The Eric Metaxas Show - Brad Stine (continued)

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Eric joined Brad Stines's podcast "Brad Stine Has Issues" last week. They discussed Eric's new book "Religionless Christianity" and politics as a part of your faith. 

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Anyway, here's the guy who's not always that easy to digest. Eric the Texas! Hey, the folks, welcome to the program. It is, I don't know, Monday. This past week, some of you already know this, but I had the pleasure of joining my friend, brilliant comedian, apologist, Brad Stein on his podcast. The podcast is called,

Bradstein has issues because Bradstein does have issues, but most of them are good issues. But anyway, he had me as his guest talking about my book, Religinalist, Christianity, and we had so much fun, we thought we would share that interview with you in both hours today. So you get to hear me cracking jokes and not cracking jokes with Bradstein. By the way, don't forget to visit bidinomics.com. Our friends at Americans for Prosperity have bought the website. to Bidenomics.com. Am I making this up? No, I'm not making this up.

I'm not making this up. Also, don't forget two things. Got to mention, our friend Jason Jones has written a book called The Great Campaign Against The Great Reset. Okay, Jason Jones,

award-winning film producer, human rights activist, genius, friend of Zmirak. He's written a book called The Great Campaign Against the Great Reset. It is newly available. And he explains in the book, just in case you want to know what it's about, how, you know, the globalist, atheists, maniacs on the left, I forgot Marxist, have, have, they call what they want to do to destroy the world and enslave us all. They want to destroy America. They call it the great reset, okay? You want to talk about hubris. It's in this case, unfortunately, literally satanic. hubris. So his book is titled The Great Campaign Against the Great Reset. And in his book,

The Great Campaign Against the Great Reset, he helps us understand what is happening, what it is, what is the Great Reset, and then how we can be part of the Great Campaign against the Great Reset, which we need to be. I also don't want to forget, man, we got some great stuff going on. Socrates in the city, we have an event. event in two weeks in New York City with the great biographer Ron White. He has written a number of books, extraordinary books. The one that you might know about is about Abraham Lincoln. I cannot wait. If you want to be part of that, you go to Socrates and the city.com. If you can actually be with us in New York, and I hope many of you can and I know people are

flying in, but you can watch it on the live stream. if you're a member of Socrates Plus. I hope everybody on the program wants to be a member and is already a member of Socrates Plus. All the live streams are included every time we have an event. It's included. I'm going to be doing some Socrates in the studio events, I guess, next week. Those are live streamed.

You can watch that, but you have to go to Socrates in the city.com and sign up for Socrates plus. But perhaps the most exciting thing of all is that, yes, Yesterday, at noon yesterday, Tuesday, we opened registration for our newly announced Socrates in Oxford retreat. We're taking the team over to Oxford, England. It's July 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th. It's in Oxford at the Randolph Hotel, which is an historic, gorgeous hotel in Oxford, England right across from the Ashmolean Museum. The Ashmolean Museum is itself like staggering.

There's so much in Oxford. I mean, just to be in Oxford, but to be in Oxford with like-minded people for the Socrates and the city retreat. We've never done a retreat like this. It's a four-day thing. It's four nights at the Randolph Hotel, you know, meals. I mean, the whole thing is. Sounds like a lot of fun, but there'll be no like trust falls or anything like.

that, right? No, fire walking. Tony Robbins kind of stuff. We had to cancel a firewalk. Yeah. You know why? Because I think it's hooey. Yeah. I'm not interested.

You know, honestly, anybody can firewalk if you walk fast enough, you know what I'm saying? And I'd be like sprinting across the coals. That's true. Anyway, but there's actually going to be a lot of kind of cool stuff around it, but I'm

interviewing six people. some of them twice. I think I can't figure it out yet, but some of them, Michael Ward who wrote a Planet Narnia, Alistair McGrath. I mean, he's a legend. He wrote the book Twilight of Atheism,

but a whole bunch, I can't, I don't have it all in front of me right now. But really, very, very impressive list of people, I have to say, it's pretty extraordinary. And, but we're working on just a few details, but the registration is open. And it will be limited, obviously. This is not like, you know, a cruise ship where you can fit 800 people.

