The Eric Metaxas Show - Braeden Sorbo (Encore)

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

Braeden Sorbo shares a new book: Embrace Masculinity: Lifting Men up in a World That Pushes Them Down. https://www.tiktok.com/@braedensorbo

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Eric, the Texas! Welcome back. My guest is Emerson Eggerich, author of the new book, Speak Your Mind. So, Emerson, we've just got nine or so minutes left. What else? There's so much in the book. Well, I think again, let's just kind of those four questions. I mean, saying to the audience, I mean, how do they feel about asking those four questions?

Is that which I'm about to say, all right, true, kind, necessary, and clear? And does that make sense to them? And what's the upside of doing that? And what's the downside? And so I think part of what I'm concerned about is where's their pushback on this, Eric, in your opinion? And why would people not want to ask those four questions and seek to answer them in integrity? Well, it is a tricky thing. When you mentioned social media a moment ago, I thought to myself, we have become a coarser, nastier culture.

There's no doubt about it. And the thing is that this has been going on for a long time. It's not just social media, but the things people would say on TV. I remember when I first saw reality television, how many people? years ago is that. I don't know. But I thought, man, this is just nasty. Like, we're going to put this on TV. We're going to, we're going to show people our ugliest side or whatever. And it does contribute to a coarsening because it normalizes course behavior, saying horrible things. It just normalizes it. And so we are in a different culture than we were in, let's say, 40 or 50 years ago,

for sure. And I think it's tricky because I think that there's some things, you know, speaking the truth boldly is very important. But as you're saying, you know, how one says it, how it's coming across. I think also who is delivering it, you know, I think I don't know if you talk about it in the book, but context is everything, you know, who is the person speaking? what is the context of in which they're speaking? All of that stuff matters.

No, it's huge. And I think, you know, certainly in the last 20 years, the idea of promoting the idea that a wife ought to respect her husband, I think is a great illustration of moving into something that was countercultural, it's counterintuitive.

And so how do you wait into a hostile environment? And women are not mean-spirited, but they're afraid. And so they'll push back. And they'll push back. I even spoke early on at my church to a group of mothers, and I didn't get through the material and I said, hey, I'll come back again. And the group voted for me not to come back. And I was their pastor. They wanted a woman to come and answer this question, how to love your husband. They defaulted to love. They defaulted. So early on, I began to think, you know what, I'm not being received here. There's a pushback here because I went to military school so men's servant die for honor. And we're highly motivated by things of honor. I just am, you know, Pat Riley had me speak to the Miami Heat and he and I spent five hours together talking about honor.

And I said, would you like to receive honors? Would you like to be honored? Or do you want to be an honorable man? And he and coach Bob said, we want to be honorable men. This isn't egotistical to us. This is deep in our DNA. And when you speak into that, men soften. So I was up against a culture that said, respect must be earned, respect must be deserved.

End of story. And if I don't feel it, I don't have to give it. And I'm certainly not going to be a doormat. And I'm not going to feed his ego. And I'm certainly not going to set the feminist team back 50 years. And the list went on with the mantra. And so over these last 20 years, I think I've learned some things, as have you, that this is crucial. If we're going to serve people, if we're going to help people, we've got to come to a point where we say,

I'm here to help. I'm here to communicate truth. And I'm going to work on doing this in a way that hopefully will, in this case, heal marriages and families. Because I came out of a situation where I said, if my mom and dad had known what I now know, I wouldn't have gone through the woundedness that I went through. at Liberty University, 12,000 students about being the wounded healer. And so my challenge for every person watching this or listening is God has called you to bring healing, to help other people. And I think in the same case with Eric myself, you've got to push through some of those fears. And that's why I'm trying to give you these tools to do what I believe God's calling you to do.

I'm trying to think the whole idea of when you said at the beginning of this conversation, but there's some people or somebody said to you that, you know, if you're not, if you're not sure how to say something, maybe it's because you don't know what you have to say in the first place. I know what I mean. I just don't know how to say it. Well, if you don't know how to say, you don't know what you mean. Right. Okay.

