The Eric Metaxas Show - Brandon Straka - Part 3

Episode Date: February 18, 2022

Brandon Straka continues with more of what happened to him at the hands of a politically weaponized FBI -- it's a staggering, nightmare example of what happens if "We the People" don't stand against o...ppressive tyrants.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Folks, welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show, sponsored by Legacy Precious Metals. There's never been a better time to invest in precious metals. Visit legacy p.m.investments.com. That's legacy p.m. Investments.com. The Texas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. Welcome to the show. We continue today. Albin, this is serious stuff. I don't like to make history.
Starting point is 00:00:37 But in this case, it might be necessary for you, the viewers. and the listeners to help us to make history by doing something that nobody else seems to be doing. The story of Brandon Strock, I spoke to him yesterday, and I continued the conversation with him today. He was there on January 6th. He did nothing. To say he did nothing is an understatement. He's a hero. But he was treated like a vicious criminal. In fact, vicious criminals are not treated this poorly, generally speaking in the United States. And this is meant to be a chilling lesson for everybody who opposes a certain way of thinking.
Starting point is 00:01:20 This is as ugly as it gets. If you wanted to live in Stalinist Russia, you'd understand what it is to be worried about what's going on, whether anybody cares, whether the government is for you or against you, knowing that they're against you, And I just want to say what I said yesterday, we have an obligation to share the story of Brandon Strach.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So if you're not yet signed up for the newsletter, I am begging you, folks, go to Ericmetaxis.com, sign up for this newsletter. We will send you all these videos. We want you to share the video, particularly of Brandon Strock, far and wide. His story has to get out. and we are depending on you to get it out. If most Americans understood what he'd been through, who he is and what he went through, I think they would be shocked.
Starting point is 00:02:17 There are people on the Republican side who seem to think, oh, bad people did stuff on January 6th. Listen to the story of Brandon Strach and how he was treated and tell me what you think. Send this to your friends who are on the fence. I'm more interested in what they think, but it is so chilling. The way our friend Roger Stone was treated is beyond, it's almost impossible to believe.
Starting point is 00:02:45 But then as recently, as a year ago, January 6th, Brandon Strock was treated this way by agents of our government, people getting taxpayer money to fund them to do these grievous things. If you don't speak up, if you don't do something, you become part of the problem. We all have an obligation to do what we can. The least we can do is share these videos. As I say, sign up at Eric Mataxis.com. You'll get our newsletter and you can share these videos. Now look, folks, if it's impossible for you to do that, I understand.
Starting point is 00:03:19 But I just ask you to do what you can. One of the things you can do also is to support us and our sponsors by going to mypillow.com and my store.com. another person who has been treated just horribly, so horribly, is our friend Mike Lindell. His bank shut him down because they don't like where he's coming from politically. We don't do that in America. We've never done things like that in America. We see that in Canada, Justin Trudeau is doing that to these truckers who are expressing their God-given right to dissent. We need to do what we can.
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Starting point is 00:04:25 But at MyStore.com, there's a Bonhofer poster. These are some of the most beautifully printed gorgeous posters, and they remind us, unfortunately, we're at a time where we need to be reminded of this. It says silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak, not to act is to act. God will not hold us guiltless. Yeah, and listen, if you're a guy of a certain age, it's time to take down the fair faucet poster and put up the Bonhoffet poster. Okay? Now, who would have a fairer?
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's very funny. or the evil-conneville poster, what have you, time to take it down. But we're living in times where, you know, I just didn't think, nobody wants to live in times where you have to take things like that seriously. But we're living in those times. I go back to Barack Obama saying he's going to fundamentally transform America, and folks, we're living in Barack Obama's America right now. I've got to say, because who is running the company, the country?
Starting point is 00:05:26 Joe Biden? That's kind of the question, is that I think we get an idea. Listen, the good news is that people are waking up. The good news is that we still have a platform to air my conversation with Brandon Strach, that he can come to us and we can tell his story on this program. But the people at Fox or Newsmax, they're not banging down his door. I don't know what's going on or whether they will. I hope that they will.