I mean, at some point we have to shut it down. So if you're interested, go to the website today. Socrates in the city.com. Check it out. Please check it out. And, you know, share it with your friends because it's going to be pretty cool. We're going to be probably live streaming all of those too. so if you cannot come, you can watch it.

But I'm just thrilled. I mean, I can't believe that we put this together. We have a Socrates and City book coming out in the fall, a compilation of some of my favorite conversations. I've been editing that recently. So all of that is pretty amazing. Okay. So before we talk to Megan Basham, Regis, Giles,

and Kent Strang of Americans for Prosperity, I want to remind you, we're doing a fundraiser for Christian Solidarity International. This is where you get an opportunity to live out your faith. This is, I keep talking about this, that in every single way, we're supposed to live out our faith. Faith without works is dead. We have to live out our faith. And by the way, when you do live out your faith in any way, you get blessed.

There's just no way around it. So here we have an opportunity, many of you already know, that Christians, Solidarity International has people on the ground in Sudan, in southern Sudan and in Sudan. Mostly women and children are currently enslaved there. Let's think about that. It's not a metaphor. They're enslaved by radical Muslims. They believe in that over there.

Yeah, radical Muslims don't have a problem with slavery. And they enslave Christians. And so mostly women and children, Christians, because they're Christians are enslaved, now, the good news is, because of CSI, we could do something about this. Because of CSI, we can free slaves, literally free slaves. Tell your kids about this. Tell your kids that there's real evil in the world and that to live at our faith, we need to do what we can when we can do something. We can always pray. But sometimes we can do something else. Sometimes, we can give $250 and free an actual slave. Ladies and gentlemen, that's crazy that CSI has created a situation where we don't just say, oh, there's this terrible thing. We can do something about it. There's a finite number of people still enslaved.

And it is only money that prevents us from bringing them out of slavery into a life of freedom, setting them up. The $250 sets them up in a life of freedom. I say to everybody, that's the number that CSI is saying, If you give that number, you free somebody and you put them in a life of freedom, you set them up. And there's a whole story that goes along with that. But if you can't give $250, what can you give?

Can you give $10 a month? You have to go to metaxis talk.com. Please go to metaxis talk.com today. Please click on the banner. Please give what you can. There's a phone number, 888-253-2522, 888-253-25-22, 888-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8. 253, 3522, or just go to Metaxistock.com. Please participate. We'll be right back. With my friend Bradstein on his podcast, Bradstein has issues.

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because sometimes when people talk, it gives you more passion to understand what's at stake. I will only say, I will only give the answer if people promise to buy a copy of the book. Yeah, well, I'll hold them to it because they need to. If you promise to buy copy the book, I'll share the secret information that's in the book. You promise? Focus, you promise? Okay. All right, I'll do it.

But listen to me. And they will. My people have to because otherwise I block them and I send locust. God sends the locust. I'm shocked that he gave me that option. But he does. He lets me curse folks. That's a beautiful thing.

What I'm wondering is, that's a lot of. what Corona did. It was kind of a, it was kind of a, a magnifying glass that God gave us so we could really focus in on where the problem areas are. So when my comedy began to be put into jeopardy because anybody that had a job where people had to sit next to each other was in trouble, I started looking for states that I knew were probably not playing this game. So I was going to Idaho in South Dakota's and parts of the South. And I could. There were people that there were warrior pastors. I even had them on my, Alan Jackson is one, that I had them on my podcast that didn't shut down. They did it like everybody. Two weeks. Okay, what are we good? Oh, wait, what?

Forever. Oh, wait, what? You get to control us now. And they jump back in and here, and that was the warrior pastors and the warrior churches that began to blow up and thrive because people wanted to go there because their churches shut down in cowardice. And so what I'm curious about is that people are, I think is what's happening. And I need your insight to this. And again, I'm sure it's in religionless Christianity. I think the biggest angst that many of us who are trying to pay attention have, Eric, is I don't know what to do.

