The Eric Metaxas Show - Antonio Sabato Jr. and Dennis Prager

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

Antonio Sabato, Jr., relays what happened to his acting career after announcing support for Trump; and Dennis Prager has a new project, "CancelCon," to add to his collaboration with Adam Carolla, "No Safe Spaces."

show. It's the show that Mark Twain once called Smartern, a Blue J, what can talk possum, and faster than naked fat man riding a bolts of lightning. So here's your plain spoken homespun host, Eric Mataxis. Folks, it's the Eric Mataxis show. I have the privilege of talking to somebody I've not met till today. His name is Antonio Sabato Jr. Some of you know who he is. He's a good-looking man, and I hate to have on people here that are good-looking, better-looking than me. because I'm pretty. I'm so pretty that generally this doesn't happen. But seriously, Antonio Sabato, it is just a joy. I know your story. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. It's my pleasure to be here with you, man. You have a book out now called the Sabato, the untold story. So, yes,

exactly. Sabato, the untold story right here. And so to prevent me from talking more and blithering, tell us what is this story? Because there's some folks out here who, don't know anything about you. What is this story? There's a lot of amazing stories, inspirational stories that happened to me and my family coming from another country. What happened to my mother and my grandparents doing World War II and the Russians invading the Czech Republic during the 60s and 70s and the Communist Party just really affecting my family, the struggles being an entertainment business for so long, all the stories that go with it, which are fascinating to itself, people that I've dated. Also, the blacklisting

surviving that and just starting a new life in Florida and falling in love. There's a lot of, you know, I've witnessed death with my own eyes, been through a lot of hard times, a lot of beautiful times, and I gave my praise to Jesus Christ, you know, and I just, I think there was just a lot to tell, and hopefully I'll be able to help a lot of folks out there that maybe are down and out, I mean, a little bit of a push and a different perspective. Antonio, let me just jump in to clarify here. You grew up in Europe in Italy. Right.

You are Italian. Right. You've got those good Italian looks. And you, your parents, were in Czechoslovakia. Explain that. Because I just want my audience. My mother, yeah, my mother was born in Prague. And my dad was born in outside of Palermo in Montelope in Sicily.

And me and my sister were born in Rome. So I'm half Czech. I'm an Italian Jew. They gave my life to Christ years later. My father is Italian. So I have an Italian citizenship. I also have an American citizen, of course. I became an American citizen in the 90s.

Very proud of that. But the story of my mother was, you know, I used to go and visit Prague as a little boy. We used to drive from Italy back and forth. And I used to remember, I tell stories in the book about crossing over the border. And there were tanks. There was Communist Party. There was a big red flag with a hammer on it. And every time we would leave the country to go back to Italy, all my stuff were taken away.

All the soldiers would go through the car, would take my toys, my personal belonging books, anything that they wanted to take, they would take away from us. And I talk about socialism and communism and what is done to my family. And especially my grandmother, you know, she was killed by the Russians years later in Prague, gunpoint in her apartment. And I talk about that. So a lot of, you know, harsh things that happened to my family. on both my father and my mother's side, and I talk about it. People need to know about it. One of the things I also want to clarify, because, again, there's so much here that it could be confusing.

Your family was a big deal in the Italian movie industry. Tell us about that. My father was an actor for many years. It became a really big sensation after Grand Prix, which was a movie that John Frank and Imer and MGM produced back in the 60s, won three Academy Awards, and my father plays one of the lead characters. Nino Barlini, he plays a Formula One driver, and that just catapulted him to another level.

And I talk about stories about him having a contract with the MGM and refusing to sign it and talk about just staying in Italy and just being proud of being an Italian. He should have came here, but he didn't. And then when years later he came back here to start a new career, as a much older actor, nobody was there for him in Hollywood. I talk about that too. So a lot of compelling stories and a lot of wonderful stories at the end.