Starting point is 00:05:56 but we're privileged to be the first to share his story in this way. I know Mark Levin, I should say, shared it more recently. So Mark Levin is the first. But we're wanting to share his story in depth because we want you to know what is going on in America. This should be on the front page of the New York Times. And by the way, if this had happened to an Antifa or BLM protester, you'd never hear the end of it.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Right. And I just want to say that if you don't step up and shout and make noise and share these things with people, you do become part of the problem. So as I said, we got to support the team. It's very, very important. The other day we had on Johns Merak and we had on Larry Taunton talking on this program about similar things. About how in the Soviet Union in the 30s, journalists were. dramatically discouraged from doing their job. I mean, that's putting it very sweetly. They were not allowed to do their job of telling the truth, and people died.
Starting point is 00:07:06 We're living at a time in this country where many journalists are turning a blind eye to the truth, or they've gotten sucked into a narrative in the same way that many journalists got sucked into the Stalinist narrative. many Hollywood figures, Lillian Hellman, the playwright, George Bernard Shaw, many people got sucked into the Stalinist narrative
Starting point is 00:07:27 that, you know what? Yeah, some people got to die, but it's for a good cause. History has shown them to be as wrong as you could possibly be. But there are people today getting sucked in. We're no different than the people in the 1930s, whether in Germany
Starting point is 00:07:40 or in England or in America or in Russia. We all have an obligation. So the film, Mr. Jones, directed by Enieska Holland, brilliant film, hard to watch, not for kids, but a great film that tells this story and shows how Marxists are able to manipulate people, manipulate the media. Unfortunately, it has become a story that speaks to us today. And I'm wondering, 50 years from now, people will be looking back at us and saying, why didn't they see what was going on? I would have spoken up. Yeah, right. You would
Starting point is 00:08:13 have spoken up, except did you speak up? Have you spoken up? Are you going to speak up today? So I say, please share the video of Brandon Strach. It's on all of my social media. Please sign up for a newsletter. We really do need your help, folks. This is one of these moments where I'm simply not sure what to say, except everyone has a job to do. Tell your friends about this program. The interview that I did with John Zmirak a couple days ago and the interview I did with Larry Taunton speak to this issue as well. I hope you will share those. interviews, the good part when you're talking to John's mirror, is even when you're talking about the most gruesome, serious things, he makes you laugh. Oh, yeah. But we're at a very divided time.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I want to encourage you that this is a moment where we have to be serious. Yeah. And by the way, next week, James O'Keefe is coming on this program. He'll be in the studio, so more excitement. All right, so you're going to have to share that. So you might as well share this stuff now, so you're friends don't get tired of what you're sharing with them. But it's important. I just want to say it over and over. It's important. There's a time to be serious. This is it, folks. This weekend, I'll be in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Next weekend, Old Bridge, New Jersey, and then Phoenix, Arizona. If you go to Eric Mataxis.com, all that information is there, my schedule coming up. We have a lot of exciting things coming up. But right now, folks, do what you can to share the story
Starting point is 00:09:42 of our friend Brandon Strach. It is your story. It is my story. And we depend on each other. So we depend on you to do what you can to support the team, to support freedom, to support the country. God bless you. Hey, folks, I've got to tell you a secret about relief factor that the father, son, owners, Pete and Seth Talbot have never made a big deal about, but I think it is a big deal. I really do.