That, I have to say, is so true, it's so real that there's so many people that they say they know what they mean. But when you push them, you find confusion. You realize they don't quite know what it is they have to say. And I think that sometimes, you know, you can fool some people in the way you talk. But if you're talking to kids, you can't do that. either they're going to get it or not. I mean, I've seen so many children's books written that it's harder to write a children's book, I think, than a book for adults, because you've got to be clear.

You can't play games. You can't use rhetorical flourishes. You've just got to be clear in what you're saying. That is a big issue. And so really what it talks to Emerson is whether we are ourselves thinking clearly or do we know how to think clearly. That's a tough one. Yeah.

And that's why, you know, journaling for me, putting my thoughts down on paper, because I felt inadequate and you know just saying okay what is it I'm trying to say here what am I trying to say and why am I trying to say this and is this going to come across clearly and that's why I said earlier on when I was doing the first three people said what's your point and so I've tried to incorporate that discipline now if we're going to be a lazy communicator but we want to be a great communicator it's not going to happen how much preparation do you put in on your presentations Eric. I mean, a ton. People don't often understand what

goes on in terms of a personal discipline. It doesn't happen impulsively. It doesn't happen just spontaneously. Now, it'll come out as years of preparation, but that's later on. Yeah. I want to say that you wrote, in the back of the book, it says,

when was the last time you spoke to your spouse or wrote an email to a colleague but felt like they didn't understand your point or like the way they reacted was in your opinion beside the point. I should say that you wrote a previous version of this book, which is a great title,

before you hit send. And this is kind of an updated expansion of that idea. But that is interesting because sometimes people will write something and boom, they'll send it off. And it's not going to have the effect that they wanted it to have. So this book, in a sense, is trying to help people with that.

I mean, just to focus on the symbol, I'm going to send an email. I'm going to communicate by email. What's the best way to communicate what I have to say? Well, the rewrites here, because before you hit send, as creative as it is, it's making a statement. Thank you, you, idiot, before you do something. I think it had a negative slant. And I thought, and that's not where I want to land on this. So we rewrote the whole thing more positively, speak your mind.

Don't be thinking about not speaking your mind. And, you know, but there are people out there. This woman said, you know, that little thing in the back of your head that tells you not to say something before you said? And I said, yeah. She said, I don't have that little thing. That's funny. And so, you know, that before you hit sin is really for that person. But I think to your point about how you've been campaigning on speaking the truth and love to a world that needs to hear it, I really like this book now the way it's presented, helping people speak their mind. And I want that for them. And I want to do it myself. And we want to be challenged by your challenge,

Eric, because you've been saying this a great deal for the last, what, I'd say eight or nine years for sure since. Yeah, but it's so interesting because to me, again, it's about the cultural moment. I really believed at some point I thought, what is going on? Everybody has kind of got this spirit of timidity or they don't speak or and that can be a nightmare. And it has been a nightmare. It was a nightmare. I talk about it in Nazi Germany.

People thought, oh, I better shut up. I don't want to be the one to blah, blah, blah. What is God asking you to do? What is the cultural moment requiring? And I think we've had such aggressiveness for. from the radical secular left, pushing bad ideas and lies. If that's the case, you've got to stand up and push back and you have to speak against it. And that's where we've been in the culture.

And I think a lot of people finally are waking up to that. So I'm hopeful. We're at a time. Folks, I've been talking to my friend, Dr. Emerson, Egarich. The brand new book is Speak Your Mind. Emerson, thanks so much. Thank you, Eric. A blessing.

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Here's one of them. Braden Sorbo, welcome to this program. Well, thanks for having me. Excited to be here. I'm sorry that you're hideous, but you know what? What are you going to do? So in all seriousness, I love your parents, and they have raised a number of wonderful kids, of whom you're only one. Let's be clear.

You're only one of the kids. How many of the kids are there? I don't remember that. There's three of us, of which I'm the oldest. You're the oldest. All right. So you have written a book, and I was excited about this because we need the young generation to step up. Your book, which is brand new, folks, is called Embrace Masculinity.

And of course, this is intended for men. We don't want women to embrace masculinity. So this is a book about masculinity. So what led you at your young age to say, hey, I got to write a book about this? Well, I want to start off by clarifying this. I mean, it can be for women in the sense that if their husbands read this book, every time they hug them, they'll be embracing masculinity, right? But I thought of that.

