The Eric Metaxas Show - Astronaut Charlie Duke (continue)

Episode Date: April 22, 2022

Astronaut Charlie Duke, the youngest man to walk on the moon, continues his stellar interview, revealing what he left behind on the moon, as well as what surprised him while exploring its surface.

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Where we get to, we get to interrupt my conversation with Charles Duke who walked on the moon 50 years ago today. Today, yeah. And we get to interrupt that and do an Ask Metaxus because every day it's our promise to you, folks, that we're going to answer your questions. Every week in the second hour of the program on Thursday. Is it Thursday? Yes, that's right. So that's today. So here it is.

This is now out of this world, ask metaxis. Let's just put it that way. Here we go. So you ask the questions. I will do that. I'll try to answer. Please do. Hello, this person writes.

I only recently became aware of your talk show. and joy and appreciate it. But can you briefly list your reasons for being against the vaccine and other restrictions placed upon us? These issues have divided my family, and I really don't know who to believe. Thank you. Wow, that's a big and serious question. I think it boils down to this.

While the whole COVID thing was going on, it became clear that the Burek, the leaders in the medical establishment, the CDC, Fauci and Company, it became pretty clear that they had what looked to me like contempt for American citizens in the way that they parsed out information in the way that they would say things. And if the actual facts contradicted it, they would sneer. In other words, they didn't seem to rise to the level of honesty and transparency that is utterly necessary when you're dealing with any crisis, much less a health crisis, because what is paramount is trust, is that people know that you're giving them the facts and that they can weigh the facts and make their own decisions. And I found it so amazing that all of the negative information about the vaccines

was suppressed. That if you tried to honestly, as we did on this program, say like, look, we don't have a dog in the fight, but we've read this and there's this and that. And people, YouTube, knocked us off the air. And I thought to myself, that's not how you behave if you have nothing to hide. You don't behave that way.

And so it made me increasingly suspicious. And then, of course, I heard of tons of people and read tons about action. adverse effects the vaccine. And I thought to myself, you know what, if you want to take a risk with something, that's on you. But the idea that they weren't talking about the risk. They weren't talking about everybody was sort of being bullied into this. It was despicable. It is a dark moment in American history that we've lived through and we're still to some extent living through it. But there was so much negative information that I thought to myself, a wise person would think

twice, three, and five times before they get this experimental jab, which wasn't even really a vaccine. So I actually thought to myself, you could get it and be fine, but you could also get it and maybe have all kinds of health problems. Then who do you complain to? So I thought wisdom would dictate that I, and most people I know, didn't get it because I thought, well, I'd rather just get COVID and I'll deal with it. And that's exactly what happened. And so, And you and I both know people personally who had adverse effects to the vaccine. Very adverse effects. And you're not allowed to talk about that.

And I just thought the idea that you're not allowed to talk about something is offensive to me. And so it's going to make me talk about it way more. And I also think that the idea of vaccine passports, the idea that in New York, you couldn't go into a restaurant unless you showed them your little Nazi papers. And I thought, how has America gotten to this point? I got to a restaurant. And the guy said that to me. The restaurant was almost empty, and I got really upset.

So I opened up my wall, and he said, oh, no, that's okay. Oh, it's okay. I've seen it. Go ahead. Go ahead. You know. Well, I have to say that people were put in such uncomfortable positions. And if you want to know what happened in Nazi Germany, when you, you know, all the good soldiers, like you have a job someplace and your boss tells you, make sure nobody comes in.

You become this enforcer. The whole thing was horrifying. Let's go on to something more pleasant. Something more cheerful. Okay. Number two. What are you working on right now? I'd have to say my pecks.

Yeah. Yeah. French press, really want to get to Schwarzenegger level pecks. Okay. So I'm going to go with pecks. Yeah, but I think they mean like, you know, writing a project or something you're writing. Oh, not? Not in terms of my bodybuilding regimen.

No, you look right, by the way, but no. Oh, um, nothing. Oh, actually, that's not true. I'm right in the middle of completing a manuscript for something that I have entitled Letter to the American Church. It's pretty serious. It deals with where we are now in the nation and how we as a nation, alas, have staggered into some of the same tremendous difficulties that the German church was facing. And the question is whether we will deal with it in the right way, because we know that they didn't.

And so far it's not looking good. And so I thought I have to write a book called Letter to the American Church. It should be out in the fall. And I sincerely covet your prayers, folks, because it's tough to write. I want to write a review on the back. It'll knock your socks off. Yeah, yeah. How's that?