I don't know what to do. people don't care. They gave away their liberties during the corona. I didn't. I got a phone video of me walking through Chicago O'Hare in 2020 with no masks saying something's wrong, guys. Anybody going to be inspired? Anybody going to say, you're right? Everybody wants to read about the emperor has no clothes. Nobody wants to be the kid. Everybody wants to read about the Civil War and the Revolutionary War fathers, but they don't want to turn. It's your turn. It's your turn to write the story for the next guys. And so what can we do? It's going to take a peasant's revolt because the establishment has abandoned us. Look, first of all, I want to encourage people,

it is happening. It is happening. There are tons of people. You and I are just two of many, many, many, many people speaking out on this stuff. There are people behind the scenes. working. And again, number one, recognize the voice of the devil. The voice of the devil says, no one's doing anything. And there's nothing you can do. That's a voice from the pit of hell, folks. And you want to listen to that voice and call God a liar? I'm here to tell you, God is doing things. His people are doing things. People that don't even know his name are doing things. Pagans are being brave and speaking courageously. Don't be fooled that, oh, there's nothing we can do. there's nobody, that's garbage. And then you're, you're advocating for the devil when you do that.

And so I want to be real clear, that's garbage. I meet people almost every day, heroes, doing amazing things. There's tons of things happening. That's number one. Number two, people say, well, what can I do? Well, the first thing I always say, two things. First of all, if you are going to a church that is not all in. If you're going to a church that's avoiding the political, get out of that church yesterday for the sake of your soul. You should worry about your soul. And if you're going to a church that's playing patty cake with the devil by saying,

oh, we don't need to be political or controversial, or we don't, you know, we're afraid of Christian nationalism. If you're going to a church that drank that Kool-Aid, you better get out of that. church you better take your money out of that church you better take your friends with you because those churches are under judgment jesus cursed the fig tree he didn't pray for the fig tree he cursed the fig tree because it's like times up you're cursed no fruit you're cursed yeah the fig tree withered and died those churches are withering and dying and you will wither and die in that church the time to get out

is yesterday and people so i'm trying to influence my pastor if if you can't influence your pastor in 24 hours, get out. He's supposed to be the influencer. What do you mean I got to influence my pastor? He's been clearly not called to this job. You know, you said... Let the pastor have his safe little safe space. But if you're a part of that, you're guilty.

And I say this boldly because, look, I know everywhere I go, just to give you an example, I want to say this, that I go around the country and I'm not inviting. to many of the churches that used to invite me because, oh, I'm, I'm too political or whatever they think. I don't know what, what people think, but I think, you know what? All the churches that are inviting me, I'm meeting all the heroes. I'm meeting the people that stood strong, that stayed open during COVID, or if they got it wrong, that they've repented, they saw, you know what, we got it wrong. We went along. We were trying to be winsome and friendly, and we should not have at that time. So those churches are inviting me, but every one of those

churches, I tell you, this is like a joke. Every one of the churches that has inviting me has the same story. I've heard this. I can't tell you how many times. It's funny. They all say, man, our numbers have exploded. We got to add services. We got to build another parking lot.

Giving has tripled since COVID. With so many people are coming. Why? Because the hunger for truth, the hunger for courage, there's never been such hunger. Yes. People during COVID, this is the free market, the beauty of the free market. All these churches shut down, people said, all right, okay, we'll go along with that.

And then eventually a few weeks past, a few months past, they go. So there's a church open over there. I think I'd like to go to church today. They go to that church and they think, hey, this is great. They go back the next week. Next thing you know, they're going to that church. They're hearing this fiery, courageous message. And they're thinking, I was playing paddy cake with the devil at that other church.

I was just kind of going along by it. This is beautiful. Those churches are growing and growing and growing. And the churches that played it safe, now think of the irony. Why do they play it safe? They said, oh, it's about evangelism. We don't want to be controversial. We don't want to lose people. Well, if you do the right thing, you're going to lose people, but you're also going to gain people. And if you don't gain people, by the way, you gain God's favor, which is more important than people. But in every case, the churches that lost people gained more people and more people and more people and are thriving. And so across America, there are churches that get this. They're not afraid of being called Christian nationalists,

being called funny names, mean names. They say, no, we are doing what God has called us to do. We're living our faith out in every sphere in the political sphere. We're doing everything we can. We're not afraid of this stuff. And pagans, this is the irony, are being attracted to those churches. They're saying, well, that church, I'll go to that church. I'm not going to go to that religious church down the street where, you know, there's a whole effeminate vibe going on. Everybody's all nice and pastel colored. And no, I want to go to a church that's living in reality that's fighting against evil. And I'll check that out.

