The Eric Metaxas Show - Andrew Giuliani

Episode Date: June 16, 2022

Andrew Giuliani, son of New York City's famous mayor, is running for Governor of New York -- and is in the studio to talk about his important campaign.

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Today we got two hours of stuff to fill. Hey, hour one. Now, we're not 100% sure, but we're 90% sure that Andrew Giuliani is going to be our guest. He's going to walk in this door any minute. If he doesn't walk in the door, we're stuck. We're going to have to come up with something. But Andrew Giuliani is the son of Rudy Giuliani. I got to spend some time with them a while ago, and I was so impressed and thrilled to get to know them.

And Andrew is running for the governorship of New York. I want to tell you, we talked to Carrie Lake. She's running for the governor of Arizona. We're going to air that, what, tomorrow? Tomorrow, yes. I want to say there is hope for America because there are people who are unlike those who have brought us to this mess who are running for office. Good people. J.D. Vance in Ohio.

Carrie Lake in, well, J.D. Vance is running for Senate. tons of people. So in a couple of minutes, I hope. Lauren Bobert. Lauren Bobert as well. Marjorie Taylor Green. It goes on and on, but there's some real heroes emerging. One of them is going to walk through the store any second, so get ready.

Also should mention, in our two today, really special treat. Thomas Sheehan, this guy is a top, top, top scientist genius who's written a book on the compatibility of faith in science subject. very close to my heart. If you read my book, Is Atheism Dead? You know how excited I am about that subject. And he was a really particularly good guest. We just, we just taped that just last night. My goodness, he's, I love this guy.

So two exciting hours today. Also, I should mention, because we had Apollo astronaut Charlie Duke at our last Socrates event, and it was the day after Memorial Day was a very bad time. tons of people said, oh, I want to go. I can't go. So I said, when we do our next event, we're going to advertise it like a million years

in advance. Yeah. So September 27th, Andrew Claven. Folks, September 27th, New York City, get ready. Andrew Claven will be my guest. One quick thing that I want to mention. And then, Alvin, I want to talk to you about your experience on the subway. Oh, yeah.

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Albin before I ask you about the subway Yes It is possible Possible This is a very very crazy thing to say But it's possible That we will get Woody Allen

On this program as my guest And anybody who thinks well, what are you on? Didn't he molest some kid? No, he didn't. And that's why I'm having him on the show, because people who have canceled him, I don't care if I agree with you about everything. If people are canceling you, I want to stand with you. And I think all of us should stand with those who are being canceled. Because since it's happened to me, the half-truths and lies that are out there about me, you just think, like, people aren't checking into this. They're just kind of going along with the satanic agenda to cancel people. And what do you

if it's in the category for me. You might disagree with him on all kinds of stuff, but let me tell you something. He didn't molest any kids. And if he did, I wouldn't have him on the program. But it just disgusts me that this has been happening. And so I want to stand with him. He's one of the most brilliant writers, filmmakers,

whoever lived. I can give you chapter and verse on that, probably better than anybody. So we're going to try to get him on this program. That would be insane. Okay, Alvin. Yes, sir. What's going on with you? Well, yesterday I was talking about coming in on the Metro North and everybody has to wear a man. Okay, Metro North is the commuter train.

Yeah, coming in from Westchester County in this particular case. And this morning, though, Anne and I went totally maskless, okay? Yes, yes. Well, you're a married couple. That goes without saying. Yeah, exactly. So we're allowed. Okay, it's, you know, above the law.

But anyway, so didn't wear a mask. And I was just waiting for somebody to say, hey, you're not wearing a mask. Because I was going to say, well, check me out tomorrow. I won't be wearing pants. See, I got my comebacks ready, okay? I got you. Okay. So anyway, so then I, you know, I get off the Metro North at Grand Central,

and they still have that old announcement. I am not kidding. It's been there for two years saying, like, you must wear a mask in Grand Central, even if you're vaccinated, blah, blah, blah. Fortunately, about 75% of the people are not wearing masks. They're just coming and going and like whatever the voice in the sky is saying, we're not listening.

So that's great. I get on the subway, okay, and this happened the last two days in a row. I noticed this advertisement on the subway, okay? There's an advertisement. basically for people that are out on parole. I am not kidding. Now, by the way, is there a through line to this wacky anecdote? Well, yeah, it's about what the message, who the messages are for.