So that's actually what I'm working on that. We're working on rebooting Socrates in the city. Great. We've got a lot of exciting plans for Socrates in the city. And then, you know, there's this little thing that we like to call a late-night talk show with my sidekick Albin Seder. But we can't talk about that right now. Let's go on to number three. Biggest fear, spiders, snakes? Biggest fear, spider snakes. Well, I've never like had a fovea about

bugs, but I can say I've never been fond of snakes. My father hates snakes so much that I think it's because in Greece they're poisonous. At least that's what I was told. But so growing up, you know, there'd be garter snakes, it'd be whatever, and you know, my father was not a fan of them, but a weird thing happened. Just a few years ago, at the dinner table

at some holiday, he suddenly said, he kind of basically said something along the lines of, I could imitate my father, he said, the poor thing, like he felt bad suddenly for the snakes, after years of telling us how he hates them, he says, the poor thing, he says,

actually he said this now, I'm not making this He says he has no arms to defend himself. He has no parents to tutor him. And I said, Dad, are you making this up? This is like a comedy routine. Anyway, yeah, I'm not a big fan of snakes. Okay. Do you think too much of something good makes it no longer exciting?

Well, it depends on what the good thing is, but I'll say generally yes. Okay. Favorite flavor of it. Ice cream. Okay, this is actually strange. This is like the thing with my father with the snakes, like where he always hated them. And then at one moment, he reveals this kind of tenderness toward these poor snakes. I always disliked mint chocolate chip. Oh, yeah. I don't know why. And then, about a year ago, I decided it was my favorite flavor. Wow. Now, is that the weirdest? like what? So I actually like a lot of different kinds of ice cream. I'm into the chocolates and

things. I go along. My favorite. This is such a sweet, literally sweet, happy question. Favorite flavor of ice cream. Yeah, I think Joe Biden and I like the same flavor. Chicken. What branch of Christianity do you associate with? None of them. None of them is good enough for me. Yeah, I don't believe in branches. Actually, it's interesting because people, you know, I'm interested in what's true. And so to my mind, nobody has monopoly on the truth. In other words, everybody who is genuinely Christian tends to focus on one thing or avoid another thing. So I'm kind of for what's ever true. So I learn things from the Eastern Orthodox tradition where the Catholic tradition, where the Catholic tradition. It doesn't make me say, you know, I'm going to become a Roman Catholic, but there's a lot

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inspireinsight.com. Go there. Hey, get rhythm. When you get the blues. Come on, get rhythm. When you get the blues, get a rock and roll feeling in your bones. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Charlie Duke, who landed on the moon 50 years ago. This, very day. It's kind of amazing that it's 50 years ago. Does it ever Charlie shock you the way time passes? I can tell it's been 50, excuse me, I can tell it's been 50 years because of, you know, the wrinkles and getting upstairs and stuff like that. But it's, I talk about it a lot. You know, we have our ministry and I speak to associations and clubs and organizations and so I tell the story and it

has kept it fresh in my mind. Yeah. My commander John has died about a few years ago and Mattingly has retired. I'm the only one left in the crew that's still telling that story and I'm trying to, you know, try to inspire young people to aim high and to. Thank beyond Z, and get them motivated in science and technology. And then I talked to organizations. I talked to churches and various Christian business groups and things like that,

and just tell my story about the walk on the moon is really good, but the walk with Jesus is forever, and it doesn't cost you anything. I had the privilege some years ago of meeting Buzz Aldrin, and asking him to his face when I met him about taking communion on the moon. I'd written about that in one of my books, and I was astonished to discover that that had happened and that almost no one knew about it, that the first food eaten on the moon is the body and blood of Jesus Christ, the first words read on the moon from the gospel of John, and Buzz Aldrin had done that. Have you spoken to him about your faith? Because I don't know that he is where you are.

Yes, we are good friends. He's basically out of circulation now. You know, he's 92, I think. And so he's slowing down a lot. But before he got to that situation, we've discussed, I've discussed my faith with him a lot. And he, you know, he did communion. There were other things done on the moon by other astronauts that Jim Irwin was a committed Christian. And he, he, you know, he did communion. And he, you know, he did communion. There were other things done on the moon by other astronauts that Jim Irwin was a committed Christian. And he, he quoted from the Psalms, Psalm 121 of Apollo 15. So Buzz and I talk about it, but I've never, and he's had a lot of trouble in his life since Apollo 11, but he's stabilized now. And he's got a calmness and a demeanor about him, and I think that he knows the Lord. and so we pray for him and others.