Thank you. That's good. That's good, yes. Well, no, of course, women need to embrace masculinity. Exactly. Not in themselves, but men should embrace femininity in women and women should embrace masculinity in men. So yes, we're all in this together, you bet.

100%. And so what inspired me to write this was sort of realizing there was a lack in the culture today of people my age being outspoken about the benefit of traditional values in society. You have all of these, you know, a little bit of the older generations who have kind of taken this mantle on, well, go work hard, find a wife, have family, you know, all of these wonderful things, but they can't necessarily relate to my generation and the struggles that we go through because they are not growing up with the same kind of dilemmas that my generation faces. And so I was looking for something from someone my age that was relatable.

And I was struggling to find it. So I decided to sit down and write the book myself, something that I could come at from a Gen Z perspective, as you mentioned, I'm 23 years old, something that people my age could look at and realize, okay, this person isn't talking down to me. They realize the struggles that I'm going through because they've been through them themselves. This is someone that I could look up to and respect, not in the same sense as someone else who I can also respect without, you know, understanding on the same level of what we've been through. But someone who knows more about me than the average generational boomer might. Well, as I know I've said to you before, I'm excited that you wrote this book because we do need young voices.

And I'm not one of these people that like really cares that much about, you know, the young, apart from the fact that we need voices in every generation. It's not like the young voices, the young people have things to teach us. No, no, no, no. We just need voices in every single generation speaking up about the truth because, of course, young people are going to relate more to other young people. So I'm glad you did this. Now, writing a book, I can speak from experience, is difficult. What led you to the idea that you could do it or you could, you know, because it's, I mean, I, I know the book because I've looked at it.

I've read not all of it, but you, you know, it's a big deal. I guess your mom has written books. So you're, it's in the family a little bit. Yeah, maybe it's a genetic trait passed down both my parents are authors. But I graduated high school. I was homeschooled. I did competitive speech and debate through all four years of high school. And when I graduated, I decided not to go to college and instead opted to write a book.

And so I wrote my first book, The BS Guide to Politics at 18 years old. And so this, I started at about 21. and I just turned 23 recently. So this has been a work in progress for the past year and a half, maybe-ish, two years. And so I don't know. I felt that I needed to write something. I needed to be doing something more with my life to be reaching as many people as possible. I have two million followers online through social media.

And so I do political, comedic, religious content, just encompassing everything that involves America and the world today. And so I decided the next natural inclination in progression would be the book. Well, it's funny because, yeah, so you're an old hat at this. This is book number two. So I've been saying this a lot lately that because I'm writing a book on the American Revolution, I'm face to face with the fact that pretty much every generation before my generation grew up a lot quicker. Like, you know, the whole tortured adolescence that you're going to be an adolescent forever and ever. The whole thing, it just didn't exist.

And so, you know, during the revolution, you'd be 11 years old and you'd be apprenticed to somebody to learn a trade. And so suddenly you're acting like an adult at 11, 12, 13. You know, Benjamin Franklin was acting like an adult printing, doing all this. It seems like everybody, and again, this is just in the revolutionary era. But this continues on that people had to grow up quickly and that that's a big part of God's plan. So this extended adolescence, which really is just this preposterous excuse to do nothing. thing or to wait for some moment when you're given the right credentials to get some kind of a job. That's a very modern, bad idea. And I think part of that problem, and you just brought it up,

is this idea that everybody's got to go to college. Absolutely not. College, my friend Charlie Kirk says, is a scam. Mostly that's what it is. I think that it's a big waste of time and money. And it's sort of, if you're not an adolescent when you go to college, it will turn you into an adolescent. It's just designed not to mature you. And so when I meet young men like you, I'm just excited that there's this whole generation that has been homeschooled. Not everybody's been homeschooled by the great Sam Sorbo, but you have, your brothers have. But the homeschoolers who have opted out of this nonsense path really are the hope for the future. I'm really excited. And I think it's the big unreported story that there are hundreds of thousands. It's like an army of homeschooled kids

that are more mature and wise and educated than anybody else. And you're going to take over the world by God's grace. So no pressure. Yeah, no pressure. We hope so. And what you touched on with this perpetual adolescence is something that I mentioned in the book. I call it the Peter Pan lost boys, right? These kids who refuse to grow up, they stay on Neverland forever. And the reason behind it is, the social conditioning that we go through. Life has gotten more luxurious and morality has become subjective. And so people have, by and large, just foregone what our ancestors refused to take for granted, what our ancestors held dear to.

