The Eric Metaxas Show - Amanda Grace

Episode Date: April 6, 2025

Friend of the program Amanda Grace joins to discuss er brand new book The Revelationary War: The Epic Battle Against False Prophecy and Deception.  https://www.amazon.com/Revelationary-War-Agains...t-Prophecy-Deception/dp/163641432X

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Starting point is 00:01:02 And pretty soon it'll be April 6th. And, you know, it's crazy. But that's right now, we're just going to hang out to the idea that it's April 4th. It's Friday. A couple of things I want to say. I want to talk more about a number of things we've been touching on. But before that, I want to remind folks of the website, goisrael.com. Goisrael.com. Everybody will tell you if they have been to the Holy Land that it's a life-changing experience. I've heard this to the point where I got tired of it. I was like, would you stop? It can't be a light. to every single person who goes again. It's kind of weird because it's true.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And everybody says it. To go to the places where it all happened, in fact, literally yesterday when I was with Dinesh D'Souza and we were talking as he was interviewing me for his upcoming film, I spoke about that. I said that when I was writing my book, is atheism dead? I was looking into these places that when you actually,
Starting point is 00:02:08 actually look into it and you see the place and you see the stones where you say Jesus was here. This is the pool of Salome. And this is that it is absolutely life-changing. So, you know, obviously travel to Israel right now is not exactly easy. But in the months ahead, you've got to think about it. I know I'm going to go back. I want to do some filming there on some of the projects we're talking about. So the website is go israel.com, go israel.com.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I also want to remind you of our friends at the Herzog Foundation. If you are thinking, I guess the question is, with all that has happened in the recent years, are you rethinking where you want to send your kid to school or your grandkid? Are you thinking about home schooling? Does the school to which you send your kids support your values? Now, I always have to say that that's the whole idea of school, right? People forget, they act like, well, I don't have that much power. The government has power and I send my kids to the school and they're going to tell my kid.
Starting point is 00:03:15 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You get to teach your kid whatever you want and you get to hire teachers or send the kid to teachers who are going to support what you want to teach your kids. So wherever we got that idea that, well, I'm not an expert, yeah, that's why you're qualified because you're not a Marxist, woke expert. You actually believe in common sense and truth and that America is a good country and the Bible is true. You actually believe in that stuff
Starting point is 00:03:43 and you want to build the world around what you know to be true and you want that for your kids or you should want that for your kids. So one of the greatest resources you could possibly imagine is our friends at the Herzog Foundation. You can go to herzogfoundation.com. Herzog Foundation.com. I recommend it highly if you're thinking about education.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Herdsog Foundation.com. They're a foundation. They're there to help you. Herzog Foundation.com. Okay, we should also mention our friend Mike Lindell. Okay, the other day, we have right now an insane sale at my store.com. I went there and I lowered a bunch of the prices because I said, I want to be able to say to people that there are some huge bargains on my books at my store.com.
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Starting point is 00:04:56 The price at my... MyStore.com with the code Eric is $30 for all three. The Uncle Mugsy book, Yankee Doodle Mugsy, the birthday, the birthday ABC book, all these books are like $10. I mean, it's insane. You got to use code Eric, my store.com. The birthday ABC book, just to tell you what a great price that is, because it's a gorgeous book.
Starting point is 00:05:22 You'd expect it to cost $25 or $30. When you see it, you'll see what I mean. and it's the perfect birthday gift for adults, for kids. It's just that kind of, it's a classic book because it's illustrated by Tim Raglan. I wrote the verse, the poems. That is $10. So just to let you know that I'm not making this up, yesterday I came home from Colorado. I have ordered five copies of my own book from my store.com.
Starting point is 00:05:49 That's how good the price is. That it's, if I want a copy of my own book, I will order it from my store.com. use the code Eric. I just did that the other day. I got the books yesterday. I looked at them. I said to Suzanne, look how beautiful this book is. It's just a gorgeous gift. $10 with the code Eric at my store.com. So I'm not making this up. But I do have to say, and I don't have it here to show on camera. But if you go to my store, like when I saw this, I was like, I'm ordering several of these. They have, like, you know that honey bear that you can order, like there's honey, right? They have one.