Well, I just think it's such an extraordinary thing. People need to know that in those first moments in July 20, 1969, what he was doing, taking communion and reading from the gospel of John. It's just an astonishing historical fact. Now, there's some crazy stuff. You took Buck Owens to the moon, true or four? false. True. This is not Buck Rogers in outer space. This is Buck Owens in outer space. Tell us about Buck Owens. Well, each astronaut, excuse me, each astronaut had a two hours of music. You could take

anything you wanted. So I had a disc jockey. I love country music. So I had a disc jockey. Two hours of country music. And the first half hour was Dolly Parton and Porter Wagner. And they did a special half hour for us. Charlie, thank you for taking us to the moon. And we look for, I hope you enjoy this program. And so we're riding along with you. So Porter Wagner and Dolly Parton did record it a special. This wasn't just their music. They recorded especially for you to take to the moon on a cassette tape. Yes, correct. And the second half hour was Merle Haggard and his band. And he did a whole half hour, all dedicated to us.

And then the third half hour was Buck Owens. And he did the same thing. The whole program was they did it just for us. And so that was really special. And then the final half hour was Chad Atkins and Jerry Reed. And so we had, there was a country music icons back in those days. And it was, and it resulted in some really close friendships as the years went by. You know, Buck's dead, man, Porter's dead.

Not on not Porter, but Merle's dead. I haven't followed that much anymore. But anyway, it's really a very special. John enjoyed it. enjoyed it. We enjoyed the music. And I have a neighbor that's a country music, a songwriter and a performer.

And he wrote a song based on that. Charlie Duke took country music to the moon. It's on one of his albums a few years ago. Well, there's, this all sounds very American, doesn't it? You know, going to the moon, taking some

country music. You also left a photo of your family on the moon. I assume that was intentional. I had wanted to get my family off. It was tough on the families doing the trouble. They lived in Houston, but we trained in Florida and all over the country. So to get the boys who were young at the time, one just seven, one almost five,

he had a pitch taken in our backyard and of the family. And I got permission to take it and leave it on the moon. And as a result, on the back job written, or we had written, this is the family of astronaut Charlie, who laid it on the moon in April, 1914, 1940. And we all signed it. So, Charlie, it is hard to imagine what it would be to a family, that their father would go on a journey like this. And so it's, of course, sweet that to this day, that photograph,

Since we've established there's no weather on the moon, we know it's sitting there precisely as you left it five zero years ago. That's right. It's still there, but the moon gets very hot as the sun comes up. And the maximum temperature of our landing stake was probably 350 degrees Fahrenheit. And then it gets very cold. Then cosmic radiation has been hitting the surface profiling. 50 years. So the photograph probably is just shriveled up in a little black bowl. I can tell you where I put it. I could find it, but you can't recognize it as a... Actually, I never would have

thought of that, but that's exactly right. But 350 degrees Fahrenheit, is that right? Maximum. Some areas of the moon, it's 400, maximum. But when you were there, obviously, you know, you're wearing this spacesuit. What was the temperature? I think most people would think that it would be incredibly cold? What was the temperature when you stepped out of the module? When we landed, the average temperature of the surface was 85 degrees Fahrenheit. As the sun got higher and higher and higher, the surface heats up. And so when we left, it was probably 235 degrees in our landing area average. But you don't feel it inside the suit. You don't, the problem inside the suit, you're getting hot because your body is exercising and you're moving

this spoof. And so you need a cooling system instead of a heating system on the inside of your suit, which we had. And we didn't notice the heat. The only time I noticed the heat is I picked up an aluminum structure experiment and I could feel the temperature through my gloves. And our gloves had a capability of resisting up to 250 degrees Fahrenheit. Wow. I have to ask you about the lunar rover. Getting in that sucker and buzzing around like on a dune buggy on the surface of the moon, it's just mind-blowing.