And so what we have in society today is nothing like we've ever seen before. The previous generations had the same guarantee. Work hard, get a job, find a wife, have kids. That's your legacy. A man's legacy, as I'm sure you're aware, is not how much money you have in your bank account. the biggest house that you could possibly live in or whatever car you drive. A man's legacy is affecting the people around him, particularly his wife and kids, having a family that loves and respects him.

That is the pinnacle of success for any man. There's a song by Drake White, who's a country singer called Life, Love, and War, and the lyric in it is because a good wife and a baby is as good as it can get. And so what people have realized in today's day and age with the sexual revolution and morality becoming subjective is that they can't find that anymore. Two out of every 10 women in Generation Z are on only fans, prostituting themselves online for subscriptions for $5 a month posting themselves in lewd content. Two out of 10, 20% of my generation. I got to hear that again because that doesn't seem possible.

Two out of 10% of what? Two out of 10 women in Generation Z, age 18 to 27 or whatever the generation is, are on only fans today posting themselves explicitly, naked, lingerie, whatever, for $5, $10, $15 a month, sometimes free. Because society said, women, you have the right to vote. Go out and be a boss, babe. You have whatever you could do the same things a man can do. Nothing's holding you back. What do you want to do?

And 20% of them said, I just want to be a hooker online. Tell me how that's a message of empowering. All that does is destroy. And so people are waking up and seeing, well, those people, unfortunately, are not conducting themselves as if they are marriage material. And so it immediately eliminates a significant portion of the population. On top of the fact that social media and society as a large promotes this idea of gender confusion, sexual identity, sexual immorality. I mean, the sexual revolution that took place in the 70s, we are now reaping the consequences of because marriage rates are down.

Divorce rates are up. Unhappiness is statistically higher than it's ever been in America before. 47% of women today, aged 18 and upward, are on at least one type of antidepressant. 25% of men are on the same. So we have a society that is over-medicated, and we are not doing anything about it aside from giving them more drugs. I mean, this is staggering. What you just said about the only fans thing, wow, talk about a statistic.

Oh, my gosh. I often say that in Georgia in England, when William Wilberforce was coming up in politics, It was tremendously broken culture. Many women were prostitutes. I've got to remember the statistic. Now, I can't believe I've been giving the speech about this for 15 years, and it's now gone out of my head. But it's a reminder, folks, of where you are as a culture when you look at statistics like that.

And so we obviously need the truth to get out there. And so Brayden, we'll be right back. But in the meantime, folks, the book is Embrace Masculinity. I hope you'll get a copy, especially if you're a young person or know a young person, especially a young man, get a copy of Embrace Masculinity. It is a brand new book. We'll be right back. Folks, welcome back.

I continue my conversation with Braden Sorbo, who is the 23-year-old son of my friends, Kevin and Sam Sorbo. And it just does my heart good, Graydon, to see the young man that your parents have raised. And you give me hope for the future that there are a lot of young men and women who have been raised right and who are speaking the truth boldly and bravely. And we understand we basically need to repeal the sexual revolution. The sexual revolution has destroyed lives. It's destroying lives right now. You were just quoting their statistics. People are so broken.

But I think it leads me to hope. In other words, that things are so bad. that people are open to God. They're open to God's ideas about family and marriage and sex and truth. So I'm very encouraged. And again, I'm encouraged that you've written this brand new book. It's called Embrace Masculinity. What is in the book? What should we talk about from the book? Well, the book encompasses everything that a guide should. It talks about the dangers of dating apps and pornography. I mean, statistics are showing right now that men aged 18 to 45 who were polled, overwhelmingly 45% of them had never approached a woman in real life.

45% of men, 18 to 25, never talked to a woman in real life. But why would they? When we live in a culture based on rejection and sexual gratification, where on my phone on Instagram, you know, you could see women posting themselves in compromising positions in the gym, complaining about how men are objectifying them, complaining about how men are looking at them. You have other women talking about why men should never approach a girl in a bar or never approach a girl on the street.