Starting point is 00:06:26 it's a little bigger in the shape of Donald Trump. And it says, make honey great again. Oh, my gosh. It's so funny. I used it last night already. I used it. But I think it's on the front page of my store.com. But it is absolutely so hilarious.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I just said, I have to get this. So it's like, it's like the honey bear container, but it's in the shape of Trump. And it says, make honey great again. Anyway, if you get that, use the code, Eric. Anyway, I just, I'll never stop laughing. Every time I use honey, I will just die. Because it's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:07:11 All right. So we were talking about a lot of stuff. One crazy thing I'll say, now we have Amanda Grace coming up in a couple of minutes. But I wanted to say before we bring Amanda Grace on, I don't know if you guys if this ever happens to you. When we were in Aspen, we were just having a crazy conversation over dinner. And somebody, our friend Leslie Wilson, brought up something about the love boat. Oh, yeah, it's like the love boat.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And I said, oh, the love boat, Captain Stubing, that's Gavin McLeod. He played Murray and Mary Tyler Moore, you know, on the Mary Tyler Moore show. He was Captain Stubing on Love Boat. And I met him at Redeemer 20 years. ago, he is a born-again believer. He's passed away, but he was a born-again Christian, Gavin McLeod. I said, and the best thing he's ever done is a film, 1967 film, I think it was directed by Blake Edwards, called The Party with Peter Sellers. It's an insane 1967, 60s kind of crazy film. The whole thing was improv. Peter Sellers was like genius. And so it's one of my favorite films.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And Gavin McLeod was in that. So I'm sharing this with, you know, my wife and daughter, Leslie and saying, oh, and who else stars in that film? Claudine Lange. And who's Claudine Lange. Claudine Lange, was married to Andy Williams, the singer. They got divorced. She lived in Aspen where we happened to be. I didn't even know this when I'm telling the story.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And she killed her boyfriend who was a, like, world-class skier. Spider Savage was his name, some French skier and some weird happened and she came she got off. It was this crazy insane story. And Suzanne says to me, Eric, Claudine Lange, she lived right here in Aspen. I was like, what? Like, are you serious? Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:09:12 So I immediately go to my phone. I go to Duck, Duck, Go, because I don't use Google. Yeah. And I look up Claudine and Langeet, where does she live now? She's 83 years old. She lives in Aspen. Unreal. So we spent the next 24 hours looking around, looking around, are we going to
Starting point is 00:09:26 see Claudine Lange, are we going to see? I know no one cares, but hold on. I don't care that you don't care. But wasn't she married to Bert Baccarac? Are you sure it was Andy Williams? Andy Williams, yeah. Okay. Even though they were divorced, they had kids
Starting point is 00:09:42 together and he appeared at the trial with her every day. Wow. And she got off. It's like a weird thing, because it's pretty obvious that this was one of those insane things where some, you know, in a moment of passion, she she kills, you know, her boyfriend, probably he was, you know, he was younger, good-looking,
Starting point is 00:10:03 she was jealous. I don't know. She's now 83 years old. She was living in Athens, in Aspen. And I was so disappointed. I didn't get to see her. I know no one cares about this, but the beauty is I don't, I don't care that you don't care.
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Starting point is 00:12:21 Folks, welcome back. As promised, my friend Amanda Grace is on the program. Amanda, welcome back. And congratulations on your brand new book, The Revelationalational, the Revelationary War. Yes. You understand revolutionary is pronounced differently. You know that, right? Yes, 100%. I know that. intentional on your part. You vary. The revelationary war. So, you know, I always get to ask like the simplest questions because I want my audience to understand.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Sure. So, you know, what is the revelationary war about? Why did you write the revelationary war? Okay. So I'm going to give you the backstory very fast on how this book came to be. So charisma, a couple of years ago, came to me and wanted me to write a book about my life. Okay, charisma is the publisher. The publisher, yes, wanted me to write a book about my life. But the Lord said to me, it's not time to write a book about your life. So, unbeknownst to me,
Starting point is 00:13:36 the Lord is saying the same thing to miss Joy, Steve Strang's wife. It's not time for Amanda to write a book about her life. She has to write a book about prophecy. Let's be clear, since most people don't know this stuff. Charisma is run by our friend's Stephen Strang. And so you're saying that Stephen's wife, Joy, also said, now is not the time for Amanda to write the story of her life. Because the story of your life, you've told it on this program more than once. It's an amazing story. So you really should write that story, in my opinion, as soon as possible. But whatever, if the Lord told you different, then he told you different. So, yeah, keep going. Okay. So she's hearing the same thing, unbeknownst to me. So then.