You know, after everything else, it's been. But at the heart of it, again, just so people are tracking, is that you give your life to Jesus. You have conservative politics. And you paid a gigantic price in Hollywood. I mean, to me, that's kind of the lead here because everybody knows this stuff goes on, but we rarely get to hear from the people who have paid that price. Well, they bully you know, Hollywood has a lot of power, you know, a lot of money, and they can make decisions, they can talk to casting directors, they can talk to, you know, everybody wants to be in that hurt, you know, if the Hollywood, the major Hollywood key players say certain things, we got to follow what they say, because if I disagree with them, I won't work in this industry, I will be kicked out, or it will be blacklisted. And that's wrong. We should all be equal and talk about things, but these people on the far left, they take it a whole new level. And I felt that it was compelling to talk about it because I'm not afraid of them.

And that's why I'm starting my own studio. That's why I'm starting my own production company that's going to work with that. And I've done a lot of things to create my own future and rely on the man upstairs and the will to survive rather than Hollywood itself. Well, it's amazing. I mean, I know your story is that you were in a lot of movies. You were in, I mean, how many movies were you in? I've done a lot of probably close to 100 productions between soap operas, movies, TV shows, commercials. I'm still doing films right now.

I am actually pre-production on Trailblazers, which I'm going to produce and direct with a wonderful cast of people, friends of mine. And, you know, I finished three films. I finished one in Arizona, Carolina's Calling, which just I think I finished a few weeks ago. And I'm working. I'm doing it, no matter what, you know. And listen, at a time of my life, I was against the wall. You know, I had to start a new life. You know, I had to start working in construction.

I work with CNC concrete pumping here in Florida. I do other things to maintain money coming so I can take care of my kids. I mean, Hollywood really did some really bad stuff to me. And now I have a book. I'm in love. I'm doing great. My kids are closer to me than never. And I'm still working.

So I'm very blessed. Well, when did you, at what point in your life did you give your life to God? I mean, where did that happen? for you. How did that happen? A lot of times, you know, and a lot of times I failed when I thought I was going to give my life to Christ. You know, we fail and we succeed and we fail and we succeed. You know, we just, it's up and down. And then I was saying in the last 10 years, I really devoted myself to Christ in a whole different level. I have a, I have a commitment. I have a relationship with him that is really strong. And I've always had it. But I think as a grown man and what I've

been through now, it's just really fulfilled itself. And I feel great. It's kind of funny because you don't hear those stories a lot. A lot of times, you know, we want this dramatic narrative, you know, I'm a crackhead, and then one day I lay down the crack pipe and everything's different. And the reality for a lot of people is very, very different. So thanks for being honest about that. And, you know, I know that being a conservative in Hollywood on any level is just something that I know so many people that keep their mouths shut about it because they know they will lose jobs. You said that you are starting a studio. Tell us about that, because this is very exciting to me. Well, I want to make pictures that support our law enforcement. I want to make pictures that support

a military, a flag, our constitution, the history of this country. And I also want to make movies about the reality of all the things that have happened to our president as well, which Hollywood will never make and we'll never do. So how do we do that? How do we accomplish that by raising money to produce our films by raising money to produce and create a studio. And this is what I'm doing. I'm contacting people. My production company is contacting people and putting people together. I raised about a million bucks right now. I need to raise about five more to produce trailblazers and we're by ourselves. You know, so I talk about it to people. I said, you, you call yourself a patriot. You want to make these kinds of films. You want to support films and support maybe Christ or a flag or

things that you really are attached to as an American, well, come on board. Get in touch with me and let's work together. And that's what I've been doing and I'm not going to stop. This is exactly the kind of thing. You don't know me, but I've been talking about this for now decades, that Christians and conservatives tend not to get this. They tend not to understand the cultural peace. And the cultural piece, the left has uniquely understood and they've had a monopoly in the culture, and this has been tragic, and we're seeing the fruit of it right now, that if you do not invest in the culture with ideas regarding America and patriotism and faith and all these kinds of things, then you can forget about it.

So I just love the idea that you're awake to this as am I. We're going to be right back, folks. I'm talking to the author of Sabato, The Untold Story, Don't Go Away. Tell you chum, it's time to come blow your horn. I am talking to Antonio Sabato Jr. Not to be confused with his father, Antonio Sabato Senior. They're different people. One is older than the other.

