The Eric Metaxas Show - Bevelyn Beatty (Encore)

Episode Date: August 24, 2021

Bevelyn Beatty talks about the brand-new documentary at SalemNOW.com called "The Great American Race Game," and looks at the pluses and minuses of the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's. (Encore Presentation)

to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. Welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show. I have to tell you, in case you're wondering, ladies and gentlemen, I just want to be clear, the world has gone insane. I want to be very clear. It's gone insane. It's horrifying. Here's the good news.

God is still on his throne. Now, if you don't believe that, you've got problems. I'm just letting you know. It happens to be true. That's the good news. But things, if you're wondering whether the world is descending into madness, obviously it is. And anyone who is not mad knows that that's happening. I think we have to look to God in a way that we don't normally do. Like I don't consider this a Christian program. If you listen to the program, you understand that. But I think when things are this bad, we just have to be blunt. So I'm going to be blunt in terms of what I'm thinking. And I'm going to say that when you have a president of the United States who wasn't elected by we the people behaving like a nut, like an anti-American, an enemy of the country, what are you supposed to conclude? Like, it's just a weird newsday? I don't think so. But anyway, we'll deal with this another time.

Today, we're re-airing my interview with Bevelin Beatty, which is amazing. and then we're re-airing my interview with Naomi Wolf, which is amazing. If you've heard them, you know that I'm not kidding. So Bebel and Beatty coming up, Naomi Wolf coming up, food for the poor. We still need you to go to metaxis talk.com. I'm asking you please go to metaxis talk.com. We need your help at Food for the Poor. We'll be talking about that later in the week.

Right now, I want to talk to my friend Jeff Myers. He's the head of Summit Ministries. Jeff Myers, welcome. Hey, Eric, great to be back on your show. Good to see you. Now, listen, we were talking about a poll the other day. I want to go back with you. Tell me, what is this thing about the elites trying to divide Americans? In other words, I get the impression that's true, but who are these elites and why would they want to be dividing the Americans? Well, the poll we did the other day with McLaughlin showed that 58% of people believe that America is divided because politicians divide us. 54% blame the media, the corporate media, and then 44% blame the social media.

So what the American people are saying to us is, yes, we know there is division and we know who is causing it. Now, that's largely the position of the average American and conservatives. Liberals are twice as likely as conservatives to blame the American people for the divisions that we have. maybe that's because they're in charge of the forces that they think that the conservatives think are dividing us. Yeah, they want to blame the American people, which is to say the white evangelical men who are evil. Just make a note of that. Okay, so Summit Ministries. I want people to know that you're the head of that.

They can go to summit.org. But let's talk more if you want to talk about that or about the other poll that you took with Trafalgar Group. I'd love to dive into that a little bit. Let's go. I think the question is, how do politicians divide us? How does the corporate media divide us? How does social media divide us? Politicians divide us just through their rhetoric.

When you see politicians using poll-driven applause lines and their speeches appearing on the media, they're not talking to all of Americans. They're not saying, hey, let's figure out a way we can solve these problems and come together. They're talking to their fundraisers. They're trying to talk to the people who would give them money. In the corporate media, it's very straightforward. You learned journalism in school. I took some journalism classes.

They teach you right away. There's a protagonist in every story. There is an antagonist in every story. No matter how complicated an issue is, make it really simple. It's one side versus another fighting. And then in social media, it's purely profit-driven. When Donald Trump's Facebook page got canceled, of course, Facebook took a huge hit to their stock portfolio.

I think they lost $26 billion. But within one quarter, they gained it all back because everybody who was angry at Donald Trump getting canceled from Facebook took to Facebook to talk about how disgruntled they were and they were served up advertisements the entire time Facebook profits soared. It's funny because we have to be clear that, you know, we're not against profits. We're not against capitalism. But when you take virtue out, when you take, the idea that we have to speak the truth and do what is right, and you put profits in front of it,

you create chaos, you destroy every good thing, you destroy freedom. So we have, I guess we're bearing the fruits, Jeff, of a couple of generations where we have not been really talking about truth and right and wrong in public schools in particular, but in the culture in particular. And so this is kind of where we go. And my theory is that apart from God, we're dead. I mean, I really mean that. I don't see any way out of this except people turning to God.