Starting point is 00:14:21 last year about March of 2024. Well, what happened was seven months prior to that, we have to go back to late 2023. We have a pastor friend, Pastor Rick, who's in Texas, who does our intercessory prayer, and he's prophetic in his own right. So he has a dream. And he says, Amanda, you were on stage and I was there, and you called somebody out of the audience and told them they were to write the Revelationary War.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I said, well, write it up to me and I'll send it to this person. So I did. I took the write up from Rick. And Rick doesn't say these things unless he knows it's from the Lord. He's very strict in those parameters. And so I send it to that person and I forget about the whole thing. I have to say I'm now, I'm a little confused. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:09 You were at an event at the end of 2023 and you were on the stage. This was a dream. Yes. No, this was a dream Rick had. So Pastor Rick had a dream towards the end of 2023 where I was on a stage. stage and I called somebody out who's in ministry and I told them they were to write the book, The Revelationary War. So what happens is.
Starting point is 00:15:30 But just to be clear, in the dream, so he's having a dream. Yes. And he comes up with, he says in the dream, you spoke this title, the Revelationary War, in the dream. Yes. I spoke the title in the dream. Yeah. And I have him write up the dream and I send it to this person.
Starting point is 00:15:51 who was called out in the dream that was supposed to write the book. And I forget about it. Seven months later, Pastor Rick has another dream. And the Lord comes to him in the dream and says, why will man not do what I tell them to do? So now I'm going to a woman. And I want Amanda to write this book. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So I want my audience to get this. And if it's hard for me, I'm sure there are people who miss this. Because it's so interesting. Yeah. Rick has a dream. Yes. In late 2023, in the dream, he sees you on a stage and that you're telling somebody in ministry that they need to write the book, the Revelationary War. After he has the dream, he tells you about the dream. And then he tells you, this is in reality, not in a dream. You need to write to this person, this real person, and tell them they need to write this book, that God wants them to write this book. And you do this. I do this. I obey. He writes it up for me. I tell him right up the dream and I am going to send it. So I did that. I did my part and I sent it and I forgot about it. And I moved on. And seven months later, the Lord comes to Pastor Rick in a dream and says, why will man not do what I tell them to do? So now I'm going to a woman. And I want Amanda to write this book, The Revelationary War. And I want her to ask Donne Clement to contribute to this book. And if she says no, Amanda is to write. write it anyway. That was the instructions. So then Rick comes back to me. I know, he comes back to me with this and I went, oh, boy. So obviously, can you say Rick's last name or you want to keep that private? Yeah, I could say Robertson. Okay. So Pastor Rick Robertson tells us to you. And you,
Starting point is 00:17:43 you know, you're a woman of discernment. So you believe this really is the Lord speaking. And you you decide to do this. And so you went to, now this is Kim Clements' daughter, you said. Is that who you just mentioned? Yes, prophet Kim Clemens' daughter. Yes, I went to Dane and she like leapt in her spirit when she heard it. She just was like immediately,
Starting point is 00:18:07 yes, I will do this. And then as the Lord's giving me confirmation of all this, because the Lord did give me confirmation, I was supposed to do this. I go back to charisma and I say, let me tell you what is now transpired. the past seven months. And when I tell them start to finish, they said, we have to pray right now because this book has to be written. And we did. We all prayed right there. We stopped the meeting and prayed. I, uh, this stuff sounds so crazy, except I know it ain't. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So this is like the backstory. So then what is the book, the Revelationary War, uh, about. I mean, I know what it's about, but tell my audience. Okay. So basically what this book is about is there is an epic battle that has raged through the generations having to do with false prophecy and deception and with Satan putting forth his revelations, trying to counter the true revelations and the truth that comes from Almighty God. And the first shot fired against man for this war was at the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden when the serpent has that exchange with Eve and gets her to believe his revelation over. God's revelation. And that was the first shot that was fired. And it has raged through the generations.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And right now it has reached a feverish pitch with what we have just gone through as a nation. So I go through as well decades of prophecy in this book having to do with this nation and the earth and what has just happened. So we have reached now a feverish pitch in this war that believers have to be very aware of. They have to be sharpened to. They have to be sensitive to because they the enemy and his devices and his army are out in a rageful, vengeful campaign right now. It's interesting because I think most people would agree that that's true. You can see it. I was talking earlier that I was with Dinesh D'Souzi yesterday talking about this very thing,
