The Eric Metaxas Show - Amanda Grace (continued)

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

Amanda Grace continues her interview about prophetic visions and surviving childhood diseases; she is joined by her husband Chris who miraculously survived brain surgery.

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Did you guess? I'm guessing. That's just my way of saying, I don't know what time it is. Can somebody tell me? No, actually, I don't really mean it in that sense. What I mean is it's that time of week, ladies and gentlemen, it's the beginning of hour two on Thursday, which is to say it's when we do our now infamous Ask Metaxus segment.

That's when folks write into us with questions. Some of them are kooky. some of them are banal. Others are very banal. Others are very kooky. Some of them are insightful. Some of them are non-insightful. Every kind of question. I've got a question. What's banal mean? For example, that question itself, depending on who's asking it and to whom could be a banal question. So let's start and find out what kind of, ladies and gentlemen, what kind of question is question number one? Almond, I'm going to leave it to you. They've got a good batch of them.

Here's number one, though. If you could go back in time to 1582, would you advise Pope Gregory the 13th to arrange his calendar differently? For instance, wouldn't it have been better if he had been guided to make February normally 30 days long instead of 28 so that the cold, dark days of January and the hot muggy days of July could each be only 30 days long instead of 31. Okay, that's a kind of question that just crosses your eyes. Yes, it does.

Because unless you're familiar with what the questioner is asking, which I am generally not. In other words, I know enough to have a sense. But I, this is like one of these things. If we had the budget for a research staff, I would have somebody kind of, you know, help me with this one. But I think this is something that what we ought to do, actually, is we ought to do some research on this and then do this again next week when I'll have something more interesting to say about it.

Because the idea of changing the calendar yesterday was Washington's birthday. Okay. Now, I want to tell you, Washington's birthday is February, 22nd. But they changed, somebody changed the calendar, and I don't remember the details so that according to the old calendar, his birthday was on a different day. Like when people say stuff like that, it's so confusing. Yeah.

Because you feel like calendars, that's like, it's like box scores. It's like the periodic table. It cannot be changed. But obviously, we need to do this. Maybe next week, I will have something to say. this because it really brings up major, major issues. Like, you know, we have Lent coming up. I mentioned Lent is different for Orthodox Christians versus Catholics and Protestants.

And, you know, that alone is incredibly confusing. How do we figure out when Easter begins? And what does the Gregorian calendar say and what does the Julian calendar say? So it's a little complicated. That's what this question is referring to. Gregorian calendar. As long as they don't change February 2nd from Groundhog Day, because then somebody will have to tell Bill Murray and they'll have to cancel the movie and a blub, blah, blah. It really gets complicated. It does. Let's get on the question number two before we go crazy. Wouldn't it be

great if there was an online list showing churches whose leaders have read your book, Eric, and are now dedicated to help motivate and lead us in ways to help save our nation and our children, churches that encourage us to gather for a cause. We have small groups for support for various issues, but none that are bold enough to be proactive. You know, I get this a lot when I go places, or people even email me on my website, like, do you know of a good church in my area?

And I don't know how we would do this. Maybe somebody listening, we appeal to the hive mind, to the radio audience. maybe someone listening has an idea, not just a vague idea, but an actual idea about how one might go about this. Because I think, in other words, if your pastor could get behind my book letter to the American church and say, yes, I agree with what it says, yes, we want to teach this in our small groups, yes, we're this kind of a church. I would love a list of those churches myself. I'd love to know. So why don't we start here? If you have a pastor or a church that would agree with that and that say we're all about this, that we're not shrinking from talking about the political or the cultural,

we're not afraid of being divisive if what the Bible says leads us to be publicly against slavery or abortion or transgender madness ideology or whatever these things are. If you have that kind of a church, let us know, send us all the information you can. Maybe we would compile a list because there are people around the country wherever I go who ask me this question. So that's a valuable question. But I would need your help, your help, meaning those of you who are listening right now. So if you have a pastor that has read my book and says, yes, we're this kind of a church, I would be really happy to send people to these churches because people are hungry. They just don't know where to go. So that is actually, turns out to be a really great question, especially if people listening would tell me. And by the way, if you're going

to a church where the pastor aggressively thinks that what I say in my book is wrong, I would leave that church. I think we are in a battle right now and we cannot afford to kind of fool around. Here's a quick question, quick answer. How do I sign up for your news live? Go to Eric Mataxis.com. Something will pop right up. And it's actually very important to me that everybody sign up for the newsletter. So just go to Ericmataksis.com. Okay. Number four, what do you think about Biden visiting Ukraine before Ohio or before the border? Our border. I think Biden is a fake president. I think everything he does is textbook disaster, not just wrong, but utterly disastrous. and the fact that he hasn't gone to the border is utterly shameful, utterly shameful and despicable, and the fact that he nominated his fake vice president to be in charge of the border.