And I'm not normally this dramatic, but I think it's that bad. Eric, I think, well, you've written a lot about this. So this is something that we share in common. The division in America is not between red states and blue states or Republicans and Democrats or conservatives and liberals. It's between people who believe there is such a thing as true. and it can be known, and people who believe that truth is individual, that I speak my truth. There's a big difference between speaking my truth and speaking the truth. So it is a battle over truth. And my viewpoint on this is that, listen, truth is real. You can discover it.

Truth is not just a formula. It's not just a mathematical formula or a logical proposition. It's a person in the person of Jesus. And when I started to grasp how that was, true and I look back in history, I realize that every significant individual who changed the course of history and science, the arts, education, and everything else was someone who believed that. So unless we understand that truth is real and that it is also personal, I'm not sure what the way out is. And that's, of course, what you are about at summit.org. Folks, check out summit.org because I want to say that, you know, what the Bible says is true. Now, the funny thing is where it says things, for example, like God created us in his image, male and female.

There are a lot of people don't believe that that's God's truth. They think that's just an idea. But the farther away we get from that, the more chaos we see. I mean, the chaos we have now, again, anybody with common sense, anybody except an ideologue or a person running in fear from something, can see that this is just a madness that has been unleashed. But in a way, it's a clarifying moment. because you can see like, okay, you want to go with that?

Here's what you get. You have a poll there. We've just got a couple of minutes left about whether women should be drafted. Talk about that. Well, we didn't do a poll on whether women should be drafted. But this goes back to the question of, is there a difference between sex and gender? You hear this people say this all of the time. I was taught this when I was at the university.

There's a difference between sex and gender. We know that sexually there are 6,500 genetic. differences between men and women. That is a scientific fact. And it's simply the case that men are going to be better prepared for defending the nation when it comes to difficult combat situations than women. It's extremely unpopular to say that. And by the way, not just men, manly men.

Well, right. Yes, there's a psychological aspect of this, of course. If you give up on the idea that there is such a thing as truth, then everything is psychological. It's no longer what is actually so. It's what you feel about yourself in your head. And that's just not going to make for good warfighting. Anyone who says otherwise, I think, is just trying to tow the line. And people are afraid to say certain things. And I think it's part of my theme over the years. We become more and more obliged to speak the truth boldly. And so the idea that I would say women ought not to be drafted, people,

I don't want to say that. Well, why don't you want to say it? Because you don't believe it's true. No, I just don't. I'm afraid of the backlash. Well, folks, you better get over that quickly. You better start speaking the truth because as we can see, we're reaping the fruits of not speaking truth, of worrying what people think, of worrying about polling politicians do that. So it's just an amazingly clarifying moment. Jeff, we're already out of time. Folks, Summit Ministries, check it out summit.org. And let me remind you again that while the world's falling apart, you can do a couple of good things. You can pray, you can trust God, and you can do a good thing.

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You're just one of these people. As soon as I see you, I become an idiot. smile, I run, I hug you. I'm so happy to see you because you just, you just, you bless me. Bevel and Beatty, look, we got to, I met you, I guess you said through my friends, the Benham brothers originally. Yes. Yes. And you are, I don't even know how to describe you. You're pro-life activist, your big mouth for Jesus. How do we, how does somebody, if somebody's describing you, and I don't just know you as a friend, how do we describe you? Oh, man, a warrior in the Army of the Living God, I guess that's the best way. Well, I mean, look, we know that's true, but I'm saying on the resume, on the piece of paper, what does it say?