Starting point is 00:20:09 that the evil has come out. The evilness of evil is more obvious because for a long time, you know, you and I both know that Satan would prefer to hide. He would prefer a demon wants to hide. He doesn't want to say, oh, I'm a demon here. He wants to hide. But when he's forced to come out, which he doesn't want to do, he becomes, you know, more ferocious and threatening and, you know, and we're seeing that being played out in culture now. The level of evil that we're seeing, we've never seen anything like this. It's like, where did this come from? Lunacy, satanic lunacy. that it was hidden all these decades.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It was there. It was operating, but it was able to get away with being hidden. And now, for whatever reason, I think it's the Lord's mercy, it's been forced out. And most people can see it and say,
Starting point is 00:21:07 wait a minute, that's insane. You know, so for years you send your kid to public school and you figured, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:14 it might not be exactly what I want, but it's pretty much, it'll be a guy. And then you find out, they're teaching them what? They're teaching them Marxist, insanity. They're teaching them transgender stuff. Like really demonic stuff. It's kind of come out more and more and more and more. So keep going. So basically, in this book, we first develop a
Starting point is 00:21:33 biblical basis for this. What is truth? What is prophecy? What is true prophecy? What is false prophecy? And I go biblically through different accounts, including with King Jehoshaphat and Ahab and the 400 prophets that were bought and paid for by Ahab's government versus my Ikea, who was the one true prophetic voice in that moment, and I go through that account. And I build it up to today where I wrote this book back in June. So I wrote this book before the election. I wrote this book, you know, before the events of this nation. And I go through the great divide that God is purposely dropping a plum line in this time. We are seeing the greatest divide between the shepherds and the showmen that we have seen in the church, because this war is
Starting point is 00:22:17 greatly affecting the church. And so God has dropped a plumb line in this time, dividing the true shepherds from the showmen and what that is and what that looks like. The true shepherds from the showman. Another word, the showman, you mean obviously false shepherds, shepherds that are kind of selling whatever, smoke and mirrors or selling their brand or selling whatever they want to sell to get people into their church or clicks or whatever it is. versus real shepherds. All right, when we come back, folks, we're talking to Amanda Grace.
Starting point is 00:22:52 The brand new book is The Revelationary War. The Revelationary War by Amanda Grace. We'll be right back. Folks, welcome back talking to Amanda Grace. Not her real name. Sort of it. Sort of it is your real name. It is my real name.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Grace is my middle name. Grace is my actual middle name. My last name is Wagner, but I don't look like a Wagner. Let's be honest. No one looks like a Wagner. but I know I know your husband
Starting point is 00:23:39 I know that's Mr. Wagner you're Mrs. Wagner but your stage name so to speak is Amanda so Amanda you've written this book called the Revelationary War give us some more examples
Starting point is 00:23:49 of you know when you just said that we're seeing a division between shepherds and showmen you mean in the church I mean can you speak specifically are you able to do that
Starting point is 00:24:02 well I could speak to it specifically yes because this account goes back biblically to the Simon the Sorcerers versus the Phillips. You see, so this has, this has layers to it. And so we are seeing right now the Lord drop a plum line because we have seen those come out posing as shepherds who are really showmen, who are coming out not only with smoke and mirrors, but they're bringing the people of God down to lukewarm, stripping them of their arm, of their armor, twisting the doctrine biblically and getting people to believe a false doctrine
Starting point is 00:24:43 that leads them down a road to perdition. Now, what do you mean specifically? What kind of a false doctrine? Do you mean with regard to sexuality? Yes. Yeah, all of that. So with regard to sexuality, with regard to gender, with regard to abortion, with regard to incubating sin and helping sin to grow and making people feel good in their sense.