And so you mentioned whether it's Joe Rogan or Russell Brand or all of these pagans are suddenly talking about God. They see the evil. It's something of what amazing is going on in America. Yes, it is. It's an amazing. It's beautiful. It's what God says.

I have to find the pagans to worship me because you. you guys don't. I love it when they abuse the words. I'm a comic. Words are sacred to me. They're my livelihood, but they're so beautiful when they're used, you know, sophisticatedly and artistically to make a point, you know. And comics historically have been the ones that could mock the king,

not get their head cut off because we were exposing the ludicrousness of it or taking the monarchy and the peasantry and giving them equality just for a second that we're all kind of humans. But I do notice, and it's very easy for these people who do not want to do the hard work. The discipleship means you've got to get your hands dirty. Those people that don't want to do that like to use words to give them a pass

from actually accomplishing anything. Like, amen. There's one. We should take care of the poor. Amen. We should take care of the downtrope. Amen. Hey, we should have the homeless.

Amen. We should take care of. Amen. We should be open to everybody. We don't judge me. Amen. you didn't do anything you just amen it god says where's the fruit of this you bought a package of seeds you didn't plant any you didn't water anything you didn't put any dirt out there you didn't

make sure it was working you didn't shoe the crows away just amen so you didn't have to do jack political is one of those words i don't want to get political and people have done that to me er you know we love your comedy oh thank you can't bring you in your political i said what do you mean about political. You think I'm going to come up and do a rally for a political candidate? Don't worry. I don't. You think I'm going to do something for lifting up the Republican Party? No, I left them because they're judas. They are the worst of the challenging elements of what's happened to our government because they promised to defend us against the abuse of checks and balances that were they were supposed to inculcate when the Democrats walked away from it. And they didn't.

The Democrats have made it very clear. We're going to butcher babies. We're going to take any kind of lifestyle that mocks and ridicules the created order of God, and we're going to celebrate it. We are not going to allow you to disagree. We are to control everything. That's demonic. But they admit it.

And I can fight a demon. I already beat them. But when you tell me you're my buddy and you stab me in the back and beat Judas, I hope there's a deeper place of hell for you. How do you feel? Well, I feel great. And one of the reasons I believe I feel better is because I take balance of nature's fruits and veggies in a capsule. They've got an amazing story of how this product was developed by

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The rest of these guys who think they're worthy, they will stand in front of me one day going, hey, sure did a lot of stuff in your name. And he said, yeah, why did you do that? You're not my relative. Isn't that, but isn't that the heart of it? In other words, we are, when you look at the ministry of Jesus, he didn't thunder against the Hellenistic philosophers. He didn't thunder against the pagans.

He thundered against the most religious of the day, the religious elites who were in bed with power. They were not worshiping God. They had all the trappings of their religiosity, which condemns them far more than a pagan who's cozing up to power. They were the ones that were supposed to be representing God. And what did they do? What is the most religious thing you could do apart from God? How about murder God when he shows up? Yeah. Murder God when he appears. Now, that is the satanic project, right? Its religion and humanity apart from God is satanic. And so in the book, Religionless Christianity, I talk about what is religion apart from God? And it is a satanic project. I can do this and this and this and this and don't do this and this and I can earn my way to

heaven. And God, I don't need you. You drop dead. I don't need you. You're nothing to me. I'm going to do it on my own. That is satanic. And that's Lucifer's temptation in the garden, you can be as gods. You don't need to listen to God. You can be as gods. Join me. Let's go into heaven. Let's murder God and take his place. That's the satanic project. And that's, I talk about this in terms of the Tower of Babel. All of humanity unites. They want to build a tower into the heavens. And God thwarts that because he knows that you're going to curse yourself. You're going to ally yourself with Satan. But we're seeing it now. And in the book, a couple of places I ask, are we in the last days. And effectively, I say, yes, we are, because we're seeing this globalist spirit. It's an

Antichrist spirit. It's a globalist spirit. It's allied with atheist Marxism. And it wants to usurp the place of God. It is demonic. And it will lead to Antichrist. We're not there yet. But in the book, I talk about how we're clearly on our way. So the question is, what will we do now? What is the Lord calling us to do now. Some people would say, well, it's over. We're under judgment. Therefore, I can do absolutely nothing. So I'm going to sit on my hands or I'm going to go to the root cellar and I'm going to pray and eat the slim gyms and get out the water purification tables. Jesus will be here in five minutes and he's going to pull us out of here. So we don't need to actually do anything. I think it was havocic. I think it was Habakkuk that recommended the water purification.