I mean, I'm an evangelist first and foremost. Okay. Evangelist, definitely an evangelist. Okay. Okay. Well, you became more well known because you, I don't know how to put it. When, describe to my audience, because you're a New Yorker, what happened? like a year ago, about a year ago? Yeah.

With the BLM, talk about this. Well, everyone knows me for defacing the quote-unquote mural placed in front of the Trump Towers on Fifth Avenue. Okay, so in front of Trump Towers on Fifth Avenue, there was a BLM mural like on the street. Yes. So how do they shut down Fifth Avenue to paint a BLM mural? They shut it down, and then afterwards they put barricades around it, and they put police officers directly there to protect it to make sure that it's not defaced.

And if it is, they had the city come out and repaint it the next day on y'all tax dollars. Okay, so you are that crazy woman. And that's why I love you because we need way more crazy. Yes, he do. And most people are timid. What made you so bold that, I mean, look, for people who are listening, you know, just to be clear, yes, you are black. So you bring a different perspective to BLM because so many white people are just like they're afraid to say anything. They're like, I'm not qualified to speak because I'm white, which is stupid.

It is stupid. But I can get that a little bit. But most black people who think the way you do and there's zillions of them, they're afraid to speak too. I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. My walk with Christ and who I am as a Christian, my identity and that. is first and foremost before black. Black didn't go on the cross for me. So any type of ideology or organization that is pushing a Antichrist agenda, it is my due diligence

to come against it as a Christian. So it doesn't matter whether you were a white Christian, an Asian Christian, a black Christian, Indian, wherever you came from. If this defies your ideologies in Christ and what you believe in, your foundation, you got to fight. Well, I'm an Asian Christian, as you know. And I guess when I heard that you had, that was a joke, Bevel and you feel free to let. When I heard that you, that you, it just becomes so stupid, doesn't it?

Like, I'm a this, I'm a that. Whatever. Like, who cares? Yeah. You know, you can't tell Paul's color when you read Romans. That's right. So, but when you did that, you went down there. What was this?

Was this May of last year? I can't remember. What was this? This was, I think, July. This is a few months before you got stabbed. Yes. We'll talk about that. You went there and you did this bold thing and you, as you put it, defaced it.

I think it was like a vast improvement. I think so, too. The state should give you tax money because of what you did. But that kind of put you on the map, right? Yeah, that did. And what did the shirt say that you were wearing when you did this? Jesus Matters. Jesus Matters.

Jesus Matters. That is straight up racist. I cannot believe you would say. thing like that. So that's kind of how you got to be known. But what cracks me up is I keep bumping into you. I was at this Cheon thing in Southern California. And boom, there's Bevelin Betty. What are you doing in Southern California? And then the other day, I was up in the Bronx for this fantastic Sean Foyt. Let Us Worship event. Who gets up on the stage? The woman looked just like Bevelin Bady, but it couldn't be. But it was. So it's just kind of funny. You're getting around.

Yeah, I'm getting around. Okay, we're here to talk about many things. But the main thing is there's a film coming out. Let's talk about that. Ah, the Great American Race Game. The Great American Race Game. And is that a documentary? Yes, it's a documentary by Martin Durkin, and he is well known for documentaries. Actually, he is the reason why the European, the United Kingdom got out of the EU. His documentary. What is his name? Martin Durkin. Martin Durkan. Okay, so this is a filmmaker. So the Great American Race Game, people can check out a trailer at Great American Racegame.com. Yes. And it says, according to my official document here, it says, it sparks conversation on race that the country

needs, and it features Larry Elder. Uh-oh. Uh-huh. That's the next governor of California. Oh. How do we love, can you even believe that Larry Elder? He was just a talk show host, just a bum, a nobody like me. Now he's running for the, I mean, it's kind of funny. He's running up against Bruce Jenner. But this is the part that's killing me. Because what I'm hearing about more is Bruce Jenner than Larry Elder. I just found out today he's running.