Was Apollo 16 the first time that there was a lunar rover or was there one on Apollo 15? There was one on Apollo 15. were the first. Excuse me. And then the, so when you get in, to get in, let me back up a little bit. With all of my gear on down here on the surface of the earth, I weighed 363 pounds. Up on the moon, only 60 pounds. So to get in the rover, you face forward on the rover, and I reached in, I'm on the right

side, and I reached in and grabbed hold of one of the antennas, and you just do a couple of bounces and you jump up in here and pull yourself in and you land on the seat but you're sort of straight. Then you buckle your seatbelt and pull and sit yourself in so that you're more vertical and you can see straight ahead. Hang on one second or go to another break. We're going to continue the conversation with General Charlie Duke when we come back. In case you haven't been paying attention, the Biden administration has caused a financial crisis and they have no clue how to fix it. Oil prices have skyrocketed, and when oil prices go up, the cost of transportation and shipping spikes, leading the prices of goods to rise. And when we're already seeing record inflation,

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Folks, welcome back. You know, they can put a man on the moon, but they can't design a pillow that's comfortable. Actually, I take that back. My friend Mike Lindell designed a comfortable pillow. You probably want to go to Mypillow.com. Use the code Eric, otherwise you won't get the discount. He's also invented towels.

It's amazing the technology we have today, inventing towels and pillows. But we're talking about technology. He had 50 years ago with a man who 50 years ago today walked on the surface of the moon. And so Charlie Duke, you said that you get into this lunar rover. And again, it's very hard for us to imagine the freedom. You're literally on the surface of the moon and self-contained space suit.

And you're driving around. How far were you able to go before you start worrying about getting back? We thought a lot about how far we should go. being the second rover, we decided to limit ourselves to about five miles. And we practiced down here in a simulated linear gravity that we could walk back five miles. And so the objective was to drive us out to the limit five miles and then start working your way back and exploring that traverse. And so we drove a total of almost 27 miles, no, 17 miles, 27 kilometers.

And maximum speed we hit was probably 15 miles an hour. And it was a bumpy ride, but the suit belts keep you in, and it bounces a lot. And the steering is real sensitive, so you're fish tailing a lot. but it never felt like it was going to roll over on us. We spun out a couple of times, 180, but it was a fun ride and a great way to explore the moon. Prior to the rover, you know, you walked 500 yards and that was it. I was going to say that's, so trying to walk in those suits is obviously not easy.

No, it's not, but you get in a mode. One-six gravity, it's a, A little easier. You sort of Frankenstein walk and you keep going. And if you're going up a hill, you sort of hop. If you're going down a hill, you sort of skip. Each person had its own individual scheme about how you motivated on your feet. A little bit different to everybody, but that's the way I did it, and it was comfortable for me. So what was your assignment? Obviously, you're there for scientific purposes, experiments. What are some of the experiments you conducted on the moon 50 years ago today in this?

Our experiment package had two seismic experiments. It had a magnetometer. It had a heat flow experiment, and it had one other that I can't remember now. But there were five or six experiments on that. Then as we traversed around and stopped and sample rocks, we also had some more experiments. We had a penetrometer. How far can you push this thing into the moon? We had a drill that we drilled down 10 feet.

10 feet? You drilled down 10 feet into the surface of the moon. What's down there? It's still very loose material, but it compacts very quickly because it's very angular. It's actually pulverized rock, though we called it the lunar regolith or lunar dust. Some areas it was hard as this table that I'm sitting in front of. But other places you could drill down 10 feet or more. But that was our limit, was 10 feet.

So we brought it back, and when we sectioned it, it was still dusty all the way down. But one spot we went, it was like walking on the tabletop. There was hardly any dust at all. There was a fresh crater where we, that was where we stopped that time. So it buried, but you never sank in more than just a few inches because of the bearing strength. You stepped on it, it compressed and then locked up and had a good bearing strength. You obviously didn't find any fossils while you were digging. No.

Did you find anything that surprised you? Yeah, we were told it would, the geology was to two volcanic flows in the Descartes Highlands. And we would find these two types of volcanic rocks was the geological interpretation from the photograph. There were no volcanic rocks. They were mostly rocks that had formed slowly. there were breaches, fragments of some botanics, but the matrix of the rock was totally different than where Neil Armstrong had landed or any of the other landing.

So the geologists got very, very excited with 211 pounds of the rock that we brought back. So no igneous rocks? Yeah, we had some igneous rocks, but it was very, very fine grain. Nothing like, nothing like, quartz and things like that you find in the Rocky Mountains. No big crystals, just very, very fine crystals. And a lot of breaches, which are conglomerates of rocks that are there.

It was real surprising to the geologists, but then they were very excited about it because that was the only landing had those kind of rocks. And how many pounds? Do you know the answer? How many pounds of lunar rocks are currently? planet Earth? How many did we haul back over the years? It's probably, I would, totally be brought back with

600 and something pounds in all of Apollo. And probably maybe half have been given away for experimental purposes. But there's still a big cash of lunar rocks remaining. And it, and they're doled out to scientists and geologists all over the world.