Okay, so the first part is you're coming in from Westchester on the commuter rail. You didn't wear masks. Number one, that's brave, and I salute you, my friend. So then once you've got to come through Grand Central, now you get on the subway to come down here. Right. And on the subway, you saw the following ad. Ladies and gentlemen, Albin showed this to me. He's not making this up.

Go ahead. It says, I photographed it, it says, your new parole rights, okay? And there's a picture of a guy who looks like he may or may not be a criminal. He's not too threatening, but he might be from central casting. I don't know. He might be a criminal. But then in quotes, it says, every 30 days without a violation gives me 30 days off my parole sentence, okay? So this is an ad in the subway aimed at criminals because we know now criminals ride the subway, evidently.

Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to shoot you potentially. Exactly. And it's sponsored by the Legal Aid, NYC, Parole Reform Board. Okay, that's who's sponsoring the ad. Now, back in the 80s, you know this, I know this. There used to be criminals roaming the streets, breaking into people's car and stealing their radios, right? And then people started putting signs in their car that said, no radio, because they

were giving messages to the criminals. To the criminal. Like, hey, leave me alone, man. I'm cool. I don't have a radio. don't break my window, man. So I made up a license plate that actually said no radio. That's brilliant. Yeah. I actually made up a license plate like that. But what do you mean you made it up? Did you get a license plate? Well, I just, one of these won't make anything kind of places.

So I had a nice license plate. One day I'll bring it in. You'll see. But anyway, so now there are messages for criminals on the subway saying like, please don't hurt anyone because you'll get 30 days off if you don't push somebody in front of that subway train. Isn't that kind and sweet of them? Well, I want you to know that the New York I live in is nothing like that, folks. But we'll be right back with, I hope, the next governor of New York. Tell me, Eric, why is Relief Factor so successful at lowering or eliminating pain? I'm often asked that question. The owners of Relief Factor tell me they believe our bodies were designed to heal.

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Hey there, folks. I warned you. I warned you that I would have a Giuliani as my guest today. I wasn't making it up. Here he is. Andrew Giuliani. Andrew, welcome. Eric, always great to be with you.

I got to say my interview with your father, Mayor Rudolph, Giuliani, I don't know, a month or two ago. It was so much fun. People just loved it. And I knew I've loved your father for decades and stuff. I only got to meet you a few months ago. But I'm happy to say that you're running for governor of New York. And the reason I'm happy to say that is because as I've gotten to know you, I've gotten really enthused because there are a lot of people that maybe they're on the right side of some issues or whatever, but there are very few people that I think have the zeal, the fire, the joy to run and to win and to be a good governor.

And because I've determined that you do, I'm particularly thrilled to have you on the program. Well, you know, we met probably about 10 days, two weeks after my daughter, my first child, daughter, my daughter, Grace's birthday. And I got to tell you, you are the first book that was ever signed for my daughter grace, but that brings up really what we're doing this all for. And I have to tell you, every single time that I look in her eyes or give her a kiss and see that toothless grin, I realize what we're doing this all for. And it gives me conviction every single day to make sure that we're fighting for New Yorkers. And we're fighting to make New York a better state. Unfortunately, you know this

well, Eric, we're leading the country and out migration. There are a whole lot of reasons why. Okay. Well, look, for my audience, just so they understand, you know, I don't, I'm not particularly political. But when you're in an ideological war with insane Marxists who have taken over the Democratic Party, unfortunately, these kinds of elections are extremely important, right? And I think part of, for me, what's interesting, too, is that I alluded to it a moment ago, as I'm describing you, you don't just need to agree with me on the issues. You need to have the kind of the fire to understand what is at stake. Now, when we're talking about New York, just knowing that you could be governor of New York gives me tremendous hope because I have to say

it has been so bleak. And when I say bleak, I don't just mean bleak because of the Democrats, but the kind of people that the Republicans have been putting out there is pathetic. You just realize it's almost better to lose because they're just placeholders. They're not really willing to roll up their sleeves and fight. You have a primary coming up. I want to be real clear. You have a primary coming up June 28th. Yes. You are, it's a tight race. Yeah, it is. It's close. Mattering which poll you'll look at, we're up single digits or down within the margin of error. It's right there. So it's going to be all about who gets their vote out better. Okay. So I've never talked to Lee Zeldon,

but he's your principal opponent in this Republican primary. Where do you differ from him? Why, other than the fact that I like you and you're funny? and normal and you believe in God, you know, all that good stuff. But you, where do you see yourself differing from him? Well, on paper, on policy, we're very similar. I think it's a matter of principle, to be perfectly honest. This is a guy who thought that Andrew Cuomo would make a good president. Hey, hey, oh, stop, stop.