Right. Right. But I seen that Bruce Jenner was at the CPAC in Dallas. So, I mean, and then I also found out, you know, I guess the GOP is not endorsing Trump anymore because of the election fraud issues and claims like that. Yeah. So, I mean. Because the GOP is dead. The GOP is dead.

It's dead. It's dead. But I've been saying this. I've been saying this since January 6th. You've seen it die. All right. But with Larry Elda's stepping in, this is someone who has been a conservative from the beginning. He's never wavered in his views and in his stance.

I mean, if he was a rhino, we would have known by now. I feel like this is the guy we got to go for. We really don't have any options if you ask me. And he's been black most of his life. That's not a new thing. That's not a new thing. With Jenner, the woman thing, that's like recent. I got to check his baby pitches, but I think he's black.

Well, I'm going to tell you the fact that he, okay, so he's, He's in the film, Larry Elder, and we're going to have him on this program soon. Bob Woodson, another, like, mic drop. Bob Woodson, what more do you need to know? What a hero he is. We've had him on this program many times. So he's in the film. Glenn Lowry, I never met him, but another hero.

And Bevelin Beatty. Yeah. So when is this coming out officially so people can get psyched? It's June 20, yeah. Like, it's just, it's new now, isn't it? It's just out. It just got. out officially relaunched July 4th.

And so we're really trying to get people to get out and watch it because it really is going to expose that agenda with Black and the Democrats and how they utilize that to push their agenda, their narrative. Great American Racegame.com. Albin, is this on Salem now? Salem now.com. Okay, so we want it. The main thing, I want to promote that.

So it's, that's incredible. But what else is going on? Because you're involved in so many things, Bevelin. I mean, what should we talk about? Can we talk about the fact that you might have gotten married and didn't tell me? Can we talk about that? Oh, Lord. So, yes, I got married.

The thing is social media and just everybody's in our business. And me and my husband want to be. Husband? Whoa. Husband. Yeah, no, I met this guy. I saw you up in the Bronx holding hands with some guy. I was like, that's interesting.

What's that about? Then I found out you were just an old married couple. Yeah. But that's pretty cool. We're not going to share his first or last names. but he's right over there and I'm excited. This is a beautiful thing to hear. But that's very exciting.

But you are, you're so busy and you seem to be everywhere. So what are you doing in your life now? Like what is happening right now? Right now it's been just a lot of traveling, speaking engagements, really encouraging people and assisting with people that are breaking the ground as far as revival coming. I really don't know the next move. There's a bunch of different opportunities at hand.

but I'm trying to figure out what's the next best step to take. But I feel like we need to figure out a new party. I feel like we need to start putting kingdom people up in office and supporting them and really stepping away from just the Republican Party itself and setting up a new system for Christians to push. Kind of like that guy. What's the guy named that doesn't have any limbs? Nick Voicovich, I think.

You know what happened to him, right? No. His bank. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a new thing. Nick Voikovic, he has. no arms and no legs and he was at we were just at the the NRB I was going to say R&B NRB recently and he was there we didn't get to interview him but I saw him there and then I read

that he is so brave that he he was his bank canceled him because because of what because he's promoting and pushing and funding pro life mind you this man of of course he was born that way. He's like, listen, it doesn't matter how a person's born. They deserve a chance at life. He's a walking testimony. And so he's been pushing this pro-life agenda, and they don't like it. They don't like it. So they say, you know what, without any type of warning, any conversation they asked him. So what he did was he said, all right, I'm going to start my own bank. A pro-life bank that's going to be des, and it's going to be a for-profit bank. And the proceeds are going to go towards pro-life organizations that are actually pushing and funding the kingdom. So this is one example of someone who's divorced the world system and has opened up a new door for kingdom people. And I feel like he is setting a standard for what we need to do across the board. This is so beautiful. Folks, I'm talking to Bevelin Bady.

And we'll be right back. Hey, the folks. I'm talking to Bevelin Bady. So I know you're still with us because it's just... Bevlin, you're just fun. And I think it's the greatest testimony is we have that joy. You're not afraid. to speak the truth.