I mean, it is an insult to the intelligence of the miracle people. It's like the state-sponsored lying of North Korea, where they say things and everybody just goes, okay, no matter how crazy it is, the dear leader says, you know, pronounced Wednesday is now Thursday, whatever it is that this administration says or does is almost by definition utterly disastrous and foolish. So it seems increasingly obvious that the war in Ukraine, our involvement in it is horrible, and that this president is leading us to the brink, if not, beyond the brink of World War III. That's all.

That's what happens when you allow a bumbling career hack politician to enter the White House. Lives are affected. People die. What's going in in Ohio. Pete Buttigieg needs to go back in complete junior high school before he gets to sit in the cabinet of the United States president. he's another just absolutely disgraceful, you know, token appointee. Oh, he's really gay. So we need somebody like that in our cabinet.

That's really not a great qualification, you know, when people's lives are at stake, which they are now in Ohio. So I'm obviously getting hot under the color. Let's move on. Cool it off with this one. I like this. This is a fun one. What is your favorite historical artifact and why?

I don't have a favorite historical artifact. I love historical artifacts. I absolutely love historical artifacts. And let me ask you, write us in with your favorite historical artifact. You can go to Eric Mataxis.com where it says contact. Because I would love to read what your favorite history. We will do a whole segment. We can do a whole show if enough of you respond because there are so many amazing when you see.

I'll tell you one before we go to the break. and I will never forget this. I was in, I'm actually now confused. Cambridge. It was Cambridge, not Oxford. I was at Cambridge. And I went to the famous museum they have there where Bishop Wilberforce had the big debate.

They showed me in a box. They don't have this on public display. The last surviving Dodo Bird, I mean the last thing, it's not surviving, but from four centuries ago, because they went extinct. and I got to look at a dodo bird. Insane.

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speaking to you. Yes. so he tells me to start making videos at the same time, he starts sending more animals to the property. So he sent a lost Muscovy duck named Jake. Now, was the duck named Jake before you met him? No, I named him Jake. Oh.

The Lord told me name him Jake. So I named him Jake. And he says, you see him? You're going to take care of him too every day. And so Chris actually built him a pen because Jake was lost. I mean, Muscovy ducks are normally native to South America. People do have them up here in New York. But he was definitely lost.

So I took on Jake, and Jake is what really started it all with the sanctuary, and all of these lost animals either showing up or, you know, finding us somehow. And so as this is happening, and Jake comes and Daisy comes, who is a female Moscovy duck and a chicken named Jingles, that was getting bullied. That was funny, too. So she shows up. So now the Lord has me taken care of them, too, and he has me making videos. So now he has me start.

Now he had been warning me for a year and a half to get it through my thick Italian skull, that, you know, I'm bringing you into a new arena. I'm taking you out of obscurity. Now, if I knew what that meant now, I would have hit under the bed and said, I'm not coming out. Like, that is what would have happened. So he would tell me that,

but he doesn't give you the hole because he knows what you can handle at that moment, so he gives you pieces. So I start making videos. And probably, if that was February, so by June, all of a sudden, you know, 5,000, 10,000, it starts climbing. And people start finding out about,

me in the animals and the sanctuary. So I'm doing this through 2018. It was 2018 when it started. Now, in 2018, the Lord says something to me too, that I'm going to understand the fullness of what it means in 2019. At the beginning of the following year, your husband is going to have a road to Damascus moment in his life, and it's going to reroute and change everything in his life. So the Lord tells me this, and I write this down. And so the Lord is preparing the covering and preparing the way this entire time because he knows what's coming. So 2018, I started driving again, which was miraculous after four years of not being able to. So I start driving.