Say that again. He thought that Andrew Cuomo would make a good president. Okay, Lee Zeldon, who you're running against in the GOP primary for governor. I didn't know this. So whenever I hear somebody else, I'm like, stop everything. why in the world? Because it's one thing to say, I think Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan was a principal Democrat. I agree with that. Cuomo? Yeah. And the truth is he rubber-stamped all of his budgets that basically saw our state go from $135 billion in 2010 to $143 billion, a couple

years later, to now $220 billion. So when you talked about kind of those Republicans folding like cheap suits. Unfortunately, he's part of that group right there. I think in Andrew Giuliani, you're going to get a guy who learned from Rudy Giuliani and from Donald Trump. Now, whatever you think about those guys, I happen to love both of those guys. Whatever you think about them, I think we can 100% agree that both of those men have a whole lot of conviction. Listen, I love both of those guys, and it's why I'm coming to love you, because you start seeing that if you do not have that fire in you, We are where we are now in this country because of Republicans, sounds like Lee Zeldon,

who they're kind of playing patty cake with evil. I mean, when you're dealing with somebody like an Andrew Cuomo, I guess, you know, he fooled some people. But we now see that these people are ideologues. Yeah. That they have a completely different view of America. Well, you know New York for a very long time. When we think about Albany, you think about corrupt politicians.

Andrew Cuomo brought that to a whole new low. And unfortunately with Kathy Hockel, while she's only been on the job for nine months now, she had a lieutenant governor that literally was arrested because of campaign finance fraud. That was her first major appointment. And now in this Bill Stadium deal, her husband, Bill Hockel, literally is profiting off of the deal that she approved. Eric, you can take out Bill Hockel and put in Hunter Biden. and I think your national audience will understand exactly what we're going through from a corruption standpoint here in the state of New York. And look, this is, this is to me what it boils down to, is that you have two visions of America.

The founder's vision is about citizen government. We govern ourselves. We elect people transparently to represent us. And then you have what the founders hated was the idea of these career politicians who would come in and begin to make a nice life for the themselves and they would go on decade after decade, whether it's the Biden family or the Pelosi family. And they begin to put their tentacles out there and it goes into the generations and their families and siblings and kids and whatever. And you realize it is fundamentally un-American and it leads to corruption. There's just no way around it. That's what human beings do. They get power. They want

more power. And basically, the Democrats have been very comfortable with that. Right. It's the unaccountable bureaucracy, which Donald Trump labeled draining the swamp. And I mean, when you think about unaccountable bureaucracy from a state government level, New York's budget is $220 billion. For perspective, the state of Florida's budget is $98 billion, and they have a million more people. So you're absolutely right on this. Albany has been a cesspool, and we are just not taking care of New York taxpayer dollars. What's more in terms of the amount of power that first Andrew Cuomo, and now Kathy Hokel basically have usurped in Albany.

One thing that I dealt with a couple days ago at our most recent debate was the fact that I was not allowed actually in the debate hall. I had to date parole. Hang on. Again, no, no, no. Again, I'm interrupting because when something huge comes up, I want people to be like, listen, folks, listen carefully to this, because this is where we are.

So tell this story. Yeah, so look, I have gotten COVID before. I still have natural immunity. and when they gave the first rules of the debate, CBS, our local CBS station here in New York, they said, you'll have to take a test to come in the room. I said, okay, I'll take a test to come in the room. About five days before the debate,

they all of a sudden said, you need to upload your vaccination card. And I said, well, first and foremost, I don't think that's appropriate. Secondly, I don't have a vaccination card. I chose not to. I have natural immunity. I've read the studies on this.