Starting point is 00:25:05 rather than what the church is supposed to do. It's supposed to be a hospital for the sick, the spiritually sick. It's supposed to be a place where people are convicted and sin is purged. It's not supposed to be a place we're constantly entertained. It's supposed to be a place where we are provoked
Starting point is 00:25:21 to look within ourselves and be convicted by the ever-present, you know, living, active word of God that is transformative to transform people's lives and cause them to be a person. a new creation in Christ. And you have these, you know, these showmen that have arisen that are entertaining the people more than they're ever feeding them. And that's why we're seeing more and more issues in the church come in from the world. We're watching the wolves and the serpents come to
Starting point is 00:25:52 the pulpit, wrap around the pulpit, spew their doctrine because of the amount of deception that the enemy has been able to get into the church. And we are entering a time right now, where the Axe Church is going to return. The Acts Church, the firiness of the Holy Ghost is going to return. Now, when you say that, I have a sense of that in my spirit that that is right. What do you see? I mean, do you see evidence yet? When is that coming?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Because I do have a sense, and I can't, this is not something I can prove, but I do have a sense that we're going to see an increase in the miraculous, and that that's going to bring many people to faith. I 100% agree with you. This is where we are headed. And for that to happen, there has to be a righteous cleansing in the church. You know, when we cry out to God to judge our government and we cry out to him to judge the nations, do we not think he's going to come and inspect his house?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Do we not think he's not going to come and do an inspection if his people are asking him to cleanse all these things when we're supposed to be the standard in the nation? being raised right now, being that voice in the wilderness, saying, prepare you the way of the Lord, he's going to come and inspect his house. So the great divide between the shepherds and the showmen, right, and separating the truth from the lie, the wheat from the tear, the sheep from the goats, is very intentional in order to bring forth what you said, the miraculous and the firiness of the Holy Ghost and this axe type of church coming back to this nation. What I keep wondering is there have been all these scandals in the last, I don't know, two years.
Starting point is 00:27:36 It has just blown me away. Some of these people I have known, and I have been, and I've tried to be forthright about this on the program where I sometimes don't know what to think on a number of levels. Like you kind of hear all these accusations and you think, well, if any of that's true, that's bad. But it sounds like half of it is lies or half of it is people who just want to bring down the ministry or whatever, which doesn't change the underlying guilt. But it is a stunning thing that names that we could just tick off many names. And I've heard two sides to most of these stories, but none of it is good. And I confess that I am perplexed, you know, because it's easy to say, you know, judgment starts in the house. of God and God is judging whatever. And listen, I hope so, but it's also dismaying because you see
Starting point is 00:28:35 people that you know are bad trying to take down ministries. It's a weird thing. The only way I guess I can make sense of it is to say that if you remove God's protection, then the Assyrians can be be used by God, right? In other words, it's not like God is pro-Assyrian, but it's like you remove protection of God and the enemies come in. And these are, you know, people that are happy to see ministries and churches go down in flames. And so it's, it's just been, I say this, frankly, it's been confusing for me, hard for me to understand. Yes. And I understand that because, you know, we're watching one after the other. And yes, there are organizations who are well-funded by people that hate God to try to take down ministries. That is a fact. That is going on. And then on the other
Starting point is 00:29:32 side, you actually have the Lord doing a, in a way, a righteous cleansing because, and this is what I say about the Lord, the Lord will come to somebody privately many times to try to get them to course correct before anything ever publicly happens. He will come to you privately and he will come to you privately and he will be that loving father because he chastises those he loves before he ever, ever does anything public. And so when we're watching this happen, we really have to take it to the Lord
Starting point is 00:30:05 and pray for the discernment of where the waters are getting muddied. Forgive me. We're at a time in this segment. We'll be right back. Back, folks. I'm talking to Amanda Grace, who has written a new book,