I'm taking care of the animals. I'm doing the videos. I'm putting out the prophetic words that the Lord is giving me. And so I do this all the way through 2018, you know, disciplined. You know what I mean? give up on it. I just kept doing it. The Lord told me to do it. I just kept doing it. That was all I knew. So it was at the beginning of 2019, just as this starts, that, you know, that everything totally gets rocked in our lives, which the prophecy the Lord gave me about Chris is now about

to come to its fullness, and so I can understand, you know, what he really meant. And that was at the beginning of January 2019, that, and to preface this, Chris, at the age of 17, had been in a snowmobile accident, and that hit a wall at 60 miles an hour, and he should have never lived. And the Lord spared his life. But Chris developed a brain injury from that accident that got swept under the rug. So I marry him, and I don't know he's got an actual brain injury from this accident, and he's got something growing in his brain called an AVM, which stands for arterial venous malformation, and it's a cousin to an aneurysm. He doesn't even know he has it. And this is going on for decades in his life. Decades in his life. And so when we got married, I noticed

Chris had issues with logic sometimes and reason. Certain things, I was like, Lord, what's going on? Something's not right. And the Lord had said to me, your husband has a brain injury from the first accident, and I'm going to expose it. That this is what's going on. He tells me this. About five years into our marriage, he tells me this. So it was January 8th, 2019, when he had left for work. And I laugh in a way about our marriage because when the Lord allowed us to marry, he probably said, Oive, you know, because he's a Jewish God. So he probably said, Oive to start and said, this is going to look like a hot mess at the beginning,

but it's going to turn out well on the back end. You know, I could see the Lord just saying this, you know, from his throne. So Chris goes to work, and by the grace of God, he chooses to go, which I knew is the Holy Spirit to the house of a woman that had been a nurse for 20 years. Coincidence, they ask. So what happens at that house? So, and to preface this, three days prior, and I know your friend, Mr. Ken Fish, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. I felt a shift happened in the spirit when I was in the kitchen, and I knew. And I turned to Chris, and I said to him, there's a bomb that's about to go off in your family.

I don't know where, but I know it's going to go off. Because I felt the shift. I felt it happened. So I'm starting to pray three days prior embracing myself. So about 2.30 p.m., his employee, Antonio, races right onto the lawn, drives right onto the grass, doesn't even care at this point, and comes running to the door. You have to call Vassar Hospital. Chris collapsed. So I call Vassar, and the doctor says to me, Mrs. Wagner, because Amanda Grace Wagner, your husband is in great.

grave condition. He has had an enormous hemorrhagic stroke. The AVM started to bleed, and we are prepping him for emergency brain surgery, and we need you up here. So the Lord told me two things, because in the middle of a crisis, if you check your emotions for a minute and listen for the Lord, he will instruct you. He will. So he told me I had to take anointing oil, and I had to get to him before surgery, because I was going to jump in the gap and plead for his life as his wife. So we get up there minutes before he's going to go into surgery. And I walk into the room and he's twitching on a ventilator. So this is my first sight of him.

And the Lord is saying to me, the Lord is speaking to me while I'm in there, put this out of your mind. Don't look at what you see right now. Focus on what I told you to do. So I anoint him. And I said, anybody that doesn't want to come into an agreement with this, out of the room now. I didn't want the extra warfare.

So I said, out of the room. and I pray. And in that prayer, some of the things that were said is I rebuke the devourer in the name of Jesus Christ, and I said, you have no right to his life. I asked the Lord to send his holy angels of all rankings and divisions to protect the operation, and at the end of the prayer, I said, Lord, I'm holding you to your word that Chris is going to live and not die and declare the works of the Lord. So because God is bound by his word. So I said, I'm holding you to your word.

And he goes into surgery. Now, Dr. Shannon, who was an incredibly talented neurosurgeon, said, Amanda, I'm going to try, but nobody survives this. And I thought, that is not your call, Dr. Shannon. That is the Lord's call right now. You go in there and you do what you need to do. So he goes in, and he comes out two and a half hours later. Now, something interesting happened, I didn't find out until 10 days later, which I'll tell you. He says, he looks like a deer in headlight, and he goes, he survived.

two blood transfusions, almost lost him once, but he survived. And he says the next three days are going to determine whether he lives or dies. And I thought, well, Jesus was in the tomb dead for three days, so the Lord is prepping for something incredible to happen here. I find out from his sister, 10 days later, which is important to what happened in that operating room, his sister, he's got two sisters, right? His sister. Chris's sister. He has two sisters. Carol, I laugh.