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Starting point is 00:11:48 so I was fine. My case got extended five times over the course of a year. And then after the five continuances, which were requested by the government, then my sentencing got delayed five times. So this misdemeanor case ended up getting pushed out more than a year long. And so the relevance of that is, first of all, it became much more expensive than it needed to be and it became much more torturous than it needed to be. But I went to jail in January of 2021 for days in 24-hour lockdown. I then spent a year on pretrial supervision, which by the way people may not understand is actually stricter than being on probation. I mean, you can't, you can't travel without permission. You have to check in on a weekly basis with an officer. You, you have to call. It's, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So after a year of that, I finally was sentenced. And my sentencing was only a few weeks ago. So I'm just now, after all of that, beginning my punishment for this. And my punishment is three months of home confinement with an ankle monitor. So I'm not allowed to leave my apartment. for three months and I have an ankle bracelet on. Three years of probation, 60 hours of community service, the maximum fine of $5,000 and $500 restitution to be paid back to the Capitol,
Starting point is 00:13:17 although it was acknowledged that I did not commit any destruction or theft or violence toward the Capitol, but I'm ordered to pay restitution. And I also want to point out to you, Eric, that the government And when the government wanted four months of house arrest, but the judge gave me three. And the judge, the government also wanted as a condition of my probation, three years probation, mind you. The government wanted the right to surveil my phone, my computer, my email, my social media, and my bank accounts as a condition of my probation for three years.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But the judge did not grant them that. And it also, I think, is worth pointing out. out that when the prosecution came to us about a week before sentencing and said, this is the sentencing recommendation. It was a 30-page document. My attorneys who have decades of federal trial experience, criminal trial experience, said that they have never seen a 30-page sentencing recommendation in their life. One of my attorneys said, I have handled federal cases about drug cartels, networks of drug criminals. And he said, I have never seen a 30-page. sentencing recommendation on a drug cartel, let alone a misdemeanor charge, a nonviolent misdemeanor
Starting point is 00:14:37 charge. But in this sentencing recommendation, when they gave this to us and told us they were asking for four months of house arrest and all of these other things, they actually told us, they were like, consider yourself lucky because our superiors in the government, this is the prosecutor saying this, were insisting that you get prison time. They wanted you in prison. But they said, we actually advocated for you and said that we felt that four months of home confinement was sufficient with three years of supervision, of surveillance of your emails, your phone, your whatever. And ultimately, I ended up getting three months of house arrest and the probation
Starting point is 00:15:19 without the surveillance. But they wanted prison. They wanted me in prison. I'm still myself unable to process what I'm hearing. It's so disturbing, Brandon, to think that in the United States of America, this is happening. And there are people in jail now for having done what? I don't know, nothing, evidently, or close to nothing. We have had people.
Starting point is 00:15:49 We've had riots across this nation, people burning, looting, far worse than anything that I saw. on January 6th. This is, it's the classic two-tier justice system. It's simply astonishing to me that in the United States, we could have that happening right now. There are forces that so despised Donald Trump and anyone who supported him that have been unleashed. And they are obviously still in power,
Starting point is 00:16:23 persecuting folks like you, to a much lesser extent, folks like me. I mean, this program was wiped off of YouTube. I cannot begin to imagine why. But this is going on everywhere, these kinds of things. What happened to you, of course, is infinitely worse than that. So I'm not sure where to go from here because I want to hear about you. You said that there's a civil lawsuit. This is mind-blowing, and it's madness. It's insanity. So is it worth getting into that right now? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yes. I really want to talk about this because in my opinion, this is to me, I know that we on the right, are not supposed to refer to ourselves as victims or ever, because that's kind of like, that's our thing, right? That we're against victim-minded people. We're against that, we're against that type of thing. Yeah. But I don't really know any other word to use in a situation like this other than, and sorry,
Starting point is 00:17:26 if it makes some people bristle, but in many ways I feel like I've been twice victimized in this process. The reason you're saying victim is because this is actual victimization. You are a genuine victim. A victim mindset is bad because people who are in a victim mindset are themselves actually not victims. You are an actual victim. You have been singled out and you have been persecuted. There's no way around it. That's why when you cheapen terms like victim by using them when they're not appropriate, you know, that that's the problem is that you cheap an actual victimization of human beings. People have been targeted and persecuted. You have been. You are being. Yeah. Well, that's an excellent point. And you're right. Thank you. I appreciate the distinction.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I was saying that I feel in many ways like a twice victim, maybe even more than twice, Because I honestly believed that once I got through this and kind of got to the other side, that all of my allies in conservative media would be standing there waiting to say, let's get you back out there, let's tell your story. Or forget about the media. Actually, let's don't. But in addition to the media, I figured that my fellow activists and influencers and people in this movement who know, who know my heart, who know my character, who know the work that I've done,