Well, the point is that those are the people who say there's nothing we can do. Let's just, you know, go to the caves. and wait for the end, and the Lord will rapture us out anyway, so why do anything? You are called to the battle, folks. You are called to the battle until the Lord calls us out of here, until he proclaims judgment or not. Eric, Eric, the fight for what is right and good and true. Let me ask you this, though, because you're a really smart guy, and you really have

a real understanding of this on so many levels, because of the books you've written, because what you've been called to do. I'm the same way. I destroyed my career in the mainstream when I had to talk about. about God things. And the only way I know how to describe it to people is I could have just been funny, but there were things I had to say, and they came out, and they were referencing the culture, Judeo-Christian social commentary about the culture, which is no different than Dave Chappelle or Richard Pryor or George Carlin. They just came from a different worldview, but that's what they

felt they needed to say. I'm going to use my comedy to do something deeper, to expose some nefarious things to make you think about things you don't want to deal with. So when I realized I couldn't shut up and play it safe, that's when I realized, oh, I'm anointed. Ah, this is the calling. That's what it means to have a prophetic voice. You have to say something. And all I did was say yes. And so God has given me whatever platform this is. And you have that. You did it with Bonhofer. I remember talking to you while writing it. Dude, you were like suicidal. You weren't. But you were like, it was a hell on earth for you. I remember.

It was awful. Yeah. It was. And it was because it was a dark, dark night of the soul, which always happens, always to those he's about to anoint to go forth and do hard work and do incredible things. And that was you. So there are pastors watching this right now who failed as cowards shut their church down. But you know what? They're saying, God, forgive me.

What have I done? and they go to their people and say, I made a mistake. I'm just a man. I'm supposed to be your shepherd. I let the wolves get to you, but I'm back. Will you forgive me? Yes, we will. We love you, brother.

Good. Can you walk with me? Lift me up. Give me some strength. Pray for me. Fast for me. I'm just a guy, but I was called to lead you. Yes, I am.

Now, Eric, they're saying to you, okay, you said the church is silent. We haven't been talking. Give me my marching orders. What do I know? need to say now that will get me into the spirit of the age and prepare my people to become disciples and the coming season that were kind of in the middle of America. Well, to those, to those pastors, again, the first thing I would say is if you look, I mean,

much of what I have done, much of the, many of the books that I have written, I have written to fortify and encourage people of faith, right? And I write all my books except for the last two for everybody, but it's usually believers. And if you read the Bonhofer story, you know, make an assignment. I'm going to read the Bonhofer book. It will inspire you. When you read what this man of God did, you'll want to be like that. You can't help being a little bit more like that when you read that. I wrote these books to encourage people. Here's something I'll say. You can show the film, Letter to the American Church, for free. We're making this free to churches. So if you go to the website, letter to the American Church.com at letter to the American church.com, you can sign up to show the film

for free in your church. Talk about taking a stand. The film is a lot stronger than my book, Letter to the American Church. And it makes people think like, oh, my goodness, we've got to do something. You know, you could do a Bible study around Letter to the American Church. We have a study guide. Get people involved and just say, Lord, here we are. What do you want us to do? You might have heard Mike Lindell and my pillow no longer have the support of their box stores or shopping channels the way they used to. Yes, it's because of cancel culture. But as a result, they get to pass the savings on to you directly by having a $25 extravaganza. When Mike started My Pillow, it was just a one product company. With the help of his dedicated employees, they now

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we're all called to something. We're all called to be in the game. And this idea that my faith is a hobby that I do in the basement and I come out, it's got no relevance to the rest of the world, that is the devil's church. That is the devil's church.

you are called to take your faith out into the public square, whatever that means. It might mean anything. I mean, for some people a couple of years ago, it simply meant I'm not going to get the vaccine. Oh, you can't lose your job. Well, I can't do this. This is made, by the way, because of abortion. Morally, I have a problem with it. And by the way, medically, I've got all these questions.