So these guys are seeing this content and going, well, the girl online on, you porn isn't going to reject me, so I'm just going to avoid social interactions altogether. So it talks about the dangers of that. It talks about the pharmaceutical industry, the dating world at large. The idea that there is a divine order in the universe and necessity of the patriarchy, it's not a matter of if a man will rule, but a matter of which men will rule and whether or not they will be good or bad. And so what we've seen in America is we've had bad patriarchs taking the charge. And what those bad patriarchs have done is they've manipulated women and they have controlled men. Now, I'll break it down really quick for the listeners and viewers is a bad patriarchs. will do one of three things to control men.

He will, one, harness the power because men have strength. When men get together, communities and countries are built. We know this. And so if a patriarch is smart enough, he will be able to control the men to build things for him. Think of the pyramids in Egypt with slavery, right? If that doesn't work, if he can't control the men,

what he will then do is he will attempt to pacify them, like Rome, bread and circuses, or even America today with all of the distractions that we have, pacification works wonders. And lastly, if that doesn't work, what the bad patriarch will do is he will start killing the men because they pose a threat. and we have that in America today

and people are going, well, hold on, they're not just walking around gunning people down in the streets. Abortion kills almost a million babies every single year. The porn industry kills your soul. So men are both spiritually dead and some men aren't even given the chance

to be born. We are at the stage where people are being killed before they get the chance to rebel against bad leaders in society today. This is the tipping point of any great generation. Any history, or if you look back all throughout history,

you're a big history buff, you know this. We are at the tipping point that no other country has come back from. The difference is no other country has been America and there is hope. But this will be the first time any country has ever come back from a circumstance this kind of dangerous, right? The culture that we live in today is, I'm sure many of your viewers would know as you as well. The Weimar Republican Germany before the World War started was known as Berlin was known as the Sin Capital of Europe, where mother-daughter, prostitute tag teams

walked the street, right? There was a lack of humanity in the culture, and it led to World War II. Now, I personally don't want another World War, and so we need to turn around before it gets to that point,

but we have the opportunity with my generation speaking up. And I mentioned this, once again, one of the other things I talk about in the book, is the political divide between men and women.

Men, historically, this past election specifically, have always voted red. and in 2024, they voted farther red than they've ever done before. In droves, men who never voted went out and cast a ballot. Women have always leaned a little bit more blue because of their nurturing, caring, compassion that they just have naturally. However, this past election, they voted farther blue down the ballot than ever before.

So we have the largest political divide that we've ever seen between the genders. And what that's going to do is it's going to sow division. And that is going to sow disharmony. And so it is up to the men to dig their heels in and continue to fight for what is right. And I say that they know what is right because during polling for the 2024 election, men were asked, everyone was asked, their biggest conditions for voting, what the biggest problems in the country were that they were caring about, you know, up and down the ballot.

Men voted overwhelmingly for the candidate that they thought would help fix border security, so safety for the entire country, the economy, whether that be trade overseas or the prices of goods and services, rent, gas, groceries, those things. So once again, the security of the nation. And then lastly, women, their top issue was abortion. So you have men voting selflessly for the border, the security of their nation, and the prosperity of their nation. And you have young women voting for the ability, 67 percent. It's not like, oh, barely 50 percent.

67 percent of women said that the biggest issue for them this past election was abortion. That was what would make them vote for the candidate that they chose. And so we have a divide between selfless and selfish. And so it is up to the men to take the stand. That's why I wrote the book, to be a beacon of hope, to be a guiding light for people going, it's over. We're not coming back from this because we can come back from this. It is just going to be an uphill battle, but it's going to be worth it.

I have to say that there's so much more to talk about. I think we can stretch you to another segment. But folks, you understand if you're listening how important this is. this is about American culture. This is about everything. I want to remind you, folks, that with God, all things are possible. And as Braden, you just said, no countries come back from this, except there's never been a country like the United States of America. Actually, when we come back, I will give one other example of a country that has come back from this.