Starting point is 00:19:01 would be waiting on the other side to say, we stand beside you and you're not alone and you're not. But that really hasn't been the experience at all. I feel very much alone and I feel very much betrayed. I want to get into that because when I heard, I had wanted to reach you for months. And again, this is not a conservative radio program. or conservative TV program, although I don't shrink from it. And oftentimes we do talk
Starting point is 00:19:30 politics. So maybe some people think that I'm a conservative talk show host. I'm a radio host. We talk to all kinds of people about a lot of things. But when you talk about conservative media, it is astonishing to me that people wouldn't have been clamoring to get you on. And I want to talk about that. I mean, you said that Mark Levine had you on. and people can go to his website and there's more stuff there. But other than Mark Levin, who would you have expected to reach out who hasn't reached out? Well, I'd say primarily Tucker, of course. It's kind of shocking to me because he's one of the few people who's actually talking about January 6th
Starting point is 00:20:22 and trying to find the stories that are not. not being told and trying to find, you know, the other angles to the story besides the left wing narrative about that day. And here you've got someone like myself who I've appeared on his show numerous times. I've appeared on the Fox News Network more than 75 times in the last couple of years. Again, I'm a pretty uncontroversial figure in that world. I mean, the Fox News audience loves me and has loved me. It's not. not risky. There's no risk. And so I think I don't understand why they're, they're unwilling to, to just let me tell my story. And as I've said all along, you know, I'm like, I'm not asking for an
Starting point is 00:21:11 endorsement. I'm not asking for Tucker. I'm not asking for anybody to have me on and say, you did nothing wrong. Your actions were perfect. But this is news. I mean, what has happened to me is news. Yeah. This is a story. And so I don't understand why, you know, someone like Tucker or Fox or whatever, they're willing to talk about January 6th and they're willing to talk about who is Ray Epps and what, how is it? Tucker, we know Tucker is a good guy and I suspect that he will have you want and I'll be happy to contact him. The whole story is so astonishing and so difficult. And it's a, but it's a blessing that you're willing to walk us through it. So when we back. We'll continue our conversation with Brandon Strock. Folks, I hope you'll help Brandon Strock financially.
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Starting point is 00:23:36 because people in America need to understand what's happening. There are voices in the conservative media, even like Ben Shapiro, who have said really negative things about the January 6th folks, that something, you know, throw the book at them or something. And I try myself to process how they are perceiving things or what world do they live in and who do they think was there on January 6th? I don't mean Ben Shapiro specifically. I mean just generally speaking that there are many we know that there are many conservatives that I don't know if it's the Pence wing or the I don't know what wing they think they are, the National Review wing. They don't seem to think the way you do or I do. But anyway, keep telling us your story because it's good for us to try to
Starting point is 00:24:31 process this together. Right. Well, you know, the example that you use with Ben Shapiro and other people, I mean, this is what happens when the right wing media or conservative media doesn't do their job. This is what happens. So to me, I think Ben Shapiro is a good guy. I like Ben Shapiro. But I think based off of comments like that, it's obvious to me. that he's buying into the left-wing narrative about January 6th and not accepting any nuance, which is my whole point here. If you smashed windows or if you harmed somebody or if you did damage, I think you deserve to be prosecuted accordingly for that. But I don't think if you're somebody who was standing outside of the building and didn't do anything violent or destructive and you got
Starting point is 00:25:16 charged with nonviolent misdemeanor disorderly conduct as I did, you deserve to. You deserve to be labeled a terrorist and an insurrectionist. And that's what's happening right now. It doesn't matter if you got arrested for jaywalking on January 6th. You're an insurrectionist. You're a terrorist. There's no nuance. No people are kind of separating out who did this and who did that. It's just because the left wing media is saying, oh, 750 people have been charged for the insurrection. Well, my contribution to the insurrection was nonviolent disorderly conduct. So how does that square? Even saying disorderly conduct, I mean, you've been forced effectively to accept this preposterous statement that you are guilty of disorderly conduct. It doesn't strike me as a common sense individual that you're guilty of anything.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I mean, you've been forced to accept that. But it really doesn't make sense to me that even those who are guilty of disorderly conduct. People do terrible things every day. But the idea that they would be persecuted like this for the kinds of things we're talking about, it's against everything we believe in in this country. This is political persecution. And I guess my question to you, if you have any thoughts, is what we can do about it? I mean, who are these forces? How dare the FBI treat you like this?