I don't know which is which. But Antonio Sabato Jr., you have a book out. You decided it was time to write the story of your life. It's called Sabato, the Untold Story. There is such crazy stuff in here. I mean, it says that murder, arson attack, really, it is an unbelievable story, starting with the beginning of growing up in Europe, seeing communism. I keep saying because my parents saw communism in Europe growing up that those who have seen it appreciate American-style freedom in a way that no one else does, that we have a love for America because we've seen it. the hideous alternative.

Right. 100%. People are so spoiled in this country. They have no idea what socialism is. And they're very ignorant to the fact that they confuse

socialism with socializing programs, which are two different things. Socialism, which is what the far left, actually the Democratic Party is promoting on a daily basis plus violence and everything else. We can't allow that to happen. That's why as soon as you take out God

out of our schools, out of our family, and take family out of our daily life and take out those principles and make this country great, you're left by yourself trusting these politicians and you're voting for these people promising the world to you and nothing happens.

I mean, California is literally burning down to the ground, not so much for the fires that happens every single year. It's from the people in government. In government, they take advantage of the American people. We have to rise up to that. We need to get back to promoting our police officers. There are good folks that are risking our lives. We need to start promoting how dignity for our flag and our country and our God,

which made this country strong. And when you let those things go and you keep believing the flesh, what you see is what you hear on CNN 24 hours a day, you're bound to go into the darkness because you start believing these lies. And we need to start getting back on the ground and start believing on things that matter like God itself. I got to ask you when your family had to leave Italy, because of this arson attack. Can you tell us about that? I'm not really clear on what happened there.

Why were you attacked that way? Well, I didn't know. I growing up, once again, as a little boy, I didn't know. But my house, our apartment, which was where we lived, we had our belonging, everything we ever had as a little boy burned down to the ground. And my parents knew that day, and they told me much later that it was actually done on purpose. And you find out in the book why it was done on purpose. And I remember being on stranded with my sister and my father and my mother looking at our house burning down to the ground. We didn't have friends that came on board to help us out.

All those so-called friends that my father helped out in the industry and the movie business, nobody was there. And we talk about a specific story that when you're stranded and you're praying and you I'm talking about you lost your clothes, you lost everything you ever had because it burned to the ground like an oven, gigantic amount of flames that destroyed everything. a stranger that we met a few days later helped us out and invited us into their home to take care of us. Did your father have enemies in the business or in government? Yeah, my father had enemies in the business. My mother had enemies in the business.

You know, when you speak out against socialism, look what happened to me. It's a perfect example and so many other people that, you know, speak about God or speak about, you know, things that they disagree with. They will put you in your place or they'll try. to. And it happened back then and it's happening now. Well, and also we've neglected to mention, I mean, you have such a crazy career. I hope people will read the book, Sabato, The Untold Story, but you were the face of Calvin Klein. I mean, you're not just a pretty face. You had a pretty body and you were all over billboards and stuff. This is in the 90s. Yeah, it was in 90s. How did that come up,

come about because I got a pretty body. Nobody's approaching me. Not yet. After today, they will. But what happened to me, I was just, I wanted to be in show business. I wanted to make movies. And one of the films that I did back then in the 90s was a movie called If Looks Could Kill, which is a true story about a character that was wanted by the FBI.

And anyway, so it was a popular film that Calvin Klein got the chance to see. And he said, well, I mean, you know, I'm doing the next campaign of Calman. Let's see what this actor into. Tony, I love to meet him, and I went to New York, and me and him became best friends. I mean, ever since, he's one of the nicest guys. I love Calvin, and we end up doing three amazing campaigns, the longest for a male celebrity, and that was one of my blessings in my life to work with Calvin. I'm not, I just have to be in the interest of full disclosure.

I'm not a fan of Calvin Klein. I think he has done tremendous things to corrupt American culture, but don't tell him, I said that because, you know, he's older now. he doesn't need the grief. I was a good man and he had a good campaign, campaigns many, and now he's just chilling out, retired. Yeah, yeah, now that Satan has used him to wreck America. But listen, we don't need to go into that, okay?