I say she's not from the same gene pool because she was adopted. So Carol's got a completely different personality than the rest of them. And so Carol is not one to say she saw things. She never. She called me and she says, Amanda, everyone's going to think I'm crazy. I don't know who else to go to. I have to tell you. She said, because Carol was so broken in the waiting room when this was going on.

She said, when I was in the waiting room, a picture appeared before my face. She had an open vision for the first time in her life during this. She said, and I saw Chris on the operating table, and I saw Dr. Shannon, and I saw these enormous angels standing shoulder to shoulder protecting the entire operation. So the angels, I asked God to dispatch, were dispatched. They were there. And Carol saw them. So I find that out 10 days later, but that's pertinent because they were sent to protect that operation

and make sure that the enemy did not interfere in what was happening. So they tell me during this three days, we have to move him to Westchester Medical Center because we couldn't even touch the aneurism part of it or the AVM. And if it ruptures, it's going to kill him. So we need to move him on a ventilator, which is very risky stuff to move a patient. They have to send in a special team that's been trained, and it's a big brouhaha. So I signed the release for them to move him. and they move him.

And Dr. Santorelli comes out, and he looked like Dugie Houser. He looked like he was 16 years old, and I'm looking around for the cameras, like, this is the guy that's going to do the surgery of the AVM for my husband. And so he did. He looked like he was 16. It was the weirdest thing. So he comes out, and he asked me a question, and he said, Amanda, I've been looking at your husband's records. But I don't see anything about an accident. Did your husband have an accident?

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use code Eric and save my pillow.com talking to Amanda grace you can find her at arc of grace hyphen ministries.com so Amanda you're telling us that this was this is so recent this is 2019 and they move Chris and you say this incredibly young doctor comes out and asks you, did your husband ever have an accident? And? And I said yes, and I explained to him what happened when Chris was 17 and everything. And he said, now this all makes sense. He goes, I couldn't find it in the chart.

I couldn't figure it out because this type of AVM only comes from a prior trauma to the brain. So now here's it's all coming out. Chris has a brain injury. He has a brain injury from the first accident. What the Lord had said to me, years ago, now this is all coming out on the table. Yeah, you didn't get that until now. Yes. You didn't understand. Yes. And so now he tells me they're going to try to get this all in one shot. They basically have to take glue and block off every single vessel that is feeding the AVM. And so he says, we're going to try to get in one shot. I don't think we're going to, but we're going to try. So he comes out an hour and a half later and he goes, we got it all, which was miraculous.

And now Chris is in a coma. He's not only in a coma, he's got no skull on his left side because in quick thinking, Dr. Shannon, because the brain was swelling, took the skull off, made a slit and put it near his stomach and sewed it up because Dr. Shannon said, bone needs blood to live. And I thought you could do a whole preaching just on that, just off of what Dr. Shannon said to me. He did this to preserve the bone. the part of the bone from his skull so that it could be reattached at some point. Yes, in quick thinking because they didn't have time to prep anything. So this was in a very emergency situation and this is what Dr. Shannon did. And so five days later he wakes up from the coma.

Unable to speak a lick, completely mentally, when people wake up from brain injuries, they are hostile because their brain is so confused. So now Chris, and Chris doesn't remember this, but Chris has taken swings at everybody because, and he's a big guy at that point. You know what I mean? Like Chris was a builder. So he was in the neuro ICU. He couldn't speak a lick.

So he couldn't speak. He couldn't even say the word no. He was very confused. But what happened was when they did bring him out of it, I got there minutes after they brought him out of the coma and it was successful. I looked at him and he looked up at me and he squeezed my hand. So he recognized me. He may have not.

known the association, but he knew me. And so that's when the days after that, he got very hostile and agitated because that's what the brain does when the brain has been scrambled like this. And so, and he's paralyzed on his right side. He can't use his right side at that point. And so this is the battle now to try, this is going to be the, you know, this battle experience of going to war to try to bring Chris, you know, back. Because they told me he was going to be a vegetable in a wheelchair. Their words, not mine. And I thought if doctors spoke more life over their patients, gee, I wonder what would happen in hospitals. I wonder what would happen. That guy over there, I think they got that one wrong. They did. They got it very wrong.