Starting point is 00:26:46 How dare they treat you like this? Roger Stone, another friend, was. was treated extremely grievously, stunning level of intimidation, terrorizing tactics. Who is behind this? I mean, that's really the question is, who is behind this? And how did they get the power they have? Well, I couldn't begin to answer what, where the root cause of the whole thing is. But I can tell you, we're never going to find out if we continue to ignore stories like mine
Starting point is 00:27:19 or allow the left to completely run with these narratives and then never counteract them by allowing people to tell their stories. You know, this we end up as conservatives constantly being in a position. I don't know if you identify as conservatives, but I as a conservative always feel like we're in a position where we're reacting. We're constantly reacting to everything that they do. And then we never get to the bottom of anything because we're spending so much time kind of ducking and weaving and dodging bullets.
Starting point is 00:27:46 That's right. And never asking questions. And even I'm sorry to say, but for everyone out there who's saying, oh, just wait until we take the house and wait until we get a Republican back in office, I'm not so sure. I really don't have any confidence whatsoever that if we take the House and the Senate and the White House in 2024, that anyone will ever investigate what actually happened and who act, where were the security breaches, where did things go wrong? Who was overcharged with things that they never should have been charged with? I know President Trump has made comments about pardoning people. That would be wonderful. I'm not going to sit around holding my breath.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You know, there's a lot of talk and very little action on our side of the aisle. The most recent, I mean, a few weeks ago, Ted Cruz, you know, got in trouble for saying that what happened on January 6th. I don't remember exactly his term. You probably did. but that it was something terrorist. And I thought to myself, this is Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz, theoretically, one of the better guys, right? One of the good guys, buying into this narrative.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And that's why I want to challenge people, if you buy into this narrative one tiny bit, one millimeter, you're guilty. We can't do that. We can't pretend like, yes, yes, horrible things happened. Show me the horrible things that happened. We stand against horrible things. vandalism, murder.
Starting point is 00:29:14 We don't really have to talk about it. We all know where we stand on those things. So I'm with you on that. We're going to go to a break here. Albin, is this the 630? Yes, yep, yes. We're going to go to a break here, folks. I want to remind you, our website is ericmetaxis.com.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Sign up for the newsletter. And please go to brandon strok.com. It's S-T-R-A-K-A. St-R-A-S-T-R-A-Brandonstrock.com and help Brandon out. This is not just Brandon's story. It's our story. We're all part of this. We're all in on this,
Starting point is 00:29:54 and we all need to help each other. We'll be right back. Hey, folks, if you listen to this program, of course, you've heard me talk at infinitum about my pillow and my friend Mike Lindell. Well, Mike has just announced that you will receive one of his books. And the book is next level insane. It is called What Are the Odds from Crack Addict to CEO? It's his story.