Starting point is 00:30:28 The Revelationary War. Amanda, is this your first book? book? Yes. It is. That's a big deal. Praise the Lord. I remember when I wrote my first book, I was eight years old. Just kidding. No, I wrote my first book. Actually, I didn't really start writing book books, you know, until about 20, actually 20 years ago. My first book came out. But I wrote a lot of children's books before that. But it's a big deal when you write your first book. So congratulations
Starting point is 00:30:58 on the new book, your first book, the Revelationary. war. And I want to talk to you more about what's in the book, because we both feel that we're going through a dramatically historic period right now. What we're seeing in our government, in our nation, in the world. I mean, they want to imprison Marine Le Pen, who was going to be the president of France. The polls said she's going to be the new president of France, and the deep state of France, the globalist monsters are attacking it. seeing this all around the world. So it's like we're seeing, you know, birth pangs to use the term. Something is happening. We are in a war, but it's more open warfare than it's ever been. And that's
Starting point is 00:31:44 in the natural realm in the world of politics and government. But at the heart of it is something spiritual. So what do you see happening? Where do you see it going? Okay. So we have seen a lot happened. So on the Jewish calendar, I'm going to say this, we entered PORM, March 13th and 14, having to do with the book of Esther, right, and the divine reversal of God when there was a decree of destruction against his people. And we entered a 30-day window to Passover. And we have seen very interesting events happen. In fact, Trump Tower was stormed on Passover by protesters operating in the spirit of Amalek, which is the same line Haman came from, who tried to destroy the people of God in Esther. So you're right. There are definitely very dark, ancient spiritual
Starting point is 00:32:29 forces at work right now that are going into the nations. And in fact, I have a chapter in this book called The Battle for the Soul of the Nation. And it goes into what we went through as a nation and goes back decades of prophecy, prophetically connecting to show people how we went through this war, how we went through this battle for the soul of the nation, and what happened from there. We are watching the same thing happens. Give me an example, since we have a few minutes here. I want to hear some of this because I'm fascinated. I know my audience probably does.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Okay. So I go back as well to around the time of 2008. And 2008 was a Shmita year. Shmita year happens every seven years on the Jewish calendar. It takes seven Shmitas to make a Jubilee, the 50th year. 2008 was a shmita year. And we had the 2008 banking crisis that happened. And when that happened, it shifted the nation.
Starting point is 00:33:34 You saw a burning Bush coming out of office. And you saw Barack Obama coming into office. Why do you refer to George W. Bush as a burning Bush coming out of office? Well, it's sort of a play on words because when George Bush came into office, right? 2001 was a schmita year when 9-11 happened right and there you see sort of symbolically right a burning bush in a way symbolically speaking and then him exiting office the banking crisis happens on a schmita year so his presidency was flanked in a way by plagues or whatever you want to call them financial plagues you know, attacks, you know, plots from within,
Starting point is 00:34:25 they were flanked, prophetically speaking, that presidency in that. And that's when the nation began to turn down a dark road, is when... There's no doubt. When Obama came in, it's like something profound shifted. It was no longer business as usual. And we've been in a, like an open.
Starting point is 00:34:50 crisis since then? We have been. It basically opened a door in a way that was locked till then. I go back farther than that. I even go back to when prayer was taken out of schools and the covering was ripped off the nation in the early 1960s and a year later, JFK was assassinated.
Starting point is 00:35:11 A year after the prayer was ripped out of schools across the nation, the shepherd of the nation at that time, time was assassinated because a gate was opened that had remained covered and locked. And the covering of prayer was ripped off the nation. And you saw then the shepherd what happened from dark forces within that were allowed to operate in such a way. And that really was a new era, I'm going to say, in the United States of America. When that happened, we entered a new era of warfare from within the likes of which we hadn't seen really until that point.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And it progressed from there. It went downhill from there. So it was like a rapid descent, right, over the past 50 plus years leading to where we got to. There are people who, I know it's challenging for people sometimes to buy this stuff, and it's been challenging for me. But it's obvious that what we now call the deep state, murdered JFK. murdered him. It's absolutely right. It's now obvious to me, thanks to our friend Roger Stone, that the deep state took out Nixon. The story, the standard story is garbage. Border game.