Wow. And so he gets transferred to a rehab in Rockland County in New York. And he is there five months trying to learn how to walk and talk. When I think what you went through, and then, now he went through. It's almost unbelievable what you guys have been through. And I'm facing this as a wife going, you know what I mean? My husband, it's like the, it's like the first Chris died. And there's a very new Chris, and he's nothing like the first Chris. So I got married again right away to somebody totally different. And I remember when he first got to Helen Hayes, the Lord did a creative miracle. The Lord will do that. He'll equip you with what you need in the middle of the battle if you're open to receiving it.

And he couldn't talk and he was very frustrated. And he was drawing something and it looked like a pair of pants in a box. It was like I had no clue. He's getting frustrated. He's pointing at it. He's getting upset. And I very simply said, Lord, if I can't understand him, I can't help him. Like very simple prayer of a child.

And the Holy Spirit almost chuckling says to me, he wants to know where his wallet is. And I looked at him. I said, are you asking me where your wallet is? And he threw the pen down and put his hands up in the air. Hallelujah. Because somebody finally understood him. And from that day forward, even though he couldn't say any words, I understood him.

And they couldn't believe it. They actually asked me, are you sure this accident just happened? Because you just understand him way too well for this just being so new. But that was. So God miraculously helped you to understand what he's trying to communicate, even though it makes no human sense. Made no human sense. I can understand it in order to equip me to help him.

So he was there five months. He had to wear a special helmet because he had no skull on one side. The first word he learned in rehab was no. And so that was fun. And I was there every day pretty much. Every day I was going there and involved in the rehab. And he was asking for sushi three times a week. I knew the noise that he made when he wanted.

sushi. So he's asking for this three times a week. And I'm like, well, this is good for his brain, so I don't mind getting it for him. So, you know, I would come with what he asked for. And I'd have to take care of the house and make sure people were taking care of our dogs because we had Roxy and Toby at that point. Are you still making prophetic videos at this point? Yes, through the whole, I publicly went through this battle. So everything I had been teaching and talking about, I was going to have to walk out publicly not for people to watch me do it. And so I publicly walk through this whole battle and I gave updates the entire way and I still prophesied the entire way because the Lord didn't release me from the first. So I still had to do it because he hadn't released me and told me, oh, it's okay to put it to the side.

So now I'm doing both. I'm giving update videos on Chris and I have to tell you people from all over the country, the amount of prayer and cards and quilts and gifts and support was overwhelming. Okay. Final segment for today. We'll continue tomorrow or in the next day, but we'll be right back. With the overturn of Roe v. Wade, lots of companies are coming out saying they'll pay for employee abortion travel and expenses. Most of you've heard about some of these companies. You've decided to stop shopping or doing business there. But did you know that? that you most likely own stock in those companies through your 401Ks, IRAs, and other investment accounts.

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But I'm just so glad that my audience can see you. And I don't know. Where do we take this story from here? I don't know. Well, it was, Chris didn't come home for good until November of 2019. Basically, he had developed epilepsy from the scar on the brain. And he went back into that. He had a massive seizure.

I had a call 911. He wasn't responding to me right. This was September 2019. Chris, is she just making this up? Is this true? I think so. Yes. I mean, come on.

Epilepsy. Epilepsy. And so... It's unbelievable. He has to go back to rehab. What you guys have been through. I really, I think a lot of people listen to this program, it's hard to take it in. And how you love God.

Because there's so many people, if something goes wrong, they're like, I blame God. Like, oh, yeah? Well, a lot of people go through a lot of stuff, and they praise God because they realize how much he loves us. And we don't understand why he lets us go through these things. That's kind of the mystery. But, okay, so epilepsy. Yes, and he actually goes to a sub-acute rehab in Cortland Manor, New York.

Now, we have taken in this ties in, another animal at the time, Noble, the orphaned baby pig. This pig is famous. If anybody follows you on your YouTube channel. Yes. This is a famous pig. Yes, and so we take him in, and he's about eight pounds. He's so tiny. And so Chris goes back in.