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Starting point is 00:31:35 It's sheer madness. Who do you think is behind this? Well, that's one thing, again, I would love to get to the bottom of and that I hope that some investigative journalists or heavy hitters in the conservative media start asking those questions. I really hope that that happens because what has happened is a law firm in D.C., very well-funded, very big operation, something that, you know, like David versus Goliath for me. They have put together this lawsuit in which I call them a social justice warrior law firm because if you go to their website, what you'll see is that they're primarily focused on suing people for civil rights violations, which is a good thing in theory, except that
Starting point is 00:32:24 this is obviously a very progressive and leftist mindset. Because if you look, what they're saying on their website is that they're going after white supremacists. They're going after domestic terrorists. And these are all buzzwords for Republicans and Trump supporters. So this is a, in my opinion, a Democrat Party funded nonprofit law firm, which is abusing the law to engage in law fair to hurt people who are of an opposite political ideology as themselves. And so in the month of September, they served me in this lawsuit. And I can't prove this, but what I believe happened is that they went out. They found seven Capitol police officers who happened to be black and brown people said, we'll cover all the expenses,
Starting point is 00:33:12 will represent you, you don't have to do a thing, but basically be a plaintiff in this lawsuit in which we are going to allege that dozens of people engaged in a racially biased hate crime attack on black and brown police officers on January 6th. We're going to call them white supremacists and racist and we're going to claim that they attacked you and you just have to go along for the ride. That's what I believe happened. And so in this lawsuit against me, I'm not making this up. They are claiming that I violently breached barricades to enter the capital grounds and proceeded to physically attack police officers, including the plaintiffs. Eric, I have never met these people.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I did not see them on January 6th. They did not see me on January 6th. They were working as far as I know on the opposite side of the building than I was on. I didn't know you didn't do this. So I guess my question really is why are they putting you through this? What is the end game on their side? Two reasons. They're forcing you.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Look, I've been sued. I can't talk about it, but, you know, I know what I've done and haven't done. The fact is that there are people who use, our friend Mike Lindell first used the term lawfare. I heard it from him first. They're basically using money to manipulate the legal system to punish people they don't like. That's what it is. And it's technically legal to do this.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And that's what they're doing to you. Yes. Well, and I couldn't believe it. And I had to hire civil lawyers in addition to my criminal lawyers. And I couldn't believe it when my civil lawyer, I told them, I said, look, I have a video. Like every moment that I was on the capital, that I was at the capital, I recorded. So I said, can't we just show the judge that I walked onto the grounds and there were no barricades? I wasn't filing.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I didn't touch anybody. I didn't assault anyone. I can prove that. And my lawyer essentially told me that's not how civil law works. the judge has to assume that everything that they're saying is true. And then we have to come up with reasons to dismiss the case based off of the assumption that their narrative is true. It's maddening. So I have now spent tens of thousands of dollars on attorneys.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And we haven't even gotten to the hearing to dismiss the case yet. And God forbid if this judge, and I'm not hopeful, if this judge says he's not going to dismiss the case and that we're going to move forward, I'm going to have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars going to trial to prove that I didn't physically assault these people who I've never met in my entire life. And that is what this is for. Number one, it's to bankrupt me and to cause me emotional and psychological distress. And two, it's to try to, they're also suing Donald Trump. So they're suing Donald Trump and Roger Stone and a number of other people, including myself.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And they're basically claiming, in addition to the physical assault lie, They're claiming conspiracy. So what they want, I think, is the right to be able to subpoena our phone records and our conversations to try to see if I was talking to Donald Trump or if I was talking to Roger Stone or whatever and try to humiliate us. I think in the press by releasing our text messages and releasing our emails. Now, as it turns out, I didn't have any conversations with Donald Trump or Roger Stone or anyone else because I didn't know January 6th was going to happen. Just like most people, I believe, in my opinion, it was a spontaneous. riot that broke out among a very small group of people out of hundreds of thousands that were there to peacefully protest. Forgive me for having common sense, but that's what I believe January 6th was.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Something that happened that was sparked. It was terrible. It shouldn't have happened. It was horrible. But there was no deep, dark plot that's ever going to be unearthed in which people were communicating with each other about how to overthrow the government. I actually wonder whether there was a deep, dark plot on the other side to instigate this. That's, that would be my best guess at this point. There's a film called Capital Punishment, which we interviewed the director on this program. And if you watch that film, you get the distinct idea that there are dark forces on the other side. Listen, if the FBI can send eight people to your home in Nebraska to do to you what they did to you, it's astonishing. The power and the money that is being used to persecute Americans
Starting point is 00:37:53 who love freedom, it's absolutely astonishing. But that sounds to me like what is behind, at least part of this, that there were people involved in this thing who were, they were doing something. They were planning something. But I don't know if we'll ever get to the bottom of it. You're right. Well, Eric, let me say to, you know, if I had it my way, this civil case will be dismissed so that I can begin the process of moving on with my life, which is what I want more than anything in the world. Here we are more than a year after January 6th, and this is still going on. But I will say to the audience out there listening and to the public,
Starting point is 00:38:32 if the judge does not make the decision to dismiss at least my portion of this case, then I really hope that the American public will get behind me because I actually will be forced into a position where I have to defend myself. And if I have to defend myself, the upshot of that is we, my attorneys and I have the power then at that point to depose people. We get to depose maybe members of Congress. Okay, hang on. Let's, let's, we're going to go to break.