Starting point is 00:36:30 The deep state took out Nixon. It's not the story that you believe. The deep state tried to take out Ronald Reagan, even his assassination. Again, this is the realm of conspiracy theory, unless it's true. And I've become convinced that it's true. So you have that happening. And on and on and on. And we've been going along with this narrative that has been, been lies, and it is now being exposed by the grace of God. It's being exposed. We're finding out the just infinite corruption in our own system that has been there. You can mark it since 1963, the year I was born. You can see it becomes finally out in the open now. We're seeing it. So that must give you hope. Well, it does. It does give me hope because when the enemy finally comes out of
Starting point is 00:37:17 hiding, he exposes himself a lot easier. The goal of the enemy is to hide and do his work, so you cannot get a feel for where the shots are coming from. He's now been drawn out in the open by God to expose where the warfare is coming from, the direction, the shots, the intention of it. And so, you know, being that we had a very biblical election in 2024, very biblical election. And I wrote this book before the election. And I wrote this book knowing that President Trump was going to win. And so when we saw that. I knew he was going to win too. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt. I didn't think it would have been taken, you know, weeks and months of legal challenges or riots, but by the grace of God, that didn't happen. We'll be right back talking to
Starting point is 00:38:10 Amanda Grace. The new book is The Revelationary War. Folks talking to Amanda Grace, brand new book, the revelationary war, all this stuff is in it. So Amanda, now the devil has come out in the open. It's obvious. Where do you see this going from here on? Okay, so the next, okay, the first two years of this presidency, I'm going to tell you this, is marked on PORM by a blood moon. PORM this past year and PORM next year are both marked by blood moons, which is basically President Trump's first year in office. And the, God has given the church a window in the year 5785, right? Five having to do with an announcement.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It means, hey, in Hebrew, that's the Hebrew letter. Like, it's also grace. It has to do with grace. So a year flanked by grace. It is also a year, though, that the church has to get in order and not do what we did in 2016, 2017, and 2018, and then a plague at the earth. The church has to be the standard these next four years. has to raise up and actually be that fiery voice of truth.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And I will tell you why. Because who they are grooming for 2028 may make Obama look like a drop in the bucket. They are grooming those right now that are darker, that are more sinister, that are, in a way, a greater puppet for them, a charismatic puppet for 2028. And let me tell you why 2028 is so important. And the church needs to be the army of the living God right now and war in this nation. 2028 is a cataclysmic year. And I'm going to tell you why. It is our next election year.
Starting point is 00:40:10 2028 is the next schmita year. The schmita year begins our election year in 2020. 2028 is also the next Jewish leap year, which means there are two porums in 2028. There are double porums. There's little porum, which is porum katan, and there's regular porum. And these are all clashing together in 2028, which has to do with a double reversal as well. And we have the Olympics coming to our soil on an election year in California in 28 as well. This is a cataclysmic year where the church has to do their job now to stop the all.
Starting point is 00:40:52 onslaught of evil and a gate from being opened that would bring a horrendous darkness into the United States of America. And so double porum, double divine reversal, which means double decrees of destruction are going to go out against the people of God. So this is why we have to be prepared and ready now. And we have to also pray for President Trump in covering because within the first two years, they're going to try an Esther chapter two moment from within. They are. And so Esther chapter two has to do with the king's own guards attempting to remove him from power. And so we have to intercede and pray for that as well. But if we as the church over the next four years do our job, it is going to stop what they are already planning for 2028 in order for them to open
Starting point is 00:41:49 a very dark door in 2030. So this is why I'm sounding the alarm now. Do you, we just have 30 seconds left. What do you think is going to happen? What do I think is going to happen? Well, I do believe that we are going to see another very biblical, historic election year that is going to be even more perplexing than the one we've seen in 28.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Unbelievable. Wow. Well, I wish we had more time. The book is The Revelationary War by Amanda Grace, the Revelationary War. Congratulations, Amanda. All glory goes to God. God bless you. Thank you. It's always fun to talk to you on or off the air. So folks, get a copy of the Revelationary War. Amanda Grace. Thank you, sister. Thank you.

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