You have no part in this, all right? No, I hope not. Let me ask you, so were you before Marky Mark? I was after Mark Wahlberg, yeah, I was after Mark Wahlberg. Who has bigger guns, biceps today? You or Mark Wahlberg? I don't know. We would have to check it out.

We would have to go and go good a workout. You know, Mark, you see this? Let's get a workout and see what's up. Well, let me, now, don't you find it interesting that Mark Wahlberg also has become very serious about his Christian faith? It's kind of funny. There's an irony, if you don't mind my pointing that out, that the two of you have become very serious about your faith. Well, you know, someday we're going to have to face the man upstairs. And I hope that, you know, he will know that I'm allowed in the gates of heaven because my life is that he's steady.

to one man and that's Christ, the son of God. And I don't know, I think as you get older, you start seeing what's important. That's important to me. It makes me a better person, my relationship, my personal relationship with Christ, and I share it because it makes it a better person, you know. There's no doubt about that. So was it as a result of the Calvin Klein campaign that you got this big soap opera opportunity?

I tell people, because I know there's a lot of people who would be familiar with you from the soaps. No, that was before. I actually, General Hospital became, I was on GH and I became a really popular character from 92 to 94. And that Call and Klein came after that. So I've been blessed. I've done, I've done really, I've done all kinds of stuff and I'm still doing it now. And I'm going to continue to. We want to know what are Luke and Laura really like. Could you tell the audience? Well, I only, I only work with Tony, with Luke for a little bit after that. But I don't, the Luke and Laura were before. before my day. I'm a shame that I even know that to ask. I know, right? We're going to edit that out.

We're going to edit that out because it's my show. So when you talk about living and reliving the American dream, you know, we both know, my audience knows that a lot of people have denigrated the American dream. What do you say to people who not only don't love America, but hate America? They chant death to America in the streets. How is it possible in a country like this that this can happen?

I think it's just, it's a disgrace, to say the least. This country is the greatest country on Mother Earth has helped so many people, so many countries getting back together. And it's still, to this day, we have our soldiers placed all over the world, helping everyone else. And that's just who we stand for. We stand for freedom and dignity and honor and our flag. and that to me is personal.

So I don't know if I can change a lot of opinions out there, especially when they're talking about burning the flag and things like that, but I can tell you one thing, this country is everything to me, and I'm not going to let that happen. If I can do it individually, if I can do it by selling more books

and getting that across, but Americans are very, very blessed to be here. And maybe you should take a look at taking a trip to Venezuela and see how it is down there or other places around the world and see how fortunate we are to live here. I gave great respect to this nation. It's the best and number one in my book.

Well, again, I think that people who have come from the other side from someplace else like my folks and people like me who have seen the other side. I mean, when I was a kid, like you were describing, we took the train from West Germany to my mother's family's home in East Germany. And what I saw when I crossed across that border, machine guns, German Shepherd dogs,

guard towers, barbed wire. As a kid, I said to myself, we're entering a prison. The communist block is the world's largest prison. Now, of course, that would be China. But I have to say that, you know, those of us who have seen that, you'll never forget it. And I think most Americans haven't seen that, and they have a false view because of the media and that kind of thing.

We've just got moments left. What was it that got you to write this book, Sabato, The Untold Story? A combination of things. Just like I said, being against the wall, seeing death of my own eyes, you know, going through the last four years of being blacklisted and being treated, you know, in a bad manner for no reason. People that I had never met before in my industry peers, people that I looked up to call me names.

And I don't like that, you know, we need to speak out about what's going on in Hollywood. we need to really talk about that. People should not be treated that way by my peers because my political view is different. It's ridiculous. It's just childish. It's just I've never seen that before, you know. Look, none of us has, and it's one of the reasons that I wanted to have you on this program to hear from you. So congratulations, Antonio Sabato Jr. on the book.