That's the way we're supposed to live. That's right. Jesus died literally so that we could live like that. And a lot of people aren't living that out. They still have a lot of fear and a lot of this and a lot of that. And you're not that way. And so it's just, you're just fun to talk to. And I can talk to you about anything.

So what are some of the hot topics? You said you wanted to talk about Pride Month. Pride Month. So black people only get 28 days. Only. But LGBTQ Pride Month is now the month of June. And Juneteenth, which is in June, cuts into Pride Month. So it's fundamentally homophobic.

We need to talk about that. So I'm going to say something that's groundbreaking and it's going to offend a lot of people. All right. The Civil Rights Movement was the worst thing to happen to this nation and to the black community. Why? Because the Civil Rights Movement pitiful. This LGBT narrative, and it's also pivoting this

pedophilia push as a form of sexuality. Follow me for a second. I'm going to have to. Go ahead. This is crazy, but I'm going to be real with you. People don't tune out because this always ends well, but you've got to hang in. It's heavy. So now, what you have to understand is, segregation was not in all of the United States of America. Right. It was only in the South. Correct. Right. So

let's talk about Harriet Tubman for a second. I'm going to use her as an example. She was a slave in Maryland. She traveled a hundred miles north to Philadelphia. The moment she touched Philadelphia, she was a free woman, right? So this tells you, in the north, obviously, since I found it fathers, there was no slavery. It always

was in the South. Okay? Jim Crow laws and all of this stuff, the segregation that we're doing, always in the South. Now, you may have had the North, people like Malcolm X and all of these people talk about it and take on the culture in a sense of the depravity of what was happening, but that wasn't their

portion, right? So now, Martin Luther King comes and he says, listen, we want to have the same abilities and the same access to what white people have. Right. But we had it. We had built our own schools. We had our own businesses. Our homes were solid, right? So now, civil rights comes in.

JFK dies and Lyndon Bain Johnson steps in. And he says, listen, I understand your struggle. We're going to make it equal for everybody. But we're also going to do a war on poverty. We're going to give you guys welfare, right? Now, there's two different things going on here. And first of all, for clarity's sake, Johnson, LBJ, he was a corrupt, I think in his case, you could say racist, basically. But he understood that there is going to be unbelievable political power if he goes along with this agenda.

And we have to tell people, most Democrats were against signing the Civil Rights Act. That's right. It was mainly a Republican thing. So you had entrenched racism in the Democratic Party going all the way back. Dinesh D'Souza and many others have clarified this recently. Yes. But many people have bought into this narrative that the Democratic Party is anti-racist and all this kind of stuff. And their history is different.

So it's kind of complicated. They've taken the credit from the Republicans. Obviously. And when you go to, I'm saying when you get to the 60s and the Civil Rights Act and that kind of thing, you have to be aware of how much. many different things are converging. So when you talk about this, I don't think you're saying that the Civil Rights Act itself was the problem. You're saying that it led to government overreach to the quote unquote war on poverty, which is the explosion of the federal government

to take over everyone's lives, particularly in the urban minority communities. It was like, like landing the plane of communism into the ghetto. There you go. But listen, let's talk about Jews, right? Yeah, let's talk about Jews. You're Jewish, right? Am I Jewish? Not that I know, I've been grafted in.

I've been adopted into the tribe. Okay. But I'm Greek and German. I'm a Gentile. I'm a goi. I'm a nice goi. All right. So follow me there.

Jews were also segregated against. It didn't just say no colors. It would also say at times no Jews. Yeah. But Jews have always known to build within their own community. This is a tradition that they've had since Moses time. So what the Jews did was they said, okay, you don't want us in your schools?

We'll build our own schools. Better. You don't want our banks? You don't want our banks? You don't want our banks? We're going to create our own business, and we're going to make sure to fund each other. And now we go knocking on their door for help.