I'm not doing that. It's experimental. No, no, no, no, no. and the pressure to do it is so strong that I'm suspicious. I'm not going to do it while you lose your job. I know people, they lost their jobs. And I say, you know what? Good, because now God can steer you.

Now you say, okay, Lord, I lost my job. Provide for me. Show me where you want me to go. I've been faithful to you. You can't out give God, but sometimes you've got to step out in faith and really say, is God, God? Well, I'm going to test God. I'm going to not do this or I'm going to do this.

And what are the consequences? Lord, show me yourself. The Lord shows up when her backs are against the wall. If your backs are not against the wall, if everything's fine, Lord doesn't need to show up. You've got it covered, you think. If you are against the Red Sea, the Lord might part the Red Sea, but he'll never part the Red Sea unless you're backed up against it and Pharaoh's army is coming after you. We have to trust God just to do what he calls us to do in every circumstance. And there are innumerable things. Listen, if only every born-again believer in California would vote, that's it. That's it. That's the minimum pathetic requirement. If every born-again believer in California would vote, California would turn red.

How about that for starters? We have no idea. The power God has given his people is unbelievable. To not use it is to play into the devil's hands. It's to serve the devil. The German church did that in the 30s. They did that. They had religious excuses.

And then later on, they realized, oh, okay, now for the rest of my life, I'm going to hang my head in shame because I can't go back. This is a moment. And if you don't stand in this moment, you know, you might not get a second chance. I mean, we had COVID, all that stuff happened. Maybe you blew it then. Okay, what about now? Are you going to stand now? Do you understand that the election in November?

And now, by the way, electing Donald Trump. Trump is not sufficient to save America. But if we don't elect Donald Trump, if we allow the Marxists on the left to keep going, America is done. In the book, I say that we're in the third existential crisis of our existence. The first is the revolution. The second is the civil war. We are now in the third existential crisis. It's for all the marbles now. And the Lord can give us the victory. But if his people will not step up, will not fight, will not get involved. It's over. And I want to be clear. I'm not exaggerating. I cannot say how I wish I were just being dramatic. Yeah. But I know that I'm not. I know. And it's like we've been in a nightmare for

three years. And we keep thinking we're going to wake up one day and go, oh, shoo, glad that's over. No, you're in. You are full blown in the pool, deep end, and it's polluted. And you better figure it out, because there's no going back. We are full-blown. I don't know if I've ever seen an unleashing of demonic. No, of course not. We've never seen. That's the point.

We've never seen it until recently. Never. So I guess as they speak of these things, as these pastors stand up for these principles, as I guess the answer maybe what you're saying in a nutshell is when it comes to issues of culture, When it comes to things like voting for someone that pretends, I don't know who's true anymore, Eric. I don't know who to trust.

Trump had some great things that felt good, but he still hasn't said, my bad on the vaccine. I don't know why this guy won't say. Well, look, at the end of the day, anyone you elect, you're going to have issues with them, right? But to sit on your hand and say, I'm not going to vote for anybody. That is insanity. The evil guy is going to get in for sure if you do that. you've got to vote for flawed candidates. If tomorrow Speaker Johnson is up versus some Democrat, with all the problems I have at Speaker Johnson, of course I got to vote for Speaker Johnson.

Because with him, I at least have a chance of winning on a few things. We are going to have imperfect candidates. But we've got to do the best we can to get the best candidates. And we've got to do the best we can with what we have. So, you know, this idea that I'm going to be pure. I'm not going to vote. I'm not going to vote for somebody, unless. I mean, honestly, having a majority in Congress matters, having a majority in the Senate matters, many of them are going to be rhinos. If that's all the choice you have, you better go with the rhino. Now, that said, I will do everything I could conceivably do to get rid of the rhinos

because they're bums. But, you know, we have to make these calculations. And this is where people say, like, unless somebody says exactly what I wanted to say on the life issue, I'm not going to vote for. form. Yeah. And then get bloodthirsty up to the nine, ninth month killing babies. That's who you're going to have in Congress.

So we have to be very careful. We have to be wise as serpents, not wise as dubs. A lot of Christians are wise as dubs. Yeah. That's not what the scripture says. Right. Exactly. Well, and so for the church to get involved, the pastor has to be the leader.