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Did I mention that? Thank you. I have my friend, Dennis Prager, on this program. Dennis, I just said it to you privately. I'll say it to the world. You're an encouragement to me, I think to a lot of people. I think it's why you've been such a success in your particular line of work talking on the radio.

We're in some dark straits, some difficult straits as a nation. You know that. You talk about it. I know what I talk about it. Where do you see us heading? What is your feeling about this election coming up? I probably have the exact same feelings you have. So the only difference will be that I'll put it in my words,

as opposed to your words, but I suspect, like on almost every issue we see eye to eye, which is not common, by the way. We're sort of, we're outliers, both of us. We also march to the beat of our own drummers. We have a lot in common. We're the only people to have made Vice President Pence laugh in the last four years. True. That's true.

Oh, stop it. Now, come on. So you... What do I see? Okay, so. You still haven't answered my question. Use your own words. Use anybody's words.

Use Truman's words. I don't care. But go ahead. Ironically, I do use FDR's words, and I'm not an FDR fan. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, which was always regarded, which you said during the height of the depression, or the depths of the depression, and it was always regarded as such a great thing for a leader to say. but when this leader, our president right now,

when President Trump says, you can't be, what is it, preoccupied or obsessed, whatever the word is, with the virus, then he is mocked in the New York Times. So when he says you have to live life, that's awful. When FDR said it, that was noble. It was a different country.

Let's face it. That's right. It was a different country. That is exactly right. I make this clear to younger people, and much of my work is with young people because of Prager You. And I tell them, quite honestly, I grew up in a different country than you did. For all intents and purposes, it was a different country. It was the land of the free and the home of the brave.

In 1968, 69, 100,000 Americans died of all ages. is not overwhelmingly over 80 and sick. Of all ages, nothing locked down. They had Woodstock, where there was certainly no social distancing. There was a sin to social distance at Woodstock. And that was at the height of that epidemic. What epidemic? I'm sorry, the Hong Kong flu.

Okay, I'm not kidding. I've completely forgotten about the Hong Kong flu. That's right. It was a blip. It was something that didn't even, but the Hong Kong flu is something that you're telling me killed how many Americans? 100,000 of all ages. That's 165,000 in our population terms.

So it's very close to what we lost and again, over all ages. And look, let's be honest that the figures that we're hearing are totally inflated. I mean, if you die in a motorcycle accident and you tested positive for COVID, That's a COVID death, right? It's like smoke. That's exactly right. Yeah. So, well, it's kind of funny because when you talk about a different America,

you're only going back to 68. But the fact of the matter is when someone like FDR said that, most Americans, you know, we're coming out of the Depression, it resonated with them. That's right. Today, obviously, many people are, they're living in fear. They have an ideology of fear. they don't have a they don't have a good idea they don't have a they don't have a good attitude about

life and death so they live in fear of death as though it could ever be avoided and and they live in fear of life the left the left fears everything that's why there are safe spaces on college campuses think about it what is a safe space it's an it's an intellectual equivalent of quarantine. It's unbelievable. It's hard for me to believe that they really exist and that people that ought to be getting married and raising families are sucking their thumbs in safe spaces. I think that's the difference between, you know, the America of the past and today. That's one difference. But Dennis, before I forget, there are a couple of things that you're involved in that I want to remind my listeners and viewers of.

Number one, no safe spaces. We've talked about it here. It's a documentary that you made with Adam Carolla. And it is available at SalemNow.com. If they use the code Eric, they get 20% off. But that is, of course, about free speech, at least. Yes. The film is a great film.