They don't come looking for us. Could you imagine if the blacks had did the same, had focused more on building within themselves? We would have got our doors knocked on, But we were too busy focused on being included. And so in that, we forgot about what was happening at home. Now we have fatherlessness up to 78% in growing. Abortion 20, I'm going to say 23 million babies.

There's no way during COVID. Everybody's knocking boots and then they're getting pregnant. You think they're not running to the abortion clinic? I mean, we're killing each other left and right. And we're reaping what we've sown in our streets right now. There's death in our neighborhoods. Look at Chicago. I think 70 guys died this weekend.

Oh, it is. It is beyond belief. I had my friend Bob Mazzikowski here. He's a white guy opened up a school in the inner city in Chicago. He lives this. He knows the story on the ground that you never hear in the media. It is, I still can't get over that you could have this mayor, Lori Lightfoot. I mean, what do you?

I know, like, you can't even believe that she's the mayor. I'm still fighting her because we protested in front of her house. So while BLN was going out, looting and all of that, these guys got out and they're free. They dismissed the case. I'm still fighting that case right now. Yeah. With six other co-defendants. Where can people find you online?

Do you have a website? Atwellministries.org. Don't trust. I do have social media so you can look me up on Facebook and Instagram and stuff like that, but they shadow ban me like nobody's business. But to stay in relationship with me at well ministries. At well, at-we-E-L-L-L-Mistries.org. We'll be right back.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. talking to Bevelin Badey. Bevelin, you play the role of Bevelin Bady, I'll be the host. We're talking about a lot of stuff. I just have so much fun talking to you because you're unfiltered. It's like my buddy John's Mirac. I mean, just, we just lay it out. And we're living in a culture that's increasingly unable to deal with truth or even if something's like controversial. We don't want to be divisive. You know, we'd rather like sell our souls to the devil or become communist and go to jail, you know, rather than speak up for truth and freedom. And so, you

You're on all these different issues. So take us from, you know, you were pivoting from the civil rights movement in the 60s, which pretty quickly morphed into something else. Now, and listen, as much as I'm a fan of MLK, he, at the end of his life, he was kind of getting in bed with it. It was a social social case. Yes, he was. It was becoming, you know, more anti-Vietnam and more. Like he was kind of doing stuff that, I guess, opened the door to, you know,

buying into the Malcolm X version of the Black story rather than the MLK version. You want to know why that was so easy to happen? Yeah. Because we forgot about the gospel. The Bible says, greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world. The Bible also says, blessed are those who are persecuted for my namesake. They will see the kingdom of God. You know, we were strong Christians, all right?

stood on biblical values. And the moment we allowed government to step in and influence us, it dwindled down. Look, this is absolutely true, and I know this. And people don't talk about this much. No. When I wrote in my book Seven Women, I put in Rosa Parks. In my book Seven Men, I put in Jackie Robinson. What I didn't know until fairly recently, so I wrote those books, it's like they and most of the folks in the civil rights movement, in the 40s and the 50s, whatever, they were straight.

up evangelical, born again, Jesus believing Christians. That's right. And something happened in the 60s, and I can't blame Martin Luther King, but he did kind of open the door. It became co-opted by the government. Yes. And then you had the Black Panther Party who were always pro-China, pro-communists. You had all of these different, you know, nation of Islam coming in.

So it was just, it was easy to permeate because I don't believe the gospel was able to stand strong. Yes. the way it portrayed to be. And then on top of that, Martin Luther King wasn't really solid. Martin Luther King was sleeping around on his wife. What?

What? Come on. What? Salma. He wasn't really a hundred in some areas. You know what the FBI said? He wasn't really a hundred in some areas. Was that cultural appropriation for me to say a hundred?

You could say. I love the way you talk. I want to, you know, I just want to talk like you. But it's true. If I'm talking to like somebody, like a British Earl or I'm talking to you, I just start wanting to talk the way

because it's so. It's so much fun. He really wasn't, you know. Now that, when you say that, that's a fact. And when I heard that, that was really upsetting to me. That was upsetting to me. So then you see how the door can open. You know what I mean?