It's interesting. We'll be right back, folks. The brand new book is Embrace masculinity. I'm talking to Braden Sorbo. Welcome back talking to Braden Sorbo, who just happens to be the son of Kevin Sorbo and Sam Sorbo. I believe that's a coincidence. I don't know how to explain it. But the book that you've written, Braden, you're 23 years old, you've written a book called Embrace

masculinity. Masculinity. It's your second book, which is tremendous. And you are one of the examples of what some people are doing right, the way that you're parents raised you so that, you know, at 23, you're a fully functioning adult, you're writing books. It's a wonderful thing. You just said something in the last segment, and it relates to something that I've said a lot, that when people talk about, for example, somebody, I think it was my friend Cal Thomas wrote a book about, you know, the cycle of

empires and all empires, they go through the cycle and blah, blah, blah, and we're at this stage and, you know, whatever. And I thought, America is not an empire. like the other empires, there has never in the history of the world ever been anything like the United States of America. If you need the details on that, folks, I wrote a book called If You Can Keep It. And I recommend it, not because I wrote it, but because I didn't see anybody else writing what I wrote about in that book. America is utterly unique. I believe God ordained the existence of the United States of America, not for me or for America, but for our purposes in world history in the same way that, you know, God ordained Israel, not quite like that. But when God

picks you, chooses you, it's for his purposes in history. And America has been chosen for God's purposes in history. And there has never been a country in the history of the world like the United States of America. And so, Braden, you were saying that no country has ever come back from where we are right now. But there's never been another United States of America. And that's exactly right. But I would say, I wrote a book called Amazing Grace about William Wilberforce. And the story of what England was like in the mid to really to late 18th century. So, you know, the 17, let's say 1760 to, you know, 1800. It was so broken, so pagan. It's really inconceivable what a broken pagan horror show,

Georgian England was. The poor were rotting. Nobody was helping them. Prostitution was rampant. Alcoholism was utterly rampant. Again, you can't even imagine how broken it was. There was no regard for the poor. It really was just a callous, broken, pagan, corrupt, godless culture.

And I bring it up, just because by the grace of God using principally William Wilberforce, and again, I tell the story in my book Amazing Grace, and in my book Seven Men, there's a chapter on Wilberforce. But when God comes back into the picture, anything is possible. And by God's grace, England changed dramatically and basically pulled out of the death spiral. And I think we need to remember that it is possible. if you turn to God and they turned to God in England. Wilbur Force led this revival. I mean, it goes on and on.

There's so much to talk about. So this is to say that there is hope. And even if that example didn't exist, I would say there's hope in America. So to your point, America has enough folks who think the way you do and I do and your parents do. And there are a lot of Americans who understand this. And we seem in a way to be leading the way forward. I mean, you're writing this brand new book, Embrace Masculinity is one example, that I think things are broken enough that there are people kind of open to things.

And I think, like you just said, you were citing all of these statistics about young men voting red and understanding what's at stake. I really think that there's been a shift in the country. And so I'm really excited. And again, it's one of the reasons I'm excited that you wrote this book. I see something happening. Yeah, I do too. And I want to offer a word of caution to the people listening to this because England may have turned themselves back by the grace of God. But look at them now.

25% of London is under Sharia law. Oh, yeah. You have carjackings, sexual assaults, knife attacks, acid attacks, people driving through crowds. The rates of this are skyrocketing. And so this should serve as a warning for all of us that just because something can turn around, doesn't mean it will stay turned around if we take it for granted. And so we need to preserve this country not only once, but permanently. And so a lot of young men, I will say, are leading that charge in the sense that we have this return to traditional morals.

I mean, you have the largest Christian boom that a nation is seen in recent times. The Diocese of Los Angeles said that they welcomed a 23% increase of new converts to the faith. as opposed to 2024, right? So you have massive jumps in people coming back to the church. And this will, if people stay, beget nothing but benefits to the country. Because as we know, a moral society is a healthy one. Everyone complains about the separation of church and state when obviously it's the church's job to help influence the state because Romans 1, morality is written on the heart. We have the law written on our hearts, Paul says. And so when people ask the best way to support these young men,

I tell them, supporting them is the best way to support them, helping them in this battle, because they are predominantly alone when it comes to the world. They are predominantly alone when it comes to finding a suitable person to marry. It is a battle that we must fight almost alone. And so the support of others is, it's immeasurable. And so I tell people, you know, if this book isn't right for you, buy 10 for your friends. And I would say buy 10 of your books as well, right?