I don't say because I'm in it. It's not great because I'm in it. And I'm not Mr. Humble. I'm Mr. Honest. and it's just a great movie, period. Almost everyone who sees me, strangers, tells me that they saw the movie say they saw it at least twice. It's no safe spaces,

and it shows you, it predicted what we're now seeing. When Twitter will say, you cannot see a news article detrimental to the Democratic nominee for president, This is unprecedented in American history. No safe spaces said, you know what? It started on the campus. Take a look. Yeah. Well, that's, it remains to be seen what is going to happen. But when Twitter and Facebook did what they did last week with that New York Post story about

Hunter Biden, I have to say, honestly, that to me was an inflection point. I cannot believe that that happened. When we come back, we're talking to Dennis Prager. Why would you go away? Folks, welcome back. I told you you wouldn't go away. I'm talking to Dennis Prager, and I knew you'd be here, and here you are. So I was right. Dennis, you're so compelling. No one would dream of looking away from the car crash that is our conversation. Let me ask you, Facebook has been accused of canceling advertising for cancel con, an event, starring you and Ben Shapiro, a huge Jew and a small Jew. And that's what I love about you.

You're huge. Let me ask you, cancel con is an event that's happening. Facebook is accused of canceling advertising. Now, we're not going to say they're anti-Semitic, right? Because that's not the issue. What's the issue? That they think that you are just two bigots? Is that the idea?

Well, it's actually even more interesting. It's actually Ben Shapiro, Adam Carolla, myself, and Dave Rubin is the moderator. So they're anti, if you want, they're anti-gay, Dave Rubin's gay. They're anti-Atheist. Adam Carolla is an atheist. But the truth is they don't give a damn about gay, atheist, Jew. They give a damn about conservative values. That's what they want to suppress.

The greatest bigotry in this country is against conservative. and within that framework, the biggest is conservative Christians. And I'm saying this is a Jew. Conservative Christians are the most hated group in the United States of America. It dwarfs anti-Semitism. It dwarfs racism. Well, at this point, you're unfortunately right. But you know what's interesting?

I was at an event recently, sort of a Christian event. And when I spoke about why we need to vote for Trump, it was not about voting our self-interest. In other words, if I am a Christian, the reason I want my values to be promoted is because they're the values that will help everyone. In other words, to believe in religious liberty is not to believe just that I can worship in my church, but that the government has no business bothering people about whether they worship, how they worship.

They worship. Okay, you give it away, forgive me, Eric. You gave your values away when you said the government has no business in interfering. Just stop there. Not just with church. It has no business interfering in my life. That's what, that's the American ideal. Get the government out of people's.

Government running people's lives is the human norm, whether it is tribal, or whether it is a king in Europe. That is the human norm that some human beings control your life. Freedom is the aberration of human history. And as I point out all the time, it is not an instinct. People do not yearn to be free.

They yearn to be taken care of. Well, I, of course, wrote about this very eloquently in my book, if you can keep it. And I have to tell you that it was in some ways a revelation to me, in other words, to really think about freedom on the American model what a wild outlier it is in history. It's a bizarre outlier. It's a wild crazy idea that had never been pulled off in the history of the world. And then suddenly we get it. And, you know, 250 years later, we're taking it for granted because we don't even.

realize what it is or what we need to do. And you're right. The folks who are, they call themselves the left today, but they're standing against America, against freedom and liberty, but they hardly know what those things are. Let's be honest, they were not taught. They don't know what those things are. I want to find out about cancel con before we lose time here, Dennis. Cancelcon is an event. When is this event happening? Good question. Oh, you don't know. We have recorded it, and I would like to know, I don't know the answer. I can only tell you it is truly worth seeing. Okay, so it has been made, and it's going to be available,

but we don't know if it's available yet, I guess. Is that the idea? I feel silly, not knowing. You're like me. Well, anyway, but the point is. I thought the host would know. What am I going to say, folks? I thought he'd know.

You thought the host would know? That's funny, because I thought you would know. you're in it. Well, listen, here's the issue, though. Facebook has been accused of canceling advertising for this. That's the issue. That's the news issue. That big tech is so big. Well, Netflix would not, Netflix would stream child porn, but it wouldn't, it wouldn't stream no safe spaces. How do you maintain a smile in the face of this? This is so wicked to me that we in America. So when you asked me how I was before we went on, I said, I'll give you my answer that I give

everyone. I'm fine. My country isn't. Yeah. And so I walk around with great gratitude for my wonderful individual life and great worry about my wonderful country. And my getting depressed will not help this country. I'm a very pragmatic human being

I need to fight for this country if the guys if the guys at Normandy Beach died for it at 20 I could live for it at 70 that's my view you're not that old yet are you it's amazing no the truth is I find it a little amazing but a number is a number

I feel the same as I did at 26 I do more than I did at 26 but that's the number Well, look, you're a punk kid. Let me just tell you. I know you. And just in terms of wisdom, you're very, very young. But let me just say that what you just said, of course, is right out of the New Testament.