He has to be the one that instigates the whole thing. He's got the one to say, you know, we need to vote for people that at least claim to be, Judeo-Christian in their morality, even if they're not a Christian. Are they standing for particular principles that we think are Christian? We need to stand strong against anything that would fight against the Constitution, not because it's sacred. I've made it very clear. I don't worship the United States of America.

I worship God Almighty. But I'm grateful for it. And so why wouldn't I defend the territory I was given? I'm responsible for my sphere of influence. I wasn't born in Iran. I wasn't born in Myanmar. I'm here. So why wouldn't I defend it, especially when my people who came before me gave me legal access to defending my religiously. What kind of a fool? What kind of a coward? What kind of buffoon

do you have to be to not think that you're given an access to be free and let your children, more importantly, and their grandchildren have freedom. And you don't fight for that. What is wrong? I mean, I think, I don't know if we said it or not today, but this is, This is the lie of Christian nationalism. It's this lie that says, oh, don't make an idol of politics. Don't make an idol of America. Wait a minute. That's like saying don't make an idol of loving your wife.

I'm supposed to love my wife. It doesn't compete with my love of Jesus. In fact, my love of Jesus makes me love my wife more. So this idea that I've got to choose, that's the devil telling you you have to choose. God says that when you love anything that's right, it comes. from your love of me. Leave all the lots of money. There are many Christians that they're more,

they're more holy than Jesus because they, they just, they're all about the kingdom and they don't, I mean, I have to say that that's just, you've been, you've been fooled by the enemy who says, oh, you're a Christian nationalist. When you're advocating against the slave trade, Wilberforce, use politics to advocate

against the slave trade. Do you not think God was in that in politics for God's purposes? When Christians stood against slavery in America, the abolitionist movement was mostly Christians. They were the ones that understood that the word of God says we're supposed to love our neighbors. We can't treat human beings like this. Christianity, when it gets involved in politics, it's for good. Now, if you make an idol of politics, that's on you. But to say, I'm not going to get involved in politics.

Ooh, I might make it. It's like saying I might not get married or might not have a family because I might make it. I might make an idol of my family. That's the devil. And we need to be real clear. God calls us to love our country out of our love of Jesus. And for the sake of those who don't have a voice, people around the world who are looking to America. So I mean, I make this case everywhere I go. And, you know, I'm hopeful that more and more people every day are waking up. And again, I wrote most of my books really as an encouragement, to inspire people. We need to be inspired to do the right thing. And I look, I'll just say this. I know God's hand is still on this country. He wants us to fight to save this country

from these satanic, globalist, Marxist forces that are trying to destroy it. And we need to be clear. That's real. And there is real evil in the world. And God is calling us to stand against it. He's given us the privilege of living in this nation, which has been a beacon of liberty for 250 years. It's a glorious thing. The Lord calls us to this adventure. He doesn't force us. He calls us to this adventure. And he made us to be part of this adventure with him. So he won't force us, but how sad if we would miss it. And there are many people that are too religious to get involved in actually trusting the Lord and joining him in his purposes. And I just want to say, you know, that's why I wrote this book, Religious Christianity. Because if you're being

fooled that way, you have like five minutes to wake up. This is. it. This is, we're in that 11th hour. Well, and, you know, when Christians quit using terminology and churchianity in terms like, let me pray about it over something that clearly God has already ordained. It's like when I try to... Yeah, your kid's going to get hit by a truck. Well, let me pray about it. Yeah, let me pray about that. Or when I do... I think you need to go out there now and grab your kid. I have kids. I have, you know, children with compassion international. I always try to give people a chance to sponsor. And I'll say, you know, James said, pure religion is take care of the widows and the orphans and keep yourself spotless from the world. God said,

part of how you can observe what pure Christianity is is do this actual thing. How many of you guys have sponsored a kid? Nobody. But the Bible literally said, so I serve the Bible. I serve it. Well, let me pray about it. So you got to say, God, there's a guy dying, doesn't have food, doesn't have water, doesn't have medical attention. But I could help him by giving him 43 bucks a month. But I wanted to pray to you. Do you think I should? And you think he's going to say, oh, no, no, no, No, no, no. I want you to go to Denny's. It's so stupid. It's so, I think it's wrapped up in this, and we're going to, I'll let you go because you've been an hour, buddy. I think it's this simple. American Christians wanted a Christianity that didn't cost them anything. Yeah.

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