Maybe just get a gift basket at this point. Well, I know, honestly, because, you know, people, it's a funny thing. Like, I don't write books just to write books. Like, you know, I'm trying to communicate things. And obviously, it's the same with your book. You want to bless people. I wish I could just give the book, the books that I've written and many books that my guests have written to anybody and say, listen, folks, this is important.

This is the way out of where we are. And so it is, it's not a small thing, folks, to understand that where we have been, it's been so bad that I think people are waking up. I think there's good news. But we're in a war and the Lord is with us in the war. And so I'm very, very hopeful. Braden, we're at a time, but I'm just so grateful to you and your folks for raising you and just to hear your heart and mind.

If people want to find you, I know they can go to Sorbo Studios. folks, that's the website, sorbos studios.com. The book is Embrace masculinity. It is the second book by my guest, Braden Sorbo. Braden, thank you so much. Thank you. And if people want, they could use Sorbo at checkout for 20% off. Sorbo at checkout for 20% off.

Folks, did you hear that? Sorbo, if you can spell it, S-O-R-B-O. Sorbo at checkout. Sorbo Studios.com. God bless you, Braden. Thank you. Thank you. Folks, welcome back.

Very exciting that we get to participate in the modern day abolitionist movement. We get to free slaves. We've been talking about this on this program. This is a real thing. But just as real as the evil of modern day slavery is, just as real is the good that we get to do. We get to do something about this because of Christian Solidarity International with whom we partner on this program, I'm talking to Todd Chapman, who's telling us the stories, the reality of this. I think I mentioned that every $250 that we give, freeze a slave.

So if you go to the website metaxis talk.com, you'll see the banner, you click on the banner, you see a number of options. Some people can easily give $250 or multiples of that. I encourage you to do that. It's tax deductible, and it is literally freeing slaves and setting them up in a life of freedom. But if you can't give $250, maybe you can give monthly. Some of you can give monthly. If you give $10 monthly, if you give $20 monthly, that's a huge thing at the end of the year. Every $250 frees a slave, sets them up in a life of freedom. So I want to encourage you to do that. There's a phone number. I will give you. The website is metaxis talk.com. You'll see the banner. But Todd, tell us more about this because, again, so many of us cannot fathom that this is real.

This is going on while we're having this conversation. There are people praying that somebody will reach out and save them from a life of slavery. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. And just to quantify the impact that you have had, if you've ever participated in one of our campaigns here on the Eric Metaxa show, over 100,000 slaves have been freed since CSI has been doing this. And every year, more and more freed, I think, like, Last year, your listeners freed about a thousand slaves between our May campaign that we're kicking off right now and the one that we do at the end of the year.

So thank you if you've been a part of that. If you never have, could I just boldly say, you're missing out on a blessing? You really are. Because think about it, this is the gospel. This is the gospel message. We were all born into slavery and sin, right? And God redeemed us through the gift of his son, Jesus Christ. And we now, you know, because of our gratitude for what God has done for us,

we can set another person free, a person who is actually in physical bondage. They're enslaved. They're being verbally abused, psychologically abused, physically abused. They're being forced to convert to Islam, even though they're Christian, their slave master says, you will convert to Islam, and then they get physically mutilated as part of that process. It's absolutely horrendous what happens to them, but you know what? They don't give up. They don't ultimately give up their faith that God can and hopefully,

one day we'll deliver them. And we get to be a part of that. I'll give you the phone number again, because obviously a lot of people would like to talk to a person. The phone number, which I hope you'll dial today, is 888-25-25-22. 8-8-288-25-3-35-22. 8-8-8-28-253-35-22. and the website, if you go to metaxis talk.com, at the top of the page, you'll see the banner, click on the banner at metaxis talk.com. It'll take you a number of options that are there. Again, you can call, but if it's easier for you, just go to metaxis talk.com, and it'll show you a number of options, including some of you would rather just give a smaller amount monthly. That's easier. Obviously, whatever you can do.

is you're doing the Lord's work. So, Todd, thank you for sharing this important. It's an important opportunity as I see it, folks. You put your faith in action. It will strengthen your faith. Those aren't just words. That's real. So thanks for doing what you can do.

And thank you, Todd, for sharing. My pleasure. Thanks, Eric.