Truth is truth. We are commanded by God to rejoice in him always and to rejoice no matter what the circumstances are. And we're not in the Soviet gulag looking for rats to eat. And we need to thank God for what we. have and to thank God for the freedom that we have such that we're able still to fight. We're able still to speak and to do what we can do. And we'll just keep going, you know, until we don't have that ability anymore. And then we'll still praise God.

But people need to know that going to see no safe spaces, patronizing your sponsors. You, you good folks, you can't do nothing. and helping the fighters is as important as fighting. That's wow, Dennis. It's funny because I really say things like that, but it really is true. You and I need the help of the people that are listening right now. And we say that very seriously, folks.

We really do. We're not just saying that. We'll be right back final segment with my friend Dennis Prager. Folks, I'm talking to Dennis Crager. Have you heard of him? He's a radio host. He's part of the Salem Radio Network. We're videotaping this.

Did I say that? What are we doing? We're filming this. We're doing something. The point is that we can be seen on YouTube this minute, or we will be able to be seen soon. Dennis, you just said something that I think bears repeating. You said that you and I doing what we do,

we need the help of our listeners and our viewers that they would patronize our sponsors. I tell people if you go to mypillow.com, please use my code. Eric, why do I say that? Well, because we really do need your help in so many ways. But I think, Dennis, the fact that I go around the country just as you do and you bump into people who listen to you on the radio

and have been inspired or encouraged somehow. And it means so much to us, doesn't it? I mean, the idea that, you know, God would use us for his purposes, that's nothing small. It's a huge thing. Well, that's the animating belief of my life. I know I am, if you will, a theologian aside from other things. My Bible commentary is going into volume three coming out next year. I did Genesis and Exodus and doing Deuteronomy now.

and people ask me about prayer. And I tell them I never ask God for anything. I did, I didn't say never. I did twice in my life. And but I don't, I almost never do. What I want to know is not what God can do for me, but what I can do for God. So I'm very, I resonate to what you just said about, about God. I want to make clear about this helping fighters issue.

I often have said good people are divided into three groups. Those who fight, those who help the fighters, and those who do nothing. Those who do nothing is the largest group of good people. It's a sad fact. However, the good news is those who help the fighters are doing as much good as the fighters. Because without supplies, the troops can't fight. So the supply troops are as important as the front troops, the frontline troops. I'm a fighter, you're a fighter.

We need help. When I raise funds for Prager U, where they know Prager U's fighting. So you've got to donate, and people do. We've had the best year in our history in terms of raising donations. when you and I ask people to support ABF or whatever, or to buy a product, or to buy dog food. If you buy the dog food that's on a talk radio commercial,

you are making talk radio possible. The biggest difference between America and Europe is they don't have talk radio. That's amazing. That's amazing. I never thought of that. Yeah, I say that to every one of my European conservative guests, and they say you're absolutely right.

And you know why we have talk radio? We have talk radio because it's effortless to buy a radio station in the United States. You don't work for the government if you have a license. In Europe, you do. So we're the freest country. And they hate talk radio. There was just a column, Eric, in the New York Times last week, a column on how bad talk radio is for America. Maybe by God's grace, Trump will be reelected, and all of the European socialist types will move to Europe.

Wouldn't that be a sweet thing? Dennis, I'm sorry that we're out of time. We would buy their tickets. I would carry them physically if I could walk across the ocean. I'm sorry we're out of time so we can't continue to goof around. Dennis, Prager, my friend, God bless you. Great encouragement. Give my love to your third wife, please. let her know that I'm thinking of her.

So I will, and I'll speak, I'll see about a fourth.