When you sold those seeds, they're going to be greets. So you're saying messing around on your spouse, you're saying that's not biblical? That's not biblical. Newsflash, Albin, can you believe this? I have to learn about this on my own program. You can't preach the gospel on one in and they'll be sleeping around on your spouse and committing adultery on another. It doesn't work that way. That's so disappointing.

And people aren't talking about that much because you hate to tarnish somebody's looking. And listen, to be fair, to play by the rules that we say, right, we're not about cancel culture, right? I can find things in George Washington's life that I don't like. I can find things. So we're all humans. We all make mistakes. And you don't get judged by the one thing. That's right.

Because Martin Luther King wrote a letter from the Birmingham jail. You don't throw that in the garbage because later on in life he's sleeping around. So we're not about that. But we also want to be clear. We want to be clear, we want to be honest so that we can look at those mistakes and not make them going forward because there's still a new movement that has to come. There has to be some type of kingdom movement where Christ is head. And we just don't want to make those same mistakes pushing. We don't want socialism to get in it.

We don't want communism to get in it. And we don't want the foundations of what we're building to be in sin. You understand what I'm saying? There has to be a new wave. It's called holiness. And so now because of that, we're pivoting LGBTQ and it's taken over. What do you mean we're pivoting LGBT? Who's pivoting?

You mean the culture? The culture. It's pushing it. I mean, it started with civil rights. It started with social justice. And now all of a sudden there's no more rights for the straight man and the Christian man. We're irrelevant. Well, but this is why I want to be clear, right?

What we're talking about is it's not so easy to see. In other words, you can see that if people aren't paying real attention and they don't understand history, they have this idea in their head, which is wrong. but they have this idea in their head that, you know, the gospel and the American freedoms given to us by the founders, by God, through the founders, that these things eventually open more and more doors. And so some of that's right, right? So injustices are made right. Wrongs are made right. And we move and we deal with our sins.

We deal with our sins toward the Native Americans. We deal with our historical sins against black Americans. We deal with this and we repent. and we move on in joy. That's right. But that idea has kind of, you can see how every good thing can go wrong. And when we're talking about this with regard to people's sexuality or how people identify what they are, whatever, then it becomes kind of sloppy. Yes.

And so it's one thing to say to somebody that I believe in the United States of America, if you want to do something that I disagree with in your house, you are free to do that. So if somebody wants to commit adultery behind closed doors, somebody wants to have sex outside of marriage, we're not as a government cracking down like the Taliban on that. Yes, free will. But neither do we say that's good. Yes. But something has happened. It's not become a right. It's not become a right.

The wrong has become a right. So that's what you're talking about with the Pride Month and with the movement. Yes. So now what, you know, in a sense, what they were doing for the. the black community was beautiful, and it opened up a door for us to have, I guess, equal opportunity, but we have to realize we did always have it. No one was literally hindering that. Then may have said, no, you can't have access to what we're doing, but it didn't mean you couldn't go and have make your own. Yes, it'd be one thing. If you can't have access to our stores, but you can't open up your own store,

now that's communism. That never happened in America. But now what they're telling you is, we can marry another man and be a man and you can't say anything about it because now if you say it's sin we're going to shut down your social media we're going to get you fired from your job we're going to totally stop any doors any avenues of your life if you come against this agenda

it was never like that this is communism and I also want to say just to be really clear that is anti-American in other words in America we have this thing called freedom of speech freedom of religion what that means means is the government has no right to tell me what I can say or what I can believe, even if they don't agree, even if I say something stupid. I have the right in America to say what I like, and that pressure that the government and now, via social media and the culture, to crush dissenting

voices, is trying to crush anybody with a biblical worldview. That is fundamentally un-American. That's not my point of view. We'll be right back. Folks, I'm talking to Bevelin Badey. Bevelin. Bevelin. Do you know anybody else on the planet named Bevelin? Actually, it's a lot of Filipino women named Bevelin. Really?