We're going to go to a final break and stay tuned for a final segment with Charles Duke on the 50th anniversary of his walking on the moon. Hey, folks, if you listen to this program, of course, you've heard me talk at infinitum about my pillow and my friend Mike Lindell. Well, Mike has just announced that you will receive one of his books and the book is next level insane. It is called What Are the Odds from Crack Addict to CEO? It's his story. You will receive it absolutely free with any purchase using the promo code Eric. Did you hear that? It would be a great time, by the way, to buy his warm and wonderful My Slippers.

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such as individual towels, blankets, comforters, and much more. Or call 800, 978, 3097. That's 800, 978, 3057. To use the promo code, Eric. Hey there, folks. I'm talking to Charles Duke 50 years ago on this day, he walked on the lunar surface. General Duke, did you ever think that, you know, just, looking into the future, that there'd be a moment when you'd be in your mid-80s, looking back 50 years.

It just is an amazing thing because, you know, those of us who were alive at that time, I think many of us just thought, well, we're just going to keep going to the moon. But did you already know, for example, when you were on the moon, that there was only one more planned Apollo mission? Yes, we did. The final three missions were canceled by NASA. the headquarters. And so we knew that we were next to last. And everybody bemoaned the fact that we were going to give up and not use up the rest of the vehicles. But that was the decision.

NASA decided we've learned a lot about the moon and let's go to space station and space shuttle and use that for the next 30 years. Turned out. I don't think anybody thought it was going to last that long the shuttle, but that's what it turned up. But now NASA is looking back, going back to the moon with a program called Artemis, which is due to launch the first experimental ones, test flights, let me put it that way, sometime this decade early in probably 2025. I mean, you mentioned at the beginning of the program. It's the first that I heard of it, unless I heard of it and forgot it.

But that's an amazing thing that we are currently planning to go to the moon again. And first, I guess, we sent up a monkey just to make sure it's. safe or how do we do that? Well, no. We know the moon is safe. We've been there six times and what we need to do is learn how to land it safely. They want to go to the South Pole, which is more daylight and more in sunlight and it would be a cooler environment down there and to see exactly what that's like. the whole basis of the Artemis program is to slowly build up the lunar capability into a scientific base and then exploration of that area of the moon and have a permanent presence on the moon.

The cycle crews back and forth and supplies back and forth over the next higher-of-a-law. How amazing. I mean, I'm astonished to hear this, and I'm glad to hear this. I know that your friend Buzz Aldrin for years has talked about how we need to get back into space and was an advocate of going to Mars, which of course is a much more significant layout of energy, money, planning, and how long would it take to get there more than a couple of days? Well, a trip to Mars is ten times harder than a trip to the moon. once you leave Earth orbit, you're on your own. And so you've got to be able to repair that spacecraft. It's a six-month journey there under the present propulsion capability. And then orbit, Mars, and then come back home.

And that's a year and a half maybe. And so everything's got to work. And the crew is exposed to cosmic radiation for all that duration. and it's going to be a psychological challenge, I think, because you're in daylight the whole time, and you have to artificial night. And there's just a lot of problems to overcome. But the human spirit, I think, is to explore.

God's given us, I think, a desire to explore his universe, and that's not only the heavens, but under the sea and microscopically and all of that. is an inquisitive nature about us. And I think that's God-given. And we'll see that continue as long as Jesus doesn't return. Do you ever get any pushback? I mean, you are a man of science, to say the least,

who is a man of profound faith. As you know, there's a false narrative out there in the culture that faith and science are somehow at odds. Obviously, for you, that's ridiculous. But do you ever get any pushback on that from people who can't imagine that you're a man of faith? Yeah, I've been to a couple of conferences where most of the scientists, not all, but most of the scientists are skeptics, some outright atheists. And to me, the argument is not science versus religion. the argument that they present is creation versus evolution.

So either, but those are terms that you can never prove scientifically. I believe in creation, but that's a belief. They believe in evolution. They can't prove it scientifically. There's no way that you can design an experiment in a lab to prove that creation is true. nor can I design an experiment in the lab that would say creation is true. So it's not a matter of science versus religion. It's a police system of creation versus evolution.