Another reason to love Andrew Giuliani. Seriously, you're a hero, because I've talked about the vaccine. It's an outrage. And then the second level is the vaccine cards and this stuff. It's a second level of government intrusion outrage. So this comes to haunt you in the debate. Yeah.

Think about this in New York, right? To vote, we don't have to show identification. But for me to go and practice my First Amendment rights and represent all those New Yorkers who have expressed support and wanted to hear my views, I would have to show identification, which I don't have. and I am proud to, look, I've followed the actual science on this. I've read the Israeli studies, I've read the Johns Hopkins study,

and the fact that natural immunity is not even considered is beyond absurd. Also in New York, we need to bring back the religious exemptions when we're considering this. And that's something... Thank God you're bringing this up. And Eric, you've touched on this so many times. We've lost a level of morality in this state, not just in this country, but in this state. When you're talking about lighting up the empire state building to, quote, celebrate your abortion, what have we come to as a society?

As governor, we will fight against that. I will fight against that every single day and make sure we return our state to a level of morality where we can all be proud of. Well, and again, this is basic America. This is not some, like, we're imposing some values. I mean, this is the most basic stuff. And the left, in complicity with the Rino, GOP, they really don't, they don't, They don't see this. But I just want to say this is pure politics.

The reason they did this to you with the vaccine, you know, suddenly demanding. And again, ladies and gentlemen, think how nuts this is. We're going to have a debate for the governorship of the state of New York. And they're saying, oh, oh, you know, because of it's so important. We've got the bubonic plague. People are dropping dead. We need to know that you have been vaccinated. And if you're not, we're going to put you over in the penalty.

box just to signal to all the crazy people out there that you see this guy. Yeah, he won't get with the program. He's not getting like the rainbow BLM tattoo on his forehead. He's a bad guy. We can't trust him. It's such naked politics that they would at the last minute impose this on you. So we're talking folks to, I hope, the next governor of New York City by God's Grace, Andrew Giuliani. It's the Airman Taxis Show. Don't go away. Hey there, folks. Eric Metax is here. As you know, our friend, and he's a real friend, Mike Lindell, has a passion to help everyone get the best sleep of their life. But he didn't stop by simply creating the best pillow. Now Mike has done it again by introducing his

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I can give you chapter and verse on that. And now we have his son, Andrew Giuliani, running for the governorship. Now, look, June 28th is... the primary. It's going to be tight. You're running against Lee Zeldon. He's not an evil person, but it doesn't strike me that he's nearly up to the job in the way that you are. I don't think I'm just saying that because I know you. I know enough to get a sense that we need fighters, we need people who are willing to talk about the vaccine lunacy. So talk about this again. So you go to a debate the other day and they make you like sit in a penalty box because you did not get vaccinated.

Yeah. And to me, this was absurd. Look, the other three Republican candidates, they immediately handed over their papers. For me, I just said, first and foremost, I think it's a constitutional right of ours where we should not have to do that. But secondly, I've chosen not to get this shot. And they said, well, you'll have to be relegated to a different box. Now, for me, I thought about not actually showing up and doing it, but I wanted to make sure that I got our message out there to as many New Yorkers as possible. So we try to do everything we could do. to be on that debate stage, but ended up settling where we had to be in a completely different studio, which ironically enough was down the block. Now, at the very same time, Eric, you ended up having a concert going on at Madison Square Garden where you had 20,000 people that were all in there. You were talking about six people in a studio that were socially distanced from each other. So you highlighted this before. This is not about the science. This is about political theater. The same thing that we're seeing down in Washington, D.C., right now with this January 6th committee hearings at prime time.

That's the same thing. They want Americans to comply. Well, the truth is, let's start looking at the science on this. Let's start looking at actually the real data on this. And then we can make decisions. Well, I think most Americans are waking up to the madness. Because Americans are nice people. We go along, you know, when they say, we got to stay in your house for two weeks.

And you're like, well, that's weird. But, oh, okay. And it gets more and more and more preposterous. I mean, I see people, young people, walking around Central Park or the city wearing masks. And I'm thinking, what world are you in? It's like, you know, it's like 3,000 years since the onset of this weird thing and stuff. You're wearing masks. You're going along with this kind of, it feels like a Marxist agenda.