Yeah. What? I'm crazy. All right, well, look, you, we're talking about a lot of stuff. Should we talk about Bruce? Should we talk about Pride Month? We can get right into Bruce. I mean, straight from Pride to Bruce.

I mean, I'm going to say it just like this. This man has directly stepped down from his position as a man to be identified as a woman. Okay? God-given position as a man and as a head of his household and as a leader. He has mentally canceled himself from that position. Maybe it's too hard. Maybe he doesn't feel he can fit that. And so he said, I don't want to be a man. I want to be a woman. So I want to take a lesser position because I feel good doing that. And now this is the same man that you're going to make the governor of California? How does that make sense? That's not going to happen. We're going to let Larry Elder as a governor of California.

But no, it's just, listen, this stuff is always complicated. And we live in such a divided society that I want to kind of come into the middle of the Bruce thing and say, I've said it before in this program. My heart breaks for that man. Yes. Breaks for that man. Just as it breaks for anybody. Like, let's say you're struggling with your sexuality. And all you hear is you need to embrace.

that alternative sexuality and celebrate it and live that out. Nobody is saying to you, you don't need to do that. If you're a man with some same sexist, you do not need to go down that path if you don't want to. Nobody is saying that. And all you hear is one thing. So somebody like Bruce Jenner, nobody's saying to him, you need help. God loves you. And let's pray for you.

I mean, you and I were with Sean Foyt and my buddy Ken Fish the other day. I mean, there are people who can pray for inner healing, like really miraculous healing. Because somebody like that, I would just say, I don't know what's going on, but that man is in pain. He has been in pain his whole life. He needs real help. And instead of people giving him the fake help and telling him, go with that, and we'll be behind you. Charing him on to step up as a leader for others. He can have a mental breakdown at any given moment.

The same way he had a mental breakdown is that I can't be a man anymore. I can't be the leader of my household. He can say, you know what? I signed up to be governor. It's too hard. I can't take it. Oh, my God, I'm missing every now appointment. I got a gal.

It can literally go just like that. So do we really want, I mean, if a man can step down from being the leader in his own family, what makes you think he can uphold being a leader of the state of California? What are we doing? I don't know. I just think that Larry Elder is just going to, he's going to draw all the attention. And I don't think. He's since been, since been.

He ain't switched up. Larry Olda been since, Ben, since, Ben, since, Ben. So, I mean, I don't see why he ain't going to be now. Could you put that in English? Because I go up in a different part of New York than you did, and I don't understand what you just said. So, very elder been holding the crown. He's been holding the crown. He's been conservative.

He's been stepping up. He's been standing on his views for the longest. So he's equipped to do it, period point blank. And he grew up in California. That's his stomping grounds. He's seen how it shifted. He has a heart for California, I believe. He has the right mind to lead California.

He's the guy for the job. So you're going with Larry. I'm going with Larry. Larry Elder for governor. That's right. I mean, the fact that he is running, I'm so thrilled. I saw him at NRB not longer. We didn't get to hang out.

But when I found that out, I thought this is wonderful. You know what it is? You said this before about the Republican Party, whatever. I don't think we should leave the Republican Party. I think we should make the Republican Party be what it's supposed to be. because there are a lot of people, rhinos that are in it, that they might as well be, I mean, they are, they're just, their career politicians,

they don't really even understand what they believe. They just want power. They don't care. This is why I disagree with you. Well, that's fine. I'm going to tell you why I disagree. Uh-oh, get ready. Trump decided, okay, he said he's not going to start a new party, right?

Right. He said, I'm going to stick with the Republican Party. Yep. Right? But he came in with the same narrative. I'm going to drain the swamp. Well, yeah. Trump is not a politician, okay? He's a businessman, he's a leader, he's direct.

Okay? Politicians, they are, it's so many different curves and twists. I just realized we're out of time. We're going to come back with more. Don't go away.