That's the best eating size, by the way. Eric. I had this. How could I resist that? That was like so, I'm totally off pork now. Go ahead. So I get this wild idea that I'm going to bring Noble down to the nursing home to visit all the patients. So I cleared it with them.

They thought it was a great idea. It is. It sounds like a great idea. So Noble's probably about this big now. Like he's, I don't know, maybe like 30 pounds by the time. By the time you bring him to this rehab. Yes, rehab. And I have him on his little harness, and we brought him down at Christmas time, too.

When Chris got out in November, we went back down. I actually had a custom Christmas tucks made for him to put on him. And we had jingle bells, and we went and visited all the patients. And Noble was, he was their therapy. He went up to them. They'd pet him. He was very, he knew, pigs had the intelligence of a four-year-old child. So when we got there, he knew I have to go into every room.

I have to visit every patient. He knew this. And we did this many times with Noble in the midst of Chris getting out of this sub-acute rehab and going back down with him to visit the patients that were still there. And that was at the end of 2019. Now, Chris permanently comes home then, and my life changes dramatically. Because now the Lord had set this up so I could do the broadcast from home. This was all the brilliance of God setting everything up.

setting up me broadcasting at home for what we were about to go through in this country. And so kind of I was able to take care of him and still do what the Lord wanted me to do the way the Lord set it up. So he comes home. We start in therapy. Chris needs help showering even when he gets home. So when he gets home, my life totally changes and now I'm the caretaker. So I have a unique perspective. I've been both the patient and the caretaker.

So I understand it from both perspectives. and the battle is now to get Chris to, you know what I mean? The peak of where the Lord wants him, because I brought him back to Dr. Shannon when this was all said and done when he got out in November, he looked at me and he goes, Amanda, I don't like to use the word miracle because neurosurgeons never do. They're not built that way. It's very embarrassing for them. It's very embarrassing for them. He goes, but I don't know what else to call this.

He said, this is an absolute miracle. He goes, people don't survive this. And I said, they do have come. God says they do, Dr. Shannon. If the Lord speaks it, they do. And he says, I can't even wrap my head around the fact your husband can walk. And so it was a testimony to him and his father. His father was also a neurosurgeon, threw his hands up in the air, and went,

The man's a walking miracle. I don't know what else to say. Like, they were just baffled by his recovery. And Chris has gotten better and better, praise God. His speech has dramatically improved. You know, Chris can do, you know, quite a few things himself now, you know, as far as life. I mean, we've had conversations, you know, small conversations, but you've come to hear me preach at the church in Bethel a few times. Yes.

And it is, once you hear the story, it's just more amazing to me that you're just showing up and, you know, and obviously you're still struggling. But it is, I mean, I say this just because there are many people out there who need, hope. They don't believe God does miracles. They don't believe, they can't, they can't, you know, or they say, oh, you never do anything for me. And it's like, no, that's, that's, we need to have faith. First of all, that God loves us and that whatever he does, turn to him and let him do whatever he's going to do. I mean, he lets, sometimes he lets us go through hell. You guys have been through hell. I've been through stuff, nothing like this. But I mean, that, the question is, are you walking with him in the middle of it? Are you looking to him in the middle of it? Are you looking to him in the

middle of it, you realize he's the author of when you live and die. He is the one. That's how you're going to get through the valley. Amen. He's looking up and focusing on him through it. That's how you get through the valley. Otherwise, you'll wander there for 40 years in the desert if you keep taking your eyes off of him. So it was crucial for me to keep my eyes on the Lord, because I knew there was no way I was going to be able to do any of this without the Lord's grace, wisdom, and strength on me and leading me and guiding me in this. Because This was heavy, and I felt the weight of it. I could feel the weight of the heaviness between the ministry and taking care of Chris and the sanctuary, you know.

And the Lord didn't stop sending animals when Chris came home, which was a whole adjustment for Christmas. The Lord didn't stop sending them. You know, so that's a whole other part of our story. Before we go, we'll have one final segment with Chris and Amanda, but I just want to remind people, if you haven't done it yet, please go. to Socrates in the city.com, sign up for the live stream. I mean, if you want to show up in New York, show up. But if you can't, sign up for the live stream. We've never done a live stream before with Socrates in the city.