And that's where they've got to hang up. I think they just don't want to believe it as a God that has an infinite knowledge that can just speak it all into existence. But that's what the scriptures say, and I stand on the Word of God. And, uh, well, I would, I would say that science also points, uh, to a creator. We could talk about that another time. I'll send you a copy of my book, uh, on the subject, because I think the evidence from science has become absolutely overwhelming. Uh, and the only thing you can do is not look at it because I just think it's, uh, you know, the argument for, uh,

for a designer, you know, it seems, I agree with you. And, uh, and, uh, my grand, uh, my daughter Lord, Heidi, Duke, has sent me a copy of your book, Eric. And so that's the purpose of this conversation, not the purpose, but one of the reasons that we're talking together, Heidi is a good supporter of y'alls and a real strong believer. And she's given me a copy of the book. I haven't started yet, but I'll look forward to it. Well, I'm so grateful to her and to your son for connecting us. I was so excited when we met at some event. I can't remember it's a couple of years ago, but I just thought I'd be so honored to talk to you. Little did I dream that I would talk to you on the 50th anniversary of the day that you walked on

the moon. So I hope we can get you to New York or we can do a Socrates in the city event in person, but we'll have to leave it here for now. I am just so grateful to you, Charles Duke, for your time, for your service to this nation in walking on the moon 50 years ago today. Thank you, sir, and God bless you. And God bless you, Eric. Thank you very much. I've enjoyed it and look forward to come into Socrates in the city. Alvin, can we make this up? I can't.

I get to talk to Charlie Duke 50 years to the day after he walked on the moon. I know. You know that old joke, a woman said, like, if they could put a man on the moon, why can't they put them all up there? That's an oldie. I've not heard that one. My joke is like, you know. Different generation.

If they can put a man on the moon, how come they can't design a pillow that's comfortable? And then I thought, wait a minute. Our friend Mike Lindell did design a pillow. And if you go to Mypillow.com and use the code Eric, son of a gun, you get to use that technology. And it's incredible pillow technology. Like sweet tag. And so if you go to Mypillar.com or MyStore.com and use the code Eric. Now, Mike Lindel via MyStore.com and MyPillotcom is a special.

dot com is a sponsor of the program. And if you don't go there and use the code, Eric, I'm going to go out in a limb and say you're probably anti-science. Probably. Yes, because the technology involved in creating those pillows and the towels. Have you heard about the towels? Oh, we still have the same ones. We got two and a half years ago.

We just keep washing them and use them. The towels are the greatest. They are. That it is, it's almost scandalous. It's almost scandalous. They're so absorbing because Mike Lindell explained this on a Christmas special a couple years ago, that somehow, I mean, it's kind of funny that he knows this, but they started, you know, coating these towels with some stuff so that they felt good in the

store so people would buy them, but it made them less absorbent. And so he used space age technology folks to create towels that are so absorbent. It will scandalize the neighbors. But in order to buy any of this stuff, you have to go to mystore.com or mypillow.com. We recommend you do and use the code Eric. We should also remind you this month only. Oh, Neutrametics.com. Whatever you get there this month only, if you use the code Eric, you get 20% off.

Folks, I promise you, that is a huge savings. It's almost a third. I just did that in my head. Yes, you do. If you use the code Eric at neutromedics.com, this month only. Okay, so, you know, you got your melatonin, you got your stevia, you got your vitamin C, vitamin D, magnesium, potassium, whatever you take, all this great stuff. And I want to say this again, part of the reason we have the sponsors we do on this program is because we believe in the sponsors, we believe in the products, and because we know that they share our values. So when you give profits to somebody like nutrometics.com by using the code Eric, they take, take,

50% of their profits and use it for third world missions. Now, if you care about stuff like that, how amazing that you're buying extremely high quality nutraceuticals and you are giving to missions. And you and I and our wives take these every day. So we don't just, we stand behind it and we take the medication, by the way. And, oh, one other, oh, I want to mention this. Whose children are they at SalemNow.com? Okay, that we should have mentioned it.

And thank you for reminding me. SalemNow.com, as you know, we're on the Salem Radio Network, and my books are published by Salem Publishers. If you go to SalemNow.com, if you're looking for something to watch, okay, SalemNow.com's got a ton of great stuff. 2,000 mules, which is going to blow your mind. It will be at SalemNow.com. Right now, the film that is there is whose children are they.

and we need to start a movement in the country, folks, where every parent is an activist on behalf of our kids. And I would start by going to whose children are they.com or SalemNow.com where you can see whose children are they, because it gives you the information to see the level of Marxist indoctrination, the madness that has been happening with our tax dollars while we're not paying attention. We need to get serious. So go to Salem now, doctoration.

check it out or you can go to whose children are they dot com this has been such an exciting day i still can't believe i got to talk to charlie duke thank you jesus