Like the state is taking control the way former governor Cuomo treated people and talked to people. And something has happened in this country. And put the state above God, too. He put the state above God. I mean, ultimately, that's where this whole conversation goes, is that I think Americans, we've had it so good that we forget that the founders, they were living in a different time, and they had to make this very clear. But we've been so blessed that in a sense, we're not really clear on how evil,

evil is, that power, you know, wants to increase power, wants to keep power. And we've never seen it on display in the way when the COVID thing happened. I never dreamt the way mayors and blue state governors behaved. I just think most Americans didn't think we would ever see anything approaching that. It was horrifying. Yeah, look, when I think about what's mainstream in the Democratic Party right now, even a decade ago on college campuses, it would have been considered radical. The same people that want to talk to me about the science of COVID,

thinking that they have the upper hand on this, are telling me that my daughter can choose, whether she's a male or a female or another. I mean, I heard a story the other day that there was a girl in kindergarten who is identifying as a kitten. And to empower her, they set up a litter box in the classroom so she can use the bathroom in the litter box as a kid we could.

Andrew, I know you're a big joker. I'm kidding. I wish I could tell you that I'm kidding. And I can't say that I've been in that classroom. There's a story that was told to me. it's beyond crazy what we're dealing with here. And that's why we have to get back to the common sense of the ideas and of the issues here in New York. And like I said before, I look at my daughter every single day. And I know that my parents literally took a frontline stance on making sure that they handed over a better city, a better state, and a better country to me than they grew up in. We're at a place where I don't know if we can say that right now to the next generation. I will fight with everything. I'm in. I will fight with everything. I'm a better state. I'm a better country. I'm a better country. I'm a better country. I'm in. We're at a place where we're at a place where I will fight with everything I will fight with. I I have to make sure that New York State is in a better place for the next generation than it is right now. Well, again, I think that, you know, back when Trump was running during the primaries, I didn't come out for

anybody in particular people. I just knew that whoever the GOP person is, of course, I'm going to vote for them against Hillary Clinton, not just because she has bad ideas, but because she's probably one of the most corrupt figures in American public life. So I didn't say anything about Trump, but I had an innate sense that if you're going to be running against Hillary Clinton, you need to be a real fighter. And that's one of the reasons that I thought Trump would be a good candidate. And I think that we're at that point now where what passed for okay in the past, it's no longer workable.

So if you have people like Lee Zeldon or others that, you know, they're nice people, whatever. But if you don't recognize we're in an ideological war, When you have kids, it's effectively child abuse. When you ask a five-year-old, what do you identify? That's exactly right. You know, that's not appropriate. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

And when you think about putting masks on two to four-year-olds, look, we were joking around in the commercial breakover here. I'm Italian. We think that not only 90% of communication is nonverbal, 95% of communication is nonverbal. Think about this. If we're doing this right now, we've lost so much of our verbal communications. What is that doing?

It is inhuman. It is sick. Most people, I think, have a sense of that. And we need to elect people who get that. Or else. We'll be right back talking to Andrew Giuliani. I didn't see you come in. My name is Eric Metaxis.

This is the Eric Mattaxas show. I have guests. Don't worry. It's not just me. I'm talking to Andrew Giuliani. I hope will be the next governor of the state of New York. That would be terrific. Andrew, welcome.

Eric, thank you, as always. I want to talk to you a little bit about your family. Now, anybody who knows your dad. Your dad is such a hero to me because I grew up in the city. I remember when it was a crime-ridden mess. You couldn't dream that this city could ever turn into the oasis of safety and whatever that it became. And it's because your father was an incredible fighter, you know, because we really, there are a lot of people that they have nice ideas, whatever, but your father somehow amazingly got it done. Trump is very.