And I'm so excited about it. I could burst. And I think tomorrow, Albin, we're going to be airing Jeannie Konstantino. We're going to be airing a little bit of that tomorrow. And she will be my guest at the Toxic City, which is on February 28th. But you can watch it live. and you can have your own Socrates and City party at home. The fancy hors d'oeuvres and the wine are not included in the streaming price.

I'm just letting you know. But you can stream it and you can have your own Socrates event wherever you want. So I just had to say that. I also want to remind you one of our new sponsors on the program, I want to make sure that I get the website right. It's holyland. dot Israel travel. I have been to Israel.

I'm planning to go back to Israel. Holy Land. dot Israel. Travel. Final segment with Amanda Grace and that guy we were talking about, her husband Chris, sitting right here.

I got to tell you, I'm just, but when you hear this story of what you went through and Chris is taking care of you and then what Chris has been through and you're taking care of Chris and now God is with you and the whole thing,

it's just an amazing story and we're still in the middle of the story because, you know, there's so much more. And you, but the fact that this happened when this country basically went insane. Yes, yeah. The COVID lunacy, government lying to us, election fraud, wherever you want to go with it, everything went insane. And you were processing this with your YouTube online audience while this is going on, Chris's home. got the animals. I mean, it's like, it's amazing timing. It was incredible timing. The timing of God is so amazing. And Chris came home literally on the cusp of everything going insane. So at least I had him at home. But the Lord had brilliantly set this up when he told me to start making videos

and now, praise God, I mean, we've, you know what I mean? The Lord has just grown us and we're very grateful to the Lord for that. But when he told me to start making the videos, he was setting me up for of that because I didn't miss a beat. I went through the whole craziness, prophesying and speaking the word of the Lord and teaching right through it. It never got disrupted. So praise God for that. Well, it's amazing. I want you to stick around so we can do another show to talk about what God's been saying

to you prophetically. So we'll do that in the next show. But let me just say. just one final question, because I'm sure people are wondering, what is it about animals? In other words, what is your sense? Because one of my dear friends, John Samirak, he's on this program every week, he has this thing, he rescued the two beagles, and he has this love for these animals, and what is it about animals that it's such an important part of your life? Or what do you think it is about animals? Well, I think the Lord appropriately named it Ark of Grace.

I think that has a dual meaning, because the Lord sent all the animals to the ark to be. saved and Jesus is our arc. He was our covering on the cross. And so basically it does have a dual meaning. Animals taught me stewardship and being faithful and taking care of something that really couldn't do much back for me. You know, we could never, ever repay God, ever. You know, that's his unconditional love for us. And so these animals taught me that. But the Lord showed me that arc of gray is a reflection of the heart of God because the same way he finds us in our broken, abandoned, you know, neglected state,

and he goes, I can work with that. I can work with this person. We get these animals in broken, neglected, abandoned, disabled states, and I go, I can work with that animal. I know we can pull something special out of this animal. It's just amazing that God has given you the desire to do that. So we've got less than a minute left. So name some of the animals.

You mentioned Noble the Pigs who's famous. Yes. We have Moses, the sheep, who was actually born on Passover last year, and the Lord sent us a lamb born on Passover to the sanctuary for us to raise. We have Simeon, his little friend, the deer. Simeon the deer, who was abandoned by his mother. Yes, we have a wildlife rehabilitator specialist involved in this, you know, but we are a sanctuary. So we have him. We have Molly and Wally, the two African gray parrots that were each sent at 40 years.

old. God has a brilliant sense of humor. Parrots aged 40? Yes, because they live past 60 years in captivity and they have the intelligence of a five-year-old child. And so I've got Wally the parrot walking around with the cats and the pig, Duchess the pig, which is his little girlfriend and the dogs. And he goes, hey, hello,

you know what I mean? And he says hi to all the animals. And then we have Noble, who everybody knows. Now, people, we're at a time. So people, if they want to know more, they can go to Arc of Grace hyphen ministries.com. and you have a YouTube channel.

Chris and Amanda, thank you. Thank you, Eric. We love you. We love you and your wife. Love you back.