sure to avoid any Pfizer meet Santa events in your town near you because.

You know, by the way, that somebody stole my great idea. You know the Johnny Pape check song? You can take this job and shove it. I ain't a work and hear no more. You know that song. Sure. I came up with the idea if you can take this jab and shove it.

Somebody actually recorded that song. That's great. Well, you know, sometimes the good ideas are out there in the ether, you know. Well, but it just kind of cracked me up because I thought, you know, it's, okay, listen. Well, the comedy's on our side of the aisle. You know, the conservatives are out there. Correct.

And fun. Okay. Let me just say this before we run out of time here, folks. To sum up, we're going through dark times. But I believe that God wants us to do good things in the midst of the darkness, light a candle instead of cursing the darkness. We, every year, do a fundraiser with CSI. There are people being enslaved in the Sudan, people who have been enslaved.

I'm going to the details. Kevin McCullough and I will get into the details in the next hour. but we can do something about it. And I keep thinking, when you think of somebody that you think, what do I get them for Christmas? For $250. Now, by the way, we want to encourage everybody to give something. But for $250, if that's a number that you can give, you can free a slave. And you don't just free a slave.

You are actually setting them up in a life. They get a goat. They get food stuffs. They get all kinds of stuff so that they can have a love. life once they are redeemed from slavery. So this is a huge thing. You can do it in somebody's name. And I want to encourage you, folks, when I think of all the junk that we waste our money on,

this is something really beautiful. It's just hard to believe that we have the privilege in our lifetimes of participating in something like this. So if you want to give somebody an amazing gift, go to metaxistocococ.com, click on the banner. whatever you give is fantastic. But if you can give $250, that enables CSI to get someone out of literal slavery and set them up in a wonderful life. It's just, it's an amazing thing. And I think that, as I say, we always ask, what can I do?

What can I do? Any positive thing like this is spiritual warfare. You are waging war against the evil in this world when you do something beautiful out of the goodness of your heart do that. I also want to say, while supplies last, Albin, there are two. I have two hats given to me by President Donald Trump. They're the standard Make America Great Again hats. They were given to me by the president. So I didn't buy these. They were given to me when I was with him and Sean Foyt some months ago. He also gave me the pen that he used to sign the other hats. Anybody who can give $2,500 that frees 10 slaves,

If you can do that, I will sign one of these hats to you. There are only two of them. So obviously the first two people who do this. But go to metaxistalkisTalk.com. Email us if you need more information. This is important stuff, very important stuff. I want to encourage everybody, please get involved in this. Get your kids involved in this.

Go to metaxistalk.com. Thanks for listening.