very similar. Obviously, DeSantis, there are few people that are emerging that have that fire. They understand things are bad. We need to try something new. We need to try something different. I know you're that kind of guy. And I can only imagine, in part, it's because you spent a lot of time around your dad. Yeah, I think first and foremost working four years in President Trump's White House as a special assistant to the president, the last couple of years, working with him every single day. I really know him for over 20. years, but also growing up and seeing New York, as you mentioned, change from the rotting apple, as Time magazine detailed it in the early 90s, over 2,000 murders a year after year after

year, to less than 600, just five short years later, to less than 300 when those policies were actually continued by the next mayor. To be honest, Eric, here's the thing I think that's so important. It's what you're touching on right here. There's so many politicians that come in, they say they're going to do this, and they get confronted with evil in their first term at some point, and they don't realize exactly what's going to hit him. They don't realize exactly how hard it is to make sure they push through that. Donald Trump realized that. Rudy Giuliani realized that I learned from both of those guys. And frankly, Eric, I mean, I remember having a death threat against me when I was 12 years old because of a policy that my father insured, which, by the way,

ended up saving New Yorkers lives. I know exactly the kind of evil that's going to be coming for me on day one. This is very simple. I'm looking forward to pushing through this. That way New York can be better place. New Yorkers are not going to get a cheap suit that's going to fold in Andrew Giuliani. They're going to get somebody with a backbone who's going to change this state. Again, I have to say that what makes me, it's one thing to get angry at like Marxist, leftist Democrats, who I think are crazy. They're crazy. But I feel like they're naturally crazy or they're honestly crazy. Half of them. Some of them are really evil. But a lot of them a lot of them believe lies. But what really ticks me off is the Republican

who enable them. And we have seen this, whether it's Mitch McConnell or Kevin McCarthy or whoever it is, Lindsay Graham, a lot of people that once in a while they'll say something and you're like, great. But then you see over the course of time, they have enabled Marxist, anti-American thinking, anti-Christian thinking it. I mean, they have enabled this over the decades so that most Americans and certainly most New Yorkers just think, what world, who is running this world? It doesn't have any bearing on the world that I live in.

And I think that that's, you know, your opponent, Lee Zeldon and others, they seem to think that if we just play nice, everything will be okay. And that's why we're in this, man. Well, I think this really important ideal to highlight here when you look at those who fold and those who actually push through, it's courage, right? I mean, this is, it's tough when day. in and day out, you have a leftist press that's writing this about you and you have threats and it's easier to take a different way out. But you got to have somebody with courage that's going to

come in there and make sure that they actually come in and change the thing when they do have all that that's fighting against him here. So to me, that's what I learned really in growing up in my father's household and seeing the transformation. But I also see, and this is maybe just growing up in it day in and day out, I would not be able to live with myself. if I couldn't look myself in the mirror. If I couldn't look my wife in the mirror and tell them that I'm saying what I believe. New Yorkers, whether you agree with me on a policy or not,

you're always going to get a genuine person in Andrew Giuliani. I think that's so important. Well, you know, it's funny too because I know that you're involved, that Curtis Slee was involved with you, and he's been on the show a bunch of times. He's another hero. These are people that it's almost like a, it's just a common sense thing.

You realize, I mean, what Curtis Slee would did with the Guardian Angels and this kind of stuff in the city, They actually care about poor people. They think what can we do to reduce crime? They're not playing that political game. No one has been more attacked than Trump than your dad. Curtis Slewa, of course, was nearly murdered by the Gotties. I mean, crazy stuff.

But obviously, it puts a fire in you that you're not going to play games. Yeah, Curtis has been stabbed and shot. And he's been working to make New York a safer place for all, New Yorkers for nearly 45 years now. So there's nobody that understands the challenges that New York has and unfortunately is still going through than Curtis. Look, the truth is when we talk about crime in New York specifically, there's a playbook that works. I don't want to sound egotistical here. It's called the Giuliani playbook. Oh, look. This thing works. This is like math, ladies and gentlemen. This is just like math. It worked so dramatically that not to go along with it is sort of sick. It is. And when I

think about, and you mentioned this before, being compassionate to New Yorkers and Americans, there's nobody since Hudson sailed down that river that's a little bit west of us right now that save more New York lives than Rudy Giuliani because he instituted broken windows policing. He allowed our police to be proactive, and that actually ended up creating more bonds with communities in New York. We went from 2,000 murders a year to less than 600 to less than 300. Eric, here's the thing that's so amazing. We were at 2,000 murders a year, or 300 murders a year or now up to about 600, which is where we're out. We're going in the wrong direction right now.