Starting point is 00:38:58 We'll be right back. And we will let our friend Brandon Strachk continue these thoughts. Hey there, folks. Welcome back. We've been talking to our friend Brandon Strach. And remember, it's spelled S-T-R-A-K-A. It looks like Straca. S-T-R-A-K.
Starting point is 00:39:32 We still have a bit more with him coming up. In our next segment, by the way, we're going to do every week, hour two, Thursday, we do Ask Mataxis. Yes. If your radio station only plays hour one of the Eric Metaxas show, first of all, of course, we spit on them, metaphorically. And we say, shame on you. You should write letters to them or you should let them know you want both hours. of the program. P.S., what are you crazy? And in the meantime, you can go to metaxus talk.com, and you can listen to this program. I think you can listen to this program on Spotify,
Starting point is 00:40:12 everywhere, everywhere. So you can get both hours of the Eric Metaxus show. But I hate the idea that there are some radio stations around the program. I don't know what they're doing, but they only play hour one. Even in New York, I'm very sorry to say, they only play hour one. It's from 11 p.m. to midnight. And hour two, which is coming up any second, you're not going to hear Ask Mataxis. And oh boy, have we got some whoppers for you and Ask Mattaxis? So in hour two today, right after this, we've got Ask Mataxis. That's a 10 minute segment. Then we're going to talk to Brandon Strach for two more segments to finish up that story. And I want to say, I want to stress to you, we need you to share his story.
Starting point is 00:40:59 So we posted it on social media all over my social media, wherever you follow me, Gab, Parlor, Getter, Twitter, Facebook. Or even easier, you can just sign up for our newsletter. And when you get the newsletter, it'll be right there. You can click on the link. It's a Rumble video and you can share it. I hope you will share it, folks, because this is the most chilling, horrific nightmare in our modern lives. in the United States of America that these things are happening. And by the way, he's far from the only one, but he's a friend and he gave us the opportunity to tell his story. So we need you to do
Starting point is 00:41:38 that, to share his story. I'll tell you about 30 years ago, I read a bunch of Solzhenitsyn book, you know, Cancer Ward, First Circle. And I'll tell you, what's happening in this country mirrors what's going on. It's very hard to believe we could even say something like that. But the fact is, if you're familiar with that literature, if you're familiar with George Orwell, you begin to see how that can happen. And this is how it is happening. So please share that. We also want to tell you, okay, so in hour two, we've got plenty more with Brandon. We're going to hear from our friends, Seth and Pete Talbot toward the end of the hour. Tomorrow, we're going to be talking to a new friend, Lucinda. She is a family farmer in Missouri, as she pronounces it. And she heads up something called Moink,
Starting point is 00:42:31 which is Moop plus Oink. They're a sponsor on this program. Her story, I'm telling you, it's not political. It's not faith-oriented. It's just all kinds of amazing stuff about family farms and farming. If you're interested, go to Moink box. Moink. It's M-O-I-N-K. Moink, like Mooplo-O-O-N-K, Moink, Moinkbox.com slash Eric. And you'll see, we got it here.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It's fantastic stuff. But beyond that, you'll get an education. And she was big on Shark Tank. So you might have seen her on Shark Tank. Oh, that's right. You know what? We should post that video. I'll post that video.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Maybe next week we'll post that video. I also want to say our give send go page is back up. If you want to help us directly, we can use the help. We're launching a late night TV show. Folks, you're not going to believe what is happening. We're really not able to share the details. It's going to blow your mind. It's a dream come true many, many, many years, decades in the making, frankly.
Starting point is 00:43:37 So if you go to give, send go, you can help us to do that. And also, we're going to be having new Socrates in the city events coming up. The first one, I believe, is April 1st. We're at a time when we come back, ask metaxus.

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