65 to 75% of those victims were African American victims. So if black lives truly mattered to the left, then they would be making sure they'd institute broken windows theory. Look, that's obviously the point. When your dad was on this program, I was talking to him about, you know, what he did in New York was so dramatically effective that you would just say, like sign me up. Lori Lightfoot in Chicago, whatever. And I, and what, it, it actually fascinates me, how do people live with themselves? A mayor like Lori Lightfoot in Chicago, how do you live with

yourself knowing that hundreds and hundreds of black people are being murdered, but because I guess of your pride or something, you will not do anything to help them because maybe that means saying Giuliani did something right. We're going to go to another break here. We've got a final segment with Andrew Giuliani. The website, folks, please go to save n.y.org. We need your help. I need your help. I live here, folks. Save ny.org. Save ny.org. The primary is June 28. We'll be right back. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Andrew Giuliani. I hope, as a New York, or an American, that he will be the next governor of New York. But that would take people voting for him, which is why I wanted him on this program.

Folks, if you live in New York or know anybody who lives in the state of New York, June 28th is the primary. We kind of need you to step up. June 28th is the primary. You are running against a number of folks in the GOP who I don't think can hold a candle to you, which is why I wanted to have you on the program, frankly, because I care about this state, that we're in a bad place right now. Yeah, Eric, you're absolutely right.

I mean, I mentioned it before, but we lead the country in out migration, and it's for a magnitude of reasons. We talked about crime before, but one thing that we actually didn't get to, which I think is really important national news, is our district attorney here where we're sitting in Manhattan in New York County. This is a guy who on day two of his administration wrote a memo to his assistant district attorneys that said he was not going to prosecute. Get this. Armed robbery and resisting arrest. What kind of a message does that send? have recall in New York like they have in San Francisco or L.A. But the governor has the ability under the New York State Constitution, Article 8, Section 13B, to fire any district attorney.

And on day one, I will fire any district attorney that chooses not to execute their oath of office, just like Alvin Bragg here in Manhattan. Okay. It's incomprehensible to me, because I'm not in this world. How is it possible that you could have district attorneys that would say things like, I mean, it is like they are patently working for evil and for crime. I really don't understand. In what world does that make sense, what you just said? You know, it's tough for me to get in the mindset of Alvin Bragg. I can't tell you exactly what he's thinking,

except for the fact that he chose political power over making sure he protected New Yorkers and did the right things. And I think we can learn a whole lot from Christ's teachings on that. And we saw it with Pilot. We've seen it with so many others in the Bible that shows power over actually doing the right thing for their people. And so to me, that's one thing that's a good example. It's like I said, it's tough for me to get in his mindset. I'd much rather just give him his pink slip on day one and say, let's do everything that we're doing to protect New York.

But, I mean, it's just a level of madness. I mean, I see the deterioration here in New York City. It's been dramatic. Yeah. It's nothing like it was before your father became the mayor, but we're getting there. I'm seeing things on the street in the nice neighborhood where I live, Upper East Side. You know, you think, wow, this is changing month by month. It's just kind of bizarre that there are people like this DA who would put that kind of information out there.

It's like, I mean, let's be clear. It is literally the opposite of the broken windows theory that your father put in. father said, no matter what you do, we're coming after you. It creates a climate like law, abiding, citizenry, we're going to all, we're going to keep the city clean, we're going to keep the city safe. It sends a message. This sends dramatically the opposite message. You know, when you think about the homeless in New York, we've been told by the left that it's not compassionate to ask them not to live on the streets. I think it's actually the exact opposite. If your brother or sister, let's say, was rotting away, maybe had a drug addiction problem, or was mentally,

that's mental issues, would it be compassionate to watch them literally melt into the street or freeze to death? So to me, this is a matter of doing what's compassionate to our fellow New Yorkers over here and making sure we're doing everything we can for a policy perspective to protect them. This is basic common sense. We'll have you back on Friday. Ladies and gentlemen, June 28th is the New York primary. This is vital. for the country, okay? Because New York's a bellwether state. Very, very important. The website, save n.y.org. I hope somebody who can write a check will go to save ny.org. New York needs your help. America needs your help. Andrew Giuliani, God bless you. Thank you. Eric, thank you as always for having me.